[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, TA Crank Set with RIngs, TA Bottom Bracket

2011-03-05 Thread boomer
Please send  PM for pics.

On Mar 5, 11:19 pm, manueljohnacosta 
wrote:
> Do you have pictures of the handlebar bag?
>
> On Mar 5, 9:36 pm, boomer  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Cleaning out the garage.  Before I eBay these, I thought I'd put them
> > up here.   Anyone getting ready for spring and  long bike rides?   PM
> > for pics.
>
> > 1)  Baggins Banana Seat Bag  $65
>
> > If you're here, you know about these bags.  Lots of beausage on this
> > one.
>
> > 2)  Acorn Med Seat Bag in tan.  Great condition $75
>
> > Great condition.  Near new.  This one is actually between a medium and
> > large.  It holds a lot.
>
> > 3)  Acorn Small Handle Bar Bag in Black.  $70
>
> > I don’t see this one offered on their website anymore.  I never did
> > use this one.  This could also work as a saddle bag if you have the
> > proper loops on your saddle.
>
> > 4)  TA Cyclotouriste Crank set with 46/30 chainrings & TA pedal
> > washers. 175 mm crank arm length.  $175.
> >  Fits standard threaded pedals.  Beautiful, classic design.  VO is
> > kinda making new versions of these.
> > These are no longer made and difficult to find.   This was purchased
> > about a year ago from old, new stock.  They have been used for about
> > 100 miles and show some chain shift scratches on the inside of the
> > larger chain ring.  Otherwise, they still shine.  No wear on the teeth
> > can be seen.  I swapped this out for a triple, so I no longer need
> > this set.
>
> > 5)  TA Axix steel BB, Italian thread, 116 mm width.  Only 100 miles
> > use.  It was used for the above mentioned crank set. $50
>
> > Shipping to lower 48 US states is included.  Open to offers, if I'm
> > asking too much for some of this.
> > Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Fwd: YouTube - DBC 200K 3-5-11

2011-03-05 Thread manueljohnacosta
awesome video!

On Mar 5, 8:24 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Video from today's 200K Davis Bike Club brevet, which I rode on my heavy and 
> somewhat slow Pachley Guvnon (Riv content: lugged steel, leather saddle, wool 
> jersey).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEXES47ADjY
>
> Enjoy!
>
> --Eric
> campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bags, TA Crank Set with RIngs, TA Bottom Bracket

2011-03-05 Thread manueljohnacosta
Do you have pictures of the handlebar bag?

On Mar 5, 9:36 pm, boomer  wrote:
> Cleaning out the garage.  Before I eBay these, I thought I'd put them
> up here.   Anyone getting ready for spring and  long bike rides?   PM
> for pics.
>
> 1)  Baggins Banana Seat Bag  $65
>
> If you're here, you know about these bags.  Lots of beausage on this
> one.
>
> 2)  Acorn Med Seat Bag in tan.  Great condition $75
>
> Great condition.  Near new.  This one is actually between a medium and
> large.  It holds a lot.
>
> 3)  Acorn Small Handle Bar Bag in Black.  $70
>
> I don’t see this one offered on their website anymore.  I never did
> use this one.  This could also work as a saddle bag if you have the
> proper loops on your saddle.
>
> 4)  TA Cyclotouriste Crank set with 46/30 chainrings & TA pedal
> washers. 175 mm crank arm length.  $175.
>  Fits standard threaded pedals.  Beautiful, classic design.  VO is
> kinda making new versions of these.
> These are no longer made and difficult to find.   This was purchased
> about a year ago from old, new stock.  They have been used for about
> 100 miles and show some chain shift scratches on the inside of the
> larger chain ring.  Otherwise, they still shine.  No wear on the teeth
> can be seen.  I swapped this out for a triple, so I no longer need
> this set.
>
> 5)  TA Axix steel BB, Italian thread, 116 mm width.  Only 100 miles
> use.  It was used for the above mentioned crank set. $50
>
> Shipping to lower 48 US states is included.  Open to offers, if I'm
> asking too much for some of this.
> Thanks.

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[RBW] FS: Bags, TA Crank Set with RIngs, TA Bottom Bracket

2011-03-05 Thread boomer
Cleaning out the garage.  Before I eBay these, I thought I'd put them
up here.   Anyone getting ready for spring and  long bike rides?   PM
for pics.

1)  Baggins Banana Seat Bag  $65

If you're here, you know about these bags.  Lots of beausage on this
one.

2)  Acorn Med Seat Bag in tan.  Great condition $75

Great condition.  Near new.  This one is actually between a medium and
large.  It holds a lot.

3)  Acorn Small Handle Bar Bag in Black.  $70

I don’t see this one offered on their website anymore.  I never did
use this one.  This could also work as a saddle bag if you have the
proper loops on your saddle.

4)  TA Cyclotouriste Crank set with 46/30 chainrings & TA pedal
washers. 175 mm crank arm length.  $175.
 Fits standard threaded pedals.  Beautiful, classic design.  VO is
kinda making new versions of these.
These are no longer made and difficult to find.   This was purchased
about a year ago from old, new stock.  They have been used for about
100 miles and show some chain shift scratches on the inside of the
larger chain ring.  Otherwise, they still shine.  No wear on the teeth
can be seen.  I swapped this out for a triple, so I no longer need
this set.

5)  TA Axix steel BB, Italian thread, 116 mm width.  Only 100 miles
use.  It was used for the above mentioned crank set. $50

Shipping to lower 48 US states is included.  Open to offers, if I'm
asking too much for some of this.
Thanks.

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[RBW] Fwd: YouTube - DBC 200K 3-5-11

2011-03-05 Thread Eric Norris
Video from today's 200K Davis Bike Club brevet, which I rode on my heavy and 
somewhat slow Pachley Guvnon (Riv content: lugged steel, leather saddle, wool 
jersey).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEXES47ADjY 

Enjoy!

--Eric
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
www.wheelsnorth.org

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[RBW] Re: Sigh. Busted compression washers on the Silvers. sigh.

2011-03-05 Thread Justin August
What I'm gathering is that all I need is a lockring and a bunch of
spacers. Basically.

Going to try tomorrow. When I'm less……..lubricated than I am now.
-Justin

On Mar 5, 8:28 pm, doug peterson  wrote:
> If you're at the hardware store getting the washers as shown in the
> Riv video, also get some star washers if they have them.  I used them
> in place of the lock washer as they seem to hold better.
>
> Riv mentions that the gray plastic washer is a weak link, would be
> metal in a perfect world, but it ain't gonna happen so the alternate
> washer kit is a work around.  It works.
>
> dougP
>
> On Mar 5, 4:11 pm, Minh  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Are you talking about the little grey disks? these are a known
> > limitation of the silvers shifters, they're great but not perfect.
> > rivendell has a kit, but i think you can also piece together your own
> > kit at the hardware store, here's the video that shows what you're
> > looking forhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_6CoVjnvo
>
> > i wish they were metal (i have a set of suntour cyclones that are like
> > this), but then again my sprint shifters w/ plastic washers are still
> > holding together after 10 years, and your's broke after it fell, just
> > saying ;)
>
> > On Mar 5, 5:23 pm, Justin August  wrote:
>
> > > Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
> > > reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
> > > cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
> > > plastic, etc….
>
> > > My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
> > > something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
> > > washer?
>
> > > Or am I boned?
>
> > > Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable 
> > > fray)http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-721576245...Hide
> > >  quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Sigh. Busted compression washers on the Silvers. sigh.

2011-03-05 Thread doug peterson
If you're at the hardware store getting the washers as shown in the
Riv video, also get some star washers if they have them.  I used them
in place of the lock washer as they seem to hold better.

Riv mentions that the gray plastic washer is a weak link, would be
metal in a perfect world, but it ain't gonna happen so the alternate
washer kit is a work around.  It works.

dougP

On Mar 5, 4:11 pm, Minh  wrote:
> Are you talking about the little grey disks? these are a known
> limitation of the silvers shifters, they're great but not perfect.
> rivendell has a kit, but i think you can also piece together your own
> kit at the hardware store, here's the video that shows what you're
> looking forhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_6CoVjnvo
>
> i wish they were metal (i have a set of suntour cyclones that are like
> this), but then again my sprint shifters w/ plastic washers are still
> holding together after 10 years, and your's broke after it fell, just
> saying ;)
>
> On Mar 5, 5:23 pm, Justin August  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
> > reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
> > cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
> > plastic, etc….
>
> > My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
> > something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
> > washer?
>
> > Or am I boned?
>
> > Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable 
> > fray)http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-721576245...-
> >  Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Silver Bar-End Shifters

2011-03-05 Thread doug peterson
I don't think they are front / rear specific.  I find that having the
D-rings on the outside makes them easier to adjust friction while
riding.  Both the pods & levers are clearly marked "L" and "R".  Now I
know one reason.

dougP

On Mar 5, 4:37 pm, Minh  wrote:
> As i'm thinking about Silver Shifters, i was looking at the videos and
> i realize that i've had my silver shifters mounted reverse for the
> last 10 years.  What i mean is i have them facing out instead of
> facing in.  I'm guessing you want to face them in to protect them from
> falls etc.
>
> But now i'm wondering, are friction shifters front/rear specific?  I
> realize i've swapped them now, but never had a concern till i noticed
> today :)

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[RBW] Silver Bar-End Shifters

2011-03-05 Thread Minh
As i'm thinking about Silver Shifters, i was looking at the videos and
i realize that i've had my silver shifters mounted reverse for the
last 10 years.  What i mean is i have them facing out instead of
facing in.  I'm guessing you want to face them in to protect them from
falls etc.

But now i'm wondering, are friction shifters front/rear specific?  I
realize i've swapped them now, but never had a concern till i noticed
today :)

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[RBW] Re: Sigh. Busted compression washers on the Silvers. sigh.

2011-03-05 Thread Minh
Are you talking about the little grey disks? these are a known
limitation of the silvers shifters, they're great but not perfect.
rivendell has a kit, but i think you can also piece together your own
kit at the hardware store, here's the video that shows what you're
looking for http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_6CoVjnvo

i wish they were metal (i have a set of suntour cyclones that are like
this), but then again my sprint shifters w/ plastic washers are still
holding together after 10 years, and your's broke after it fell, just
saying ;)

On Mar 5, 5:23 pm, Justin August  wrote:
> Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
> reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
> cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
> plastic, etc….
>
> My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
> something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
> washer?
>
> Or am I boned?
>
> Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable 
> fray)http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-721576245...

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[RBW] Re: Best non-Nitto/VO seatpost?

2011-03-05 Thread Phil Brown

The 2 bolt Campy Record i tough to beat and plenty are available used,
esp. in 27.2.
Phil Brown
Have plenty of them myself in Oakland, Calif.

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[RBW] Re: Sigh. Busted compression washers on the Silvers. sigh.

2011-03-05 Thread Tim McNamara
Which compression washer where now? 


On Mar 5, 2011, at 4:23 PM, Justin August wrote:

> Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
> reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
> cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
> plastic, etc….
> 
> My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
> something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
> washer?
> 
> Or am I boned?
> 
> 
> Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable fray)
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-72157624548021380/

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[RBW] Sigh. Busted compression washers on the Silvers. sigh.

2011-03-05 Thread Justin August
Took out the Bleriot with Hetres for a spin and while hanging out
reading a book it fell over and now one of my compression washers is
cracked. Annoying, can't believe Riv specced a part with fragile
plastic, etc….

My question: Do I wait for VO to get more in stock or can I use
something else? Can I use a leather washer instead of a compression
washer?

Or am I boned?


Pics of the Bleriot: (ignore my front derailler cable fray)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/justinaugust/5500751630/in/set-72157624548021380/

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread William
The other place I've seen that fork tip is in the Riv Video on youtube
showing how to install a Big Front Rack.  The bike was a big Bombadil
and it had those fork tips.  My Bombadil doesn't have those winged
tips.  Wingtips?

On Mar 5, 12:20 pm, jandrews_nyc  wrote:
> I do see the abrupt curve of that fork ,but it maters not at all to
> me.  But...what's up with the forks ends? They're crazythey look
> ancient Roman.

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread jandrews_nyc
I do see the abrupt curve of that fork ,but it maters not at all to
me.  But...what's up with the forks ends? They're crazythey look
ancient Roman.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread James Warren

And as for function, I'm riding a Hillborne right now with the exact same 
gearing: 24-36-46 in front and the amazing 12-36 9-speed in the back, and my 
experience is that this gearing on this bike is outstanding.


On Mar 5, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Marty wrote:

> First bid up, and much better photos loaded. The color is even better
> in these views. Well done Riv!
> 
> http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/337
> 
> Marty
> 
> On Mar 5, 8:54 am, EricP  wrote:
>> Another opinion - am 6' with an 89cm pbh and ride a 56cm fist
>> generation Sam Hillborne.  That was after a lot of discussion and
>> worry on my part.
>> Photo of bike from last summer -http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc
>> 
>> On the new generation of Hillborne bikes, I could (and probably would)
>> ride a 60cm frame.  Have test ridden one and it works.  Quite well, in
>> fact.
>> 
>> For comparison, was recently able to straddle a Hillborne from the
>> same time period as mine.  Wow, that was a big bike.  Could barely
>> reach the bars as it was setup.  Would probably need a 60mm stem to be
>> comfortable.  Maybe even a 50.
>> 
>> Do happen to like the look of this latest Hillborne, but the color
>> seems awfully close to Surly's "Utility Blue" from a couple of years
>> ago.  Not a bad thing.  Just very similar to my eyes.
>> 
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>> 
>> On Mar 4, 7:21 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Thanks for all your input! I live in the bay area, so maybe I'll try to do 
>>> a test ride at RBW before I decide to bid.
>> 
>>> -nathan
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
 Hi!
>> 
 To me it seems you're right at the spot where there's no clear winner
 without considering various factors.
>> 
 If you like high bars (say, 2-3cm or more above the saddle) and intend
 to avoid truly rugged terrain, I'd say the 60cm would be the default
 choice.
>> 
 If you like lower-than-that bars or ride in the hooks or want to
 accommodate rough stuff or have short arms or intend to ride thinly-
 shod a lot, then I'd say the 56cm would work better.
>> 
 Of course, if you get a chance to straddle a 60cm set up roughly "your
 way", you'll know one way or the other pretty quickly.
>> 
 I'm 6' tall, have a 90 PBH, like *very* high bars (5-10 cm above the
 saddle), ride bad roads and "improved" trails (no out-in-the-middle-of-
 the-field or boulder-skipping stuff), use 700x40 or 700x38 tires
 @60-70psi, and *never* let the weather stop me (the 700x40 tires have
 240 studs). My 60cm Sam is near perfect. A 61cm would certainly be
 even better. A 62 would work either even better or not at all. The
 64cm is definitely a no-go.
>> 
 Here are various pictures of my bike. I do like my handlebars high.
 But the frame felt fine for me even with the Bullmoose 150mm bars as
 pictured. (I lately have chosen to ride with those bars on the RBW-
 sold steerer extender. That is a *sweet* ride! But I'll switch 'em
 back some too.)
>> 
 (Try to ignore the "rampant" look in the photos. I've since cut the
 kickstand down a bit. It looks *way* more normal, even with the really
 high bars.)
>> 
 http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/albatross-bike.jpg
 http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/bullmoose-bike.jpg
 http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/moustache-bike.jpg
 http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/noodle-bike.jpg
>> 
 (All the configurations have a Dirt Drop 100 stem.)
>> 
 Yours,
 Thomas Lynn Skean
>> 
 On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> It's beautiful. I'm tempted… but is a 56cm Sam too small for me? I'm 
> 5'11", 88 PBH, SH usually around 77-78. Would that result in a lotta 
> seatpost showing / would a 60cm Sam fit me better?
>> 
> -nathan
>> 
> On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, scott wrote:
>> Holy Smokes! I think the Sam Riv is auctioning right now is the nicest
>> color I've seen in a long time. It makes the single color paint job
>> pop! I would be thrilled if the new batch of Sam's were this color. In
>> other words, GRANT and Crew, please use this color on the new
>> Sams!
>> 
>> Scott "Counting pennies for a Hillborne" Lutz
>> 
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread rperks
I am suprised no one has said anything about the fork on this bike
yet.  With many here having a sharp eye on the bend, this one appears
rather abrupt even for waterford.  The last auction had a wonderful
smoothe bend.

I am sure it does exactly what it is supposed to, just curious.

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread Michael_S
Just saw the close-ups... it's a very nice color. I think I've heard
it called Pigeon blue. Very close to the color of this nice Capricorn
that everyone loved @ 2010 NAHBS .
http://www.flickr.com/photos/shortpants51/4387746266/in/set-72157621182949858/
With a pearl on top I'm sure it will be gorgeous in the sun too.
Those bars are not for me but the rest of the bike is perfect.

~Mike

On Mar 5, 7:46 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I think the color and that is going to be Soma's call.
>
> That blue is gorgeous, so what ever it ends up on will be out of the park!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 7:37 AM, Bruce  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
I think the color and that is going to be Soma's call.

That blue is gorgeous, so what ever it ends up on will be out of the park!


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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread Bruce
The "Amos?"






From: cyclotourist 
 
maybe there's another bike in the works from Riv-Works.


  

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread William
newenglandbike says:

It doesn't seem like a guarantee that the SH will get that color.
the post says:   "It's a color we're considering for something, and
wanted to see it on a bike, so had Wford make the bike, paint it
thusly".

William retorts:

I was reading this part of the post where Grant says "It is better in
real life than it is here, and too good to use only on this bike, so
if you buy this one you'll be the first, but not the last."  I read
'bike' to mean 'instantiation of the Sam Hillborne'.  Clearly
newenglandbike reads 'bike' to mean 'model'.

I now see it from that perspective, thanks.

On Mar 5, 7:09 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> IIRC, the city bike was going to be all black, so maybe there's another bike
> in the works from Riv-Works.
>
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:59 AM, newenglandbike wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 4, 1:13 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > Grant's wording on this bluish one includes a virtual guarantee that
> > > there will be more Sams made in this color.
>
> > It doesn't seem like a guarantee that the SH will get that color.
> > the post says:   "It's a color we're considering for something, and
> > wanted to see it on a bike, so had Wford make the bike, paint it
> > thusly".
>
> > It seems to mean that they have another project/bike in mind for this
> > color,  which is more intriguing IMHO  :D     I have read that
> > Rivendell is working out the details of a heavy duty, low price city-
> > bike later this year.
>
> > Personally I think with the SH already having had two colors, maybe
> > it's better to give another one of their models a new hue.
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread cyclotourist
IIRC, the city bike was going to be all black, so maybe there's another bike
in the works from Riv-Works.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 3:59 AM, newenglandbike wrote:

>
>
> On Mar 4, 1:13 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > Grant's wording on this bluish one includes a virtual guarantee that
> > there will be more Sams made in this color.
> >
>
>
> It doesn't seem like a guarantee that the SH will get that color.
> the post says:   "It's a color we're considering for something, and
> wanted to see it on a bike, so had Wford make the bike, paint it
> thusly".
>
> It seems to mean that they have another project/bike in mind for this
> color,  which is more intriguing IMHO  :D I have read that
> Rivendell is working out the details of a heavy duty, low price city-
> bike later this year.
>
> Personally I think with the SH already having had two colors, maybe
> it's better to give another one of their models a new hue.
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread Marty
First bid up, and much better photos loaded. The color is even better
in these views. Well done Riv!

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news_post/337

Marty

On Mar 5, 8:54 am, EricP  wrote:
> Another opinion - am 6' with an 89cm pbh and ride a 56cm fist
> generation Sam Hillborne.  That was after a lot of discussion and
> worry on my part.
> Photo of bike from last summer -http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc
>
> On the new generation of Hillborne bikes, I could (and probably would)
> ride a 60cm frame.  Have test ridden one and it works.  Quite well, in
> fact.
>
> For comparison, was recently able to straddle a Hillborne from the
> same time period as mine.  Wow, that was a big bike.  Could barely
> reach the bars as it was setup.  Would probably need a 60mm stem to be
> comfortable.  Maybe even a 50.
>
> Do happen to like the look of this latest Hillborne, but the color
> seems awfully close to Surly's "Utility Blue" from a couple of years
> ago.  Not a bad thing.  Just very similar to my eyes.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Mar 4, 7:21 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for all your input! I live in the bay area, so maybe I'll try to do 
> > a test ride at RBW before I decide to bid.
>
> > -nathan
>
> > On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
> > > Hi!
>
> > > To me it seems you're right at the spot where there's no clear winner
> > > without considering various factors.
>
> > > If you like high bars (say, 2-3cm or more above the saddle) and intend
> > > to avoid truly rugged terrain, I'd say the 60cm would be the default
> > > choice.
>
> > > If you like lower-than-that bars or ride in the hooks or want to
> > > accommodate rough stuff or have short arms or intend to ride thinly-
> > > shod a lot, then I'd say the 56cm would work better.
>
> > > Of course, if you get a chance to straddle a 60cm set up roughly "your
> > > way", you'll know one way or the other pretty quickly.
>
> > > I'm 6' tall, have a 90 PBH, like *very* high bars (5-10 cm above the
> > > saddle), ride bad roads and "improved" trails (no out-in-the-middle-of-
> > > the-field or boulder-skipping stuff), use 700x40 or 700x38 tires
> > > @60-70psi, and *never* let the weather stop me (the 700x40 tires have
> > > 240 studs). My 60cm Sam is near perfect. A 61cm would certainly be
> > > even better. A 62 would work either even better or not at all. The
> > > 64cm is definitely a no-go.
>
> > > Here are various pictures of my bike. I do like my handlebars high.
> > > But the frame felt fine for me even with the Bullmoose 150mm bars as
> > > pictured. (I lately have chosen to ride with those bars on the RBW-
> > > sold steerer extender. That is a *sweet* ride! But I'll switch 'em
> > > back some too.)
>
> > > (Try to ignore the "rampant" look in the photos. I've since cut the
> > > kickstand down a bit. It looks *way* more normal, even with the really
> > > high bars.)
>
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/albatross-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/bullmoose-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/moustache-bike.jpg
> > >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/noodle-bike.jpg
>
> > > (All the configurations have a Dirt Drop 100 stem.)
>
> > > Yours,
> > > Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> > > On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> > > > It's beautiful. I'm tempted… but is a 56cm Sam too small for me? I'm 
> > > > 5'11", 88 PBH, SH usually around 77-78. Would that result in a lotta 
> > > > seatpost showing / would a 60cm Sam fit me better?
>
> > > > -nathan
>
> > > > On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, scott wrote:
> > > > > Holy Smokes! I think the Sam Riv is auctioning right now is the nicest
> > > > > color I've seen in a long time. It makes the single color paint job
> > > > > pop! I would be thrilled if the new batch of Sam's were this color. In
> > > > > other words, GRANT and Crew, please use this color on the new
> > > > > Sams!
>
> > > > > Scott "Counting pennies for a Hillborne" Lutz
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[RBW] Re: hiawatha posters

2011-03-05 Thread EricP
Jim already has my money for it.  (Helps that I had to stop at his
shop last night to pick up a bike.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 5, 6:36 am, John Blish  wrote:
> If you want one of these grab it quickly.  Skip at Surly has also put the
> word out
>
> http://surlybikes.com/blog/
>
> and that kind of endorsement, which seldom happens for anything not made by
> Surly, will bring a big response.
>
> Might be all gone already.
>
> -jb - tired of the cold and snow but glad to live in Minneapolis where the
> functional-bike scene is always hot.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> > I just saw this from the hiawatha blog but I thought I'd mention it.
>
> >http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2011/03/2011-hc-poster.html
>
> > I don't think it's a big stretch to say that bike looks a lot like an
> > orange sam.
>
> > gorgeous poster.
>
> > I have one of the ones from last year. Looks great on the wall.
>
> > -sv
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread EricP
Another opinion - am 6' with an 89cm pbh and ride a 56cm fist
generation Sam Hillborne.  That was after a lot of discussion and
worry on my part.
Photo of bike from last summer - http://tinyurl.com/6f2bbnc

On the new generation of Hillborne bikes, I could (and probably would)
ride a 60cm frame.  Have test ridden one and it works.  Quite well, in
fact.

For comparison, was recently able to straddle a Hillborne from the
same time period as mine.  Wow, that was a big bike.  Could barely
reach the bars as it was setup.  Would probably need a 60mm stem to be
comfortable.  Maybe even a 50.

Do happen to like the look of this latest Hillborne, but the color
seems awfully close to Surly's "Utility Blue" from a couple of years
ago.  Not a bad thing.  Just very similar to my eyes.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Mar 4, 7:21 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> Thanks for all your input! I live in the bay area, so maybe I'll try to do a 
> test ride at RBW before I decide to bid.
>
> -nathan
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
> > Hi!
>
> > To me it seems you're right at the spot where there's no clear winner
> > without considering various factors.
>
> > If you like high bars (say, 2-3cm or more above the saddle) and intend
> > to avoid truly rugged terrain, I'd say the 60cm would be the default
> > choice.
>
> > If you like lower-than-that bars or ride in the hooks or want to
> > accommodate rough stuff or have short arms or intend to ride thinly-
> > shod a lot, then I'd say the 56cm would work better.
>
> > Of course, if you get a chance to straddle a 60cm set up roughly "your
> > way", you'll know one way or the other pretty quickly.
>
> > I'm 6' tall, have a 90 PBH, like *very* high bars (5-10 cm above the
> > saddle), ride bad roads and "improved" trails (no out-in-the-middle-of-
> > the-field or boulder-skipping stuff), use 700x40 or 700x38 tires
> > @60-70psi, and *never* let the weather stop me (the 700x40 tires have
> > 240 studs). My 60cm Sam is near perfect. A 61cm would certainly be
> > even better. A 62 would work either even better or not at all. The
> > 64cm is definitely a no-go.
>
> > Here are various pictures of my bike. I do like my handlebars high.
> > But the frame felt fine for me even with the Bullmoose 150mm bars as
> > pictured. (I lately have chosen to ride with those bars on the RBW-
> > sold steerer extender. That is a *sweet* ride! But I'll switch 'em
> > back some too.)
>
> > (Try to ignore the "rampant" look in the photos. I've since cut the
> > kickstand down a bit. It looks *way* more normal, even with the really
> > high bars.)
>
> >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/albatross-bike.jpg
> >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/bullmoose-bike.jpg
> >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/moustache-bike.jpg
> >http://home.comcast.net/~thomaslynnskean/cockpits/noodle-bike.jpg
>
> > (All the configurations have a Dirt Drop 100 stem.)
>
> > Yours,
> > Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> > On Mar 4, 12:17 pm, nathan spindel  wrote:
> > > It's beautiful. I'm tempted… but is a 56cm Sam too small for me? I'm 
> > > 5'11", 88 PBH, SH usually around 77-78. Would that result in a lotta 
> > > seatpost showing / would a 60cm Sam fit me better?
>
> > > -nathan
>
> > > On Friday, March 4, 2011 at 7:51 AM, scott wrote:
> > > > Holy Smokes! I think the Sam Riv is auctioning right now is the nicest
> > > > color I've seen in a long time. It makes the single color paint job
> > > > pop! I would be thrilled if the new batch of Sam's were this color. In
> > > > other words, GRANT and Crew, please use this color on the new
> > > > Sams!
>
> > > > Scott "Counting pennies for a Hillborne" Lutz
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Re: [RBW] hiawatha posters

2011-03-05 Thread John Blish
If you want one of these grab it quickly.  Skip at Surly has also put the
word out

http://surlybikes.com/blog/

and that kind of endorsement, which seldom happens for anything not made by
Surly, will bring a big response.

Might be all gone already.

-jb - tired of the cold and snow but glad to live in Minneapolis where the
functional-bike scene is always hot.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2011 at 1:23 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> I just saw this from the hiawatha blog but I thought I'd mention it.
>
> http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2011/03/2011-hc-poster.html
>
> I don't think it's a big stretch to say that bike looks a lot like an
> orange sam.
>
> gorgeous poster.
>
> I have one of the ones from last year. Looks great on the wall.
>
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Auction Color

2011-03-05 Thread newenglandbike


On Mar 4, 1:13 pm, William  wrote:

> Grant's wording on this bluish one includes a virtual guarantee that
> there will be more Sams made in this color.
>


It doesn't seem like a guarantee that the SH will get that color.
the post says:   "It's a color we're considering for something, and
wanted to see it on a bike, so had Wford make the bike, paint it
thusly".

It seems to mean that they have another project/bike in mind for this
color,  which is more intriguing IMHO  :D I have read that
Rivendell is working out the details of a heavy duty, low price city-
bike later this year.

Personally I think with the SH already having had two colors, maybe
it's better to give another one of their models a new hue.

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