[RBW] Re: Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[Mike]

On May 25, 5:43 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt <54ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Assuming the Bosco works out on the BigD, the Albas will go on the Hilsen.
>
> Andy "about to get boscoed" Schmidt
>

Who knows, maybe you'll have to get a second set of Boscos for the
Hilsen.

Rene, I really like the looks of those on the Hunqapillar. I'll be
curious to hear back from you and others after more miles on the bars.

--mike

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[RBW] Amos/San Marcos

[rcnute]

Just test rode one.  What a great bike!  Pretty too.

Ryan

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[RBW] Winds, head and tail; cadence, slow; hooks, good.

[Mojo]

Patrick, I am in your fare city visiting me wee mum. I am also preparing for 
Ride the Rockies. So at 6am I left Four Hills and climbed up to Sandia Crest. 
It was a lovely morning, just under 60 miles RT, with headwinds both ways at 
times. The smoke had mixed out significantly by 11. The Riv road was great as 
usual except for shiverinduced shimmy starting down from the top.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

I'm most curious about the forward "aero" position. Good to hear you like 
it, Rene. A 58 Bocso bar is on it's way for my Big Dummy. Currently I have 
Alba-bars on the BD and use the forward position as much as the regular 
position. I want to try the Boscos to get the normal position a little 
closer to me but hope to retain some sort of regular use aero/power 
position. Among other things (like taking the family 
camping- if the alba-bars aren't obvious enough, 
look for the bike with the 
American flag... that's us. Also, a keen observer will see the wife's Betty 
Foy in the video.) the BD is my grocery getter and my house is uphill from 
the grocery store... i.e. coast down empty and pedal up with a load.  

Assuming the Bosco works out on the BigD, the Albas will go on the Hilsen. 

Andy "about to get boscoed" Schmidt

On Friday, May 25, 2012 3:23:24 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>
> I took delivery of the new Bosco Rubbe Bullmoose bar today and proceeded 
> to install it on my Hunqapillar. *http://tinyurl.com/7bmmkfl*
> *
> *
> Initial impressions:
> - They are beautiful. I love the Bullmoose configuration and while it 
> restricts further adjustments except for height, I believe it's an optimal 
> position and are very happy to trade off the ability to rotate the bar for 
> the added stiffness and beauty.
> - They have a lot of rise and a fairly short quill. I have inserted them 
> fully, leaving just a tiny gap so they don't rub on the top of the headset 
> and on the Hunqapillar at least, I don't think I need them any higher at 
> all. After more rides I'll be able to tell whether they are more 
> comfortable for me than the Bullmoose bars I had, but I don't think their 
> height will change.
> - Upright position is a bit "surprising" to my body. Can't tell for sure 
> after just riding them in the street in front of my house for a short 
> while, but it seems my back is more relaxed, there is less pressure on my 
> hands and I can slide them forward and backwards easily. Can't say for sure 
> about hand or neck pain yet.
> - Versatile hand positioning. I installed the leather grips I had on the 
> Bullmoose bars and while these are more suitable to keep the hands on a 
> single spot, the bar configuration allows me to easily slide them forward 
> while still having plenty of flat section to adjust to the speed I'm 
> riding. Additionally, if I want to get "aereo" or if there is a strong 
> headwind, I can comfortably place my hands on the front flat section while 
> having the grips support my elbows for a very confident position. My 
> initial impression is that they are much more comfortable and versatile 
> (for me) than the Albatross bars I tried a while back and ended up selling.
> - They are wide. This means that I'm not poking myself on the ends of the 
> bar when making tight turns, getting off the bike, etc. I'm big and I fit 
> very comfortably inside the bars. It takes a while to get used to maneuver 
> the bike with the hands behind the line of the head tube but it's not a big 
> deal.
> - Not surprisingly, I had to adjust the tilt of my saddle to support the 
> more upright position, which means there is more weight on my butt.
> - Need to lengthen the brake cable/housing for the front brake but it will 
> work for now.
>
> Over the long weekend I'll do some longer rides and cruise around Palo 
> Alto to form a better opinion.
>
> Happy Memorial Weekend!
>
> René
>
>
>

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[RBW] New Tire Trial: Rubena V66 Flash APS

[b hamon]

For the last few weeks I've been trying out a new city/commuting tire: Rubena's 
V-66 Flash APS ("Anti-Puncture System"), 26 x 1.75.It is vaguely similar in 
look and tread pattern to the old-style Schwalbe Marathon (before they changed 
both their tread and their compound this last year). It also costs about half 
of what the Marathon retails for. Having ridden the 1.75 for awhile now I may 
be inclined to go down to the narrower 1.5 just to see if there's a noticable 
difference in ride feel. It certainly doesn't feel as sluggish as the newer 
version of the standard Marathon and so far I haven't had any flats.
Given the choice in terms of ride quality and wear, the Rubena seems to be a 
decent tire for the money and I think I'd opt for it over the Marathon. 
http://www.rubenatires.com/v66-flash/
I haven't talked with anyone who's running these in 700c yet but if anyone is 
and wants to chime in, feel free. 
Beth in PDX
http://www.reverbnation.com/bethhamon

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[PATRICK MOORE]

I have to admit that 10 steady miles on the hooks, despite the
now-higher bar (3 cm below saddle, up from 4-5) and shallow drop (125
mm) required willpower. 7 is fine, by 8 I am getting a little
restless, but I wanted to see if I could do the whole distance without
getting up. Silly, I guess, but around here, the hooks are like
shifting gears into a wind. Heck, way back when I was in my late 30s I
had my bars 5 (five) inches (inches) below saddle -- pure ignorance
about how to set up a bike. But at 57 I am a lot stiffer than I was.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:35 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> I'm sure the ability to hold that position for 10 miles is completely up to
> the rider's flexibility. I know I probably couldn't, but if you like riding
> in the drops and having the handlebar lower than your saddle, you could do
> it. There is plenty of support for the arms and hands in this position,
> whereas I cannot find an equivalent option on the Bullmoose bars or on the
> Albatross bar. I'm  sure others might differ and I just wanted to highlight
> this option on these new bars.
>
> I agree with you that bending forward produces more power. My body naturally
> wants to do that as I ride harder. It's just that my neck, shoulder and
> hands complain loudly so I'm trying to find comfort over speed so I can
> continue to ride.
>
> René
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>>
>> I'm curious how this sort of setup works in strong, steady headwinds.
>> You mention being able to rest your elbows on the grips while grasping
>> the flat. Does this work for 10 miles or more at a stretch?
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[René Sterental]

I'm sure the ability to hold that position for 10 miles is completely up to
the rider's flexibility. I know I probably couldn't, but if you like riding
in the drops and having the handlebar lower than your saddle, you could do
it. There is plenty of support for the arms and hands in this position,
whereas I cannot find an equivalent option on the Bullmoose bars or on the
Albatross bar. I'm sure others might differ and I just wanted to highlight
this option on these new bars.

I agree with you that bending forward produces more power. My body
naturally wants to do that as I ride harder. It's just that my neck,
shoulder and hands complain loudly so I'm trying to find comfort over speed
so I can continue to ride.

René

On Friday, May 25, 2012, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

> I'm curious how this sort of setup works in strong, steady headwinds.
> You mention being able to rest your elbows on the grips while grasping
> the flat. Does this work for 10 miles or more at a stretch?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Cool knobbly tires at BG

[BSWP]

I was looking over at the Bruce Gordon site, and saws that he has Rock 'n 
Road tires back in stock. 700c, 43mm wide, 540 grams, $100/pair. No 
association, I just like seeing clean and simple knobby tires available for 
700c rims, especially when they're made by Panaracer.

http://brucegordoncycles.bigcartel.com/product/rock-n-road-all-terrain-700c-tire#

- Andrew, Berkeley

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Re: [RBW] Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[PATRICK MOORE]

I'm curious how this sort of setup works in strong, steady headwinds.
You mention being able to rest your elbows on the grips while grasping
the flat. Does this work for 10 miles or more at a stretch?

It's odd, but I find that when I sit up straight, I lose power. I am
sure others find things different -- I remember with, well, not so
much humiliation as humility, how a young guy, sitting bolt upright on
a cheap hybrid, caught up with me riding strenuously in the hooks and
cheerfully yelled out, "Howzit going?" before passing me. But I can
feel extra power even moving from the hoods to the hooks and find that
when I hold the ramps or the flats, I tend to bog if there is any
resistance from air or hill. Perhaps its a  mashing versus spinning
thing?

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM, René Sterental  wrote:
> I took delivery of the new Bosco Rubbe Bullmoose bar today and proceeded to
> install it on my Hunqapillar. http://tinyurl.com/7bmmkfl
>
> Initial impressions:

[snip]

> - They have a lot of rise and a fairly short quill. I have inserted them
> fully, leaving just a tiny gap so they don't rub on the top of the headset
> and on the Hunqapillar at least, I don't think I need them any higher at
> all. After more rides I'll be able to tell whether they are more comfortable
> for me than the Bullmoose bars I had, but I don't think their height will
> change.
[snip]
> Additionally, if I want to get "aereo" or if there is a strong headwind, I
> can comfortably place my hands on the front flat section while having the
> grips support my elbows for a very confident position.

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[RBW] Re: Custom Hampsten / Independent Fabrication rando bike for sale

[Blindrobert]

Those are great posts, guys.  Tell your under-biked friends about the
sale!!  I'd love to keep it but two people, 8 bikes (including a long-
john cargo), and 750 square feet is a recipe for thinning the herd.

On May 25, 5:56 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> Here is what DB has to say about his HBS (from the web):
>
> "There was a time when we took our road bikes everywhere, in all
> seasons.   Our frames
> and forks came ready with braze-ons for fenders as well as plenty of
> clearance to
> accommodate more rubber.  We’d swap out wheels, mount fenders, and
> ride all week to
> school, train in wet weather, and ramble unpaved lanes and across
> fields---then we’d pare
> down, put on our best sew-up skinnies, and head for the weekend races.
>  We had one bike
> that could really do it all, smartly designed for versatility and as
> uncompromising on
> trails as it was at races.
> Times have changed and I’m lucky enough to have more than one bike.  I love my
> dedicated race bike but it’s not well-suited for paths, gravel roads,
> or even long easy days
> at half-speed on fat tires.  Over the past few years I’ve thought a
> lot about the kind of
> bike I could ride on my fastest days with friends who love to hammer
> and climb but
> would also be right with fenders and a larger tire.  Have I taken up a
> quixotic dream?  Am
> I lost in mere nostalgia?  It’s hard to describe the relief and the
> joy I felt when first saw I
> Hampsten Cycles’ Strada Bianca.  It felt like comin’ home.  This was
> exactly what I was
> looking for.
> Here was a bike designed to express the passions of one of racing’s
> modern greats, Andy
> Hampsten who had raced and won in unimaginably bad conditions and who’d never
> settle for a bike that didn’t perform.   But this was no toss at
> nostalgia or retro styling.
> The Strada Bianca is up to date in materials and construction,
> offering options that could
> take it down either traditional or contemporary lines of design, all
> custom, and sensibly
> priced.  In steel, titanium, or even aluminum, the Strada Bianca is
> the go-anywhere, haveit-your-way answer that brings modern cycling
> back to its best roots: a true road bike that
> won’t keep you from the fast group and yet is designed for comfort and
> versatility over
> rough roads and long days in the saddle.
> My own HC SB is titanium, wears a threadless carbon fork designed for
> standard reach
> (57mm) caliper brakes, and mounts fenders in only a few minutes.  I
> took it to Europe
> last summer to ride with a fast group over a Tour de France stage,
> using race wheels and
> skinny tires.  This winter I’ve been riding with fat tires and fenders
> on the wet, gravelstrewn roads of the beautiful Finger Lakes of
> western New York.  The only thing still
> holding me back is me but the bike, the bike is everything I have ever
> hoped it could be,
> and honestly better than the bikes I remember as a kid.  The design,
> the performance, and
> the remarkable versatility without compromise make the Strada Bianca a
> distinctive and
> astonishingly fun ride.  There aren’t many contemporary bikes
> conceived to perform with
> so many kinds of cycling in mind.  The Strada Bianca may be Hampsten
> Cycles’ most
> remarkable contribution to date and, as far as I can tell, the future
> looks bright.
> Douglas Brooks"

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Re: [RBW] Custom Hampsten / Independent Fabrication rando bike for sale

[PATRICK MOORE]

Here is what DB has to say about his HBS (from the web):

"There was a time when we took our road bikes everywhere, in all
seasons.   Our frames
and forks came ready with braze-ons for fenders as well as plenty of
clearance to
accommodate more rubber.  We’d swap out wheels, mount fenders, and
ride all week to
school, train in wet weather, and ramble unpaved lanes and across
fields---then we’d pare
down, put on our best sew-up skinnies, and head for the weekend races.
 We had one bike
that could really do it all, smartly designed for versatility and as
uncompromising on
trails as it was at races.
Times have changed and I’m lucky enough to have more than one bike.  I love my
dedicated race bike but it’s not well-suited for paths, gravel roads,
or even long easy days
at half-speed on fat tires.  Over the past few years I’ve thought a
lot about the kind of
bike I could ride on my fastest days with friends who love to hammer
and climb but
would also be right with fenders and a larger tire.  Have I taken up a
quixotic dream?  Am
I lost in mere nostalgia?  It’s hard to describe the relief and the
joy I felt when first saw I
Hampsten Cycles’ Strada Bianca.  It felt like comin’ home.  This was
exactly what I was
looking for.
Here was a bike designed to express the passions of one of racing’s
modern greats, Andy
Hampsten who had raced and won in unimaginably bad conditions and who’d never
settle for a bike that didn’t perform.   But this was no toss at
nostalgia or retro styling.
The Strada Bianca is up to date in materials and construction,
offering options that could
take it down either traditional or contemporary lines of design, all
custom, and sensibly
priced.  In steel, titanium, or even aluminum, the Strada Bianca is
the go-anywhere, haveit-your-way answer that brings modern cycling
back to its best roots: a true road bike that
won’t keep you from the fast group and yet is designed for comfort and
versatility over
rough roads and long days in the saddle.
My own HC SB is titanium, wears a threadless carbon fork designed for
standard reach
(57mm) caliper brakes, and mounts fenders in only a few minutes.  I
took it to Europe
last summer to ride with a fast group over a Tour de France stage,
using race wheels and
skinny tires.  This winter I’ve been riding with fat tires and fenders
on the wet, gravelstrewn roads of the beautiful Finger Lakes of
western New York.  The only thing still
holding me back is me but the bike, the bike is everything I have ever
hoped it could be,
and honestly better than the bikes I remember as a kid.  The design,
the performance, and
the remarkable versatility without compromise make the Strada Bianca a
distinctive and
astonishingly fun ride.  There aren’t many contemporary bikes
conceived to perform with
so many kinds of cycling in mind.  The Strada Bianca may be Hampsten
Cycles’ most
remarkable contribution to date and, as far as I can tell, the future
looks bright.
Douglas Brooks"

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Re: [RBW] Custom Hampsten / Independent Fabrication rando bike for sale

[PATRICK MOORE]

That is a lovely bike -- I'd be very tempted except for two fortunate
(for me) barriers: it's too big and I don't have any money. But I'd
love what is basically a stage racer that takes fenders. My Herse fit
wonderfully but was a tank and I didn't like the handling (which
wasn't bad -- the only low trail bike of two that I didn't mind -- but
I prefer Riv's handling. From what I've just read about the Strada
Bianca, your bike ought to handle very nicely, like an old fashion
stage racer. I note that Douglas Brooks loves his (if you don't know
DB, his opinions carry some weight with the periti).

Yours is steel, not titanium? If the latter, wow, even better.

All this to say: Man, if I had one in my size, it would remain on my
very short "keep it!" list right up there with the custom Rivs.

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Blindrobert  wrote:
> I had this bike custom built and simply haven't ridden it. It has less
> than 50 miles on it. Here are the details:
>
> Custom Strada Bianca road bike designed by Hampsten Cycles (Andy
> Hampsten was the first American to win the Giro, as many of you
> probably know.) and built by Independent Fabrication. Designed for
> randonneuring - fast paced, comfortable, long distance riding. Great
> for club rides or exploring or just riding around - this bike does it
> all.
>
> The details:
>
> Steel tubing mix of True Temper and Reynolds 853
>
> Seat tube: 61.5cm (center to center), 63.0cm (center to top)
> Top tube: 58.5cm (center to center)
> Chain stays: 42.5cm
> Rear spacing 130mm (road bike standard)
> 30mm headtube extension for a more comfortable, upright riding
> position
> Custom steel fork with threadless steel steer tube (tube has been left
> long so you can adjust it down to fit you)
>
> Fully built with premium components including:
> Ritchey WCS bar and Thomson stem
> Chris King pewter color threadless headset
> Thomson Elite seat post
> Black Brooks Team Pro saddle with hammered copper rivets
> Dura ace brake/shift levers (10 speed)
> 10 speed rear cassette (I think it's a SRAM)
> Shimano compact double front crank with oversize outboard bearing
> bottom bracket
> Dura Ace 10 speed rear derailleur
> FSA front derailleur (more reliable than Shimano for the compact
> crank)
> Phil Wood front and rear hubs (rear takes shimano compatible
> cassettes), 36 spokes laced 3-cross to Mavic Open Sport rims (I know -
> you are thinking Open Pro's are better, but the Open Sport is a little
> bit wider which allows you to ride a fatter, more comfortable, tire.
> Honjo polished stainless fenders attached with Sheldon's fender nuts
> for easy removal on fast, dry days.
> Tektro long reach brakes go around the fenders and also allow for
> fatter tires!
> Brand new Rivendell Ruffy-Tuffy 28mm tires fit under the fenders with
> tons of clearance
> Black Velox bar plugs
> Black cork bar tape tied off with black hemp twine
> Cateye Mity8 computer, tells you all the important stuff
> No pedals
> 2 silver Ciussi stainless steel bottle cages
>
> This is a first-rate bicycle in every respect. I simply have too many
> and my house is small. This bike is perfect for fast paced club rides
> or long distance rides, it will excel on pavement, cinder tracks, bike
> paths, rail-to-trails, or simply riding around town or campus. There
> are braze on's for fenders and two water bottles. The intention was to
> use a classic randonneuring saddle bag like the Carradice Nelson with
> a bagman support. I was going for a classic fit so the size is a
> little large and was intended to show just a fistfull of seatpost
> (think Rivendell meets Indy Fab). Bike is in amazing condition showing
> little to no wear, it should last a lifetime. It will fit 28mm tires
> with the fenders and 32 or 35mm tires without fenders. This is a great
> bike and I'd like to find it a good home.
>
> Charcoal metallic with cream filled windows on the lugged fork.  Frame
> is TIG welded in the ultra-clean IF style.
>
> Offered at $3000, I have over $5K into this bike - the price is a
> steal, but reasonable offers will be politely considered: I promise
> not to be offended if you promise not to get upset if I decline.
> Recent pictures can be seen here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/sets/72157629896234412/
>
> Thanks for looking, keep the rubber side down!
>
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[RBW] Bosco Rubbe Nubar on my Hunqapillar... first test

[René Sterental]

I took delivery of the new Bosco Rubbe Bullmoose bar today and proceeded to
install it on my Hunqapillar. *http://tinyurl.com/7bmmkfl*
*
*
Initial impressions:
- They are beautiful. I love the Bullmoose configuration and while it
restricts further adjustments except for height, I believe it's an optimal
position and are very happy to trade off the ability to rotate the bar for
the added stiffness and beauty.
- They have a lot of rise and a fairly short quill. I have inserted them
fully, leaving just a tiny gap so they don't rub on the top of the headset
and on the Hunqapillar at least, I don't think I need them any higher at
all. After more rides I'll be able to tell whether they are more
comfortable for me than the Bullmoose bars I had, but I don't think their
height will change.
- Upright position is a bit "surprising" to my body. Can't tell for sure
after just riding them in the street in front of my house for a short
while, but it seems my back is more relaxed, there is less pressure on my
hands and I can slide them forward and backwards easily. Can't say for sure
about hand or neck pain yet.
- Versatile hand positioning. I installed the leather grips I had on the
Bullmoose bars and while these are more suitable to keep the hands on a
single spot, the bar configuration allows me to easily slide them forward
while still having plenty of flat section to adjust to the speed I'm
riding. Additionally, if I want to get "aereo" or if there is a strong
headwind, I can comfortably place my hands on the front flat section while
having the grips support my elbows for a very confident position. My
initial impression is that they are much more comfortable and versatile
(for me) than the Albatross bars I tried a while back and ended up selling.
- They are wide. This means that I'm not poking myself on the ends of the
bar when making tight turns, getting off the bike, etc. I'm big and I fit
very comfortably inside the bars. It takes a while to get used to maneuver
the bike with the hands behind the line of the head tube but it's not a big
deal.
- Not surprisingly, I had to adjust the tilt of my saddle to support the
more upright position, which means there is more weight on my butt.
- Need to lengthen the brake cable/housing for the front brake but it will
work for now.

Over the long weekend I'll do some longer rides and cruise around Palo Alto
to form a better opinion.

Happy Memorial Weekend!

René

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[RBW] Custom Hampsten / Independent Fabrication rando bike for sale

[Blindrobert]

I had this bike custom built and simply haven't ridden it. It has less
than 50 miles on it. Here are the details:

Custom Strada Bianca road bike designed by Hampsten Cycles (Andy
Hampsten was the first American to win the Giro, as many of you
probably know.) and built by Independent Fabrication. Designed for
randonneuring - fast paced, comfortable, long distance riding. Great
for club rides or exploring or just riding around - this bike does it
all.

The details:

Steel tubing mix of True Temper and Reynolds 853

Seat tube: 61.5cm (center to center), 63.0cm (center to top)
Top tube: 58.5cm (center to center)
Chain stays: 42.5cm
Rear spacing 130mm (road bike standard)
30mm headtube extension for a more comfortable, upright riding
position
Custom steel fork with threadless steel steer tube (tube has been left
long so you can adjust it down to fit you)

Fully built with premium components including:
Ritchey WCS bar and Thomson stem
Chris King pewter color threadless headset
Thomson Elite seat post
Black Brooks Team Pro saddle with hammered copper rivets
Dura ace brake/shift levers (10 speed)
10 speed rear cassette (I think it's a SRAM)
Shimano compact double front crank with oversize outboard bearing
bottom bracket
Dura Ace 10 speed rear derailleur
FSA front derailleur (more reliable than Shimano for the compact
crank)
Phil Wood front and rear hubs (rear takes shimano compatible
cassettes), 36 spokes laced 3-cross to Mavic Open Sport rims (I know -
you are thinking Open Pro's are better, but the Open Sport is a little
bit wider which allows you to ride a fatter, more comfortable, tire.
Honjo polished stainless fenders attached with Sheldon's fender nuts
for easy removal on fast, dry days.
Tektro long reach brakes go around the fenders and also allow for
fatter tires!
Brand new Rivendell Ruffy-Tuffy 28mm tires fit under the fenders with
tons of clearance
Black Velox bar plugs
Black cork bar tape tied off with black hemp twine
Cateye Mity8 computer, tells you all the important stuff
No pedals
2 silver Ciussi stainless steel bottle cages

This is a first-rate bicycle in every respect. I simply have too many
and my house is small. This bike is perfect for fast paced club rides
or long distance rides, it will excel on pavement, cinder tracks, bike
paths, rail-to-trails, or simply riding around town or campus. There
are braze on's for fenders and two water bottles. The intention was to
use a classic randonneuring saddle bag like the Carradice Nelson with
a bagman support. I was going for a classic fit so the size is a
little large and was intended to show just a fistfull of seatpost
(think Rivendell meets Indy Fab). Bike is in amazing condition showing
little to no wear, it should last a lifetime. It will fit 28mm tires
with the fenders and 32 or 35mm tires without fenders. This is a great
bike and I'd like to find it a good home.

Charcoal metallic with cream filled windows on the lugged fork.  Frame
is TIG welded in the ultra-clean IF style.

Offered at $3000, I have over $5K into this bike - the price is a
steal, but reasonable offers will be politely considered: I promise
not to be offended if you promise not to get upset if I decline.
Recent pictures can be seen here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/blindrobert/sets/72157629896234412/

Thanks for looking, keep the rubber side down!

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Was looking for the nitto front rack, if other people fall through, let me 
know, i'll take it.

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[PATRICK MOORE]

Marc Schwartz  wrote:
> VO Stainless Steel wing nuts for fixed gear and single speed hubs. Set of 4 
> with keyed washers.
> New, no packaging. $25

Damn, I was very interested in trying these but balked at the $45 list
price. Now I am waiting for a replacement hollow axle from Jim at
Hiawatha to use with a QR or allen bolts.

If you'd care to trade for something, I'd still like to try them --
have a long-standing question whether good wingnuts and washers can
hold a fixed wheel in place without a chain tensioner - a question
that has much exercised many, mostly "contra," on the CR list.

If interested, I have: a few lighting bits, single pivots, a couple of
Turbo saddles, and other things I can't now remember ... LMK.

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[RBW] Re: New 650B conversion of a 1984 Miyata 912, and a foray into tubeless

[William]

Two of the take-off parts from this Miyata are now up on ebay, if anyone is 
interested.  100% of the bid price goes back to Harding Elementary School 
PTA.  

http://www.ebay.com/sch/bubbanumbertwo/m.html?item=261031370889&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562
 

It's the Shimano 600EX brakeset 47-57mm single pivot, with non aero levers, 
and the crankset 170mm 52/42

On Monday, May 21, 2012 10:55:57 AM UTC-7, William wrote:
>
> I'm in the midst of a 650B conversion that I'm pretty excited about.  I've 
> acquired a 1984 Miyata 912, and it's getting resurrected.  The major 
> enhancement in my eyes is that I'll be converting it from a solid road bike 
> that can take 700x25c tires without fenders, into a bike that can take 
> 650x38B tires with fenders.  This conversion has a couple new aspects for 
> me.  The clearance at the forks and the seatstays was wide enough for 
> Hetres, but it was cozy down at the chainstays.  I researched a little 
> through the various forums and on flickr and got my courage up to crush the 
> chainstays a little bit to make some extra room.  That worked great, and 
> I'll go at it again if I actually decide to run Hetres.  For now it'll be 
> Soma B-Lines.  
>
> The other highlights are that I'll be running the new, lighter weight 
> Velocity A23 650B rims, exclusively available from Longleaf in New 
> Hampshire.  Those rims, along with some advice from Anthony at Longleaf has 
> got me convinced to give tubeless a try.  I'm a little freaked out by the 
> concept, and I'm nervous that I'll make a mess of the whole thing, but at 
> the same time I'm excited to learn something new.  Finally, this bike will 
> be the home for a Sugino compact double that I beautified as my first bike 
> part polishing project.  It was a 52/42/30 130/74mm crankset, that I've 
> converted to a chainguard/42/26.  
>
> This bike is tagged to become my new commute bike.  I've been using the 
> Bombadil for my daily commute.  That commute involves bike on the roof of 
> the car in the morning (carpool), and then a bike/BART commute home in the 
> evening.  The ride home from BART is 2 miles, 600ft of climbing.  The Bomba 
> is obviously smooth, rugged, and reliable.  The shortcomings are that the 
> Bombadil is heavy for the roof rack, heavy for BART steps, and heavy for 
> the 600ft climb, not to mention valuable to be subjected to 30 miles of 
> freeway roofrackage every morning.  This Miyata will essentially be 
> everything a Bleriot or a Betty Foy would have been for me.  Hopefully I 
> can have it running by next week.  
>
> pics show some of the progress:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629709054752/ 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] 650C Tire question: Michelin Pro 3 Race versus Conti GP 4000 versus Conti GP Triathlon; others?

[PATRICK MOORE]

I've been intrigued, especially as at least twice I've had the chance
to get 650C tubular wheels cheaply from my brother who wheels and
deals in bicycle esoterica and exoterica in LA. But I've hesitated for
two reasons: first that with our goatheads -- a flat a ride is normal
on pavement -- I wonder if they are practical; and second, if the
number of decent 571 wired-ons is small, that for 571 tubulars must be
minuscule.

Others have said that the better sealants are far better than Slime;
perhaps that is the middle term here? If my brother ever comes across
another pair of 571 tubular wheels, I may just give them a try.

If I ever get a new custom gofast, it will probably have 700C wheels.

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 7:56 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-05-24 at 17:58 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>>
>> Commentary: I ride short distances, and I want to pack as much riding
>> fun into those short distances as I can. I hate, hate HATE heavy,
>> thick-walled, doggy, sluggish tires: I've ridden them and I know what
>> they feel like. I'd rather fix a flat-a-ride than ride such tires.
>> Hell, I'd rather give up cycling and take up walking -- seriously.
>> This is the reason for my iconoclastic wish for light, fast, supple
>> tires for the '99 Joe, and not a wish to irritate or contradict the
>> general preferences on this list for fat tires. Hell, on my Fargo, I
>> consider 50 mm tire skinny -- wouldn't touch them. (Goddam wimpy
>> narrow useless things -- try riding skinny, hard 50s at 40 psi in our
>> RG bosque sand -- *You'll* see!).
>
> Maybe you should try tubulars.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

[Liesl]

On May 25, 9:36 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
> The waitress' wear very tight T-shirts emblazoned with
> "I'm Juicy."

The Matt's t-shirts (and it just so happens I'm wearing mine at the
moment, oddly enough) says "Fear the Cheese"

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[RBW] Winds, head and tail; cadence, slow; hooks, good.

[PATRICK MOORE]

A hardly epic 30 miler today, tho' the first 10 was broken up by
finding with a flat at mile four that I had forgotten to re-attach my
frame pump to the frame -- I begged a loan and got to try a very nice
Lezyne -- well, not sure what to call it: let's say a miniature and
better made version of the Topeak Road Morph. Not bad at all, tho' too
big for my Banana Bag, so might as well stick with my PB Roadie,
better than Zefal, IMO. At any rate, after fixing the flat, I returned
home to pick up the pump and the resumed my ride.

Anyway. Even though the steady 35 gusts to 50 winds with smoke from
distant wildfires haven't occurred, the wind was still directly ahead,
SSW, at 28, so I spent 14 miles or more in the hooks pushing the 72"
gear into it. Nothing worth photographing, tho' the bosque trail is
pretty and pretty green, relatively speaking, at this time of year;
but I did get a brief glance at a wild mother duck and four or five
ducklings daringly doing a commando advance through the sparse ground
cover from an acequia on the east of the path to the River on the
west. Various large birds, probably geese and ducks, cast shadows
ahead of my front wheel as they flew back and forth. Low 80s -- very
mild and pleasant, tho' humidity was somewhat high at 10%. (I'm
kidding, OK?)

Odd: perhaps it's just age, but I find it easier on my lungs to push
that 72" gear at 70 rpm against a headwind than to spin it at much
over 90 with a brisk tailwind. The received wisdom that riding fixed
helps your spin hasn't been true for me; it's made me a masher. I used
to spin at well over 100 to routinely maintain over 20 a 65" gear (I
was younger and fitter then, of course, but 42/17 X26.5 or 36X14 X 25
were my preferred cruising gears. Now 80 in the 72" is comfortable.

Of course, this left me with no remedy when some young 30- or 40-
somethings passed me and dropped me like a brick: like trying to
accelerate a tractor engine. Oh well, it is good to learn, as you age,
that the flesh availeth nothing. My attempts to speed up were half
hearted and brief. (The secret must be carbon fiber ...)

Oh, and the green Curt fixie felt wonderful, as usual.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars have arrived...

[William]

Photos to prove the shirts happened:

http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ 

Scroll downish.  Lots of you probably saw this when it was new.  I'd missed 
it.  

On Friday, May 25, 2012 1:07:27 PM UTC-7, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote:
>
> Alas! Alack!
>  
> It's a good thing I'm well-stocked with RBW T-shirts of various 
> colors/printages/sleeve-lengths. The switch to the shirts they sell now 
> means XXL will no longer work for me; thus I think my RBW T-shirt-buying 
> days are consigned to history.
>  
> Otherwise, I might make sure my first ride with the Bosco bar (scheduled 
> for next week) would be whilst wearing a Bosco Rubbe shirt.
>  
> I'm interested in seeing how long a stem I need to accommodate the 
> hand-grip position. I think I'll do what I need to do to avoid having to 
> truncate the bar. I won't be using bar-end shifters... either stem or SOS. 
> I'll start with an 10cm or 11cm stem, one of which I have available. (I'm 
> happy with an 11cm or 10cm with my Albatross bar.) While I understand the 
> Bosco comes back further than the Albatross, it's also true that I'll sink 
> the stem more due to the massive rise of the Bosco, so the position that 
> the Bosco comes back *from* will be slightly farther forward. I haven't 
> done the figurin' so I don't know how much mitigation that'll provide. I'd 
> rather just see. I don't need it to be just like my Albatross; I just want 
> not to feel penned in. Variety is nice!
>  
> Yours,
> Thomas Lynn Skean
>
> On Friday, May 25, 2012 12:56:51 PM UTC-5, William wrote:
>
>> To all Bosco Patrons:
>>
>> I saw some very attractive Bosco Rubbe T-Shirts at Riv HQ yesterday.  I 
>> bought a shirt even though I don't own the bars (or the bike).  It's an 
>> American Apparel SS shirt in a mossy green and it says Bosco Rubbe Junior 
>> College est 1994.  Call Riv up and ask them to sell you one.  
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:17:28 PM UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got an email from RBWWHQ saying that Bosco has landed!
>>> Get 'em while you can!
>>> cheers,
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars have arrived...

[Thomas Lynn Skean]

Alas! Alack!
 
It's a good thing I'm well-stocked with RBW T-shirts of various 
colors/printages/sleeve-lengths. The switch to the shirts they sell now 
means XXL will no longer work for me; thus I think my RBW T-shirt-buying 
days are consigned to history.
 
Otherwise, I might make sure my first ride with the Bosco bar (scheduled 
for next week) would be whilst wearing a Bosco Rubbe shirt.
 
I'm interested in seeing how long a stem I need to accommodate the 
hand-grip position. I think I'll do what I need to do to avoid having to 
truncate the bar. I won't be using bar-end shifters... either stem or SOS. 
I'll start with an 10cm or 11cm stem, one of which I have available. (I'm 
happy with an 11cm or 10cm with my Albatross bar.) While I understand the 
Bosco comes back further than the Albatross, it's also true that I'll sink 
the stem more due to the massive rise of the Bosco, so the position that 
the Bosco comes back *from* will be slightly farther forward. I haven't 
done the figurin' so I don't know how much mitigation that'll provide. I'd 
rather just see. I don't need it to be just like my Albatross; I just want 
not to feel penned in. Variety is nice!
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

On Friday, May 25, 2012 12:56:51 PM UTC-5, William wrote:

> To all Bosco Patrons:
>
> I saw some very attractive Bosco Rubbe T-Shirts at Riv HQ yesterday.  I 
> bought a shirt even though I don't own the bars (or the bike).  It's an 
> American Apparel SS shirt in a mossy green and it says Bosco Rubbe Junior 
> College est 1994.  Call Riv up and ask them to sell you one.  
>
> Bill
>
> On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:17:28 PM UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>>
>> Just got an email from RBWWHQ saying that Bosco has landed!
>> Get 'em while you can!
>> cheers,
>> Andrew
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bosco bars have arrived...

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

They're up on the site.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 25, 2012, at 1:56 PM, "William" 
mailto:tapebu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

To all Bosco Patrons:

I saw some very attractive Bosco Rubbe T-Shirts at Riv HQ yesterday.  I bought 
a shirt even though I don't own the bars (or the bike).  It's an American 
Apparel SS shirt in a mossy green and it says Bosco Rubbe Junior College est 
1994.  Call Riv up and ask them to sell you one.

Bill

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:17:28 PM UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
Just got an email from RBWWHQ saying that Bosco has landed!
Get 'em while you can!
cheers,
Andrew

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars have arrived...

[William]

To all Bosco Patrons:

I saw some very attractive Bosco Rubbe T-Shirts at Riv HQ yesterday.  I 
bought a shirt even though I don't own the bars (or the bike).  It's an 
American Apparel SS shirt in a mossy green and it says Bosco Rubbe Junior 
College est 1994.  Call Riv up and ask them to sell you one.  

Bill

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 4:17:28 PM UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:
>
> Just got an email from RBWWHQ saying that Bosco has landed!
> Get 'em while you can!
> cheers,
> Andrew
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

[Peter Morgano]

Funny when I was wrestling we called them squat thrusts, they were still a
pain though, haha. But the most exerting exercise I remember was the duck
walk where you obvioulsy squat down and walk like a duck but you have to
hold you ankles while you do it, man everthing burned after a minute or
two, havent been in that good of shape in at least 10 years as my wife is
fond of reminding me :)

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Steve Park  wrote:

> Chapter 34 burpee reverse-ladder kicked my butt.
>
> Amazing how a new exercise can make you feel out of shape all over again.
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[RBW] Re: WTT: 44cm Mark's bar for 44cm Noodle

[jinxed]

OK...My Nitto mod 177 Noodles are 46ers.
>
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[RBW] Re: Just Ride

[Steve Park]

Chapter 34 burpee reverse-ladder kicked my butt.

Amazing how a new exercise can make you feel out of shape all over again.

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[RBW] Re: Bosco bars have arrived...

[Marc Irwin]

Mine are in the hands of UPS scheduled for delivery on Wednesday with my 
new Hillborne frame.  It's just the day before I'm heading to Nashville for 
the Harpeth River Ride with a group.
Marc

On Wednesday, May 23, 2012 7:17:28 PM UTC-4, Andrew Letton wrote:
>
> Just got an email from RBWWHQ saying that Bosco has landed!
> Get 'em while you can!
> cheers,
> Andrew
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[Marc Schwartz]

Zack,
Which rack, the Nitto or VO? there is a queue for both, but I'll keep you 
posted.
Thanks,
Marc

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Subject: [RBW] RE: BOB Wool Jersey, VO Campagne Bag, Nitto M12 Front Rack, &etc

If not taken, I'll take the front rack.

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[RBW] Re: New Features, New Price for Sam Hill Borne 52 CM Frame Fork Wheels and Extras Low Miles 975$

[MustacheBar]

Please email me with phone number lets talk, thank you!



On May 24, 8:25 am, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> Ok, I emailed last time this was for sale expressing an interest and never
> heard back. Anyone know what the story is here? I am sure there were offers
> last time. I was thinking of picking it up for my wife.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 2:26 PM, MustacheBar  wrote:
> > Adding Mustache Bars and a Brooks Saddle to create an almost complete bike
>
> > Taiwan built 52 CM Sam Hill Borne Frame and Fork with Rivendell
>
> > Rivendell built Economy Deore Hub Wheel Set
>
> > Plus: Barely used Grand Bois Herte Tires
>
> > Plus: Barely used set of Maxy Fasty Tires
>
> > Plus: Shimano Brakes
>
> > Both sets are cushy and fast
>
> > Kickstand
>
> > All SUPER CLEAN
>
> > 
>
> > Picture Set Link:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/alchemicalnature/sets/72157629865650828/
>
> > You get a near new, almost complete Rivendell Sam for just 975$
>
> > Finn
>
> > Cell: 510-410-0314
>
> > Home: 510-525-5551
>
> > Email: fi...@pacbell.net
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[Marc Schwartz]

Robert
My apologies the Jersey is sold. I'll let you know if he changes his mind.
Thanks,
Marc

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Subject: Re: [RBW] RE: BOB Wool Jersey, VO Campagne Bag, Nitto M12 Front Rack, 
&etc

Probably late but I'll take the jersey.

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On May 24, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Marc Schwartz  wrote:

>
>
> Hiya All! The Stuff Purge Continues
>
> I am offering the following items;
>
> VO Campagne Handlebar Bag. Black with brown leather. Po' Boy's Gilles 
> Berthoud, works as well, almost as pretty. With VO Decaleur insert attached  
> (you will need to supply the decaleur mount that attaches to the stem;)
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-213.html
> Lightly used good condition. $65
> Catalog listing; 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers/vo-campagne-handlebar-bag.html
>
>
> Official BOB wool cycling jersey XL, long sleeves, black with white striping. 
> 100% Merino Wool by Portland Cyclewear. Prominent BOB
> logo embroidered in black on the large white chest stripe. Underneath on the 
> black background is "Steel, Leather & Wool" embroidered in white. 6" zipper 
> at neck, single zipped pocket in back. Rare and beautiful. Near new 
> condition, but TINY moth holes render this a "USER" rather than a 
> "collector". Priced accordingly,  $75 REDUCED TO $55
> Photos emailed on request.
>
> Nitto M12 front rack for bikes with canti posts. Includes canti adapter 
> mounting bolts for standard cantis (not for Pauls). Lightly used good 
> condition. $75
>
> VO Constructeur front rack. Chromed steel. No pre-drilled mounting holes 
> (drill to fit when installing) $50
> Catalog listing; 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/racks/vo-constructeur-front-rack.html
>
> VO Stainless Steel wing nuts for fixed gear and single speed hubs. Set of 4 
> with keyed washers. New, no packaging. $25
> Catalog listing; 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/skewers/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html
>
>
> All including Shipping to CONUS. Paypal, por favor. Please email for photos 
> and more info to mschw...@nmsu.edu.
> Thank you all for your consideration.
>
> Thanks,
> Marc
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az6.htm
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Re: [RBW] 4ish years. Same picture, Different story each time.

[jimD]

Manny,
Thanks! You are taking the Panda to a whole new level.
😝
-JimD
On May 23, 2012, at 10:04 PM, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> Time to update. A fun little project I've been working on for 4ish year. Same 
> picture, different story each time.
> 
> Pictures proved that I scoured for hours just looking for these pictures.
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjtqKhQw
> 
> -Manny "Panda (that's racist)" Acosta
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[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

[GeorgeS]

There is a Juicy Lucy's in New Orleans.  On Carrollton Avenue near
Canal.  Great burgers with stuffed meat.  My preference is cheese and
jalapaneo.  The waitress' wear very tight T-shirts emblazoned with
"I'm Juicy."
GeorgS

On May 25, 3:09 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> This place was famous for having been built on the third base position of a
> demolished ballpark?
> "Juicy Lucy" sounds about right, though. I took a picture of the burger,
> but it was too pornographic to post anywhere. I do think it was in
> Minneapolis, not St. Paul, and we did go there with a native guide.
> I do have a non-offensive picture of Mickey's Dining Car to share, 
> though:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3639639989/
>
>  Philip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> > On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson 
> > wrote:
> > > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon
> > in a
> > > funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh,
> > that's
> > > real popular... with the ladies."
>
> > Hmmm.  The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin
> > Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, "Home of the Jucy
> > Lucy".   Could this be the place?  Except a waiter is rare--if ever--
> > mostly it's waitresses.  If it isn't the place, put it on your list
> > 'cause it's the real deal.  Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl
> > wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the
> > walls.  The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a "molten core"
> > and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one
> > before.  If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are
> > provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese.
> > The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just "a Premium" but
> > they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the
> > joint up.  Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I
> > added the first year I moved to Minneapolis.
>
> > Riv content:  nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off
> > my year of Juicy Lucys.
>
> > Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis
> On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> > On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson 
> > wrote:
> > > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon
> > in a
> > > funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh,
> > that's
> > > real popular... with the ladies."
>
> > Hmmm.  The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin
> > Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, "Home of the Jucy
> > Lucy".   Could this be the place?  Except a waiter is rare--if ever--
> > mostly it's waitresses.  If it isn't the place, put it on your list
> > 'cause it's the real deal.  Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl
> > wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the
> > walls.  The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a "molten core"
> > and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one
> > before.  If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are
> > provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese.
> > The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just "a Premium" but
> > they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the
> > joint up.  Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I
> > added the first year I moved to Minneapolis.
>
> > Riv content:  nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off
> > my year of Juicy Lucys.
>
> > Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis

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[RBW] Re: WTT: 44cm Mark's bar for 44cm Noodle

[jinxed]

Let me check my bars when I get home...I think my noodles are 44 and have 
been curious on the Marks.
Brad


On Friday, May 25, 2012 7:32:01 AM UTC-6, C.J. Filip wrote:
>
> Would like to try some Noodles.  Anyone willing to trade bars?  I'm 
> not 100% sure they're Mark's but am 100% sure they're Nitto.  Judge 
> for yourself based on my photos. 
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/69091655@N08/6980627227/in/photostream/

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[RBW] WTT: 44cm Mark's bar for 44cm Noodle

[C.J. Filip]

Would like to try some Noodles.  Anyone willing to trade bars?  I'm
not 100% sure they're Mark's but am 100% sure they're Nitto.  Judge
for yourself based on my photos.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/69091655@N08/6980627227/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] Re: front derailleur cage tweaking

[Steven Frederick]

Try a BB spacer on the driveside to bring the granny ring out a little
bit?  Good luck!  Problems like this drive me nuts.

Steve

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:21 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> Whoo-boy...
>
> Okay, I've read though that, but still didn't solve it...
>
> Derailleur is, 2mm, above the big ring when out that far.  Cage is
> correctly rotated, so the outer plate is parallel to the chain. But with no
> cable tension, even with the cable removed and the L-screw turned to ring
> the plate inward as far as possible, it's still not inward enough...
>
> Thoughts I've had:
> Shim the derailleur to angle it such that, keeping the cage parallel to
> the chain, the bottom edge of the inner plate is swung towards the seat
> post;
> Remove the seat post shim from the derailleur clamp, then double it on the
> left side, leaving it off the crank side;
> Bend the cage so that it is closer to the seat post;
>
> Any better ideas?
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[RBW] Price Reduced - FS: 58 Blue Rambouillet, Now $1300 Shipped

[Tim Whalen]

Some nibbles but no bites so I've cut the price to $1300.  Thanks for
looking, Tim



Hi all, after normal bike selling indecision and second guessing am putting
this Rambouillet up for sale.

I bought this from the original owner, another list member, but have ended
up only riding my Roadeo.  I will email you detailed pics if you are
interested.  Professionally packing and shipping included in the price.

Mostly Ultegra build with details listed below.  Many new parts as noted,
rest have normal wear  but are fully functional and good for many more
miles.

Ultegra triple crank, 172.5 mm, 48, 42, 28, with Shimano middle ring and
unknown but good inner and outer chainrings
Ultegra front and rear Derailleurs
Shimano HG 27-12 9 speed cassette
Suntour bar end shifters
Wheels are Ultegra hubs with 32 spoke Open Pro rims and new Jack Brown
Green tires - true and fast, I love them
Nitto 65 seatpost
Nitto Noodles, 46 cm
Nitto Technomic 5 cm stem
Shimano brake levers with Tektro cross levers
New SR Respiro saddle
New SKS fenders
MKS GR9 pedals and half toe clips
New bar tape with gel pads underneath
I don't know what kind the brakes are, seems to me they are an IRD
predecessor I got from Rivendell some years back.  They work great.
Original Harris Cyclery decal.

Paint is very good with a couple of minor chips/scratches and a small chain
suck scrape that I can see.  The one flaw this bike has is a shallow dimple
in the right side of the top tube.  It came to the original owner that way
and is a minor cosmetic flaw with no impact on the integrity of the tube.
Detailed close ups available.

Great riding highly versatile bike, as you already know.

Tim
Colorado Springs





   

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If not taken, I'll take the front rack. 

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[Robert Zeidler]

Probably late but I'll take the jersey. 

Sent from my iPad

On May 24, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Marc Schwartz  wrote:

> 
> 
> Hiya All! The Stuff Purge Continues
> 
> I am offering the following items;
> 
> VO Campagne Handlebar Bag. Black with brown leather. Po' Boy's Gilles 
> Berthoud, works as well, almost as pretty. With VO Decaleur insert attached  
> (you will need to supply the decaleur mount that attaches to the stem;)
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/racks-decaleurs/decaleurs/vo-decaleur-reciever-5mm-posts-213.html
> Lightly used good condition. $65
> Catalog listing; 
> http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/bags-panniers/vo-campagne-handlebar-bag.html
> 
> 
> Official BOB wool cycling jersey XL, long sleeves, black with white striping. 
> 100% Merino Wool by Portland Cyclewear. Prominent BOB 
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[RBW] Re: Just Ride it!

[Philip Williamson]

This place was famous for having been built on the third base position of a 
demolished ballpark? 
"Juicy Lucy" sounds about right, though. I took a picture of the burger, 
but it was too pornographic to post anywhere. I do think it was in 
Minneapolis, not St. Paul, and we did go there with a native guide. 
I do have a non-offensive picture of Mickey's Dining Car to share, though: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/3639639989/

 Philip


On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson  
> wrote: 
> > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon 
> in a 
> > funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh, 
> that's 
> > real popular... with the ladies." 
> > 
>
> Hmmm.  The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin 
> Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, "Home of the Jucy 
> Lucy".   Could this be the place?  Except a waiter is rare--if ever-- 
> mostly it's waitresses.  If it isn't the place, put it on your list 
> 'cause it's the real deal.  Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl 
> wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the 
> walls.  The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a "molten core" 
> and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one 
> before.  If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are 
> provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese. 
> The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just "a Premium" but 
> they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the 
> joint up.  Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I 
> added the first year I moved to Minneapolis. 
>
> Riv content:  nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off 
> my year of Juicy Lucys. 
>
> Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis


On Thursday, May 24, 2012 9:07:54 AM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> On May 24, 12:13 am, Philip Williamson  
> wrote: 
> > I went to St. Paul a couple years ago, and my boss ordered a Blue Moon 
> in a 
> > funky bar famous for its stuffed hamburger. The waiter said, "Yeh, 
> that's 
> > real popular... with the ladies." 
> > 
>
> Hmmm.  The original bar famous for stuffed hamburgers in the Twin 
> Cities is Matt's on Cedar Ave in Minneapolis, "Home of the Jucy 
> Lucy".   Could this be the place?  Except a waiter is rare--if ever-- 
> mostly it's waitresses.  If it isn't the place, put it on your list 
> 'cause it's the real deal.  Total dive bar with 60's era gold vinyl 
> wall paper and home-made brass-and-wood duck art hanging on the 
> walls.  The cheese is so hot that they refer to it as a "molten core" 
> and it's standard policy for waitresses to ask if you've had one 
> before.  If you haven't, detailed instructions for how to eat it are 
> provided so that you don't burn yourself from the molten lava-cheese. 
> The standard beverage is a Grain Belt Premium–or just "a Premium" but 
> they recently added Blue Moon in some absurd attempt to class the 
> joint up.  Matt's is in my 'hood and responsible for the 10 pounds I 
> added the first year I moved to Minneapolis. 
>
> Riv content:  nope, all my Saluki/Proto communting has not taken off 
> my year of Juicy Lucys. 
>
> Liesl I'll-Have-a-Premium from deep in the heart of South Minneapolis

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