Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
I vote for the Roadeo because Kelly's right, this is a Rivendell forum; and they're totally bitchin. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lV_69_x7Z00J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?
I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we
like, which seems 5x as inclusive.
A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with
the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/
Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and features
like ocean or mountains might be good keywords to include. If
they're posted to this thread, database would filter for it, since
that's not a word I see on the list very often.
Philip
Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com
On Jan 3, 5:25 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
look how fast I did this climb for my taste. The home page says
Track your progress and compete against friends. Not really the
attitude I expect prevails around this list. I don't need to share my
watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.
Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
searching without a competitive attitude. Both have some tagging
capability, but mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
has caught on to.
Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships. The route
names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
them difficult, but they can be shared publicly. Here's one (paved)
route I created as an example:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211
Bill
On Jan 3, 8:44 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
Yahoo Maps.
But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.
http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587
Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments. I'm guessing
they're crowd-sourced named.
Searching isn't great, it seems. I wonder if it'd be possible to
create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.
Tse-Sung
Berkeley
On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.
I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.
Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
sometimes held.
So: link, description, location-specific
keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
70mph.
McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
OR.
Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
get found, and have a good time.
I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
want to attend a bike thing there in May).
Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
people have posted or can post trail recommendations? Could be a
thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps? I know there must be
online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv-
ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly
technical off-road.
TIA,
Tse-Sung
Berkeley
ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration
Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took
the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El
Sobrante. A really nice ride. Met some very nice dogs too :-)
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
You could use an old 120mm 5-speed, which can still be found. On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 10:39:40 PM UTC-5, Allan in Portland wrote: IIRC, the rear spacing is 120mm. I suppose one could spring it to 126 to fit an old 5 or 6 speed, but I'm not sure that still qualifies as easily. Regards, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8jd1s45p7IkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
I am not interested in fenders or tires larger than 28, nor am I interested (for the purposes of this discussion) in fineness of joinery or cosmetic details. Just fit (or potential for fit) and, above all, handling. In that case you should just get early 80's Centurion LeMans, Raliegh Comp., Nishiki International, Panasonic, or similar for like half what you will pay for the RB1. Great bikes. There are plenty of bikes just as good if not better than an RB1 in the above respects, without the RB1's attendant cache price tag (which is in no small part due to the subsequent success of Rivendell). Not to downplay Bridgestone- cool catalogs, innovative ideas (but the RB1 was not one of them). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/f1zlYf7t3VMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Half-step + granny gearing...
I used to have a half-step+granny gearing on my Sequoia (but went to a touring triple now).I use an 8-speed in the back with the DO spacing spread to 130. I have to agree that with an 8-speed, you definitely *do not* need the half-step/granny setup. To really leverage half-step gearing you're just going to be shifting almost twice as often and would have to be really, really finicky about cadence. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PcI48JmcppAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
Phil Wood freewheel hubs can be ordered with 120mm end caps for 5 speed use. You can then buy new end caps to make the hub 130mm, a handy hub for bob bikes. Now is someone could put Suntour freewheels back into production we'd be in business. Eric how do you like the S3X ? I'm looking for a hub gear that will stay in gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qvyd9C7YIqIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
So far, so good with the S3X. I have this hub on two different bikes, and both are working fine. The only issue so far is that the hubs don't like to shift under a load. If you're already grinding up a hill, it's too late to shift (unless you can somehow soft pedal for a moment). Other than that, all is well. They are definitely a conversation starter. --Eric N Sent from my iPad2 On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:25 AM, Scott G. sco...@primax.com wrote: Phil Wood freewheel hubs can be ordered with 120mm end caps for 5 speed use. You can then buy new end caps to make the hub 130mm, a handy hub for bob bikes. Now is someone could put Suntour freewheels back into production we'd be in business. Eric how do you like the S3X ? I'm looking for a hub gear that will stay in gear. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qvyd9C7YIqIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
I'm puzzled: baiting? Not the slightest intention of doing that. I do want to know why Roadeo owners prefer that bike to other road bikes. Anyone? On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: Well then Patrick maybe you should try the ugly bike fitness forum. I'm sorry last I looked I was in a Rivendell owners forums where Riv's need not be defended. Really you think anyone else on here can give you a review of how a Roadeo will fit you? Do you really think a 20lb bike is too heavy for you 28mm tires? Consider your baiting a success.. and thanks for the laugh.. :) Happy New Year Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uIbSk7kKxaUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Ah, I get it: mine came across as denying the superiority of the Roadeo with the various models listed as counter examples. Sorry; I merely wanted Kelly to be more clear about his reasons. I've long thought of a Roadeo but the cost also makes me wonder if it is really so much better than RB1, Calfee, etc etc etc (all used), or for that matter a, say, new Dave Porter. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm puzzled: baiting? Not the slightest intention of doing that. I do want to know why Roadeo owners prefer that bike to other road bikes. Anyone? On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.comwrote: Well then Patrick maybe you should try the ugly bike fitness forum. I'm sorry last I looked I was in a Rivendell owners forums where Riv's need not be defended. Really you think anyone else on here can give you a review of how a Roadeo will fit you? Do you really think a 20lb bike is too heavy for you 28mm tires? Consider your baiting a success.. and thanks for the laugh.. :) Happy New Year Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uIbSk7kKxaUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne
I am thinking about building up my SimpleOne (thank you Riv Sale!) with one of these two hubs. Does anyone here have any experience (good or bad) with either of both of these hubs? Thank you, David Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qRuzJGLH2Y0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Patrick, I can well understand your desire to get the right bike and spend no more than the right amount of money doing so. Perhaps though your question is moving into a kind of bicycle metaphysics where there really is no completely rational way of deciding? That being said (asked?) I'll try to help with my own completely subjective Roadeo experience. ;-) Subjectively then: My Roadeo's ride is somehow more energetic/responsive than a Rambouillet's, and I love that ride too. It's a beautiful bike, feels great to ride, and I wouldn't be too fast to discount those wider tires either. I ride mine sometimes with 35'ish xc tires on the packed dirt Santa Fe trail and it's a fast blast. I bet you might find the same on the Bosque. Plus I imagine you could always sell it just fine. This being the Riv forum, maybe the useful philosophical question for you is isn't life too short not to try this end of the Rivendell bicycle spectrum? Good luck with your excellent quandary! Tim Whalen On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:46 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I get it: mine came across as denying the superiority of the Roadeo with the various models listed as counter examples. Sorry; I merely wanted Kelly to be more clear about his reasons. I've long thought of a Roadeo but the cost also makes me wonder if it is really so much better than RB1, Calfee, etc etc etc (all used), or for that matter a, say, new Dave Porter. On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:31 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm puzzled: baiting? Not the slightest intention of doing that. I do want to know why Roadeo owners prefer that bike to other road bikes. Anyone? On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.comwrote: Well then Patrick maybe you should try the ugly bike fitness forum. I'm sorry last I looked I was in a Rivendell owners forums where Riv's need not be defended. Really you think anyone else on here can give you a review of how a Roadeo will fit you? Do you really think a 20lb bike is too heavy for you 28mm tires? Consider your baiting a success.. and thanks for the laugh.. :) Happy New Year Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uIbSk7kKxaUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
On Jan 4, 9:46 am, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, I get it: mine came across as denying the superiority of the Roadeo with the various models listed as counter examples. Sorry; I merely wanted Kelly to be more clear about his reasons. I've long thought of a Roadeo but the cost also makes me wonder if it is really so much better than RB1, Calfee, etc etc etc (all used), or for that matter a, say, new Dave Porter. Better is often simply a matter of personal preference, assuming one has been it at it long enough to develop preferences. Nobody is going to be able to tell you that a bike is objectively better than another and you probably know that. which is why it seems like baiting. spending a few afternoons test riding some new road bikes and getting a sense of how they feel based on your preferences will probably get you closer to a decision than soliciting opinions from folks that may have very different preferences than you, especially when it comes to fit (which is highly variable) and handling (which is highly subjective). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Kelly writes: Well then Patrick maybe you should try the ugly bike fitness forum. I'm sorry last I looked I was in a Rivendell owners forums where Riv's need not be defended. Really you think anyone else on here can give you a review of how a Roadeo will fit you? Do you really think a 20lb bike is too heavy for you 28mm tires? Don't be so touchy, Kelly. Patrick doesn't really need defending, but I've read countless of his posts over the years and he is always entertaining, very pro-Riv, and a valuable asset here. I think he really just wants to hear your reasoning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne
I have an S2 DuoMatic on a reno'd MB-2. Pedals go on tonight and I can give you a report, but not on reliability, obviously. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Spranger Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 10:06 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] SRAM Automatix versus Sturmey Archer S2 Duomatic on SimpleOne I am thinking about building up my SimpleOne (thank you Riv Sale!) with one of these two hubs. Does anyone here have any experience (good or bad) with either of both of these hubs? Thank you, David Charlotte, NC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qRuzJGLH2Y0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
I think coming to the Riv forum to state you don't care about how the tubes are connected; or how good it looks; is ever so slightly baiting. The fact that the Roadeo is meticulously designed, built, painted, and ends up gorgeous..is at least half of what you're paying for. Nobody buys a Rivendell simply because it handles better. Joe I should buy one Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GLl4Y6Ahk3wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Best to consider the source in evaluating a comment or remark. Patrick is a (rightly) respected member of this group (Kelly, too, for that matter); to me, at least, that would argue for opting for the more constructive of two competing interpretations. But there's a world of difference between modestly edgy comments (perfectly acceptable to me, including a comment that one doesn't care how tubes are connected) and the sort of flaming which is blessedly absent from this forum. I think we mostly know it when we see it. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bernard Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 11:20 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1? I think coming to the Riv forum to state you don't care about how the tubes are connected; or how good it looks; is ever so slightly baiting. The fact that the Roadeo is meticulously designed, built, painted, and ends up gorgeous..is at least half of what you're paying for. Nobody buys a Rivendell simply because it handles better. Joe I should buy one Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GLl4Y6Ahk3wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
And Patrick knows darn well that it's the dead of winter; full of holiday stress and not enough riding; and thus the perfect time to throw a little bait to a frustrated pack of riders. The boy ain't stupid. ;-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IkQb1o3QMHAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
Oh man. All this talk of no-brainers - You guys have my credit card finger starting to itch! Does anyone know if a long reach caliper brake will work in front? I know the frame is designed for cantis but I kind of like the simplicity of a sidepull on a single-speed. I can always use the canti studs to mount a rack, so they're not just sittin' there. Also, what's the max width tire that will fit on the budget SO wheels - a Mavic Open Sport rim I think? Thanks, Pete (SingleSixtySidepullSam) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uX7b18Q0RnAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: New Year morning ride
Sounds like a great ride -- love to do it, boys. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Norman Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 9:37 PM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: New Year morning ride Hey Bobby, Montclair misses you..let's do that ride. BTW, what's the status of RivRideEast2? Myself and I'm sure, others are looking forward to it. The first was a great time and I've enjoyed reading posts here by some of the people I met there. I also have gotten the itch to do a S24O when the weather turns again. The sale was perfectly timed and I picked up a Platrack and sleeping bag. Any other eastsiders have some good ideas of where to ride and camp? Thanks, -Norman On Jan 3, 3:47 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: But what Montclair may lack in pure vertical climb it more than makes up for with its cool restaurants, music/theatre venues, celebrities and Complete Streets / cool bike vibe... and Norm Rosenbloom... Let's get together and ride... I've got a cool Montclair loop up through the Caldwells, mostly off-road. Peace, Montclair Bobby Birmingham MHS Class of '76 On Jan 1, 9:07 pm, Norman norr...@gmail.com wrote: Where I am in New Jersey we don't have high mountains and unspoiled rivers. But it was a relatively balmy 1/1 morning and I set out on my 1 year old Hillborne to do a one to two hour variation of one of the usual rides from my home. I thought to bring a camera and here are the results. Best wishes to all. Norman- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
I don't know about the brake. On my QB with Open Sport I'm currently running 700x40 Marathon Supremes, but I did run 700x50 Big Apples just fine. Scratch that itch! jim m wc ca On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote: Oh man. All this talk of no-brainers - You guys have my credit card finger starting to itch! Does anyone know if a long reach caliper brake will work in front? I know the frame is designed for cantis but I kind of like the simplicity of a sidepull on a single-speed. I can always use the canti studs to mount a rack, so they're not just sittin' there. Also, what's the max width tire that will fit on the budget SO wheels - a Mavic Open Sport rim I think? Thanks, Pete (SingleSixtySidepullSam) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uX7b18Q0RnAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First Chance 200K 1-1-12
Really nice images! I hope to be able to do this one year, if it works out with our family schedule. Ely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DYeWbHNggzQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration
My wife's Betty also has rubbing on the front/right tip of the fender when the bike steers to the right. The bike has 50mm Honjo installed with 35mm Soma Xpress tires. I kinda wish the Mark's rack had a boss, like the Mini front, which could be used to secure the front tip of the fender. The older version of Mark's rack came with a longer diving board plate, whose front tip can be used as a stay for the fender. But the longer version of the spring board is no longer being sold. Or maybe a washer needs to be loosened. I need to play around with it a bit more... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eq0qjc1ValAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivers, Bridges, and a Forest
A few days ago a buddy and I set out on an AHH and a LHT to explore the unfamiliar (to us) reaches of north Portland. Pictures show some of what we found... https://picasaweb.google.com/54canoe/NewYearsEveDayRide2011?authuser=0feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/54canoe/NewYearsEveDayRide2011?authuser=0feat=directlink --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Thy-eQ4DPwEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 62cm Rivendell Quickbeam in Silver, $1200
Hello Folks, Thanks for the discussion on selling a bike. It was informative. After a discussion with the wife , I am selling my Quickbeam. I am selling it for the price I purchased it from John on this forum at $1200. I thought I would give the forum first crack before I put it on Ebay. If it is not sold by Sunday evening, it is going on Ebay. The bike is in great condition, barely ridden, and the pictures show. I am in Monterey, CA for local pickup. I will ship it out anywhere in US for actual cost of box, shipping, etc, which I am estimating at $120. In person, I will accept cash, USPS money order, but no personal check. If through mail, I will accept Paypal, USPS money order, but no personal check (If you send a money order, I will ship the bike when payment is received.)Below if a list of components and a link for pictures. If you want any additional pictures let me know. http://www.flickr.com/photos/47326059@N08/sets/72157628706557715/ Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem 25.4mm with 11cm of reach Nitto Albatross Bar 55cm - 25.4mm Black Brooks B17 Saddle Tektro MTB 3.0 Shifters Tektro CR720 canti Brakes (Front and Rear) Tange Levin Headset Shinamo 105 front hub on Mavic Open Sport Rims Suzue Rear Hub on Mavic Open Sport Rims Jack Brown 700x33.3 Blue Label on both rims Sugino XD2 Quickmeam 40tx32t Crank with 175mm arms Shimano BB-UN54 Bottom Bracket Shimano MX30 16t Freewheel MKS Grip King Pedals -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qrBGWmpLCUcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Quickbeam vs SimpleOne
The SO has a kickstand plate where the QB has a tube, down between the chainstays, behind the bottom bracket. I think that's about it... I saw a sweet SO at Berkeley Bowl today, on my way home, with nice soft tape on moustache bars. It had the ginormous Wald basket and platracks to hold it up. I looked for someone inside, carting a large Sackville basket bag, but the crush of seasoned humanity was too great, I did not espy them. - Andrew, Berkeley On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 6:34 PM, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: Aside from the paint and country of origin, are there any tangible differences (geometry, fork, tubing, etc) between the Quickbeam and SimpleOne? I've ridden a QB and liked it, but have never tested a SimpleOne so I don't know how they compare. That sale is tempting. -nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Rivendell Rambouillet
I bought it from someone in LA who was selling it, he had it in pristine condition as he did not ride it often. He did not know what the specs are so I don't know. I have been to lazy myself to look, if you want to know what they are I can easily find it out myself. The amount of teeth on the crank chainrings and rear cassette were not a big deal to me as I just saw a bike I wanted at the time and just wanted to ride. After riding sometime with the rambouillet, and the type of riding I do I found that this bike is just not for me. The crank is a sugino but I'm not sure if it is the same as the XD shown on the rivbike website. I am sad to part with it but it is not the bike I am looking for and so I rather it go to someone else who wants the bike and will put it to good use. Duy On Dec 30 2011, 12:45 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: What is your history with this bike? Not knowing the number of teeth on the crank's chainrings is unusual for a Riv owner. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Patrick, I can't justify the cost of a new Roadeo to you, but I can explain my opinions regarding my feelings about the Roadeo being a dramatic improvement over the 531/sl frames of the past. By the way, I still own a Basso Loto SLX frameset. First, the my Roadeo frameset is lighter than my Basso frameset. Second, my Roadeo is much more stable on high speed turns( especially on ruff surface). Third, I have experienced shimmy on my Basso( the frame has very little lateral stiffness). With the modern large diameter, thin walled steel tubes, the Roadeo is very stiff laterally( no shimmy, whatsoever). However, the frameset still has the vertical springy,steel feeling. And this is with a fairly, stiff fork. Some people will not feel these differences, but to me, I notice this immediately. This may not justify the cost difference, but to me it was worth it. To each its own Don C. On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 6:59:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: OK: That's what I want to hear. Please give reasons -- details: handling, fit, comfort etc. -- as to why one might want to pay $4K minimum for a Roadeo compared to half or less for a nice, high end but old road bike like some of those mentioned. I love my customs' handling; the handling of the Sam Hill was disappointing; the Herse fit like my customs but didn't handle quite as well (tho' that may be due to my preference for higher trail); the '73 Motobecane was lighter, uglier and handled almost as well as the customs and fit not quite as well. The Falcon would probably have been a wonderfully fitting and handling bike if I had known (thanks to Grant's intervention) how to set it up. The Calfees and Treks and RB1s have been praised for their handling and fit. So please give details about why the Roadeo is the unquestioned reasonable choice. I am not interested in fenders or tires larger than 28, nor am I interested (for the purposes of this discussion) in fineness of joinery or cosmetic details. Just fit (or potential for fit) and, above all, handling. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Kelly Sleeper tksl...@gmail.com wrote: Unless its just to save money I don't believe the older race bike are equal or even close substitute for the Roadeo. My opinion of course.. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L7YA5FYtcS4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hsH0AdCTKk0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Waned: Rivendell NZ Zip T, X-large, dark color, new or used
Let me know if you'd like to sell the above shirt. I bought a large several years ago, wear it all the time, but now the armpits are tearing and Riv no longer has them in my size. Help or suggestions? Thanks, Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Suggestions on price please
We bought two Rambouillet bikes new in 2006 and love them. One is blue, 60cm, cost $2617, the other is green, 58cm, cost $2545. Although well ridden, they are kept indoors and are in excellent condition. Brooks saddles look pristine, as does the handlebar tape and just about everything else, although of course there are a few scratches. Unfortunately we are now living, and will be traveling soon, on our boat and they just take up too much room. We reluctantly need to sell them. Any suggestions on price? We live in the SF Bay Area. Thanks for your help. Charlotte -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Thanks for all the replies. I am by turns hurt, angered and amused (and edified) by turn this discussion took and the various responses to what was probably indeed rather naively particular questions, and I will respond with my own resolution to adopt Eric Platt's very worthy new year's resolution, to wag more and bark less. I suppose my questions were rather too particular for me to reasonably expect clear replies from everyone, but on the other hand I myself do have very clear ideas about how the various bikes I've ridden differ in handling from my two later customs (they are Rivs, as most of you know) which are my benchmarks for bike handling comparisons. I can say in detail how, for example, the Herse, Sam Hill and Motobecane handled differently. I suppose that the reasonable option, right now at any rate, is to get the necessary clamp on bits to add to my Joe gofast fixie and make it into a gearie; all the more in that I won't need more than one chainring. Or maybe not ... As for the Roadeo, the only possibility right now, anyway, is to have listmember Ryan Watson buy it, dislike it, and sell it to me at a steep discount. Happy new year to all from Patrick Moore who promises to analyze less and ride more in 2012. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:58 PM, dpco dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, I can't justify the cost of a new Roadeo to you, but I can explain my opinions regarding my feelings about the Roadeo being a dramatic improvement over the 531/sl frames of the past. By the way, I still own a Basso Loto SLX frameset. First, the my Roadeo frameset is lighter than my Basso frameset. Second, my Roadeo is much more stable on high speed turns( especially on ruff surface). Third, I have experienced shimmy on my Basso( the frame has very little lateral stiffness). With the modern large diameter, thin walled steel tubes, the Roadeo is very stiff laterally( no shimmy, whatsoever). However, the frameset still has the vertical springy,steel feeling. And this is with a fairly, stiff fork. Some people will not feel these differences, but to me, I notice this immediately. This may not justify the cost difference, but to me it was worth it. To each its own Don C. On Tuesday, January 3, 2012 6:59:01 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: OK: That's what I want to hear. Please give reasons -- details: handling, fit, comfort etc. -- as to why one might want to pay $4K minimum for a Roadeo compared to half or less for a nice, high end but old road bike like some of those mentioned. I love my customs' handling; the handling of the Sam Hill was disappointing; the Herse fit like my customs but didn't handle quite as well (tho' that may be due to my preference for higher trail); the '73 Motobecane was lighter, uglier and handled almost as well as the customs and fit not quite as well. The Falcon would probably have been a wonderfully fitting and handling bike if I had known (thanks to Grant's intervention) how to set it up. The Calfees and Treks and RB1s have been praised for their handling and fit. So please give details about why the Roadeo is the unquestioned reasonable choice. I am not interested in fenders or tires larger than 28, nor am I interested (for the purposes of this discussion) in fineness of joinery or cosmetic details. Just fit (or potential for fit) and, above all, handling. Thanks. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Kelly Sleeper tksl...@gmail.com wrote: Unless its just to save money I don't believe the older race bike are equal or even close substitute for the Roadeo. My opinion of course.. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/** msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/**L7YA5FYtcS4Jhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L7YA5FYtcS4J . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hsH0AdCTKk0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You
[RBW] Re: Suggestions on price please
$1200-$1500 seems to be the going range for those bikes on the second hand market. You might even find buyers on this list. Best of luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9HZLeo2LlI0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Upgrading my Trek 520?
I have a Trek 520 that I use for loaded touring: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/3030119147/ The bike is a 25 (~63 cm) frame (near traditional geometry), the largest that Trek made at the time. It's too small for me (as a point of reference, my AHH is a 67 cm frame and I was debating between that and the 69). I have the seatpost a touch higher than the minimum insertion line, a threadless stem extender, etc, and it's still just a mediocre fit. During my last visit to RivHQ I rode the Hunqapillar and really enjoyed the ride. After leaving I started to think about the possibility of upgrading and selling the Trek frame. I'm thinking of switching over all of the parts (mostly LX level stuff). The thing is, I really don't want this to turn into an expensive endeavor, so I'm trying to get a realistic picture of what it'd cost. * Is the Hunqapillar suitable for loaded touring as shown in the linked picture? How about the SH? The SH is cheaper, but I'm afraid that it's too similar in ride to my AHH, and I do want some variety. * Other than the stem and possibly handlebars (due to clamp diameter issues w/ quill stems), would the other parts be compatible? I'm thinking that I might also have problems w/ the BB spindle length and the f-der clamp diameter. Any other issues that I might be overlooking? The Trek uses a 135 mm rear hub and has V brakes. * Is the 64 cm Hunqapillar (largest size) notably bigger than the Trek? Same question for the SH. My guess is that it is due to the sloping top tube vs. the Trek's traditional geometry. Since I was only riding the Hunqapillar for the fun of it while visiting I didn't really think much about the fit, and it had Albatross bars and Big Apples, so it wasn't really set up the way my Trek is (though that might be worth considering as a touring setup). * How much do you think that I could reasonably expect to get for the Trek frame? It's is good condition, though shows the normal wear... a few minor scratches and light dings, nothing major, no dents, always stored in garage and parked indoors except while touring. Anything else that I might be overlooking? Thanks! -Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Patrick From my perspective the discussion went sideways because your position came off as: A Roadeo costs $4k I will not spend that much I want a used racing bike I challenge you to convince me that a used racing bike is guaranteed to make me unhappy in the ways that a $4k new Roadeo is guaranteed to make me happy Anything about tire clearance fenders, aesthetics, construction quality are explicitly off-limits That might not be a fair restatement of your intent, but it is a truthful summary of my perception of your position. I didn't engage because it looked to me like a rhetorical trap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EIDiCGiemxYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Rex That's exciting to plan out a touring bike that fits you properly! My opinions: Hilsen--Hillborne--Hunqa--Bombadil in ascending order of stoutness. The Bombadil would be ideal, but it's the most expensive. You seem to have the parts compatibility stuff mapped right. The front derailer aspect I overlooked on my first build was that there is so much BB drop and such a slack seat tube that a mountain bike front der hit the chainstay. Get your front der from Riv when you get the frameset. Another part might be the huge chainrings that road triple runs. Most Hunqas get a 24 36 48 or thereabouts. There might be a chainring clearance issue in your BB worries. Size, that's an empirical question. compare the numbers. Map them out on a huge sheet of paper. Grant taught us how to do that last summer, and I do it for every bike now. I'd wager the answer is yes, the big hunqa and big Bomba are much bigger than your Trek That 520 frameset would probably get you $200-$300. That's my vibe on the second hand market. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DBLObtQ02IEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Thanks for the thoughts... On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:35 AM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Hilsen--Hillborne--Hunqa--Bombadil in ascending order of stoutness. The Bombadil would be ideal, but it's the most expensive. Yeah, and out of my price range! :-) I already blew my budget on my AHH. I forgot to mention that the picture that I linked is about four years old and there were a few changes... I long ago replaced the stock 105 crankset [what a stupid choice on Trek's part!] with a compact triple (22-42), and an XT f-der, so that issue probably wouldn't matter. Which f-der did you end up with to avoid the compatibility issue? Another issue that I saw mentioned on the rivbike site is that the seattube diameter might be different, requiring a different seatpost, but that's relatively inexpensive (or, at least, it can be). Size, that's an empirical question. compare the numbers. Map them out on a huge sheet of paper. Grant taught us how to do that last summer, and I do it for every bike now. I'd wager the answer is yes, the big hunqa and big Bomba are much bigger than your Trek Do you have a link with instructions on how to map between dissimilar geometries? Did Grant post that somewhere? In the list archives perhaps? I'm quite familiar with my sizing needs with traditional geometry frames, but not so well versed in sloping TT frames. That 520 frameset would probably get you $200-$300. That's my vibe on the second hand market. That's what I was thinking. Not much, but probably just enough to cover parts and shipping, leaving me with just the frame price as the upgrade cost. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Suggestions on price please
Might want to check out this thread looking for a 60 cm Rambouillet frame and fork. He's in Lodi, CA I believe. http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch/browse_thread/thread/6e4ad153f0a996f3# On Jan 4, 10:57 am, Lola jimn...@gmail.com wrote: We bought two Rambouillet bikes new in 2006 and love them. One is blue, 60cm, cost $2617, the other is green, 58cm, cost $2545. Although well ridden, they are kept indoors and are in excellent condition. Brooks saddles look pristine, as does the handlebar tape and just about everything else, although of course there are a few scratches. Unfortunately we are now living, and will be traveling soon, on our boat and they just take up too much room. We reluctantly need to sell them. Any suggestions on price? We live in the SF Bay Area. Thanks for your help. Charlotte -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
I used the Campy Triple that Riv sells (on Sale right now!), on a Hillborne and a Bombadil. The Hunqa takes a 27.2 seatpost Grant's frame drawing tutorial was probably archived by somebody. It was all pdf's. I saved them somewhere, but it will be days before I get a chance to look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2JAmrLaqxLMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 62cm Rivendell Quickbeam in Silver, $1200
Wow, someone is going to get an awesome deal, that is incredible! Dave used to live in Monterrey and misses it Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: Mattt mattto...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 4:43:04 PM Subject: [RBW] 62cm Rivendell Quickbeam in Silver, $1200 Hello Folks, Thanks for the discussion on selling a bike. It was informative. After a discussion with the wife , I am selling my Quickbeam. I am selling it for the price I purchased it from John on this forum at $1200. I thought I would give the forum first crack before I put it on Ebay. If it is not sold by Sunday evening, it is going on Ebay. The bike is in great condition, barely ridden, and the pictures show. I am in Monterey, CA for local pickup. I will ship it out anywhere in US for actual cost of box, shipping, etc, which I am estimating at $120. In person, I will accept cash, USPS money order, but no personal check. If through mail, I will accept Paypal, USPS money order, but no personal check (If you send a money order, I will ship the bike when payment is received.) Below if a list of components and a link for pictures. If you want any additional pictures let me know. http://www.flickr.com/photos/47326059@N08/sets/72157628706557715/ Nitto Technomic Deluxe Stem 25.4mm with 11cm of reach Nitto Albatross Bar 55cm - 25.4mm Black Brooks B17 Saddle Tektro MTB 3.0 Shifters Tektro CR720 canti Brakes (Front and Rear) Tange Levin Headset Shinamo 105 front hub on Mavic Open Sport Rims Suzue Rear Hub on Mavic Open Sport Rims Jack Brown 700x33.3 Blue Label on both rims Sugino XD2 Quickmeam 40tx32t Crank with 175mm arms Shimano BB-UN54 Bottom Bracket Shimano MX30 16t Freewheel MKS Grip King Pedals -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qrBGWmpLCUcJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
When I built my original Bombadil, I used mountain bike drivetrain components exclusively. Front external BB with RaceFace cranks and XT front derailer with no issues at all. A MTB FD may not work with road/touring cranks, but if you stick to a MTB crankset and 22/32/44 chainrigns, it should be fully compatible although your high gearing will not be as high. Here's a photo: http://tinyurl.com/7hxya6f My Hunqapillar has the Sugino triple crankset that RBW sells with (I believe) the Micro FD they were selling at the time since they were out of the Campagnolo. I bought a spare Campagnolo tripple FD on the sale but when I got it, it was marked as 10speed. I'm guessing they are fully compatilbe with 9 speeds, but I'll have to check with them. I guess you also left the Atlantis out of consideration due to its cost, right? As a hefty rider, I can tell you that the Hunqapillar is wonderful to ride loaded. Right now it's my default option for heavy loaded rides such as S24Os. Go for the Hunqapillar, you won't regret it. Some Hunqapillars take 26.8 posts; mine does. I believe some may take the 27.2. My Betty was supposed to use the 26.8 but it slipped too much as soon as the bolt was loosened so I'm using a 27.2 instead; a bit of a tight fit but much better. René On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 12:35 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I used the Campy Triple that Riv sells (on Sale right now!), on a Hillborne and a Bombadil. The Hunqa takes a 27.2 seatpost Grant's frame drawing tutorial was probably archived by somebody. It was all pdf's. I saved them somewhere, but it will be days before I get a chance to look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2JAmrLaqxLMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?
That might work- use searchable terms in the body of the post, and
something descriptive and easy to sort in the Subject line:
Subject: Trail Database: [location, state, approx mileage]
e.g.,
Subject: Trail Database: Berkeley, CA, 12 miles
Then a fuller description and links in the body.
BTW, one of our local clubs uses this shorthand for describe rides:
http://www.grizzlypeakcyclists.org/rides/current.html
Cheers,
ts
berkeley
On Jan 4, 12:47 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I like that by posting links here, we can use any mapping site we
like, which seems 5x as inclusive.
A short description of length, difficulty, and location, along with
the link is probably useful for long-term searchability. City, County/
Parish, state, length, road surface ('mixed terrain'), and features
like ocean or mountains might be good keywords to include. If
they're posted to this thread, database would filter for it, since
that's not a word I see on the list very often.
Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Jan 3, 5:25 pm, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote:
Strava is tied to GPS recording, and seems a little too oriented to
look how fast I did this climb for my taste. The home page says
Track your progress and compete against friends. Not really the
attitude I expect prevails around this list. I don't need to share my
watt output with the world to share a nice bike route.
Bikely or Map My Ride might work better for route sharing and
searching without a competitive attitude. Both have some tagging
capability, but mixed terrain'' doesn't seem to be a category either
has caught on to.
Gmap-pedometer is a pretty basic tool that allows you to build and
save routes in Google maps without logins or memberships. The route
names are strictly numeric as far as I can tell, which makes searching
them difficult, but they can be shared publicly. Here's one (paved)
route I created as an example:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=3765211
Bill
On Jan 3, 8:44 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, I've never figured out how to save routes the way one could in
Yahoo Maps.
But this is quite cool: you use its smartphone app or a GPS, and it
maps your route, which you can post, share, etc.
http://www.strava.com/rides/my-revenge-x2-at-montezuma-grade-2856587
Notice that you can get avg speed in various segments. I'm guessing
they're crowd-sourced named.
Searching isn't great, it seems. I wonder if it'd be possible to
create a public Riv-ish collection of routes.
Tse-Sung
Berkeley
On Jan 3, 12:26 am, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I made a map, added the phrase Rivendell Friendly to it, and tried
to find it, both in GMaps, and in GGoogle. There doesn't seem to be
any searchability in personal maps, even if they're public. Ideally, I
could zoom in on Orange County, type Rivendell Ride in the maps
search and find five or six mapped rides, but I can't. I imagine
that's on the agenda for Google, someday, but not today.
I agree with Tse-Tsung that a database of Rivendell rides would be
dynamite. I like easy, I like central, so I'd vote for a thread here.
Here's a test map for a route I saved: a mixed terrain ride from
McMinnville, Oregon to the Flying M ranch, where bike events are
sometimes held.
So: link, description, location-specific
keywords.http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=208780260535319597769.0004b57dbfa...
Bicycle route from Tommy's Bike Shop in McMinnville to the Flying M
Ranch in Yamhill. Mixed Terrain, Rivendell friendly Willamette Valley
ride. Lots of gravel, some climbing. Staying off of Westside Road,
because there's no shoulder, low visibility, and the hay trucks go
70mph.
McMinnville, Carlton, Yamhill, Oregon, 97128, Southwest of Portland,
OR.
Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Jan 2, 2:04 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com
wrote:
I used Bikely a few years ago, but now I've mostly plotted things out
in Google Maps, usually after the ride. My MO is to set out, get lost,
get found, and have a good time.
I just tagged a Google map I made yesterday (in 97128 zip) as
Rivendell friendly, but I can't see how to search public maps. It
may just take a while to propagate. If it works, we can simply make
our maps, tag them consistently, and done. Ideally, you can go to
Carlton OR on Google Maps and search for 'rivendell.' It's a mixed-
terrain route from the McMinnville bike shop to the Flying M ranch (I
want to attend a bike thing there in May).
Philip
Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com
On Jan 2, 10:54 am, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote:
hi all,
Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where
people have posted or can post trail
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Crap! My apologies for claiming 27.2 on the Hunqa. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GPC9LkrxROEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
I thought it was a fair question. I stayed out of it because I had no input. The couple posts with descriptions of the handling differences between Roadeos and other light, fast bikes were interesting and instructive to me. It is wintertime, though, and I've been discarding some of my replies without posting them. Maybe not enough of them! Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Jan 4, 11:18 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick From my perspective the discussion went sideways because your position came off as: A Roadeo costs $4k I will not spend that much I want a used racing bike I challenge you to convince me that a used racing bike is guaranteed to make me unhappy in the ways that a $4k new Roadeo is guaranteed to make me happy Anything about tire clearance fenders, aesthetics, construction quality are explicitly off-limits That might not be a fair restatement of your intent, but it is a truthful summary of my perception of your position. I didn't engage because it looked to me like a rhetorical trap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I suppose my questions were rather too particular for me to reasonably expect clear replies from everyone, but on the other hand I myself do have very clear ideas about how the various bikes I've ridden differ in handling from my two later customs (they are Rivs, as most of you know) which are my benchmarks for bike handling comparisons. I can say in detail how, for example, the Herse, Sam Hill and Motobecane handled differently. What could a Roadeo give you that your two custom Rivs don't already do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
Gears and coasting! Patrick otherwise mum forthwith on this topic Moore On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:43 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I suppose my questions were rather too particular for me to reasonably expect clear replies from everyone, but on the other hand I myself do have very clear ideas about how the various bikes I've ridden differ in handling from my two later customs (they are Rivs, as most of you know) which are my benchmarks for bike handling comparisons. I can say in detail how, for example, the Herse, Sam Hill and Motobecane handled differently. What could a Roadeo give you that your two custom Rivs don't already do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Ibex Medium wool/plastic mix sports vest, $35 shipped CONUS
Once again it's a Medium and it is very nice with zip up neck and drawstring waist but a wee bit too small for me with a six footer's torso and size 17 neck. The body is of wool but it has stretchable plastic wind panels. Mostly red, some black. Well used but still very usable and presentable. Note this: I think it is *not*, repeat *not* cycling specific since it is not cut long in back like my other cycling vests. This hasn't kept me from using it for several seasons but it will work better for someone a bit lighter than I at 170, an inch or two shorter and with a size 15 to 16 neck. Photos upon request (to the serious inquirer only. No levity allowed). I just got a nice replacement as a gift. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:42 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Gears and coasting! Seems to me I recall they came from the Maker equipped with both, until some Vandal took a dremel to them and ground off the fittings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
But ahhh, the thrill of it! No, the '99 was built as a fixie and the '03 was converted by Dave Porter. I want to keep the '03 as a commuter/errand bike (since 2/3 of my riding is that sort) because it has rack and fender braze ons, but perhaps I can convert the '99 to rear gears. Unless I convert it into a trike ... On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:04 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:42 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Gears and coasting! Seems to me I recall they came from the Maker equipped with both, until some Vandal took a dremel to them and ground off the fittings. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo or RB1?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 16:07 -0700, PATRICK MOORE wrote: But ahhh, the thrill of it! No, the '99 was built as a fixie and the '03 was converted by Dave Porter. I want to keep the '03 as a commuter/errand bike (since 2/3 of my riding is that sort) because it has rack and fender braze ons, but perhaps I can convert the '99 to rear gears. Unless I convert it into a trike ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUmZp8pR1ucob=av2e Amy's singing your song, Patrick... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
I saw a 2008 Trek Catalog that shows geometries on the next to last page. The 62cm Hunqa (largest size) is indeed a larger bike than a 25 Trek, but the 64cm Bombadil is more similar in size to your 67cm Homer and especially closer to the 69cm Homer you considered. http://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/2008/catalog/road/road_en.pdf By the way, beautiful color on the Homer! What's that shade called? I notice in your photos that you have racks front and back now on your Homer. Have you ever tried it fully loaded? I'd be curious how well it would compare to the 520. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Roger rogerdhod...@gmail.com wrote: I saw a 2008 Trek Catalog that shows geometries on the next to last page. The 62cm Hunqa (largest size) is indeed a larger bike than a 25 Trek, but the 64cm Bombadil is more similar in size to your 67cm Homer and especially closer to the 69cm Homer you considered. http://www.trekbikes.com/pdf/2008/catalog/road/road_en.pdf Yeah... too bad the Bombadil is more expensive. :-) Actually, I noticed that the SH isn't cheaper than the Hunqa in the larger sizes, so that factor is removed from the equation. Maybe I should just keep my eye out for a used 64 cm Bombadil frame... Looking at the link that you sent (thanks), it looks like the effective height of the top headset bearing would be almost 6 cm higher, which would be a HUGE improvement, especially when combined with a threaded stem for adjustability and a Nitto Technomic! By the way, beautiful color on the Homer! What's that shade called? Thanks. I fretted over the color for 2 months while waiting to receive it, and still fret now and then wondering if I could have found a better color. :-) It's 5031, Phantom Grey Metallic. I think that it works well with the shiny bits, a good complement to the chrome/polished aluminum. I notice in your photos that you have racks front and back now on your Homer. Have you ever tried it fully loaded? I'd be curious how well it would compare to the 520. To be honest, I haven't actually carried much on the front rack, and my loads have been just commuting loads in the rear panniers. An occasional jacket/sweater, my light bar, etc is all that I've carried on the front... I mostly like the fact that it stabilizes the front fender so that it doesn't rattle nor sway and rub the tire! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Trail Recommendation Database?
When I lived in Berkeley, my favorite mixed-terrain route was to take the seaview trail from Inspiration Point up to Grizzly Peak. The on-road parts of the ride varied, but it was typical to go up Spruce and come down Claremont or Tunnel. No Rivendells back then, so I did it on a 700c hybrid Miyata. Horace. On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: Yes- my first 'country bike' ride. It started out pretty downhill, then rolling hills. Must do again, or try variants; head further east, or the Marin headlands, etc. It's nice to be cruising along in the wilderness, no car traffic. Tse-Sung On Jan 2, 5:07 pm, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: I'll have to try this ride sometime... seems like a lot of fun! René On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, TSW tsesun...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, Sorry if this has been discussed already- is there a place where people have posted or can post trail recommendations? Could be a thread here... or a Google spreadsheet perhaps? I know there must be online resources... I was thinking something that's a bit more Riv- ish- country biking and all that- a mix of road and not terribly technical off-road. TIA, Tse-Sung Berkeley ps- yesterday, in our neck o' the woods, I started at Inspiration Point in Tilden and took a trail down into Wildcat Canyon, then took the Wildcat Creek trail all the way to the Alvarado Staging Area in El Sobrante. A really nice ride. Met some very nice dogs too :-) More: http://g.co/maps/dq3c7 Hit the 3D button on the left, to fly it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
+1 that your phantom grey metallic Homer is really a great color. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qvxibLm3mSoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
BTW, just found a more recent picture of the Trek 520, which I uploaded here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rexkerr/6638127641/ Shows the current setup better... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rebate Reflex
Got the e-mail that the rebates were up, and immediately returned to the sale for a few more things. MUSA pants, the Campy front changer, a dirt drop stem for my Bombadil Bullmoose/Noodle bar-swap option and added some small non-sale things while I was at it. Two packages from Rivendell en route at one time - life is good. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6h7MOV3LIf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Rex, looking at the photos of your Trek, are you sure it's a 25? Most of my bikes are that size, and they all seem to have a much longer head tube. If not, that would explain a lot. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jw2nUbxSriQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?
I was just riding my Rivendell home from work, climbing a big hill, doing fine, when suddenly this truck intentionally blew by me, inches away from making contact. I could tell they did it intentionally. They swerved over to come close to me, and then swerved back into the center of the lane. I really wanted to see their license plate number, but they were driving at a high speed (also intentionally unsafe). I climbed the rest of the hill thinking about it, and it was just another reminder that all of us reading this are on the same side in the grand scheme of things. Let's continue to presume that others have good will towards us when we discuss the details in cycling. Be safe, Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Rex, looking at the photos of your Trek, are you sure it's a 25? Most of my bikes are that size, and they all seem to have a much longer head tube. If not, that would explain a lot. I haven't measured it, but I did buy it new, and it feels and looks about the same as other bikes that I have measured which I know to be ~62 cm. Now you've got me wondering... I'll measure it tonight, but perhaps it looks small because of the uncut steerer with extension and the long seatpost extension? It could also be an illusion... when I look at my AHH the headtube looks short to me, but when I measure it it's within a centimeter of the length of the headtube on my old Schwinn, yet the Schwinn looked insanely long, which I think had to do with the color and the fact that it used traditional diameter tubing for the downtube, but the Trek and AHH both use oversized tubing for the downtube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rebate Reflex
Too bad they sold out of those brand V panniers I had my eye on... the grid grey ones might have also been a good match for my AHH... oh well, I would have felt guilty using my rebates on zero-margin items anyhow. :-) On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Got the e-mail that the rebates were up, and immediately returned to the sale for a few more things. MUSA pants, the Campy front changer, a dirt drop stem for my Bombadil Bullmoose/Noodle bar-swap option and added some small non-sale things while I was at it. Two packages from Rivendell en route at one time - life is good. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6h7MOV3LIf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Auld Lange Syne
I like the black Riv cap. Too bad they don't have that style anymore. On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:51 PM, jimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: In the spirit of the season this has been placed on 'da Flickr': http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/6625082641/in/photostream per usual my goals for this year are to 'ride lots'. …and commute even more. Happy New Year!, JimS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Rex, I watch the old Treks on ebay pretty closely, and I think your plan makes great sense economically. The 520s with tig welded frames like yours are very popular, sell quickly, and I am always amazed that framesets in general seem to sell pretty close in price to fully built bikes. I checked my saved list and saw two built up bikes that recently sold, one for $785 and another for $520. The $785 bike had very low miles (300-400) on it. Yours looks to be a very nice color and well cared for, so I would say you shold be able to sell the frame/ fork with bottom bracket and headset for somewhere in the $350 - $450 range. If you can hold off til early spring when the itch to ride kicks in, you may be able to do a bit better. I see no reason that most of your parts could not be reused on a new Riv frame. Good luck, and let us know how it works out. Bill Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rebate Reflex
Me too. A small rebate led to some resupplying on my favorite things, like Jack Brown Greens. Glad I made the order. On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:13 PM, Marty wrote: Got the e-mail that the rebates were up, and immediately returned to the sale for a few more things. MUSA pants, the Campy front changer, a dirt drop stem for my Bombadil Bullmoose/Noodle bar-swap option and added some small non-sale things while I was at it. Two packages from Rivendell en route at one time - life is good. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6h7MOV3LIf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Half-step + granny gearing...
I've got a couple half-step bikes and find that I rarely use the half- step. Usually the full step is quite sufficient, however, there are times when just a little bit higher or lower gearing is a nice option...especially on long, undulating rides. I can't imagine shifting through the whole range using all the half-steps...kind of like pretending to be a semi-truck driverr, shift, r, shift, rr shift, etc. etc. etc. (might try it this evening!!). Rob On Jan 4, 2:08 am, newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I used to have a half-step+granny gearing on my Sequoia (but went to a touring triple now). I use an 8-speed in the back with the DO spacing spread to 130. I have to agree that with an 8-speed, you definitely *do not* need the half-step/granny setup. To really leverage half-step gearing you're just going to be shifting almost twice as often and would have to be really, really finicky about cadence. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Rex, that's a great color on your Hilsen Wasn't the bike-design class archived over on Cyclofiend's site somewhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kTrezwXMMhcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rebate Reflex
I'd feel a bit bad using my rebate for sale things too. I put in a small order pre-sale, and two more in-sale, so I guess I'm doing my bit to help. I'll save the rebate to ease the pain of returning to full-price shopping next week! I'm glad Riv is distilling their product line. I've recently felt they were spread a little thin, but I sure hope they don't need to embrace the full compliment of retail gimmicks to keep afloat. They have always offered good stuff at fair prices, and one would hope that's always good enough. Pete SingleSixtySidepullSam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q-CpY5lr1xYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
Found it, bottom of the pdf page: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/pdf/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/25bOc6qa3ZEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration
Hi Chris, I had this problem too, i had a Nitto Mini Front and when i switched to a Nitto Campee Front i lost that same boss up front. I came up with my own DIY solution, i used an extra daruma bolt and a ziptie to secure it to the cross section of the rack, it doesn't look as clean but is rock solid. On Jan 3, 1:17 pm, Chris cch...@gmail.com wrote: My wife's Betty also has rubbing on the front/right tip of the fender when the bike steers to the right. The bike has 50mm Honjo installed with 35mm Soma Xpress tires. I kinda wish the Mark's rack had a boss, like the Mini front, which could be used to secure the front tip of the fender. The older version of Mark's rack came with a longer diving board plate, whose front tip can be used as a stay for the fender. But the longer version of the spring board is no longer being sold. Or maybe a washer needs to be loosened. I need to play around with it a bit more... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?
Jim, I believe we all have had similar experiences. A recent law was passed here in Georgia that requires motorists to give cyclists at least three feet clearance, but it remains to be seen whether the police will actually enforce it, and publicity to educate the motoring public about the new law has been sorely lacking. I was once buzzed on an uphill by a huge black SUV, and I moved over toward the center of the lane thinking that might dissuade the next idiot from trying the same stunt. Well, a sheriff's car pulled me over to lecture me for not riding far enough to the right. I was tempted to ask him how many cars he had pulled over in his career for buzzing cyclists too close, but I figured arguing with the long arm of the law might not be a good idea. Thanks for the reminder to be careful out there, and to be respectful of others on the forum because life's just too short. Bill Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: (What's So Funny 'Bout) Peace, Love, and Understanding?
Funny side note: about a minute ago, at the instant I clicked on your e-mail, the characters on the Law Order episode on my tv mentioned a character named Bill Carter. On Jan 4, 2012, at 7:07 PM, Bill Carter wrote: Jim, I believe we all have had similar experiences. A recent law was passed here in Georgia that requires motorists to give cyclists at least three feet clearance, but it remains to be seen whether the police will actually enforce it, and publicity to educate the motoring public about the new law has been sorely lacking. I was once buzzed on an uphill by a huge black SUV, and I moved over toward the center of the lane thinking that might dissuade the next idiot from trying the same stunt. Well, a sheriff's car pulled me over to lecture me for not riding far enough to the right. I was tempted to ask him how many cars he had pulled over in his career for buzzing cyclists too close, but I figured arguing with the long arm of the law might not be a good idea. Thanks for the reminder to be careful out there, and to be respectful of others on the forum because life's just too short. Bill Carter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rebate Reflex
On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:43:24 PM UTC-5, Rex Kerr wrote: Too bad they sold out of those brand V panniers I had my eye on... the grid grey ones might have also been a good match for my AHH... oh well, I would have felt guilty using my rebates on zero-margin items anyhow. :-) I felt guilty about buying anything that was on sale, actually. But, there were some things that I'd have waited on to buy later, that the sale goaded me into spending a bit now (which is when they needed it). I really liked the khaki, but not as keen on the nylon bits as the leather... the olive ones w/ leather, I like the leather trim, but not the olive color so much...I'd kept hoping that, once I'm ready to buy 'em, that they might have khakileather ones available. When I saw the V ones on sale, though, I wish I could have gone ahead and bought 'em to set aside until I needed them, but, it wasn't really an ideal time for me to buy them. SO... when they sold out, I didn't feel guilty for not buying them. Same w/ the Bullmoose. I'm still stunned it was on the cut list. I can see thinning color selections, etc., but, the Bullmoose... it seems as if the Hunqa and the Bomba have lost a keen option... But, Riv has to do what it has to do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mx7rFic-AbAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:56 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Found it, bottom of the pdf page: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/pdf/index.html Great, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Upgrading my Trek 520?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 6:20 PM, Bill Carter billcar...@gmail.com wrote: [...] The 520s with tig welded frames like yours are very popular, sell quickly, and I am always amazed that framesets in general seem to sell pretty close in price to fully built bikes. Good to know... that's one thing that I'm constantly telling people of when they're shocked by the price of my AHH (I wish they'd just stop asking!!), that building up a bike from parts is MUCH more expensive than a pre-built bike, and that if I'd been content with an off the shelf mixture of parts it would have probably been cheaper to just buy a compatible bike, strip it, and sell the frame... it's good to see that I'm not completely off base when I say that! If you can hold off til early spring when the itch to ride kicks in, you may be able to do a bit better. I'm itching to ride right now, but agreed to drive since I was working late today! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Frustration
I'm not sure what you are referring to. Both my Mark's Racks (on the AHH and the Betty) have 2 bolts on the flat section that holds the rack in the middle and goes into the brake hole in the fork crown. I use one of these to stabilize the front of the fender. Has anything changed recently? René On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, I had this problem too, i had a Nitto Mini Front and when i switched to a Nitto Campee Front i lost that same boss up front. I came up with my own DIY solution, i used an extra daruma bolt and a ziptie to secure it to the cross section of the rack, it doesn't look as clean but is rock solid. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
Not with the stock brakes. Just not gonna happen. I think the flyer is overly optimistic. SKS allow for more wiggle room than metal, maybe. But not much For me, the limitations worked with the design of the bicycle. While the Rom/Ram shines with 35s on mixed terrain rides, it was designed around those middle-reach brakes. It think the bike really shines with 28s. This was when the Atlantis was the Atlantis, and the Saluki was pulling country bike duty, and the Rom/Ram were versatileroad bikes. This was before all bikes did all things. So, I'd say if you want fat tires and fenders, spring for an AHH. Ride the Romulus as the classic road bike it is. On Jan 4, 8:02 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rebate Reflex
I'm not sure I understand how this is working. How does one see all the purchases they've made in 2011. For that matter, all the purchased they've made ever? thanks Jason On Jan 4, 10:43 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 4, 2012 8:43:24 PM UTC-5, Rex Kerr wrote: Too bad they sold out of those brand V panniers I had my eye on... the grid grey ones might have also been a good match for my AHH... oh well, I would have felt guilty using my rebates on zero-margin items anyhow. :-) I felt guilty about buying anything that was on sale, actually. But, there were some things that I'd have waited on to buy later, that the sale goaded me into spending a bit now (which is when they needed it). I really liked the khaki, but not as keen on the nylon bits as the leather... the olive ones w/ leather, I like the leather trim, but not the olive color so much... I'd kept hoping that, once I'm ready to buy 'em, that they might have khakileather ones available. When I saw the V ones on sale, though, I wish I could have gone ahead and bought 'em to set aside until I needed them, but, it wasn't really an ideal time for me to buy them. SO... when they sold out, I didn't feel guilty for not buying them. Same w/ the Bullmoose. I'm still stunned it was on the cut list. I can see thinning color selections, etc., but, the Bullmoose... it seems as if the Hunqa and the Bomba have lost a keen option... But, Riv has to do what it has to do -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
On 1/4/12, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Not with the stock brakes. Just not gonna happen. I think the flyer is overly optimistic. SKS allow for more wiggle room than metal, maybe. But not much For me, the limitations worked with the design of the bicycle. While the Rom/Ram shines with 35s on mixed terrain rides, it was designed around those middle-reach brakes. It think the bike really shines with 28s. This was when the Atlantis was the Atlantis, and the Saluki was pulling country bike duty, and the Rom/Ram were versatileroad bikes. This was before all bikes did all things. So, I'd say if you want fat tires and fenders, spring for an AHH. Ride the Romulus as the classic road bike it is. On Jan 4, 8:02 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
I ran 32 Paselas without fenders for some most-excellent trail riding, and 35s would've worked, too. But not with fenders. You'll inevitably face various versions of tire rub, and particle-trapping under the fork. I did do a bodge of cut SKS fenders over the 32s for a while: fenders in front and behind the fork and seatstay bridge, no fender material actually under either. It successfully kept some water off bike-and-body, but it wasn't pretty. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PXkJE7YTk7IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
What about the Grand Bois Cerf 28s? This is my go-fast bike but I'm thinking of doing my first 200k brevet this spring and think fenders would be a good idea. Just curious as to what will be the best fender/tire combo. Not looking to turn it into a fat tire tractor as my Sam takes care of that (although I am coming to view it as a place to store the parts that I ultimately will put on an AHH-- sigh). On Jan 4, 9:17 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Not with the stock brakes. Just not gonna happen. I think the flyer is overly optimistic. SKS allow for more wiggle room than metal, maybe. But not much For me, the limitations worked with the design of the bicycle. While the Rom/Ram shines with 35s on mixed terrain rides, it was designed around those middle-reach brakes. It think the bike really shines with 28s. This was when the Atlantis was the Atlantis, and the Saluki was pulling country bike duty, and the Rom/Ram were versatileroad bikes. This was before all bikes did all things. So, I'd say if you want fat tires and fenders, spring for an AHH. Ride the Romulus as the classic road bike it is. On Jan 4, 8:02 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fender Frustration
One thing the Hetre has done is create a lot of noises and tight clearances for the the 650B denizens whose Kogswells, Ebisus, and Rivendells were spec'd for around 37mm - which was all that was available about 2007. I agree with Ryan - after riding the Lierres, if you want supple casing and a fast, light ride, just get that tire and save yourself the headache. Hetres are great tires. But they require a lot of frame-design fidgeting with fenders that not even most custom builders can pull off cleanly. Or you get the gaping yaw of the Rawland. Here's the Protovelo with comfortable clearances with Lierres: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/6592022665/in/photostream Hetres were fun, but a royal pain and best abandoned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fenders/Tires for Rom
On a brevet I would choose the Challenge Parigi-Roubaix at 27mm. Plenty of comfort, and a damn fast tire. Maybe more quality control than the GB, although I haven't been paying attention to that discussion much (or any internet bikeyness for that matter) lately. Paselas work great, but the 28s can be a bit rigid. Especially with TG. I have 28mm Continental Ultra Sports on my Riv Road and those are surprisingly comfortable. I'd go with the Challenges, though. Those with the 45mm Honjos would give you plenty of clearance (I would guess), functionality, and style. Good luck on the randonee! On Jan 4, 9:45 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: What about the Grand Bois Cerf 28s? This is my go-fast bike but I'm thinking of doing my first 200k brevet this spring and think fenders would be a good idea. Just curious as to what will be the best fender/tire combo. Not looking to turn it into a fat tire tractor as my Sam takes care of that (although I am coming to view it as a place to store the parts that I ultimately will put on an AHH-- sigh). On Jan 4, 9:17 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: Not with the stock brakes. Just not gonna happen. I think the flyer is overly optimistic. SKS allow for more wiggle room than metal, maybe. But not much For me, the limitations worked with the design of the bicycle. While the Rom/Ram shines with 35s on mixed terrain rides, it was designed around those middle-reach brakes. It think the bike really shines with 28s. This was when the Atlantis was the Atlantis, and the Saluki was pulling country bike duty, and the Rom/Ram were versatileroad bikes. This was before all bikes did all things. So, I'd say if you want fat tires and fenders, spring for an AHH. Ride the Romulus as the classic road bike it is. On Jan 4, 8:02 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: The flyer indicates it can take up to a 35 with a fender,... http://cyclofiend.com/rbw/romulus/romflyer/03.html Maybe I need to consider a larger fender? On Jan 3, 1:41 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote: 28mm seems to be the practical limit with fenders on the Ram/Rom. On Jan 3, 11:50 am, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I ran SKS35s with 28 Ruffy Tuffys. There's know way you're gonna get 32s on the front with the stock Shimano brakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
