[SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
I recently purchased the Squeezebox radio as my third squeezebox device. Other 2 devices work fine wirelessly. This device will not connect with Wep security turned on. I spent 1.5 hours on the phone with a technician who knew very little about networking/device/etc? I can connect if I turn all security off. Device also works fine via ethernet? I have reset to factory defaults. Powered on and off my router countless times. I have reinstalled the latest firmware for radio twice at suggestion of Logitech support. I see lots of other wireless threads with many people having success in the end. Is there anything else I should try or is my unit most likely defective? Thanks. Dirk -- dklingner dklingner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33045 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
Muele;491869 Wrote: > I'd be glad to get a remote :) I'll sell you one for $39.99 (saves you $10!) :-) -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Stuck Playlist Repeat
Strange problem. I can't change 'Repeat ' (settings -> repeat), its stuck in 'playlist' It will briefly switch to 'off', then goes back to 'playlist' (I've tried re-installing firmware, and a factory re-set) Has anyone had this problem? -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72178 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
dklingner;491959 Wrote: > > This device will not connect with Wep security turned on. I spent 1.5 > hours on the phone with a technician who knew very little about > networking/device/etc? > A cow-orker had a similar problem: my question is simple:... "why are you using WEP?" WEP is -trivial- to compromise and has been so for years. The only reason you should use it is if you have something on your network that absolutely needs it: and even then, I would discard the device... since that makes everything on your network sniffable. The only "no known exploits" wireless protocol right now is WPA2/AES. Can you move to that? If so, I would. Problem solved and you'll actually have security. Again, WEP can be broken in less than a minute. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
Muele;491869 Wrote: > I'd be glad to get a remote :) Personally, I need another Remote like I need another hole in my head. I don't think the Touch should even come with a remote. Only the Transporter should come with a remote in my opinion. Lower the price on Boom, Radio, and Touch and only sell the Backlit Remote as an accessory and a stand alone SB Radio Battery. If it was my decision or company that is what I would do. Also, every time I wear out the battery on my SB Radio, I 'HAVE' to buy another Remote with it? What kind of sense does that make? The SB Radio battery should be sold as a stand alone accessory for around 29 Dollars. One only needs to look at the Forum Users Signatures to know that "Most" people end up owning more then one Squeezebox once they start using the products. With the Controller available as well as iPeng for iPhone and iTouch, many remotes are mainly collecting dust. In the last month, I can only remember picking up a Remote twice and that was only to add a Loved track to Last.FM not to control a Player. And if the WebUI had an easy way to "Love" a track, I wouldn't even have used the Remote those last two times. Did I mention the last thing I need is another remote laying around? -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
iPhone;491984 Wrote: > . > Also, every time I wear out the battery on my SB Radio, I 'HAVE' to buy > another Remote with it? What kind of sense does that make?.. I've wondered that myself. Continually charging these batteries would likely wear them out, no? Maybe they can implement a "no charge" menu item to disable battery charging for added battery longevity. Yes, one could always remove the battery to accomplish this. :) -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
iPhone;491984 Wrote:
> In the last month, I can only remember picking up a Remote twice and
> that was only to add a Loved track to Last.FM not to control a Player.
> And if the WebUI had an easy way to "Love" a track, I wouldn't even have
> used the Remote those last two times.
The Web remote control on mysqueezebox.com allows adding a "Love" track
to Last.fm
iPeng also allows it (at least when connected via mysqueezebox.com)
Tony ("We don't need no stinkin' remotes")
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
Tony T;491989 Wrote: > The Web remote control on mysqueezebox.com allows adding a "Love" track > to Last.fm > iPeng also allows it (at least when connected via mysqueezebox.com) > > Hey Tony, Thanks for making me look harder for a means to Love a track inside the Server WebUI. I hardly ever use Mysb.com, I use the SBS WEBUI locally. I didn't know that I can click on the song title that is playing in the Right pane which opens the song in the Left pane and the first line is "Last.FM: Love this Track". What is that old saying, Learn something new everyday. I had either forgotten about this or didn't look hard enough for it. Again thanks for the nudge. Now I really don't need a Remote! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Stuck Playlist Repeat
Tony T;491961 Wrote: > Strange problem. I can't change 'Repeat ' (settings -> repeat), its > stuck in 'playlist' Looks like it's the Slacker Radio App that puts the 'Repeat" into 'Playlist' mode. -- Tony T Tony T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34544 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72178 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
If I had a Radio I would definitely need a remote (the Radio would be sitting on a shelf where I had to lean all over the kitchen table to operate it), but I would have no use for a battery at all. :) Chances are, however, that if they were selling the battery and the remote separately, the battery would still cost the same or even more than the bundle because two separate products would require twice the logistics. I guess that is how economy works these days, everything you buy comes bundled with something you don't need. I cannot count how many earphones and USB cables I already have. -- usch usch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33389 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Appears to be playing, but no sound?
A few Logi employees are complaining that their Radios sometimes appear to be playing, but no sound comes out. Rebooting the units seems to fix the problem. Has anyone seen this, or better yet have an idea how to reproduce it? Thanks for any info! -- ChrisOwens Christopher Owens QA Manager chris_ow...@logitech.com ChrisOwens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4240 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72182 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Now it stopped working altogether (German data center of MYSB is done for?)
Phil Leigh;491789 Wrote: > The basic touch works fine for me and has done for a long while - the > inbuilt SBS needs some more work before release. Likewise I've not had a > problem with my Radio. I don't use the alarm functions. The built-in SBS is the key feature of the Touch as the alarm function is the key feature of the radio. So for both devices, the key features don't work correctly. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71964 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Appears to be playing, but no sound?
ChrisOwens;492006 Wrote: > A few Logi employees are complaining that their Radios sometimes appear > to be playing, but no sound comes out. Rebooting the units seems to fix > the problem. Has anyone seen this, or better yet have an idea how to > reproduce it? > > Thanks for any info! Yes, occasionally on station playback, never experienced it on local music playback. I presumed it was just a station URL drop or other such internet/MySB/station issue. -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72182 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
usch;491997 Wrote: > If I had a Radio I would definitely need a remote (the Radio would be > sitting on a shelf where I had to lean all over the kitchen table to > operate it), but I would have no use for a battery at all. :) > > Chances are, however, that if they were selling the battery and the > remote separately, the battery would still cost the same or even more > than the bundle because two separate products would require twice the > logistics. I guess that is how economy works these days, everything you > buy comes bundled with something you don't need. I cannot count how many > earphones and USB cables I already have. Some people will need a Remote. Some of those already have more SB remotes then they can use. Logitech already has a Remote for sell that is separate all by itself so adding a Battery only is about the same as adding a Battery/Remote package. Either way, still two items with two sku's, taking up two shelf locations. In my opinion might as well just be a battery only and a backlit remote only. That way if I only need a Remote, then buy the Remote. If I only need a Battery, just buy a Battery. If I need both, then buy both. Pretty simple and every time I wear out a Battery, I don't end up with another useless unused Remote when I replace the Battery! -- iPhone *iPhone* Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, Vandersteen Speakers: Quatro Mains, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Video: Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: Second Boom Bathroom: Squeezebox Radio Ford Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini Ford Expedition: SB Touch, USB drive iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] What is minimum version of Squeeze Center/Server needed
He posted asking if anyone wanted him to update the patch. I posted that I did, then the next post is the bug getting moved to 8.0. I contacted him recently and he said he might consider updating the patch over the holidays. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72126 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Appears to be playing, but no sound?
All Squeezeboxes have done this on occasion since day one. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72182 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Buttons stopped working during alarm
ModelCitizen;491724 Wrote: > Until the Touch is released Logitech do not appear to be devoting any > resources to fixing bugs in their existing Squeeze products. > > Lets hope the Touch is released before Christmas hey? Even if they should dare to release the Touch with software in pre-alpha state before Xmas, this wouldn't improve the situation for Radio users as the work on the Touch software will most probably take another 2-3 months until people really want to keep it. Dunno if I my patience lasts long enough to wait that long to get the most basic Radio issues fixed. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72003 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Wireless Help - won't work with WEP
I run WEP 64 without issue. Your troubles sound vaguely familiar - I remember having trouble on initial startup of the Radio because this radio wasn't behaving the same way as my Squeezebox V3 and my Boom. When you go to mysqueezebox.com and look at your players does it appear as connected? If yes, have you tried disconnecting it there? This may be waste of time but that is what got me past my frustrating hurdle with playing radio on my network, and since then it's been great. As for the snarkydwarf's comments - I run WEP too - in my case I figure if there is anybody insane enough to want to spend the effort hacking into my network in the middle of nowhere they probably deserve it. It just ain't worth the time to go mess with 15 of my devices and get them all converted over to WPA. -Dan -- danull danull's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5998 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72177 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox radio too loud
pippin;491105 Wrote: > Unfortunately you can't embed a slider directly into a menu like in > iPeng, AFAIK. I hear that! SB Touch should seize this opportunity to make the gear more zone/sync-friendly. Here's a UI suggestion for Radio: press the volume knob (which in 7.4 toggles the mute state) and get a screen like Code: Volume for synced players xx--- Volume for this player xx--- Volume for Den xxx-- Volume for Kitchen - Use the nav wheel to select a line, and the volume knob to change the volume of the selected line. Mute is toggled by pressing a knob while a line is highlighted, so you could easily mute any or all players. Use three different colors for the volume indicators: one for the whole sync group, one for the local player, and the other color for each of the other players. Let users decide whether simple volume knob turns (i.e., using the volume knob on any other screen) control local or all synced players' volumes. If the knob normally controlled the whole sync group, the first line should be "Volume for synced players". So your typical volume control would just require turning the volume knob, and the other normal case would require you to tap the volume knob once to bring up the special screen, nav down once, and then use the volume knob. Muting whatever the volume knob normally controls would require two taps. The "Volume for synced players" indicator would show the average volume of all players in the sync group. This should be very doable in an applet. Any takers? -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=70903 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
usch;491997 Wrote: > If I had a Radio I would definitely need a remote (the Radio would be > sitting on a shelf where I had to lean all over the kitchen table to > operate it), but I would have no use for a battery at all. :) I wouldn't be so sure about needing a remote with the SB Radio. Last night I happened to grab my Boom remote and try to use it on the Radio from around 7 feet (2m) and after turning it on it was useless because I couldn't read the Radio screen from that distance. My eyes are pretty good, but I don't think the Radio screen is readable from much further than arm's length anyway. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Accessory Pack
aubuti;492151 Wrote: > I wouldn't be so sure about needing a remote with the SB Radio. Last > night I happened to grab my Boom remote and try to use it on the Radio > from around 7 feet (2m) and after turning it on it was useless because I > couldn't read the Radio screen from that distance. My eyes are pretty > good, but I don't think the Radio screen is readable from much further > than arm's length anyway. Hah. I was just writing that the remote does have some use with Radio. It's worthless, I'll admit, for navigating onscreen text, but for launching presets, skipping tracks, adjusting the volume, pausing, turning Radio off, etc., a remote is still nice to have. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ Free plugins: 'AllQuiet' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AllQuiet.html) 'Auto Dim/AutoDisplay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/AutoDisplay.html) 'BlankSaver' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/BlankSaver.html) 'ContextMenu' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/ContextMenu.html) 'FuzzyTime' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/FuzzyTime.html) 'KidsPlay' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KidsPlay.html) 'KitchenTimer' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/KitchenTimer.html) 'PlayLog' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PlayLog.html) 'PowerCenter/BottleRocket' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/PowerCenter.html) 'SaverSwitcher' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SaverSwitcher.html) 'SettingsManager' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SettingsManager.html) 'SleepFade' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SleepFade.html) 'StatusFirst' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/StatusFirst.html) 'SyncOptions' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/SyncOptions.html) 'VolumeLock' (http://www.tux.org/~peterw/slim/VolumeLock.html) peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72165 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] How do I Connect to Home Server across Internet?
I'd like to move my Squeezebox Radio to my office and use my home Squeezebox server. I'm able to connect to this using Softsqueeze, so it would seem that it would be possible to do the same with the radio... My home server has dynamic DNS setup, so I can get to it via name. I can't seem to figure out how to do this the radio. -- kennyschiff kennyschiff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How do I Connect to Home Server across Internet?
Thats a limitation in all squeezebox hardware players and also squeezeplay. You can only enter an ip adress as the server adress. There is an ingnored enhancement req for that. If your isp can give you fixed ip your ok, or like my isp the IP is semi permanent they only change it when necessary, not daily or something stupid like that. Dont forget to port forward both 9000 tcp and 3483tcp/udp in your router. Why ? My theory is that *They* don't "want" to do it as squeezeboxserver is nothing close to secure, you punch a hole into your server from the internet. But thats up to the user imho, there have been discussions on a better more secure way to do this, I basically wants to eventually have a player at my Parents place . -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBRto be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to controll this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How do I Connect to Home Server across Internet?
There may be a way to do this. Have a look at http://www.neorouter.com. It has some proxy capabilities. This may or may not work. Haven't tried it. Install Neorouter server on any computer (the SBS?). Install Neorouter client on the SBS. Install Neorouter client and proxy on a computer at the remote lan. Point your Radio to the proxy. There could be other ways to do this i guess. Some kind of routing or something? Or vote here. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68799 -- bernt 'LastFM' (http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/) SB3, SB BOOM - SC 7.3.4 - Ubuntu Server 9.04 iPod Touch\iPeng bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72197 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
