[RBW] Re: looking for a Romulus headbadge (or a buyer for frame/fork?)
Aha! When ordering at Riv I always have to tell them I'm "San Carlos" Bill Rhea so as to not be confused with my (Portland?) doppleganger. I've never met anybody else with my surname that wasn't direct family, so it's doubly coincidental that my alter ego also rides a Riv If you see him, please send him my greetings! -br On Jan 9, 10:08 am, Mike wrote: > Oops, not cosmic at all. Wrong Bill Rhea. But I do know a Bill Rhea > with a Rivendell. Small world. > > But it is strange that your Rom broke in the same place as my Ram. > Good luck with the bike. > > --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
I wow her with my sparkly smile... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:26 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > > She: "And how much did this one cost?" > > And you told her? > > -Original Message- > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angus > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:03 PM > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam > > > My Rambouillet was a "sneak in" purchase...so was the Atlantis come to > think of it... > > I spent a couple of years working full time and going to business > school (dang near killed me but that's a different story). After > months of lusting over an orange Rambouillet I decided to purchase a > 64cm frame. My wife, smart, observant woman that she is, tends to > notice things, so I thought I should mention the purchase before the > large box arrived on our doorstep. > > Me: "Honey...err...I bought myself a gradution present." > > Wife: "What did you get?" > > Me: "Guess!" > > Wife: "OH GOD...Not another bike!" > > True story :-) > > Angus > > > On Jan 9, 4:24 pm, wrote: > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not > just > a > > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which > cost > > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but > you'd > > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife > felt > > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in > her > > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie > did > > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told > it, > > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict > bikes > > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > > > Stan > > Columbia, SC > > > > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
She: "And how much did this one cost?" And you told her? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angus Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:03 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam My Rambouillet was a "sneak in" purchase...so was the Atlantis come to think of it... I spent a couple of years working full time and going to business school (dang near killed me but that's a different story). After months of lusting over an orange Rambouillet I decided to purchase a 64cm frame. My wife, smart, observant woman that she is, tends to notice things, so I thought I should mention the purchase before the large box arrived on our doorstep. Me: "Honey...err...I bought myself a gradution present." Wife: "What did you get?" Me: "Guess!" Wife: "OH GOD...Not another bike!" True story :-) Angus On Jan 9, 4:24 pm, wrote: > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not just a > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which cost > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but you'd > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife felt > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in her > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie did > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told it, > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict bikes > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > Stan > Columbia, SC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
You: "No Dear, it's just a frame. I'm saving us money. And it's for my health. You want me to be healthy, right...?" Coincidentally, I happen to have three nice bikes that correspond to the gestation periods of my three kids... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Angus wrote: > > My Rambouillet was a "sneak in" purchase...so was the Atlantis come to > think of it... > > I spent a couple of years working full time and going to business > school (dang near killed me but that's a different story). After > months of lusting over an orange Rambouillet I decided to purchase a > 64cm frame. My wife, smart, observant woman that she is, tends to > notice things, so I thought I should mention the purchase before the > large box arrived on our doorstep. > > Me: "Honey...err...I bought myself a gradution present." > > Wife: "What did you get?" > > Me: "Guess!" > > Wife: "OH GOD...Not another bike!" > > True story :-) > > Angus > > > On Jan 9, 4:24 pm, wrote: > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not > just a > > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which > cost > > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but > you'd > > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife > felt > > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in > her > > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie > did > > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told > it, > > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict > bikes > > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > > > Stan > > Columbia, SC > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes
on 1/9/09 7:12 PM, Bill Connell at bconn...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: >> >> When we were in Carlsbad last Sunday didn't someone mention Grant talking >> about "yet" another wheel size, 600 something-ish? > > Grant wrote in a Reader a couple of years back about creating a 603mm > BSD rim size designed mostly to allow 700c racing bikes to take a > fatter tire. The idea is that you gain some clearance, but for frames > that were designed for short reach brakes, you can still reach the > rims with longer caliper brakes. Often a 700c->650b conversion will > need to use very long-reach brakes, which get pretty flexy and low on > stopping power. I knew there was a reason I scanned that... http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/archive01.html#603 - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." Mahatma Gandhi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
My Rambouillet was a "sneak in" purchase...so was the Atlantis come to think of it... I spent a couple of years working full time and going to business school (dang near killed me but that's a different story). After months of lusting over an orange Rambouillet I decided to purchase a 64cm frame. My wife, smart, observant woman that she is, tends to notice things, so I thought I should mention the purchase before the large box arrived on our doorstep. Me: "Honey...err...I bought myself a gradution present." Wife: "What did you get?" Me: "Guess!" Wife: "OH GOD...Not another bike!" True story :-) Angus On Jan 9, 4:24 pm, wrote: > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not just a > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which cost > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but you'd > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife felt > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in her > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie did > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told it, > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict bikes > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > Stan > Columbia, SC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Nitto Big Rear Rack
Hello all, I am a newbie to the site. I just received my above rack. It looks wonderful and solid. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had the same issue I am having. The top of the rear SKS fender, which I bought here, hits the bottom of the rack. It is on the upper eyelet, and it is all level, but it still hits just a bit to much. I would like to raise the fender just a bit to get better tire clearence. I was wondering if they (or anyone) makes an adapter or something to actually raise the rear rack vertically. I could alway rigs something from a custom piece of SS, but I would like to use what was made for this if at all. I appreciate any advise and comments on this. Happy New Year to all. Mok --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > > When we were in Carlsbad last Sunday didn't someone mention Grant talking > about "yet" another wheel size, 600 something-ish? Grant wrote in a Reader a couple of years back about creating a 603mm BSD rim size designed mostly to allow 700c racing bikes to take a fatter tire. The idea is that you gain some clearance, but for frames that were designed for short reach brakes, you can still reach the rims with longer caliper brakes. Often a 700c->650b conversion will need to use very long-reach brakes, which get pretty flexy and low on stopping power. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes
When we were in Carlsbad last Sunday didn't someone mention Grant talking about "yet" another wheel size, 600 something-ish? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of colin p. cummings Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:07 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes I'd like to drop the wheel size from the stock 630, but 622 is still a little large and the 584 is a little small, no sweet spots in between. Is there a wheel size around 600mm? Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Mike wrote: > > > >I'm not sure where I read it, but supposedly you could take a fully > inflated bike tire into outer space and it wouldn't explode. > > I nominate David Estes to try this. He could take as 700c and 650b > > > Think about it guys – you've only got 1 atmosphere of pressure at sea > level. Look at your tire gauge & you'll see it goes to probably 10 > atmospheres. You actually inflate to 5 to maybe 8 atmospheres (if you > really like a rough ride). Pump your tire to 5 atm (roughly 75 psi) & take > it into space. You've only reduced the exterior support by 1 atm or the > difference between pumping to 5 atm & 6 atm (roughly 90 psi). > > Maybe we should still send David into space, just to be sure! > > dougP > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~ > > I hear the next shuttle will use Steampunk engineering and lugged steel... -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
That's generosity...! On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Doug Peterson wrote: > If things get really tight, you can store it in an undisclosed location > in Orange County. I'll even pickup in San Diego, & give you a claim check. > > > -- > > *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *David Estes > *Sent:* Friday, January 09, 2009 12:30 PM > *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam > > > > I like your style... > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Esteban wrote: > > > Maybe you can just keep it at work - I have one of those! Out of > sight, out of (her) mind. Or maybe you could build a secret panel in > your house like where Han & Co. hid in the Millennium Falcon? > > > On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > > the time... > > > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a > good > > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, > and > > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw > the > > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had > an > > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that > this is > > > > > your > > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in > partiuclar is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage > space. I'm > > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer > Centerpull > > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle > Bars, > > > > > bar > > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional > matching > > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders > with > > > > > matching > > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, > but I > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs > front and > > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries > regular > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack > with > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus > shipping. > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange > (not > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- > Hide > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > David > > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
you gotta' play to the room... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Esteban wrote: > > Very inspirational story! David, you're so right. So, I took a 60 > mile ride today on the Romulus, and stopped in a bike shop to look > around and take a break. An employee said, "Nice bike - how old is > it?" Instead of saying "2003," I should have said, "Thrift store > find." That would help with my working-class upbringing hang-up about > appearing to spend a lot of money on something like a bicycle. > > On Jan 9, 4:37 pm, "David Estes" wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > > > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased > friends > > > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > > > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not > just > > > a > > > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, > a > > > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which > cost > > > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but > you'd > > > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > > > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife > > > felt > > > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters > in > > > her > > > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie > did > > > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told > it, > > > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict > bikes > > > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > > > > Stan > > > Columbia, SC > > > > > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
If things get really tight, you can store it in an undisclosed location in Orange County. I'll even pickup in San Diego, & give you a claim check. _ From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Estes Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 12:30 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam I like your style... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Esteban wrote: Maybe you can just keep it at work - I have one of those! Out of sight, out of (her) mind. Or maybe you could build a secret panel in your house like where Han & Co. hid in the Millennium Falcon? On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > the time... > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > > > > your > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is > > > > a > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > > > > bar > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > > > > matching > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > > > > have a > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > > > > This > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > > > > quite > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Mike wrote: >I'm not sure where I read it, but supposedly you could take a fully inflated bike tire into outer space and it wouldn't explode. I nominate David Estes to try this. He could take as 700c and 650b Think about it guys - you've only got 1 atmosphere of pressure at sea level. Look at your tire gauge & you'll see it goes to probably 10 atmospheres. You actually inflate to 5 to maybe 8 atmospheres (if you really like a rough ride). Pump your tire to 5 atm (roughly 75 psi) & take it into space. You've only reduced the exterior support by 1 atm or the difference between pumping to 5 atm & 6 atm (roughly 90 psi). Maybe we should still send David into space, just to be sure! dougP --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Tires, Tires, Tires
Both sets of tires have been sold. Thanks, everyone, for the interest! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
Very inspirational story! David, you're so right. So, I took a 60 mile ride today on the Romulus, and stopped in a bike shop to look around and take a break. An employee said, "Nice bike - how old is it?" Instead of saying "2003," I should have said, "Thrift store find." That would help with my working-class upbringing hang-up about appearing to spend a lot of money on something like a bicycle. On Jan 9, 4:37 pm, "David Estes" wrote: > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not just > > a > > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which cost > > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but you'd > > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife > > felt > > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in > > her > > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie did > > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told it, > > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict bikes > > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > > Stan > > Columbia, SC > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > > Excellent story! > > And it inspires me to add this bit of advice: Remember, these are > "retro-styled," "vintage appearing" bikes... so, just go along w/ the belief > that they're all 25 years old and came from the thrift store! > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
Atmospheric pressure is only 14.7 PSI at sea level. I'm sure most tires can handle that much extra. Bill On Jan 9, 10:12 am, Mike wrote: > >I'm not sure where I read it, but supposedly you could take a fully > > inflated bike tire into outer space and it wouldn't explode. > > I nominate David Estes to try this. He could take as 700c and 650b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes
AASHTA - http://sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html Per Sheldon, 26 x 1 3/8 (E.A.3) three speed size = 650a = 590 mm. Harris Cyclery shows Sun CR18 and some Weinmann rims in stock in 650a. The Col del la Vie is available in 650a, and Schwalbe makes several 590 tires in cluding one in creme. Rims: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html Tires: http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/rims/590.html http://www.schwalbetires.com/product_search?op0=OR&filter0%5B%5D=590-20&filter0%5B%5D=590-25&filter0%5B%5D=590-28%2F32&filter0%5B%5D=590-37&filter0%5B%5D=609-40 Grant at some point proposed a new size half way between 650b and 700c (603?), but it's nothing more than an idea AFAIK. Schwalbe has one tire in 609 mm - I have no idea what that fits! Bill On Jan 9, 1:06 pm, "colin p. cummings" wrote: > It's a money thing, but it would be painful. I'm trying to find a way > to keep one, which is preferable. > > Thanks for all the info everyone. Besides my 59 Bleriot and unbuilt > 58 Saluki, I have a 74(ish) repainted Raleigh International. the > raliegh is okay, I'd like to drop the wheel size from the stock 630, > but 622 is still a little large and the 584 is a little small, no > sweet spots in between. Is there a wheel size around 600mm? > > Colin Cummings > Amarillo, TX > > On Jan 8, 6:19 pm, Brewster Fong wrote: > > > > > On Jan 8, 3:03 pm, "colin p. cummings" > > wrote:> Contemplating selling my two Rivs and wondering, if I did, what > > would > > > be a good replacement? Think used, older, lugged, similar geometries, > > > touring. Thanks for the help. Stuff for sale to follow soon. > > > Why would you get rid of two riv bikes and replace it with something > > older? I agree with others that you can always find a nice sport- > > touring style bike, i.e., older Trek/Japanese bike, but if you got a > > Riv, I say try to figure out how to keep at least one! Good Luck! > > Brewster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] WTB- Keven's Bag
Anyone have a Keven's bag seat bag (or similar) they're wanting to get rid of? I put a Brook's saddle on my Salsa cross bike and the old bag won't fit (and wouldn't look right anyway!). I have a sweet Velo- Orange croissant bag on my Riv that is just a big too big for the Salsa... Thanks, Chris --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 2:24 PM, wrote: > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... > > A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends > amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest > aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not just > a > handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a > Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which cost > around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but you'd > never know it until he opened his garage door. > > At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife > felt > about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in > her > garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie did > not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told it, > to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict bikes > was twenty five hundred bucks! > > Stan > Columbia, SC > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ > > Excellent story! And it inspires me to add this bit of advice: Remember, these are "retro-styled," "vintage appearing" bikes... so, just go along w/ the belief that they're all 25 years old and came from the thrift store! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... Speaking of sneaking in a few bikes... A number of years ago several of us were admiring a now deceased friends amazing collection of vintage motorcycles, and in particular his latest aquisition at the time, an Ariel Square Four. Mind you, this was not just a handful of old Triumphs, Beezers and Nortons, but included a Matchless, a Norton Manx with a documented racing history and now the Ariel, which cost around twenty five large. Obviously Ed was a man of some means, but you'd never know it until he opened his garage door. At one point The Wise One, (that's a long story), asked Ed how his wife felt about having roughly a quarter of a million dollars worth of scooters in her garage. Poor Ed near got whiplish looking around to ensure that Margie did not hear that question while admonishing TWO to pipe down. As he told it, to her knowledge the most he ever paid for one of those old derelict bikes was twenty five hundred bucks! Stan Columbia, SC --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
yeah, it's easy to talk...until you have to explain it! On Jan 9, 12:30 pm, "David Estes" wrote: > I like your style... > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Esteban wrote: > > > Maybe you can just keep it at work - I have one of those! Out of > > sight, out of (her) mind. Or maybe you could build a secret panel in > > your house like where Han & Co. hid in the Millennium Falcon? > > > On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > > > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > > > the time... > > > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a > > good > > > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, > > and > > > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw > > the > > > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had > > an > > > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that > > this is > > > > > > your > > > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in > > partiuclar is > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage > > space. I'm > > > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer > > Centerpull > > > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle > > Bars, > > > > > > bar > > > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional > > matching > > > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders > > with > > > > > > matching > > > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, > > but I > > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs > > front and > > > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries > > regular > > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack > > with > > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus > > shipping. > > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange > > (not > > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- > > Hide > > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > David > > > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Rivlike Bikes
It's a money thing, but it would be painful. I'm trying to find a way to keep one, which is preferable. Thanks for all the info everyone. Besides my 59 Bleriot and unbuilt 58 Saluki, I have a 74(ish) repainted Raleigh International. the raliegh is okay, I'd like to drop the wheel size from the stock 630, but 622 is still a little large and the 584 is a little small, no sweet spots in between. Is there a wheel size around 600mm? Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX On Jan 8, 6:19 pm, Brewster Fong wrote: > On Jan 8, 3:03 pm, "colin p. cummings" > wrote:> Contemplating selling my two Rivs and wondering, if I did, what would > > be a good replacement? Think used, older, lugged, similar geometries, > > touring. Thanks for the help. Stuff for sale to follow soon. > > Why would you get rid of two riv bikes and replace it with something > older? I agree with others that you can always find a nice sport- > touring style bike, i.e., older Trek/Japanese bike, but if you got a > Riv, I say try to figure out how to keep at least one! Good Luck! > Brewster --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
I like your style... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Esteban wrote: > > Maybe you can just keep it at work - I have one of those! Out of > sight, out of (her) mind. Or maybe you could build a secret panel in > your house like where Han & Co. hid in the Millennium Falcon? > > On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > > the time... > > > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a > good > > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, > and > > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw > the > > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had > an > > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that > this is > > > > > your > > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in > partiuclar is > > > > > a > > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage > space. I'm > > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer > Centerpull > > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle > Bars, > > > > > bar > > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional > matching > > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders > with > > > > > matching > > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, > but I > > > > > have a > > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs > front and > > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries > regular > > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack > with > > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus > shipping. > > > > > This > > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange > (not > > > > > quite > > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- > Hide > > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > -- > > > > Cheers, > > > > David > > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Mike wrote: > > >I'm not sure where I read it, but supposedly you could take a fully > inflated bike tire into outer space and it wouldn't explode. > > I nominate David Estes to try this. He could take as 700c and 650b > -~--~~~~--~~--~--~--- > > Well, I'm sure someone has to do it... might as well be me! -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Hillborn v. Tournado
>I'm not sure where I read it, but supposedly you could take a fully inflated bike tire into outer space and it wouldn't explode. I nominate David Estes to try this. He could take as 700c and 650b --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: looking for a Romulus headbadge (or a buyer for frame/fork?)
Oops, not cosmic at all. Wrong Bill Rhea. But I do know a Bill Rhea with a Rivendell. Small world. But it is strange that your Rom broke in the same place as my Ram. Good luck with the bike. --mike --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
Maybe you can just keep it at work - I have one of those! Out of sight, out of (her) mind. Or maybe you could build a secret panel in your house like where Han & Co. hid in the Millennium Falcon? On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > the time... > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > > > > your > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar > > > > > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > > > > bar > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > > > > matching > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > > > > have a > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > > > > This > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > > > > quite > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
Jon, I will email you--I think it's a go for me if still available. On Jan 9, 9:32 am, Chris wrote: > especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of > the time... > > On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > > > > > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > > > > your > > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar > > > > > > > is > > > > a > > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > > > > brakes, > > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > > front/rear > > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > > > > bar > > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > > > > matching > > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > > > > have a > > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > > > > rear, > > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > > > > wheel > > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > > > > Nigel > > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > > > > This > > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > > > > quite > > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
especially since we use the garage for getting into the house 90% of the time... On Jan 9, 9:28 am, R Gonet wrote: > You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend > that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a > sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. > > On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > > > > > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > > > your > > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is > > > a > > > > > > gem! > > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > > > brakes, > > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > > front/rear > > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > > > bar > > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > > > matching > > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > > > have a > > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > > > rear, > > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > > > wheel > > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > > > Nigel > > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > > > This > > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > > > quite > > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > > > quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- > > Cheers, > > David > > Redlands, CA- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
You're not going to sneak an orange QB into your stable and pretend that it's an old bike that's always been there. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Trust me, I just tried it and got caught. On Jan 9, 11:24 am, "David Estes" wrote: > See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... > > > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > > your > > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is > > a > > > > > gem! > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > > brakes, > > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > > front/rear > > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > > bar > > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > > matching > > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > > have a > > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > > rear, > > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > > wheel > > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > > Nigel > > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > > This > > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > > quite > > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > > quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
See, you made the first mistake of "mentioning" it... On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Chris wrote: > > I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good > time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. > > On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is > your > > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is > a > > > > gem! > > > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull > brakes, > > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller > front/rear > > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, > bar > > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with > matching > > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I > have a > > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and > rear, > > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular > wheel > > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with > Nigel > > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. > This > > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not > quite > > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide > quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
You're a gutsy guy, Chris. :) --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Chris wrote: From: Chris Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:50 AM I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is your > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is a > > > gem! > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull brakes, > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller front/rear > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, bar > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with matching > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I have a > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and rear, > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular wheel > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with Nigel > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. This > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not quite > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Bleriot and Quickbeam
I mentioned the QB to my wife and got a flat out "this is NOT a good time for us to buy another bike!"...oh well, I tried. On Jan 8, 9:35 pm, Esteban wrote: > Dude, if I was a size 56, I would buy both bikes, quit my job, and > ride all day and night. What great bikes, seriously! > > On Jan 8, 9:24 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > > > You have no idea how tempted I am (as Jon knows!). > > > On Jan 8, 9:23 pm, Esteban wrote: > > > > Good luck - both great bikes. I have to admit, when I saw the > > > Hillborne with paint, I took a glance at my Quickbeam and had an > > > impure thought about selling it. I'm not suggesting that this is your > > > motive, but your post just made me think about it. > > > > Someone your size is in for a treat! The Quickbeam in partiuclar is a > > > gem! > > > > On Jan 8, 1:00 pm, Jon Kaplan wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to "thin the herd" and clear out some garage space. I'm > > > > selling the following bicycles: > > > > > 57cm Rivendell Bleriot. Mint condition. Paul Racer Centerpull brakes, > > > > Front Velocity wheel with Shimano Dyno Hub, Busch & Mueller front/rear > > > > lighting system, Nitto Rear Rack, Brooks B17 Black, Noodle Bars, bar > > > > end shifters, Rear Deore XT, 48-38-28 cranks, optional matching > > > > Carradice Black Boxy Back with Nitto Rack, Honjo fenders with matching > > > > pinstripe. Tires are Col De La Vie. It's a gorgeous bike, but I have a > > > > Rambo and a LHT. $1500 plus shipping. > > > > > 56cm Orange Quickbeam with Noodle Bars, Phil Wood hubs front and rear, > > > > White Industries Trials freewheel and white industries regular wheel > > > > on the flip side, Tubus rear rack, Nitto front little rack with Nigel > > > > Symthe little loafer. Honey B17 Saddle, $1250. plus shipping. This > > > > bike has a few nicks that have been touched up with orange (not quite > > > > matching paint), but no dents or significant scratches.- Hide quoted > > > > text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
