Re: [Radiant] How to add images to pages?
dror tirosh wrote: > Hi, > I don´t know if it works with 0.5.2 simply because I didn´t try it yet, > I > just upgraded the rails version but still working on an old radiant > version. > Keith - errors like you get for not attaching a file can be easily taken > care of in the code, the code you´re using is more of an example then > anything else. > I´ll check the patch on 0.5.2 and send updates if needed. > Dror I figured this, but have been banging my head trying to get rid of that particular error. Ruby and I are still getting to know one another. I have everything else working and little remains of your code example, but this one is vexing me. Pointers...? Keith -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Caching and optimizations
Frederico Oliveira wrote: > Still, giving users the chance to change the ResponseCache expiry > times in, say, a config file would be a safe bet. Actually, you can do that. Just drop the following in config/environment.rb: ResponseCache.defaults[:expire_time] = 2.days There are a couple of other defaults that you can use to configure caching. They are listed at the top of this file: http://dev.radiantcms.org/radiant/browser/trunk/radiant/app/models/response_cache.rb But I must ask: Is this actually an issue for you or are you anticipating that it might be? I ask because I believe that a lot of people make assumptions about caching based on what was once required on old hardware. I believe that modern hardware has changed the game and CPU time is no longer an issue for all but mega Web sites. Jason Hoffman did a study on Radiant and caching and posted some interesting screenshots about it on Flickr: http://flickr.com/photos/textdriveinc/179393665/in/photostream/ -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] How to add images to pages?
Hi, I installed the patch yesterday against 0.5.2 and it seemed to work just fine. Thanks, by the way, it looks like it should work great. -Tom On 8/18/06, dror tirosh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > I don´t know if it works with 0.5.2 simply because I didn´t try it yet, I > just upgraded the rails version but still working on an old radiant version. > Keith - errors like you get for not attaching a file can be easily taken > care of in the code, the code you´re using is more of an example then > anything else. > I´ll check the patch on 0.5.2 and send updates if needed. > Dror > > > > On 8/18/06, Keith Bingman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > bodhi wrote: > > > On 18/08/2006, at 12:20 AM, dror tirosh wrote: > > > > > >> Hi, > > >> I did the page_part_types patch before, which allows having parts of > > >> different types. > > >> I'm not sure there was a huge interest at it at the time, but I use it > > >> for a site that my writers are not very computer capable. > > > > > > I'm using it here :) > > > > > >> If you are interested and if that seems to answer your need you can > > >> write back to me, at the moment there is no patch for the 0.5 version. > > >> Dror > > > > > > Dror, does the patch on trac not work for 0.5.2? > > > > > > Bodhi > > > > I have been using this a lot as well. The patch fails with 0.5.2, but I > > think it is something minor to fix (I ran a bunch of patches at once, so > > I am not real clear). In any case I have it working. > > > > I do have one problem, when one chooses a attachment part_type, but does > > not upload an attachtement, I get an error. The if params[:file] should > > take care of this, but does not seem to. > > > > This idea makes Radiant into an even more flexible system. I just > > created a site with a gallery, using this. Each image is it's own page, > > a child of the gallery itself. This allows me to use the normal Radius > > tags and makes setup a snap. > > > > > > -- > > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > ___ > > Radiant mailing list > > Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org > > http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > > > > > ___ > Radiant mailing list > Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org > http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > > > ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] 3rd party host, need to update?
Erik, You shouldn't be dependent on Dreamhost (or any other host's) install of rails as Radiant includes it in the vendor directory by default. That's a Good Thing and you should follow that practice no matter where you host to be sure the environment doesn't change out from under you. I do host at Dreamhost and am quite happy with it. -Tom On 8/18/06, John W. Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Erik Mallinson wrote: > > I realize this is a stupid n00b question but I haven't the time this > > summer to dedicate towards learning Ruby, RoR, and Radiant that I was > > hoping for; I'm hoping kind soul will answer my question instead. > > > > If I use Dreamhost do I need to upgrade to 0.5.2 because of the RoR > > security updates? Doesn't Dreamhost install RoR? > > If your not sure if Dreamhost is running patched versions of the old > Rails versions, I would highly recommend that you upgrade to 0.5.2. > > > Bonus question: What's a good place to learn the ins and outs of SVN? > > I've installed Radiant via SVN and I'd like to upgrade in that way too. > > The best thing I've found is the Subversion book: > >http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ > > It's a bit verbose at times, but is a great reference manual. > > -- > John Long > http://wiseheartdesign.com > ___ > Radiant mailing list > Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org > http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Caching and optimizations
On 8/18/06, John W. Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't have plans to change the caching mechanism. Are you really > experiencing that much load that regenerating the page every five > minutes or so is a problem? I would find that really, really surprising. > If you were you could probably afford to buy new hardware or approach > the issue from a different angle. It ultimately depends on the site's usage patterns. In a packed environment (like shared hosting), it may become a big concern - if most page requests are non-cached, CPU usage for dispatchers goes way up when taking hits (possibly blowing up CPU-time limits). It is a fact that most people wont run into this sort of situation, but those I describe on the above paragraph might. Naturally most people with critical pages will choose to run them on dedicated setups (possibly even balanced environments), so it wont become a liability. Still, giving users the chance to change the ResponseCache expiry times in, say, a config file would be a safe bet. Naturally anyone can change the ResponseCache model and do it themselves (like I have, for pages who don't get too many updates - since there's a clever Clear Page Cache button to override the expiry time), but maybe that's one of the things where configuration comes in handy for people who'll be deploying a lot of pages. Fred ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Caching and optimizations
Frederico Oliveira wrote: > Now for the question: is there a plan to make the caching method used > by Radiant change, or should I patch the application myself? I can > predict many others will be in this situation soon as the application > is considered for real-world use by more and more developers and/or > companies. In critical situations for pages who get loads of requests > but little changes, we may have a problem. I don't have plans to change the caching mechanism. Are you really experiencing that much load that regenerating the page every five minutes or so is a problem? I would find that really, really surprising. If you were you could probably afford to buy new hardware or approach the issue from a different angle. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
[Radiant] Caching and optimizations
Hey guys, I looked around and it seems like this hasn't been asked before, but one of my major concerns with Radiant (which I've been using for quite some time now) is its caching mechanism. Here's my problem: I plan on deploying RadiantCMS on websites with content that doesn't change often - it gets updated maybe every week, but never twice in, say, a day. This being said, the 5-minute caching mechanism becomes useless as all but a few requests are dynamically generated and not taken from the cache. Now for the question: is there a plan to make the caching method used by Radiant change, or should I patch the application myself? I can predict many others will be in this situation soon as the application is considered for real-world use by more and more developers and/or companies. In critical situations for pages who get loads of requests but little changes, we may have a problem. Thoughts or solutions? Fred -- Frederico Oliveira Webreakstuff - A design, development and usability consulting company http://webreakstuff.com | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
MarsHall wrote: > RedCloth is focused on Textile formatting (with Markdown practically > as an aside). > > I suggest using BlueCloth for Markdown: >http://www.deveiate.org/projects/BlueCloth Radiant does use BlueCloth for Markdown. We were discussing some differences between the way RedCloth formats Textile and the way it works with the original Textile library. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
RedCloth is focused on Textile formatting (with Markdown practically as an aside). I suggest using BlueCloth for Markdown: http://www.deveiate.org/projects/BlueCloth In my experience, it works much better, including a fix for this line break problem: Two spaces at the end of a line create a , otherwise single carriage returns are ignored. Two carriage returns still delimit paragraphs. *Mars On Aug 17, 2006, at 07:11, Keith Bingman wrote: > As far as I can tell, Radiant seems to have the line break bug in > Redcloth. Is this true? Can it be fixed? > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > ___ > Radiant mailing list > Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org > http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant > ( <> .. <> ) ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Edit Links
John,+1 - Fragment caching would be great!AEMOn 8/17/06, John W. Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Daniel Lyons wrote:> Interesting. I wonder if it would be possible to implement a caching > system that could take this into account.>> Obviously, this isn't a deal breaker. Back to hacking...I'm considering adding fragment caching so that you could mark certainsections of the page for caching and let it generate the rest. --John Longhttp://wiseheartdesign.com___Radiant mailing listRadiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant-- Adrian Esteban Madrid ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] How to add images to pages?
Hi,I don´t know if it works with 0.5.2 simply because I didn´t try it yet, I just upgraded the rails version but still working on an old radiant version.Keith - errors like you get for not attaching a file can be easily taken care of in the code, the code you´re using is more of an example then anything else. I´ll check the patch on 0.5.2 and send updates if needed.DrorOn 8/18/06, Keith Bingman <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:bodhi wrote:> On 18/08/2006, at 12:20 AM, dror tirosh wrote: >>> Hi,>> I did the page_part_types patch before, which allows having parts of>> different types.>> I'm not sure there was a huge interest at it at the time, but I use it>> for a site that my writers are not very computer capable. >> I'm using it here :)>>> If you are interested and if that seems to answer your need you can>> write back to me, at the moment there is no patch for the 0.5 version.>> Dror >> Dror, does the patch on trac not work for 0.5.2?>> BodhiI have been using this a lot as well. The patch fails with 0.5.2, but Ithink it is something minor to fix (I ran a bunch of patches at once, so I am not real clear). In any case I have it working.I do have one problem, when one chooses a attachment part_type, but doesnot upload an attachtement, I get an error. The if params[:file] shouldtake care of this, but does not seem to. This idea makes Radiant into an even more flexible system. I justcreated a site with a gallery, using this. Each image is it's own page,a child of the gallery itself. This allows me to use the normal Radius tags and makes setup a snap.--Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/.___Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.orghttp://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
John W. Long wrote: > Keith Bingman wrote: >> I meant to include this, but forgot: >> >> http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html >> >> He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it >> disables paragraphs. Oh well... > > I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can > just use tags between lines. > > -- > John Long > http://wiseheartdesign.com I assumed this one be the response. Unfortunately, this is not a site for me... one of the pesky customers who doesn't want to learn...! I have a solution though. Thanks for looking into it. Keith Bingman -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
On Aug 18, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Paul Stadig wrote:I for one would rather not insert tags all over my mark up. If Iwas gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML. I like thesimplicity of Textile.I'm with Paul. _why might be wrong in this case.Maybe we could relax the gem spec dependency to >= 3.0? -- Daniel Lyons[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
The hard_breaks bug is even worse than this, I think. When you turn on hard_breaks it totally ignores all block specifiers except the first one (http://rubyforge.org/pipermail/redcloth-upwards/2006-June/49.html). When hard_breaks is on this: p. 703.289.3820 *tel* 703.359.0952 *fax* p. "[EMAIL PROTECTED]":mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Becomes: 703.289.3820 tel703.359.0952 fax p. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] This happens with hn. marks and everything (yikes!). Downgrading RedCloth to 3.0.3 seems to fix it, and with hard_breaks you get: 703.289.3820 tel703.359.0952 fax mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED] I haven't tried downgrading RedCloth with Radiant, but as far as I can tell it should work??? The 0.5.2 gem spec depends on RedCloth >= 3.0.3. I for one would rather not insert tags all over my mark up. If I was gonna do that I'd just do everything in straight HTML. I like the simplicity of Textile. Paul > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 18:59:05 +0200 > From: Keith Bingman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Radiant] Redcloth > To: radiant@lists.radiantcms.org > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > John W. Long wrote: >> Keith Bingman wrote: >>> Does that make sense? >> >> So to clarify, you give it the following: >> >>MI 31.08. digi lounging >>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party >>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production >>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house >> >> And expect: >> >>MI 31.08. digi lounging >>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party >>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production >>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house >> >> But instead get: >> >>MI 31.08. digi lounging >>DO 01.09. rive gauche opening party >>FR 02.09. csaba, crying soul production >>SA 03.09. l'un est l'autre, deep'n sexy house >> >> ? >> >> -- >> John Long >> http://wiseheartdesign.com > > Yes, this is how it usually works in Textile, at least in Textpattern. > As Dean Allen wrote both, one would expect that that is the way it was > inteneded to work. > > _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work > for me. > > > Keith Bingman > > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] 3rd party host, need to update?
Erik Mallinson wrote: > I realize this is a stupid n00b question but I haven't the time this > summer to dedicate towards learning Ruby, RoR, and Radiant that I was > hoping for; I'm hoping kind soul will answer my question instead. > > If I use Dreamhost do I need to upgrade to 0.5.2 because of the RoR > security updates? Doesn't Dreamhost install RoR? If your not sure if Dreamhost is running patched versions of the old Rails versions, I would highly recommend that you upgrade to 0.5.2. > Bonus question: What's a good place to learn the ins and outs of SVN? > I've installed Radiant via SVN and I'd like to upgrade in that way too. The best thing I've found is the Subversion book: http://svnbook.red-bean.com/ It's a bit verbose at times, but is a great reference manual. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
[Radiant] [Out of office] Re: 3rd party host, need to update?
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[Radiant] 3rd party host, need to update?
Hi, I realize this is a stupid n00b question but I haven't the time this summer to dedicate towards learning Ruby, RoR, and Radiant that I was hoping for; I'm hoping kind soul will answer my question instead. If I use Dreamhost do I need to upgrade to 0.5.2 because of the RoR security updates? Doesn't Dreamhost install RoR? Bonus question: What's a good place to learn the ins and outs of SVN? I've installed Radiant via SVN and I'd like to upgrade in that way too. Thank you, Erik Mallinson ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
[Radiant] [Out of office] Re: [Out of office] Re: Re: Redcloth
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[Radiant] [Out of office] Re: Re: Redcloth
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Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
Keith Bingman wrote: > I meant to include this, but forgot: > > http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html > > He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it > disables paragraphs. Oh well... I think I'm going to side with _why for now. In the meantime you can just use tags between lines. -- John Long http://wiseheartdesign.com ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] Redcloth
John W. Long wrote: > Keith Bingman wrote: >> _why seems to have other feelings, but this is how it would ideally work >> for me. > > Could you point me to a url about this? > > -- > John Long > http://wiseheartdesign.com I meant to include this, but forgot: http://redhanded.hobix.com/inspect/usingRedcloth3.html He states that you can switch hard breaks on, but when I try this, it disables paragraphs. Oh well... Keith BIngman -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
Re: [Radiant] How to add images to pages?
bodhi wrote: > On 18/08/2006, at 12:20 AM, dror tirosh wrote: > >> Hi, >> I did the page_part_types patch before, which allows having parts of >> different types. >> I'm not sure there was a huge interest at it at the time, but I use it >> for a site that my writers are not very computer capable. > > I'm using it here :) > >> If you are interested and if that seems to answer your need you can >> write back to me, at the moment there is no patch for the 0.5 version. >> Dror > > Dror, does the patch on trac not work for 0.5.2? > > Bodhi I have been using this a lot as well. The patch fails with 0.5.2, but I think it is something minor to fix (I ran a bunch of patches at once, so I am not real clear). In any case I have it working. I do have one problem, when one chooses a attachment part_type, but does not upload an attachtement, I get an error. The if params[:file] should take care of this, but does not seem to. This idea makes Radiant into an even more flexible system. I just created a site with a gallery, using this. Each image is it's own page, a child of the gallery itself. This allows me to use the normal Radius tags and makes setup a snap. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ Radiant mailing list Radiant@lists.radiantcms.org http://lists.radiantcms.org/mailman/listinfo/radiant
