Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-11-09 Thread Billiam43

I've had the radio just three days and everything was going well ... too
well! Last night I turned the radio on and all of my presets were gone.
Totally erased. I am not running the server and I'm using the radio
strictly as an internet radio. I hadn't touched the radio since I used
it the night before so absolutely nothing was changed.
How in the world can the presets just erase themselves? What kind of
programming is this? I didn't pay full price for this radio to be a beta
tester!
I have 7.4.1 r7915 running.

While I'm at it, another thing I don't like at all is the way snooze
is handled. There's no way in a darkened room to navigate menus. My old
clock radio just used multiple presses of on to cycle through snooze
settings:
i.e ON ... 45 ... 30 ... 15 ... OFF ...

That seems to me to be the way to do it. No menu needed and the snooze
function is there when you turn the radio on if you want it.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-11-09 Thread jmpage2

It sounds as though the radio will lose presets if network connectivity
is interrupted under certain conditions.

Which is definitely a problem/bug.  The radio should store presets
locally and the condition of mysb.com or a local SB server should not
affect them.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-11-09 Thread peterw

jmpage2;483472 Wrote: 
 The radio still needs some kind of user interactive feedback to at least
 tell the user that it is aware of a button having been depressed.

Good point. For this, I think a popup with a big 1-6 number would
suffice, don't you? SBS/MySB could then start playback or push a popup
saying the preset was undefined.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-11-09 Thread jmpage2

peterw;483491 Wrote: 
 Good point. For this, I think a popup with a big 1-6 number would
 suffice, don't you? SBS/MySB could then start playback or push a popup
 saying the preset was undefined.

I can see the use of large format numerals from the standpoint that
there are plugins, etc, that will treat the buttons as something other
than presets.  For example, mapping one of the buttons to cycle
through sleep timer intervals on the device (I actually think that
turning the main knob left would be perfect for this purpose, then turn
the knob right to change the now playing screen).

However it is done, the radio should *immediately* communicate to the
user that it knows a preset button has been selected, then followed by
additional logic that tells the user that some activity is happening, or
the name of the preset as stored server side, etc.

As it is now it is too slow and has too poor of a user interaction to
be completely reliable.  As mentioned earlier, I select a preset button
for a playlist file and it is quite a few seconds before anything
happens on screen or audibly.

I could even the introduction of a hold music stream that streams to
the box before the actual audio starts playing.  Sounds kinda retro, and
most people probably would hate it!  ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-26 Thread toby10

Many SB customers use these players almost exclusively for Internet
Radio usage, and the SB Radio is particularly geared for that purpose. 

So much so that out of the box setup pretty much insists on connecting
to MySB online, which is great for first time SB users with no local
server but is then overly complicated for existing SB users running a
local server.

As Radish suggests, for Internet Radio  Podcast usage, just leave it
on MySB online.  
You'll give up some UI and customization controls using MySB over SBS,
but it also reduces the complexity for online content usage.   :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-26 Thread vintage veloce

So, it the preset and favorite handling is an acknowledged bug?

On the idea of using a single server, seeing how screwed up the
handling having both SBS and MySB is, I guess I have no choice! Bummer
given that I bought the radio for Internet Radio and podcasts!
Apparently this isn't really possible without breaking the presets and
favotites. Just making the problem clear.

On your proposed work around... How do I force the unit to stick with
MySB.com? That is my strong preference as the PC with the SBS on it
isn'talways around or on. I cannot find any setting to force the radio
to always use MySB... Must I delete the SBS server software from my PC?

Side note: (As Product Manager myself, I understand how a product can
come out with these kinds of issues, especially when new. I'd suggest
one of the problems with this radio at the moment is that it is marketed
as an Internet Radio, but much more sophisticated functionality has been
left in place (and some of that functionality is broken). Thus there is
alot of opportunity for customer confusion. I foolishly thought I was
buying an Internet radio... I didn't realize I had two servers to deal
with! I can deal with this, but I suspect less network savvy customers
are in for a bit of work or confusion.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-26 Thread radish

If all you want is internet radio then just don't run the server at all,
and it'll happily sit on mysb.com.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-26 Thread vintage veloce

Ok, So I will delete SBS from my PC and do a hard reset to the radio.
Maybe in a couple releases they will get the podcasts via Itunes
working without bungling the presets.
Carl


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-26 Thread lowfi

you can also control itÂ…

using a mobile phone
using the official remote
using an universal remote
telepathy
tell somebody to turn the volume on your sb radio
etc

I leave mine on mySB all the time. My linuxserver shuts down every
night at around 1.30 and i dont want the radio to send a wol packet to
turn it on every morning.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-25 Thread toby10

MySqueezeBox Integration only syncs basic player settings, not
Favorites.  Syncing of Favorites between SBS and MySB is coming but is
not currently supported.  I suspect this might be part of your losing
Podcasts and Favorites as your Radio is switching between SBS and MySB.

There certainly are many ways to control the SB players, but that's
part of the flexibility of the SB system to suit many varying needs and
different usage models.  Better documentation of each type of control
would be nice though.

What might help you, and as I've suggested to friends  family that I
have turned onto the SB players, is to try and use one server (local SBS
on your computer or MySB online) to control your player in the beginning
to get a better feel for using the SB system.  Preferably SBS as you
have better and more control over the players and access to your local
music.  Just an idea.  :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] preset and favorite bugs w/server 7.4.1

2009-10-24 Thread vintage veloce

lost the presets again... this is definitely busted...


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