[RBW] Annual pilgrimage to HQ

2011-06-17 Thread Stonehog
I made the trip out to Walnut Creek this week (Thursday) while in town for a 
conference.  For those of you who haven't been, it's not to be missed.  

I rode a 54 Hunqa with moustaches, a 58 diaga Hunqa with drops, the new 
SimpleOne (58) with Albas, and the 60 DiagaBomba with Bullmoose bars.  Grant 
set them all up after I indicated I'd love to take a Hunqa and SimpleOne for a 
ride.  Talk about testing out all the combos!  

All were beautiful, and I found that the diaga tubes neither added much for 
weight, and definitely met the intended purpose of triangulating the bigger 
frames.  I really liked the Hunqas, and for a pure fun MTB, I'm planning to get 
a 54 later this summer.  It was a gas!  If I fall into more dollars (i.e. 
convince my wife) I'll easily go for a 56 Bomba diagonal.  It is a beautiful 
bike, and rides like a champ.  Also - surprisingly light.  

The single fell down my list a bit - I mostly commute, and until I start having 
more time for weekend trail rides, it's just not going to get as much time out 
of my garage.  

On the people side of things, I talked with Grant, Jay, Miesha, Dave, and Mark. 
 They all were very helpful and just great folks to deal with my silly 
questions.  Grant even entertained my non-bike-guy associate who I dragged 
along.  He talked kids and camping while I was out riding, and before we left, 
he tossed him a couple videos on child rearing.  

What a cool business Grant has built!  I don't think I've seen anything close 
to our Riv  community - all brought together by the design, opinion, writings, 
and good nature of one guy with some great employees!  Inspiration for us all.

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread CycloFiend
on 6/17/11 8:34 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> how I miss cyclofiend current classics.
> 
> -sv

Hang in there sports fans.  Seems like I'm juggling too many cats and
chainsaws these days.

Folks have been politely and steadily sending images, though, and there are
a few images in the backlog folder.

I'd be engaging in fanciful speculation if I said I'm about to catch up.
But, I am taking some steps (hardware issues, among other things) to realign
the workflow, so when I _do_ find the odd hour here or there, I can dig in
and chew thoroughly for a bit.

Anyway, thanks for the reminder, Seth.

- J

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[RBW] Re: New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Fuz
Thanks for the comments.  :)

I'll be out on business travel unfortunately, but I'll update with
some pics when I get back and post them to the rivendell flickr tag.
The black metallic looks better in motion and in the sun where it
sparkles more.

On Jun 17, 6:39 am, Mike  wrote:
> I never get tired of looking at pictures of new Rivendells. Your bike
> looks great. Hope you get out this weekend. Perhaps you can post some
> shots of it in the wild.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Joe Bernard
I'm a derailer snob. I prefer XT and Ultegra because..um..I just do.
Not necessarily the current versions, though. Any old piece in nice
condition will do. I've been looking for a mid-'90s 8-speed-era XT for
a while now.

Yes, there's a current "normal pull" LX. I recently bought one from a
trike rider who upgraded to XT. It's painted silver..I think Riv
stocks it now.

Joe Bernard
Fairfield, CA.

On Jun 17, 9:23 am, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Tangential questions:
>
> 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low
> end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+
> rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC,
> top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am I just
> old?
>
> 2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?
>
> And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:
> > This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
> > still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
> > that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
> > big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
> > they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread mike

So far my S1 has a 17 tooth single.  Can't comment too much on it
because I don't even have a chain installed yet, or brake levers.
Should get the first trial run this weekend.

I'm going to get the gearing tested out for a while before I spring
for a White freewheel (if ever).  The cranks will *probably* be a
Specialized triple from a 1986 Stumpjumper.  I have a 1973 Dura-Ace
crank that is choice number two.  I also have a Superbe-Pro crank that
is beautiful, but with a 144mm BCD, I just don't think it's going to
work on anything for me ever again.  It's currently on a Vitus 979
frame, but I don't think that's ever going to work for me again
either.

 I'm building this frame mostly from the parts bin as you might
guess.  My plan is a true single speed, no flops or Dos Eno, but that
may always change.  I'm not getting younger.  It does coast.


Hey Mojo!  Interesting to see that Quickbeam color!  Was that stock?
What year?  On my monitor it looks a bit like the S1.  I guess you
have a different vintage Superbe crank if it takes a 39?

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[RBW] The bike collection (or hoard?)

2011-06-17 Thread mike
Sort of related to "Rivs in the Rafters", but started as a new thread
here since there's little Riv content.  And none in my rafters.

I have some tendency to hoard (my first and only Riv is in the
building stage (S1)) and my wife tends to want to get rid of stuff.
That makes for a good balance.

A couple of weeks ago I went to an estate sale.  I just happened to
ride by and stopped in.  Holy Crap!  What an amazing collection of
wonderful useless crap.  It truly made me want to go home and throw
something away.

I remember something Grant wrote about the optimum number of bikes.
It was at least seven.  A go fast, touring, single speed, beater, one
under repair, a loaner, I can't remember the rest.

My bikes:

Probably early 70s, French, Probably Mercier frame.  Probably their
closest thing to the Pugeot PX-10.  The bare frame is hanging in the
garage, stripped for parts about a year ago.  It needs to go.

1986 Vitus 979.  I've ridden it a lot recently.  Even tried it with 26
inch wheels.  I sort of like that!.  The BB is a little bit low, but
it's ridable.  It's lovely, great components on it.  It needs to go.

Two 1986 Stumpjumpers, one "Sport" one regular.  These have been my
commuters for a while.

My not yet completely assembled Simple One.

I really need to consolidate down to fewer bikes.  I can't ride them
all and it's too much work to keep them all maintained.

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Scotty
Thanks for all of the good responses to my question. I feel confident
in my decision now. Waiting for my bike has given me plenty of time to
second guess just about every part of my new bike, and I haven’t even
gotten a look at it yet. I think I am finally done second guessing. I
am going to leave it alone, just as it is invoiced. I ordered some
cages for it today and that it the last thing I had to order for now.
It should be getting really close to the time that I should be hearing
something from Riv and I am a bit obsessed with it :) I even dream
about its arrival. I think I have stared at every single picture of A
Homer Hilsen’s that are available for viewing on the internet. Can you
tell I am excited about my bike?
Here is how my bike will be set up:
59cm A Homer Hilsen
700x38 Schwalbe Marathon tires
Nitto Crystal fellow seat post
Brooks B17 Honey brown
Sugino XD2 46/36/24
9 speed 11-32 cassette
MKS Grip King Pedals
Tektro Silver alternative brakes
Tiagra levers
Dirt drop stem
Moustache handlebars, yellow newbaum, amber shellac
Dura ace bar ends
Deore long cage rear der.
Campy front der.
LX/ Synergy wheels
Silver Longboard fenders
Marks Rack- Front
Tubus Logo Rear rack
11 ltr. Zimbale saddlebag, small front Zimbale rack bag
Hammer strike brass bell, King Iris cages, Klean Kanteen Bottles
Someday I will have Peter White build me a Son Dynamo Wheel
No I dont expect anyone to read all of this.

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[RBW] Re: HS

2011-06-17 Thread EricP
Definitely beyond what I'd be comfortable spending. But I hope it does
work out and becomes a regular model.  No matter what.  (Well, maybe
not a mountain unicycle or full suspension recumbent.)

Was guessing "HS" meant "highly secret" as in, no telling what the
bike is until it's in your hands. (Or Harry Smith, whose Anthology of
American Folk Music was one of Bob Dylan's main influences.)

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 17, 8:58 pm, Leslie  wrote:
> I think it sounds really interesting;  I love the idea of the
> 'Nine' (for the Fellowship, eh?) (or, the Nazgul)
>
> Wish I could, but, a bit beyond what I need to be doing (I've got one
> already in the pipeline, am patiently waiting on)...
>
> I hope it's really successful for G

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread EricP
Happen to like the modern Deore just fine.  Have used a modern XT.  It
shifts more crisply in index mode.  At least on bar ends on non paved
roads.  Otherwise the regular Deore and LX are good rear derailers.

Like Beth, I use a cheap Shimano for the front on my Sam Hillborne.
Works just fine with a Sugino crank.

For hubs, I do think the XT may be worth the extra money. Depending on
the level of XT.  My 1x9 has an XT rear hub and the bike is nearly
stealth silent when coasting.  Love it on downhills.  Have another
bike with a Deore LX rear and it is louder, but still just as
dependable.  Used it on my LHT all through last winter in Minnesota
and it didn't complain once.

BTW, old stuff is still good.  My 1x9 has an old mid series Deore
thumb shifter (the black forward mounted version of the mid-late
1980's).  In pure friction mode it's my favorite shifter. Yes, more
than the Silvers, because it is a true friction.  No ratchets or
nothin'.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Jun 17, 7:33 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
wrote:
> I absolutely love the older Shimano XTRs... used of course...  Well
> made, flawless shifting, and for the price of even a new LX or Deore
> you CAN find a deal on a used XTR.
> Also the older (late 80s/early 90s) Deore derailleurs (as were the
> first gen "Deerhead" types, but typically more spendy) were
> outstanding derailleurs.. I have renaissanced several bikes with these
> and they ROCK!!!
>
> My favorite, though was the 85 Suntour XC... overbuilt to last several
> lifetimes... Match it to some XC shifters, and OH MAMA
>
> Peace,
> BB
>
> On Jun 17, 5:22 pm, Bertin753  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks. Hard to keep up with all the changes.
>
> > Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
> > > 2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX 
> > > is now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, 
> > > SLX, Deore.
>
> > > Eric
>
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE  
> > > wrote:
> > > Tangential questions:
>
> > > 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to 
> > > low end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see 
> > > $250+ rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). 
> > > IIRC, top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am 
> > > I just old?
>
> > > 2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?
>
> > > And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?
>
> > > Thanks.
>
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:
> > > This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
> > > still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
> > > that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
> > > big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
> > > they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
>
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[RBW] Re: HS

2011-06-17 Thread Leslie
I think it sounds really interesting;  I love the idea of the
'Nine' (for the Fellowship, eh?) (or, the Nazgul)

Wish I could, but, a bit beyond what I need to be doing (I've got one
already in the pipeline, am patiently waiting on)...


I hope it's really successful for G

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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread charlie
I'm with some of the others hereI have mine set up with 39x36
rings and the 16-19 This allows me a 36x19=51" 39x16=66" and I think I
can use it the other way too.but I don't. I don't have the axle
changing position on the dropout and I get a mid low and a mid high
gear. I plan on a 22 tooth freewheel for the flop side later and may
go with a 30x38 up front as I live in the foothills of Mt. Rainier and
am old and fat. The 16-18 freewheel is actually a nice combo and with
even spaced teeth it works out better with the stock 40x32 IMHO.  The
white 18 tooth heavy duty trials model is the one to get if you want a
single cog freewheel. Finding a gear you can live with 80% of the time
is tricky but for me and my terrain that works out to something
between 60-68 inches. It is nice to have theheadwind / hill / I'm
really poopedgear when you need it though.
I once did an experiment to see if I could ride my local hilly 15 mile
ride using the 51" only and I did it just fineit was a grunt up
the hills and a spin, spin coast on the flats but it worked fine. I
can easily spin along at 10-13 mph in that gear and still  make it up
a decent climb. The 66" is a little rough starting in traffic but once
moving its the gear to have if you want to ride at a more normal pace.
I would get the 16-18 and later get a 22 if I were to do it over
again. This gives you a 39,48,60 and 68 if my memory is correct and is
about all you need.

On Jun 17, 8:59 am, "Rob H."  wrote:
> The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
> Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
> installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
> all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
> 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
> combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
> the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Thanks; I know these well -- in fact, very shortsightedly I gave the
one I owned away last Xmas season. And I had even adapted it for use
as a pannier.

It was to my brother -- perhaps I can lean on him to return it ...

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Montclair BobbyB
 wrote:
> You may have seen these... I don't own one, but love the way they
> look, as well as the fact that they're repurposed military bags.  The
> blinky can clip on this, and you should have room under the seat.
>
> http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=1245
>
>
> On Jun 17, 7:33 pm, Bertin753  wrote:
>> As usual, neglected to explain fully: the large front bag will be kept free 
>> for dog, groceries, and so forth.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Bertin753  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a 
>> > very small pannier to carry tubes and other repair/spares kit in-- 
>> > something about the size of a large, mountain seat wedge sufficient for 2 
>> > fattish tubes, tools, saddle cover, patch kit and, as well, that has room 
>> > for a samwich and a windbreaker. Does anyone have suggestions?
>>
>> > I clip a blinky under my saddle so a wedge won't fit.
>>
>> > Thank.
>>
>> > Patrick "all thumbs on myiPhone" Moore
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[RBW] Re: HS

2011-06-17 Thread Marty
Holy...

On Jun 17, 7:28 pm, Ray Shine  wrote:
> HS = Hub Shift?!?
>
>
>
> >
> >From: Pondero 
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:55 PM
> >Subject: [RBW] HS
>
> >Let the speculation begin...
>
> >http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/365
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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Dave Craig
I'm running the 16/19 with 32/36 in front on my QB. This gives me
about the same range as stock (40/32 with a single 18t freewheel) with
a dandy looking fender line, great chainline, a bailout gear AND easy
wheel removal. I only use the 16/36 and 19/32 combos. I live in a
pretty hilly town and I've used my QB on mountain rides with this set
up. If I lived somewhere flat, I'd definitely gear up.

Dave

On Jun 17, 11:02 am, Mojo  wrote:
> My Q has been in single speed mode, vs fixed gear mode, for more than
> a 
> year.http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/set-721576074...
> I am using the 17-19 Dos Eno and that would work for you, though it
> would be quite low gearing. I am using the 17-19 with a 39-45 up front
> which is not the most efficient use of the DosEno as the small-large
> and large-small are the same gear inches. But it gives me three useful
> gears: 72-63-55 inches. Like other owners, I rarely shift (out of the
> 72 inch gear) and prefer to grunt until absolutely necessary.
>
> On the other (flop) side is a 23T freewheel that gives me a bailout
> gear of 46 inches. I have only used that gear twice for climbs into
> the Colorado National Monument. Both times I swore I would never use
> the Q for that ride again as I hate to flip-flop on the side of the
> road. Its been long enough that I am about ready to do it again
>
> On Jun 17, 9:59 am, "Rob H."  wrote:
>
>
>
> > The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
> > Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
> > installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
> > all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
> > 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
> > combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
> > the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.- Hide 
> > quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I absolutely love the older Shimano XTRs... used of course...  Well
made, flawless shifting, and for the price of even a new LX or Deore
you CAN find a deal on a used XTR.
Also the older (late 80s/early 90s) Deore derailleurs (as were the
first gen "Deerhead" types, but typically more spendy) were
outstanding derailleurs.. I have renaissanced several bikes with these
and they ROCK!!!

My favorite, though was the 85 Suntour XC... overbuilt to last several
lifetimes... Match it to some XC shifters, and OH MAMA

Peace,
BB

On Jun 17, 5:22 pm, Bertin753  wrote:
> Thanks. Hard to keep up with all the changes.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:
>
>
>
> > 2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX 
> > is now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, 
> > SLX, Deore.
>
> > Eric
>
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> > Tangential questions:
>
> > 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low 
> > end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+ 
> > rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC, 
> > top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am I just 
> > old?
>
> > 2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?
>
> > And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:
> > This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
> > still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
> > that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
> > big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
> > they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
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Re: [RBW] HS

2011-06-17 Thread Ray Shine
HS = Hub Shift?!?




>
>From: Pondero 
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:55 PM
>Subject: [RBW] HS
>
>Let the speculation begin...
>
>http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/365
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[RBW] Re: Market Prices for Riv Frames

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Charlie:

The older ones with the bi-plane fork can sometimes fetch more, but I
personally think the 1985 was the best year (before the chainstay
mounted brake reared its ugly head).  For a 1985 Stumpy (which WAS the
first year with the unicrown "S" stamped lug fork) in good condition
and original parts, I'd expect to see it sell on eBay for around $300
to $400 (the eBay market fluctuates from week to week, it's flaky).
Personally I think they're worth EVERY cent of that and more, and
can't understand why they don't fetch more.

Then there are the occasional delusional eBay nutcases who think their
83 is worth $900... it's their perogative to overprice, but honestly
they're dreamin.  My 85 Stumpy (which I've since customized -
http://tinyurl.com/3sfaqko) to be the way I like it is (honestly) as
nice a ride as any bike in my stable, except for the Bomba (but it's
darn close)...  My honest take... KEEP IT... it's THAT good of a
bike.  The $300-$400 (or even $500) that you MIGHT get for it couldn't
possibly come close to replacing it... Keep it, and make it into
something special.

Peace,
BB

On Jun 15, 9:35 pm, EricP  wrote:
> Honestly, no idea.  I think that's the lugged unicrown fork model.
> (Too lazy to look it up.)  If it doesn't have a U brake fitting under
> the seatstays, it's worth more.   But really have no idea on a price.
> Montclair BobbyB might know more.  He's had more of those bikes
> through his hands.
>
> I'd want one because it's a bike I rode before the big hiatus.  The
> few I've ridden since then are not great performing bikes, but it's
> the memory of what I used to have that I'd pay for.  And that is only
> if I wanted it when one came along.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Jun 15, 12:48 pm, Charlie  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Two posts in one day for me.
>
> > This is to Eric.
>
> > If hanging next to the Wilbury mixte referenced a few messages above,
> > there was a red, lugged, 19 1/2 inch, 1985 Stumpjumper frame and fork,
> > made by Toyo (I think) -  one owner - purchased new by me in 1985 -
> > what sort of premium might one expect?
>
> > Charlie
>
> >  Personally might pay a premium for an old lugged
>
> > > Specialized Stumpjumper, while others would go meh.  - Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
You may have seen these... I don't own one, but love the way they
look, as well as the fact that they're repurposed military bags.  The
blinky can clip on this, and you should have room under the seat.

http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=1245


On Jun 17, 7:33 pm, Bertin753  wrote:
> As usual, neglected to explain fully: the large front bag will be kept free 
> for dog, groceries, and so forth.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Bertin753  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a 
> > very small pannier to carry tubes and other repair/spares kit in-- 
> > something about the size of a large, mountain seat wedge sufficient for 2 
> > fattish tubes, tools, saddle cover, patch kit and, as well, that has room 
> > for a samwich and a windbreaker. Does anyone have suggestions?
>
> > I clip a blinky under my saddle so a wedge won't fit.
>
> > Thank.
>
> > Patrick "all thumbs on myiPhone" Moore

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[RBW] HS

2011-06-17 Thread Pondero
Let the speculation begin...

http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/365

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[RBW] Re: Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
As usual, neglected to explain fully: the large front bag will be kept free for 
dog, groceries, and so forth.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Bertin753  wrote:

> Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a very 
> small pannier to carry tubes and other repair/spares kit in-- something about 
> the size of a large, mountain seat wedge sufficient for 2 fattish tubes, 
> tools, saddle cover, patch kit and, as well, that has room for a samwich and 
> a windbreaker. Does anyone have suggestions? 
> 
> I clip a blinky under my saddle so a wedge won't fit.
> 
> Thank.
> 
> Patrick "all thumbs on myiPhone" Moore

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[RBW] Wee, very wee, pannier? Sent from my iPhone

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
Now that I have a very nice front bag for the Herse, I'd like to find a very 
small pannier to carry tubes and other repair/spares kit in-- something about 
the size of a large, mountain seat wedge sufficient for 2 fattish tubes, tools, 
saddle cover, patch kit and, as well, that has room for a samwich and a 
windbreaker. Does anyone have suggestions? 

I clip a blinky under my saddle so a wedge won't fit.

Thank.

Patrick "all thumbs on myiPhone" Moore

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread cyclotourist
Salsa makes one.  It's a real smart design with an oval bolt hole that fits
56 or 58.  Cheap, too.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5034952057/



On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Ian Dickson  wrote:

> The 22t is a 56 bcd ring, which nobody makes anymore. The Zephyr has
> two sets of holes for the granny, the outer being 74 and the inner 56.
> You might find some of the salsa 22T rings that have holes for 56 and
> 58 bcd. Also, old Suntour Microdrive cranks used 56 bcd inners. I
> think the grannies were steel, so even a used crank might have a good
> one on it.
>
> On Jun 17, 12:19 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> > Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or
> > reasonable facsimile.  Any ideas, please let me know off-list.
> > It for a Rivendell Road Standard.
> > thanks.
> > RL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Bertin753
Thanks. Hard to keep up with all the changes.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> 2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX is 
> now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, SLX, 
> Deore.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Tangential questions: 
> 
> 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low 
> end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+ 
> rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC, 
> top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am I just 
> old?
> 
> 2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?
> 
> And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:
> This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
> still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
> that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
> big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
> they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
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Re: [RBW] Rivs in the Rafters

2011-06-17 Thread jimD
Not that I'm in favor of proliferating Flickr Riv subset groups but perhaps a 
Rivendell Hoarders flickr group would be in order?

But then we'd have to decide if the photos need to be of the bikes/frames 
hanging from the rafters or if pictures of the bikes

in their pre-hoarded days would be acceptable. It is all just so complex and 
wonderful that the mind boggles.

Of course those who know me would confirm that I'm easily boggled.

-JimD


On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:33 AM, robert zeidler wrote:

> Nope.  Hoarding and proud of it.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM, jimD  wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, seems to me we should all reveal what Rivendell frames/bikes we have
>>> hanging around that we don't ride.
>>> I confessed to having a 61 Bleriot that charitably donated it's parts to my
>>> Saluki.
>>> Anybody want to unburden their conscience?
>>>  -JimD
>>> 
>> 
>> If anyone has a 61cm atlantis or AHH f/f hanging about in the rafters
>> that they are thinking of parting ways with feel free to let me know
>> ;)
>> 
>> -sv
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[RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread Ian Dickson
The 22t is a 56 bcd ring, which nobody makes anymore. The Zephyr has
two sets of holes for the granny, the outer being 74 and the inner 56.
You might find some of the salsa 22T rings that have holes for 56 and
58 bcd. Also, old Suntour Microdrive cranks used 56 bcd inners. I
think the grannies were steel, so even a used crank might have a good
one on it.

On Jun 17, 12:19 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or
> reasonable facsimile.  Any ideas, please let me know off-list.
> It for a Rivendell Road Standard.
> thanks.
> RL

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[RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread Montclair BobbyB
This is what I would consider genuine perfection...  Thanks!

BB

On Jun 17, 11:34 am, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> > Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm.  One of
> > my favorite bikes is a later model Jack Taylor.  The lug lining was
> > done (by hand, of course) by Norman Taylor.  Michael Lawrence located
> > the frame (NOS, hanging in Norman's old barn) for me, and before he
> > shipped it to me he warned that the lug lining was pretty quavery...
> > and it is.  Head tube lining includes a smear across the front of the
> > head tube.  I love it, 'cuz it was done by Norman.  I would not want
> > it any other way.
>
> > Another favorite is a Bob Jackson.  Here's the link to the Cyclofiend
> > pictures - - look at the third picture down, the nicely imperfect pin
> > striping.
>
> >http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc719-maxbeach1109.html
>
> 
>
> how I miss cyclofiend current classics.
>
> -sv- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Eric Daume
2. - LX is out of Shimano's mountain range in the US, replaced by SLX (LX is
now a Euro trekking group). Shimano's mountain heirarchy is XTR, XT, SLX,
Deore.

Eric


On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:23 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Tangential questions:
>
> 1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low
> end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+
> rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC,
> top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am I just
> old?
>
> 2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?
>
> And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
>> This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
>> still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
>> that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
>> big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
>> they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
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[RBW] Re: WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread William
22 tooth rings exist for 74mm BCD?  I always thought you couldn't go
smaller than a 24 teeth on 74mm.  I have a 22t ring but it's for 5
bolt 58mm BCD.

On Jun 17, 1:19 pm, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or
> reasonable facsimile.  Any ideas, please let me know off-list.
> It for a Rivendell Road Standard.
> thanks.
> RL

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[RBW] WTB - 22t 74bcd inner for TA Zephyr

2011-06-17 Thread reynoldslugs
Peter White is out of the 22t inners, so I'm looking for one, or
reasonable facsimile.  Any ideas, please let me know off-list.
It for a Rivendell Road Standard.
thanks.
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[RBW] Re: A Simple Moustache.......

2011-06-17 Thread EastBayGuy
Thanks for all the Good Wishes. Many miles ahead for myself and the
SimpleOne. Defender 90's are coming Back in 2014 FYI.

Cheers!

Dustin G

Walnut Creek

On Jun 16, 10:39 pm, charlie  wrote:
> Great looking set up.I entertained the idea of mustache bars too.
> I may have to use my Carradice Nelson and finish building my spartan
> rack for it. Love my Simple One.just wish I had more time to ride
> although I may just make the 25 mile commute tomorrow.
>
> On Jun 16, 10:58 am, EastBayGuy  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Everyone,
>
> > I just wanted to share my New SimpleOne with Y'all. I read all the
> > posts daily but rarely post on the site, but have learned allot in the
> > Past Year from the Group. I just got back into cycling about a year
> > ago and I don't plan to stop. I cant thank Rivendell enough for
> > opening my eyes to there style of riding and riding philosophy, not to
> > mention the Paleo Diet.
>
> > Here is the SimpleOne
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527498@N06/sets/72157626851883261/
>
> > I work in Walnut Creek and sell Jaguars and Land Rovers right across
> > the street from RBWHQ. I am always comparing there bikes to Range
> > Rovers when people ask me about them. They are always super smooth on
> > the road and very functional off road as well. It seems they go hand
> > in hand with what Range Rovers are known for, not to mention the
> > beauty, refinement and style of there bikes.
>
> > About 8 years ago I broke 9 bones in my back from a Snow Saucer
> > accident. I thought my days of physical activity were over and that I
> > would have to live with pain and soreness for the rest of my life.
> > Well 7 years went by, I gained 60 lbs and then I discovered bicycling
> > again and the Paleo Diet. I purchased a used Sam from a member off
> > this list and I have been riding ever since. With the handlebars high
> > and relaxed geometry it is the best anecdote for my back pain and
> > soreness. So now I have lost almost 50 lbs, my back pain is gone and I
> > plan to be riding for many miles ahead.
>
> > A million Thanks to everyone and I look forward to many years of
> > cycling in my future.
>
> > Cheers!
>
> > Dustin G
> > Walnut Creek Ca

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread William
The horrible thing about the latest XT rear derailleurs is the lack of
a barrel adjuster.  Even using friction, I prefer to have one for the
rear der.  Using downtube or barcon index, no barrel adjuster is
unforgivable in my opinion.  Yeah, Riv sells an aftermarket one, but
that's a lame workaround, fixing a problem that hadn't existed in the
last 20 years.  I personally like the pulleys on the XT level better
than the Deores, so I've stocked up on the M750 generation xts.

On Jun 17, 12:25 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > FWIW, I've always thought why should Shimano make more money off me
> > than the builder? I'd rather allocate a higher percentage toward
> > frame, fork, and wheels, and definitely skimp on the drivetrain.
> > Drivetrain components are wear items anyway, they will be replaced
> > sooner or later.
>
> > Regards,
> > -Allan
>
> Agreed. For the past couple of years I've been using cheapie SRAM
> cassettes and have not had a problem with them at all. You can get
> them through Universal Cycles for like $22. There's even a cheaper
> model available if I remember correctly.
>
> In my original response I stated "I doubt I'd purchase a Deore or
> Ultegra derailer again." What I meant to say was a "Deore XT...". Yes,
> I'm very happy with my basic Deore derailer and will probably keep
> using them.
>
> --mike

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
> FWIW, I've always thought why should Shimano make more money off me
> than the builder? I'd rather allocate a higher percentage toward
> frame, fork, and wheels, and definitely skimp on the drivetrain.
> Drivetrain components are wear items anyway, they will be replaced
> sooner or later.
>
> Regards,
> -Allan

Agreed. For the past couple of years I've been using cheapie SRAM
cassettes and have not had a problem with them at all. You can get
them through Universal Cycles for like $22. There's even a cheaper
model available if I remember correctly.

In my original response I stated "I doubt I'd purchase a Deore or
Ultegra derailer again." What I meant to say was a "Deore XT...". Yes,
I'm very happy with my basic Deore derailer and will probably keep
using them.

--mike

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[RBW] Obvious Riv connection

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
At least, per contraria. (Yes, I've got the ending right.) Me, I'll have two
Rivs to carry in the back of the Acadienne.

Here, courtesy of y'all-know-who is what y'all-know-who entitles "Fred's Wet
Dream."

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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Mojo
My Q has been in single speed mode, vs fixed gear mode, for more than
a year.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/79695460@N00/2760281945/in/set-72157607471577085
I am using the 17-19 Dos Eno and that would work for you, though it
would be quite low gearing. I am using the 17-19 with a 39-45 up front
which is not the most efficient use of the DosEno as the small-large
and large-small are the same gear inches. But it gives me three useful
gears: 72-63-55 inches. Like other owners, I rarely shift (out of the
72 inch gear) and prefer to grunt until absolutely necessary.

On the other (flop) side is a 23T freewheel that gives me a bailout
gear of 46 inches. I have only used that gear twice for climbs into
the Colorado National Monument. Both times I swore I would never use
the Q for that ride again as I hate to flip-flop on the side of the
road. Its been long enough that I am about ready to do it again


On Jun 17, 9:59 am, "Rob H."  wrote:
> The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
> Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
> installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
> all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
> 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
> combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
> the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.

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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread newenglandbike
I shift my QB from time to time (usually once on my way to work), but
if I'm going to shift, I'm more likely to go from 40/16 to 32/19, or
to 32/22 by flipping the wheel.

-Matt

On Jun 17, 11:59 am, "Rob H."  wrote:
> The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
> Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
> installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
> all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
> 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
> combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
> the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Allan in Portland
"buying a very expensive bike and why skimp on the parts,"

FWIW, I've always thought why should Shimano make more money off me
than the builder? I'd rather allocate a higher percentage toward
frame, fork, and wheels, and definitely skimp on the drivetrain.
Drivetrain components are wear items anyway, they will be replaced
sooner or later.

Regards,
-Allan

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Re: [RBW] Rivs in the Rafters

2011-06-17 Thread robert zeidler
Nope.  Hoarding and proud of it.

On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:50 AM, jimD  wrote:
>>
>> OK, seems to me we should all reveal what Rivendell frames/bikes we have
>> hanging around that we don't ride.
>> I confessed to having a 61 Bleriot that charitably donated it's parts to my
>> Saluki.
>> Anybody want to unburden their conscience?
>>  -JimD
>>
>
> If anyone has a 61cm atlantis or AHH f/f hanging about in the rafters
> that they are thinking of parting ways with feel free to let me know
> ;)
>
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: Brooks trade...My Swift - Your B17 Special?

2011-06-17 Thread pruckelshaus
If that's true, I could use one...black pro or B17?

On Jun 17, 11:33 am, jinxed  wrote:
> TRADED!! Thanks Rob!
>
> WOW. Thanks for all the generous offers!
>
>  I think Riv owners have more stock of Brooks saddles than the bike
> shops do!!

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[RBW] Re: New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Jim M.
Like the Quickbeam, the Simpleone is designed with dropouts that will
manage a difference of 8 teeth. 40/19 to 32/16 is 11 teeth, so you
can't get all four ratios from that set-up. In practice, I rarely
"shift" my QB. I've thought of making it one chainring/one cog, but
knowing that I have the ability to shift lower if I get too tired on a
long ride is reassuring.

jim m
wc ca



On Jun 17, 8:59 am, "Rob H."  wrote:
> The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
> Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
> installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
> all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
> 40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
> combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
> the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Tangential questions:

1. Aren't the high end lines now relatively more expensive compared to low
end lines than they were 20 years ago when XT ruled the roost? I see $250+
rds in catalogues (along with $900 cranks and $300 cassettes). IIRC,
top-of-line XT and XTR originally both maxed out at sub $100. Or am I just
old?

2. Where does LX fall in S's mtb lineup?

And 3: Is there a normal pull LX rd?

Thanks.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Minh  wrote:

> This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
> still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
> that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
> big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
> they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)
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[RBW] Re: Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Zack
I actually like riding in these quite a bit.  Paired with the Grip
Kings, it's my favorite combination on the bike.

I like Keens much more for just walking around, as the tevas are kind
of flimsy, but on the bike I always go for the Tevas, particularly if
I am going to ride a long distance.

They are gigantic though, so size down accordingly.

-Z

On Jun 17, 11:23 am, Leslie  wrote:
> THX!   I do wear Tevas a lot, my current pair are gettin' long in the
> tooth  I'd been meaning to obtain a future pair.
>
> :)
>
> -L
>
> On Jun 17, 10:55 am, Mike  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hey, if any of you out there are a fan of Teva's Hurricane III sandal
> > for cycling be aware that Sierra Trading post has them on sale for
> > like $23. I got mine for $20 after I "liked" their FB page. I'm not a
> > big fan of cycling in Tevas but I don't hate it either. Last year I
> > spend a day of my tour in Gifford pedaling in Tevas, something like 55
> > miles on dirt roads and they worked fine. I also pedaled around on
> > them yesterday and found them fine. I think they just take some
> > getting used to. For this year Teva has changed the design on them. It
> > looks like they've made them more rugged or something. I really like
> > the simple look and sole on these ones. Check it out:
>
> >http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,1264T_Teva-Hurricane-3-Sandals-Fo...
>
> > --mike

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[RBW] New SimpleOne owners, how are you liking the Dos Eno?

2011-06-17 Thread Rob H.
The 16t/19t White Industries DOS ENO freewheel seems to be sold out on
Riv's website so there must be a lot of SimpleOne owners who are now
installing these on their wheels. Does anyone know if are able to get
all four gear/chainring combinations between the 16/19 and the Sugino
40/32? I'm interested in this setup but only if i can get all four
combinaions. Otherwise I think I'll just go "simpler" and have 18t as
the main cog and 22t on the flip side of a free/free rear wheel.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread Seth Vidal
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 11:31 AM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm.  One of
> my favorite bikes is a later model Jack Taylor.  The lug lining was
> done (by hand, of course) by Norman Taylor.  Michael Lawrence located
> the frame (NOS, hanging in Norman's old barn) for me, and before he
> shipped it to me he warned that the lug lining was pretty quavery...
> and it is.  Head tube lining includes a smear across the front of the
> head tube.  I love it, 'cuz it was done by Norman.  I would not want
> it any other way.
>
> Another favorite is a Bob Jackson.  Here's the link to the Cyclofiend
> pictures - - look at the third picture down, the nicely imperfect pin
> striping.
>
> http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc719-maxbeach1109.html
>




how I miss cyclofiend current classics.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Brooks trade...My Swift - Your B17 Special?

2011-06-17 Thread jinxed
TRADED!! Thanks Rob!

WOW. Thanks for all the generous offers!

 I think Riv owners have more stock of Brooks saddles than the bike
shops do!!

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[RBW] Re: Hand pin-striping

2011-06-17 Thread reynoldslugs
Imperfection in paint and pin striping holds a lot of charm.  One of
my favorite bikes is a later model Jack Taylor.  The lug lining was
done (by hand, of course) by Norman Taylor.  Michael Lawrence located
the frame (NOS, hanging in Norman's old barn) for me, and before he
shipped it to me he warned that the lug lining was pretty quavery...
and it is.  Head tube lining includes a smear across the front of the
head tube.  I love it, 'cuz it was done by Norman.  I would not want
it any other way.

Another favorite is a Bob Jackson.  Here's the link to the Cyclofiend
pictures - - look at the third picture down, the nicely imperfect pin
striping.

http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2009/cc719-maxbeach1109.html

R.L.

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[RBW] Re: Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Leslie
THX!   I do wear Tevas a lot, my current pair are gettin' long in the
tooth  I'd been meaning to obtain a future pair.

:)


-L

On Jun 17, 10:55 am, Mike  wrote:
> Hey, if any of you out there are a fan of Teva's Hurricane III sandal
> for cycling be aware that Sierra Trading post has them on sale for
> like $23. I got mine for $20 after I "liked" their FB page. I'm not a
> big fan of cycling in Tevas but I don't hate it either. Last year I
> spend a day of my tour in Gifford pedaling in Tevas, something like 55
> miles on dirt roads and they worked fine. I also pedaled around on
> them yesterday and found them fine. I think they just take some
> getting used to. For this year Teva has changed the design on them. It
> looks like they've made them more rugged or something. I really like
> the simple look and sole on these ones. Check it out:
>
> http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,1264T_Teva-Hurricane-3-Sandals-Fo...
>
> --mike

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Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Kelly Sleeper
Sweet and believe me, it only gets better

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Beth H
Seriously, it depends on whether you're running index or friction.
If friction, it does. not. matter.
My front derailleur on my All-Rounder is an old Shimano Alivio that I
rescued from the metal recycling bin. A co-worker had tossed it for
being a little rusty. I scraped off the rust, cleaned and lubed it,
and voila! It works fine.

Let's say you're running index. Then it depends on whether you're
racing or commuting/touring.
If the former, you've got to run whatever gives the fastest, crispest
shifting. If you're serious about racing you'll pay for the best
shifting, or your sponsor will. (These days, according to my most
serious racing buddies, that seems to be Sram "Red".)
If the latter, the shifting has to be reliable and durable, but not
necessarily lightning-fast. If I had to choose between Deore and XT in
this case, I'd go for the Deore simply because it's cheaper and gives
solid performance. Incidentally, there's a Deore rear derailleur on my
All-Rounder as I type this. And true to me cheap-a$$ fashion, I got it
used.

Run what works. Happy riding!

Beth

On Jun 16, 5:02 pm, Scotty  wrote:
> I am just wondering if I am missing something
> in the value.

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Minh
This is a bad list to ask this kind of question because lots of us
still use deore stuff from the late 80's! or Suntour XC stuff even!
that said, shimano is always trying to create more demand, i think the
big reason for them creating/resurrecting the deore like was so that
they could raise the price of the xt stuff :)

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[RBW] Teva Hurricanes on sale!

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
Hey, if any of you out there are a fan of Teva's Hurricane III sandal
for cycling be aware that Sierra Trading post has them on sale for
like $23. I got mine for $20 after I "liked" their FB page. I'm not a
big fan of cycling in Tevas but I don't hate it either. Last year I
spend a day of my tour in Gifford pedaling in Tevas, something like 55
miles on dirt roads and they worked fine. I also pedaled around on
them yesterday and found them fine. I think they just take some
getting used to. For this year Teva has changed the design on them. It
looks like they've made them more rugged or something. I really like
the simple look and sole on these ones. Check it out:

http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,1264T_Teva-Hurricane-3-Sandals-For-Men.html

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
I doubt I'd purchase a Deore or Ultegra derailer again. My Hilsen has
an LX RR derailer I picked up for $35 a few years ago and has worked
flawlessly. On my LHT that I recently put together I used a brand new
Deore derailer I had picked up years ago for $17 and it's great. If I
were to purchase a brand new derailer for any of my bikes I'd
definitely get a Deore or 105 for it depending on my needs. Most
likely I'd just use Deore. Later this year as the internet retailers
are trying to make room for next year's stuff I'll be on the lookout
for a discounted Deore derailers. I rarely purchase stuff from Nashbar
but I'm pretty sure that was where I got the Deore and LX derailers.

Scotty, I say go with Deore. I'm sure it'll work fine for you. Use the
money saved to purchase a Sackville XS SaddleSack or put it towards a
Nitto rack.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Is XT THAT much better than Deore?

2011-06-17 Thread Tim McNamara
The mid-range Shimano stuff tends to work great and to be excellent value.  The 
upper end stuff tends to work great and be a less outstanding value.  As with 
all things one may hit diminishing returns.  The higher end stuff may last 
longer, but a Deore derailleur will probably last you 20 years.

It's *your* bike.  If you like how the Deore works and looks, use it!



On Jun 16, 2011, at 7:02 PM, Scotty wrote:

> On My Surly I have the Deore rear derailer and it has performed
> flawlessly. I can not offer a single complaint about it. So when I
> ordered my AHH I got the same derailer. I notice that most people get
> the XT but they are almost a hundred bucks more and I am not convinced
> that it can be a hundred dollars better than the deore. Am I wrong? On
> one hand I feel that I am buying a very expensive bike and why skimp
> on the parts, on the other hand its good enough and that money saved
> can go into accessories. I am just wondering if I am missing something
> in the value.

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Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Lyle Bogart
Gorgeous! Thanks for sharing the pics!

On 16 June 2011 15:26, Fuz  wrote:

> Pics here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ediblestarfish/sets/72157626971753428/
>
> I'm a local to RBW (live in the same city), just dropped in one day on
> a Saturday, two months later, here it is.  :D
>
> Too bad it's so hot now, I barely want to ride in the daytime.  :(
>
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Re: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread James Warren

Congratulations. That's a great bike! The color, the setup, the longboards, the 
carrying capacity, everything.


-Original Message-
>From: Fuz 
>Sent: Jun 16, 2011 5:26 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] New A. Homer Hilsen Owner
>
>Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ediblestarfish/sets/72157626971753428/
>
>I'm a local to RBW (live in the same city), just dropped in one day on
>a Saturday, two months later, here it is.  :D
>
>Too bad it's so hot now, I barely want to ride in the daytime.  :(
>
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[RBW] Re: New A. Homer Hilsen Owner

2011-06-17 Thread Mike
I never get tired of looking at pictures of new Rivendells. Your bike
looks great. Hope you get out this weekend. Perhaps you can post some
shots of it in the wild.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Surly's Tips for Happy Riding?

2011-06-17 Thread charlie
That's pretty Surly talk. ; )

On Jun 16, 8:57 pm, Mike  wrote:
> I really like today's post on the Surly Blog (http://surlybikes.com/
> blog/2514/). Seems to be in the same vein as Grant's Tips for Happy
> Riding. Some of my favorites from the Surly post:
>
> "Hey, little round glasses pocket protector collared shirt skid lid
> rear view mirror sandal wearing schwalbe marathon running pletscher
> two-leg kickstand tourist – good job."
>
> "Your handlebars can be lower than your saddle, even with your saddle,
> or higher than your saddle. Whichever way you like it is right."
>
> "Touch up paint always looks like shit. Often it looks worse than the
> scratch."
>
> "The moral of RAGBRAI is that families and drunken boobs can have fun
> on the same route, just maybe at different times of day."
>
> --mike

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