Re: [RBW] Re: WTB 1994 Bridgestone MB-1

2010-09-20 Thread Michael Williams
Hey Ryan, thanks for the heads up. These are a little small for me though.
but thanks again, Mike

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 3:27 PM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is a MB-1 and 2 MB-3's on Seattle Craiglist


 http://seattle.craigslist.org/search/bik?query=BridgestonesrchType=AminAsk=maxAsk=

 On Sep 19, 10:42 am, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 they want to sell. I know its a long
  shot, but giving it a try. 22or 23 frame, whatever was the largest
  that year. Thanks, Mike

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[RBW] Re: WTB 1994 Bridgestone MB-1

2010-09-20 Thread Ken Yokanovich
Micheal, I know that it's not THE answer that you are looking for AND
it would be A LOT more expensive, but you could contact Rivendell and
have a new custom made in the STYLE of an MB-1.  You could get one of
the new Pacenti fork crowns up front, some really fantastic
craftsmanship, and a bicycle designed just for you.  It might seem a
bit extravagant for an off-roader, but boy... Sure would be a fun
project.

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 Anyone out there have a 1994 MB-1 they want to sell. I know its a long
 shot, but giving it a try. 22or 23 frame, whatever was the largest
 that year. Thanks, Mike

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

2010-09-20 Thread Ken Yokanovich
On Sep 19, 8:52 pm, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 (What, don't any of you just sit and stare at your bike or frame now
and then?)

Actually, quite often.  I will often admire the subtle differences in
the lugs.  I guess that makes me a SERIOUS but proud bike geek.

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Shimano 7-speed indexed mountain bike thumbshifters

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
We can cancel this request, thanks... I think I may have it resolved.
After consulting Sheldon Brown (God bless this man's legacy!), he gave
me (yet another) great shifter tip. (The first shifter tip I got from
him a few years ago was to run a low-normal derailleur with bar-end
shifters so that the shifters move in the same direction (down for
downshifts, up for upshifts), which as it turns out I much prefer.

His latest tip: Suntour index shifters pull less cable than the
Shimano, so using a Suntour shifter on a Shimano 6-speed freewheel
would cause an undershift... However, the same 6-speed shifter on a
Shimano 7-speed freewheel pulls close to the right amount of cable
(according to Sheldon), and there is actually room for a 7th shift on
the 6-speed Suntour shifters, using the limiter screw to unlimit the
derailleur movement.

SO... as I install my blingy Riv bullmoose bars on my Bombadil this
week (just waiting for some final cable-swap hardware), I'll shortly
be installing (6-speed) Suntour XC LS 7000 thumb shifters to
(hopefully) work well with my 7-speed Shimano-compatible freewheel.
Fingers crossed, in Sheldon we trust.

If all else fails, these shifters have a friction option.

BB

On Sep 15, 8:19 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
wrote:
 ... for my Bombadil... I already have beautiful M700 friction
 shifters, but would like to have the option of indexing.  I'd prefer
 to use older Shimano mountain shifters than Paul thumbies.

 Looking to buy (or possibly swap a set of vintage Suntour XC friction
 thumb shifters).

 Thanks,
 BB

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[RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

2010-09-20 Thread Mike
Beautiful bike. Thanks for sharing photos. Looks like a great set-up.

--mike

On Sep 19

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Re: [RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

2010-09-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks, Beth and Jim -- very nice.

On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 On Sep 19, 11:30 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Photo, please!

 Oh. Right, sorry about that.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4982920303/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/4983518560/

 And, um, Steve -- yeah, the 650b thought has crossed my mind.
 Just so you know.
 ..::grin::..
 meanwhile, the LL is getting stripped of parts and I'm going to, well,
 sit and stare at it for awhile and see what it says to me.
 (What, don't any of you just sit and stare at your bike or frame now
 and then?)
 Beth

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

2010-09-20 Thread Mike
So Beth, what about setting up the LL with 35s without fenders and
just ride it on nice days when rain isn't predicted (cue laughtrack,
Beth lives in Portland, OR). I've had a similar issue with my
Rambouillet. Right now it is grudgingly sporting 32s and  waiting for
fenders. For the most part I've found 32s to work pretty well for me
but there is something about 35s that seems a little better. I don't
know maybe it's some of the stuff Grant mentioned in Tire Tips (http://
www.rivbike.com/article/components/tire_tips).

After looking at the pictures of your bikes, I say definitely set the
LL up with drops and 35s without fenders. Just give it a shot.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

2010-09-20 Thread Sean Whelan
David-
What a beautiful bike...Have you ever posted a review of the Berthoud saddle? I 
have been thinking about trying one, but I haven't read any real world reviews.

Cheers and thanks,
Sean Whelan

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From: David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com
Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, September 19, 2010, 6:37 PM

Rivendellers,

For two years, I've promised to scrub the beausage off my bike and
take some updated pictures.  I have finally done so, and the pictures
are here:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/

After washing away the crust, I rubbed everything down with Pledge
wipes (actually the Target equivalent) as recommended by Joe Bell, and
the paint glistens.

Thanks for your patience,
David Sprunger
Fargo, ND

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[RBW] Re: accidentally perfect - now what?

2010-09-20 Thread Beth H
Laughing. The only bike that doesn't have fenders is my race bike.

Okay, seriously, drop bars are a possible direction; but I am also
considering moustache bars (with the world's shortest stem, something
like a Nitto Tech 60) and maybe turning this into an unencumbered sort
of let's pretend I can go fast bike. I'm not sure 35's would fit
without fender, unless I can find an older set of single-pivot Dia-
Compes or similar. Those dual-pivot brakes take up a TON of vertical
room.

There is no real rush on this. I am enjoying the All-Rounder, and also
having a good time getting ready for cross season on my -- Warning,
non-Riv content! -- Redline Monocog (yup, singlespeed).

Happy riding --Beth

On Sep 20, 6:50 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:
 So Beth, what about setting up the LL with 35s...

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[RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

2010-09-20 Thread Beth H
Thanks for posting the photo. I LOVE that burnt honey-mystard color!
(What year is your Riv? It looks a little newer than mine; I didn't
have as many colors to choose from in '98 and they weren't offering a
wide palette of custom colors yet.)

 From: David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com
 Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

 http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

2010-09-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:


 Devils slide is really what I want to avoid.

And for good reason! I rode it last fall, at around 3 in the afternoon
on a weekday, going south. I thought I was going to die. Never again.


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[RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

2010-09-20 Thread doug peterson
When is the tunnel at Devil's Slide due to be opened?

dougP

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 On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Way Rebb grayc...@mac.com wrote:

  Devils slide is really what I want to avoid.

 And for good reason! I rode it last fall, at around 3 in the afternoon
 on a weekday, going south. I thought I was going to die. Never again.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seven day out-n-back.

2010-09-20 Thread Anne Paulson
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:00 AM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 When is the tunnel at Devil's Slide due to be opened?

Not sure, but I don't think it solves the problem for cyclists. The
tunnel starts halfway up the climb. The first half of the climb is
still narrow and twisting.

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[RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

2010-09-20 Thread Kentileguy
Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup  seat,
but I'm still not 100% right on it. There are a lot of things I like
about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639152271/
The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
 Thanks, Ken

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Re: [RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

2010-09-20 Thread John Blish
Hi Ken,

Might you be interested in a 59 Romulus?  I realize from what you are saying
that my 59 might be a smidge bigger than what you are looking for but just
thought I would inquire.

Best,

John

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
 that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup  seat,
 but I'm still not 100% right on it. There are a lot of things I like
 about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
 Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
 I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
 components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
 good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
 a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics here

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639152271/
 The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
  Thanks, Ken

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[RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75

2010-09-20 Thread Adam Kimball
Trying this again..

Brand new Paul Racer brake caliper of the center-mount variety.
Silver -- regular polish.  Cheap way to get into a center-pull brake -
get one now, and get one later.

$75 or best offer.

-Adam

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Re: [RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75

2010-09-20 Thread Rene Valbuena
is this a pair?


-Original Message-
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To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] FS: Paul Racer brake caliper (new) -- $75

Trying this again..

Brand new Paul Racer brake caliper of the center-mount variety.
Silver -- regular polish.  Cheap way to get into a center-pull brake -
get one now, and get one later.

$75 or best offer.

-Adam

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Re: [RBW] FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

2010-09-20 Thread Tom Norwood
Hi Ken
Let me know if you would be interested in a 58 cm Kogswell P.  The P was a
virtual copy of the Ram.


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[RBW] style central cutest couple.

2010-09-20 Thread jamison brosseau
the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
see the bikes.
fame is going to my head and stuff. http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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[RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread William
Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
Do you care one way or the other?

On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

2010-09-20 Thread William
The Bombadil is kind of a quirky city bike 

Please!

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 the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
 bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
 prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
 see the bikes.
 fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Clayton Scott
My quickbeam does have LL. I care a little, but not enough to file them off.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:11 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] style central cutest couple.

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Norris
What, no pics of the cute girlfriend?  What are they putting in the water 
there?  A dozen pics of the bikes (nice though they might be) and none of the 
girl?  

--Eric

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:06 PM, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com 
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 the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
 bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
 prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
 see the bikes.
 fame is going to my head and stuff. http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht
 
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
If you use a proper skewer properly, you'll be fine.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 5:11 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread James Warren

For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
about the regular Roms and Redwoods.

I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
that feature.


-Original Message-
From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
Do you care one way or the other?

On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Horace
The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.


On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:


 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.

 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not
 had that feature.


 -Original Message-
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?
 
 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Rob Harrison
My Saluki does not have them. I guess I'm ok with that. Never thought  
to look until now.


Rob in Seattle


On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:11 PM, William wrote:


Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.


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Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread James Warren

So it was just onRom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.
-Original Message- From: Horace Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips? The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.
On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure about the regular Roms and Redwoods.I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had that "feature".


-Original Message-From: William tapebu...@gmail.comSent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PMTo: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips. My wife's YvesGomez.I forget. I'll check. I noticed in the youtube video onhow to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that BigBomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips. Does yours?Do you care one way or the other?On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because Itake the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack. Onthe other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the biketightly enough. What a dilemma!--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.--You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Funny I JUST noticed that this evening... My (Waterford) Bombadil does
NOT have em... But I ain't worried... and frankly I like the look of
the fork dropout without them...

On Sep 20, 7:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
 example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
 this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
 bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
 avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
 From: Horace
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
 Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


 -Original Message-
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?
 
 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread doug peterson
My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them  it
was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked open and
closed.

dougP

On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has another 
 example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was sensitive to 
 this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant talking about it a 
 bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some reason it couldn't be 
 avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the bike.-Original Message-
 From: Horace
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did not.On 
 Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


 -Original Message-
 From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
 Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
 
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?
 
 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Jamison:

Hey why ain't your cute girlfriend being noticed on her new red
Stumpy?  :)
Se-iously... I'm 'fraid the dude prolly don't unnerstan the Bomba... u
dig?



On Sep 20, 7:24 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 What, no pics of the cute girlfriend?  What are they putting in the water 
 there?  A dozen pics of the bikes (nice though they might be) and none of the 
 girl?  

 --Eric

 Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 20, 2010, at 4:06 PM, jamison brosseau jamison.bross...@gmail.com 
 wrote:



  the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
  bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
  prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
  see the bikes.
  fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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[RBW] Re: style central cutest couple.

2010-09-20 Thread doug peterson
Quirky city bike just shows the versatility of what can be done with
a Rivendell.  And all these years we heard about country bike.  At
least the guy zeroed in on the lugs  got into the details.  Just
caught the cool pedals in the last photo.  Color doesn't really go
with the orange but maybe that's part of the quirky city thing?

Congrats on getting photo'd.

dougP

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wrote:
 the dude from my local lbs just ran onto the street to tell me my
 bombadil and my girlfriends bridgestone track were photoged and put on
 prolly is not probably.  you have to scroll down a bit, but you will
 see the bikes.
 fame is going to my head and stuff.http://tinyurl.com/ykcpsht

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread JoelMatthews
I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?

On Sep 20, 7:45 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 My Atlantis does not have them.  I've only had 1 bike with them  it
 was a small job with a file to remove them.  IMHO, all the fiddling
 around with the skewer nut every time the wheel is removed leaves
 plenty of room for error in getting the correct tension.  I support
 tours on occassion and see many riders needing assistance with this
 situation.  The best skewer levers are the ones marked open and
 closed.

 dougP

 On Sep 20, 4:44 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:



  So it was just on Rom/Reds and QB's, unless I'm wrong and someone has 
  another example, but I'm pretty sure that's it. (For some reason, I was 
  sensitive to this matter and it caught my attention.) I remember Grant 
  talking about it a bit at the time, ideally not wanting them, but for some 
  reason it couldn't be avoided, and oh well, they don't ruin the 
  bike.-Original Message-
  From: Horace
  Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:38 PM
  To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?
  The regular Roms had them. Rambouillets from the same time period did 
  not.On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 4:28 PM, James 
  Warrenjimcwar...@earthlink.netwrote:
  For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
  about the regular Roms and Redwoods.
  I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not 
  had that feature.

  -Original Message-
  From: William tapebu...@gmail.com
  Sent: Sep 20, 2010 4:11 PM
  To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  Subject: [RBW] Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

  Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
  Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
  how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
  Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
  Do you care one way or the other?

  On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
  take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
  the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
  because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
  tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Bruce
No, when cold enough...





From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 20, 2010 8:09:48 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

I use bolt axles on my bikes.  Maybe they should turn blue when tight
enough?


  

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[RBW] Rivs at Bristol Rhythm n' Roots

2010-09-20 Thread Leslie
On Sunday afternoon, was in Bristol (right on State St, on the state
line of TN and VA), at Rhythm n' Roots http://www.bristolrhythm.com/ .

The folks from Mountain Sports Ltd were there w/ a booth, and had a
Hillborne and an Atlantis there.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5006973486/in/pool-64927...@n00/



-L


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Re: [RBW] Re: finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

2010-09-20 Thread Bill Gibson
Someone's thinking about a paint job... :-)

It's great to ride a bike that is good and deserves new paint, even if it
doesn't happen right away.

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Beth H periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Thanks for posting the photo. I LOVE that burnt honey-mystard color!
 (What year is your Riv? It looks a little newer than mine; I didn't
 have as many colors to choose from in '98 and they weren't offering a
 wide palette of custom colors yet.)

  From: David Sprunger sprun...@gmail.com
  Subject: [RBW] finally cleaned and photographed my Rivendell

  http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/riv1334/

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Peter Pesce
I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
Taiwan Sam has them.
Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Beth H
LL, ca. 1999; A-R, circa 1999: Nope; and nope again.

I do seem to recall that, back in the day, Riv and company offered
something they called a Paralysis Prevention Device. You had to ask
for one with your frame if you wanted it, and it wasn't mentioned a
whole lot, presumably to avoid freaking people out.
Beth

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto Campee Front Rack + panniers

2010-09-20 Thread ejg
Hi all
I'm sure its a long shot, but I'm looking for a Nitto Campee front
rack (the one with the removeable lowrider pannier supports) and a
couple of Ortlieb panniers for it.

Thanks in advance
EJG

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread Jim M.
My Legolas has them. So does my QB but they have been mentioned. I
find them mildly annoying, but I would have assumed any insurance
company would be insisting on them at this point.



On Sep 20, 4:28 pm, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 For some reason, the QB's had them and so did the Canti-Roms. I'm not sure 
 about the regular Roms and Redwoods.

 I think that outside of those mentioned above, other Rivendells have not had 
 that feature.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread PATRICK MOORE
My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
 I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
 Taiwan Sam has them.
 Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

 On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
 Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
 how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
 Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
 Do you care one way or the other?

 On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
 take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
 the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
 because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
 tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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[RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread William
My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.



On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!



 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:
  I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
  Taiwan Sam has them.
  Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.

  On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
  Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
  how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
  Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
  Do you care one way or the other?

  On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
  take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
  the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
  because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
  tightly enough.  What a dilemma!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your Rivendell have lawyer lips?

2010-09-20 Thread cyclotourist
All this variation begs the question:  Why?  Are they truly the result of an
industry class action suit?  If so, why do some (Quickbeams) have them and
others (Sams) don't?

Curious brains want to know (no e's in that sentence).



On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:11 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 My wife's Yves Gomez does have THE LIPS.



 On Sep 20, 8:05 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
  My Waterford Sam does not have them. And, it is for sale!!!
 
 
 
  On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   I will have to go check, but I'm pretty sure my last of the line
   Taiwan Sam has them.
   Doesn't bother me, I don't have the front wheel off much.
 
   On Sep 20, 7:11 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
   Neither my Hillborne nor my Bombadil has lawyer lips.  My wife's Yves
   Gomez.I forget.  I'll check.  I noticed in the youtube video on
   how to install the Nitto Big Front rack that it look like that Big
   Bomba with the winged fork tips does have lawyer lips.  Does yours?
   Do you care one way or the other?
 
   On one hand I'm glad that my Hillborne doesn't have them, because I
   take the front wheel off really often to put it on the roof rack.  On
   the other hand, I'm nervous that my Hillborne doesn't have them,
   because I'm afraid that the roof rack QR skewer won't hold the bike
   tightly enough.  What a dilemma!
 
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[RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Initial build pics on Flickr... 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
brake cables.

Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
here on.

Peace,
BB

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Re: [RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread cyclotourist
Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Initial build pics on Flickr...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

 I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
 Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
 downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
 setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
 should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
 brake cables.

 Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
 expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

 I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
 Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

 This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
 pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
 Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
 deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
 Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
 here on.

 Peace,
 BB

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread Michael_S
yesseree.. very nice.. esp withthose Fat Franks... that is the Bomb!

one minor comment.maybe switch out those v brakes for some nice
polished Pauls canti's??

~Mike~

On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com





  wrote:
  Initial build pics on Flickr...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

  I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
  Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
  downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
  setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
  should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
  brake cables.

  Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
  expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

  I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
  Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

  This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
  pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
  Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
  deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
  Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
  here on.

  Peace,
  BB

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[RBW] Internal 3-speed QB question

2010-09-20 Thread James Warren

Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the following 
idea in mind. In the following pictures:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg

the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is no 
cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack so 
that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front 
derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the bike 
has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a pants-guard. 
This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use 
of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter 
in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front, 
for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an 
internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it 
work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it takes 
up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?

I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of derailleur 
hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any pointers would be 
appreciated if it's not too much trouble. 

Thanks,
Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread Rob Harrison

Yah man! Looks *great* with the cream Fat Franks!

Rob in Seattle


On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:17 PM, cyclotourist wrote:


Love, love, love the black w/ cream!


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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
It looks black in the pics, but it's actually dark green... which in
dim light looks awesome (like it's black), then in direct light it
looks forest green.

Michael, I toiled over brakes, and I've been running cantis as my
preferred brakes for years...  Despite this, (and I love the look of
the Pauls) I am actually thrilled with these brakes and am sure I made
the right choice.

BB

On Sep 21, 12:42 am, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 yesseree.. very nice.. esp withthose Fat Franks... that is the Bomb!

 one minor comment.maybe switch out those v brakes for some nice
 polished Pauls canti's??

 ~Mike~

 On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:



  Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

  On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com

   wrote:
   Initial build pics on Flickr...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

   I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
   Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
   downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
   setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
   should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
   brake cables.

   Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
   expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

   I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
   Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

   This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
   pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
   Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
   deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
   Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
   here on.

   Peace,
   BB

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread William
Isn't it dark dark dark green?

On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

 On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com



  wrote:
  Initial build pics on Flickr...
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

  I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
  Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
  downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
  setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
  should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
  brake cables.

  Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
  expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

  I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
  Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

  This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
  pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
  Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
  deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
  Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
  here on.

  Peace,
  BB

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[RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Jim:

I actually did something similar this past winter, except with an 8-
speed Shimano Alfine internal-geared hub and a front derailleur (to
run a 2x8 setup).  I used the Alfine chain tensioner (which costs
about $25 and the spring is super strong, ensuring good chain tension
with the front derailleur shifts.  I actually had a triple crank, but
stuck to using 2 of the 3 chainrings in the front (use of the small
crank would have produced a gear so low it could climb a tree and
would over-torque the internals of the hub (according to Shimano).
Having use of the outer chainring provided a nice range of cruising
gears.  I'm sure this 3-speed setup will work just fine, and if you've
got a derailleur to spare, great.  Otherwise consider the Alfine
tensioner... it's the best one I've used, and I've tried a few.  (And
BTW the Alfine hub is superior to any other internal geared hub I've
owned, from Sturmey-Archer to SRAM to Shimano Nexus... The Alfine is
the best.

Peace,
BB

On Sep 21, 12:45 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
 I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the 
 following idea in mind. In the following pictures:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg

 the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is 
 no cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack 
 so that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front 
 derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the 
 bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a 
 pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
 What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use 
 of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter 
 in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front, 
 for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an 
 internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it 
 work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it 
 takes up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?

 I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of 
 derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any 
 pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.

 Thanks,
 Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

2010-09-20 Thread tomm
Would you be interested in parting with just the frame, fork and
headset?

Also, you have prompted me to begin my full-hearted selling of my Sam
Hillborne.  Its a 60 cm, double top-tubed version, Waterford,  500
miles.  Wonderful construction, finish, etc. I was convinced it
wouldn't be too big for me but it is and I can't get the correct
posture / riding position on this thing I'm used to, no matter what I
try. Its my fault, I should have been more thoughtful of the whole
thing.  $800 for frame / fork / headset, plus shipping.

I'm actually in the market for a 57-59 cm Hilsen or Ram (or 59 cm
Kogswell P/R G2) so I had to respond, even though I think the 60 cm SH
would be too big for you and likely not the right frame if you're
looking for a Ram or another Hilsen.  If we get the correct
orientation of mis-fitting frame owners, maybe we can do a multi-owner
multiple-frame trade - NBA style.

I can send along photos if interested.

Tom



On Sep 20, 3:56 pm, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues
 that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup  seat,
 but I'm still not 100% right on it. There are a lot of things I like
 about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack
 Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
 I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the
 components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very
 good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider
 a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics 
 herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639...
 The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
  Thanks, Ken

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[RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Hah!  More like dark dark green.

On Sep 21, 12:55 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Isn't it dark dark dark green?

 On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:



  Love, love, love the black w/ cream!

  On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com

   wrote:
   Initial build pics on Flickr...
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/

   I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
   Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
   downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
   setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
   should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
   brake cables.

   Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
   expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.

   I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
   Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...

   This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
   pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
   Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
   deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
   Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding from
   here on.

   Peace,
   BB

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RE: [RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

2010-09-20 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
What color? 

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From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of tomm
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:48 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS/FT 59 cm Homer Hilsen

Would you be interested in parting with just the frame, fork and headset?

Also, you have prompted me to begin my full-hearted selling of my Sam 
Hillborne.  Its a 60 cm, double top-tubed version, Waterford,  500 miles.  
Wonderful construction, finish, etc. I was convinced it wouldn't be too big for 
me but it is and I can't get the correct posture / riding position on this 
thing I'm used to, no matter what I try. Its my fault, I should have been more 
thoughtful of the whole thing.  $800 for frame / fork / headset, plus shipping.

I'm actually in the market for a 57-59 cm Hilsen or Ram (or 59 cm Kogswell P/R 
G2) so I had to respond, even though I think the 60 cm SH would be too big for 
you and likely not the right frame if you're looking for a Ram or another 
Hilsen.  If we get the correct orientation of mis-fitting frame owners, maybe 
we can do a multi-owner multiple-frame trade - NBA style.

I can send along photos if interested.

Tom



On Sep 20, 3:56 pm, Kentileguy ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Still halfheartedly trying to sell my Hilsen. I had some fit issues 
 that I think I've worked out,  with a different cockpit setup  seat, 
 but I'm still not 100% right on it. There are a lot of things I like 
 about Homer; stability, comfort and that soft ride from the 33mm Jack 
 Browns. The reality is I think I would be happier on a smaller frame.
 I'm asking $2200 for the complete bike, plus shipping. All of the 
 components are in excellent condition and the frame itself is in very 
 good condition, with a few chips here and there. I would also consider 
 a  trade for a 57cm Hilsen or a 58 cm Ram. Pics 
 herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/kentileguy/5009436948/in/set-72157624639...
 The seat and pedals are not included in the sale.
  Thanks, Ken

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Re: [RBW] Re: BBs Bombadil Build

2010-09-20 Thread cyclotourist
Whatever the color, it looks great!!!

On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hah!  More like dark dark green.

 On Sep 21, 12:55 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
  Isn't it dark dark dark green?
 
  On Sep 20, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
   Love, love, love the black w/ cream!
 
   On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Montclair BobbyB 
 montclairbob...@gmail.com
 
wrote:
Initial build pics on Flickr...
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/16461...@n04/sets/72157625000944598/
 
I have the DaVinci cable splitters installed, ready to swap out the
Noodles for the Nitto Bullmoose bars; just waiting on a set of
downtube cable adjusters (which bolt on/off with each handlebar
setup), and am also waiting on a spare set of brake noodles, which
should arrive in a day or 2; then I won't even need splitters for the
brake cables.
 
Once I set up the Bullmoose bars with the splitters and noodles, I
expect I will be able to swap between the 2 bar setups in 5 minutes.
 
I have 2 sets of Schwalbe tires; the black Big Apples and the Creme
Fat Franks.. both look and ride excellent...
 
This weekend I will do the final handlebar wrap (a Harlequin accent
pattern) with whipping and shellac finish.  I also have a Nitto Big
Rack for the rear, and a set of SKS fenders... Then aside from
deciding which handlebar and/or seat bag to get, I will be DONE!!!
Just add dirt roads and sunshine... Less building and more riding
 from
here on.
 
Peace,
BB
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question

2010-09-20 Thread James Warren

Thanks Bobby,
That's good to know. I would love to try the 8-speed Alfine, but I don't think 
it will fit in the QB's 120 mm space in back, and I'm trying to avoid spreading 
the frame. The 3-speed on the other hand could have a 120 spacing and with my 3 
chainrings shifting, I'd still get a good gear range if it all works.

I too wanted to try the Alfine tensioner, but it appears that it attaches to a 
frame's rear derailleur hanger which the QB lacks. So I'm thinking of just 
continuing to use the dummy rear derailleur I have on there now. Do you know if 
they have an Alfine tensioner that doesn't need a derailleur hanger like rear 
derailleurs that clamp inside the dropouts?

I didn't consider that too small a ring up front could create too much torque 
for the internals of the hub. What two chainring sizes did you use? In wonder 
if my plan to use a 24tooth granny in front would cause a problem. The whole 
point of this project is to try to get a low as low as 24F-28R.

Basically, I love how the QB rides, bit I don't like single-speeds. I'm trying 
to get the QB ride with  the abilities of a multi-gear shifter. I've succeeded 
in having it be a wide-ranging 3x1, but now I'm getting greedy, because my 
current lowest low is 24F-22R. It's weird. I have other great bikes, a few 
Rivendells even, that I'm really happy with, but there is just something about 
that Quickbeam.

Thanks again,
Jim

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From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com
Sent: Sep 20, 2010 10:03 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Internal 3-speed QB question

Jim:

I actually did something similar this past winter, except with an 8-
speed Shimano Alfine internal-geared hub and a front derailleur (to
run a 2x8 setup).  I used the Alfine chain tensioner (which costs
about $25 and the spring is super strong, ensuring good chain tension
with the front derailleur shifts.  I actually had a triple crank, but
stuck to using 2 of the 3 chainrings in the front (use of the small
crank would have produced a gear so low it could climb a tree and
would over-torque the internals of the hub (according to Shimano).
Having use of the outer chainring provided a nice range of cruising
gears.  I'm sure this 3-speed setup will work just fine, and if you've
got a derailleur to spare, great.  Otherwise consider the Alfine
tensioner... it's the best one I've used, and I've tried a few.  (And
BTW the Alfine hub is superior to any other internal geared hub I've
owned, from Sturmey-Archer to SRAM to Shimano Nexus... The Alfine is
the best.

Peace,
BB

On Sep 21, 12:45 am, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
 I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the 
 following idea in mind. In the following pictures:

 http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg

 the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is 
 no cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of 
 slack so that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a 
 front derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so 
 the bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a 
 pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
 What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through 
 use of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal 
 shifter in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in 
 the front, for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't 
 use an internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still 
 have it work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so 
 that it takes up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in 
 front?

 I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of 
 derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any 
 pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.

 Thanks,
 Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] Internal 3-speed QB question

2010-09-20 Thread CycloFiend
on 9/20/10 9:45 PM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I'm looking for information on Shimano 3-speed internal hubs with the
 following idea in mind. In the following pictures:
 
 http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/rr36_pg27.jpg
 
 the rear derailleur shown is not functioning as a rear derailleur. There is no
 cable attached, and the derailleur is only there to take up a lot of slack so
 that I can have vastly different chainrings up front shifted with a front
 derailleur. Right now, the bike has three rings in front, 24-36-48, so the
 bike has three gears total. (In the photo, there are two gears with a
 pants-guard. This set-up has worked fine whether as a 1-speed or 2.)
 What I would like to do is get a bit of gear-shifting in the back through use
 of an internal 3-speed hub. I would like to make the bike an internal shifter
 in the rear but still retain its 3-chainring derailleur system in the front,
 for a total of 9 gears (3x3). Is there any reason that I couldn't use an
 internal 3-speed hub, like Shimano's, but while using this hub, still have it
 work with the dummy derailleur mounted as shown in the photos so that it takes
 up slack and allows me to still do wide range shifting in front?
 
 I realize this is a bit complicated (due to rear spacing and lack of
 derailleur hanger in rear) and I'm trying to research it myself, but any
 pointers would be appreciated if it's not too much trouble.

You've already done most of the heavy lifting on that system.

Since you are sticking with a coastable setup, there shouldn't really be
that much of an issue.  You really just have the same setup, with differing
ratios which don't change any chain tension or angle.

There is the spacing issue - 120 mm, which may nix the Shimano 3 speed (and
I think those were coaster brake models, but I'm not sure).  But, S-A stuff
can be found that way, to be sure.  There's probably no reason you couldn't
run a 7 or 8 speed hub, if it was spaced correctly.

It would be problematic to run the derailleur with a fixed hub like the S-A
S3X. Derailleurs/tensioning devices and fixed setups are generally thought
to be Bad Ideas.  AASHTA -
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/singlespeed.html#tension

You're really just using the arm of the rear derailleur for tension.  And
for the range you are running, I don't think you could drop back to a Paul
Melvin. But, if you widen your gearing aft, maybe you could run narrower up
front...

(For those looking to mount a derailleur on a tab-less fork end, you just
need to find one of these -  http://tinyurl.com/derhanger )

It seems like you are really most of the way there, right now.

- Jim

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