[RBW] Re: 650B dead or alive?
Scary! :) I wonder what the builders think/know? Ryan On May 11, 10:33 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: > The discussion about the new Pacenti 650B tires momentarily ventured > into commentary on "the future of 650B". I thought this was worth a > discussion of its own. > > Two or three years ago we had 650B bikes at Hiawatha Cyclery from at > least three manufacturers: Rivendell, Kogswell, and Rawland. Now > Rivendell does 650B only on smaller sizes of certain models, Kogswell > seems to be on an indefinite hiatus, and Rawland's new models have > been displayed at various venues with 622 and 559 wheels (with disc > brakes, 650B will still be an option). > > To the extent that 650B has gone mainstream, it is by and large in the > 27.5" wheel size for mountain bikes. It seems like new disc-specific > rim and fat-knobby tire options are proliferating, but the 650B rim > and tire options for road bikes have not expanded much, if at all, > since I first read about 650B in the Rivendell Reader. There are some > small importers/manufacturers like Jan Heine with the Gran Bois and > now Pacenti with his Pari-Moto, but they have yet to get their tires > into the QBP catalog or on any Treks. I was pleasantly surprised to > see another of my mainstream distributors pick up some 650B stuff, but > again, it was mostly of the MTB variety. > > I'm not sure Rivendell and a few custom framebuilders can sell enough > 650B bikes to support much expansion, or even maintain current levels > of the 650B rim/tire selection and availability. Unless the 650B size > gets picked up by Trek or some other major player, I think its future > will be at best as a niche item with limited selection and spotty > availability. I'd encourage 650B bike owners and aficionados to > stockpile an extra set of rims and a couple sets of favorite tires, > just in case. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650B dead or alive?
The discussion about the new Pacenti 650B tires momentarily ventured into commentary on "the future of 650B". I thought this was worth a discussion of its own. Two or three years ago we had 650B bikes at Hiawatha Cyclery from at least three manufacturers: Rivendell, Kogswell, and Rawland. Now Rivendell does 650B only on smaller sizes of certain models, Kogswell seems to be on an indefinite hiatus, and Rawland's new models have been displayed at various venues with 622 and 559 wheels (with disc brakes, 650B will still be an option). To the extent that 650B has gone mainstream, it is by and large in the 27.5" wheel size for mountain bikes. It seems like new disc-specific rim and fat-knobby tire options are proliferating, but the 650B rim and tire options for road bikes have not expanded much, if at all, since I first read about 650B in the Rivendell Reader. There are some small importers/manufacturers like Jan Heine with the Gran Bois and now Pacenti with his Pari-Moto, but they have yet to get their tires into the QBP catalog or on any Treks. I was pleasantly surprised to see another of my mainstream distributors pick up some 650B stuff, but again, it was mostly of the MTB variety. I'm not sure Rivendell and a few custom framebuilders can sell enough 650B bikes to support much expansion, or even maintain current levels of the 650B rim/tire selection and availability. Unless the 650B size gets picked up by Trek or some other major player, I think its future will be at best as a niche item with limited selection and spotty availability. I'd encourage 650B bike owners and aficionados to stockpile an extra set of rims and a couple sets of favorite tires, just in case. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Lisa, Aside from Ray being right as usual about his explanations, I think you made an excellent choice by going with the Nitto Big Front Rack. If you have to use P-clamps, then I'd say that just for looks and versatility, this one is the winner hands down. My Bombadil has all the braze-ons, it just seems that the Nitto Front Rack wasn't designed either with these brakes in mind, or with the braze-on position or something else I haven't quite figured out yet. For me the choice really comes down to trying to fit the Nitto rack with the P-clamps and leaving it permanently on so I can use a basket/Sackville combo but not my Acorn Rando Bag or going with the Nova as an add-on to the Nitto Mini Front Rack that allows me to both use the basket or the Rando Bag without any hassle. So far, despite how much I like the Nitto Big Front rack, I'm starting to lean more towards the Nova/Nitto Mini combo as the more versatile option. René On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Ray Shine wrote: > Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse > onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from > falling forward or rearward. If the bottom of the rack is attached to > eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid > structure. > > Sent From My iPhone > > On May 11, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Lisa wrote: > > Hi -- this is my first post to this group. I am in the process of > purchasing an Atlantis for touring and I've been watching this thread > with interest, because my Atlantis frame doesn't have mid-fork rack > eyelets. > > I've going to use the Nitto Big Front Rack instead of the Tubus Nova > because of concerns about using clamps on the Nova. The Tubus > lowrider racks all have a pivot where the horizontal bar that holds > your panniers attaches to the arc that goes over the front of the > wheel. So it seems to me that, if the other end of the pannier bar is > only clamped to the fork, the clamp may tend to slide down toward the > axle. > > I'm not the only one worried about this, see for instance this image: > http://images.erck.org/Site/Gear_AtlantisRack307X230.jpg > > Lisa > > On May 11, 5:33 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I found this photo... > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3868497649/in/set-721576224... > > Seems like the perfect solution! > > René > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
My hat went in late to this ring as well, and I'm looking forward to seeing the tan sidewall 38s on my Hilsen. I have great hope they'll fit well under the fenders, where Hetres just wouldn't. Last summer, when I built the bike, I was riding the 32mm Cypres and was happy. As weather and ground conditions faltered (Chicago), I got CdlV and measured 36mm. I really liked the ride, running about 50psi give or take a few puffs, over all sorts of fun stuff (snow, mud, weird Prairie Path mud (limestone), who knows what else). Now with the impending bloom of these ~38mm tires, I can hardly wait, but I'm fine waiting. More than anything I'm very glad Mr Pacenti took the initiative to spearhead this, and I'm so very grateful to all who participated. On May 11, 10:07 pm, Bruce wrote: > But you've got the good looking version! > > > From: Bill M. > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:55:11 PM > Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > I also have a pair pre-ordered. What I'm a touch bummed about is that > according to posts on the 650b list the tan wall version (which I > ordered) has a lower thread-count casing than the black wall version. > Apparently the black wall was needed to protect the lighter casing > cords. Nobody yet seems to know if the two versions will differ in > performance, and it would be an expensive test to buy a pair of each > and find out for myself. So, I'm hoping for the best. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Singlespeed #300 - Ron Hampel's Quickbeam
Ha, Patrick, you're right about freewheels. Those shots were taken on the bike's maiden voyage. And since I'd never ridden fixed before, it was on the freewheel side of the wheel for the first few rides. These days, the 'beam is running fixed about 80% of the time and I'm loving it! Thanks to all for the kind words. The bike is a joy to ride and not a bad looker either. Ron On May 10, 3:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I opened the link, was delighted with the bike's looks, thought it just the > sort of bike I'd like to own (except no damned freewheels; jeesh!) and > thought, "Now there's a builder who can give Riv a run for the money; and > only afterward, reading the text, found out it is a Riv. Shows that my taste > is well formed, no? > > Very nice. The handlebars are where they should be (he stated > categorically). > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:51 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > > > > > > > Start your monday with some stunning steel - > > >http://cyclofiend.com/ssg/2010/ssg300-ronhampel0510.htm > > > -- > > Jim Edgar > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > e...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com > (505) 227-0523 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
But you've got the good looking version! From: Bill M. To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 9:55:11 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? I also have a pair pre-ordered. What I'm a touch bummed about is that according to posts on the 650b list the tan wall version (which I ordered) has a lower thread-count casing than the black wall version. Apparently the black wall was needed to protect the lighter casing cords. Nobody yet seems to know if the two versions will differ in performance, and it would be an expensive test to buy a pair of each and find out for myself. So, I'm hoping for the best. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
I also have a pair pre-ordered. What I'm a touch bummed about is that according to posts on the 650b list the tan wall version (which I ordered) has a lower thread-count casing than the black wall version. Apparently the black wall was needed to protect the lighter casing cords. Nobody yet seems to know if the two versions will differ in performance, and it would be an expensive test to buy a pair of each and find out for myself. So, I'm hoping for the best. Bill On May 11, 3:46 pm, William wrote: > I realize that I had a small part in financing the pari-moto project > by preordering, and I'm happy to support Kirk. That's why I pre- > ordered my pair. It's just kind of a burn that I can buy a pair today > from VO, and actually pay 50 cents less for shipping, and probably get > them sooner. I'll certainly get over it. I'm super excited about the > tires. > > On May 11, 3:37 pm, rswat...@me.com wrote: > > > > > > > Pre-orders were to make sure the project could happen in the first > > place, not to get a better deal. > > I pre-ordered three pair myself! > > > Ryan > > > On May 11, 2010, at 15:31, William wrote: > > > > It's kind of a burn that anybody can get them retail for the same > > > price that we paid when we pre-ordered them ($118 a pair/pari). Kirk > > > could have asked VO to sell them for $64 for a while, just to make us > > > feel a little bit better. Oh well, I shouldn't gripe. Kirk seems > > > like a good guy, and he's trying awfully hard. > > > > On May 11, 1:18 pm, Bruce wrote: > > >> If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever > > >> show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell > > >> you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship > > >> following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? > > >> hmmm :) > > > >> > > >> From: Liesl > > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > > >> Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM > > >> Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > > >> Anyone out there tried 'em? > > > >>http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html > > > >> -- > > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > >> . > > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > >> . > > >> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ > > >> rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > > . > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
> Riv is still selling 650B bikes and tires, and tires are also available at a > number of other places. it's a niche for sure, but a live one. True enough. But I hope to have be riding my forthcoming 650B at least another 20 years. I seem to recall reading something by Grant where he said Riv will close when he retires. With luck Grant has another 20 good years in him. On May 11, 9:06 pm, Bruce wrote: > Riv is still selling 650B bikes and tires, and tires are also available at a > number of other places. it's a niche for sure, but a live one. > > > From: JoelMatthews > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 8:53:59 PM > Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > > or it's dead in the market and we don't know it yet in our little corner. > > Well, I hope this is not the case. In the event it is, I am > prepared. I have two sets of Hetres, two sets of Pari Motos on the > way and even a spare set of 650B rims. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Like-new Quickbeam Wheelset - $150
I'm looking to sell the stock wheels that came with my Quickbeam last May. They were ridden maybe 20 miles before I switched on my custom wheels. There is almost no brake marking on the rim, and they are in fantastic condition -- just been collecting dust for a year. The wheels consist of: Suzue high-flange (quick-release skewer) hubs and a 32H Mavic Open Sport Rim. The rear wheel has an 18t Shimano freewheel installed on it, and the threading on the 120mm rear hub is free/free. I'm asking for $150 plus 25 s/h. I can provide pictures by request. Please reply off-list to my email and thanks for your interest! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Riv is still selling 650B bikes and tires, and tires are also available at a number of other places. it's a niche for sure, but a live one. From: JoelMatthews To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 8:53:59 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > or it's dead in the market and we don't know it yet in our little corner. Well, I hope this is not the case. In the event it is, I am prepared. I have two sets of Hetres, two sets of Pari Motos on the way and even a spare set of 650B rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
> or it's dead in the market and we don't know it yet in our little corner. Well, I hope this is not the case. In the event it is, I am prepared. I have two sets of Hetres, two sets of Pari Motos on the way and even a spare set of 650B rims. On May 11, 6:54 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > On May 11, 2010, at 5:51 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > Kirk really went through a lot to get the tires made. I am somewhat > > glad VO carries them, as it may help ensure the tires stay available > > for a while. Perhaps even encourage others to design and shepherd new > > 650B concepts to market. > > Well, the "flush" of 650B stuff seems to be pretty much over. Either > that means it's been integrated into the market or it's dead in the > market and we don't know it yet in our little corner. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SoCal River Ride?
I hope to be there. Probably going to take Gold LIne in from Pasadena. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Jim M. wrote: > Looks like a good route. No problems with bullmoose or any other non- > drop bar if you're comfortable with them. Tony (on this list) recently > rode the very hilly Grizzly Peak Century on his albatrossed > Hillborne. > > enjoy the ride, > jim m > wc ca > > On May 11, 10:12 am, andrew hill wrote: > > anyone Rivendell-borne going to be doing the LA River Ride? > > > > i'm going to register for the Century later today - it'll be my first > one. :) > > > > think i'm going to use the Sam Hillborne for that... anyone think doing a > century on bullmoose bars could be problematic? > > > > http://la-bike.org/events/los_angeles_river_ride.html > > > > cheers, > > andrew > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Marty wrote: > Ahh - the beauty of Reader .pdfs - Thanks Joe! From RR26, here are the > Bullseye Woodys: > Good barefoot pedals. And it looks like you could replace the platform with prit' near anything if need be. Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
They are supposed to be very fast, very comfortable and very good handling. They are called "event tires" as in, you would race with them. I suppose that means roofing tacks should be avoided From: Rob Harrison To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 6:59:47 PM Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? On May 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: > Well, the "flush" of 650B stuff seems to be pretty much over. Hope not, having just purchased a 650b Saluki! "What would these Pari-Motos have to recommend them over Cypres or Hetres?" asks a newcomer to the fold. Maybe easier fit with fenders on the Saluki? Something like a 38mm version of Hetres? Rob in Seattle --You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
I could add one more step, likely of no pertinence here, except that the back-story is entertaining. One day I was at the shop early, and this college hipster kid comes in with some dumpster-find Peugeot converted to fixed gear. He had some kind of fancy track crank and BB for it. Of course, the BB was not appropriate for a French bike, but I just happened to have a Phil BB and French rings. Off with the old cranks, and I install the Phil BB and new crank. He rides around the block, and comes back reporting a click/creak noise. I tighten the chainring and crank bolts, I try different pedals, I remove and reinstall everything, etc, etc. Nothing stops the creak. So I'm out of ideas, and my mechanic Mongo walks in. Mongo is no fan of French anything, especially French bikes. I describe the problem and he casts a dirty look at the bike and says "oil the lugs." A little Tri-flow around the edges of the BB lug, and, miracle of miracles, the creaky old Peugeot doesn't creak anymore! On May 11, 12:06 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > In my experience, usually a BB/crank clicking sound is due to one of > the many interfaces between a steel and aluminum surfaces down > there. Here is what I do when my BB/crank starts to make a clicking > sound, based on likelihood of source: > > 1) Make sure crank bolts are tight > 2) Make sure chainring/spider bolts are tight > 3) Make sure pedals are tight in the cranks > > If that doesn't do it, then: > > 2) Take out the BB, put lots of grease on the BB threads and cup > threads, and interface between outer bearing race and BB cups. Re- > install BB cups, and torque down nice and snug > > If that doesn't do it, then: > > 4) Take off drive-side crank and disassemble the rings. Grease > interfaces between steel bolts and aluminum surfaces. Re-assemble > and make sure every bolt is tight. > 5) Make sure crank-bolt threads are greased > 6) Make sure pedal axle threads/pedal boss threads are greased > > If that doesn't work, the bearings of the BB may need to be re- > packed. You don't want to put grease on the spindle taper- although > that is a debated issue among some folks, most manufacturers recommend > against it, so I tend to follow that. Just make sure the crank bolts > are tight, and the creak won't be from the spindle taper/crank arm > interface. > > Anyway, good luck finding the solution. It can drive you nuts trying > to stop a creak sometimes, but just be patient and you'll fix it! > > On May 11, 11:40 am, GeorgeS wrote: > > > > > > > I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which > > cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately > > starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the > > clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking > > stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the > > bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. > > The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks > > with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is > > a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the > > spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to > > be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not > > square? > > Perplexed. > > GeorgeS > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Tucker, A Dirt Drop stem is pretty tall (altitude) and pretty short (extension). M-bars want a stem 2-3cm shorter than the same bike with drop bars. If the bigger frame most likely requires a short stem for you, you might find it hard to get m-bars close enough. Me personally, I would never buy a frame that would require a stem shorter than 8-9cm extension with drop bars. There are several tall Nitto stems, Technomic Deluxe, Technomic, Dirt Drop. I can't imagine that you wouldn't be able to get the bars high enough using one of them. RBW designs fit small, due to the low BB, but if you are on a bike that is the right size (a lot of folks come to RBW having been riding bikes several sizes too small), I think your RBW fit is going to be good on a bike that size or maybe 1 size up. Doug On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:22 AM, tucker wrote: > Thanks everyone, > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > top tube is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Thanks James. Given what I throw away on cycling stuff in general, 50 cents is chump change and I don't feel the least bit upset if it helped Kirk make this happen. More options are a good thing in my world. On May 11, 6:06 pm, james black wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 15:46, William wrote: > > I realize that I had a small part in financing the pari-moto project > > by preordering, and I'm happy to support Kirk. That's why I pre- > > ordered my pair. It's just kind of a burn that I can buy a pair today > > from VO, and actually pay 50 cents less for shipping, and probably get > > them sooner. I'll certainly get over it. I'm super excited about the > > tires. > > On behalf of those of us who did not preorder the Pari-Moto but might > want to buy a pair one day, I offer my thanks and appreciation to > those of you who did preorder them. You may have lost 50 cents, but > you have done a good deed. > > James Black > Los Angeles, CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
Ahh - the beauty of Reader .pdfs - Thanks Joe! From RR26, here are the Bullseye Woodys: http://tinyurl.com/2e7p9xn Might have to cobble up a pair myself. On May 11, 7:20 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > I have the "sneaker pedals" on a recumbent, and GKs on a Dahon. > They're both the bee's knees. The long platform of the GKs works great > even on my itty bitty feet. The Bullseye "wood" pedals were in an > early RR. I'd love to find a pair. > > On May 11, 1:09 pm, LF wrote: > > > > > > > On May 11, 6:48 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:> texan sean > > says: > > > I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks > > > under > > > my feet. > > > > 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. > > > And, I add my two cents: GKs are the greatest! Put a pair on a > > 1980s red Pinarello for club rides. I took a little cordial ribbing > > again about "riding in the Larry zone." Probably the red Converse > > high-tops were to blame. (Meanwhile, other's boutique wheels are > > clicking and popping spokes & one CF frame was proclaimed unridable > > because sand thrown up from the tires abraded the frame.) I am > > planning on getting another pair of GKs for my Riv. I went from > > platforms, to clips & straps, to Look, to double sided SPD, to clips & > > straps, to platform. Am very glad to be back. > > > Best, > > Larry "converts are more zealous than true believers" Fieman > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
On May 11, 2010, at 4:54 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Well, the "flush" of 650B stuff seems to be pretty much over. Hope not, having just purchased a 650b Saluki! "What would these Pari-Motos have to recommend them over Cypres or Hetres?" asks a newcomer to the fold. Maybe easier fit with fenders on the Saluki? Something like a 38mm version of Hetres? Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
On May 11, 2010, at 5:51 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: Kirk really went through a lot to get the tires made. I am somewhat glad VO carries them, as it may help ensure the tires stay available for a while. Perhaps even encourage others to design and shepherd new 650B concepts to market. Well, the "flush" of 650B stuff seems to be pretty much over. Either that means it's been integrated into the market or it's dead in the market and we don't know it yet in our little corner. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
On May 11, 2010, at 10:40 AM, GeorgeS wrote: I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not square? This is sometimes the BB cups moving in the threads of the frame, the predominant BB designs really not being very good. It only takes 1/1000 of an inch movement to make noise- you'd not be able to see or feel the play involved. Sometimes it's the crank moving on the BB. Proper square taper installation procedures seem to be not particularly well known, for some reason. The Park Tool web instructions, for example, are not correct (and, being the Park Tool web site, they are given the relative weight of the Gospels). Not greasing the taper is a contributor to the problem because the lack of lubrication interferes with getting the crank properly seated and tight. Any metal-to-metal interface where torquing down a bolt is involved requires lubrication to reliably get the right torque. I lightly seat the crank on the spindle with a rubber mallet before using the retaining bolt to finish the job, although that is probably not necessary. A torque wrench is helpful, the proper torque being higher than many people expect (and lower than the hamfisted expect. Ahem. Don't ask how I know this...). One can readily learn to apply the proper torque with a standard crank bolt wrench or socket set, as long as you have a comparison. The retaining bolt will appear to loosen slightly with riding because the crank "walks" up the taper a little bit as you ride; this is normal and repeatedly tightening down the bolt can eventually split the crank. Just snug it down if necessary. You swapped the pedals and the noise remained, so you nicely eliminated the pedals as the cause. You checked the chainring bolt tightness, so you eliminated those as the source too. If swapping the crank (and not doing anything with the BB) eliminated the noise, then the problem was almost certainly the crank moving slightly on the BB axle. The odds are that the retaining bolt wasn't tight enough and that your installation of the new cranks solved this. As for whether the square hole can be out of square, it's unlikely but not impossible. The hole can be deformed by riding the crank "loose- ish" and become difficult to properly seat, but the 1/1000 of an inch movement that was probably happening would be unlikely to do this. And Sugino makes most of the Japanese cranks sold in the world (their own brands, plus at least 1/2 of Sun Tour's cranks in its heyday and many Shimano cranks) so they do know what they are doing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Thank you, James. I'm sure our names will be on little bronze plaques somewhere in the 650B Hall of Justice. Or maybe etched in a tile on the floor of the Great 584 Patio. Seriously, can't wait to get mine. Probelm is the Protovelo is up in Walnut Creek! It will be nice to see these tires mounted to a Riv. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On May 11, 4:06 pm, james black wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 15:46, William wrote: > > I realize that I had a small part in financing the pari-moto project > > by preordering, and I'm happy to support Kirk. That's why I pre- > > ordered my pair. It's just kind of a burn that I can buy a pair today > > from VO, and actually pay 50 cents less for shipping, and probably get > > them sooner. I'll certainly get over it. I'm super excited about the > > tires. > > On behalf of those of us who did not preorder the Pari-Moto but might > want to buy a pair one day, I offer my thanks and appreciation to > those of you who did preorder them. You may have lost 50 cents, but > you have done a good deed. > > James Black > Los Angeles, CA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
I have the "sneaker pedals" on a recumbent, and GKs on a Dahon. They're both the bee's knees. The long platform of the GKs works great even on my itty bitty feet. The Bullseye "wood" pedals were in an early RR. I'd love to find a pair. On May 11, 1:09 pm, LF wrote: > On May 11, 6:48 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:> texan sean > says: > > I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > > my feet. > > > 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. > > And, I add my two cents: GKs are the greatest! Put a pair on a > 1980s red Pinarello for club rides. I took a little cordial ribbing > again about "riding in the Larry zone." Probably the red Converse > high-tops were to blame. (Meanwhile, other's boutique wheels are > clicking and popping spokes & one CF frame was proclaimed unridable > because sand thrown up from the tires abraded the frame.) I am > planning on getting another pair of GKs for my Riv. I went from > platforms, to clips & straps, to Look, to double sided SPD, to clips & > straps, to platform. Am very glad to be back. > > Best, > Larry "converts are more zealous than true believers" Fieman > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
Hi all: After a year of riding in rain and snow, I wanted to lube the pedals. Rather than fight with the dust cap on the grip king, I drilled a very tiny (1/16"?) hole in one of the four indents in the cap, and then stuck my grease gun in it. I pushed clean grease through the pedal and wiped off the dirty grease that came out on the spindle side. It worked very well. I got the idea from an interview with Charlie Cunningham (sp?...forgive me if I spell his name wrong) which shows a port he built into a hub through which grease can be inserted with a grease gun. One thing that I have noticed is that a shoe with a bit of tread on it (like Rockports or boots) will grip better when the pedal is wet than do the Sambas. I normally wear a boot when I ride in the rain and Sambas on sunny days, so it works out well. They are nice pedals. Best to all, Jay Demarest, NJ On May 11, 4:09 pm, LF wrote: > On May 11, 6:48 pm, Grant Petersen wrote:> texan sean > says: > > I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > > my feet. > > > 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. > > And, I add my two cents: GKs are the greatest! Put a pair on a > 1980s red Pinarello for club rides. I took a little cordial ribbing > again about "riding in the Larry zone." Probably the red Converse > high-tops were to blame. (Meanwhile, other's boutique wheels are > clicking and popping spokes & one CF frame was proclaimed unridable > because sand thrown up from the tires abraded the frame.) I am > planning on getting another pair of GKs for my Riv. I went from > platforms, to clips & straps, to Look, to double sided SPD, to clips & > straps, to platform. Am very glad to be back. > > Best, > Larry "converts are more zealous than true believers" Fieman > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal River Ride?
Looks like a good route. No problems with bullmoose or any other non- drop bar if you're comfortable with them. Tony (on this list) recently rode the very hilly Grizzly Peak Century on his albatrossed Hillborne. enjoy the ride, jim m wc ca On May 11, 10:12 am, andrew hill wrote: > anyone Rivendell-borne going to be doing the LA River Ride? > > i'm going to register for the Century later today - it'll be my first one. :) > > think i'm going to use the Sam Hillborne for that... anyone think doing a > century on bullmoose bars could be problematic? > > http://la-bike.org/events/los_angeles_river_ride.html > > cheers, > andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 15:46, William wrote: > I realize that I had a small part in financing the pari-moto project > by preordering, and I'm happy to support Kirk. That's why I pre- > ordered my pair. It's just kind of a burn that I can buy a pair today > from VO, and actually pay 50 cents less for shipping, and probably get > them sooner. I'll certainly get over it. I'm super excited about the > tires. On behalf of those of us who did not preorder the Pari-Moto but might want to buy a pair one day, I offer my thanks and appreciation to those of you who did preorder them. You may have lost 50 cents, but you have done a good deed. James Black Los Angeles, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Lisa --- that isn't a concern because the rack is rigid and can't collapse onto itself. The only thong the p- clamp does is prevent the rack from falling forward or rearward. If the bottom of the rack is attached to eyelets, then the rack cannot slide down any further since it is a rigid structure. Sent From My iPhone On May 11, 2010, at 3:00 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi -- this is my first post to this group. I am in the process of purchasing an Atlantis for touring and I've been watching this thread with interest, because my Atlantis frame doesn't have mid-fork rack eyelets. I've going to use the Nitto Big Front Rack instead of the Tubus Nova because of concerns about using clamps on the Nova. The Tubus lowrider racks all have a pivot where the horizontal bar that holds your panniers attaches to the arc that goes over the front of the wheel. So it seems to me that, if the other end of the pannier bar is only clamped to the fork, the clamp may tend to slide down toward the axle. I'm not the only one worried about this, see for instance this image: http://images.erck.org/Site/Gear_AtlantisRack307X230.jpg Lisa On May 11, 5:33 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: I found this photo...http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3868497649/in/set-721576224... Seems like the perfect solution! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB 58cm QuickBeam..
I have one, orange, three years old, still have the original box, excelent shape, probably less then 500 miles. I was thinking $1050 shipping to be determined. On May 9, 1:53 pm, andrew hill wrote: > just sticking my "i want a quickbeam" post back in.. > > looking for a 58cm QB, and for some reason i'm not too enthralled > (emthralled?) by the green color, so would prefer some other color (silver? > or red!) .. i'd also be really into any frameset about the same size that i > could make a single speed, or if someone has built a Rivendell into a > single/fixie and wants to sell it, i'd be down for that :) > > cheers, > andrew (in Los Angeles). > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Hi -- this is my first post to this group. I am in the process of purchasing an Atlantis for touring and I've been watching this thread with interest, because my Atlantis frame doesn't have mid-fork rack eyelets. I've going to use the Nitto Big Front Rack instead of the Tubus Nova because of concerns about using clamps on the Nova. The Tubus lowrider racks all have a pivot where the horizontal bar that holds your panniers attaches to the arc that goes over the front of the wheel. So it seems to me that, if the other end of the pannier bar is only clamped to the fork, the clamp may tend to slide down toward the axle. I'm not the only one worried about this, see for instance this image: http://images.erck.org/Site/Gear_AtlantisRack307X230.jpg Lisa On May 11, 5:33 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I found this > photo...http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3868497649/in/set-721576224... > > Seems like the perfect solution! > > René > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
On May 11, 2:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > i never get posts (sent to myself) that i post to the list.. i have to go to > the google group page to check.. is there a way to change this setting? There's been some shifting of the process behind the google curtain, but you can change/manage settings by logging into google, then going to your groups and looking for the link "Manage My Memberships". That should let you set it up so that you receive emails. But, if you are receiving emails from everyone else, that may not be the issue. It might be a setting in your email program. I haven't found a setting to not see your own posts (I recall that is in iBob list software). If I find it, I'll post it in a new thread. - Jim / List admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
> I pre-ordered three pair myself! Have two pre-ordered and do not even have my 650B frame yet! Kirk really went through a lot to get the tires made. I am somewhat glad VO carries them, as it may help ensure the tires stay available for a while. Perhaps even encourage others to design and shepherd new 650B concepts to market. On May 11, 5:37 pm, rswat...@me.com wrote: > Pre-orders were to make sure the project could happen in the first > place, not to get a better deal. > I pre-ordered three pair myself! > > Ryan > > On May 11, 2010, at 15:31, William wrote: > > > > > > > It's kind of a burn that anybody can get them retail for the same > > price that we paid when we pre-ordered them ($118 a pair/pari). Kirk > > could have asked VO to sell them for $64 for a while, just to make us > > feel a little bit better. Oh well, I shouldn't gripe. Kirk seems > > like a good guy, and he's trying awfully hard. > > > On May 11, 1:18 pm, Bruce wrote: > >> If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever > >> show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell > >> you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship > >> following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? > >> hmmm :) > > >> > >> From: Liesl > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM > >> Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > >> Anyone out there tried 'em? > > >>http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ > >> rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
I realize that I had a small part in financing the pari-moto project by preordering, and I'm happy to support Kirk. That's why I pre- ordered my pair. It's just kind of a burn that I can buy a pair today from VO, and actually pay 50 cents less for shipping, and probably get them sooner. I'll certainly get over it. I'm super excited about the tires. On May 11, 3:37 pm, rswat...@me.com wrote: > Pre-orders were to make sure the project could happen in the first > place, not to get a better deal. > I pre-ordered three pair myself! > > Ryan > > On May 11, 2010, at 15:31, William wrote: > > > > > It's kind of a burn that anybody can get them retail for the same > > price that we paid when we pre-ordered them ($118 a pair/pari). Kirk > > could have asked VO to sell them for $64 for a while, just to make us > > feel a little bit better. Oh well, I shouldn't gripe. Kirk seems > > like a good guy, and he's trying awfully hard. > > > On May 11, 1:18 pm, Bruce wrote: > >> If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever > >> show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell > >> you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship > >> following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? > >> hmmm :) > > >> > >> From: Liesl > >> To: RBW Owners Bunch > >> Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM > >> Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > >> Anyone out there tried 'em? > > >>http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ > >> rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- > > bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Pre-orders were to make sure the project could happen in the first place, not to get a better deal. I pre-ordered three pair myself! Ryan On May 11, 2010, at 15:31, William wrote: It's kind of a burn that anybody can get them retail for the same price that we paid when we pre-ordered them ($118 a pair/pari). Kirk could have asked VO to sell them for $64 for a while, just to make us feel a little bit better. Oh well, I shouldn't gripe. Kirk seems like a good guy, and he's trying awfully hard. On May 11, 1:18 pm, Bruce wrote: If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? hmmm :) From: Liesl To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? Anyone out there tried 'em? http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/ rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
Ah ha! Somehow I missed that page and had only seen the RR hard copy page. I thought they only sold the CD's sporadically like their hard copies. I'm pretty amazed I missed that page considering I own about half the catalog. :) Time for an order... Thanks! J. On May 11, 2:36 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some > > point? > > Riv still sells the CDs: > > http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/riv-reader-pdfs-on-cds/24-127 > > On May 11, 1:49 pm, happyriding wrote: > > > So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some > > point? > > > Will my local library have them? :) > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Posting Repeating Posts
I always get my own posts, and often get multiple copies of others¹ posts. -- Jon ³Awash in Posts² Grant From: andrew hill Reply-To: Date: Tue, 11 May 2010 14:50:35 -0700 To: Subject: Re: [RBW] FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork i never get posts (sent to myself) that i post to the list.. i have to go to the google group page to check.. is there a way to change this setting? thanks, andrew On May 11, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Jim Van Orsdol wrote: > Seth/RBW List: > > If it has posted numerous times, I apologize for the repetition. I > have yet to receive the posting myself, so thought it to be spammed or > ? I sent a note to Jim and he couldn't find it in the queue so I kept > tryin' > > Sorry for the multiplication > > Jim > > > > > > > Jim, > Is it just my email or have you sent this like 4 times today? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
i never get posts (sent to myself) that i post to the list.. i have to go to the google group page to check.. is there a way to change this setting? thanks, andrew On May 11, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Jim Van Orsdol wrote: > Seth/RBW List: > > If it has posted numerous times, I apologize for the repetition. I > have yet to receive the posting myself, so thought it to be spammed or > ? I sent a note to Jim and he couldn't find it in the queue so I kept > tryin' > > Sorry for the multiplication > > Jim > > > > > > > Jim, > Is it just my email or have you sent this like 4 times today? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
Seth/RBW List: If it has posted numerous times, I apologize for the repetition. I have yet to receive the posting myself, so thought it to be spammed or ? I sent a note to Jim and he couldn't find it in the queue so I kept tryin' Sorry for the multiplication Jim Jim, Is it just my email or have you sent this like 4 times today? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Oh yeah - stem is 9cm. On May 11, 1:03 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, wile wrote: > > I have a PBH of 89 and ride a 63cm AHH. I was given the exact same > > option from Rivendell - either 61 or 63 would work. However, Rich > > advised me that with handlebars set up the same way (shorter stem on > > the 63), the 63 would handle better. I'm very happy with the 63. I > > have a small handful of seatpost showing - 3" or so, and with the stem > > sticking 2" out of the headset, both are level. The top of the seat > > and the crook of the stem are both about 6" above the top tube and the > > bike looks perfectly proportioned. I think if I raise the stem up to > > the max, it ends up about 2" above the top of the saddle. I ride 40c > > Schwalbe Marathons and ride the bike mostly for commuting. Keep in > > mind that when you stop and put a foot down at lights, etc. you have > > even more standover height because one foot is up on the pedal. > > Dylan, > if you wouldn't mind, just to humor me - measure from the tip of your > saddle to the middle of the flats on your handlebars. > > I'm curious what that distance is. > > thanks > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
I found this photo... http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/3868497649/in/set-72157622441887576/ Seems like the perfect solution! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Ha - no problem. It's sitting right in front of me - every week is bike to work week here :) Exactly 21.75 inches from the very tip of the saddle (B-17 Team Professional) to the center of the stem clamp. On May 11, 1:03 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, wile wrote: > > I have a PBH of 89 and ride a 63cm AHH. I was given the exact same > > option from Rivendell - either 61 or 63 would work. However, Rich > > advised me that with handlebars set up the same way (shorter stem on > > the 63), the 63 would handle better. I'm very happy with the 63. I > > have a small handful of seatpost showing - 3" or so, and with the stem > > sticking 2" out of the headset, both are level. The top of the seat > > and the crook of the stem are both about 6" above the top tube and the > > bike looks perfectly proportioned. I think if I raise the stem up to > > the max, it ends up about 2" above the top of the saddle. I ride 40c > > Schwalbe Marathons and ride the bike mostly for commuting. Keep in > > mind that when you stop and put a foot down at lights, etc. you have > > even more standover height because one foot is up on the pedal. > > Dylan, > if you wouldn't mind, just to humor me - measure from the tip of your > saddle to the middle of the flats on your handlebars. > > I'm curious what that distance is. > > thanks > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
It's kind of a burn that anybody can get them retail for the same price that we paid when we pre-ordered them ($118 a pair/pari). Kirk could have asked VO to sell them for $64 for a while, just to make us feel a little bit better. Oh well, I shouldn't gripe. Kirk seems like a good guy, and he's trying awfully hard. On May 11, 1:18 pm, Bruce wrote: > If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever show up, > they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell you how they ride. > Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship following the May. What other > bike company does that remind me of? hmmm :) > > > From: Liesl > To: RBW Owners Bunch > Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM > Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? > > Anyone out there tried 'em? > > http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Jim Van Orsdol wrote: > For sale is my 64cm Rambouillet, RBO576, bare (unpainted) frame and fork > which I purchased new from PJW in 2005. Probably ridden under 100 > miles before a neck injury relegated it to living room art. It has > been recently fitted with internal top tube routing for rear brake > cable and custom head tube cable stops by Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles. > > You may view the bike as originally built at cyclofiend's "current Classics" > #20 > > Dave Wages' stellar work may be viewed at Ellis Cycles dot com. > > Asking $1450 plus shipping costs. > > Please contact me at jim.van_orsdol at yahoo dot com for additional > information & hi-res images. > Jim, Is it just my email or have you sent this like 4 times today? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
For sale is my 64cm Rambouillet, RBO576, bare (unpainted) frame and fork which I purchased new from PJW in 2005. Probably ridden under 100 miles before a neck injury relegated it to living room art. It has been recently fitted with internal top tube routing for rear brake cable and custom head tube cable stops by Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles. You may view the bike as originally built at cyclofiend's "current Classics" #20 Dave Wages' stellar work may be viewed at Ellis Cycles dot com. Asking $1450 plus shipping costs. Please contact me at jim.van_orsdol at yahoo dot com for additional information & hi-res images. Thanks, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
I hadn't "discovered" the Nova... it would be a great solution. Ray is using the P-clamps to be able to use the Big Front Rack below the Neo-Retro brakes, and using the highest lower tab hole on the rack so it fits under the brakes. Not as clean looking, but certainly a viable option if it is to stay permanently on the bike. I'd still like to see the Nova mounted on a Riv frame, but it's looking more and more like the way for me to go. On the Big Front Rack I cannot mount my Acorn Rando bag, I also discovered. Baskets would not likely be a problem, but the bag would. Is there any significant carrying capacity between the Nova and the Nitto Big Front Rack? The Nova is rated to 30 pounds... René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fwd: FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
For sale is 64cm Rambouillet RBO576 bare (unpainted) frame and fork which was purchased new from PJW in 2005. Probably ridden under 100 miles before a neck injury relegated it to living room art. It has been recently fitted with internal top tube routing for rear brake cable and custom head tube cable stops by Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles. Here's the bike as originally built: http://tiny.cc/jaws6 This is Dave Wages: http://tiny.cc/g5fuy Asking $1450 plus shipping costs. Please contact me at jim.van_orsdol at yahoo dot com for additional information & hi-res images. Thanks, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?
On May 11, 3:15 pm, Erik C wrote: > > I have both a LHT and a Bleriot. With stock components the LHT is > obviously heavier when lifting it. My wife and I lived in a 3rd floor > apartment in Chicago for 2 years and I would carry the LHT because of > how much lighter my Bleriot was. My Bleriot isn't really a "light" > build either. Standard Riv build with 32H wheelset, racks, fenders, > etc. how much lighter? 2 pounds? i just don't see how there could be a significant weight difference between these two framesets. if you're talking 3 or more pounds lighter or something, it's gotta be in the components. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
If the pair I purchased last July (the pre-order thing) will ever show up, they'll go on my Riv Road 650B conversion and I'll tell you how they ride. Hmm, order from Bikelugs in July, they ship following the May. What other bike company does that remind me of? hmmm :) From: Liesl To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 12:40:33 PM Subject: [RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires? Anyone out there tried 'em? http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
On May 11, 6:48 pm, Grant Petersen wrote: > texan sean says: > I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > my feet. > > 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. > And, I add my two cents: GKs are the greatest! Put a pair on a 1980s red Pinarello for club rides. I took a little cordial ribbing again about "riding in the Larry zone." Probably the red Converse high-tops were to blame. (Meanwhile, other's boutique wheels are clicking and popping spokes & one CF frame was proclaimed unridable because sand thrown up from the tires abraded the frame.) I am planning on getting another pair of GKs for my Riv. I went from platforms, to clips & straps, to Look, to double sided SPD, to clips & straps, to platform. Am very glad to be back. Best, Larry "converts are more zealous than true believers" Fieman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
On May 11, 11:55 am, Bruce wrote: > That seems to happen around here with regularity. Not always, but often. My > Exustar race shoes/Look pedals have lain unused for a couple of years now > Agree. Years ago, I switched from Looks to Speedplay X2 and later to Frogs as I got tired of walking like duck. Now-a-days, my riding is very limited as I am only able to do a 10 mile commute : ( Fortunately, it has one big hill, so that helps. I use MKS Touring pedals with street shoes. However, on those rare occasions that I'm able to get out on a longer ride or just about any ride over 10 or so miles, I definitely prefer my Frogs. Actually, I still like Look pedals as those do have the biggest platform and are very comfortable. Just hate walking like a duck. Good Luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Fwd: FS: 64cm Rambouillet Frame & Fork
For sale is my 64cm Rambouillet RBO576 bare (unpainted) frame and fork which was purchased new from PJW in 2005. Probably ridden under 100 miles before a neck injury relegated it to living room art. It has been recently fitted with internal top tube routing for rear brake cable and custom head tube cable stops by Dave Wages at Ellis Cycles. Here's the bike as originally built: http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc020-jimvanorsdol0605.html This is Dave Wages: http://www.elliscycles.com/gallery.html Asking $1450 plus shipping costs. Please contact me at jim.van_orsdol at yahoo dot com for additional information & hi-res images. Thanks, Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 3:51 PM, wile wrote: > I have a PBH of 89 and ride a 63cm AHH. I was given the exact same > option from Rivendell - either 61 or 63 would work. However, Rich > advised me that with handlebars set up the same way (shorter stem on > the 63), the 63 would handle better. I'm very happy with the 63. I > have a small handful of seatpost showing - 3" or so, and with the stem > sticking 2" out of the headset, both are level. The top of the seat > and the crook of the stem are both about 6" above the top tube and the > bike looks perfectly proportioned. I think if I raise the stem up to > the max, it ends up about 2" above the top of the saddle. I ride 40c > Schwalbe Marathons and ride the bike mostly for commuting. Keep in > mind that when you stop and put a foot down at lights, etc. you have > even more standover height because one foot is up on the pedal. > Dylan, if you wouldn't mind, just to humor me - measure from the tip of your saddle to the middle of the flats on your handlebars. I'm curious what that distance is. thanks -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
They are just shipping now. Bruce Gordon and Peter Weigle had prototypes. Bruce Gordon comments on them in his blog and the framebuilders forum. Peter Weigle mentions them in some of his flickr comments. On May 11, 12:40 pm, Liesl wrote: > Anyone out there tried 'em? > > http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: 59cm Bleriot (was "Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?")
(I just had to edit that subject line...) Thanks everyone for feeding the beast! Velo love is so easy yet so hard to sate sometimes. My intention with a daily Bleriot will be to equip it with a dynohub front wheel, which would *probably* be the latest Shimano, just to save a few $$. Perhaps I'll finally plunk down on the SON20 edelux and build myself a new front wheel for my AHH and "hand me down" to the Bleriot the SON28 that's there. What fun - I'm totally into self- powered lights. I'll probably go with Berthoud steel fenders for the durability, and the Tubus rear from my LHT. l was fine with SKS on my LHT until they self-destructed after only 18 months, and took a cool sticker collection with them. This doesn't seem like a very light bike at all, so I guess I'm hoping the tubing is ... eh, whatever... it's all about the ride! You know, I've been assuming 59cm is the right size for me, given a PBH of 85.25 and the fact that I've got 58s in LHT, Quickbeam, AHH, and a 59 Roadeo (and several 58s in other bikes elsewhere). Roadeo cross - that would be fun to see! I never did put a second bottle cage on that frame, maybe I could develop a special hand-up holder, especially for the cupcakes! On May 11, 2:15 pm, Erik C wrote: > > hmm .. .will the Bleriot be lighter? set-up as a commuter with a > > similar build as the LHT, i bet they are very close weight-wise. > > unless you do a "light" build, it will still be heavy. > > I have both a LHT and a Bleriot. With stock components the LHT is > obviously heavier when lifting it. My wife and I lived in a 3rd floor > apartment in Chicago for 2 years and I would carry the LHT because of > how much lighter my Bleriot was. My Bleriot isn't really a "light" > build either. Standard Riv build with 32H wheelset, racks, fenders, > etc. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Pacenti Pari-Moto 650B Tires?
Anyone out there tried 'em? http://www.velo-orange.com/papati65ta.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
I have a PBH of 89 and ride a 63cm AHH. I was given the exact same option from Rivendell - either 61 or 63 would work. However, Rich advised me that with handlebars set up the same way (shorter stem on the 63), the 63 would handle better. I'm very happy with the 63. I have a small handful of seatpost showing - 3" or so, and with the stem sticking 2" out of the headset, both are level. The top of the seat and the crook of the stem are both about 6" above the top tube and the bike looks perfectly proportioned. I think if I raise the stem up to the max, it ends up about 2" above the top of the saddle. I ride 40c Schwalbe Marathons and ride the bike mostly for commuting. Keep in mind that when you stop and put a foot down at lights, etc. you have even more standover height because one foot is up on the pedal. Dylan On May 11, 8:22 am, tucker wrote: > stocking feet pbh is 89, with sneakers on it moves up to 92.5. I have > big feet (size 13). The bike will mostly be ridden as a commuter in > NYC. If the actual standover with 35mm tires is 87 or so, that would > give me 5.5 cm standover, over two inches. If it follows that the 61 > would have 85 standover on 35 mm tires, that would give me three > inches of standover, which seems like alot, for even a country bike. > On a 63 my saddle will be approximately 15.5 cm above the top tube, > that seems like i will get the requisite fistfull of post. Maybe im > wrong, Im just afraid on the 61 i will have trouble getting the handle > bars a couple cm above the saddle. thanks for all the input. > > On May 11, 11:03 am, Patrick in VT wrote: > > > > > > > On May 11, 9:22 am, tucker wrote: > > > > Thanks everyone, > > > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > > > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > > > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > > > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > > > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > > > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. > > > with a saddle height 78.5, you're going to have very little seatpost > > showing on a 63, so spend some time thinking about where you want the > > bars. assuming you don't want the bars at/above saddle height, you > > might not be able to get the bars *low* enough with dirtdrop/m-bar set > > up. > > > i recall seeing a rockin' AHH recently (maybe jinxed's?) - the > > dirtdrop stem is fully inserted and the bars still look "up" for his > > riding style (he rides stuff where it helps to have a bit of bar > > drop). > > > and speaking of riding style ... standover clearance is a personal > > thing. if you think you don't need it for whatever kind of riding > > your doing, that's cool. i'm intimate with the top tubes on some of > > my bikes too. but, if you're going to be rough-riding, and anticipate > > needing to put a foot down every now and then, especially in places > > where it's not always convenient to put a foot down - standover > > helps. or, if you plan on loading up your hilsen for a tour of sorts > > - having more standover helps. and i can't imagine that you're going > > to have much on a 63. just something to consider. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
I'm sure you'll love them...I have 3 sets of them (2 in use, 1 spare for the next bike). The only issue I've had is an initial lack of lubrication with MKS pedals. I started with the Touring Pedals which worked great until my first longer ride when one pedal developed a clicking which I couldn't initially pinpoint. For a while I thought I was going to have to replace my BB; it was just the pedal. I repacked them and didn't have any trouble...until I switched to the GKs. As soon as I put them on the click was back so I immediately repacked them. When I ordered another set for another bike I didn't even bother trying them and repacked them from the get go. it's easy enough to do. I originally found this link: http://stankertanker.blogspot.com/2008/12/mks-touring-pedal-dismay-and-rebuild.html That article is about the touring pedals which have 11 ball bearings per pedal. The Grip Kings, at least my 3 pair, have 12. Aloha! Bob Aloha! Bob On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:09 AM, sean wrote: > Thanks for the imput Grant and others. I bit the bullet and ordered > some. The "plank" statement wasn't so much about having alot of > support under my feet as it was abotu being concerned the "meaty" > parts of my feet would be positioned in the wrong place on long > pedals. Seems that these pedals will work well for my foot size and, > beyond that, it is all personal preference. Hoping to love them and > not look back. Thanks. > > Sean > (not a Texan, a Masshole living in Texas!) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilborne in Outside Magazine
Utility 1. An economic term referring to the total satisfaction received from a good or service Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
I used a little sharp hook-shaped pick tool I got at Harbor Freight, which allowed me gently insert the pointy tip between plug and pedal body, and to pull on a lip on the plug, which sits more-or-less flush with the pedal body. The grey plug on the outboard side of the pedal is a press fit, with some little ridges to seal and hold it in, like some stoppers for carbonated beverages you might find in a kitchen gadget store. Easy out and pop back in. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > How did you get the plastic dust cap out? I assumed it was just > threaded and tried to unscrew it with a pin tool, and all i did was > mangle the pin holes, the cap didn't budge. > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Bill Gibson > wrote: > > Yep. Go for them. Grip Kings feel like arch support, so any light shoe is > > a rigid bike shoe, with no hot spots. You have "high efficiency", > infinite > > pedal float to save your joints, and get-on-and-go readiness. I lube mine > by > > pulling the plastic plug over the outboard bearings and dribbling in > Phil's > > gooey green oil, and popping it back in. Mine don't seem to leak oil > much, > > or at all after that treatment. > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brad Gantt wrote: > >> > >> I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in > >> Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Gibson > > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
> So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some > point? Riv still sells the CDs: http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/riv-reader-pdfs-on-cds/24-127 On May 11, 1:49 pm, happyriding wrote: > So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some > point? > > Will my local library have them? :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
Riv has been selling them for a while. Don't think you will find them at the library though. http://tinyurl.com/24w988h On May 11, 2:49 pm, happyriding wrote: > So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some > point? > > Will my local library have them? :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
> The picture of a Bombadil below has a Tubus Tara mounted on the front > fork, but the horizontal bar on which you hang your panniers isn't > level. Do you have that same issue with your Nova? On what bike do > you have the Nova mounted on? Thanks. Not an issue with Ortliebs or Arkels for that matter. The mounting hardware adjusts up and down as needed to fit the rack. On May 11, 2:02 pm, happyriding wrote: > On May 11, 12:44 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J" > > wrote: > > Rene: > > > Keven told me that he was pretty sure they'd installed a Nitto Big Front on > > a bike with Neo-Retros; he was going to inquire and let me know. > > > In the meantime, though, your point is a good one about being able to take > > the low riders on and off when you like -- and if you want to use low > > riders and want silver, take a look at the Tubus Nova stainless steel rack > > from Peter Whitehttp://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp. I have it, > > and it's great. > > The picture of a Bombadil below has a Tubus Tara mounted on the front > fork, but the horizontal bar on which you hang your panniers isn't > level. Do you have that same issue with your Nova? On what bike do > you have the Nova mounted on? Thanks. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/45341...@n04/4162942851/ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?
> > hmm .. .will the Bleriot be lighter? set-up as a commuter with a > similar build as the LHT, i bet they are very close weight-wise. > unless you do a "light" build, it will still be heavy. > I have both a LHT and a Bleriot. With stock components the LHT is obviously heavier when lifting it. My wife and I lived in a 3rd floor apartment in Chicago for 2 years and I would carry the LHT because of how much lighter my Bleriot was. My Bleriot isn't really a "light" build either. Standard Riv build with 32H wheelset, racks, fenders, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riv TOSRV Riders
Great ride this weekend and great to see everyone again. Seems like the number of Riv or Riv-esque bikes doubled this year from last. Dick, you were right, it was a Hillborne (that you sold to him) and not a Hillson that I saw. Heres a link to an article and some photos of the ride. Check out the last photo in the slide show for Riv related content. http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2010/05/09/a-blustery-ride.html http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/multimedia/audio_slideshows/2010/05/scioto/index.html On Apr 30, 2010, at 8:11 AM, John Geiger wrote: > Another interesting tie between Riv and TOSRV, in RR42 theres an article > about June and Greg Siple and their long distance touring. Greg started TOSRV > in 1962 with just himself and one other person. The ride peaked at about 6000 > riders about two decades later and now regularly brings in about 3000 riders > each year. > > We'll see you there again this year Dick. > > > On Apr 30, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Dick Denning wrote: > >> If you live at all close to Ohio, and have been riding for awhile, >> you're probably familiar with the Tour Of the Scioto River Valley >> (TOSRV), http://www.tosrv.org . TOSRV starts and finishes in >> Columbus, Oh., and is always on Mothers Day weekend. This year is the >> 49th TOSRV and will be held next weekend, the weekend of May 8th & >> 9th. >> >> I usually ride with a group of riding buddies, and we have a few >> Rivendells in the mix. Usually a couple of Rambouillets, a Romulus, >> sometimes a Rivendell or Bleriot, etc. This year I know of one Sam >> Hillborne that'll be joining us as well. I often see a couple of >> other Ramb's (John) and an AHH (Mark?) too. >> >> Just wanted to let any other RBW owners/fans know they're more than >> welcome to join us on our ride to and from Portsmouth, Oh. We leave >> from the SW corner of the Statehouse on Saturday morning. We aim to >> gather there about 7:15AM on Saturday and try to leave by 7:30, though >> we're often running 15 minutes late. A quick recreational pace gets us >> to Portsmouth before 5PM. >> >> Feel free to join us. Look for a couple of blue Rambouillets and >> you'll know you've found us. >> >> Dick Denning >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
On May 11, 12:44 pm, "Allingham II, Thomas J" wrote: > Rene: > > Keven told me that he was pretty sure they'd installed a Nitto Big Front on a > bike with Neo-Retros; he was going to inquire and let me know. > > In the meantime, though, your point is a good one about being able to take > the low riders on and off when you like -- and if you want to use low riders > and want silver, take a look at the Tubus Nova stainless steel rack from > Peter Whitehttp://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp. I have it, and > it's great. > > The picture of a Bombadil below has a Tubus Tara mounted on the front fork, but the horizontal bar on which you hang your panniers isn't level. Do you have that same issue with your Nova? On what bike do you have the Nova mounted on? Thanks. http://www.flickr.com/photos/45341...@n04/4162942851/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
That seems to happen around here with regularity. Not always, but often. My Exustar race shoes/Look pedals have lain unused for a couple of years now From: sean To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 1:04:42 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings I guess maybe my "type of riding" is changing more and more over time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some point? Will my local library have them? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Rene: Keven told me that he was pretty sure they'd installed a Nitto Big Front on a bike with Neo-Retros; he was going to inquire and let me know. In the meantime, though, your point is a good one about being able to take the low riders on and off when you like -- and if you want to use low riders and want silver, take a look at the Tubus Nova stainless steel rack from Peter White http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/tubus_racks.asp . I have it, and it's great. Tom From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 1:24 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders Ray, I'll have to look at the photo you sent me again. It didn't register that the clamps were being used for that reason. I haven't had a chance to call Marc or Keven yet, but will try to do it as soon as I get a break at work. I also realized that with the Big Front Rack, I'd probably have to leave it permanently whereas if I go with the low riders (too bad there aren't any in silver ones) I could just leave the small rack permanently and install and remove the low riders when I need them. We'll see how it all turns out... René On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Ray Shine mailto:r.sh...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote: I believe this is a pretty typical problem with the front rack. I had the same issue when mounting it to the Atlantis, which also has the neo-front cantis. RBW includes the rubber C-clamps in the kit to address the mounting issue. Not as clean looking, but it works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
There is a little cut out in the pedal body where the cap is pushed in. Jam and awl or other spikey object in there and leverage the cap out. At least that is how I do it. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Bill Connell wrote: > How did you get the plastic dust cap out? I assumed it was just > threaded and tried to unscrew it with a pin tool, and all i did was > mangle the pin holes, the cap didn't budge. > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Bill Gibson > wrote: > > Yep. Go for them. Grip Kings feel like arch support, so any light shoe is > > a rigid bike shoe, with no hot spots. You have "high efficiency", > infinite > > pedal float to save your joints, and get-on-and-go readiness. I lube mine > by > > pulling the plastic plug over the outboard bearings and dribbling in > Phil's > > gooey green oil, and popping it back in. Mine don't seem to leak oil > much, > > or at all after that treatment. > > > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brad Gantt wrote: > >> > >> I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in > >> Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Gibson > > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > Bill Connell > St. Paul, MN > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
Speaking of Bullseye... I like most of their stuff, (although I have never seen the wood platform model Grant mentioned) and they have some new platformish pedals that look very nice. MUSA of course: http://tinyurl.com/2fxegzf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
Thanks for the imput Grant and others. I bit the bullet and ordered some. The "plank" statement wasn't so much about having alot of support under my feet as it was abotu being concerned the "meaty" parts of my feet would be positioned in the wrong place on long pedals. Seems that these pedals will work well for my foot size and, beyond that, it is all personal preference. Hoping to love them and not look back. Thanks. Sean (not a Texan, a Masshole living in Texas!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
Thanks for all the input everyone. Very helpful and dispelled some of my concerns. I went ahead and ordered some. I am hoping the width to length ratio will work well for me. I still ride "clicked in" on my Rambouillet (for long distance riding), but love "pedaling free" for commuting and general riding/errands/grocery hauling,etc. Agree with Mike, it really is very liberating. I still think clipless pedals have their place though depending on the type of riding. I guess maybe my "type of riding" is changing more and more over time. Thanks again all. Sean ATX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
How did you get the plastic dust cap out? I assumed it was just threaded and tried to unscrew it with a pin tool, and all i did was mangle the pin holes, the cap didn't budge. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > Yep. Go for them. Grip Kings feel like arch support, so any light shoe is > a rigid bike shoe, with no hot spots. You have "high efficiency", infinite > pedal float to save your joints, and get-on-and-go readiness. I lube mine by > pulling the plastic plug over the outboard bearings and dribbling in Phil's > gooey green oil, and popping it back in. Mine don't seem to leak oil much, > or at all after that treatment. > > On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brad Gantt wrote: >> >> I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in >> Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Bill Gibson > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: gripkings
Yep. Go for them. Grip Kings feel like arch support, so any light shoe is a rigid bike shoe, with no hot spots. You have "high efficiency", infinite pedal float to save your joints, and get-on-and-go readiness. I lube mine by pulling the plastic plug over the outboard bearings and dribbling in Phil's gooey green oil, and popping it back in. Mine don't seem to leak oil much, or at all after that treatment. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Brad Gantt wrote: > I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in > Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
Personally I am huge fan of the GK. I like the fact that they do not grip as much as studded pedals do. It allows me to make subtle shifts of my feet without having to "lift" them up. Something that is tough to do with gnarly spikes. They definitely grip enough for me. I ride them in rain and shine and never felt like I wanted more grip. I have tried studded pedals in the past but prefer the Gripkings more subtle grip. In terms of comfort I rate them very high. I completed a 300k brevet on them without any foot discomfort at all. I wore some rather thin soled shoes as well. I wear a size 12 shoe in normal to wide widths depending on model. The key thing to maximize the pedals width is to wear shoes without a "bumper" zone around the shoe - meaning a shoe where the sole's footprint is no wider than the upper. I like the width on the GK and find it more then enough - It works well when riding the bicycle in fixed mode as well. Hope this helps. Clayton On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Rene Sterental wrote: > I use GK pedals with Keen Coronado Cruiser shoes and love the combination. > I wear size 10.5 on the Coronados. Sometimes the rubber front/tip of the > shoe rubs the crank arm if I pull the feet in too much, but they grip > wonderfully (almost like 5/10 shoes) and are very comfortable. Haven't tried > them on a longer ride yet, been using the 5/10 Activator 2 but my feet hurt > after a while on those. The 5/10 also fit very well on the GKs. > > Haven't tried any other pedals, but now cannot go back to SPDs. I tried > once and was astonished at how constricted I felt by being unable to move my > foot around. > > René > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
I say go for it. I love my 'Kings. Recently rode a fast 40 miles in Tevas and total comfort. They don't feel big, they feel good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hilborne in Outside Magazine
I understand that the point of "utility" is to distinguish them from "recreational" or "racing" or whatever. I also understand the writer's interest in not wanting to complicate things with a litany of verbiage. That said, "utility" means something different to me, and fairly to most of the bike geeks I consort with. Utility bikes are work bikes, cargo bikes, bikes that are not recreational (but are still fun to ride) but rather are built to be utilitarian: bakfiets, Xtracycles, the Yuba Mundo. Those are utility bikes. I can carry a load of groceries or a case of beer on my Hillborne, but mostly it's for the pure joy of riding (being useful is part of that, for me anyway) whether I'm commuting, noodling around town, or clocking big miles and dreaming of my first brevet. All-rounder works, but something else might, too. I just think "utility" is too loaded (har, har) a term. Really enjoyed the article, though! Shawn On May 10, 3:21 pm, Michael_S wrote: > I looked all over the paper Magazine to find the article. Was this on > the web only? > > I've subsribed to Outside since it was Mariah ( dating myself here). > > I think Utility is a good description... touring, mountain and road > bike all in one! I love mine. > > ~Mike~ > > On May 10, 1:58 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Kaptain Amerika > > > wrote: > > > I'm the writer... > > > > utility = useful/practical/utilitarian, as opposed to one-trick-pony > > > road and mtn bikes that I consider purely "recreational" and reliant > > > on "support." utility is the umbrella term for touring and city bikes. > > > it's not a dis; it's praise! and a useful organizing principle for the > > > reader. you'll find no carbon here. > > > Does 'All-rounder' not cover this class of bike too? > > > -sv > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Highrider front rack vs. Big Front Rack vs. Low Riders
Ray, I'll have to look at the photo you sent me again. It didn't register that the clamps were being used for that reason. I haven't had a chance to call Marc or Keven yet, but will try to do it as soon as I get a break at work. I also realized that with the Big Front Rack, I'd probably have to leave it permanently whereas if I go with the low riders (too bad there aren't any in silver ones) I could just leave the small rack permanently and install and remove the low riders when I need them. We'll see how it all turns out... René On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 8:00 AM, Ray Shine wrote: > I believe this is a pretty typical problem with the front rack. I had the > same issue when mounting it to the Atlantis, which also has the neo-front > cantis. RBW includes the rubber C-clamps in the kit to address the mounting > issue. Not as clean looking, but it works. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: gripkings
Grant used lots of caps. His one handed typing must be improving, or he's learned how to hit the -shift- key with a 'ifferent 'igit. I've always been a right-pinky shifter (on keyboards). On May 11, 9:48 am, Grant Petersen wrote: > texan sean says: > I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > my feet. > > 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. > > Bullseye used to make pedals with a 4x5 or 4x6 piece of marinegrade plywood > mounted onto a pedal body. most comfortable pedal ever, but not > double-sided. > > if still shy, try Sneaker Pedals. > > G > -- > Grant > Rivendell Bicycle Workswww.rivbike.com > 925 933 7304 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SoCal River Ride?
anyone Rivendell-borne going to be doing the LA River Ride? i'm going to register for the Century later today - it'll be my first one. :) think i'm going to use the Sam Hillborne for that... anyone think doing a century on bullmoose bars could be problematic? http://la-bike.org/events/los_angeles_river_ride.html cheers, andrew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
In my experience, usually a BB/crank clicking sound is due to one of the many interfaces between a steel and aluminum surfaces down there. Here is what I do when my BB/crank starts to make a clicking sound, based on likelihood of source: 1) Make sure crank bolts are tight 2) Make sure chainring/spider bolts are tight 3) Make sure pedals are tight in the cranks If that doesn't do it, then: 2) Take out the BB, put lots of grease on the BB threads and cup threads, and interface between outer bearing race and BB cups. Re- install BB cups, and torque down nice and snug If that doesn't do it, then: 4) Take off drive-side crank and disassemble the rings. Grease interfaces between steel bolts and aluminum surfaces. Re-assemble and make sure every bolt is tight. 5) Make sure crank-bolt threads are greased 6) Make sure pedal axle threads/pedal boss threads are greased If that doesn't work, the bearings of the BB may need to be re- packed. You don't want to put grease on the spindle taper- although that is a debated issue among some folks, most manufacturers recommend against it, so I tend to follow that. Just make sure the crank bolts are tight, and the creak won't be from the spindle taper/crank arm interface. Anyway, good luck finding the solution. It can drive you nuts trying to stop a creak sometimes, but just be patient and you'll fix it! On May 11, 11:40 am, GeorgeS wrote: > I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which > cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately > starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the > clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking > stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the > bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. > The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks > with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is > a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the > spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to > be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not > square? > Perplexed. > GeorgeS > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
I use GK pedals with Keen Coronado Cruiser shoes and love the combination. I wear size 10.5 on the Coronados. Sometimes the rubber front/tip of the shoe rubs the crank arm if I pull the feet in too much, but they grip wonderfully (almost like 5/10 shoes) and are very comfortable. Haven't tried them on a longer ride yet, been using the 5/10 Activator 2 but my feet hurt after a while on those. The 5/10 also fit very well on the GKs. Haven't tried any other pedals, but now cannot go back to SPDs. I tried once and was astonished at how constricted I felt by being unable to move my foot around. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] gripkings
texan sean says: I am concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under my feet. 2which I say: that's the *goal*! surface are maximillization. Bullseye used to make pedals with a 4x5 or 4x6 piece of marinegrade plywood mounted onto a pedal body. most comfortable pedal ever, but not double-sided. if still shy, try Sneaker Pedals. G -- Grant Rivendell Bicycle Works www.rivbike.com 925 933 7304 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Some Updates on the "RBW Group Requests / FAQ" Page
Thanks, Jim, for tweaking the process, and not eliminating it. I have purchased many items -- including two bikes -- from list members. I find it to be a very direct way of buying pieces and bikes. I've old items, as well. I trust the list posters so much more. I've never been stung by a list member (knock, knock, knock). From: cyclofiend To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Tue, May 11, 2010 8:43:58 AM Subject: [RBW] Some Updates on the "RBW Group Requests / FAQ" Page Just a little refinement of the For Sale listing policy for this group, as contained in an earlier post. Click on http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/rbw-group-requests - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't work. - Jim / List Admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?
On May 11, 2:14 am, terryg wrote: > I have everything I need (I don't have a cross bike, actually), and my > apartment > is overrun by bikes! do you race cross? if not, your roadeo should be all the "cross" bike you need. it fits 35s, right? > Then I remembered that I like my LHT a lot! But > it is heavy, and I do carry it up & down my stairs every day. hmm .. .will the Bleriot be lighter? set-up as a commuter with a similar build as the LHT, i bet they are very close weight-wise. unless you do a "light" build, it will still be heavy. > Then again, I really like the feel of my 650B AHH. I would very much > prefer to ride something that felt like that here in the city every > day. And why not do so, right? Life is for the living of it, and > mine has significant 2-wheeled co-existence... may as well fully enjoy > it! that's all the reason you need! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
I tried the Grip Kings and, to my dismay, the proportions and axle location didn't work for me. I have a short wide foot, women's size 6, and wear very soft shoes when I ride (chuck taylors, soft-soled moccasins). The GP's were long for my foot but I think I could've gotten over that; it was more that the axle doesn't extend to the cage (port/starboard, not bow/stern so to speak) and created a lump toward the center of the pedal right under the ball of my foot. (This also happens with the new EZ quick-release MKS pedals.) I've wound up staying with the MKS touring pedals and found a home for the GK's. I'd recommend seeing if you can borrow a pair and try 'em out wearing your softest regular riding shoe before you make the purchase. Has anyone tried the VO City or Touring pedals? liesl minneapolis On May 11, 9:39 am, bwgride wrote: > I have the grip king. It is well made and smooth, but I found it was > not comfortable for me because the pedal, while long, is not wide. My > feet tended to roll to the outside. I use BMX style pedals now which > are wider. > > On May 11, 9:26 am, sean wrote: > > > > > Hi Group, > > > Thinking of pulling the trigger on some Grip Kings, but am concerned > > about their dimensions. Basically, I want to be able to ride in any > > and all shoes/sneakers especially Chuck Taylor type shoes (actually > > Keen Coronados) and Birkenstocks. Currently I am using the MKS Touring > > with cages, which worked great with Sambas over the years but now > > they're hurting my feet. My question is: are the Grip Kings too long > > for say a size 7-8 shoe? I have wide feet but not very big feet. I am > > concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > > my feet. how do the GR9s compare? Any comments appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Sean > > Austin, TX > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
stocking feet pbh is 89, with sneakers on it moves up to 92.5. I have big feet (size 13). The bike will mostly be ridden as a commuter in NYC. If the actual standover with 35mm tires is 87 or so, that would give me 5.5 cm standover, over two inches. If it follows that the 61 would have 85 standover on 35 mm tires, that would give me three inches of standover, which seems like alot, for even a country bike. On a 63 my saddle will be approximately 15.5 cm above the top tube, that seems like i will get the requisite fistfull of post. Maybe im wrong, Im just afraid on the 61 i will have trouble getting the handle bars a couple cm above the saddle. thanks for all the input. On May 11, 11:03 am, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 11, 9:22 am, tucker wrote: > > > Thanks everyone, > > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. > > with a saddle height 78.5, you're going to have very little seatpost > showing on a 63, so spend some time thinking about where you want the > bars. assuming you don't want the bars at/above saddle height, you > might not be able to get the bars *low* enough with dirtdrop/m-bar set > up. > > i recall seeing a rockin' AHH recently (maybe jinxed's?) - the > dirtdrop stem is fully inserted and the bars still look "up" for his > riding style (he rides stuff where it helps to have a bit of bar > drop). > > and speaking of riding style ... standover clearance is a personal > thing. if you think you don't need it for whatever kind of riding > your doing, that's cool. i'm intimate with the top tubes on some of > my bikes too. but, if you're going to be rough-riding, and anticipate > needing to put a foot down every now and then, especially in places > where it's not always convenient to put a foot down - standover > helps. or, if you plan on loading up your hilsen for a tour of sorts > - having more standover helps. and i can't imagine that you're going > to have much on a 63. just something to consider. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
FYI - you have two discs missing; 12 - 21 and 22 - 25. Not sure why the third has only four issues on it. On May 11, 10:39 am, jose wrote: > Hello. Does anyone have a Rivendell Reader CD, issues# 12 - 25 that > they are done with? I have the discs for 1-11, and 26-35, but am > missing 12 -25 in pdf format. > > I also have most of these in original paper format, so we could also > work out a trade. > > I've recently switched to an e-reader, so before I sit there and scan > the remaining hard-copies into PDF I thought I'd check with you guys > first. > > Thanks, > > -- J. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Some Updates on the "RBW Group Requests / FAQ" Page
Just a little refinement of the For Sale listing policy for this group, as contained in an earlier post. Click on http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/web/rbw-group-requests - or copy & paste it into your browser's address bar if that doesn't work. - Jim / List Admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
Plus the Grip King name is a misnomer: they don't grip that well. Call me old fashioned, but I don't think I should have to buy spikes and install them into a $54 pedal to get good grip, especially if said pedal is called the King of Grip. OK, grip griping mode off. On May 11, 9:31 am, Mojo wrote: > Sean, > > I have to echo bwgride's experience with the GKs. I have size 11 feet > that supinate, that is they tend to roll outward as I walk. The lack > of width on the GKs seems to encourage my feet to roll off the outside > of the pedal. And the extended length only feels odd to me with no > perceived advantage. I prefer a traditional BMX-type pedal. > > On May 11, 7:26 am, sean wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Group, > > > Thinking of pulling the trigger on some Grip Kings, but am concerned > > about their dimensions. Basically, I want to be able to ride in any > > and all shoes/sneakers especially Chuck Taylor type shoes (actually > > Keen Coronados) and Birkenstocks. Currently I am using the MKS Touring > > with cages, which worked great with Sambas over the years but now > > they're hurting my feet. My question is: are the Grip Kings too long > > for say a size 7-8 shoe? I have wide feet but not very big feet. I am > > concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > > my feet. how do the GR9s compare? Any comments appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Sean > > Austin, TX > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:40 AM, GeorgeS wrote: > I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which > cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately > starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the > clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking > stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the > bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. > The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks > with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is > a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the > spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to > be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not > square? 1. it's possible the cranks were not as tight as you think 2. it's possible that you couldn't put enough force/weight on the pedals to make it happen on the workstand 3. it's possible that your bottom bracket needs to be repacked/reinstalled/regreased 4. it's possible the clicking is your saddle rails (yes, it happened to me and nearly drove me nuts) check all those things. oh and buy a torque wrench and tighten things to the manufacture specs. it'll make you feel better, if nothing else. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Annoying Noise from Cranks/BB
I have been experiencing an annoying clicking from the cranks/BB which cannot be heard when the bike is on the stand but which immediately starts when I am actually peddling. I changed out the pedals and the clicking remained. Then I changed the crank set and the clicking stopped and has not returned and I've put more than 100 miles on the bike with the new cranks. There's not much to go wrong on cranks. The bolts attaching the rings to the spider are tight. The cranks with the problem is a Sugino triple I bought new from RBW. The BB is a Tange also purchased new from RBW. The cranks were tight on the spindle. Any suggestions on what is going on here? Something has to be moving. Is it possible the square hole for the spindle is not square? Perplexed. GeorgeS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
Sean, I have to echo bwgride's experience with the GKs. I have size 11 feet that supinate, that is they tend to roll outward as I walk. The lack of width on the GKs seems to encourage my feet to roll off the outside of the pedal. And the extended length only feels odd to me with no perceived advantage. I prefer a traditional BMX-type pedal. On May 11, 7:26 am, sean wrote: > Hi Group, > > Thinking of pulling the trigger on some Grip Kings, but am concerned > about their dimensions. Basically, I want to be able to ride in any > and all shoes/sneakers especially Chuck Taylor type shoes (actually > Keen Coronados) and Birkenstocks. Currently I am using the MKS Touring > with cages, which worked great with Sambas over the years but now > they're hurting my feet. My question is: are the Grip Kings too long > for say a size 7-8 shoe? I have wide feet but not very big feet. I am > concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > my feet. how do the GR9s compare? Any comments appreciated. > > Thanks, > Sean > Austin, TX > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Recent Visit to Rivendell
Great photos! Where'd you take the bike too? On May 10, 7:59 pm, Beardpapa wrote: > Thanks Tony. Just threw up some more images! > > Here's what a 48cm Hunqapillar looks like next to a > 62http://www.flickr.com/photos/gideon/4596993435/ > > On May 10, 7:57 pm, Tony wrote: > > > > > > > Great group of photos Gideon; very wistful and dream-like. I've looked > > at the set three times now. More! > > > Tony > > > On May 10, 11:41 am, Beardpapa wrote: > > > > My buddy and I had a great visit out to Rivendell. Jay and Grant were > > > generously gracious hosts. Grant and I talked photography and he > > > showed us the new darkroom they're putting in. We took a Bombadil and > > > Hunqapillar out to the nearby open space along with a fellow Riv owner > > > from NY for a couple hours. Great company with passionate staff > > > creating a community around cycling. > > > > Here are some photos (with more to come): > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/gideon/sets/72157623894648885/ > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SoCal Riv May 1 Riv Ride; Photos
If seven riders go on a nice ride, and at least five don't blog about it, did the ride really happen? http://www.xo-1.org/2010/05/if-seven-riders-go-on-nice-ride-and-at.html - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1.org On May 1, 7:59 pm, Dustin Sharp wrote: > Seven turned out for today's SoCal Riv ride, riding everything from a Roadeo > with Jack Browns, to a MTB singlespeed with 29x2.4 tires. > > 42 miles, 5600 feet of climbing, and about 80% of it on dirt. Temps in the > high 60s. > > This was some of the best mixed-surface riding around. Paved road, dirt > road, rough fireroad, and a little single track. Some pretty steep pitches, > including one stretch of 21% grade dirt. > > Stats and map: > > http://connect.garmin.com/activity/31903053 > > Pics: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/33769...@n04/sets/72157623847776549/ > > Cheers, > > Dustin Sharp > San Diego, Calif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Maybe WTB: 59 Bleriot?
I snagged one of the Riv demos as they were clearing off the floor, and have zero regrets. I do occasionally carry some loads that are probably inappropriate for the Bleriot, but so far without consequence, and it rides great. I can't say enough nice things about the bike -- I've used it on single track in the mountains of North Carolina, and ride it daily on the streets of Atlanta, and it does what it should. I am working the other end of your issue, and getting an Atlantis for heavier stuff (and just because I've always wanted one.) The Bleriot will remain my daily commuter, because it's the right bike for the job, and I don't want to lock the Atlantis up at the outdoor rack downtown; it's hard enough to do with the Bleriot. I am using the platform rack on the front w/ the Mark's rack, and it has exponentially increased the utility of an already exceptionally useful bicycle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
On May 11, 9:22 am, tucker wrote: > Thanks everyone, > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. with a saddle height 78.5, you're going to have very little seatpost showing on a 63, so spend some time thinking about where you want the bars. assuming you don't want the bars at/above saddle height, you might not be able to get the bars *low* enough with dirtdrop/m-bar set up. i recall seeing a rockin' AHH recently (maybe jinxed's?) - the dirtdrop stem is fully inserted and the bars still look "up" for his riding style (he rides stuff where it helps to have a bit of bar drop). and speaking of riding style ... standover clearance is a personal thing. if you think you don't need it for whatever kind of riding your doing, that's cool.i'm intimate with the top tubes on some of my bikes too. but, if you're going to be rough-riding, and anticipate needing to put a foot down every now and then, especially in places where it's not always convenient to put a foot down - standover helps. or, if you plan on loading up your hilsen for a tour of sorts - having more standover helps. and i can't imagine that you're going to have much on a 63. just something to consider. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
I've found that w/ M-bars, you want the stem ~2cm shorter (closer) than you would w/ drops. YMMV On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:22 AM, tucker wrote: > Thanks everyone, > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. > > On May 11, 1:40 am, amoll68 wrote: > > Hi Tucker, > > > > It's worth obsessing over. I imagine you're wishing for a 62? > > > > This 63cm AHH with 35mm Supremes, has a stand over height just under > > 87cm (measured just forward of the BB spindle): > http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/sets/72157622960184871/ > > > > My PBH is around 91, and BB to center of my Brooks B17 is 80cm (I ride > > with sit bones on the higher back end of the saddle.) The stem is 9cm, > > approximately level with the saddle, and H-bars are 48 Nitto Noodles - > > which reminds me that the TT length on the 63 is 1.5cm longer than the > > 61. Gotta think about that fit, too. I have a relatively long torso, > > and this setup feels dialed in to me. (I'm 6' 3", if that helps at > > all.) 64cm is a good size for me also, and I even have a porteur style > > bike that's about a 66 - but that has swept back bars. > > > > Depending on your torso and that TT length, I'd lean toward the bigger > > size myself. Have you called RBW? > > > > Good luck! > > > > Alex > > Seattle, WA > > > > On May 10, 9:21 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm 89 PBH, and have two 61cm frames. If you like your bars to be at > saddle > > > height with a "normal" stem, that'll work fine. If you want them > higher and > > > don't want to use a Dirt Drop type stem, go with the 63 IMHO. > > > > > That said, if I was getting an AHH, I'd get a 63. > > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:23 PM, tucker > wrote: > > > > Hi all, my PBH is 89 and I'm trying to decide between a 63 or 61 A > > > > Homer Hilsen. Someone told me the listed standovers are a bit high. > > > > I will be running the bike with 35 mm tires, or 23-24 wide rims. > > > > anyone have any experience with this or the true standover of a 63 > > > > frame, or with sizing up in general. I know this has been covered a > > > > bit here, but i can't help obsessing over this purchase. thanks. > > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com e...@googlegroups.com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA > > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is > something > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill > Nye, > > > scientist guy > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > . > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: MKS Grip Kings
I have the grip king. It is well made and smooth, but I found it was not comfortable for me because the pedal, while long, is not wide. My feet tended to roll to the outside. I use BMX style pedals now which are wider. On May 11, 9:26 am, sean wrote: > Hi Group, > > Thinking of pulling the trigger on some Grip Kings, but am concerned > about their dimensions. Basically, I want to be able to ride in any > and all shoes/sneakers especially Chuck Taylor type shoes (actually > Keen Coronados) and Birkenstocks. Currently I am using the MKS Touring > with cages, which worked great with Sambas over the years but now > they're hurting my feet. My question is: are the Grip Kings too long > for say a size 7-8 shoe? I have wide feet but not very big feet. I am > concerned that the GKs might be so long they'll feel like planks under > my feet. how do the GR9s compare? Any comments appreciated. > > Thanks, > Sean > Austin, TX > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
Hello. Does anyone have a Rivendell Reader CD, issues# 12 - 25 that they are done with? I have the discs for 1-11, and 26-35, but am missing 12 -25 in pdf format. I also have most of these in original paper format, so we could also work out a trade. I've recently switched to an e-reader, so before I sit there and scan the remaining hard-copies into PDF I thought I'd check with you guys first. Thanks, -- J. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
I also have a PBH of 89cm and ride a 61cm AHH with the handlebars level with the seat. I had been using a 90mm stem but now I use 120 and it's much better. On May 11, 9:22 am, tucker wrote: > Thanks everyone, > I did call Rivendell, and they told me i could go with either size. > On my current bike a custom track frame. The standover is 84.5, the > top tup is 59cm and stem a 110 nitto pearl is about 4 cm below my > seat. My saddle height is right around 78.5. I am planning on using a > nitto dirt drop stem with mustache bars. I guess i am leaning towards > the larger frame, so i can get higher handle bars easier. > > On May 11, 1:40 am, amoll68 wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Tucker, > > > It's worth obsessing over. I imagine you're wishing for a 62? > > > This 63cm AHH with 35mm Supremes, has a stand over height just under > > 87cm (measured just forward of the BB > > spindle):http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151...@n07/sets/72157622960184871/ > > > My PBH is around 91, and BB to center of my Brooks B17 is 80cm (I ride > > with sit bones on the higher back end of the saddle.) The stem is 9cm, > > approximately level with the saddle, and H-bars are 48 Nitto Noodles - > > which reminds me that the TT length on the 63 is 1.5cm longer than the > > 61. Gotta think about that fit, too. I have a relatively long torso, > > and this setup feels dialed in to me. (I'm 6' 3", if that helps at > > all.) 64cm is a good size for me also, and I even have a porteur style > > bike that's about a 66 - but that has swept back bars. > > > Depending on your torso and that TT length, I'd lean toward the bigger > > size myself. Have you called RBW? > > > Good luck! > > > Alex > > Seattle, WA > > > On May 10, 9:21 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > > > > I'm 89 PBH, and have two 61cm frames. If you like your bars to be at > > > saddle > > > height with a "normal" stem, that'll work fine. If you want them higher > > > and > > > don't want to use a Dirt Drop type stem, go with the 63 IMHO. > > > > That said, if I was getting an AHH, I'd get a 63. > > > > On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:23 PM, tucker > > > wrote: > > > > Hi all, my PBH is 89 and I'm trying to decide between a 63 or 61 A > > > > Homer Hilsen. Someone told me the listed standovers are a bit high. > > > > I will be running the bike with 35 mm tires, or 23-24 wide rims. > > > > anyone have any experience with this or the true standover of a 63 > > > > frame, or with sizing up in general. I know this has been covered a > > > > bit here, but i can't help obsessing over this purchase. thanks. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > e...@googlegroups.com> > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > Cheers, > > > David > > > Redlands, CA > > > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > > > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > > > scientist guy > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
