[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne in Seattle (mine) with cream headtube and lots of stuff.

[Scot Brooks]

Thanks Reid, yeah it all comes with the bike. Well, I think I'm actually 
keeping one of the king cages, so everything except that. 

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars: New v. Old

[Montclair BobbyB]

I own 2 sets of the new Nitto/Riv Bullmoose, and with the extra sweep and 
width I think the new ones are the bee's knees. 

BUT.. I do also have a few sets of the older type, and while (as Jeremy 
said) they do vary in shape, width, sweep and rise, I think alot depends on 
the bike as to how well or not bullmoose bars will work.  I have an old 
Rockhopper with just an average set of slightly tigther, narrower bullmoose 
bars, but they feel so perfect on this bike, I can't imagine any othe bar 
working for this particular bike.

My advice... if you like the bullmoose bars concept, try different 
variations, and score a set of the Riv/Nitto ones (IF YOU CAN).  Charlie 
Kelly had a great idea that apparently keeps getting better over time.  (I 
hope Riv and Nitto make more of these).

BB

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 1:24:34 AM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> There were many variations on the bullmoose theme that came on early 
> MTB's.  Some had much more vertical rise than reach, others were flatter. 
>  Some were cheap, heavy, chromed steel, others were nice chromoly.  Of the 
> ones i've seen, the 80's ones were generally much straighter--with less 
> sweep to the grip area--than the Riv/Nitto remakes.  
>
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:57:17 PM UTC-7, tragicallyaverage wrote:
>>
>> Trying out some old Bullmoose bars on a 650b conversion and was 
>> wondering: are there major difference in feel/comfort between the original 
>> 80's bars and the Riv re-makes?
>> I know the obvious ones about the shape and sweepback and overall 
>> beautiful aesthetic of the newer ones.
>> Has anyone used both the originals and the newer ones?
>> I enjoy the simplicity of them and ease of setup, just wondering if I 
>> should try and track down some of the newer ones, or if I'm alright 
>> sticking with the older variety.
>> Thanks for any advice/info in advance!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis

[rudi]

Dropping the price for the Atlantis frame and fork to $1,050. Send me a 
note if you're interested. 

On Monday, October 8, 2012 1:42:39 PM UTC-7, rudi wrote:
>
> I'm selling my 64cm Atlantis, serial #AT-0141. Frame, fork, headset only. 
> It's an early one, and I've gotten lots of good riding out of it. About a 
> year ago, the rear dropout broke, and the good folks at Riv took it in and 
> repaired it and repainted it the original Atlantis color. We added a 
> kickstand plate, but I wish we'd added fork eyelets. While the frame was 
> being repaired I got myself an AHH, and that has become my main ride. I 
> never built the Atlantis back up, so it is in like new condition, ready for 
> your build. 
>
> Asking $1,200. I'd prefer to sell it to someone local, in the Bay Area as 
> I had a slight snag with the last time I shipped. But if the Bay Area is 
> saturated with 64cm Atlantis-es, then I'll have it professionally boxed and 
> shipped at cost. Please send me a message off list if interested.
>
> Here are 
> some pics. 
>

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[RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[reynoldslugs]

Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this 
list and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders, that 
kept me from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful 
orange Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:
 
- kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
- rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
- Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
- no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day... 
- physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
- Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a 
grateful and happy rider again.
 
I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the renal 
cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the 
Rambouillet is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.
 
I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/
 
A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike paths 
of West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is 
indescribable.
 
Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be 
riding again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike in 
'99.
 
MB

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Re: [RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[James Warren]

Congratulations! Thanks for sharing. Great spirit is infectious!


On Oct 21, 2012, at 11:32 AM, reynoldslugs wrote:

> Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this list 
> and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders, that kept me 
> from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful orange 
> Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:
>  
> - kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
> - rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
> - Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
> - no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day... 
> - physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
> - Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a 
> grateful and happy rider again.
>  
> I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the renal 
> cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the 
> Rambouillet is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.
>  
> I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/
>  
> A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike paths of 
> West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is 
> indescribable.
>  
> Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be 
> riding again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike in 
> '99.
>  
> MB
> 
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RE: [RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[Marc Schwartz]

Good on 'ya, Max! 
Be Well.

Marc
Las Cruces, NM

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of Brian Hanson [stone...@gmail.com]
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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and 
RBW...and I love orange bikes

Way to overcome, MB!  It's good to have things to look forward to like a nice 
fall ride!

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjCvFfeR

Brian
Seattle, WA

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 11:32 AM, reynoldslugs 
mailto:be...@perrylaw.net>> wrote:
Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this list 
and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders, that kept me 
from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful orange 
Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:

- kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
- rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
- Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
- no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day...
- physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
- Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a grateful 
and happy rider again.

I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the renal 
cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the Rambouillet 
is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.

I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/

A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike paths of 
West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is 
indescribable.

Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be riding 
again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike in '99.

MB

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[RBW] Ride yesterday - Walnut Creek to Redwood City

[Tony]

I was invited to join three other riders and thought I'd make a report for 
a couple of two,three reasons. It is a great way to extend getting around 
in the bay area by bike and public transportation and it includes the 
"Planet of the Apes" route and Tunitas Creek Road. We met at the Daly City 
BART station and headed towards the ocean. There we took a bunch of side 
streets, beach, dirt and semi-dirt trails to get to Half Moon Bay. The end 
of the day was up Tunitas Creek Road through the redwoods and a fun descent 
to Redwood City where we caught Caltrain to BART and home. The ride leader 
posted the route here:
http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/52917168/

Tony

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[RBW] Old MUSA pants and knickers versus new

[PATRICK MOORE]

With nighttime temps dipping down to 40 (we get 30* differentials,
often more) I've been wearing my new-to-me MUSA pants and knickers,
bought at a very good price from a listmember (to whom thanks again).
Mine are both medium and are just about perfect in fit, both in
snugness and length -- tho' I do wish they were both cut to a longer
rise: I like my cycling pants to ride high in the back. These are
acceptable in back, and excellent in fit everywhere else.

So tell me, those of y'all who have worn both new and old: how do the
new (pants or knickers) fit compared to the old? I'm afraid that the
new ones will be too long and too loose for me. I particularly like
the fit and look of the old style pants: I wear them to church when I
ride there and they are trim enough to look, if not dressy, at least
neat -- I dislike pants that look like sweatpants.

Do the new one's have the same fast buckle belt? I must replace the
elastic with webbing, as the elastic is too -- elastic.

The fabric (on the old ones, at least) is just right for fall
temperatures here, particularly here in NM where I can start out at
42* and end up at 80*. The sewing is excellent.

If anyone has old models, in Medium and in good condition, to sell or
trade, I'd be interested in talking. One day when I am flush, I may
ask a tailor to alter a pair of nice, hard-weave winter wool dress
trousers to match the MUSAs.

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Re: [RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[PATRICK MOORE]

MB: very glad to hear that you are well and that you are now back on
the bike. The Ram looks wonderful.


On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this
> list and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders, that
> kept me from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful orange
> Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:
>
> - kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
> - rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
> - Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
> - no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day...
> - physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
> - Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a
> grateful and happy rider again.
>
> I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the renal
> cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the
> Rambouillet is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.
>
> I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/
>
> A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike paths of
> West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is
> indescribable.
>
> Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be
> riding again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike in
> '99.
>
> MB
>
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[RBW] Re: Ride yesterday - Walnut Creek to Redwood City

[Hetchins52]

Hi Tony,

Sorry to miss the "Junista" ride. Maybe next time!
23 years ago I lived in Pacifica and worked at the Bicyclery in Half Moon 
Bay. I would take the "Planet of the Apes" route (never heard it called 
that until much later) on my MB-1 so as to avoid riding Highway 1 and 
Devil's Slide on the coast. How was it and what bike/tires did you use? 
Much walking?!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:48:34 PM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>
> I was invited to join three other riders and thought I'd make a report for 
> a couple of two,three reasons. It is a great way to extend getting around 
> in the bay area by bike and public transportation and it includes the 
> "Planet of the Apes" route and Tunitas Creek Road. We met at the Daly City 
> BART station and headed towards the ocean. There we took a bunch of side 
> streets, beach, dirt and semi-dirt trails to get to Half Moon Bay. The end 
> of the day was up Tunitas Creek Road through the redwoods and a fun descent 
> to Redwood City where we caught Caltrain to BART and home. The ride leader 
> posted the route here:
> http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/52917168/
>
> Tony
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride yesterday - Walnut Creek to Redwood City

[Tony]

Hi David,

Yeah, Old San Pedro Mountain Road is more historic and a better name.

It was great! I was on my Hillborne with the usual commute fenders, 
albatross bars and Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700c x  35mm tires. I was 
happy, considering the fog and dark return home, that I kept the front 
light and generator hub on also. Phil rode skinny road tires so as to lead 
the ride later and be sure all bikes can apply.

I hope to ride with you sometime soon,

Tony

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:37:25 PM UTC-7, Hetchins52 wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> Sorry to miss the "Junista" ride. Maybe next time!
> 23 years ago I lived in Pacifica and worked at the Bicyclery in Half Moon 
> Bay. I would take the "Planet of the Apes" route (never heard it called 
> that until much later) on my MB-1 so as to avoid riding Highway 1 and 
> Devil's Slide on the coast. How was it and what bike/tires did you use? 
> Much walking?!
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
>
> On Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:48:34 PM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>>
>> I was invited to join three other riders and thought I'd make a report 
>> for a couple of two,three reasons. It is a great way to extend getting 
>> around in the bay area by bike and public transportation and it includes 
>> the "Planet of the Apes" route and Tunitas Creek Road. We met at the Daly 
>> City BART station and headed towards the ocean. There we took a bunch of 
>> side streets, beach, dirt and semi-dirt trails to get to Half Moon Bay. The 
>> end of the day was up Tunitas Creek Road through the redwoods and a fun 
>> descent to Redwood City where we caught Caltrain to BART and home. The ride 
>> leader posted the route here:
>> http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/52917168/
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[RBW] bombadil downtube shifter boss broken

[Jared Volpe]

hi. was attempting to adjust my downtube cable stop because it wasn't lined up 
with the cable. didn't feel like I was using too much pressure but obviously 
was because the shifter boss snapped off. I'd like to get this fixed on the 
quick as I'm gearing up for a paint job. I guess it is better now than after. 
any Bay Area (east bay) recommendations? I'm assuming this is something that I 
wouldn't bring the bike to walnut creek for. thanks for your input!

ps. was riding around crater lake OR with my new to me bomba this weekend with 
a friend on his mb-2. I'll post a pic when I'm on my computer. mobile google 
groups doesn't seem to allow posting images. 

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[RBW] bombadil downtube shifter boss broken

[Jared Volpe]

hi. was attempting to adjust my downtube cable stop because it wasn't lined up 
with the cable. didn't feel like I was using too much pressure but obviously 
was because the shifter boss snapped off. I'd like to get this fixed on the 
quick as I'm gearing up for a paint job. I guess it is better now than after. 
any Bay Area (east bay) recommendations? I'm assuming this is something that I 
wouldn't bring the bike to walnut creek for. thanks for your input!

ps. was riding around crater lake OR with my new to me bomba this weekend with 
a friend on his mb-2. I'll post a pic when I'm on my computer. mobile google 
groups doesn't seem to allow posting images. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride yesterday - Walnut Creek to Redwood City

[Anne Paulson]

When is "later" going to be? I still haven't done that route and want to.

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tony  wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Yeah, Old San Pedro Mountain Road is more historic and a better name.
>
> It was great! I was on my Hillborne with the usual commute fenders,
> albatross bars and Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700c x  35mm tires. I was
> happy, considering the fog and dark return home, that I kept the front light
> and generator hub on also. Phil rode skinny road tires so as to lead the
> ride later and be sure all bikes can apply.
>
> I hope to ride with you sometime soon,
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:37:25 PM UTC-7, Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> Sorry to miss the "Junista" ride. Maybe next time!
>> 23 years ago I lived in Pacifica and worked at the Bicyclery in Half Moon
>> Bay. I would take the "Planet of the Apes" route (never heard it called that
>> until much later) on my MB-1 so as to avoid riding Highway 1 and Devil's
>> Slide on the coast. How was it and what bike/tires did you use? Much
>> walking?!
>>
>> David Lipsky
>> Berkeley, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:48:34 PM UTC-7, Tony wrote:
>>>
>>> I was invited to join three other riders and thought I'd make a report
>>> for a couple of two,three reasons. It is a great way to extend getting
>>> around in the bay area by bike and public transportation and it includes the
>>> "Planet of the Apes" route and Tunitas Creek Road. We met at the Daly City
>>> BART station and headed towards the ocean. There we took a bunch of side
>>> streets, beach, dirt and semi-dirt trails to get to Half Moon Bay. The end
>>> of the day was up Tunitas Creek Road through the redwoods and a fun descent
>>> to Redwood City where we caught Caltrain to BART and home. The ride leader
>>> posted the route here:
>>> http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/52917168/
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Bay Area paint job recommendations?

[Jared Volpe]

Thanks for all your input on this. Still trying to figure out what to do. What 
are the general differences between powder coating and painting? durability and 
longevity? matte finish versus glossy or clearcoat? can I paint the lugs if I 
powder coat? I'm new at this so any info is very helpful!

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Re: [RBW] Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[cyclotourist]

Take care of yourself Max. Hope bikes can be part of the recovery!


On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 1:18 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> MB: very glad to hear that you are well and that you are now back on
> the bike. The Ram looks wonderful.
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 12:32 PM, reynoldslugs  wrote:
> > Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this
> > list and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders,
> that
> > kept me from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful
> orange
> > Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:
> >
> > - kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
> > - rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
> > - Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
> > - no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day...
> > - physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
> > - Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a
> > grateful and happy rider again.
> >
> > I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the
> renal
> > cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the
> > Rambouillet is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.
> >
> > I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/
> >
> > A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike
> paths of
> > West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is
> > indescribable.
> >
> > Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be
> > riding again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike
> in
> > '99.
> >
> > MB
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[RBW] Re: Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[Michael Hechmer]

I can only imagine how sweet this ride must have been for you.  Be well.

Michael

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:32:50 PM UTC-4, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> Ok, I know it's probably off-topic so I'll keep it short. Thanks to this 
> list and to RBW for daily reading material, motivation and reminders, that 
> kept me from going crazy this summer. Rode yesterday, on my beautiful 
> orange Rambouillet, for first time in three months.  Here's the short story:
>  
> - kidney cancer diagnosed June 11.
> - rode Death Ride (www.deathride.com) on July 14.
> - Surgery (Da Vinci procedure) on July 18.
> - no riding this summer, but I read RBW Owners Bunch every day... 
> - physically,  everything clear now, got back on the bike yesterday.
> - Orange is a great color, the Rambouillet is a great bike, and I'm a 
> grateful and happy rider again.
>  
> I'm not into the cancer-color thing, but it so happens Orange is the renal 
> cancer awareness color, Orange is the best color for the bike, the 
> Rambouillet is the best Orange, it's Fall, and I'm back on the bike.
>  
> I didn't take any pictures, but there's this:
>  
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157627837620505/
>  
> A Rambouillet is the perfect thing for a Fall ride on the easy bike paths 
> of West Sonoma County.  The feeling of finally being back on the bike is 
> indescribable.
>  
> Thanks RBW OB, and thanks Rivendell.  I've said many times I wouldn't be 
> riding again if GP and Rivendell hadn't revitalized my love for the bike in 
> '99.
>  
> MB
>

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[RBW] Re: Beautiful Sam at Bikeworks NYC

[Joe K]

The musings here about Bikeworks are encouraging me to get acquainted
with them.  I think I stopped in the shop 10+ years ago, but don't
recall much from that time.  I'm in a different borough, but I have
relatives in that neighborhood, so it'll be easy.
If a  NYC has a "BOBish" shop I'd bet it'd be Bikeworks.

When I'd finally gathered all the parts for my Riv custom, I had it
put together at Conrad's...I know it's a pretty upper-crusty, racy
type shop, but they've been there forever, and it was widely
recommended at the time. And the fellow who did the work (named Yee)
did a really good job.

I appreciate that bike every day.  Like today, on a ride in the
park.  :)

Joe

On Oct 20, 11:25 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> That's fun to hear about, since I read the "Bike Cult" book around the same 
> time I was getting to know Rivendell.
>
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> On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:20 PM, gep71...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm sure NYC has lots of good bike shops, or at least a handful---I of 
> > course wouldn't know---but I have a thing for Dave Perry, and kind of a 
> > long history, although it's all recent news to me. He attended my book talk 
> > when I was in NYC and was super gracious, really nice. He introduced 
> > himself and I recognized him barely but knew his name from his Bike Cult 
> > book of many years ago. I hooked up with an old Bstone cow-orker now living 
> > in Brooklyn, and we were walking in that part of town (lower east side, I 
> > think it is) and saw the same purple Zeus bike that I'd seen earlier 
> > outside the place I spoke at. It was outside a bike shop (BikeWorks NYC), 
> > which Dave said was his, so we went in and - if the do sell aluminum or 
> > carbon, I didn't seen any. It's small, but a really good shop. I talked to 
> > Ben and --- either Willard or Travis, sorry, another mechanic--and Dave, 
> > and I asked him where he grew up and he said Redwood City, CA, and then for 
> > me (maybe won't be to you) it got interesting. He said he raced, and I knew 
> > of a Dave Perry (2x district champion on the road), and it was him. We know 
> > lots of the same people.
> > The thing about Dave is, he is SOO unracy, or at least not racy in 
> > an annoying way. He knows that world and those bikes and I doubt there's 
> > anybody with a broader range of bike knowledge than Dave. But you'd never 
> > know it, because he's so low key, as is his shop. It's like finding Bob 
> > Dylan owning a record store and working the counter, stocking the bins.
> > I like NYC and I've always thought it would be good to have a dealer there, 
> > so I have been talking to Dave about it. He has no room, but he likes the 
> > bikes, and we sold him that Sam so he could get a feel for them.
> > It seems like a good fit, but I have too much respect for Dave and for 
> > myself (and too much pride) to beg. We aren't looking for dealers at all, 
> > anyway. WHen we sell to a dealer, we cut our margin to essentially nothing 
> > so the dealer can make the money--the alternative being to raise the prices 
> > to make room for us AND the dealer to make money, but then a $2300 bike 
> > would cost $2600, and when our normal way is to sell direct, it just 
> > doesn't make sense.
> > Still, I hope he becomes a dealer, and he is the only dealer in the country 
> > we don't have that I really pine forbut whether he is or not, I totally 
> > recommend him--as do others, I see.
> > He grew up in Redwood City, CA, about an hour-by-car from here, and we 
> > raced at the same time. There were some overlapping years of it, anyway. I
>
> > On Thursday, October 18, 2012 7:37:08 PM UTC-7, Jimmy Hutch wrote:
> > I spied my first look at a beautiful Sam Hillborne while visiting Bikeworks 
> > NYC this afternoon.  Bikeworks NYC (http://bikecult.com/works/) had a new 
> > Sam with double top tube, albatross bars, bar end shifters and cork grips 
> > on display.  It was only the 3rd Rivendell I have seen up close, the first 
> > being my AHH, the second an Atlantis belonging to a guy from Pittsburgh who 
> > was in NYC for the 5-borough bike tour.  I had to buy my AHH having never 
> > seen a Rivendell, so if anyone is in the market, I highly suggest stopping 
> > by to see the Sam in person.
>
> > I dropped my AHH off for some routine maintenance and they were very 
> > accommodating.  I'll report back on the quality of service when I pick it 
> > up.
>
> > -Jimmy
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[reynoldslugs]

Thanks for the nice comments. Riding feels great... I'm now fixated on 
Orange - here is a sneak peak at next week's ride:
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157631823773929/
 
Maxie

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride yesterday - Walnut Creek to Redwood City

[Tony]

I'll let you know Anne. It'll be with the Grizzly Peak group.

Tony

On Sunday, October 21, 2012 3:22:21 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> When is "later" going to be? I still haven't done that route and want to. 
>
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Tony > 
> wrote: 
> > Hi David, 
> > 
> > Yeah, Old San Pedro Mountain Road is more historic and a better name. 
> > 
> > It was great! I was on my Hillborne with the usual commute fenders, 
> > albatross bars and Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700c x  35mm tires. I was 
> > happy, considering the fog and dark return home, that I kept the front 
> light 
> > and generator hub on also. Phil rode skinny road tires so as to lead the 
> > ride later and be sure all bikes can apply. 
> > 
> > I hope to ride with you sometime soon, 
> > 
> > Tony 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sunday, October 21, 2012 2:37:25 PM UTC-7, Hetchins52 wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi Tony, 
> >> 
> >> Sorry to miss the "Junista" ride. Maybe next time! 
> >> 23 years ago I lived in Pacifica and worked at the Bicyclery in Half 
> Moon 
> >> Bay. I would take the "Planet of the Apes" route (never heard it called 
> that 
> >> until much later) on my MB-1 so as to avoid riding Highway 1 and 
> Devil's 
> >> Slide on the coast. How was it and what bike/tires did you use? Much 
> >> walking?! 
> >> 
> >> David Lipsky 
> >> Berkeley, CA 
> >> 
> >> On Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:48:34 PM UTC-7, Tony wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> I was invited to join three other riders and thought I'd make a report 
> >>> for a couple of two,three reasons. It is a great way to extend getting 
> >>> around in the bay area by bike and public transportation and it 
> includes the 
> >>> "Planet of the Apes" route and Tunitas Creek Road. We met at the Daly 
> City 
> >>> BART station and headed towards the ocean. There we took a bunch of 
> side 
> >>> streets, beach, dirt and semi-dirt trails to get to Half Moon Bay. The 
> end 
> >>> of the day was up Tunitas Creek Road through the redwoods and a fun 
> descent 
> >>> to Redwood City where we caught Caltrain to BART and home. The ride 
> leader 
> >>> posted the route here: 
> >>> http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/fullscreen/52917168/ 
> >>> 
> >>> Tony 
> >>> 
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Re: [RBW] Hunq on first camping trip...

[Montclair BobbyB]

This conversation compels me to recite my favorite SPAM haiku: 
http://www.kbeamer.com/spam_haiku.html



On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:32:39 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote:
>
> I've learned to enjoy Spam through riding my bike. 
> No kidding. 
> The Oregon Bike Ride (definitely not to be confused with CycleOregon) 
> serves Spam at their sumptuous rest stops. 
> Spam is great in those circumstances. 
> I love it on those occasions, otherwise it never touches my lips or enters 
> our house. 
> Chow, 
> JimD 
>
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
>
> > On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 15:30 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: 
> >> Steve, Steve, Steve: living in your culturally isolated NoVA region, 
> >> you are desperately isolated from the greater cultural trends across 
> >> this great nation. 
> > 
> > You think maybe I am unaware of Spam?  Ha!  I was in the Army, my 
> > friend.  You learn to eat all sorts of strange and amazing things in the 
> > Army, Spam among them. 
> > 
> >> 
> >> [This just in: Wiki says: "The residents of the state of Hawaii 
> >> consume the most Spam per capita in the United States." But then, they 
> >> haven't visited the Navajo Nation. 
> >> https://plus.google.com/116787299153135854991/posts/ZaqmYp4MvhP] 
> > 
> > There's a lot more Hawaiians than there are Navajo, I think, and Spam is 
> > the official Hawaiian State Meat, isn't it?  (Replaced Long Pig, I 
> > thought I read somewhere...?) 
> > 
> > 
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[RBW] WTB/WTT 61cm Hilsen for 63cm Hilsen

[Michael Williams]

Hey group,   just throwing this out there.  I was wondering if anyone has a 
63cm Hilsen they are looking to sell/trade for a 61.   I have a 61cm 
painted Butterscotch!  thanks in advance   -Mike

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Re: [RBW] Hunq on first camping trip...

[jimD]

Excellent!
  😋

made me hungry, need fried rice with Spam,
JimD

On Oct 21, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

> This conversation compels me to recite my favorite SPAM haiku: 
> http://www.kbeamer.com/spam_haiku.html
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:32:39 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote:
> I've learned to enjoy Spam through riding my bike. 
> No kidding. 
> The Oregon Bike Ride (definitely not to be confused with CycleOregon) serves 
> Spam at their sumptuous rest stops. 
> Spam is great in those circumstances. 
> I love it on those occasions, otherwise it never touches my lips or enters 
> our house. 
> Chow, 
> JimD 
> 
> On Oct 20, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: 
> 
> > On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 15:30 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: 
> >> Steve, Steve, Steve: living in your culturally isolated NoVA region, 
> >> you are desperately isolated from the greater cultural trends across 
> >> this great nation. 
> > 
> > You think maybe I am unaware of Spam?  Ha!  I was in the Army, my 
> > friend.  You learn to eat all sorts of strange and amazing things in the 
> > Army, Spam among them. 
> > 
> >> 
> >> [This just in: Wiki says: "The residents of the state of Hawaii 
> >> consume the most Spam per capita in the United States." But then, they 
> >> haven't visited the Navajo Nation. 
> >> https://plus.google.com/116787299153135854991/posts/ZaqmYp4MvhP] 
> > 
> > There's a lot more Hawaiians than there are Navajo, I think, and Spam is 
> > the official Hawaiian State Meat, isn't it?  (Replaced Long Pig, I 
> > thought I read somewhere...?) 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [RBW] Hunq on first camping trip...

[Dave]

Thanks for the link.  I haven't laughed that hard in a LONG time!

I keep a can of Spam on my desk as a conversation starter.  People ask 
me all the time why it's there; I say, "That's why".



On 10/21/2012 8:06 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
This conversation compels me to recite my favorite SPAM haiku: 
http://www.kbeamer.com/spam_haiku.html




On Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:32:39 PM UTC-4, JimD wrote:

I've learned to enjoy Spam through riding my bike.
No kidding.
The Oregon Bike Ride (definitely not to be confused with
CycleOregon) serves Spam at their sumptuous rest stops.
Spam is great in those circumstances.
I love it on those occasions, otherwise it never touches my lips
or enters
our house.
Chow,
JimD

On Oct 20, 2012, at 2:43 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote:

> On Sat, 2012-10-20 at 15:30 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote:
>> Steve, Steve, Steve: living in your culturally isolated NoVA
region,
>> you are desperately isolated from the greater cultural trends
across
>> this great nation.
>
> You think maybe I am unaware of Spam?  Ha!  I was in the Army, my
> friend.  You learn to eat all sorts of strange and amazing
things in the
> Army, Spam among them.
>
>>
>> [This just in: Wiki says: "The residents of the state of Hawaii
>> consume the most Spam per capita in the United States." But
then, they
>> haven't visited the Navajo Nation.
>> https://plus.google.com/116787299153135854991/posts/ZaqmYp4MvhP
]
>
> There's a lot more Hawaiians than there are Navajo, I think, and
Spam is
> the official Hawaiian State Meat, isn't it?  (Replaced Long Pig, I
> thought I read somewhere...?)
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[RBW] Re: FT: Rivet Pearl for B17 Special

[Bill M.]

Give it more time and more miles.  My Pearl Ti took 4-500 miles to start 
really getting good, and with over 600 it's still improving.  

Bill

On Friday, October 19, 2012 1:07:06 AM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>
> I've got a nearly new (under 200 miles) Rivet Pearl saddle that I'm not 
> coming to grips with, and since I shouldn't fix what's not broken, I'd like 
> to trade it for a B17 Special in Antique Brown or Honey.  I'd take one with 
> less than 1000 miles if you have one.  The Rivet is a nice saddle, just a 
> bit stiffer than I like.  More like the Berthoud with a cutout.  Recent pic 
> (the one in the middle) is here: http://flic.kr/p/cJB4Y9 
>
> Brian
> Seattle, WA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq on first camping trip...

[Robert F. Harrison]

I guess we'll call it Tour de Waimanalo and it was certainly more a tour
than the BORAF in that I went, I rode around, and I rode back, camping
while there and never raced (well running downhill with a loaded bike can
be kind of fun).

I left on Friday morning and after 25 miles into the wind, replete with
stops, photo-ops, and a wonderful time on my new Hunq I arrived. I was
camping with a group of folks who aren't bikey in any way and they were all
amazed I'd ride 25 miles for anything. Several offered to give me rides
back on Sunday so I wouldn't have to ride back.

On Saturday I took a 12.5 mile ride around the back of Waimanalo just to
keep my legs happy, my brain happy. My Hunq, without all the luggage,
though still sporting her Wald up front, attracted a few stares. I like to
think at least one of the folks blasting past me considered that perhaps I
was having a great time not worrying about much of anything.

Today I packed up fairly early so that I didn't have to ride home in the
heat of the day, though I still caught enough. The ride back was much
easier than the ride out because although it was still windy I had it at my
back from time to time.

I was very impressed how easy it was to climb up to Makapuu lookout from
Sea Life Park now that the shoulder is marginally wider and I have a bike
that both had easy to use gearing and track really, really well. I've done
it on a variety of bikes including my Quickbeam (which tracks well but
doesn't go as low).

The camping bit itself was really quite nice. We were actually on Bellows
AFB so we had a PX we could use, we'd all chipped in for dinner, and lots
of folks brought grills and such so I didn't need my Trangia and could buy
coffee in the morning. I'd be the first to admit it was just barely
camping. I mean I did sleep in a tent and all, but the rest was not even
close to roughing it. :-)

On the ride back I treated myself to something else we love in Hawaii
besides SPAM. Shave ice. And not that roughly shaved stuff I often find
when I travel, but the highly shaved variety that holds the syrup and on a
hot day is so cold it's challenge to avoid a cold-ache with ever bite.
Yummm.

Shave Ice
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8195/8111332956_052e3086e7_z.jpg

And here's a variety of unedited shots from the rest of the trip. I'd take
more but it's a regular ride and I'm likely to see a lot of again next
weekend even. :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157631824788937/

As for the bike, it was great, both loaded and unloaded. While I wouldn't
say that 25 miles is a particularly long ride, it's long enough loaded and
into the wind and I was comfy the whole way, not achy anything, no hot
spots, just riding.

I can't wait to do it again (though I'll have to pick another campsite as I
can't get on base without the sponsor who set this one up). You'd think
we'd have a lot more spots to camp but it is fairly limited and tough to
get a permit at times.

Anyway, it was a blast...I'm glad the Hunq made it here in time for the
journey!

Aloha, Bob



On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 5:34 PM, dougP  wrote:

> That's getting with it & getting out on tour as soon as possible.  It
> wasn't that long ago we watched the smiling UPS driver deliver the
> box.  Good on you for not wasting any time.
>
> dougP
>
> On Oct 19, 6:43 pm, "Robert F. Harrison"  wrote:
> > I'm on my first camping trip with my Hunq. Had about a 25 mile ride into
> > the wind to get to Bellows AFB campgrounds. It was a great ride, bike
> > handled beautifully even with all the gear...tent, pad, bag, change of
> > clothes, so on and so forth.
> >
> > http://flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8104171170/
> >
> > Quick stop at Makapuu lookout.
> >
> > Aloha,
> >
> > Bob
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[RBW] Re: Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[Manuel Acosta]

agreed orange bikes in the fall has magical healing properties. Plus they 
make for good camouflage 
http://flic.kr/p/dmMp7j

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[RBW] Re: Ramboullet post-sugery recovery ride. Thanks to list and RBW...and I love orange bikes

[lungimsam]

>
> Congrats on the recovery!!!
> That's great news!
> What a blessing to be healthy and riding again!
> God bless you.
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[RBW] Re: bombadil downtube shifter boss broken

[lungimsam]

>
> Nice shot!! 
>
I would call Rivendell and see who they recommend in the area.
>
Maybe consider Moustache bars and bar end shifters?
I am sure Riv can fix you up real quick with those.
Hope you can get it done quick.

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[RBW] Re: bombadil downtube shifter boss broken

[lungimsam]

>
> Oops...my bad. DT shifter BOSS.
> You mean the part welded to the frame?
> You could use a clamp-on boss just to rig it in a jiffy if you cannot find 
> a better solution as quick as you need.
> I'd still call Riv and see what they recommend.
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Re: [RBW] Unusual (minor) breakdown

[cyclotourist]

Glad to hear there was no damage to the rider!

On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Tom Harrop  wrote:

> The weather is really nice here at the moment, after a cold spell it's
> been in the low 20s (Celsius) for about a week, so we went for a ride
> through the forests outside Cologne yesterday. Because of the season the
> (mostly unpaved) paths are all covered in leaves and it's impossible to see
> what you're riding on a lot of the time.
>
> GF stopped suddenly and when I went to see what was up, she had been the
> victim of chain suck, but ABOVE the chainstay rather than below it. Closer
> inspection revealed that she had flicked up a stick, which got jammed
> between the cassette and the spokes, instantly converting her Homer into a
> fixed gear. So when she tried to freewheel, the chain had been pushed
> forward and the slack at the top got caught by the tyre and pulled into the
> gap between tyre and chainstay. No serious damage done, I'm yet to remove
> the wheel and inspect the inner chainstay but I expect there will be some
> minor paint scratching. Wheel is fine.
>
> Just thought I'd share this, since it seems like a low-probability way to
> have a breakdown. See the pic below, sorry about the quality...
>
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[RBW] Re: After school bike rides aka Learning Experiences that last for the rest of their lives.

[lungimsam]

>
> Venture Crew sounds like a fun thing to do.
> Nice teacher.
>  
>
When I was in high school, back in the 80's we had a teacher who took a 
couple of us ice fishing in the winter.
We did it two years in a row with Mr. Cruise, and I will never forget the 
selflessness of that teacher taking us out both times.
It was just two or three of us, but we had a blast, and it was nice that a 
teacher took us out on "their time".
I think things like that mean alot to students.

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[RBW] Re: After school bike rides aka Learning Experiences that last for the rest of their lives.

[lungimsam]

>
> Venture Crew sounds like a fun thing to do.
>> Nice teacher. Way to go, Manny.
>>
> When I was in a special needs type high school, back in the 80's we had 
> a staff member who took a couple of us ice fishing in the winter. He drove 
> us out to a lake in his car at like 5am. Showed us how to drill a hole 
> through the ice and fish.
> We'd stay out there all morning. Just talking and enjoying standing out on 
> the ice and fishing.
> We did it two years in a row with Mr. Cruise, and I will never forget his 
> selflessness taking us out both times.
> It was just two or three of us, but we had a blast, and it was nice that 
> he took us without us even asking. He just invited us along
> I think things like that mean alot to students. They will remember you for 
> that their whole lives.
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[RBW] Re: Unusual (minor) breakdown

[lungimsam]

>
> I hope you mean 20C and not 20F...looks like you were wearing shorts!!
>  
>
Glad to hear everyone is ok.
Sticks and leaves can be dangerous on paths/trails.

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