Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 20:37 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up on the cogs. If you've gotten into the grade and cannot easily shift it's better to dismount and spin the pedals as you lift the rear wheel and move the shifter lever to get into a gear you can maintain on the grade. Keep practicing, it will become second nature to anticipate a gear change in advance of the increasing grade of a hill. It's curious, but using the original SunTour Sprint downtube levers as bar end shifters, working 7 speed Hyperglide, I find rear shifting to be substantially more accurate and positive if I shift with pressure on the pedals than if I relieve the pressure entirely. This is quite the opposite of what used to be the case back in the day of 5 and 6 speed straight cut freewheels, which often balked at downshifting under load. No load results in an inaccurate shift with some noise, while shifting with a load results in a KLUNK and a perfectly accurate shift. But even back then, we learned a technique for finessing a shift on a hill, putting in extra effort to gain some momentum, then reducing the pressure and shifting in the lull. This became second nature, and many of us continue to do it even when shifting index shifters and Hyperglide. It's much better, in my opinion, to learn techniques like these than to drop into an unnecessarily low gear at the sight of a hill, as so many used to do back in the day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions snobbery attached to the use of the seatpost. I want to be a snob about something and this seat post is the most affordable way I've ever found. Does anyone know enlighten me about the reason for the snobbery? James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
I saw the SP-60 on the web site (digital catalog). I have not got the paper one yet either. On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions snobbery attached to the use of the seatpost. I want to be a snob about something and this seat post is the most affordable way I've ever found. Does anyone know enlighten me about the reason for the snobbery? James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] In Case You Missed It: New Clip for Large Shoes - Winter Boot Cycling
Bruce Gordon has been making swell half clips for a while. The three original sizes fit most shoes. Now he has added one more that will fit boots and large shoes. I am thinking about getting one for winter riding: http://www.brucegordoncycles.blogspot.com/ If anywhere near as good as the original, definitely Riv level quality. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
Thanks for the answer. I guess I need to go to the closest hills and ride around until I learn how to shift :) Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? 2010/8/17 Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up on the cogs. If you've gotten into the grade and cannot easily shift it's better to dismount and spin the pedals as you lift the rear wheel and move the shifter lever to get into a gear you can maintain on the grade. Keep practicing, it will become second nature to anticipate a gear change in advance of the increasing grade of a hill. Good Luck! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Juhani Laitela juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”. They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when shifting to the biggest cogs (with the smallest chainring). I’m almost afraid the cogs are going to brake or something. I’ve the problem when shifting both to bigger and smaller cogs when riding uphill and using the bigger cogs. My rear derailler is Shimano XT low-normal / rapid rise, cassette Shimano XT 11-34 and chain Shimano XT. Cranks are Sugino XD2 46/36/26. The chain length is like Sheldon Browns recommends. I’ve been trying different strategies on shifting as well as reducing the pedal pressure. The latter almost to the point of loosing my speed altogether. I’d appreciate any help or guidance with my problem. Maybe I’m just too new to the shifters (around 500 miles), but I feel like I’m just not getting it :( J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
With no word on the steel handlebars I decided to order my seat post now and pick up the bars later if they ever arrive. If the seat clip is not up to snuff, this looks interesting and has some good reviews: http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=13716src=froogleUScurrency=USD Not positive it will fit, but I believe Brompton uses standard sizes. On Aug 17, 8:02 am, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: I saw the SP-60 on the web site (digital catalog). I have not got the paper one yet either. On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions snobbery attached to the use of the seatpost. I want to be a snob about something and this seat post is the most affordable way I've ever found. Does anyone know enlighten me about the reason for the snobbery? James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
Oh, and seeing as you have to buy it from the UK and all, there is snob appeal writ large all over that. On Aug 17, 8:02 am, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: I saw the SP-60 on the web site (digital catalog). I have not got the paper one yet either. On Aug 17, 2010, at 5:54 AM, JoelMatthews wrote: I did not receive the catalogue. Is there anything in the catalogue about the steel drop bars from Nitto? On Aug 16, 10:43 pm, James Valiensi valie...@mac.com wrote: Hullo, I've wanted to get the humble seat post (SP-60) that Grant is bringing in from Nitto. In his catalog copy he mentions snobbery attached to the use of the seatpost. I want to be a snob about something and this seat post is the most affordable way I've ever found. Does anyone know enlighten me about the reason for the snobbery? James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Selecting the right gear and sticking with it for the entire hill is one approach. The single speeders here certainly know what that feels like. Another approach that I use is that when you want to shift, pedal much harder to get some extra speed going. Then let way off on the pedal pressure long enough to execute your shift. I'm talking about something like two or three hard strokes and one light stroke to do your shift. This is more necessary on the front than in the back, but its a good policy either way. On Aug 17, 3:52 am, Juhani Laitela juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the answer. I guess I need to go to the closest hills and ride around until I learn how to shift :) Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? 2010/8/17 Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up on the cogs. If you've gotten into the grade and cannot easily shift it's better to dismount and spin the pedals as you lift the rear wheel and move the shifter lever to get into a gear you can maintain on the grade. Keep practicing, it will become second nature to anticipate a gear change in advance of the increasing grade of a hill. Good Luck! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Juhani Laitela juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”. They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when shifting to the biggest cogs (with the smallest chainring). I’m almost afraid the cogs are going to brake or something. I’ve the problem when shifting both to bigger and smaller cogs when riding uphill and using the bigger cogs. My rear derailler is Shimano XT low-normal / rapid rise, cassette Shimano XT 11-34 and chain Shimano XT. Cranks are Sugino XD2 46/36/26. The chain length is like Sheldon Browns recommends. I’ve been trying different strategies on shifting as well as reducing the pedal pressure. The latter almost to the point of loosing my speed altogether. I’d appreciate any help or guidance with my problem. Maybe I’m just too new to the shifters (around 500 miles), but I feel like I’m just not getting it :( J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
That is some great phraseology, jandrews! Thanks. Expect me to recycle it sometimes, maybe many times in the next quarter-score. As should we all! G On Aug 16, 9:19 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: It's retro-fetishizing, period-correct buffoonery. I want to get one too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. No insult intended. For the record, I failed, Spencer succeeded, but even he, who volunteers at a bike soup kitchen in the city and has tons of experience with this style of post, had a struggle with it. I was only preemptively preventing self-flagellation upon failure...or a struggle. James V bought one. James, let's hear how you do with it, OK. Seriously time yourself. You'll need the slip-jaw wrench, a 13 open end (or maybe 14---well, get one that has one on each end), strong fingers, a chalk bag, and a sweat band. G On Aug 16, 10:29 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The buffonery is made all-the-better by the description already insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. The hupe refugees must already feel the sting. On Aug 16, 9:19 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: It's retro-fetishizing, period-correct buffoonery. I want to get one too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SP-60 Snobbery
James V bought one. James, let's hear how you do with it, OK. Seriously time yourself. I am one of the more mechanically challenged bike owners I know. I placed my order today. Plan is to use with a Berthoud saddle - which, for those who do not have one - is already relatively difficult to get on a seat post owing to its thicker leather. A report on my success or lack-thereof will be made in due time. On Aug 17, 12:51 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. No insult intended. For the record, I failed, Spencer succeeded, but even he, who volunteers at a bike soup kitchen in the city and has tons of experience with this style of post, had a struggle with it. I was only preemptively preventing self-flagellation upon failure...or a struggle. James V bought one. James, let's hear how you do with it, OK. Seriously time yourself. You'll need the slip-jaw wrench, a 13 open end (or maybe 14---well, get one that has one on each end), strong fingers, a chalk bag, and a sweat band. G On Aug 16, 10:29 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The buffonery is made all-the-better by the description already insulting you for being an inept mechanic and having to struggle with it and cursing yourself for buying and Riv for selling such a thing. The hupe refugees must already feel the sting. On Aug 16, 9:19 pm, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: It's retro-fetishizing, period-correct buffoonery. I want to get one too.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] For eBay: my entire Rivendell printed materials collection, and more
Hello fellow Rivendell riders. I just started three eBay auctions which may be of interest to you. I hope it's kosher to alert the list with this email. Shortly I will also offer, direct to this RBW list, a whole variety of Rivendell, Brooks, and related items for sale. Thanks for your interest, and for helping me clean out my garage! I am selling my entire Rivendell Bicycle Works printed materials collection. This is quite a treasure trove for Rivendell fans as I have been a member since Day One. I've also been a pack rat when it comes to Rivendell, so here's your chance to learn everything you ever wanted to know about Rivendell and get caught up on original copies of the Rivendell Reader. Everything is in very good to excellent condition. Here's what is included in this one-of-a-kind auction: Rivendell Reader: 41 different editions, Issue Zero through Issue 40, plus 42. Fifteen Rivendell Catalogues Also included in this collection are: Custom Frame Ordering Package from 2002 Multi-page flyers for Rivendell bicycle models Romulus, Rambouillet, Bleriot, and Atlantis Ten different specials flyers from the past 15 years Patch and thank you for attending card from Rivendell Weekend 2006 More details are listed on the Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180548647098 I am also selling a set of Vintage Bicycle Quarterly Magazine back issues (now known as simply Bicycle Quarterly): Issues 3.3 (Spring 2005) through 8.2 (Winter 2009), EXCEPT for 6.3 (Spring 2008), which I can't seem to find. (If I do eventually find it, I will mail it to the auction winner.) All are in very good to excellent condition, with the exception of 3.3, which has a coffee mug stain on the cover. Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180548605612 Finally, I am selling a set of Rouleur Magazine back issues, specifically these issues: 1-5, 7, 8, 10, and 14-18. That's a total of 13 issues. All are in excellent condition. Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=180548622185 - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1.org http://www.adventurecorps.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 10:30 -0700, William wrote: I think what he meant is the general comment that the more pressure you have on the pedals, the harder it is for your drivetrain to execute a shift. Not necessarily so in the case of Hyperglide, which was designed to be able to shift under load, and does so fairly well. Selecting the right gear and sticking with it for the entire hill is one approach. The single speeders here certainly know what that feels like. Another approach that I use is that when you want to shift, pedal much harder to get some extra speed going. Then let way off on the pedal pressure long enough to execute your shift. That's what I described this morning, what we used to call finessing a shift back in the day. With straight cut sprockets it's the only approach. I'm talking about something like two or three hard strokes and one light stroke to do your shift. This is more necessary on the front than in the back, but its a good policy either way. Yes, front shifting under load is a real challenge even with ramps and pins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 12:52 +0200, Juhani Laitela wrote: Did you mean that for the steeper hills, before it gets steep I should figure out a gear that I can maintain the whole hill? So I actually wouldn't shift at all when riding uphill? That is a terrible policy. Shifting on a hill isn't that difficult, and you should learn how to do it. You don't say what sort of equipment you're using, but we managed it back in 1972 with truly crappy equipment. Back then there wasn't a rear derailleur in the world that could hold a candle to your XT. The best of the lot was worse than even the cheapest derailleur you can buy today, and the stiff chains and square cut sprockets positively resisted derailing the chain - and yet we managed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. That made me chuckle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30 lbs so 700 x 32s will work fine for me. :) I weigh 210 (probably closer to 220, judging from the fit of my jerseys, but I don't like to say it) and had a very nice ride this evening on my bike with Panaracer Paselas 700 x 25s pumped to 115 psi. Smooth, comfy, pleasant tires. The didn't seem any less comfortable than my 700 x 28 Paselas as 105 psi or my 26 x 1.25s at 100 psi (also Paselas). I've never been a member of the Phat Tire Phan Klub, other than the spare tire of fat around my middle, but a lot of people seem to really like chubby tires. I did realize 3/4's of the way to Portland on the STP that I'd be SOL if I ripped a sidewall on one of my Hetres, which, it turns out, I nearly did: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/ 4817049422/in/set-72157624011191725/ I think it was basically me, Ryan Nute, Frank Fulton and a buddy of his riding 650b on that ride, and I didn't see any 650b tires at the mechanic's stations. It didn't occur to me to carry a spare tire. In retrospect, yeeks! Glad you got through it without undue difficulties. Having said that, though, My Buddy Doug (he of the optional adventures, which is a number of long and entertaining stories) had a bead failure like yours in the photo except it actually blew out along 2-3 inches. He was about 50 km from the end of a 300K or 400K brevet. Maybe it was the 600. Doesn't matter, only that he had about 50 km to go with a blown-out bead and no spare tire. Nobody else had a spare either and he was pretty close to the middle of not much of anywhere. But Doug did happen to have a tube of superglue he'd put in his pocket for uncertain reasons. He glued the tire sidewall around the bead, put the tire back on, pumped 'er up and rode in to the finish to the amazement of the other randonneurs. I'd heard the story from someone and chuckled because this was just another one of Doug's many optional adventures. A week or two later he and I drove down to watch the Nature Valley Grand Prix stage in Mankato MN and rode our bikes to cut off the race and see them out of town, then rode back in to watch the finish. I had time while riding to ask Doug for the story and he filled me in on it. I asked if he still had the tire so that I could see it; he replied It's still on the front wheel, I'll show you when we get back. A week or two and several bike rides later, mind you. Moral of the story: Superglue. Good stuff. Take some along. Just in case. You know, there is another benefit to 650B I've noticed but forgot to mention in my other post. On many bikes, conversions or built-fors, 650B wheels often have a visual rightness to them that is quite remarkable. To my eyes there is a certain proportion that looks right on different wheel sizes- 700 x 28, 650B x 38, 26 x 1.25. I don't know if there is a consistent mathematical relationship there. I ride a 60 cm 26 wheeled All-Rounder from 1996. No stranger to long head tubes, so 62 cm with a 650B looks downright normal to me. A 63-64 cm frame (the Riv size I'd ride nowadays) with 700Cs still has a pretty long head tube... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 13:24 -0700, Esteban wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Beautiful! Of course, that rear Honjo needs a bit of red to set it off, something like this perhaps: http://luxlow.com/wp-content/uploads/wpsc/product_images/refschphga.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Looking for a ~60cm ride
Hi all, Ever since I sold my Rambouillet, I've lived on my Big Dummy. I love the bike immensely - maybe too much. After putting between 15-20 miles on it every day, my right knee is stuck in mild tendinitis. I've worked a lot on the fit, and do my best to keep the cadence up and downward force minimal - but I can't get it over the hump. Returning to fossil fuels isn't an option right now. So, I'm looking for another ride - one to complement the BD. Ideally I would be buying a 61cm Hilsen or Atlantis. But that doesn't stop me from thinking about other frames from Rivendell or even frames from other builders which make sense. So, if you have a 59,60,61 cm bike that is a do-it-all ride - let me know. I'm less interested in frame/fork combos and more interested in bikes. Good and used is fine with me. I have a tendency to baby nice stuff, and I'd rather start off with something used but loved. Thanks, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Deep Creek Trails?
Hey guys. I am vacationing in the Deep Creek, MD area and want to know if anyone is familiar with any trails in the area. I know where there are hiking trails and mountain biking trails but I am looking for something a bit more casual to do with my wife. If not I can always do some road biking near the lake but with all of the beautiful scenery I figure there has to be a trail somewhere. To connect this back to Rivendell I am going to be riding my Bleriot! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
I like Grant's similar solution to this, found on the Shifting page on rivbike.com: If you're grinding slowly up a hill and suddenly find that you need to shift: 1. Point your bike across the road (traverse) to lessen the slope. 2. Pedal hard for a stroke to get up a small bit of speed. 3. Pedal lightly and shift. It requires a small amount of skill, but the skill comes quickly and stays with you the rest of your life. I find the traversing part makes it easier to keep momentum on a steep hill while shifting. -nathan On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 20:37 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote: When you're shifting while climbing you really need to anticipate a shift and begin changing gears before the grade of the hill becomes steeper. If you're trying to shift with any substantial pressure on the pedals there's too much tension on the chain to allow the derailleur to move the chain up on the cogs. If you've gotten into the grade and cannot easily shift it's better to dismount and spin the pedals as you lift the rear wheel and move the shifter lever to get into a gear you can maintain on the grade. Keep practicing, it will become second nature to anticipate a gear change in advance of the increasing grade of a hill. It's curious, but using the original SunTour Sprint downtube levers as bar end shifters, working 7 speed Hyperglide, I find rear shifting to be substantially more accurate and positive if I shift with pressure on the pedals than if I relieve the pressure entirely. This is quite the opposite of what used to be the case back in the day of 5 and 6 speed straight cut freewheels, which often balked at downshifting under load. No load results in an inaccurate shift with some noise, while shifting with a load results in a KLUNK and a perfectly accurate shift. But even back then, we learned a technique for finessing a shift on a hill, putting in extra effort to gain some momentum, then reducing the pressure and shifting in the lull. This became second nature, and many of us continue to do it even when shifting index shifters and Hyperglide. It's much better, in my opinion, to learn techniques like these than to drop into an unnecessarily low gear at the sight of a hill, as so many used to do back in the day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I have switched over to Shimano indexed bar-end shifters, which have completely solved the problem. I find that Silver shifters work fine on 12-27 cassettes, but for some reason don't like the larger cassettes. I'd suggest you go with the indexed shimano bar end shifters. On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Juhani Laitela juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”. They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when shifting to the biggest cogs (with the smallest chainring). I’m almost afraid the cogs are going to brake or something. I’ve the problem when shifting both to bigger and smaller cogs when riding uphill and using the bigger cogs. My rear derailler is Shimano XT low-normal / rapid rise, cassette Shimano XT 11-34 and chain Shimano XT. Cranks are Sugino XD2 46/36/26. The chain length is like Sheldon Browns recommends. I’ve been trying different strategies on shifting as well as reducing the pedal pressure. The latter almost to the point of loosing my speed altogether. I’d appreciate any help or guidance with my problem. Maybe I’m just too new to the shifters (around 500 miles), but I feel like I’m just not getting it :( J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
Counter point on tire size and aesthetics, http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/4849743094/in/set-72157622761433374/ best shot I have with the fenders on. I can ride anything in my region on or off road with the 42mm tires, they just ride like truck retreads. Although you can crush bottles with the Marathon XR. Noel's bike is beautiful, but I think similar goals can be achieved in 700c On Aug 17, 1:24 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. That made me chuckle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30 lbs so 700 x 32s will work fine for me. :) I weigh 210 (probably closer to 220, judging from the fit of my jerseys, but I don't like to say it) and had a very nice ride this evening on my bike with Panaracer Paselas 700 x 25s pumped to 115 psi. Smooth, comfy, pleasant tires. The didn't seem any less comfortable than my 700 x 28 Paselas as 105 psi or my 26 x 1.25s at 100 psi (also Paselas). I've never been a member of the Phat Tire Phan Klub, other than the spare tire of fat around my middle, but a lot of people seem to really like chubby tires. I did realize 3/4's of the way to Portland on the STP that I'd be SOL if I ripped a sidewall on one of my Hetres, which, it turns out, I nearly did: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/ 4817049422/in/set-72157624011191725/ I think it was basically me, Ryan Nute, Frank Fulton and a buddy of his riding 650b on that ride, and I didn't see any 650b tires at the mechanic's stations. It didn't occur to me to carry a spare tire. In retrospect, yeeks! Glad you got through it without undue difficulties. Having said that, though, My Buddy Doug (he of the optional adventures, which is a number of long and entertaining stories) had a bead failure like yours in the photo except it actually blew out along 2-3 inches. He was about 50 km from the end of a 300K or 400K brevet. Maybe it was the 600. Doesn't matter, only that he had about 50 km to go with a blown-out bead and no spare tire. Nobody else had a spare either and he was pretty close to the middle of not much of anywhere. But Doug did happen to have a tube of superglue he'd put in his pocket for uncertain reasons. He glued the tire sidewall around the bead, put the tire back on, pumped 'er up and rode in to the finish to the amazement of the other randonneurs. I'd heard the story from someone and chuckled because this was just another one of Doug's many optional adventures. A week or two later he and I drove down to watch the Nature Valley Grand Prix stage in Mankato MN and rode our bikes to cut off the race and see them out of town, then rode back in to watch the finish. I had time while riding to ask Doug for the story and he filled me in on it. I asked if he still had the tire so that I could see it; he replied It's still on the front wheel, I'll show you when we get back. A week or two and several bike rides later, mind you. Moral of the story: Superglue. Good stuff. Take some along. Just in case. You know, there is another benefit to 650B I've noticed but forgot to mention in my other post. On many bikes, conversions or built-fors, 650B wheels often have a visual rightness to them that is quite remarkable. To my eyes there is a certain proportion that looks right on different wheel sizes- 700 x 28, 650B x 38, 26 x 1.25. I don't know if there is a consistent mathematical relationship there. I ride a 60 cm 26 wheeled All-Rounder from 1996. No stranger to long head tubes, so 62 cm with a 650B looks downright normal to me. A 63-64 cm frame (the Riv size I'd ride nowadays) with 700Cs still has a pretty long head tube...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:22 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I have switched over to Shimano indexed bar-end shifters, which have completely solved the problem. I find that Silver shifters work fine on 12-27 cassettes, but for some reason don't like the larger cassettes. I'd suggest you go with the indexed shimano bar end shifters. You don't mention how many sprockets. I'm using a 7 speed 13-30 with the Sun Tour Sprints and shifting is just fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visit http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html for photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $52 (nor currently available). My price $20, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Keven's Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear, discolorations and such. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $48 (not currently available). My price $15, plus $5 SH to USA. Acorn Bags Roll Bag with ONE Strap. this is currently only sold with two straps. Good condition with the expected wear marks and discolorations. MSRP: $55. My price: $15, pluls $5 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San Francisco. Two zipper side pockets. Expandalbe size at the bottom. Great attachments. My price $25, plus $5 SH. Nitto lugged quill stem from Rivendell, 12cm length, new and unused. MSRP: $215. My price $125 plus $5 SH to USA. Nitto S84 Way Back Seatpost, 27.2 by 250mm. Tons of setback. From Rivendell. I have TWO for sale. MSRP: $200. My price: $125, plus $5 SH. Rivendell Silver Hupe with red trim. MSRP: $34. My price: $20, plus $5 SH. Brooks Leather Grips. MSRP: $95. My price: $40 plus $5 SH to USS. B17 Champion Special, Titanium
Re: [RBW] For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
Which color is the Berthoud 'banana' bag, black or grey? Thanks, Tom On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visit http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html for photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $52 (nor currently available). My price $20, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Keven's Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear, discolorations and such. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $48 (not currently available). My price $15, plus $5 SH to USA. Acorn Bags Roll Bag with ONE Strap. this is currently only sold with two straps. Good condition with the expected wear marks and discolorations. MSRP: $55. My price: $15, pluls $5 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San Francisco. Two zipper side pockets. Expandalbe size at the bottom. Great attachments. My price $25, plus $5 SH. Nitto lugged quill stem from Rivendell, 12cm length, new and unused. MSRP: $215. My price $125 plus $5 SH to USA. Nitto S84 Way Back Seatpost, 27.2 by 250mm. Tons of setback. From
Re: [RBW] For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:54 -0700, Thomas Haggerty wrote: Which color is the Berthoud 'banana' bag, black or grey? http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/pages/DSC04764.html He's got pix of everything for sale on the page linked below Thanks, Tom On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:43 PM, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visit http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html for photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you
[RBW] Re: For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
I will come out and officially admit that I covet your garage - cangrats on the sale Rob On Aug 17, 2:43 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visithttp://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.htmlfor photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $52 (nor currently available). My price $20, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Keven's Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear, discolorations and such. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $48 (not currently available). My price $15, plus $5 SH to USA. Acorn Bags Roll Bag with ONE Strap. this is currently only sold with two straps. Good condition with the expected wear marks and discolorations. MSRP: $55. My price: $15, pluls $5 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San Francisco. Two zipper side pockets. Expandalbe size at the bottom. Great attachments. My price $25, plus $5 SH. Nitto lugged quill stem from Rivendell, 12cm length, new and unused. MSRP: $215. My price $125 plus $5 SH to USA. Nitto S84 Way Back Seatpost, 27.2 by 250mm. Tons of setback. From
[RBW] Re: For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
Hi, I am interested in the GB Cerf tires and the Riv Banana and Keven's bags. Let me know if they are still available. thanks, Franklyn On Aug 17, 2:43 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visithttp://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.htmlfor photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $52 (nor currently available). My price $20, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Keven's Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear, discolorations and such. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $48 (not currently available). My price $15, plus $5 SH to USA. Acorn Bags Roll Bag with ONE Strap. this is currently only sold with two straps. Good condition with the expected wear marks and discolorations. MSRP: $55. My price: $15, pluls $5 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San Francisco. Two zipper side pockets. Expandalbe size at the bottom. Great attachments. My price $25, plus $5 SH. Nitto lugged quill stem from Rivendell, 12cm length, new and unused. MSRP: $215. My price $125 plus $5 SH to USA. Nitto S84 Way Back
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). On Aug 17, 2:34 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 14:22 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: I have the same setup on several bikes, and had the same problem. Even after a successful shift, the chain skipped a lot when using the three biggest cogs on the rear cassette. On my bikes that have the 11-34 or 12-34 rear cassette, I have switched over to Shimano indexed bar-end shifters, which have completely solved the problem. I find that Silver shifters work fine on 12-27 cassettes, but for some reason don't like the larger cassettes. I'd suggest you go with the indexed shimano bar end shifters. You don't mention how many sprockets. I'm using a 7 speed 13-30 with the Sun Tour Sprints and shifting is just fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Updated FOR SALE list
Wow, I guess I'm everybody's new best friend here since almost everything sold right away after my previous post! Here is what I still have For Sale. I will keep the website slideshow up-to-date, too, to the best of my ability: http://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.html For everyone who has paid by tomorrow morning, I will ship everything tomorrow. I also have five different Rivendell MUSA seersucker shirts, all size large, which I will offer here tomorrow, once I photograph all of them and put the photos online. Here's the update on today's offering, in terms of what is still available: Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastic doodad. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Brooks B17 Champion Special, Black, Titanium Rails Barely Used (perhaps 5 short rides; has just the faintest amount of break-in beginning). Includes a Brooks box (not original), tool, cleaning cloth, and Proofide (applied once, but this can of Proofide is unopened), as pictured below. Current MSRP: $337. My price: $150 plus $8 SH to USA. B17 Champion Special, Titanium Rails, RARE GRAY COLOUR (which I have never seen before). Essentially Unused: just one short ride; NO break- in. No box or anything else included. Current MSRP, except you can buy this in gray as far as I know: $337. See other photos in this slideshow. My price: $225 plus $8 SH to USA. Sidi Cycle Titanium shoes, size 44, really good condition. My price: $75, plus $5 SH to USA. Selle San Marco Regal saddle, Titanium Rails, new and unused, never mounted, red color (as shown). MSRP: $150. My price: $60, plus $5 SH to USA. Nitto S84 Way Back Seatpost, 27.2 by 250mm. Tons of setback. From Rivendell. I have TWO for sale. MSRP: $200. My price: $125, plus $5 SH. Rivendell Silver Hupe with red trim. MSRP: $34. My price: $20, plus $5 SH. Brooks Millbrook bag, excellent condition, barely used. MSRP: $119. Dimensions (cms) W 22 x H 16 x D 15. Made of: Leatherette with real leather trim and a padded nylon liner. It is structured to hold its shape. Modeled after original design, but superior in execution. My price: $50 plus $8 SH to USA. Specialités T.A. Catalog, late 1970s, reprint by Velo Retro 40 pages, All Daniel Rebour drawings of Tevano and T.A. cranks plus bottom bracket, pedals, head set, bags, bottles and tools. English text, a classic catalog! Color cover. MSRP: $10. My price: $4, plus $2 SH to USA. Mafac Catalog, 1978, rerprint by Velo Retro 28 pages with illustrations by Daniel Rebour, covering the Competition, LS, 2000, Racer, Criterium, Cyclo-Tandem, and Jacky brakesets, plus parts and tools. Color cover. MSRP: $6. My price: $2, plus $2 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San Francisco. Two zipper side pockets. Expandable size at the bottom. Great attachments. My price $25, plus $5 SH. Thanks! - Chris Kostman La Jolla, CA http://www.XO-1.org http://www.adventurecorps.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Sale: Rivendell clothes, bags, and gear, Brooks, Nitto, Berthoud, Grand Bois, Velo-Retro Reprints, and More
Hate to rain on your request Franklyn but they went fast. I already tried. Kevans bag might still be there though. On Aug 17, 6:04 pm, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote: Hi, I am interested in the GB Cerf tires and the Riv Banana and Keven's bags. Let me know if they are still available. thanks, Franklyn On Aug 17, 2:43 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Rivendell Riders. I have a lot of stuff I'd like to clear out, so here's my For Sale list. Please respond to me directly, not the whole list! Thanks! Please visithttp://www.adventurecorps.com/forsale/index.htmlfor photos, details, and prices. First come, first served. Contact me to confirm availability. If I still have it, and you ask first, it's yours. Then you will have 24 hours to submit payment via Paypal. Possibly available for pick-up in La Jolla, CA. Prices are already very reasonable, so I am not too interested in bargaining, unless you think I am way out of line. Here's what I have for sale, but please consult the link above for photos! • Four new, unused 650B Grand Brois Cypres tires. All are unused and still in their original wrapping. Two are the original version (white label) in 30mm width and two are the current (green label) 32mm width. All are wire bead, not folding. They've been in my garage, out of the sun, since purchase. These are great riding tires which retail for $58 each. My price: All four for $100 plus $15 SH to USA (shipped unfolded in a wheel box). Bonus included with this sale: one more 30mm and two more 32mm tires of the same models with light mileage, for a total of SEVEN tires for $100! • Two lightly used 700c by 28mm Grand Bois Cerf tires. MSRP: $58. My price: $40 for the pair, plus $5 SH to USA. • Two 26 by 1'4 XCR Road tires for 26 mountain bike wheels with black sidewalls and dark gray tread. Lightly used. Not currently available. MSRP: $35 each. My price: $20 for the pai, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Wool Gloves with Dots, Full Finger, never worn, still stuck together with that little plastid doodad. (TWO PAIR available.) These are currently available from Riv. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $12. My price: $8 per pair, plus $3 SH to USA. OR FREE to anyone who spends over $100. Rivendell MUSA shorts, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $43. My price: $35, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell MUSA pants, never worn, still in package, size medium, . Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. These are currently available in a different color combo. For Sale here is the original color combo. I have had mine in a box since purchase. MSRP: $64. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell wool tweed vest, never work, still in package, size Large. Fits me: 175# and 5'11.5. (I have TWO of these for sale.) These are not currently available. I have had mine in a box since purchase in December 2005. MSRP: $72. My price: $65, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Lil Joe Baggins saddle bag. Never used. Mint condition. I don't recall the cost. See other photo in this slideshow for other side. My price: $100, plus $10 SH. Rivendell Baggins handlebar bag. Sorry, I have lost track of model names over the years. This is app. 15 wide and 10 tall. It's in nearly perfect condition, with one very tiny tear and slight discoloration in one small spot on the bottom. Designed to hang from teh h'bars. A photo of the bask side follows in this slideshow. My price: $50, plus $5 SH to USA. The original Rivendell banana bag. Still 100% functional. Clearly worn and stained, but has a lot of miles left. My price: $10 plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Nigel Smythe Mini Bar Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $52 (nor currently available). My price $20, plus $5 SH to USA. Rivendell Keven's Bag. It measures app. 8 across. Clean with excellent straps. Has the expected wear and tear, discolorations and such. I have included several photos in this slideshow so you can assess the condition. MSRP was $48 (not currently available). My price $15, plus $5 SH to USA. Acorn Bags Roll Bag with ONE Strap. this is currently only sold with two straps. Good condition with the expected wear marks and discolorations. MSRP: $55. My price: $15, pluls $5 SH to USA. VERY Large Wedge Pack by Jandd Mountaineering of Santa Barbara. 12 long and up to 7 wide. VERY GOOD condition with just one rub mark. Has shock cords to attach to rear dropouts to stabilize the load. A really nice bag which I used once for a one-week solo bike tour from Seattle to San
Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar e nd “Silver Shifters”
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 16:11 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). I asked because I couldn't make it work satisfactorily with an 8 speed cassette, but found 7 speed's wider spacing to make all the difference. The 8 that didn't work was an 11-28. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Western Mass
Hi All, I'm moving to Western Mass next month and wanted to know if anyone on the list has any tips, insights, whathaveyou to offer to a newbie in the area. Especially interested in winter riding and road conditions. I know this is a bit OT but I do have a Quickbeam that I hope to introduce to the area. Feel free to comment offline if it seems appropiate. Thanks in advance. Alford -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
Having been on that ride, I can attest to the bike's beauty. Unfortunately, don't have a good photo of it to add. Yes, a reflector would be a nice add on, but the integrated light makes up for that in my opinion. Part of me wishes for a larger 650B bike again. (Esteban has the one I tried to get to work). And do have some regrets not buying a 61cm Bleriot instead. All in all, though am quite content with my other choices. And really, when it comes to being different, my larger frame 26 wheel bike is just fine. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126...@n05/4532886734/in/set-72157623760222305/\ Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 17, 3:24 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. That made me chuckle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30 lbs so 700 x 32s will work fine for me. :) I weigh 210 (probably closer to 220, judging from the fit of my jerseys, but I don't like to say it) and had a very nice ride this evening on my bike with Panaracer Paselas 700 x 25s pumped to 115 psi. Smooth, comfy, pleasant tires. The didn't seem any less comfortable than my 700 x 28 Paselas as 105 psi or my 26 x 1.25s at 100 psi (also Paselas). I've never been a member of the Phat Tire Phan Klub, other than the spare tire of fat around my middle, but a lot of people seem to really like chubby tires. I did realize 3/4's of the way to Portland on the STP that I'd be SOL if I ripped a sidewall on one of my Hetres, which, it turns out, I nearly did: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/ 4817049422/in/set-72157624011191725/ I think it was basically me, Ryan Nute, Frank Fulton and a buddy of his riding 650b on that ride, and I didn't see any 650b tires at the mechanic's stations. It didn't occur to me to carry a spare tire. In retrospect, yeeks! Glad you got through it without undue difficulties. Having said that, though, My Buddy Doug (he of the optional adventures, which is a number of long and entertaining stories) had a bead failure like yours in the photo except it actually blew out along 2-3 inches. He was about 50 km from the end of a 300K or 400K brevet. Maybe it was the 600. Doesn't matter, only that he had about 50 km to go with a blown-out bead and no spare tire. Nobody else had a spare either and he was pretty close to the middle of not much of anywhere. But Doug did happen to have a tube of superglue he'd put in his pocket for uncertain reasons. He glued the tire sidewall around the bead, put the tire back on, pumped 'er up and rode in to the finish to the amazement of the other randonneurs. I'd heard the story from someone and chuckled because this was just another one of Doug's many optional adventures. A week or two later he and I drove down to watch the Nature Valley Grand Prix stage in Mankato MN and rode our bikes to cut off the race and see them out of town, then rode back in to watch the finish. I had time while riding to ask Doug for the story and he filled me in on it. I asked if he still had the tire so that I could see it; he replied It's still on the front wheel, I'll show you when we get back. A week or two and several bike rides later, mind you. Moral of the story: Superglue. Good stuff. Take some along. Just in case. You know, there is another benefit to 650B I've noticed but forgot to mention in my other post. On many bikes, conversions or built-fors, 650B wheels often have a visual rightness to them that is quite remarkable. To my eyes there is a certain proportion that looks right on different wheel sizes- 700 x 28, 650B x 38, 26 x 1.25. I don't know if there is a consistent mathematical relationship there. I ride a 60 cm 26 wheeled All-Rounder from 1996. No stranger to long head tubes, so 62 cm with a 650B looks downright normal to me. A 63-64 cm frame (the Riv size I'd ride nowadays) with 700Cs still has a pretty long head tube...- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
While I like and use the Silver shifters on my Sam Hillborne, that bike has a 7 speed freewheel. Did try it with an eight speed cassette and did not like the shifting characteristics. Seemed to my fingerbrain that the correct spot was right between clicks on the the shifter, so nothing was really and truly smooth. Again, that's me. And with seven it is indeed heaven. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 17, 6:44 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 16:11 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: Steve: my post referred to my experience with 9 sp cassettes. I do use Silvers on 7 speed freewheels (13-28) and 9 speed 12-27's, but I've never tried a wide range 7 speed (like your 13-30). I asked because I couldn't make it work satisfactorily with an 8 speed cassette, but found 7 speed's wider spacing to make all the difference. The 8 that didn't work was an 11-28. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction shifting with Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”
On two different bikes I use Silver downtube shifters with 7 speed IRD freewheels and Campy Mirage and a Champ rear derailleur. I can't believe how well this works in comparison to 70's-80's top end Campy (Record/Super Record). I stil have to ease off a little to down shift while climbing but, as already stated, some of us have been doing that all along and can't stop even when using indexed shifing. On Aug 16, 11:27 am, Juhani Laitela juhani.lait...@gmail.com wrote: I’ve some difficulties with friction shifting with my Dia Compe bar end “Silver Shifters”. They work fine when I’ve my bike in repair stand and also when riding on flat or downhill, but when climbing uphill, especially with some load and on steeper hill, the rear cogs really make noise when shifting to the biggest cogs (with the smallest chainring). I’m almost afraid the cogs are going to brake or something. I’ve the problem when shifting both to bigger and smaller cogs when riding uphill and using the bigger cogs. My rear derailler is Shimano XT low-normal / rapid rise, cassette Shimano XT 11-34 and chain Shimano XT. Cranks are Sugino XD2 46/36/26. The chain length is like Sheldon Browns recommends. I’ve been trying different strategies on shifting as well as reducing the pedal pressure. The latter almost to the point of loosing my speed altogether. I’d appreciate any help or guidance with my problem. Maybe I’m just too new to the shifters (around 500 miles), but I feel like I’m just not getting it :( J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Western Mass
I decided to reply to the whole list, because everyone should visit and ride Western Mass at some point! I lived in Northampton in the late 90s during grad school, and loved every minute of it. This is coming from a San Diego native. There are lots of rail trails and some great dirt roads through the farming communities like Hadley. When I was there, 3-speeds ruled the day... but the Berkshires are calling. Nothing too rocky in my experience. 35mm Paselas should go far. enjoy it! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 17, 6:15 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: D2R2! But maybe not on a quickbeam.http://www.franklinlandtrust.org/randonnee.html On Aug 17, 7:14 pm, alford jalfor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm moving to Western Mass next month and wanted to know if anyone on the list has any tips, insights, whathaveyou to offer to a newbie in the area. Especially interested in winter riding and road conditions. I know this is a bit OT but I do have a Quickbeam that I hope to introduce to the area. Feel free to comment offline if it seems appropiate. Thanks in advance. Alford -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
What a difference 10 months make. Last October I ordered my Sam, and being between the 52 and the 56, I ordered the 56, partly because my 19 year old other bike (Fisher Sphinx monster cross) is decidedly too small (17!), and Grant was encouraging me to go big. But I also live in Thailand, and while 700C stuff I like is hard to impossible to find here (it's either ultra-light racing stuff, or cheap tank-like hybrid stuff), I figured that if I did have an emergency, I could find *some* 700C rim or tire here locally (and I have already had two rims destroyed by cars here). But at the time, though I would have been interested in 650B, the word Hetre did not yet speed up my pulse. I didn't know what it was, or how special. I also used to put 28s on my Fisher for road rides, and 45s for mtn bike rides, and hadn't discovered the immense pleasure of mixed-surface rides. Now I have, and for each ride I choose between 42mm semi knobbies (on the Fisher) and 33mm JBs or 35mm Paselas (on the Sam) depending on expected conditions. I'd really like something that combines the advantages of both. So I am putting my money where my mouth is, and will start a new thread to see how many of us would pre-pay for a 700C Pari-Moto or Hetre? However, on Monday for our weekly local Rivride, we did one of my favorite 50k loops, which involves a lot of pavement, but also at least 10k of dirt, some of which is rather steep and technical. I had decided before that my 42mm knobbies were better for this ride, and had I known we would go this route, I probably would have picked the Fisher. But I found that the JBs performed really well. There was one steep climb where I momentarily lost traction on the rear wheel, but I recovered and made it to the top. I didn't dismount any more often or descend more slowly than my companions on fatter tires. Not to say that a 700C PariMoto wouldn't have been better, but I found that I do enjoy riding a tire that is a bit too skinny for the conditions, as it forces me to become fully present in what I am doing, for a zen-like cycling experience. :) Here's a photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4903469472/ Cheers, Gernot On Aug 18, 7:18 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Having been on that ride, I can attest to the bike's beauty. Unfortunately, don't have a good photo of it to add. Yes, a reflector would be a nice add on, but the integrated light makes up for that in my opinion. Part of me wishes for a larger 650B bike again. (Esteban has the one I tried to get to work). And do have some regrets not buying a 61cm Bleriot instead. All in all, though am quite content with my other choices. And really, when it comes to being different, my larger frame 26 wheel bike is just fine. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126...@n05/4532886734/in/set-721576237... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 17, 3:24 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. That made me chuckle. Perhaps by the time I order my custom randoneause there will be lightweight, supple 700 x 38 tires, or I will have lost 30 lbs so 700 x 32s will work fine for me. :) I weigh 210 (probably closer to 220, judging from the fit of my jerseys, but I don't like to say it) and had a very nice ride this evening on my bike with Panaracer Paselas 700 x 25s pumped to 115 psi. Smooth, comfy, pleasant tires. The didn't seem any less comfortable than my 700 x 28 Paselas as 105 psi or my 26 x 1.25s at 100 psi (also Paselas). I've never been a member of the Phat Tire Phan Klub, other than the spare tire of fat around my middle, but a lot of people seem to really like chubby tires. I did realize 3/4's of the way to Portland on the STP that I'd be SOL if I ripped a sidewall on one of my Hetres, which, it turns out, I nearly did: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/ 4817049422/in/set-72157624011191725/ I think it was basically me, Ryan Nute, Frank Fulton and a buddy of his riding 650b on that ride, and I didn't see any 650b tires at the mechanic's stations. It didn't occur to me to carry a spare tire. In retrospect, yeeks!
[RBW] Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Add me to that list. :) Best, Andrew On Aug 17, 2010, at 8:13 PM, Earl Grey wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, I'm in. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Yup. I'll take either with the Pari-Moto my first choice. On Aug 17, 10:13 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Western Mass
My daughter goes to school in Noho. I haven't had the chance to ride up there yet but am dying to. Such beautiful country and so much dirt. Hopefully I can spend an extended time up there before she graduates. On Aug 17, 10:01 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: I decided to reply to the whole list, because everyone should visit and ride Western Mass at some point! I lived in Northampton in the late 90s during grad school, and loved every minute of it. This is coming from a San Diego native. There are lots of rail trails and some great dirt roads through the farming communities like Hadley. When I was there, 3-speeds ruled the day... but the Berkshires are calling. Nothing too rocky in my experience. 35mm Paselas should go far. enjoy it! Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 17, 6:15 pm, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.com wrote: D2R2! But maybe not on a quickbeam.http://www.franklinlandtrust.org/randonnee.html On Aug 17, 7:14 pm, alford jalfor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm moving to Western Mass next month and wanted to know if anyone on the list has any tips, insights, whathaveyou to offer to a newbie in the area. Especially interested in winter riding and road conditions. I know this is a bit OT but I do have a Quickbeam that I hope to introduce to the area. Feel free to comment offline if it seems appropiate. Thanks in advance. Alford -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Two of the Hetre model, please. On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Cycletex clifwrightpho...@yahoo.comwrote: Yup. I'll take either with the Pari-Moto my first choice. On Aug 17, 10:13 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA One man's religion is another man's belly laugh. --Robert A. Heinlein -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
I would buy some to try. They would have to prove durable for me to keep buying them, but I'd definitely try at least a set. On Aug 17, 7:13 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTT/WTS: Paul Racer Brakes for Racer Medium Brakes
Just clarifying that is on set? or front and back at that price? On Aug 17, 1:33 pm, Steve yngp...@yahoo.com wrote: I realize that this is a long shot, but I figured it's worth a shot... I've got a pair of NIB Paul Racer Brakes in Silver Anodized that I'd like to trade for a pair of the shorter reach Racer Medium brakes in any finish. Alternatively, I'm willing to sell the pair for $149 + shipping. Thanks, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Two of each! - Chris Kostman On Aug 17, 9:38 pm, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I would be in for a set of both, the catch is being the one to make it happen. The current candidates are either focused on other tire sizes or content with the current offerings where durability trumps supple speedy tires. I will go out an a limb and say I would like to be the one to bring these to market, but the learning curve is steep, and I am still at the bottom of the hill. And it may be, well it is, bad form to talk about that in this arena. More later, hopefully Rob On Aug 17, 8:13 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Want some 700C Hetres or Pari-Motos? Sign up here
Rob, if you make this happen, please don't keep the good news from us on account of etiquette. :) Gernot On Aug 18, 11:38 am, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: I would be in for a set of both, the catch is being the one to make it happen. The current candidates are either focused on other tire sizes or content with the current offerings where durability trumps supple speedy tires. I will go out an a limb and say I would like to be the one to bring these to market, but the learning curve is steep, and I am still at the bottom of the hill. And it may be, well it is, bad form to talk about that in this arena. More later, hopefully Rob On Aug 17, 8:13 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Note, I have absolutely no power to make this happen, but if there are enough of us who would pre-order such a beast, perhaps someone with actual power would make this happen. Please specify if you have a preference for a Pari-Moto (38mm, ultra-light) or a Hetre (42mm, slightly thicker tread, but still very supple). Personally, I'd be happy to prepay $120 for a pair of either of them. Cheers, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RIV status of 650; and big frames .
Eric's old Kogswell really gets me (and the groceries and kids) around! 650B city bike, I've found, takes the cake (along with the lumps and bumps). http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4590765200/ If Anthony at Longleaf can pull together reliable deliver of his version of the P/R, there should be good, cheap 650B options out there. Riv is in the game for good -- just not for the big sizes. The Hetres Pari-Motos have really pushed the discussion of wheel size over to discussion of tires. In my estimation, I think like this: Harsh = any 23mm race tire Fast = (700c) Challenge Parigi-Roubiax; (650B) Pari-Moto; (650B) Hetre. Here, 700c has its own sporty charms, but the volume of the 650B offerings is an added bonus All-rounder = (700c) Jack Brown Greens; (700c) Paselas in 32 or 35; (650B0 Col de La Vie or maybe the new Somas. Invincible = any Schwalbe tractor tire When I ordered my Ebisu randonneuse, I went with 700c. It was a tough decision, but I wanted to run skinnier tires for near-excusive road riding. How about everyone just get one of each? Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 17, 8:06 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: What a difference 10 months make. Last October I ordered my Sam, and being between the 52 and the 56, I ordered the 56, partly because my 19 year old other bike (Fisher Sphinx monster cross) is decidedly too small (17!), and Grant was encouraging me to go big. But I also live in Thailand, and while 700C stuff I like is hard to impossible to find here (it's either ultra-light racing stuff, or cheap tank-like hybrid stuff), I figured that if I did have an emergency, I could find *some* 700C rim or tire here locally (and I have already had two rims destroyed by cars here). But at the time, though I would have been interested in 650B, the word Hetre did not yet speed up my pulse. I didn't know what it was, or how special. I also used to put 28s on my Fisher for road rides, and 45s for mtn bike rides, and hadn't discovered the immense pleasure of mixed-surface rides. Now I have, and for each ride I choose between 42mm semi knobbies (on the Fisher) and 33mm JBs or 35mm Paselas (on the Sam) depending on expected conditions. I'd really like something that combines the advantages of both. So I am putting my money where my mouth is, and will start a new thread to see how many of us would pre-pay for a 700C Pari-Moto or Hetre? However, on Monday for our weekly local Rivride, we did one of my favorite 50k loops, which involves a lot of pavement, but also at least 10k of dirt, some of which is rather steep and technical. I had decided before that my 42mm knobbies were better for this ride, and had I known we would go this route, I probably would have picked the Fisher. But I found that the JBs performed really well. There was one steep climb where I momentarily lost traction on the rear wheel, but I recovered and made it to the top. I didn't dismount any more often or descend more slowly than my companions on fatter tires. Not to say that a 700C PariMoto wouldn't have been better, but I found that I do enjoy riding a tire that is a bit too skinny for the conditions, as it forces me to become fully present in what I am doing, for a zen-like cycling experience. :) Here's a photo:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4903469472/ Cheers, Gernot On Aug 18, 7:18 am, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: Having been on that ride, I can attest to the bike's beauty. Unfortunately, don't have a good photo of it to add. Yes, a reflector would be a nice add on, but the integrated light makes up for that in my opinion. Part of me wishes for a larger 650B bike again. (Esteban has the one I tried to get to work). And do have some regrets not buying a 61cm Bleriot instead. All in all, though am quite content with my other choices. And really, when it comes to being different, my larger frame 26 wheel bike is just fine. http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126...@n05/4532886734/in/set-721576237... Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Aug 17, 3:24 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Just to return to aesthetics for to a moment, there's just something right about 650B with fenders on a larger frame. Here's Noel on his aforementioned 63 (riding with Rob on his 60cm QB): http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/3828775512/ Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Aug 16, 6:45 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 6:27 PM, Rob Harrison wrote: On Aug 16, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Tim McNamara wrote: Bingo. 650B is a weird even unheard-of size for 99.163% of the US bike-buying public. People will be afraid they'll be stranded with a bike they can't get tires for. LOL, well, being part of the 0.837% is where I have resided for most of my working life as a green architect, so I guess it's only fitting I ride a 62cm 650B bicycle. That made me chuckle.
