Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
sSNICKERSs;539357 Wrote: I checked my internet connection and there is no problem at this time (why should I have problem only when alarm is playing ). This is no proof at all. When you normally play a stream it is buffered, so you won't realize short dropouts. Just play your Radio, kill the internet and see how long it still plays ... The alarm is very strict with connection dropout (as it doesn't know when the connection will come back nor if it can still trust the server who typically sends the next alarm time after reconnection killing the previous - which you DON'T want inbetween an alarm when you didn't wake up yet). So please provide logs from your Radio. As you posted in quite every thread about alarms I'm sure you read the instructions already how to do so. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm and Sleep time combination
Is it possible to have the unit switch itself off after a selected period of time, after an alarm. For example Alarm goes off at 6:30 Unit switches itself off at 8. I know I can set the sleep manually, but is there a way to set it so it does it daily without any intervention. -- StuRat StuRat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77987 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm and Sleep time combination
There should be, if you are running the Radio attached to the software server (rather than to MYSB.com). First set the Alarm timeout for the amount of time you want to hear music for. Option 1 is to install the PowerSave plugin. The Alarm will only run for the time set in the alarm (default is 60 mins, but I have mine set for 90). Then set the PowerSave plugin to switch off the player on Pause or Stop after 15 mins. This will switch the Radio off. Option 2 if your server supports it is to install the Server Power Control plugin which can suspend your server after a certain period of idle time. So I have it set to suspend the server (i.e. switch off the software) after 40 mins if all players are idle. It will restart by pressing the power button on the Radio. You can also combine 1 and 2. -- Siduhe Who am I on 'LAST.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/siduhe)? -Siduhe Loved Tracks radio got the thumbs up. Feedback included: yeah, it's good... got the odd dodgy track tho...- (c) 'ModelCitizen' (http://www.last.fm/user/Modelcitizen) Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77987 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 2 SB radios stutter when sync`d
this is probably a local issue - I stream sync'd to 4/5 players consistently from WHS - so the system works. I have seen stuttering in the past and the following changes have eliminated it:- 1) moved from wifi to Homeplug (though Boom remians wireless and doesn't affect performance 2) upgraded (and then replaced) router 3) upgraded memory in WHS box (the original HP MediaSmarts have just enough memory to run WHS but not an extra services). High signal strength doesn't guarantee good bandwidth - if a nearby channel also has high strength, it can 'interefere'. Try 'netstumbler' to see what is heppening in your wifi neighbourhood or temporarily wire both Radios (if they work okay wired then you have your culprit). -- DigitalMitch 2 * SB3, 1 * Boom, 2 * SBR, 1 * Radio and 1 * Touch controlled by IR, SBC [and iPeng on iPhone - wifi died!!] 7.5.0 on WHS on HP MediaSmart (EX470) upgraded to 2G RAM http://www.last.fm/user/digimich DigitalMitch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15999 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77819 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio audio fine on mysqueezebox.com but stutters on any SB Server???
I think you better call support. :( -- toby10 toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77947 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm should not go off if SBR is already playing Music
mpower9;540734 Wrote: I have had this happen to me as well. At the moment, I think the only way to deal with the problem is to press the alarm button on the front of the radio and deactivate the alarm before it goes off. Perhaps we should request this as an enhancement on the bug page. I'd suggest you don't bother, honestly. The current alarm implementation is obviously quite buggy and I strongly speculate it will not get better. On the contrary, I proffer that it will only get worse as modifications like this one are added (if Logitech even chooses to attempt such modifications, which I think unlikely and/or unwise at this point). Every feature enhancement like this one (despite the request's very reasonable character) ends up being a band-aid modification to the existing alarm implementation. Because the architecture of the alarm system is wrong (yes, I say that definitively and with absolute conviction), every modification to the current implementation proportionally increases the chances that a regression in operation will be introduced. You can see how unstable alarms are at present... If this feedback causes any consternation then please go do a search for all the work I did previously in the context of fixing the broken Radio alarm system before bothering to chastise me. Every time Logitech touches the alarm functionality it is regressed (as you can see through objective evaluation of feedback on this forum in the context of new firmware releases). There are multiple reasons for this, but the primary overriding reason is as follows: - The alarm system architecture is plain wrong. No amount of fiddling with either the server (MySB.com or SBS) or the client (Radio) is likely to resolve this situation, as that same fiddling is clearly introducing more regression problems than resolutions. This is typically the case when a client/server application of any kind is inappropriately architected at the outset. Some may dispute the fact that I fixed the alarm system once (as best as was possible, considering the inappropriate architecture that was already in place). Yet, irrespective of their protests (and of Logitech's modifications to my implementation, which I warned against), I did indeed band-aid the alarm system to work properly at one time for the firmware 7.4.1 release. Much of my alarm system band-aid implementation code remains in the existing distributed alarm system today (that implementation has been changed by Logitech, however). The reality is that no band-aid on the Radio firmware side would have worked for long, however (even if my band-aid had been unmodified before public release), while changes continued to the server side of alarm operation. There are too many variables at play in the Radio alarm system operation, and like any client/server application that is initially architected incorrectly it will invariably suffer from instability and creeping regression as changes are incrementally introduced. Re-architecting it wouldn't be such a difficult thing to do, but apparently Logitech lacks the combination of time and/or incentive to do so. I would do it myself, but frankly have already fixed the Radio alarm system once and am weary of beating my head against the wall. I won't volunteer again to do it on my own time... Marc -- Marc Marc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34776 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77945 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
As I said, it sould be very strange that this behaviour just begin with new firmware, no ? Just fefore, it worked well except the ghost alarms. And why is it ok on my Boom ? This morning my radio was playing nothing. It was on, on the display I can see the name of the radio stream but no sound, no back up alarm. I just select this radio from the preset : it is ok ! So if I had a problem with my connection I sould have backup alarm. Please, stop saying we are just not able to detect bug. We have a brain, whe have knowlegde too ? And I say that this Radio has many bugs, and in the alarm function too. A+ -- sSNICKERSs sSNICKERSs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=20135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio audio fine on mysqueezebox.com but stutters on any SB Server???
I am running fine on mysqueezebox.com for now. Thank goodness Rhapsody has so much stuff lol. You are right support time it is. Rats -- arosstyler arosstyler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37174 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77947 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
sSNICKERSs;540833 Wrote: ... And I say that this Radio has many bugs, and in the alarm function too. A+ I think most of us would agree that the Radio still has some room for improvements, but they are more likely (imho) if the bugs can be verified (e.g. by providing logs). :) -- copperstate copperstate's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
sSNICKERSs;540833 Wrote: We have a brain, whe have knowlegde too ? And I say that this Radio has many bugs, and in the alarm function too. No doubt that the Radio has many bugs. But if you refuse to provide logs we don't have any knowledge (and brain without knowlegde is useless). The logs would tell us dozens more things which just can't be expressed by your very coarse grained sentences about failures. Too many things are involved and the only truth is in the log-files. -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] How do I switch to MSB from SBS?
Hi All Sorry for such a total newbie question but I've yet to find a simple way of switching from SBS to MSB using the Radio itself. I can do it from the SBS Web Control but would have though it could be done from the radio itself? I've added 'Switch Library' to the Radio's Home Screen but this will omly ever let me switch to SBS (My Library) when I'm in MSB. It won't let me switch back to MSB if I'm SBS. Does this question make sense? Thanks Jason rebelrebelzs -- rebelrebelzs rebelrebelzs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78003 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How do I switch to MSB from SBS?
the first hint which i can give to you is just choose: Internetradio - our suggestion... or something like the. i don´t know the exact line coz my SB Radio runs under german skin :-) any other clues? Ciao Josh -- joshuar joshuar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78003 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How do I switch to MSB from SBS?
Brilliant!!! Thanks for that toby10, I knew there had to be a way. Can't understand why it isn't on the homescreen by default. Cheers Jason rebelrebelzs -- rebelrebelzs rebelrebelzs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37861 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78003 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Mediafly podcast sequence
I wonder if anyone else shares this problem: I have the Mediafly News Politics channel saved as a preset. The newest podcasts appear at the top of the list; some of them such as CNN news are updated multiple times per day. Until quite recently (probably the 7.5 firmware but I can't be sure), I would touch the preset and it would start playing from the top of the list. This way I could instantly get the latest news update. Now it begins playing on the podcast following the one I last streamed, which might be well down the list and therefore older. Is this a bug or a feature? I much prefer the old way, at least for this particular channel. -- frb63 frb63's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78005 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
you already found the cause. The radio thinks the stream is not playing - maybe because it didn't start fast enough - or the connection to the podcast at this time didn't give a good stream ? If I try the stream http://static.orf.at/podcast/oe1/mp3/OE1_journale_fj6.MP3 I get a 404 in my browser (is this the real URL - at least the radio wanted to get a file name 'OE1_journale_fj6.MP3' ?) If I look at the XML-File from your link there is a file http://static.orf.at/podcast/oe1/mp3/OE1_journale_100426_fj6.MP3 Thats a different filename than the radio wanted to get ?! How did you configure this podcast ? With the XML-file (never tried podcasts myself with the radio) ? I'd always start the alarm with simple things first, like normal internet-radio or mp3s from a local connection. There is also a connection timeout at 20:02:15 in your log. Maybe this is related ? Maybe the mp3-stream really wasn't just there at this server and the Radio had no other chance than to play the fallback ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Problem with alarm sound
Sorry - I just saw, that you are running on MySB.com so you can't provide server logs. One more question: what was the actual time you scheduled your alarm ? 05:14:00 ? MySqueezeBox is sending the events at 05:14:15 - 05:14:18 ... so if the alarm is really at 05:14:00, MySB is behind full 15 seconds ! Then it wouldn't be surprising that the fallback alarm gets nervous and fires (typically it just waits about 10seconds) ! If you look at the logs from this guy: http://static.orf.at/podcast/oe1/mp3/OE1_journale_100426_fj6.MP3 you see that the same events are 'just' 0-2 seconds behind the actual alarm time - which would be the expected timing! I wonder if all this is MySB.com related ? If you tried it again then it really is a support-case as with the logs you can prove that MySB.com is too slow for proper alarms. On the other hand you could tweak the fallback-timer yourself (until the next firmware upgrade). You can change the file /usr/share/jive/applets/AlarmSnooze/AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua Near the end you will find the lines Code: -- get msecs between now and requested alarm -- add 10 secs for fallback timer to bias alarm toward server wakeup local sleepMsecs = self:_deltaMsecs(self.alarmNext + 10); Make the 10 a 20 in the last line :D -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77883 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio Accessory Pack
For what it's worth, a Logitech CSR told me today that the battery accessory pack would be available in the U.S. the first or second week of May. She said that she received that information from her supervisor. Let's hope. -- youngml2009 youngml2009's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32079 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77459 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Step forward in iplayer listen again content
Is the question whether fwd/rew could be made better for long programmes? The issue is this is a standard player feature rather than anything specfic to iplayer - though I think its worth raising as a feature to be fixed in the player firmware. I think the main issue is how long it takes to forward through a long programme? If there was some acceleration would this help? -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77954 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How to get a traditional alarm sound?
Jakearama;539346 Wrote: Just trying to help. sorry - didn't want to sound unpolite! = the reason for a forum is to help each other! thanks for the step-by-step description! best regards! simsboard -- simsboard so far only 1x Squeezebox Radio with selfmade batterykit mainly used with mysb.com http://www.lastfm.de/user/weanabazi simsboard's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33135 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76047 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Problem with alarm sound
Yes. Alarm is set to 5:14 ...My backup alarm, a $5 alarm clock, is set
to 5:15 ;)
The alarm worked fine today - nothing at all changed as far as settings
on the radio. I just left it alone.
For comparison, here is today's log, where the alarm worked correctly
Apr 26 05:04:15 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:70 WOL packet being sent to SlimServer
{mysqueezebox.com}
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode -
decode_start_handler:275 init decoder mp3
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:436
connect 66.150.114.115:80 GET /static/sounds/natural/rooster_crow.mp3
HTTP/1.0^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:439 GET
/static/sounds/natural/rooster_crow.mp3 HTTP/1.0^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: Cache-Control: no-cache^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: Connection: close^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: Accept: */*^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: Host: www.mysqueezebox.com^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: User-Agent: iTunes/4.7.1 (Windows; N;
Windows 2000; 586; EN; cp1252) SqueezeCenter, Squeezebox
Server/7.5.0/30464^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: Icy-Metadata: 1^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: ^M
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO applet.SlimMenus -
SlimMenusApplet.lua:441 _menuSink(1) nil menuDirective: add
isCurrentServer:true
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO applet.SlimMenus -
SlimMenusApplet.lua:713 hiding any 'connecting to server' popup after
menu response from current server, SlimServer {x Music Library}
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:239 notify_playerLoaded(LocalPlayer {Squeezebox
Radio})
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:543 Hiding popup, exists?: nil
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:62 RTC ALARM FIRING
Apr 26 05:14:15 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:382 openAlarmWindow()rtc true
Apr 26 05:14:16 squeezeplay: INFO squeezeplay - JiveMain.lua:207 Turn
soft power on
Apr 26 05:14:16 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:432 openAlarmWindow: fallback alarm activation
Apr 26 05:14:16 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:373 soundFallbackAlarm()
Apr 26 05:14:16 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode - Playback.lua:173
loop file applets/AlarmSnooze/alarm.mp3
Apr 26 05:14:16 squeezeplay: INFO audio.decode -
decode_start_handler:275 init decoder mp3
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:260 notify_playerModeChange: player (LocalPlayer
{Squeezebox Radio}) mode has been changed to play
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:262 notify_playerModeChange: - audioState is 1
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:115 notify_playerAlarmState received for
LocalPlayer {Squeezebox Radio} with alarmState of active
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:117
notify_playerAlarmState received: active 0
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:132 ignoring alarm notification because fallback
fired prior
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.NowPlaying -
NowPlayingApplet.lua:877 repeat button style changed to: repeatOff
Apr 26 05:14:18 squeezeplay: WARN applet.NowPlaying -
NowPlayingApplet.lua:853 shuffle button style changed to: shuffleOff
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: INFO applet.SlimMenus -
SlimMenusApplet.lua:441 _menuSink(1) nil menuDirective: add
isCurrentServer:true
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: INFO applet.SlimMenus -
SlimMenusApplet.lua:713 hiding any 'connecting to server' popup after
menu response from current server, SlimServer {x Music Library}
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: INFO applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:239 notify_playerLoaded(LocalPlayer {Squeezebox
Radio})
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: INFO applet.ChooseMusicSource -
ChooseMusicSourceApplet.lua:543 Hiding popup, exists?: nil
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:260 notify_playerModeChange: player (LocalPlayer
{Squeezebox Radio}) mode has been changed to stop
Apr 26 05:14:19 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:262 notify_playerModeChange: - audioState is 0
Apr 26 05:14:21 squeezeplay: INFO squeezeplay.applets -
AppletManager.lua:708 store settings: Playback
Apr 26 05:14:21 squeezeplay: INFO applet.SlimDiscovery -
SlimDiscoveryApplet.lua:517 notify_playerPower: true
Apr 26 05:14:26 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:363 _pollDecodeState(rtc): audioState is 0
Apr 26 05:14:26 squeezeplay: WARN applet.AlarmSnooze -
AlarmSnoozeApplet.lua:219 alarm_sledgehammerRearm(_pollDecodeState):
rtc alarm in progress - audioState is 0
Apr 26 05:14:26 squeezeplay: WARN
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Rolling back firmware - howto
What is amazing is that when I have the old firmware in place, the radio plays on and on. When it somehow restarts and installs the firmware without asking, which it does seem to be doing occasionally, I can instantly tell because the music stops on a regular basis. I was thinking about buying one of the new squeezebox touch units, but I have lost a lot of confidence in squeezebox and don't want to invest any more money in units until these problems are fixed and I get a warm feeling about the brand again. -- shacky4 shacky4's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77742 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] NEW roblem with alarm
no I don't have an idea - but just thinking that the file gets transmitted to MySB.com and back to your Radio sounds at least adventurous *g* isn't there at least an easier way if you run a squeezebox-server on your local webserver ? -- bluegaspode 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 1xSB-Radio Server (7.4.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. Secondary 7.4 Server on Debianized Buffalo Linkstation LS-CHL. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77807 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] How to get a traditional alarm sound?
The problem is simply a lack of sounds! Find or make some royalty-free alarm clock loops and I'll be happy to add them to the Sounds Effects list. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76047 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm has been set, and is on -- but does not work no icon
Rik;538803 Wrote: I have this problem with my Squeezebox Radio. I set an alarm at a certain time and make sure the alarm sound is selected and the alarm is on (on today). Up until yesterday I saw a small alarm icon at the bottom line of my SB Radio and when I switched it off I could see it at the screensaver. ... Does anyone have any hints? E.g. is there a way to do a real reset (back to whatever state - old firmware, etc compared to factory reset) of the SBR? I've seen the same problem in my Radio during the last week or so. I suspect it's server related, because: - The problem is reproducible with both the 7.5 firmware and the latest 7.5.1 firmware, it doesn't matter which one I use. - If I switch to my 7.5.1 server it doesn't work but when I switch to my 7.5.0 server it works. The strange thing is that you are using 7.5.0 server and it doesn't work if I understand you correctly ? So this means that it's probably related to server configuration and not server version. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77732 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm has been set, and is on -- but does not work no icon
I think I solved my problem by editing the server.prefs file manually, I changed: Code: alarms: 2690edf6: _comment: ~ _createTime: 1272412279.05941 _days: - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 _enabled: 1 _id: 2690edf6 _playlist: dynamicplaylist://sqlplaylist_Blandade 1 _repeat: 1 _time: 25200 _title: ~ _volume: ~ 74755432: _comment: ~ _createTime: 1271625089.29396 _days: ~ _enabled: 1 _id: 74755432 _playlist: ~ _repeat: 1 _time: 86640 _title: ~ _volume: ~ To this: Code: alarms: 2690edf6: _comment: ~ _createTime: 1272412279.05941 _days: - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 _enabled: 1 _id: 2690edf6 _playlist: dynamicplaylist://sqlplaylist_Blandade 1 _repeat: 1 _time: 25200 _title: ~ _volume: ~ Feels like there was an incorrect entry in there that caused the server to behave badly. I've no idea how it got there yet but now I have an alarm indication again and hopefully also a working alarm tomorrow morning. If more people see this, we should report it as a bug. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.isaksson.info) (Install my plugins through Extension Downloader) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library, Title Switcher and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.isaksson.info/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77732 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Problem with alarm sound
It's interesting that the log has the radio talking to mysqueezebox.com. I keep the radio connected to my local squeezebox server, not mysqueezebox I think that I read somewhere that the natural alarm sounds come from mysqueezebox? Could that be why it goes there? It's odd enough that an alarm function needs a server at all, but involving 2 different servers is beyond odd. One would think that a radio with a computer inside would be smart enough to simulate an alarm clock all by itself -- davenva davenva's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34191 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77883 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Problem with alarm sound
davenva;541096 Wrote: It's interesting that the log has the radio talking to mysqueezebox.com. I keep the radio connected to my local squeezebox server, not mysqueezebox I think that I read somewhere that the natural alarm sounds come from mysqueezebox? Could that be why it goes there? It's odd enough that an alarm function needs a server at all, but involving 2 different servers is beyond odd. One would think that a radio with a computer inside would be smart enough to simulate an alarm clock all by itself Correct. And agreed on all fronts. Many of the problems in the Radio software (because there are indeed many) stem from a couple of different angles. I know because I've delved into the code base quite deeply. While the alarm function is generally the most overtly seen to be problematic (for reasons involving criticality of the alarm function), that subsystem suffers from problems that are fundamentally more widespread in the Squeezebox Radio software foundation. The layers of functionality are not intuitively distributed, and the information passed between them doesn't always make sense or satisfy a need of an adjacent logic layer. Frankly, the interfaces and applications don't appear to have been coordinated in a fashion that makes a ton of sense. Much information is not easy to get to from the applet arena, and the Squeezebox central operating infrastructure (SqueezeOS, I think it's called - I've paid more attention to how it works) often acts and reacts in opaque ways that are neither foreseeable nor recognizable by applets. Since much of the Radio functionality is implemented at the applet layer, the lack of information often available to the applets makes it hard to build a lot of intelligence or fault tolerance into whatever particular functionality an applet owns. Additionally, serious shortcomings exist in the area of synchronization. Proverbially speaking, the left hand is often unaware of what the right hand is doing. An applet may be waiting for a local Radio software timer to expire and then start to play out a locally stored audio file (as in the case of the alarm system), while the server (whether MySB.com or SBS) is simultaneously sending an inbound message to the Radio which is itself determined to usurp the playout subsystem for its own purposes... This is exactly the primary issue, by the way, in the context of why alarms don't work right on the Radio. Overall, synchronization is a widespread and significant problem under the covers of the Radio. You'll see in another thread just updated recently that a particularly adept user has gleaned from the logfile that his Radio seemed to be talking to both his local SBS and public net based MySB.com at the same time. This happens frequently, and can be viewed in the perspective I shared above about synchronization problems within the Radio software itself. Those synchronization problems also exist across the Logitech SB network infrastructure as well. The left doesn't know what the right is doing... but they are both tweaking the same dial... Not a recipe for stability. Additionally, shared resources in general aren't handled the way they are typically in an embedded system. Of course this is my opinion, but then again I've built quite a large number of comparatively complex embedded systems over the years. These products included many of the same functional software blocks that are utilized in the Radio environment. The network application architecture is itself suspect in several areas. Again, the best example may be the alarm functionality - where the entirety of application logic outside of time synchronization and a streaming service call should reside local to the Radio implementation, yet where the server provides the actual primary alarm trigger via message to the Radio instead. Make no mistake, though, these types of problems aren't isolated in the Radio software. The volume handling is odd and crashes into itself too, when the Radio attempts to modify state locally even as some logic path separately invoked because of a server message is messing around with the same thing. The playout subsystem suffers from this problem in general, where you can't be confident from the applet space that what you've requested of the OS is being honored... There's more, but I'm sure everyone reading agrees that I've said plenty by now. It really is a shame, as the Radio is truly a fabulous piece of hardware and a great and compelling service platform. It would be a VERY COOL device if the software was thoughtfully built and the operation both stable and understandable. I'm starting to get the feeling that Logitech really doesn't really care about this product space. I truly believe they are squandering a huge prospective market of untapped consumers. At the current price point (which is also fabulous), and with the proliferation of both broadband and consumer 802.11 wireless adoption, if
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio audio fine on mysqueezebox.com but stutters on any SB Server???
Called support today. Narrowed it down to a messed up networking card. Took it back to Best Buy (5 days shy of 30 days haha lucky) and exchanged it based on Logitech advice. Sure enough new player works smoothas silk. Just like the last one did for weeks. Absolutely 0 stutter and only connected through mysqueezebox.com and also no stutter connecting through a local Squeezebox Server. Yep all wirelessly too. Let's hope this one lasts longer than 3 weeks. -- arosstyler arosstyler's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37174 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77947 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
