Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Wednesday, January 4, 2017 at 1:01:49 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote: > I'd expect to see the .desktop files. > Here's a sample - save it as xfce4-terminal.desktop: Thanks for your efforts to assist with this. I copied the text you posted and saved it as a .desktop text file as you suggested, and then moved it into the /usr/share/applications folder of dom0, and then rebooted. It doesn't seem to have had any effect, though it's hard to tell since the xfce "start menu" doesn't appear to even have a "system tools" menu entry to begin with, unlike the kde plasma one. There is a "System" menu at the very top, but that contains a whole gigantic mess of shortcuts from every VM I have, all jumbled together in one big chaotic list. However, clumped together midway through that menu are the few dom0 shortcuts I still have (apper, DispVM Browser etc) and there doesn't seem to be any new item referencing the xfce4 terminal. Is there anything else I can try at this point? I've noticed that I keep getting notified that Qubes Dom0 updates are available, but whenever I run sudo qubes-dom0-update it reports no packages to download, nothing to update. Any other ideas or suggestions would be more than welcome. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/0aa64fbc-ea7b-458d-8b32-1de0147f1475%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 07:38:20PM -0800, Otto Kratik wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 8:55:58 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 04:12:28PM -0800, Otto Kratik wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:02:09 PM UTC-5, Marek > > > Marczykowski-Górecki > > > > > > > > Try running `xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate`. > > > > > > Ran it as su from dom0 terminal. Command was accepted, but no noticeable > > > effect or change, or output. > > > > > > > Have you checked the menu files? > > > > For xfce, in /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu you should have a > > section with System that references > > qubes-System-Tools.directory > > There should be an section containing > > and Excludes for X-Qubes_VM and X-Xfce-Toplevel > > > > The actual desktop files should be in /usr/share/applications: check > > that they are there. > > Confirm the Categories of a sample desktop file. > > > > I can't imagine that these have been deleted - if they have then you don't > > need to reinstall, just replace the missing files. > > > > let us know what you find (or not, as the case may be). > > > Here are the contents of the xfce-applications.menu file: > > ** >"http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd;> > > > Xfce > > > > > > > > X-Xfce-Toplevel > > > exo-file-manager.desktop > exo-mail-reader.desktop > exo-web-browser.desktop > > > > /usr/local/share/applications > > > xfce4-run.desktop > exo-terminal-emulator.desktop > > System > > > > xfce4-about.desktop > xfce4-session-logout.desktop > > > > System > qubes-System-Tools.directory > > > > > X-Xfce-Toplevel > X-Qubes-VM > > > > xfce-settings-manager.desktop > > > > > > > > > > *** > > In /usr/share/applications I see: > > kde (folfer) > kde4 (folder) > screensavers (folder) > gnome-mimeapps.list > kde-mimeapps.list > mimeapps.list > mineinfo.cache > xfce-mimeapps.list > > > Does that reveal anything? What should I be looking for within this location > further? > > Thanks... > I'd expect to see the .desktop files. Here's a sample - save it as xfce4-terminal.desktop: [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=Xfce Terminal Name[ar]=طرفية إكسفس Name[bg]=Xfce Терминал Name[cs]=Terminál Xfce Name[da]=Xfce Terminal Name[de]=Xfce Terminal Name[el]=Τερμαρικό XFCE Name[en_AU]=Xfce Terminal Name[en_GB]=Xfce Terminal Name[es]=Terminal de Xfce Name[eu]=Xfce terminala Name[fi]=Xfce-pääte Name[fr]=Terminal Xfce Name[he]=מסוף Xfce Name[hr]=Xfce terminal Name[hu]=Xfce terminál Name[id]=Terminal Xfce Name[it]=Terminale di Xfce Name[ja]=Xfce Terminal Name[kk]=Xfce Terminal Name[ko]=Xfce 터미널 Name[nl]=Xfce terminal Name[oc]=Terminal Xfce Name[pl]=Terminal Xfce Name[pt]=Terminal Xfce Name[pt_BR]=Xfce terminal Name[ro]=Terminal Xfce Name[ru]=Терминал Xfce Name[sr]=ИксФЦЕ терминал Name[th]=เทอร์มินัลของ Xfce Name[tr]=Xfce Terminal Name[ug]=Xfce تېرمىنالى Name[uk]=Термінал XFCE Name[zh_CN]=Xfce 终端 Name[zh_TW]=Xfce 終端機 Comment=Terminal Emulator Comment[ar]=محاكي طرفية Comment[ast]=Emulador de terminal Comment[be]=Эмулятар тэрмінала Comment[bg]=Терминален Емулатор Comment[ca]=Emulador de terminal Comment[cs]=Emulátor terminálu Comment[da]=Terminal Emulator Comment[de]=Terminal-Programm Comment[el]=Προσομοίωση τερματικού Comment[en_AU]=Terminal Emulator Comment[en_GB]=Terminal Emulator Comment[eo]=Terminala Simulilo Comment[es]=Emulador de terminal Comment[et]=Terminaliemulaator Comment[eu]=Terminal emuladorea Comment[fi]=Pääte-emulaattori Comment[fr]=Émulateur de terminal Comment[gl]=Emulador de terminal Comment[he]=מדמה מסוף Comment[hr]=Emulator terminala Comment[hu]=Terminálemulátor Comment[id]=Emulator Terminal Comment[it]=Emulatore di Terminale Comment[ja]=ターミナルエミュレーター Comment[kk]=Терминал эмуляторы Comment[ko]=터미널 에뮬레이터 Comment[lt]=Terminalo emuliatorius Comment[lv]=Termināļa emulators Comment[nb]=Teminalemulator Comment[nl]=Terminalvenster Comment[oc]=Emulator de terminal Comment[pa]=ਟਰਮੀਨਲ ਈਮੂਲੇਟਰ Comment[pl]=Emuluje działanie terminala X Comment[pt]=Emulador de terminal Comment[pt_BR]=Emulador de terminal Comment[ro]=Emulator de terminal Comment[ru]=Эмулятор терминала Comment[sk]=Terminál Emulátor Comment[sq]=Emulues Terminali Comment[sr]=Емулатор терминала Comment[sv]=Terminalemulator Comment[te]=టెర్మినల్ ఎమ్యులేటర్ Comment[th]=โปรแกรมจำลองเทอร์มินัล Comment[tr]=Uçbirim Öykünücüsü Comment[ug]=تېرمىنال Emulator Comment[uk]=Емулятор терміналу Comment[ur]=ٹرمنل ایمولیٹر Comment[ur_PK]=ٹرمنل ایمولیٹر Comment[vi]=Trình giả lập Terminal Comment[zh_CN]=终端模拟器 Comment[zh_TW]=終端機程式 GenericName=Terminal Emulator GenericName[ar]=محاكي طرفية GenericName[ast]=Emulador de terminal
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 8:55:58 PM UTC-5, Unman wrote: > On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 04:12:28PM -0800, Otto Kratik wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:02:09 PM UTC-5, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > > > > > > > Try running `xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate`. > > > > Ran it as su from dom0 terminal. Command was accepted, but no noticeable > > effect or change, or output. > > > > Have you checked the menu files? > > For xfce, in /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu you should have a > section with System that references > qubes-System-Tools.directory > There should be an section containing > and Excludes for X-Qubes_VM and X-Xfce-Toplevel > > The actual desktop files should be in /usr/share/applications: check > that they are there. > Confirm the Categories of a sample desktop file. > > I can't imagine that these have been deleted - if they have then you don't > need to reinstall, just replace the missing files. > > let us know what you find (or not, as the case may be). Here are the contents of the xfce-applications.menu file: ** http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu-spec/1.0/menu.dtd;> Xfce X-Xfce-Toplevel exo-file-manager.desktop exo-mail-reader.desktop exo-web-browser.desktop /usr/local/share/applications xfce4-run.desktop exo-terminal-emulator.desktop System xfce4-about.desktop xfce4-session-logout.desktop System qubes-System-Tools.directory X-Xfce-Toplevel X-Qubes-VM xfce-settings-manager.desktop *** In /usr/share/applications I see: kde (folfer) kde4 (folder) screensavers (folder) gnome-mimeapps.list kde-mimeapps.list mimeapps.list mineinfo.cache xfce-mimeapps.list Does that reveal anything? What should I be looking for within this location further? Thanks... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4caa2ffd-447d-491d-afe6-f20adf77114e%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 04:12:28PM -0800, Otto Kratik wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:02:09 PM UTC-5, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > > > Try running `xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate`. > > Ran it as su from dom0 terminal. Command was accepted, but no noticeable > effect or change, or output. > Have you checked the menu files? For xfce, in /etc/xdg/menus/xfce-applications.menu you should have a section with System that references qubes-System-Tools.directory There should be an section containing and Excludes for X-Qubes_VM and X-Xfce-Toplevel The actual desktop files should be in /usr/share/applications: check that they are there. Confirm the Categories of a sample desktop file. I can't imagine that these have been deleted - if they have then you don't need to reinstall, just replace the missing files. let us know what you find (or not, as the case may be). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170104015557.GA28071%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:02:09 PM UTC-5, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki > > Try running `xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate`. Ran it as su from dom0 terminal. Command was accepted, but no noticeable effect or change, or output. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d9ecc53c-b93d-4dfb-ba42-b5146d6ef987%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, Jan 02, 2017 at 08:35:14PM -0800, Otto Kratik wrote: > I am using Qubes R3.2. Suddenly almost all of the KDE shortcuts usually found > under applications-> system tools have completely vanished. I have no > konsole, file manager, system settings etc. Only four remain: > > DispVM: Terminal > DispVM: Web Browser > Screen Capture Program > Software Management > > Everything else is gone. They were there one minute, and then gone the next. > I have performed Dom0 updates and rebooted afterward to see if it fixed the > issue, without success. > > What is the recommended course of action? Try running `xdg-desktop-menu forceupdate`. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJYbC1rAAoJENuP0xzK19csMXkIAIs1PHY7V62dpSzxl2JfqWTC swLK8RSqJmj6uqWzLJoSRkTkErS4gEClZmcas49GIaPnxKnusWjFOpGSPXzH7bIC zBKV8JLGOgG5819CS116HTJW52LLw6rx1ps13NvQUmf6xikgVy5ABqG57q8SfKl9 1U0dDXi+GEyeghvpTcm5MYmWnjAhKfuU/TxPbuWy1SUZBF7VeFGwhXFEjyRs7RaD O/IvXWTCzQI5GNq7vE5+H3Oc3PhgOv1bUIqY7V/MHPGrH5oRmkBPKuo9gCSEyZpW a5lwNtDrTpVHemRoO3jatZ70CZJadTHnw9Tz4Z5dYUYnN8kyPBxddS4T1lA1lmc= =6x9c -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20170103230203.GD5268%40mail-itl. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 4:32:11 PM UTC-5, Andrew David Wong wrote: > I'm afraid I don't have any special insight into this problem. (I > vaguely recall that it happened to me once on 3.1, then I think I > ignored the problem and it eventually reverted itself somehow.) > > However, it occurs to me that what you're asking about is primarily a > KDE issue, and the information you seek should, in principle, be > available from a KDE source (docs, devs) or even Fedora or another > distro that uses KDE. To clarify: The *cause* may be Qubes-related (I > have no idea), but the default file/list for KDE System Tools should > probably be the same as in non-Qubes KDE installations. At least, it's > worth checking. The file may possibly be in the same place, but of course in the case of Qubes it is a customized one containing entries like "Qubes VM Manager" etc, so I would need that specific one. I don't know the default location. Also as noted however, it makes no difference whether I use Xfce or KDE. In either case I have no menu item available anywhere for "Qubes VM Manager" which I normally would, so it is a pan-desktop-environment issue, likely related to Qubes itself rather than one of the DE's. So far I have not found any solution to this, and am looking at a complete system re-install in order to fix one single interface issue. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/c49af7bb-2d47-4783-85c5-a9d1b72205ca%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2017-01-03 09:55, Otto Kratik wrote: > On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:54:24 AM UTC-5, Fred wrote: > >> I can't help but I had this happen once using Xfce as the >> desktop. All my 'start menu' disappeared bar a few. > > It happened to me at least once before under R3.1 as well, also > randomly with no obvious or apparent cause. The System Tools menu > items stayed gone for several weeks, then one day after new Dom0 > updates they magically re-appeared again, with no explanation. > > I can also confirm that at the login screen if I choose xfce as > the desktop environment, the missing shortcut issue still persists, > so it isn't an intrinsic KDE thing indeed, as surmised. > > On a related note, I'm not even sure whether entries like "DispVM: > Web Browser" are meant to appear under System Tools in R3.2, or if > that is a menu glitch as well. Previously DispVM had its own > top-level menu entry like any other AppVM, under which different > app shortcuts appeared, so I don't know if something else has gone > wrong. > > Is there a text file somewhere in Dom0, from which the System > Tools menu obtains its default list of items? And if so, is it > possible for someone with a functioning menu to "dump" the contents > of that file here in this thread, so that I can copy and paste them > into my presumably broken source file here, if such a thing is > even possible? > > >> I re-installed. Possibly a bug then in this case? > > I would really, really, really like to avoid having to re-install > my entire operating system just to fix some missing menu entries, > especially since it could presumably happen again at any given > time thereafter. No other template or app vm's are affected, only > Dom0. Surely there must be some alternative way to fix this issue, > without resorting to ssuch drastic measures. Anyone? > I'm afraid I don't have any special insight into this problem. (I vaguely recall that it happened to me once on 3.1, then I think I ignored the problem and it eventually reverted itself somehow.) However, it occurs to me that what you're asking about is primarily a KDE issue, and the information you seek should, in principle, be available from a KDE source (docs, devs) or even Fedora or another distro that uses KDE. To clarify: The *cause* may be Qubes-related (I have no idea), but the default file/list for KDE System Tools should probably be the same as in non-Qubes KDE installations. At least, it's worth checking. - -- Andrew David Wong (Axon) Community Manager, Qubes OS https://www.qubes-os.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYbBhQAAoJENtN07w5UDAweV4P/j8BRWWWX6JA8mA7G01dNfiQ LInayfOESqSI3Y+sU405Ci3hJVVNyzi2SB+IRbrtSvTXKYnPY1kIZ5YrtC88RZvf yxhYqzvgTCNiZxr4TTxxQGiFF0uC/b04xIS3+1WFgnb86D/DATMPPdHaSOA2xtCQ OzYOondRueTvuq1yZLZxBwYAXM7LUqAL5gHqammFAyWve7r4L/RFta4JKp/FFwV4 YP6XPuu0KvgxgYUxF1+cM2+D2pvi/4CEO321Zwh2DtOFx2kzNBF/6XOL78akWtt0 D6aTcKfhIENs8ho2oB1MfxeBPQeQFKhC5Xcf/1V4oYrHmUdw6D8L2ecqCSyPkmXY aHRwZm6ASktYvsNgdKd8aGeaerLZv40XJ6bOwHMXOKiAAmbDQvEDkw2Ni0MQCQxv VBIoBAjfjmn8ms6/kULWUdOpWmun+Oz2Qtm6BYAWppos2hjBtoZI23B9MWOMRQVE HzFUWbtU2aynkHh1H5i17N/Ow469MwGJxGzKPj01Yuzz81tRJi5h7YvVcWUts354 k1SIjLUXHPeVVnurDv/Iux6ebqXDxris1AicR1pEfzMtJKGnckfq6/QvL+2wZeMd KBgiF3I3aVFqr7zgr293YGrJS/lqydVPtYylMemPOd/4uDwHeWrpTCd929TaRC0T zx+c5ZySRav/6gd0DIH2 =aXp6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d498e413-0bac-a9b0-6c47-b83041adf85b%40qubes-os.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On Tuesday, January 3, 2017 at 6:54:24 AM UTC-5, Fred wrote: > I can't help but I had this happen once using Xfce as the desktop. All > my 'start menu' disappeared bar a few. It happened to me at least once before under R3.1 as well, also randomly with no obvious or apparent cause. The System Tools menu items stayed gone for several weeks, then one day after new Dom0 updates they magically re-appeared again, with no explanation. I can also confirm that at the login screen if I choose xfce as the desktop environment, the missing shortcut issue still persists, so it isn't an intrinsic KDE thing indeed, as surmised. On a related note, I'm not even sure whether entries like "DispVM: Web Browser" are meant to appear under System Tools in R3.2, or if that is a menu glitch as well. Previously DispVM had its own top-level menu entry like any other AppVM, under which different app shortcuts appeared, so I don't know if something else has gone wrong. Is there a text file somewhere in Dom0, from which the System Tools menu obtains its default list of items? And if so, is it possible for someone with a functioning menu to "dump" the contents of that file here in this thread, so that I can copy and paste them into my presumably broken source file here, if such a thing is even possible? > I re-installed. Possibly a bug then in this case? I would really, really, really like to avoid having to re-install my entire operating system just to fix some missing menu entries, especially since it could presumably happen again at any given time thereafter. No other template or app vm's are affected, only Dom0. Surely there must be some alternative way to fix this issue, without resorting to ssuch drastic measures. Anyone? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/4224ce3a-0cf9-4b11-abd9-824ee30f88b9%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [qubes-users] Dom0 (System tools) shortcuts suddenly disappeared
On 03/01/2017 04:35, Otto Kratik wrote: > I am using Qubes R3.2. Suddenly almost all of the KDE shortcuts > usually found under applications-> system tools have completely > vanished. I have no konsole, file manager, system settings etc. Only > four remain: I can't help but I had this happen once using Xfce as the desktop. All my 'start menu' disappeared bar a few. I re-installed. Possibly a bug then in this case? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to qubes-users@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/94a635b3-9e5f-9f12-97e8-b311c90e19d8%40gmsl.co.uk. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
