date:20100614

Suppose someone was looking for a good size fender for a romulus.
According to the info on cyclofiend's website it seems like something
like a 45mm fender would cover a jackbrown on a romulus or is that a
pipe-dream w/the shimano sidepulls?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photo on Rivendell site

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Beth betha.lu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Used to be a Surly in the pic.

weird - when I go there I still the surly.

there's another pic with a romulus in the pic with speedblends on it and horses.

this one:

surly:
http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/301/original_4590403106_22bd404c35_1_.jpg

rom:
http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/310/original_h12.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Tektro CR720s on a Quickbeam

2010-06-14 Thread Ginz

Phillip,

I re-read this thread and noted that we did not clearly respond to
your question about straddle yoke.

Raising the yoke (or using a wider yoke) will increase mechanical
advantage, making the lever feel more squishy while applying more
braking power to the rim.

I found that the Tektro CR720s required a much higher yoke than other
lower-profile cantis.  I specifically switched to the CR720s so that
the front yoke would be above my rack which was mounted through the
fork crown.  Because I have a small frame, I don't have much room in
the rear to move the yoke higher.  A WIDER yoke will solve that
problem, such as the one made by Problem Solvers.

If the front, you probably do not want a wider yoke.  Better to use a
narrow yoke and simply raise it as high as you need.  There is
generally more room for that in the front than in the rear.  If you
were to use a wider yoke in front, yes, you'd get more mechanical
advantage without raising the yoke.  However, you might even have to
lower the wider yoke a bit, thus causing it to hit your rack.

On my bike, I will use a narrow yoke up front and wide yoke in the
rear.  Problem solved.

On Jun 11, 6:29 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 I like that idea Mike!

 The tape is soft and may not last, but it's worth a shot.

 Angus

 On Jun 10, 6:54 pm, MikeC mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:



  I have been trying to come up with a way to minimize the radial slop
  between the studs and canti pivots and just thought of trying to wind
  the stud with Teflon tape. This would take up the space without
  increasing friction. Has anyone tried this?

  Mike

  On Jun 9, 11:49 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
  wrote:

   Thanks for these suggestions - I have V-brakes on my Bontrager with
   drops, and I love them. If I can't adjust the Tektros to be
   significantly better than the stock brakes, I'll just buy new pads for
   them and put them back on.

   The nice part of tracking the 'tinking' sound to the brakes was that
   now my saddle rails, seatpost and cranks are all greased and tight.

   I will try lowering the yoke on the front, and I'll toe the brakes
   more dramatically. I feel bad now for watching a CX race and wondering
   what's wrong with these people's brakes/mechanics? because 65% of
   the them would come diving into a turn with their forks going
   gackgackgackgackgack. Now that's me.

    Philip
   97128

   MikeC wrote:
I have the same issue with my Hillborne. I assume they use the same
studs as the QB. The problem is more radial slop than length-wise slop
as was previously mentioned. I had terrible brake shudder, because
when the brakes hit the rim, the cantis would rotate enough on the
stud to remove the little bit of toe-in that they had when not
engaged. I ended up re-postioning the pads with a lot of toe-in and
that solved the problem. Other than that issue, which I'm not sure is
due to the under sized stud or oversized brake bushing, I love the
CR720s.

On Jun 9, 10:06 am, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote:-
 On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Philip Williamson

 philip.william...@gmail.com wrote:
  I just changed out the stock Quickbeam brakes for Tektro CR720s, a
  presumable upgrade.

  However, the brakes have fore-aft play on the canti bosses, and 
  make a
  'tank'ing noise when plucked. The bike makes the exact same noise 
  when
  I jink to the left.

  So the bosses seem a shade too long for the brakes, both front and
  rear

  Has anyone else noticed this with the CR720?
  Should I add a thin washer under the nut? Under the brake?
  Is this the reason I get brake chatter on the front, or is that the
  pads still being brand new?
  Would moving the spring-end to the tighter hole keep the brakes from
  rattling as much?

  Also, regarding braking power, they seem the same as the old brakes.
  They're high profile, so I've got a high cable yoke. It can't get 
  much
  higher. I want a stronger front brake with a higher yoke, since I
  can't lower the stock low-profile brake's yoke any further, due to 
  the
  M12's mounting rod.

 Have you considered V-brakes? I tried the CR720 on my Quickbeam for a
 couple of years too, but recently switched to Avid Single Digit
 V-brakes (requires different levers or a Travel Agent). They do have a
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[RBW] Marin County Cyclists: I'm Confused (again!)

2010-06-14 Thread Ray

Jim and/or other Marin Cyclists -- I thought I understood the new
bikeway that will by-pass Lincoln in San Rafael, then I read the
article in the link below.  Are these one and the same?  If so, how
does one connect up in Larkspur?  Where, exactly, are the two portals
of this tunnel?  I thought I had this understood, but maybe I don't.
NOT unusual…

http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/whereWeWork/westernAlaskaHawaii/news/wereg_news_2009_11_CalParkTunnel.html

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[RBW] Re: 53cm Legolas on the 'bay

2010-06-14 Thread JL

This would not be a good candidate for a 650b conversion. The Legolas
is a 700c bike with designed for cantilever brakes. They brake mounts
are about 2cm too high on the seat stays and fork to work.



On Jun 14, 4:19 am, carnerda...@bellsouth.net
carnerda...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 I am not related to this bicycle in any way, but have a specific
 question about it for a friend who is interested:
 Would it make a good 650B conversion?  With the frame size and
 less-than-most-Riv's BB drop seems it would be ideal if brakes are
 available.  Would Motolites have enough reach to work?  More
 specifically, would that setup work with Hetres or Pari-Motos?
 David

 cyclotourist wrote:
  Was just looking at that.  Here's the tiny version:  
  *http://tinyurl.com/29sat3j

  *They also have a 52cm Rambouillet for sale.  And there's a 52cm
  Saluki someone else is selling.  If you ride a smaller frame, there's
  some good pickings at the moment!

  On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 10:13 PM, J L subfas...@gmail.com
  mailto:subfas...@gmail.com wrote:

      Not my bike, no relation to seller.

      Price is a little high for a used frame and fork IMHO, but given
      the rarity it almost seems appropriate.

      Great yellow color.

      My size, very tempting.  Someone buy it so I don't.

      No link, Tiny URL didn't want to cooperate.  Easy to find on ebay.

      -Jason

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Re: [RBW] Marin County Cyclists: I'm Confused (again!)

2010-06-14 Thread CycloFiend

on 6/14/10 8:20 AM, Ray at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Jim and/or other Marin Cyclists -- I thought I understood the new
 bikeway that will by-pass Lincoln in San Rafael, then I read the
 article in the link below.  Are these one and the same?  If so, how
 does one connect up in Larkspur?  Where, exactly, are the two portals
 of this tunnel?  I thought I had this understood, but maybe I don't.
 NOT unusualŠ
 
 http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/whereWeWork/westernAlaskaHawaii/news/were
 g_news_2009_11_CalParkTunnel.html

non-breaking link -
http://tinyurl.com/ydrbhf8

I'm doing this from memory on my first day back from vacation, so I may have
a few specifics wrong.  Basically, you are describing two separate projects
- the Lincoln Avenue/Puerto Suelo Hill segment and then the Cal Park Tunnel
segment.

Both are outgrowths of the Marin County Bicycle Plan, which was passed
waay back in the 70's.  The MCBC has provent to be quite adept at
leveraging funding for this plan.

Cal Park project was funded to run from San Rafael Bret Harte district,
through the Cal Park tunnel to a point ~3/4 mile south of the southern
entrance. It either parallels or runs on the Northern Pacific Right of Way,
and involved mostly improvements on the San Rafael side to overpasses and
widening of RoW.  (City of Larkspur has largely acted as an impediment to
the project.)  It is the first reuse of tunnels from the magnificent
electric intercounty commuter rail system which existed before WW2. The
short connector to the Larkspur Ferry Terminal and Corte Madera Creek
segment of the bike path has  been outside of the project, but I think they
just announced finalization of that bit.

The Cal Park tunnel is on the rail tracks, to the east of Hwy101 at Larkspur
Landing on the south and in San Rafael (almost under the freeway) on the
north end. 

Lincoln Ave was part of the 101 Corridor improvement project which has been
going on forever. This created a separated path from Mission Ave in San
Rafael north to the top of Puerto Suelo (Lincoln Ave).  It does not use the
existing train tunnel but ducks under the freeway on/off ramp via a short
subway section (above the train tracks).

I have photos from the Lincoln Ave Project here -
http://tinyurl.com/2dy3pyn

The overview of the North-South Bikeway project, of which both are ultimatly
a part, can be found here -
http://marinbike.org/Campaigns/Index.shtml

hope that helps,

- J


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[RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread MichaelH

If you are talking about a plastic fender - SKS, Bertoud, etc - a 45
will cover a Jack Brown and will, just barely, fit under shimano
sidepulls.  However, a 45 in a metal fender  probably will not.  Steel
and Al fenders both have rolled metal lips on them that take up about
4 mm of space on either side of the fender, and the bolts, especially
the through bolt from the fork crown sticks down inside the fender.
Also these fenders seem to have considerable amount of mfg. variance.
My Honjos actually measure 43mm and a 32mm tire would be two tight for
every day use.  I run 28's on my Rambouillet, with Honjos and that
works perfectly.

As a general rule, I would offer - use plastic if you want to maximize
tire size for your frame; use metal if you want the most durable
fender for commuting and bad road riding; use Al. if you want a
beautiful, light weight option for a good rondonee style bike, like
the Rambouillet.  I use steel on my commuter; Al on my Rambouillet,
and plastic on the tandem.

Michael

On Jun 14, 10:33 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suppose someone was looking for a good size fender for a romulus.
 According to the info on cyclofiend's website it seems like something
 like a 45mm fender would cover a jackbrown on a romulus or is that a
 pipe-dream w/the shimano sidepulls?

 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you are talking about a plastic fender - SKS, Bertoud, etc - a 45
 will cover a Jack Brown and will, just barely, fit under shimano
 sidepulls.  However, a 45 in a metal fender  probably will not.  Steel
 and Al fenders both have rolled metal lips on them that take up about
 4 mm of space on either side of the fender, and the bolts, especially
 the through bolt from the fork crown sticks down inside the fender.
 Also these fenders seem to have considerable amount of mfg. variance.
 My Honjos actually measure 43mm and a 32mm tire would be two tight for
 every day use.  I run 28's on my Rambouillet, with Honjos and that
 works perfectly.

 As a general rule, I would offer - use plastic if you want to maximize
 tire size for your frame; use metal if you want the most durable
 fender for commuting and bad road riding; use Al. if you want a
 beautiful, light weight option for a good rondonee style bike, like
 the Rambouillet.  I use steel on my commuter; Al on my Rambouillet,
 and plastic on the tandem.


I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

thanks for the explanation.
-sv

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[RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread stevep33

My commuter has Berthoud 35mm composite fenders.  The coverage is
better than SKS fenders because the front fender reaches significantly
further forward.  The compromise is that the front fender section
forward of the fork crown vibrates more because it is very long.  The
Berthoud mounting hardware is very nice - single stays, very solid.  I
also like the round profile better than the square profile on the SKS
P35.  Similar durability to SKS fenders.
Overall, very nice.


 I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
 sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

 thanks for the explanation.
 -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:48 PM, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
 My commuter has Berthoud 35mm composite fenders.  The coverage is
 better than SKS fenders because the front fender reaches significantly
 further forward.  The compromise is that the front fender section
 forward of the fork crown vibrates more because it is very long.  The
 Berthoud mounting hardware is very nice - single stays, very solid.  I
 also like the round profile better than the square profile on the SKS
 P35.  Similar durability to SKS fenders.
 Overall, very nice.


You have the 35mm fenders ones over 28mm tires?

-sv

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

 i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara 
 Supremems.

Andrew:  Those are pretty big tires.  For sure quite comfortable to
ride (I know mine are!), but a lot of rubber to move as well.  A
lighter, tire coupled to lighter wheelset will make a big difference.
Should be just what you need for events, while keeping the Schwalbe
shod wheels for every day.

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks guys - good suggestion.

 i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara 
 Supremems.
 a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  and 
 then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :)

 best,
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[RBW] Re: fenders

 I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
 sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

Did not measure them but the composites are notably longer than SKS.

I have the 50s on my Bruce Gordon over Schwalbe Mar. Supreme 40s.
There is a lot of room between fender and tire.  I suspect I could fit
the smaller Big Apples there if I wanted to give it a shot.

On Jun 14, 12:19 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
  If you are talking about a plastic fender - SKS, Bertoud, etc - a 45
  will cover a Jack Brown and will, just barely, fit under shimano
  sidepulls.  However, a 45 in a metal fender  probably will not.  Steel
  and Al fenders both have rolled metal lips on them that take up about
  4 mm of space on either side of the fender, and the bolts, especially
  the through bolt from the fork crown sticks down inside the fender.
  Also these fenders seem to have considerable amount of mfg. variance.
  My Honjos actually measure 43mm and a 32mm tire would be two tight for
  every day use.  I run 28's on my Rambouillet, with Honjos and that
  works perfectly.

  As a general rule, I would offer - use plastic if you want to maximize
  tire size for your frame; use metal if you want the most durable
  fender for commuting and bad road riding; use Al. if you want a
  beautiful, light weight option for a good rondonee style bike, like
  the Rambouillet.  I use steel on my commuter; Al on my Rambouillet,
  and plastic on the tandem.

 I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
 sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

 thanks for the explanation.
 -sv- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread William

Andrew

Dont forget to consider the rear wheel spacing.  Your Hillborne is
135mm, but if you go to a traditional go-fast, you may find yourself
shopping for a 130mm rear wheel all over again.

On Jun 13, 10:39 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks guys - good suggestion.

 i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara 
 Supremems.
 a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  and 
 then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :)

 best,
 andrew

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[RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread Esteban

I have fit 35mm Honjos over 28mm Paselas - VERRRY tight.  Not
recommended.  I would imagine that 43mm Honjos would work under the
brakes with 28mm Paselas no problem.

The Rom is designed around 27/28mm tires, and in my experience, that's
where it shines.  I like the feeling of 28s better than Jack Browns on
that bike.  That being said, it can bomb down a trail on 33.3s or 35s
no problemo just without fenders.

Of course, this is all conjecture, given that we're just supposing
about a Romulus :)

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Jun 14, 11:03 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
  I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
  sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

 Did not measure them but the composites are notably longer than SKS.

 I have the 50s on my Bruce Gordon over Schwalbe Mar. Supreme 40s.
 There is a lot of room between fender and tire.  I suspect I could fit
 the smaller Big Apples there if I wanted to give it a shot.

 On Jun 14, 12:19 pm, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:15 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
   If you are talking about a plastic fender - SKS, Bertoud, etc - a 45
   will cover a Jack Brown and will, just barely, fit under shimano
   sidepulls.  However, a 45 in a metal fender  probably will not.  Steel
   and Al fenders both have rolled metal lips on them that take up about
   4 mm of space on either side of the fender, and the bolts, especially
   the through bolt from the fork crown sticks down inside the fender.
   Also these fenders seem to have considerable amount of mfg. variance.
   My Honjos actually measure 43mm and a 32mm tire would be two tight for
   every day use.  I run 28's on my Rambouillet, with Honjos and that
   works perfectly.

   As a general rule, I would offer - use plastic if you want to maximize
   tire size for your frame; use metal if you want the most durable
   fender for commuting and bad road riding; use Al. if you want a
   beautiful, light weight option for a good rondonee style bike, like
   the Rambouillet.  I use steel on my commuter; Al on my Rambouillet,
   and plastic on the tandem.

  I'm a bit curious about the berthoud composite fenders. They look
  sharp and seem to be considerably longer than the sks ones.

  thanks for the explanation.
  -sv- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Cloud

I agree that the 45mm Honjo aluminum fenders work well with sidepulls
and 700x28c tires.  I'm running the Honjo fenders with Sun Tour
Superbe Pro (the hidden spring model) sidepull caliper brakes and
(currently) Panaracer Pacela 700x28c tires on my first generation
(1996) Rivendell Road Standard.  There are no problems with clearances
using this set-up, but I wouldn't be able to run a larger (e.g. 32)
size of tire unless I removed the fenders.

The original Road Standard brake bridges have such close clearances
that I don't think the bike was ever intended to run with fenders and
tires larger than 28mm.  Looking at my brochure of the Romulus,
however, it was obviously designed for standard reach brakes, and I'd
think the 45mm Honjos would work well with the Jack Browns.
(According to the brochure, the crown has sufficient clearance for
700x38 tires).

Jim Cloud

On Jun 14, 10:15 am, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 If you are talking about a plastic fender - SKS, Bertoud, etc - a 45
 will cover a Jack Brown and will, just barely, fit under shimano
 sidepulls.  However, a 45 in a metal fender  probably will not.  Steel
 and Al fenders both have rolled metal lips on them that take up about
 4 mm of space on either side of the fender, and the bolts, especially
 the through bolt from the fork crown sticks down inside the fender.
 Also these fenders seem to have considerable amount of mfg. variance.
 My Honjos actually measure 43mm and a 32mm tire would be two tight for
 every day use.  I run 28's on my Rambouillet, with Honjos and that
 works perfectly.

 As a general rule, I would offer - use plastic if you want to maximize
 tire size for your frame; use metal if you want the most durable
 fender for commuting and bad road riding; use Al. if you want a
 beautiful, light weight option for a good rondonee style bike, like
 the Rambouillet.  I use steel on my commuter; Al on my Rambouillet,
 and plastic on the tandem.

 Michael

 On Jun 14, 10:33 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Suppose someone was looking for a good size fender for a romulus.
  According to the info on cyclofiend's website it seems like something
  like a 45mm fender would cover a jackbrown on a romulus or is that a
  pipe-dream w/the shimano sidepulls?

  -sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:27 PM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have fit 35mm Honjos over 28mm Paselas - VERRRY tight.  Not
 recommended.  I would imagine that 43mm Honjos would work under the
 brakes with 28mm Paselas no problem.

 The Rom is designed around 27/28mm tires, and in my experience, that's
 where it shines.  I like the feeling of 28s better than Jack Browns on
 that bike.  That being said, it can bomb down a trail on 33.3s or 35s
 no problemo just without fenders.


Interesting - the romulus flyer on cyclofiend's site says 38mm w/o
fenders and 35mm with.

 Of course, this is all conjecture, given that we're just supposing
 about a Romulus :)

hey - I planned on a kogswell model-p once before and fedex did their
level best to mess it all up.

I shall count no chickens!

-sv

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread Jeremy Till

Don't forget the upcoming Rivendell/Soma collaboration (Amos?)-
basically a road bike for 57mm calipers (like Ram, Rom, and Roadeo)
with the expanded geos.  Sounds like exactly what you're looking for.

On Jun 13, 7:17 pm, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 hi folks,

 i loved riding my first century recently, on a Sam Hillborne, but it was a 
 pretty slow (though mostly comfortable) push. so the way i have it set up 
 it's excellent for city commuting and loaded touring / randonneuring, but 
 still think i want a gofast for club/training rides, built up with lighter 
 wheels/rubber, etc.

 the thing is - the expanded geometry of the Sam fits my build (and that of a 
 few other odd ducks who have recently posted) at 5'11 with an 84.5 pbh, 
 rounding up.

 so - of the current frames new or in circulation, what lightish, expandedish 
 frame should i be looking for for?  should i simply try another Sam?  maybe a 
 size down with a longer stem?  :)

 just musing - but i figured y'all would have some opinions.

 thanks,
 andrew

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Re: [RBW] Marin County Cyclists: I'm Confused (again!)

2010-06-14 Thread Ray Shine

Thanks, Jim.  That means I wasn't crazy. It is two separate projects.. God news 
on both ends!  Hope they open before I'm too old to ride…

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Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 9:40:51 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Marin County Cyclists: I'm Confused (again!)

on 6/14/10 8:20 AM, Ray at r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Jim and/or other Marin Cyclists -- I thought I understood the new
 bikeway that will by-pass Lincoln in San Rafael, then I read the
 article in the link below.  Are these one and the same?  If so, how
 does one connect up in Larkspur?  Where, exactly, are the two portals
 of this tunnel?  I thought I had this understood, but maybe I don't.
 NOT unusualŠ

 http://www.railstotrails.org/ourWork/whereWeWork/westernAlaskaHawaii/news/were
 g_news_2009_11_CalParkTunnel.html

non-breaking link -
http://tinyurl.com/ydrbhf8

I'm doing this from memory on my first day back from vacation, so I may have
a few specifics wrong.  Basically, you are describing two separate projects
- the Lincoln Avenue/Puerto Suelo Hill segment and then the Cal Park Tunnel
segment.

Both are outgrowths of the Marin County Bicycle Plan, which was passed
waay back in the 70's.  The MCBC has provent to be quite adept at
leveraging funding for this plan.

Cal Park project was funded to run from San Rafael Bret Harte district,
through the Cal Park tunnel to a point ~3/4 mile south of the southern
entrance. It either parallels or runs on the Northern Pacific Right of Way,
and involved mostly improvements on the San Rafael side to overpasses and
widening of RoW.  (City of Larkspur has largely acted as an impediment to
the project.)  It is the first reuse of tunnels from the magnificent
electric intercounty commuter rail system which existed before WW2. The
short connector to the Larkspur Ferry Terminal and Corte Madera Creek
segment of the bike path has  been outside of the project, but I think they
just announced finalization of that bit.

The Cal Park tunnel is on the rail tracks, to the east of Hwy101 at Larkspur
Landing on the south and in San Rafael (almost under the freeway) on the
north end. 

Lincoln Ave was part of the 101 Corridor improvement project which has been
going on forever. This created a separated path from Mission Ave in San
Rafael north to the top of Puerto Suelo (Lincoln Ave).  It does not use the
existing train tunnel but ducks under the freeway on/off ramp via a short
subway section (above the train tracks).

I have photos from the Lincoln Ave Project here -
http://tinyurl.com/2dy3pyn

The overview of the North-South Bikeway project, of which both are ultimatly
a part, can be found here -
http://marinbike.org/Campaigns/Index.shtml

hope that helps,

- J

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[RBW] Bleriot should be done by week's end

2010-06-14 Thread S.Cutshall

Pulled my Bob Brown from 'Active Duty' yesterday, ordered some parts
for the Bleriot the day before that... should be doing some Bleriot-
Riding by Thursday if the USP-Man does his thing.

Photos from yesterday here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624146399733/

-Scott

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[RBW] Re: Photo on Rivendell site

Figured it was just two different bikes at the same horse farm.

Must be a known place to stop.  Someone on the Surly list mentioned
knowing where the horses are.

Be more fun if someone could get a photo of a Willbur(y) mixte with
the horse.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 9:34 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Beth betha.lu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Used to be a Surly in the pic.

 weird - when I go there I still the surly.

 there's another pic with a romulus in the pic with speedblends on it and 
 horses.

 this one:

 surly:http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/301/original_4590403106_22b...

 rom:http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/310/original_h12.jpg

 -sv

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[RBW] Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread Brad Gantt

Look out, here comes the revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Ended up riding my Sam Hillborne to the Minnesota Twins baseball game
yesterday.  Was able to cajole my wife to do that distance also.

Threatened rain, but as both bikes have fenders, not really an issue.
Was a fun ride.  Too bad can't say the same about the baseball game.
(Although guess it was fun if you were an Atlanta Braves fan.)

And can say actually wore a jersey while riding.  Albeit a Majestic
baseball jersey.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
 It's nice you can nickname your bike Louise.

 I tried to call my bike Suzie for a while but knowing it was already
 a Sam Hillborne put a squash on that idea.  Then I thought Sam really
 meant Samantha but that was way to many syllables: sa-man-tha-hill-
 borne.  So I gave up and now I just call it bicycle. :)

 On Jun 11, 6:32 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:



  I'll be taking Louise, my Rambouillet, from Prattville to ...- Hide quoted 
  text -

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[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread William

Bike Snob covers this topic today also.  Must be a guy-thing.

On Jun 14, 12:37 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look out, here comes the revolution.

 http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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Re: [RBW] Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread PATRICK MOORE

As usual, BSNYC has, in his today's blog, wurds of wizdum on the subject.

Patrick Moore, who did a breathtakingly fast* 20 mile hilly, windy out 'n'
back on his 75 Joe-built fixie gofast wearing khaki shorts, a madras plaid
shirt, a custom yellow cycling cap, and Shimano shoes for his KEOs (and nary
a chamois, shade, glove, helmet or rear pocket in sight).

*16 average rt, clock stopped!!! Prolly 15 --- eh, 14 rt clock running; but
it was windy and hilly! And fixed!

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Look out, here comes the revolution.

http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce

Several of us braved the heat and humidity for the ride to Selma. The Ram 
reminded me again why the 6,000+ miles on it have been so enjoyable. As comfy 
at the end as at the start.

Wore a Swobo jersey, and got plenty of snickers from the lycra crowd too.





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Sent: Mon, June 14, 2010 2:39:11 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Ended up riding my Sam Hillborne to the Minnesota Twins baseball game
yesterday.  Was able to cajole my wife to do that distance also.

T



  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 13:02 -0700, William wrote:
 Bike Snob covers this topic today also.  Must be a guy-thing.
 
 On Jun 14, 12:37 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
  Look out, here comes the revolution.
 
  http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd


Wait until they start wearing holes in the seats of their trousers.  



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[RBW] Re: Bleriot should be done by week's end

2010-06-14 Thread Justin August

What's the build list going to be by the end?

Ps: I saw the dismantling set earlier today. You should bronze that
thing! ;)

On Jun 14, 3:03 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pulled my Bob Brown from 'Active Duty' yesterday, ordered some parts
 for the Bleriot the day before that... should be doing some Bleriot-
 Riding by Thursday if the USP-Man does his thing.

 Photos from yesterday here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624146399733/

 -Scott

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[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

High heels make no sense to me wherever the wearer happens to be.

Otherwise, I agree there are many situations that everyday clothes are
just as good for riding the bike as bike centric.

On Jun 14, 2:37 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look out, here comes the revolution.

 http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot should be done by week's end

Amazing, isn't it, how small a a bike frame seems without all the
components?

Bleriot is coming along fine.  That Pedro tool set is beautiful.

On Jun 14, 2:03 pm, S.Cutshall clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
 Pulled my Bob Brown from 'Active Duty' yesterday, ordered some parts
 for the Bleriot the day before that... should be doing some Bleriot-
 Riding by Thursday if the USP-Man does his thing.

 Photos from yesterday here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/30264...@n00/sets/72157624146399733/

 -Scott

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Why would they snicker at Swobo? Isn't that pretty much mainstream? Maybe
alt-mainstream?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

Several of us braved the heat and humidity for the ride to Selma. The Ram
reminded me again why the 6,000+ miles on it have been so enjoyable. As
comfy at the end as at the start.

Wore a Swobo jersey, and got plenty of snickers from the lycra crowd too.

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*Subject:* [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Ended up riding my Sam Hillborne to the Minnesota Twins baseball game
yesterday. Was able to cajole my wife to do that distance also.

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Redlands, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Do they have bike racks at the stadium? Just wondering how that works out.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:39 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

Ended up riding my Sam Hillborne to the Minnesota Twins baseball game
yesterday. Was able to cajole my wife to do that distance also.

Threatened rain, but as both bikes have fenders, not really an issue.
Was a fun ride. Too bad can't say the same about the baseball game.
(Although guess it was fun if you were an Atlanta Braves fan.)

And can say actually wore a jersey while riding. Albeit a Majestic
baseball jersey.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
It's nice you can nickname your bike Louise.

I tried to call my bike Suzie for a while but knowing it was already
a Sam Hillborne put a squash on that idea. Then I thought Sam really
meant Samantha but that was way to many syllables: sa-man-tha-hill-
borne. So I gave up and now I just call it bicycle. :)

On Jun 11, 6:32 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

I'll be taking Louise, my Rambouillet, from Prattville to ...- Hide
quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce

It was the idea of wearing wool in 99F predicted temps, not the brand, per se.

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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Why would they snicker at Swobo?  Isn't that pretty much mainstream?  Maybe 
alt-mainstream? 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

A, I get it.

Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool when it's
hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

It was the idea of wearing wool in 99F predicted temps, not the brand, per
se.

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*Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Why would they snicker at Swobo? Isn't that pretty much mainstream? Maybe
alt-mainstream?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Photo on Rivendell site

2010-06-14 Thread nathan spindel

Nope, they're two different places. The Surly is in Virginia, the
other one is my bike (Romulus) taken in Woodside on Canada Road. :)

-nathan

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:31 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 Figured it was just two different bikes at the same horse farm.

 Must be a known place to stop.  Someone on the Surly list mentioned
 knowing where the horses are.

 Be more fun if someone could get a photo of a Willbur(y) mixte with
 the horse.

 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jun 14, 9:34 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Beth betha.lu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Used to be a Surly in the pic.

 weird - when I go there I still the surly.

 there's another pic with a romulus in the pic with speedblends on it and 
 horses.

 this one:

 surly:http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/301/original_4590403106_22b...

 rom:http://asset0.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/310/original_h12.jpg

 -sv

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo v. Soma ES?

2010-06-14 Thread ed k

My Soma ES frame was waiting patiently on the porch when I got home.
Right now it is soaking up some Boeshield.

The color is a beautiful deep red with a (tasteful) hint of
sparkliness.  And the pewter-colored headbadge is huge, but
understated.  Not like a Mac Truck belt buckle.

Unfortunately, there is no matching fork, so I bought the black IRD
unicrown that Soma sells with the bike.  The color combination looks
somehow sinister, demonish if you will.  Most of my components happen
to be black as well.  If I'm lucky it won't look too morose.  Maybe
some yellow bar tape?

Maybe by this weekend I will have a ride report.  Thanks for the
input.

Project time!



On Jun 2, 10:02 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Make sure you get one of the new ES's with the cool paint job and
 graphics and of course head badge.   I was considering one of these a
 few years ago and went with a Handsome Devil instead - which is great-
 but the if this version had been available I think I might be riding
 an ES

 http://www.somafab.com/extrasmoothiepix.html

 On May 31, 7:57 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I had a couple Somas and they were fine bikes.  They didn't track
  like Rivendells do, though.

  Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce

I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? Wool 
works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and doesn't abrade 
sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear wool shorts too, but 
had on ZOIC MTBs this time.





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A, I get it.

Don't sheep have to wear wool year round?  What's wrong with wool when it's hot 
(presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?


  

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Lee

On Jun 14, 2:44 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
 It was the idea of wearing wool in 99F predicted temps, not the brand, per se.

I had a similar experience this weekend, which was a warm one up in
the Bay Area. I was at a popular watering spot, mid-ride, and a fellow
cyclist declared You must be hot in that wool jersey! I looked
around at all of the cyclists sprawled out in absolutely every
available patch of shade, guzzling water and sports drinks, and
thought Lady, we're all hot. I just smiled and said, absolutely.
Btw, on the same ride a very friendly cyclist told me that she liked
my commuter bike and was surprised that I had ridden it all the way up
from San Francisco. For the record, I was riding my Ebisu outfitted
with Honjos, an Acorn Boxy Rando bag, Edelux, SON20R, yaddayadda.
Those were great, funny moments that kept me chuckling all the way
home.

Riv-related content: On every climb I was thinking, Jesus H, how the
heck am I going to get the Quickbeam over this thing?

Lee




 
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 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
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 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

 Why would they snicker at Swobo?  Isn't that pretty much mainstream?  Maybe 
 alt-mainstream?

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Yes, they do. And the racks weren't even full. Probably the
threatening skies were a deterrent to some. There are also lots of
areas close by to park bikes. Which may be better leaving the park.
We had to walk two blocks to find a spot to ride away.

The stadium is in an area where there are a lot of options for
cyclists.

We're hoping to do it again on the 4th of July.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 4:16�pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Do they have bike racks at the stadium? �Just wondering how that works out.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:39 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
Ended up riding my Sam Hillborne to the Minnesota Twins baseball game
yesterday. �Was able to cajole my wife to do that distance also.

Threatened rain, but as both bikes have fenders, not really an issue.
Was a fun ride. �Too bad can't say the same about the baseball game.
(Although guess it was fun if you were an Atlanta Braves fan.)

And can say actually wore a jersey while riding. �Albeit a Majestic
baseball jersey.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
It's nice you can nickname your bike Louise.

I tried to call my bike Suzie for a while but knowing it was already
a Sam Hillborne put a squash on that idea. �Then I thought Sam really
meant Samantha but that was way to many syllables: sa-man-tha-hill-
borne. �So I gave up and now I just call it bicycle. :)

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for
me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the
thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my
Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of
weather and I've lived to tell the tale.

Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 6:10�pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a
cycling rule.

Shame on me!

Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. �Like 'em a lot! �A bit longer than
MUSA shorts, which is a plus. �I think the MUSAs have better material and
more bar stitches though.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round?
Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and doesn't
abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear wool shorts
too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time.

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A, I get it.

Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? �What's wrong with wool when it's
hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?

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[RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread benzzoy

On Jun 14, 7:33 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suppose someone was looking for a good size fender for a romulus.
 According to the info on cyclofiend's website it seems like something
 like a 45mm fender would cover a jackbrown on a romulus or is that a
 pipe-dream w/the shimano sidepulls?

I don't know about using with Shimano sidepulls, but I know that 43mm
Honjos *barely* fit with Jack Browns.  I had to do a bit of adjusting,
and the clearance is quite tight, but they do fit without rubbing,
even after thousands of miles.

http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc539-benzouyang1008.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:05 PM, benzzoy benz...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Jun 14, 7:33 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 Suppose someone was looking for a good size fender for a romulus.
 According to the info on cyclofiend's website it seems like something
 like a 45mm fender would cover a jackbrown on a romulus or is that a
 pipe-dream w/the shimano sidepulls?

 I don't know about using with Shimano sidepulls, but I know that 43mm
 Honjos *barely* fit with Jack Browns.  I had to do a bit of adjusting,
 and the clearance is quite tight, but they do fit without rubbing,
 even after thousands of miles.

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc539-benzouyang1008.html



If someone had a romulus and added a cable hanger do you think the
paul centerpulls would work nicely on such a theoretical frame?

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread Michael_S

I really like her quote..

I can drive, but I don’t like to anymore,’’ says Eringros. “It feels
like you are traveling in a metal can and life is passing you by. When
you are out on a bike, you’re still moving fast, but you are part of
the life around you

Unfortunately I live in the 'burbs of LA... no one rides a bike except
the lycra clad roadies and recent immigrants who can't afford a car.
My wife thinks I'm crazy riding to the Post Office and store. And even
worse I'm building up an older Bridgestone as a porteur sytle bike to
carry even more.

... and I'm ok with heels however impractical.

~Mike~


On Jun 14, 1:19 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
 High heels make no sense to me wherever the wearer happens to be.

 Otherwise, I agree there are many situations that everyday clothes are
 just as good for riding the bike as bike centric.

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Re: [RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread andrew hill

ah.. i had forgotten the not-Amos.  
that or a SimpleOne will prob be my next, then..

thanks!
andrew

On Jun 14, 2010, at 11:37 AM, Jeremy Till wrote:

 Don't forget the upcoming Rivendell/Soma collaboration (Amos?)-
 basically a road bike for 57mm calipers (like Ram, Rom, and Roadeo)
 with the expanded geos.  Sounds like exactly what you're looking for.
 

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[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread charlie

I ride the 40 miles round trip to work in my Key brand logger jeans
with suspenders and a either a wool shirt or a plain cotton t-shirt.
For shoes I either wear my rubber duck boots when its raining or my
latest New Balance sport shoes. In the summer I wear my Teva sandals
with shorts but we can wear them at work so no problem. I've been
riding purposely with my regular clothes as Grant has suggested and I
have been finding out what works and what doesn't. As a young boy we
never had fancy pants or shoes to wear when cycling and it wasn't
until sometime in the late 70's or early 80's that I was able to
purchase real wool shorts with a chamois lining.  Those have long been
moth eaten and are so thin in spots they look like ladies hosiery. I
so enjoy riding in regular clothing and see o reason to ever go back
to specialized clothing...its just not necessary even on long hot
ride. I like the idea of being able to wear what I ride in to a sit
down lunch in a casual restaurant without feeling and looking like a
big goof or some sort of circus clown! I'm reminded of a recent book I
started reading the The Lost cyclist  were the riders of that day
wore pretty normal street wear, your basic tweed etc. Competitive
cycling athletes may require the most aerodynamic threads but I see no
reason to wear them.

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 Look out, here comes the revolution.

 http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

Very cool. I wondger if Dodger Stadium has cycling facilities, and even if
so, what it's like to ride there. Any LA folks know?

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:47 PM, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:

The stadium is in an area where there are a lot of options for
cyclists.

We're hoping to do it again on the 4th of July.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 4:16�pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
Do they have bike racks at the stadium? �Just wondering how that works
out.

And can say actually wore a jersey while riding. �Albeit a Majestic
baseball jersey.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:
It's nice you can nickname your bike Louise.

I tried to call my bike Suzie for a while but knowing it was
already
a Sam Hillborne put a squash on that idea. �Then I thought Sam really
meant Samantha but that was way to many syllables: sa-man-tha-hill-
borne. �So I gave up and now I just call it bicycle. :)

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/
tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching
to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save
even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram
25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an
earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the
front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight
as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on
DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
for your buck.

Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
stopping, etc.

Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
embrace your slowness!

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:
 thanks guys - good suggestion.

 i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe Mara 
 Supremems.
 a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  and 
 then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :)

 best,
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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread eflayer

you might find a subtle, yet fine difference with an off the rack
Gunnar Sport...with a carbon fork.  i think bikes with longer
chainstays seem slower.  the Sport is just a bit shorter that way
and the geometry is a tad more upright in the front and about the same
in the seat tube compared to the Sam.

i just got one.  i ordered mine with threaded steel fork and love the
ride.  with a carbon fork it might just feel that much more spritely.

mine currently sports 32 hole open pros on ultegra hubs and the ruffy
tires.  it would be fun to try a carbon fork and some michelin pro
race 23 tires just to see if the personality changes a bit.

just some thoughts from my recent experiences.

On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/
 tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
 probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching
 to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save
 even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram
 25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an
 earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the
 front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight
 as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
 that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on
 DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
 lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
 for your buck.

 Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
 duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
 stopping, etc.

 Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
 embrace your slowness!

 On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:



  thanks guys - good suggestion.

  i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe 
  Mara Supremems.
  a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  
  and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :)

  best,
  andrew- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Noisy Bagman support for Carradice bag

2010-06-14 Thread ejg

Thanks for the suggestions.
I ended up greasing it an tightening it. For tightening the tiny side
set screws Ilifted the bagman to relieve the tension and this enabled
me to give the side screws a couple of turns.
Everything seems ok now, but I'll let you know after this weekend

EJG

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 Funny you mention this. While I haven't experienced any creaking I did
 notice I have play with my bagman where the supports enter the piece
 that attaches to the saddle. I did try and tighten these up but they
 appear to be tightened up already. I do think Dave C. offers good
 advice for dealing with your noise. I may disassemble mine later this
 week just to see if the play can be eliminated.

 --mike

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread XO-1.org Rough Riders

Eric Hjertberg, who knows more about wheels than the rest of the
planet combined, told me that the combined frontal area of 36 spokes
is more than the bicycle frame itself, plus the spokes are spinning
through the air as the bike moves forward, further adding drag to our
forward movement. Thus, the point of having less spokes is about
aerodynamics, NOT weight.

As for ultralight tubes, any time saved because they are lighter and
offer less rolling resistance is probably negligible, especially when
compared to the time lost to the higher frequency of punctures they
will provide.

- Chris Kostman
La Jolla, CA
http://www.XO-1.org
http://www.adventurecorps.com

On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
 The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/
 tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
 probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching
 to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save
 even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram
 25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an
 earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the
 front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight
 as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
 that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on
 DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
 lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
 for your buck.

 Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
 duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
 stopping, etc.

 Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
 embrace your slowness!

 On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

  thanks guys - good suggestion.

  i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe 
  Mara Supremems.
  a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  
  and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated :)

  best,
  andrew

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[RBW] Re: Everyday Riding Clothes Going Main Stream

2010-06-14 Thread jamison brosseau

i dont understand. i have been riding daily most of my life.  i don't
own any cycling specific clothing.  i do have work and non work
clothing, but depending on whether im working or not i wear both on my
bikes.  i don't clip in, but i have before.  i agree with the bike
snob, who cares?  wear what you want, i am offended by neither.
spandex is fine, so is no spandex.  heels  cool too, clogs boat shoes
thongs or sidis fine with me.  do what you want, and don't sweat the
other people, unless they are naked.  I draw the line there.

On Jun 14, 9:14 pm, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I ride the 40 miles round trip to work in my Key brand logger jeans
 with suspenders and a either a wool shirt or a plain cotton t-shirt.
 For shoes I either wear my rubber duck boots when its raining or my
 latest New Balance sport shoes. In the summer I wear my Teva sandals
 with shorts but we can wear them at work so no problem. I've been
 riding purposely with my regular clothes as Grant has suggested and I
 have been finding out what works and what doesn't. As a young boy we
 never had fancy pants or shoes to wear when cycling and it wasn't
 until sometime in the late 70's or early 80's that I was able to
 purchase real wool shorts with a chamois lining.  Those have long been
 moth eaten and are so thin in spots they look like ladies hosiery. I
 so enjoy riding in regular clothing and see o reason to ever go back
 to specialized clothing...its just not necessary even on long hot
 ride. I like the idea of being able to wear what I ride in to a sit
 down lunch in a casual restaurant without feeling and looking like a
 big goof or some sort of circus clown! I'm reminded of a recent book I
 started reading the The Lost cyclist  were the riders of that day
 wore pretty normal street wear, your basic tweed etc. Competitive
 cycling athletes may require the most aerodynamic threads but I see no
 reason to wear them.

 On Jun 14, 12:37 pm, Brad Gantt brdg...@gmail.com wrote:

  Look out, here comes the revolution.

 http://tinyurl.com/2c2lnrd

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
 If someone had a romulus and added a cable hanger do you think the
 paul centerpulls would work nicely on such a theoretical frame?


s/hanger/stop/

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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders

2010-06-14 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 20:18 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:

 If someone had a romulus and added a cable hanger do you think the
 paul centerpulls would work nicely on such a theoretical frame?

I can't see any reason why not.  There are two versions, so you're bound
to find one with the appropriate reach.  I suspect with the Rom it will
be the new Racer M.



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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag

2010-06-14 Thread doug peterson

Rob:

I've used the Acorn boxy rando for well over a year now  it's a
permanent fixture on the bike, both for daily use and extended tours.
Perfect size; allows full use of h'bars; holds a bunch of stuff.
IMHO, the perfect front bag.

dougP

On Jun 10, 11:22 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you  
 say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why?

 I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in  
 Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my  
 film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and  
 possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle  
 bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could  
 be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if  
 I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of  
 a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars  
 set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the  
 Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack,  
 if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work.

 For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room  
 for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional  
 space for clothing.

 I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando,  
 Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium  
 handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain-
 proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight  
 months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it  
 does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed  
 canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry.

 Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/
   Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS!

 Thanks for your consideration.

 Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] 61 Rivendell Sam Hilbourne on Seattle Craigslist

2010-06-14 Thread Rob Harrison

In case anyone's interested. No connection or interest, just picked it  
up on my rivendell RSS


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/1792270501.html


Rob in Seattle





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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I don't want to get into a 2nd hand argument with Eric Hjertberg about
aerodynamics of spokes, but I would suggest that the OP is riding a
Hillborne (not the usual choice for the TT crowd) and that he just did
his first century with relatively large, heavy touring tires. I'm sure
there are at least a dozen things he could do to refine his technique
or free/cheap ways to make his bike faster that would have more effect
than cutting the aero drag of a few spokes. But now that you mentioned
it, maybe Jan Heine can repeat his tire rolling resistance tests,
except to test the effect of different numbers and lacing patterns of
spokes. I have an academic background in fluid mechanics for whatever
that's worth (not much), and based on no data, I believe the
aerodynamic effect of a few spokes is negligible. But I've been wrong
before.

I don't believe ultralight tubes get punctured more often. If
something sharp goes through the tire, it'll most likely poke a hole
in any tube, regardless of whether that tube is ultralight or normal
thickness. I've been using UL tubes for a couple years, with no
noticeable increase in my flat-rate. Nothing fancy, just Kenda or QBP-
brand lightweight tubes. Curiously, probably because a lot of people
are leery of lightweight tubes, I often find them cheaper than regular
tubes.

On Jun 14, 9:05 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Eric Hjertberg, who knows more about wheels than the rest of the
 planet combined, told me that the combined frontal area of 36 spokes
 is more than the bicycle frame itself, plus the spokes are spinning
 through the air as the bike moves forward, further adding drag to our
 forward movement. Thus, the point of having less spokes is about
 aerodynamics, NOT weight.

 As for ultralight tubes, any time saved because they are lighter and
 offer less rolling resistance is probably negligible, especially when
 compared to the time lost to the higher frequency of punctures they
 will provide.

 - Chris Kostman
 La Jolla, CAhttp://www.XO-1.orghttp://www.adventurecorps.com

 On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
 wrote:

  The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/
  tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
  probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching
  to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save
  even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram
  25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an
  earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the
  front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight
  as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
  that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on
  DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
  lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
  for your buck.

  Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
  duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
  stopping, etc.

  Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
  embrace your slowness!

  On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

   thanks guys - good suggestion.

   i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm Schwalbe 
   Mara Supremems.
   a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good idea.  
   and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more dedicated 
   :)

   best,
   andrew

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[RBW] Re: 61 Rivendell Sam Hilbourne on Seattle Craigslist

2010-06-14 Thread rcnute

Looks nice.  Funny, I haven't seen it around.  Then again, I saw
another Kogswell at the coffee shop the other day, so...

Ryan

On Jun 14, 8:28 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote:
 In case anyone's interested. No connection or interest, just picked it  
 up on my rivendell RSS

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/1792270501.html

 Rob in Seattle

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Re: [RBW] Re: what would make the best..

FWIW, my buddy uses 26 tubes in his 29er wheels. They're lighter than 29er
UL tubes (and half the cost) as well as the tubeless fluids/strips. He's
pretty happy with his set up, and doesn't puncture very often. He says it's
not a hassle to mount them, but YMMV.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:

I don't want to get into a 2nd hand argument with Eric Hjertberg about
aerodynamics of spokes, but I would suggest that the OP is riding a
Hillborne (not the usual choice for the TT crowd) and that he just did
his first century with relatively large, heavy touring tires. I'm sure
there are at least a dozen things he could do to refine his technique
or free/cheap ways to make his bike faster that would have more effect
than cutting the aero drag of a few spokes. But now that you mentioned
it, maybe Jan Heine can repeat his tire rolling resistance tests,
except to test the effect of different numbers and lacing patterns of
spokes. I have an academic background in fluid mechanics for whatever
that's worth (not much), and based on no data, I believe the
aerodynamic effect of a few spokes is negligible. But I've been wrong
before.

I don't believe ultralight tubes get punctured more often. If
something sharp goes through the tire, it'll most likely poke a hole
in any tube, regardless of whether that tube is ultralight or normal
thickness. I've been using UL tubes for a couple years, with no
noticeable increase in my flat-rate. Nothing fancy, just Kenda or QBP-
brand lightweight tubes. Curiously, probably because a lot of people
are leery of lightweight tubes, I often find them cheaper than regular
tubes.

On Jun 14, 9:05 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com
wrote:
Eric Hjertberg, who knows more about wheels than the rest of the
planet combined, told me that the combined frontal area of 36 spokes
is more than the bicycle frame itself, plus the spokes are spinning
through the air as the bike moves forward, further adding drag to our
forward movement. Thus, the point of having less spokes is about
aerodynamics, NOT weight.

As for ultralight tubes, any time saved because they are lighter and
offer less rolling resistance is probably negligible, especially when
compared to the time lost to the higher frequency of punctures they
will provide.

- Chris Kostman
La Jolla, CAhttp://www.XO-1.orghttp://www.adventurecorps.com

On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:

The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the tire/
tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by switching
to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You save
even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish gram
25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second an
earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in the
front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke weight
as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge on
DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
for your buck.

Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
stopping, etc.

Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
embrace your slowness!

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks guys - good suggestion.

i'm using Mavic rims with 36h XT hubs front and rear, with 40mm
Schwalbe Mara Supremems.
a lighter 32h wheelest/tires for event rides is an extremely good
idea. and then i'd have one for a road-ey bike if i wanted to go more
dedicated :)

best,
andrew

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo v. Soma ES?

2010-06-14 Thread RoadieRyan

Hope you will be posting some pics sounds like it will be a sweet
ride.  Enjoy.

Ryan

On Jun 14, 3:48 pm, ed k yagen...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Soma ES frame was waiting patiently on the porch when I got home.
 Right now it is soaking up some Boeshield.

 The color is a beautiful deep red with a (tasteful) hint of
 sparkliness.  And the pewter-colored headbadge is huge, but
 understated.  Not like a Mac Truck belt buckle.

 Unfortunately, there is no matching fork, so I bought the black IRD
 unicrown that Soma sells with the bike.  The color combination looks
 somehow sinister, demonish if you will.  Most of my components happen
 to be black as well.  If I'm lucky it won't look too morose.  Maybe
 some yellow bar tape?

 Maybe by this weekend I will have a ride report.  Thanks for the
 input.

 Project time!

 On Jun 2, 10:02 am, RoadieRyan rya...@hotmail.com wrote: Make sure you get 
 one of the new ES's with the cool paint job and
  graphics and of course head badge.   I was considering one of these a
  few years ago and went with a Handsome Devil instead - which is great-
  but the if this version had been available I think I might be riding
  an ES

 http://www.somafab.com/extrasmoothiepix.html

  On May 31, 7:57 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

   I had a couple Somas and they were fine bikes.  They didn't track
   like Rivendells do, though.

   Ryan

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Re: [RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread Rene Sterental

Now that you mention Jan Heine, today I received my BQ for the summer of
2010 and in it, there is a very interesting article and discussion regarding
whether modern bicycles are actually faster than older ones based on an
analysis of Tour de France speed. I haven't read it yet, just finished
browsing the magazine, but so far it seems to be one of those pieces that
will give some people a lot of debate hours... :-)

I won't spoil the article for those who will want to read it, but as always,
it makes for a very interesting read and analysis.

Now that I can no longer relate to the commercial magazines like Bicycling,
RBA, etc., getting BQ and/or a Riv Reader are festive occasions.

René

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[RBW] Re: what would make the best..

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

We use UL 26x2.4-2.7 tubes in Surly Endomorph/Larry 26x3.7 tires.
Saves about a pound per wheel over the standard tube. Haven't had one
of these flat yet.

On Jun 14, 11:01 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, my buddy uses 26 tubes in his 29er wheels. They're lighter than 29er
UL tubes (and half the cost) as well as the tubeless fluids/strips. He's
pretty happy with his set up, and doesn't puncture very often. He says it's
not a hassle to mount them, but YMMV.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

thill@gmail.com wrote:
I don't want to get into a 2nd hand argument with Eric Hjertberg about
aerodynamics of spokes, but I would suggest that the OP is riding a
Hillborne (not the usual choice for the TT crowd) and that he just did
his first century with relatively large, heavy touring tires. I'm sure
there are at least a dozen things he could do to refine his technique
or free/cheap ways to make his bike faster that would have more effect
than cutting the aero drag of a few spokes. But now that you mentioned
it, maybe Jan Heine can repeat his tire rolling resistance tests,
except to test the effect of different numbers and lacing patterns of
spokes. I have an academic background in fluid mechanics for whatever
that's worth (not much), and based on no data, I believe the
aerodynamic effect of a few spokes is negligible. But I've been wrong
before.

- Chris Kostman
La Jolla, CAhttp://www.XO-1.orghttp://www.adventurecorps.com

On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:

Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
stopping, etc.

Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
embrace your slowness!

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks guys - good suggestion.

best,
andrew

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Lynne Fitz

Wool is nice in the heat - especially if there is a breeze - cools you
off because it is drenched with sweat.  I rode the Wildflower Century
wearing a wool jersey on my fully-fendered Bleriot.  It was 94F.
Dropping other riders on climbs even.  Those were the days.

Lynne ladylike.  yes. F

On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
 When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for
 me.  Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the
 thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions.  Although my
 Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of
 weather and I've lived to tell the tale.

 Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt
 St. Paul, MN

 On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:



  I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a
  cycling rule.

  Shame on me!

  Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than
  MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material and
  more bar stitches though.

  On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
   I've used this very same line, Don't sheep have to wear wool year round?
   Wool works great when it's hot. It dissipates sweat better and doesn't
   abrade sensitive skin areas like micro fiber can. I usually wear wool 
   shorts
   too, but had on ZOIC MTBs this time.

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   *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

   A, I get it.

   Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool when it's
   hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?

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[RBW] Weekend ride

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Hanson

I did a comfy 30+ mile ride this weekend with a couple new goodies on the
Hilsen.  It went so well, I figured a ride report was in order.  I had put
Panaracer Pasela 35s on after 2000 miles of commuting on Jack Brown blues.
 At first, I thought they felt dead, even jolting, but after riding Big
Apples on my rain bike at about 30psi, I realized I just had the Paselas
pumped up too much.  I brought 'em down to 40psi, and voila - instant
smooth.  They are a bit tight with the 45 Honjo fenders, but I gave them
some space, and they don't rub.  Nice and smooth - easy to maintain 15-17
mph on a flat trail, and it made the notoriously bumpy Burke trail much more
comfortable.

Figured I needed an Acorn Boxy Rando bag to match my Lg Saddlebag.  I
finally got to take it out, and I love it!  Easy access to the camera during
the ride, and I was able to keep the phone in the top flap and use it as a
makeshift speedometer (I use Trailguru.com).  I carried my wallet, point 
shoot, and a couple snacks.  I didn't put the brake hood straps on as it
didn't move around much.  On the way back, I stopped at a local butcher shop
and loaded about 2 lbs of goodness in the rando.  No issues, no flop, no
wobble - even on the short dirt section I climb through.

I had taken a few weeks to rest my joints after bike month, and used the
time to change out my bars/brakes/stem.  I kept my porteur bars and stem
together so I could go back quickly if the inclination came up, but I wanted
to get a bit more height, so I threw on a Dirt Drop stem with 46cm Noodles.
 I did cotton over cork on the top section, and cotton-only in the drops.
 The green and yellow with amber shellac worked pretty well for the bike
colors (copper and green seat).  The bars were comfy, the brakes just right,
and the drops came in mighty handy in the headwinds.

Overall - a great day on the bike.  Smooth like a bullet train.

http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/KenmoreRide#

Brian
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Since we're talking about rides tomorrow..

2010-06-14 Thread Jim Cloud

Well, I'm not sure about riding elsewhere, but here in Tucson during
the summer I certainly don't wear wool jerseys. I have a number of
nice wool jerseys, but they remain on hangars in the closet during our
summer weather.

Personally, I much prefer the way a technical cycling jersey wicks the
moisture away (while providing some cooling). I have several lighter
weight jerseys by various makers (Pearl Izumi, Santini, Louis Garneau
and Giordana), and I'll take one of these in preference to a wool
jersey any day during our summer season (May through mid-October).
They don't stink, and I can just throw them in the washing machine and
dry them in the dryer. No hand washing, using Woolite, blocking the
garment or anything like that.

I'm seriously considering one of the jerseys made by Ground Effect in
New Zealand as a summer weight jersey. Their Slingshot model, with
polyester and a cotton outer layer looks very nice for our weather.
Here's a link:
http://www.groundeffect.co.nz/product-detail-SLI-SUM.htm

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

On Jun 14, 4:53 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote:
When the temp rises to the 90's that's when wool becomes optional for
me. Maybe I just overheat too easily, but anything more than the
thinnest merino tops make me woozy in those conditions. Although my
Nike wool cycling top has been tried a few times in that type of
weather and I've lived to tell the tale.

Eric (fat and sweaty) Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 14, 6:10 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

I ride in the 90's all summer long with wool, so never new I was braking a
cycling rule.

Shame on me!

Just bought some Zoic MTB shorts, too. Like 'em a lot! A bit longer than
MUSA shorts, which is a plus. I think the MUSAs have better material and
more bar stitches though.

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A, I get it.

Don't sheep have to wear wool year round? What's wrong with wool when it's
hot (presuming it's thin like Swobo is)?

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[RBW] Roofrack with Rivedells spotted in So Cal

2010-06-14 Thread James Warren


So I was riding near the Palos Verdes/Redondo Beach border, and I was on my 
orange Rambouillet (in an area where I never expect to see other Rivendells) 
when this car drives by carrying two beautiful bikes on the roof: I believe 
they were an Atlantis and a Wilbury or Glorius (purplish?). It was the 
prettiest car roof I've ever seen.

I wasn't in a visible spot, since I was over at a mailbox, so I'm pretty sure 
the driver didn't see me.

-Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] Re: what would make the best..

A pound per wheel... wow!

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:

We use UL 26x2.4-2.7 tubes in Surly Endomorph/Larry 26x3.7 tires.
Saves about a pound per wheel over the standard tube. Haven't had one
of these flat yet.

On Jun 14, 11:01 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
FWIW, my buddy uses 26 tubes in his 29er wheels. They're lighter than
29er
UL tubes (and half the cost) as well as the tubeless fluids/strips. He's
pretty happy with his set up, and doesn't puncture very often. He says
it's
not a hassle to mount them, but YMMV.

On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

- Chris Kostman
La Jolla, CAhttp://www.XO-1.orghttp://www.adventurecorps.com

On Jun 14, 6:39 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com
wrote:

The spoke count matters very little compared to the weight of the
tire/
tube/rim combination. You can save a bunch of rolling weight and
probably improve rolling resistance, for example, simply by
switching
to an ultralight tube (I almost always use ultralight tubes). You
save
even more rolling weight by switching to any of the 200-250-ish
gram
25-28 mm tires on the market. If you go with new wheels, I second
an
earlier recommendation of the Velocity Aerohead. Lacing radial in
the
front and half-radial in the back probably saves as much spoke
weight
as going to an exotically low number of spokes (exotic in the sense
that there aren't many economical 24h hubs). You could even splurge
on
DT Revolution butted spokes if you wanna go crazy. Buying expensive
lightweight hubs and cassettes will give you considerably less bang
for your buck.

Also: Consider ways to improve aerodynamics, reduce the number and
duration of stops, work on eating/drinking on the bike without
stopping, etc.

Or, my favorite solution: reject the dominant racing paradigm and
embrace your slowness!

On Jun 14, 12:39 am, andrew hill neurod...@gmail.com wrote:

thanks guys - good suggestion.

best,
andrew

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Re: [RBW] Weekend ride

2010-06-14 Thread Rob Harrison

Beautiful bike! The diamond wrap looks great. I think I will try that  
next time.


Where is Bill the Butcher? That sounds like some place I need to seek  
out.


And another candidate for a Seattle Riv Ride:)

Rob in Seattle


On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:36 PM, Brian Hanson wrote:

I did a comfy 30+ mile ride this weekend with a couple new goodies  
on the Hilsen.  It went so well, I figured a ride report was in  
order.  I had put Panaracer Pasela 35s on after 2000 miles of  
commuting on Jack Brown blues.  At first, I thought they felt dead,  
even jolting, but after riding Big Apples on my rain bike at about  
30psi, I realized I just had the Paselas pumped up too much.  I  
brought 'em down to 40psi, and voila - instant smooth.  They are a  
bit tight with the 45 Honjo fenders, but I gave them some space, and  
they don't rub.  Nice and smooth - easy to maintain 15-17 mph on a  
flat trail, and it made the notoriously bumpy Burke trail much more  
comfortable.


Figured I needed an Acorn Boxy Rando bag to match my Lg Saddlebag.   
I finally got to take it out, and I love it!  Easy access to the  
camera during the ride, and I was able to keep the phone in the top  
flap and use it as a makeshift speedometer (I use Trailguru.com).  I  
carried my wallet, point  shoot, and a couple snacks.  I didn't put  
the brake hood straps on as it didn't move around much.  On the way  
back, I stopped at a local butcher shop and loaded about 2 lbs of  
goodness in the rando.  No issues, no flop, no wobble - even on the  
short dirt section I climb through.


I had taken a few weeks to rest my joints after bike month, and used  
the time to change out my bars/brakes/stem.  I kept my porteur bars  
and stem together so I could go back quickly if the inclination came  
up, but I wanted to get a bit more height, so I threw on a Dirt Drop  
stem with 46cm Noodles.  I did cotton over cork on the top section,  
and cotton-only in the drops.  The green and yellow with amber  
shellac worked pretty well for the bike colors (copper and green  
seat).  The bars were comfy, the brakes just right, and the drops  
came in mighty handy in the headwinds.


Overall - a great day on the bike.  Smooth like a bullet train.

http://picasaweb.google.com/stonehog/KenmoreRide#

Brian
Seattle, WA


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Re: [RBW] Re: fenders