Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[cyclotourist]

Today's mail: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8975423894/

Whoo-hoo!

So far no problem with the lapel pin after having one for approx four year.

Cheers,
David



On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> I don't want to 'scare' anyone from proudly displaying it, by no means;
>  but I'm going to think about ways to better secure the pin version.  (As I
> had it on my Acorn's flap, I may very well have knocked the back off and
> not noticed... ).  It's such a nice pin, I don't want anyone else to lose
> theirs
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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

[Robert F. Harrison]

Okay...I managed to actually get out for a about a mile. Sigh.

Naturally enough after I'd spent some time taking off the saddlebag and my
Brooks B-17 Select off my Hunqapillar and putting on the C-17 I discovered
my front tire had flatted. I guess I was lucky to make it home because I
hadn't noticed anything. I'm also using Schwalbe Marathons with Green Guard
and rarely ever have a problem with those tires.

Sure enough I found a bent nail protruding from the tire. I haven't found
the hole in the tube yet (though I know where it HAS to be). In truth I
didn't really look hard, just cleared the tire, slapped in a new tube,
pumped it up and ...

My first ride on the C-17. As it was already getting late and I'd had tire
issues I didn't really have time to do more than cycle around my block and
neighboring blocks a few times.

The saddle is comfortable. It feels to me like a slightly smaller B-17, but
it still fit my bones and I'm a big guy so no problems there. It feels
broken in already and yes, the saddle is slightly springy, more so than a
new Select, probably about the same as a new Standard (which seem much
'looser' to me, but then the leather is thinner I think).

I wondered about the angle of the C-17 and whether I'd need to keep the
nose up as I do with B-17s and yes, I did have to make sure the nose is up
a bit. I haven't quite adjusted it perfectly yet, but it's pretty good. I
did try it with the nose even and it's not good for me at all in the same
way a B-17 isn't at that angle.

I did take some more photos but I'm not sure I followed instructions. :-(

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157633979190099/

On the whole it felt fine and while I need to fine tune the position I
think I'll be happy with it. I can't say if I'll keep it on the Hunq for
long, but it'll find a spot. Right now I'm thinking I may put it on my Bike
Friday when I prep that for RAGBRAI 2013.

As for the C-17 being waterproof...yeah, I guess it is. But honestly I live
in Honolulu where we get a fair bit of rain. I've never left my bike out in
the rain without a cover on the saddle, but all of my leather saddles have
gotten wet, damp, moist, splashed, sweated on and over, and in the end,
they are all fine. I'm not sure I see the need for a waterproof Brooks
(other than marketing), but I'm glad to have a chance to try one.

I'll be commuting on it tomorrow and hopefully either Saturday or Sunday I
can put on some miles and really give it a fair test.

So far so good.

Aloha,

Bob




On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Michael  wrote:

> Thanks for those pics Bob.
>>
> I think they are trying to make it their waterproof saddle or something?
> Let us know how it rides/feels.
>
> Can you post an eye level profile shot so we can see the contour of the
> seat top from the rear to nose?
> Also an eye level pic of back of saddle to see the shape of the arc of the
> saddle top from left to right?
>
> Just if you have time. Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: escape from the new flickr

[Joe Bunik]

and... for you google chrome on ipad usin' maniacs, this finally got
me off my duff to find out how in fact it *is possible* to use
bookmarklets in iOS chrome:
http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/30/how-to-easily-use-bookmarklets-in-google-chrome-for-ios/
=- Joe

On 6/6/13, Joe Bunik  wrote:
> FWIW... apparently one may (at least for the moment) append
> "?details=1" to the url of a flickr user's photostream view and
> restore a semblance of the old-style layout.
>
> E.g., http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik?details=1
>
> And here is a web page with a "bookmarket" (a little tiny javascript
> program masquerading as a url) that will automate that chore for you:
> http://gammagoblin.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-flickr-random-thoughts-and.html
>
> Hope that helps a little,
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
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[RBW] escape from the new flickr

[Joe Bunik]

FWIW... apparently one may (at least for the moment) append
"?details=1" to the url of a flickr user's photostream view and
restore a semblance of the old-style layout.

E.g., http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik?details=1

And here is a web page with a "bookmarket" (a little tiny javascript
program masquerading as a url) that will automate that chore for you:
http://gammagoblin.blogspot.com/2013/05/the-new-flickr-random-thoughts-and.html

Hope that helps a little,
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

[dougP]

Agree.  

How does Mike's suggestion sound to the Northern Californians?  Looks to be 
due east of Monterey Bay.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:57:08 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Let's shoot for a SoCal, NorCal adventure in July and the S240 @ El 
> Morro on any of the open weekends. Just my two cents worth. 
>
> ~Hugh 
> Hugh 
> Sunland, Ca 
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM, dougP > 
> wrote: 
> > We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th & 26th open.  I need to contact the 
> > park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good 
> time 
> > to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance. 
> > 
> > OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal 
> group 
> > that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I 
> think 
> > the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for summer 
> > time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, 
> which is 
> > always welcome. 
> > 
> > dougP 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
> >> tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on 
> a 
> >> weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where 
> this is 
> >> going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
> camp? 
> >> 
> >> Best, 
> >> 
> >> ~Hugh 
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:28:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and 
> Templeton 
> >>> get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere 
> like 
> >>> Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there 
> including 
> >>> Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, 
> single lane 
> >>> and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
> >>> There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft. 
> >>> 
> >>> ~mike 
> >>> 
> >>> 
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[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[hsmitham]

Liesl,

Well said. And Steve P. I do think and I am :-) Thank goodness for Google.

~Hugh

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 2:42:20 PM UTC-7, Liesl wrote:
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- 
>>> carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is 
>>> they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be 
>>> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
>>> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 
>>
>>  
>> Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote:
>>
>  
>
>> But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to 
>> others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior 
>> group of people? 
>>
>
> While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that  I am not 
> smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of 
> people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love 
> for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles.  We are 
> bound by love and that is our sameness.
>
> okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0)
> -RCW
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[RBW] Log your RBW video requests here...

[Michael]

I love their wrenching videos.
How to set up drop bars, derailers, twining, fenders, and packing/unpacking 
and assembling bikes have all been a great resource to me.
 
Anything else you would like them to make vids of? Maybe they will read our 
requests here and make some more vids.
 
I would like to see how they *install and adjust sidepull and center pull 
brakes and their cables/housings*.
 
I know, I know, I can go to the Park website or see someone else do it on 
youtube or read a book. But RBW vids are so laid back and friendly and 
clear and concise and they don't make me think I am gonna die no matter how 
perfectly I do the mechanical work. Makes it fun to do it and not scary.
 
I go to Sheldon Brown's website for the scary stuff, 'cuz he covers the 
death warnings about every minute detail, which is a good service to give 
so we'll all be safe doing our own wrenching.
Then I read books on the subject at hand.
Then I look at the Riv vids to bring me out of neurotica and into the "you 
can do it!" happy repair/assembly frame of mind.
 
So tell 'em what 'ya wanna see next on the "LEARN" videos!
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

[Hugh Smitham]

Let's shoot for a SoCal, NorCal adventure in July and the S240 @ El
Morro on any of the open weekends. Just my two cents worth.

~Hugh
Hugh
Sunland, Ca


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM, dougP  wrote:
> We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th & 26th open.  I need to contact the
> park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good time
> to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance.
>
> OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal group
> that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I think
> the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for summer
> time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, which is
> always welcome.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short
>> tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a
>> weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is
>> going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro camp?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:28:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>>
>>> The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton
>>> get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like
>>> Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including
>>> Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single lane
>>> and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington.
>>> There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[William]

So anyhow, here's the set for the Miyata

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157629709054752/

Here's the most representative photo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7345511078/in/set-72157629709054752

Here's the set for the Stumpjumper

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157630935094690/

and the most representative photo

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/7824790510/in/set-72157630935094690

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[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

[Michael]

>
> Thanks for those pics Bob.
>
I think they are trying to make it their waterproof saddle or something?
Let us know how it rides/feels.
 
Can you post an eye level profile shot so we can see the contour of the 
seat top from the rear to nose?
Also an eye level pic of back of saddle to see the shape of the arc of the 
saddle top from left to right?
 
Just if you have time. Thanks. 

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[RBW] Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look

[Robert F. Harrison]

I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium C-17
saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on a
bike (probably my daily ride, the Hunq), I did take some pictures to "prove
it happened."

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157633977211833/

I generally ride the B-17 model and I've got a bunch of those in standard,
Special, and the new Select. The C-17 definitely feels lighter (though of
course that's not really a concern). It also is made with less material
than a B-17 and doesn't have the 'skirting' down the sides. Since it
doesn't feel as 'slick' as worn leather I wondering if it'll grab the
inside of my pant legs. I guess we'll find out.

The overall look of the saddle is pleasing and I'm sure it'll look nice on
my Hunq (or QB). I was sent one in 'natural' and I'm pretty sure it's going
to get dirty quick...I've heard that from one of the other testers who read
an blog entry I wrote when I was informed I'd been chosen.

Unfortunately I've to run a non-bike errand right now so mounting it and
the first ride will have to come a bit later. I'm thinking I should just
mount it and and then swap seat posts between my Hunq and my QB to give it
workout on both bikes.

While the first 100 have been chosen and probably have all received their
saddles (living in Hawaii I'm probably one of the last to receive the
shipment), the did open it up by 50 more. I don't know if they've been
chosen but Brooks did suggest everyone sign up because one could be chosen
for other products. The sign-up page is still open at:

http://www.brooksengland.com/cambium/

Aloha!

Bob



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[RBW] Re: New Tektro TRP Levers - Review

[Mike Schiller]

I have a pair of the black ones with drilled levers. They work well but are 
a little thin for my hands compared to the SRAM S500's.  I wrapped some 
extra cork bar tape around the base of the brake to "fatten" them up a bit.

~mike


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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Deacon Patrick]

Yeah, but the Mondial doesn't come in 50 or 55, which is what I like. Looks 
like it's Big Ben for me, in a few years.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:01:00 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
> I know guys ... so many choices... tires ... bikes ... on and on :)   And 
> it's wonderful . 
>
> I thought I would want something this wide ... but realized a 40-45mm tire 
> does just fine for me on the Bombadil .  I also have custom Franklin 
> sport/touring type of frame that I think I'll try out some 35mm Kojak's or 
> maybe Marathon Racers on.  Something speedy and fun  where I can hear 
> the tires whizzz and I yell out we   ya know ?  
> :)   
>
>
> Yes Patrick .the Marathon Dureme as far as I know is just like the 
> Supreme with a modified tread.  So they just last and last and last.  I 
> guess it was not considered "tough enough" or something to replace the XR 
> so they came up with the Mondial instead.  All subjective to the rider of 
> course, most find them plenty great . 
>

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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Leslie]

I don't want to 'scare' anyone from proudly displaying it, by no means;  but 
I'm going to think about ways to better secure the pin version.  (As I had it 
on my Acorn's flap, I may very well have knocked the back off and not 
noticed... ).  It's such a nice pin, I don't want anyone else to lose theirs

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[Dan McNamara]

Dang. Leslie beat me to it.

Dan



On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, William  wrote:
>
>> I just can't get on flickr from work.  I will do it tonight.  Sorry and
>> thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:27:03 PM UTC-7, fyavorsky wrote:
>>
>>> Link to your Flickr account to see the photos? Did a search for
>>> Hillbubba, but can't find you. Thanks.
>>> Fred Y.
>>> Jenkintown, PA
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 RB-1 tentatively claimed.  Pending logistical work on my part


 On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:20:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>
> As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate
> raffle.  I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At
> the same time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to 
> thin
> the herd a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale.
>  All are very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two.
>  Three different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of
> 86cm.
>
> Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for
> tires, chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see
> exactly what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family
> vacation house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I
> put on Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it
> about 500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but
> family drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore.
>  Furthermore, it fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too
> small for me now.  Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've
> got pictures and even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work.
>  Contact me offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm
> open to having the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you
> are dying for the frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of
> standard diameter frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the 
> bi-plane
> fork crown.
>
> Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike
> that I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on
> it, and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech
> Deluxe stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17
> saddle, and Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a
> nice low Q Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead
> derailers.  Bolt on wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs.
>  Bomber 36 hole wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in
> the East Bay not far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid 
> adventure
> touring bike.  Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may
> tide you over for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones
> documenting the restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is
> Hillbubba).  Contact me offlist to discuss.
>
> Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially
> because I don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a
> 60cm 1984 Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually 
> unridden
> condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It
> is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every
> day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up
> 600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all
> Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a
> 12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed
> freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double
> crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized
> sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and
> wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders
> with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock 
> SR
> narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr.
>  There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the
> ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or
> the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup
> or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm
> this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter 
> tubes,
> so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneu

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[Leslie]

Lol!  Only by seconds   

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[Dan McNamara]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:49 PM, William  wrote:

> I just can't get on flickr from work.  I will do it tonight.  Sorry and
> thanks.
>
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:27:03 PM UTC-7, fyavorsky wrote:
>
>> Link to your Flickr account to see the photos? Did a search for
>> Hillbubba, but can't find you. Thanks.
>> Fred Y.
>> Jenkintown, PA
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William  wrote:
>>
>>> RB-1 tentatively claimed.  Pending logistical work on my part
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:20:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:

 As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate
 raffle.  I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At
 the same time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to thin
 the herd a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale.
  All are very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two.
  Three different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of
 86cm.

 Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for
 tires, chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see
 exactly what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family
 vacation house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I
 put on Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it
 about 500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but
 family drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore.
  Furthermore, it fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too
 small for me now.  Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've
 got pictures and even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work.
  Contact me offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm
 open to having the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you
 are dying for the frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of
 standard diameter frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the bi-plane
 fork crown.

 Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike
 that I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on
 it, and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech
 Deluxe stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17
 saddle, and Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a
 nice low Q Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead
 derailers.  Bolt on wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs.
  Bomber 36 hole wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in
 the East Bay not far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid adventure
 touring bike.  Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may
 tide you over for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones
 documenting the restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is
 Hillbubba).  Contact me offlist to discuss.

 Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially
 because I don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a
 60cm 1984 Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually unridden
 condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It
 is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every
 day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up
 600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all
 Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a
 12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed
 freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double
 crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized
 sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and
 wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders
 with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock SR
 narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr.
  There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the
 ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or
 the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup
 or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm
 this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter tubes,
 so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneuse.  No,
 it will not take Hetres, with fenders or without.  But it'll take Lierres,
 Pari-Motos, and Soma New Express


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[Leslie]

Should be:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/ 

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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Garth]

I know guys ... so many choices... tires ... bikes ... on and on :)   And 
it's wonderful . 

I thought I would want something this wide ... but realized a 40-45mm tire 
does just fine for me on the Bombadil .  I also have custom Franklin 
sport/touring type of frame that I think I'll try out some 35mm Kojak's or 
maybe Marathon Racers on.  Something speedy and fun  where I can hear 
the tires whizzz and I yell out we   ya know ?  
:)   


Yes Patrick .the Marathon Dureme as far as I know is just like the 
Supreme with a modified tread.  So they just last and last and last.  I 
guess it was not considered "tough enough" or something to replace the XR 
so they came up with the Mondial instead.  All subjective to the rider of 
course, most find them plenty great . 

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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Don Compton]

Thanks for the heads up.
Don

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:50:48 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>
> Don,  be careful!  I had my first pin on my Acorn; after a year, one day 
> as I was putting up my bike, noticed my pin was gone :( , which is why I 
> eagerly ordered another.   And, is the reason I ordered a couple of 
> patches, so I can stitch them on, and not lose them...

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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Leslie]

Don,  be careful!  I had my first pin on my Acorn; after a year, one day as I 
was putting up my bike, noticed my pin was gone :( , which is why I eagerly 
ordered another.   And, is the reason I ordered a couple of patches, so I can 
stitch them on, and not lose them...

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[William]

I just can't get on flickr from work.  I will do it tonight.  Sorry and 
thanks.  

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:27:03 PM UTC-7, fyavorsky wrote:
>
> Link to your Flickr account to see the photos? Did a search for Hillbubba, 
> but can't find you. Thanks.
> Fred Y.
> Jenkintown, PA
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William  >wrote:
>
>> RB-1 tentatively claimed.  Pending logistical work on my part
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:20:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>>>
>>> As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate 
>>> raffle.  I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At 
>>> the same time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to thin 
>>> the herd a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale. 
>>>  All are very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two. 
>>>  Three different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of 
>>> 86cm.  
>>>
>>> Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for 
>>> tires, chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see 
>>> exactly what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family 
>>> vacation house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I 
>>> put on Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it 
>>> about 500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but 
>>> family drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore. 
>>>  Furthermore, it fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too 
>>> small for me now.  Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've 
>>> got pictures and even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work. 
>>>  Contact me offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm 
>>> open to having the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you 
>>> are dying for the frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of 
>>> standard diameter frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the bi-plane 
>>> fork crown.  
>>>
>>> Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike 
>>> that I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on 
>>> it, and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech 
>>> Deluxe stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17 
>>> saddle, and Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a 
>>> nice low Q Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead 
>>> derailers.  Bolt on wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs. 
>>>  Bomber 36 hole wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in 
>>> the East Bay not far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid adventure 
>>> touring bike.  Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may 
>>> tide you over for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones 
>>> documenting the restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is 
>>> Hillbubba).  Contact me offlist to discuss.  
>>>
>>> Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially because 
>>> I don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a 60cm 1984 
>>> Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually unridden 
>>> condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It 
>>> is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every 
>>> day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up 
>>> 600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all 
>>> Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a 
>>> 12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed 
>>> freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double 
>>> crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized 
>>> sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and 
>>> wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders 
>>> with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock SR 
>>> narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr. 
>>>  There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the 
>>> ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or 
>>> the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup 
>>> or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm 
>>> this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter tubes, 
>>> so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneuse.  No, 
>>> it will not take Hetres, with fenders or without.  But it'll take Lierres, 
>>> Pari-Motos, and Soma New Express
>>>
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[RBW] Cowboy Trail Update

[Kelly]

Well we are one day from getting back to he car.   Goat heads took a toll, for 
one rider with eight flats this week.
Yet it's been a great time.  I put some photos up that haven't been cropped or 
anything but should show some of the fun we are having.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157633975989097/

Enjoy

Kelly

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[yavo]

Link to your Flickr account to see the photos? Did a search for Hillbubba,
but can't find you. Thanks.
Fred Y.
Jenkintown, PA


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:14 PM, William  wrote:

> RB-1 tentatively claimed.  Pending logistical work on my part
>
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:20:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>>
>> As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate
>> raffle.  I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At
>> the same time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to thin
>> the herd a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale.
>>  All are very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two.
>>  Three different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of
>> 86cm.
>>
>> Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for
>> tires, chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see
>> exactly what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family
>> vacation house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I
>> put on Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it
>> about 500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but
>> family drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore.
>>  Furthermore, it fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too
>> small for me now.  Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've
>> got pictures and even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work.
>>  Contact me offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm
>> open to having the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you
>> are dying for the frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of
>> standard diameter frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the bi-plane
>> fork crown.
>>
>> Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike
>> that I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on
>> it, and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech
>> Deluxe stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17
>> saddle, and Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a
>> nice low Q Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead
>> derailers.  Bolt on wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs.
>>  Bomber 36 hole wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in
>> the East Bay not far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid adventure
>> touring bike.  Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may
>> tide you over for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones
>> documenting the restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is
>> Hillbubba).  Contact me offlist to discuss.
>>
>> Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially because
>> I don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a 60cm 1984
>> Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually unridden
>> condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It
>> is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every
>> day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up
>> 600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all
>> Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a
>> 12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed
>> freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double
>> crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized
>> sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and
>> wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders
>> with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock SR
>> narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr.
>>  There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the
>> ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or
>> the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup
>> or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm
>> this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter tubes,
>> so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneuse.  No,
>> it will not take Hetres, with fenders or without.  But it'll take Lierres,
>> Pari-Motos, and Soma New Express
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

[dougP]

We'd picked July with the 12th, 19th & 26th open.  I need to contact the 
park to see if they've got any large groups scheduled.  Now is a good time 
to do so as I expect any large group would need to plan well in advance.

OTH, if the stars align for an out of town adventure with the NorCal group 
that would be preferable.  People have more flexibility in summer so I 
think the turnout would be better.  Those elevations are definitely for 
summer time too.  I don't know any of those areas so it would be new turf, 
which is always welcome.  

dougP

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:53:37 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
> tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a 
> weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is 
> going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
> camp? 
>
> Best,
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:28:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton 
>> get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like 
>> Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including 
>> Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single 
>> lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
>>   There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[William]

RB-1 tentatively claimed.  Pending logistical work on my part

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 12:20:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:
>
> As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate raffle. 
>  I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At the same 
> time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to thin the herd 
> a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale.  All are 
> very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two.  Three 
> different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of 86cm.  
>
> Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for 
> tires, chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see 
> exactly what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family 
> vacation house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I 
> put on Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it 
> about 500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but 
> family drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore. 
>  Furthermore, it fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too 
> small for me now.  Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've 
> got pictures and even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work. 
>  Contact me offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm 
> open to having the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you 
> are dying for the frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of 
> standard diameter frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the bi-plane 
> fork crown.  
>
> Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike 
> that I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on 
> it, and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech 
> Deluxe stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17 
> saddle, and Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a 
> nice low Q Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead 
> derailers.  Bolt on wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs. 
>  Bomber 36 hole wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in 
> the East Bay not far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid adventure 
> touring bike.  Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may 
> tide you over for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones 
> documenting the restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is 
> Hillbubba).  Contact me offlist to discuss.  
>
> Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially because I 
> don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a 60cm 1984 
> Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually unridden 
> condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It 
> is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every 
> day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up 
> 600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all 
> Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a 
> 12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed 
> freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double 
> crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized 
> sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and 
> wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders 
> with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock SR 
> narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr. 
>  There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the 
> ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or 
> the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup 
> or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm 
> this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter tubes, 
> so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneuse.  No, 
> it will not take Hetres, with fenders or without.  But it'll take Lierres, 
> Pari-Motos, and Soma New Express
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Deacon Patrick]

$50 each? No. Garth is asking $80 each, including shipping. My #100 
referred to where on our family list of priorities tires for my bike (the 
only 700 we have) currently set. I actually have no tires in waiting, so am 
hoping for a lot more years from my current Duremes. Touring back roads, 
goat heads, and all I've not (yet) gotten a flat in over a year. These are 
great tires and a shame Schwalbe does not make them any more.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:52:57 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 14:44 -0700, Deacon Patrick wrote: 
> > Och! If only the next pair of tires for my bike weren't #100 on the 
> > list I'd be all over these. 
>
> Only fifty bucks each?  What we're now calling "cheap tires..." 
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 14:44 -0700, Deacon Patrick wrote:
> Och! If only the next pair of tires for my bike weren't #100 on the
> list I'd be all over these.

Only fifty bucks each?  What we're now calling "cheap tires..."



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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Deacon Patrick]

Och! If only the next pair of tires for my bike weren't #100 on the list 
I'd be all over these.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:16:51 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
> These are still available !!
>
> $160 Shipped to the USA states. I discovered these will fit into a USPS 
> Priority Mail Box so they'll ship that way . 
>

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[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[Liesl]

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon 
>> discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they 
>> want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be 
>> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
>> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 
>
>  
> Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote:
>
 

> But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to 
> others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior 
> group of people? 
>

While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that  I am not 
smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of 
people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love 
for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles.  We are 
bound by love and that is our sameness.

okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0)
-RCW

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Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[Steve Palincsar]

On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 13:39 -0700, pb wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an
> anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever
> kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they
> are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness
> (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf,
> tire width, position, etc.). 
>  
> But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to
> others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a
> superior group of people? 
> 

Cogito ergo sum?



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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Don Compton]

Just got my pin. Its perfect for my Acorn "roll bag" on my Roadeo.
Thanks

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:30:30 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a 
> store...but I think it's a go.
>
> Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is 
> there.
>
> I may tweak some things once I get the feel but I would love to get 
> feedback too.
>
> This will be a first for this stay home parent, cyclist, artist, coffee 
> drankernow online purveyor.
>
> Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen STORE
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[pb]

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon 
> discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they 
> want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be 
> celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
> (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 

 
But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to 
others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior 
group of people? 

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[RBW] New to me Atlantis

[Matt Gilkey]

Erl,

I am so happy you like the bike.  The build looks awesome!  I really like how 
the bike looks with those big apples. I am glad to see the Atlantis went to a 
good home. I hope you have many more enjoyable miles with the bike.  

-Matt

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

[Mike Schiller]

I was up there last summer for a backpacking trip out of Florence lake and 
thought that the roads would be perfect for a fat tired bike tour. We could 
do day rides from Huntington or even a tour to Vermilion Resort.   
http://www.edisonlake.com/   The roads to Florence  and Edsion lakes are 
 the most remote in the Sierra's. The roads are paved now but past Kaiser 
Pass they look like someone just paved a dirt road with out grading.  

It's a 4 hr drive  from LA or SF so a three day weekend would allow for 2 
days of riding.  


The is good riding also in the Alta Sierra Range  west of Lake Isabella. 
Better in Sept maybe. One could ride up to the old logging mill in 
Johnsondale and then up towards Alta Sierra on narrow paved roads through 
pine forests. 

~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Am I nuts?

[Brian Hanson]

On the recent Seattle vs Portland Rumble ride, we had 3 Hilsens and a Hillborne 
do a few miles of nasty rutted jeep trail down a 4-10% grade at speed 
(15-30mph) for a few miles. I was amazed how completely great the bike felt on 
a ride I would normally do on a front suspension MTB. This was with "skinny" 
Cypres tires and a boxy Rando bag on the front Mark's rack with two cameras, a 
rain coat, and trail mix inside. I managed to pinch flat the rear tire on one 
of the nastier sections, but this was my fault in that I dumped some air 
pressure thinking I would need more traction. My biggest problem was feet 
slipping off the pedals on some big hits.

The country bike is a great mountain bike, and it doesn't even need fat tires 
if you are willing to live with a little abuse. It tracked really well for me 
even with a front load, and was never twitchy. Now, the Hunqapillar with 
Albatross, Duremes, and V's felt even more forgiving the day before, but that 
descent was much less knarly except for the short stretch down to the river.  

Mobile Brian Hanson

On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:46 PM, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:

> I know the Rivs are tough...I'm just not willing to bang mine up.  The trails 
> I ride WILL eventually beat up any bike I ride, and even though I'm not 
> riding recklessly bike and rider inevitably will tumble; the odds are just 
> too great on this type of terrain.  There are some fast/flowy sections I 
> would ride my SO... but there are other technical, rooty, rocky and steep 
> parts I will only ride my MTB on.  It's also due to the frame sizing... I've 
> sized my SO and Bomba (larger) for long distance pedaling on fairly 
> predictable terrain; my MTB frame is sized (smaller) for tight, technical 
> gnarly stuff. 
> 
> Granted, it's a personal choice... but I'd be really surprised (and frankly 
> delighted) to run into a Riv on the MTB trails near where I live. 
> 
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:44:58 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>> 
>> As a counterpoint, people have warned for years that I may ruin my Atlantis 
>> using it off road.  So far, only the paint has been damaged and that's 
>> mostly my fault for heaving it over gates & such and my tendency to fall off 
>> every 10 miles or so when on trails.  Rivendells are tough bicycles.
>> 
>> dougP
>> 
>> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:06:15 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>> 
>>> Justin:
>>> That sounds tempting, but don't you worry eventually you may end up 
>>> thrashing your SO?  I mean Wissahickon is pretty rocky, right?  Preserve 
>>> the SO for long life; I say get yourself a nice steel MTB.  In fact you 
>>> should bring your SO up to Lambertville some time. I'll give you an awesome 
>>> tour of our local MTB trails (and you can even try out my spare Niner MCR 
>>> steel 29er).  Save your SO for the pub ride, later. In fact I'll bring MY 
>>> SO, too.  
>>> Peace,
>>> BobbyB
>>> 
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[RBW] FS: Three (3!) very Rivish yet very different used bicycles

[William]

As most of you know, my daughter won the $500 Riv Gift Certificate raffle. 
 I'm trying to build the war-chest to kick off a new project.  At the same 
time, the stable is filled to capacity and I've simply got to thin the herd 
a little bit.  So, I'm offering three of my bikes up for sale.  All are 
very Rivendellish but are each very different from the other two.  Three 
different wheel sizes even!  My saddle height is 75.5cm.  PBH of 86cm.  

Bike 1:  56cm 1992 Bridgestone RB-1.  This bike is stock, except for tires, 
chain and bar tape.  Read the catalog from Sheldon Brown to see exactly 
what it has on it.  I picked this up on eBay to keep at a family vacation 
house in Illinois.  When I got it, it seemed nearly unridden.  I put on 
Ruffy Tuffys (700x28), cloth bar tape, and a new chain, and rode it about 
500 miles over two vacations.  It's still there in Illinois, but family 
drama makes it so we won't be vacationing there anymore.  Furthermore, it 
fits me like a racing bike, so I consider it 2-3cm too small for me now. 
 Let me know if you want to talk about this bike.  I've got pictures and 
even a youtube video for it that I can't link from work.  Contact me 
offline and we can get into it.  Seeking $750 shipped.  I'm open to having 
the bike shipped to me and then parting it out, so if you are dying for the 
frameset, let me know.  The 1992 was the last year of standard diameter 
frame tubes, but preceded the 1993 which had the bi-plane fork crown.  

Bike 2:  22" 1985 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport.  This is another bike that 
I acquired in a virtually stock condition.  I did a full overhaul on it, 
and sold the stock cockpit to Montclair Bobby B.  I put on a Tech Deluxe 
stem, 46cm Noodle bars, and Silver barcon shifters.  Black B-17 saddle, and 
Soma New Express folding 26x1.75 tires.  Highlights include a nice low Q 
Specialized crankset with round rings, Shimano Deerhead derailers.  Bolt on 
wheels with immortal Specialized sealed bearing hubs.  Bomber 36 hole 
wheels.  Seeking $400 and local pickup or delivery (I'm in the East Bay not 
far from Riv HQ).  I think of it as a very solid adventure touring bike. 
 Like if you don't have $3500 for a 56cm Atlantis, this may tide you over 
for 15% of the price.  Plenty of pics including the ones documenting the 
restoration are on my flicker (my flickr handle is Hillbubba).  Contact me 
offlist to discuss.  

Bike 3:  This is the one I'm least eager to part with, partially because I 
don't think many other people will love it like I do.  It is a 60cm 1984 
Miyata 912.  I acquired this also in stock and virtually unridden 
condition.  I gave it a full overhaul and did a 650B conversion on it.  It 
is now my daily commuter, that travels to work on the roof of my car every 
day.  On the way home I ride 2 miles to South Hayward BART and 2 miles up 
600ft of climbing to my home on the other end.  The original spec was all 
Shimano 600, the year before Shimano introduced index shifting.  So it's a 
12 speed, with downtube friction shifters.  It's got a 13x24 6-speed 
freewheel in back and I made my own chainguard/42/26 super-compact double 
crankset from a road triple.  My conversion wheelset was NOS specialized 
sealed bearing 32 hole QR hubs, Velocity A23 rims (from Longleaf), and 
wheelsmith spokes.  Soma New Express 650x38B tires.  SKS plastic fenders 
with Riv flaps.  Silver brake calipers.  Tektro brakelevers on the stock SR 
narrow drop handlebars.  Again there are copious pictures on my flickr. 
 There is a set devoted to this bike.  I think of this as the 
ultra-affordable alternative to the $3500 58cm Hilsen you want to buy, or 
the $1500 used Bleriot you've been waiting for.  Seeking $500 local pickup 
or delivery.  Contact offlist to discuss.  At my saddle height of 75.5cm 
this has a classic 'fist-of-post' showing, and has standard diameter tubes, 
so from 20 feet away it has the lines of a classic french randonneuse.  No, 
it will not take Hetres, with fenders or without.  But it'll take Lierres, 
Pari-Motos, and Soma New Express


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Re: [RBW] Re: just ride sighting

[Seth Vidal]

Liesl,
 I would love to meet up - but I don't live in Madison. My Little brother
lives up there and me and the SO have talked about moving up there. We like
the feel and the bike-ness of it. Not sure we can leave Durham, NC, though.
It's a good problem to have, to love too many places. :)

And onto the subject - yes - I would love to be in a swank jenifer st
retreat, too.

I can picture a nice day:
Get up, paddle across the lake and back
Bike down to new glarus brewery
bike home
fall asleep watching the sun go down.



-sv



On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Liesl  wrote:

> Good eye!  I used to live in Madison—well, actually I grew up there— and
> come back for a visit on occasion.  When I do, I'll give you a holler,
> Seth.  Hopefully you'll be in your swank Jenifer Street Lake Monona retreat!
>
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[RBW] Re: just ride sighting

[Liesl]

Good eye!  I used to live in Madison—well, actually I grew up there— and 
come back for a visit on occasion.  When I do, I'll give you a holler, 
Seth.  Hopefully you'll be in your swank Jenifer Street Lake Monona retreat!

Liesl

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Re: [RBW] just ride sighting

[Peter Morgano]

Does this mean that Rivendell is becoming so trendy that it is used in
house staging? My next paint job will have to be decal free, haha.


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> I was looking at houses on zillow for completely non-sensical reasons when
> I saw something on a table in a picture:
>
>
> http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/725-Jenifer-St-Madison-WI-53703/2127245549_zpid/
>
> In the 14th picture there - look on the table.
>
> Wish I had the cash to buy that house even more, now. :)
>
> -sv
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[RBW] Re: It is BACK!

[Ron Mc]

drop-dead-gorgeous

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:44:14 PM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> The new blue is stunning!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Seattle tour Oct. 1st: weather too iffy?

[Anne Paulson]

Going to Ashland could be Plan A, in fact. I like Ashland. We'd
probably take the train to the start of the tour, but Ashland is easy
to get to from Klamath Falls.

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:06 AM, bo richardson  wrote:
> I dont know how you are planning to get here in the first place but.
>
> if the weather has turned here when you are ready to leave you could
> initiate Plan B and go to
> Ashland Oregon  and do spokes on a wheel touring from there. Ashland has
> restaurants and there should be good theatre in the evenings.
>
> In my experience north of Seattle is better cycling than south of Seattle.
> But if you like starting somewhere and riding home as a tour you have a
> better feel for your range of distance than anyone else.
> \
> Gear wise I had a nightmare experience with Hilltrek and am not all that
> taken with the jacket I finally recieved.
> If i had it to do over again i might shop the Orvis tent sale especially
> this time of year instead.
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:00:13 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>
>> Hey Pacific Northwest Riv folks,
>>
>> My touring buddy and I are thinking about a bike tour starting end of
>> Sept/beginning of Oct, loaded touring with camping. He suggested
>> starting in Seattle and heading south. I love the Pacific Northwest,
>> but it strikes me that October would be too late in the year, too
>> cold, rainy and dark, for a fun tour, and we should leave Seattle for
>> another year and start further south. What do you think?
>>
>> I suppose we could also consider doing the tour, but credit-card
>> style. But we both like camping and don't really like motels.
>>
>> --
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> My hovercraft is full of eels
>>
>>
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>>
>> My hovercraft is full of eels
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[RBW] Re: Am I nuts?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

To paraphrase something Grant wrote a while back, "...a bike with no 
scratches is a bike with no stories."

Get that bike out there and use it.  Repaint it when it gets bad or bothers 
you.  I've yet to see anyone actually wear out a Rivendell. 

- Jim 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Phil Wood SS (fixed-free) Rear Wheel

[jar351]

SOLD! (Finally) Thanks everyone.

>

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[RBW] Re: New Tektro TRP Levers - Review

[Irv]

Replacement hoods available here: 
http://www.trpbrakes.com/category.php?productid=1180&catid=188&subcat=0

On Monday, June 3, 2013 11:34:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I splurged on the new Levers with Gum hoods.  I had to swallow a bit on 
> the price, especially since you can get the older style Cane Creek version 
> with gum hoods for a third the price.  I have no regrets.
>
> The levers come with a little insert that goes under the hood, depending 
> on where on the bars you want them - and an instructional picture that was 
> useless.  It was a little awkward getting that on but after that the 
> installation was a snap.  The brake cable goes over the lever and you get a 
> really good view of the hole you are trying to hit.  That's important for 
> my old eyes. 
>
> The levers are very comfortable, perhaps a tad narrower than the ones they 
> replaced but very pleasing to my hands, both sitting and standing.  They 
> pull a lot of cable, which makes set up with canti brakes very simple. They 
> have a very light touch and a nice feature on the quick release.  Instead 
> of resetting the QR pin manually these automatically reset when you 
> compress the lever.  Again nice for us old guys who often say the Senility 
> Prayer:
>
> God grant that I only forget the people I don't like, only bump into the 
> ones I do, and the eye sight to tell them apart.
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Atlantis 56cm

[Andy Forquer]

Hi All,
 
Saw a recent flurry of questions in my inbox this morning, so knew the 
thread must have been bumped.
 
The RB-1 and Atlantis have both been sold to new/happy Bay Area Owners 
(RBWBAOB for short).  I'm sure you'll see them around, and thanks for the 
interest.  Happy Riding!
 
Best,
 
Andy
 
 

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:50:38 PM UTC-7, Pepe Demarest wrote:

> I too would like to know if either is still available.
>
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2013 5:06:31 PM UTC-5, Andy Forquer wrote: 
>>
>>  Selling my 54.5cm Rivendell Atlantis, as I am moving to grad-school and 
>> would like to trim down the fleet.
>>
>> This bike was purchased less than a year ago from the Rivendell Garage 
>> Sale - where it had been used as a demo bike.  Therefore, it is very low 
>> mileage, with only a little paint removed from the right chainstay due to 
>> chain-suck.  It is one of the fancier lugged, Japanese Atlantis's from the 
>> early 2000's - and can provide the serial if needed.
>>
>> Being sold without the saddle, saddle bag, rack, bell, and water-bottles. 
>>  Willing to negotiate on those items if interested.
>>
>> Also selling my 56cm 
>> RB-1... could make 
>> quite the twin setup!
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seattle tour Oct. 1st: weather too iffy?

[Shawn Granton]

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 1:53:24 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> Kind of what Stone Hog said... anything after mid-September is 
> questionable. That said, we can have beautiful weather through mid-late 
> Oct. Even if days are nice, nights will be cool to cold depending on 
> elevation. 
>
> I'd say mid-September is a wee bit on the conservative side for the 
sun/gray line. Yeah, the chances of rain increase around then, but it's 
typically maybe a day or two of rain vs. a full fledged onslaught. October 
is a bit more risky, but as Stonehog pointed out, we had bone-dry weather 
last year until October 12th. The one positive about Northwest weather, 
especially rain, is it's coming in from the Pacific, and meteorologists can 
see the storms coming from a few days away. 

-Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Seattle tour Oct. 1st: weather too iffy?

[bo richardson]

I dont know how you are planning to get here in the first place but.
 
if the weather has turned here when you are ready to leave you could 
initiate Plan B and go to 
Ashland Oregon  and do spokes on a wheel touring from there. Ashland has 
restaurants and there should be good theatre in the evenings.
 
In my experience north of Seattle is better cycling than south of Seattle. 
But if you like starting somewhere and riding home as a tour you have a 
better feel for your range of distance than anyone else.
\
Gear wise I had a nightmare experience with Hilltrek and am not all that 
taken with the jacket I finally recieved.
If i had it to do over again i might shop the Orvis tent sale especially 
this time of year instead.
 

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:00:13 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:

> Hey Pacific Northwest Riv folks, 
>
> My touring buddy and I are thinking about a bike tour starting end of 
> Sept/beginning of Oct, loaded touring with camping. He suggested 
> starting in Seattle and heading south. I love the Pacific Northwest, 
> but it strikes me that October would be too late in the year, too 
> cold, rainy and dark, for a fun tour, and we should leave Seattle for 
> another year and start further south. What do you think? 
>
> I suppose we could also consider doing the tour, but credit-card 
> style. But we both like camping and don't really like motels. 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> My hovercraft is full of eels 
>
>
> -- 
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>
> My hovercraft is full of eels 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 47cm Hilsen in Denver for anyone looking

[G.E. of EVL]

Thanks for posting this! I really appreciate it. I hope the Homer goes to a 
good home too. :O)

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:41:54 AM UTC-6, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
> Here's back story on the sale:
>
> http://endlessvelolove.blogspot.com/2013/06/rivendell-homer-hilsen-for-sale-and.html
>
> Glad her spouse is doing better. Hope AHH goes to a good home.
>
>
> On Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:42:45 AM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:
>>
>> Just saw this listed on Craigs list 
>> Denver.No affiliation at 
>> all, but a fairly solid deal for a complete smaller AHH.
>
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[RBW] New to me Atlantis

[WETH]

Superlatives are inadequate.  I am thrilled and contented with my Atlantis. 
This bike makes me want to "just ride" and ride and ride and ride.
My thanks to Matt Gilkey (for a great transaction on the frame, fork,hs, and 
stem) and Peter G (handlebars and both sets of brake levers.).   Brian Tester 
answered my many questions on parts with much patience.  Thanks to his advice 
the bike came together well.  Any problems rest solely with the mechanic (me).

The bike rides amazingly well.  Already owning a Surly LHT, I was unprepared 
for such a fabulous ride: quick, steady, nimble.  I assumed the ride of LHT and 
the Atlantis would be the same.  In defense of my Surly, it is loaded down with 
racks and Saddlesacks full of too much stuff.  The 26x2.15 Big Apples give the 
same supple ride as the 26x2.35s on my Surly.  I haven't ridden drop bars in 
over 20 years, but I find the Noodles incredibly comfortable for long 
distances.  The Surly will remain for commuting and the Atlantis will be ridden 
on long weekend and the ocassional weekday rambles!

Over the last two days I rode 100 miles around D.C. and along the C&O Canal.  
Here are some photos from out in the wild: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjFPBw5e
I rode on mixed use trails, the gravel C&O canal towpath, and roads.  The 
Atlantis handled all surfaces and situations well.  I will stop gushing, though 
I could not be more pleased with a bike.  Bar tape arrives Monday!

I should also thank this group for the generous sharing of knowledge.
Thanks.
Erl

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[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?

[hsmitham]

Mike that's an interesting idea, I was recently thinking about a short 
tour/camping in the Southern Sierra. I'd be game if it was scheduled on a 
weekend  I'll take a day or more off if necessary. I too like where this is 
going. Doug don't we have a S240 tentatively planned in July? El Morro 
camp? 

Best,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:28:22 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> The Central Coast has some nice rides for sure. Except Paso and Templeton 
> get really hot in summer... like 100 degrees.  How about somewhere like 
> Huntington Lake. There are some nice backcounty roads up there including 
> Kaiser Pass. The roads into Edison and Florence lake are remote, single 
> lane and above 7000 ft. There are campgrounds and hotels around Huntington. 
>   There is quite a bit of climbing to Kaiser pass which is at 9184 ft.
>
> ~mike
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Am I nuts?

[Montclair BobbyB]

I know the Rivs are tough...I'm just not willing to bang mine up.  The 
trails I ride WILL eventually beat up any bike I ride, and even though I'm 
not riding recklessly bike and rider inevitably will tumble; the odds are 
just too great on this type of terrain.  There are some fast/flowy sections 
I would ride my SO... but there are other technical, rooty, rocky and steep 
parts I will only ride my MTB on.  It's also due to the frame sizing... 
I've sized my SO and Bomba (larger) for long distance pedaling on fairly 
predictable terrain; my MTB frame is sized (smaller) for tight, technical 
gnarly stuff. 

Granted, it's a personal choice... but I'd be really surprised (and frankly 
delighted) to run into a Riv on the MTB trails near where I live. 

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:44:58 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> As a counterpoint, people have warned for years that I may ruin my 
> Atlantis using it off road.  So far, only the paint has been damaged and 
> that's mostly my fault for heaving it over gates & such and my tendency to 
> fall off every 10 miles or so when on trails.  Rivendells are tough 
> bicycles.
>
> dougP
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:06:15 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>
>> Justin:
>>
>> That sounds tempting, but don't you worry eventually you may end up 
>> thrashing your SO?  I mean Wissahickon is pretty rocky, right?  Preserve 
>> the SO for long life; I say get yourself a nice steel MTB.  In fact you 
>> should bring your SO up to Lambertville some time. I'll give you an awesome 
>> tour of our local MTB trails (and you can even try out my spare Niner MCR 
>> steel 29er).  Save your SO for the pub ride, later. In fact I'll bring MY 
>> SO, too.  
>> Peace,
>> BobbyB
>>
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[RBW] just ride sighting

[Seth Vidal]

I was looking at houses on zillow for completely non-sensical reasons when
I saw something on a table in a picture:

http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/725-Jenifer-St-Madison-WI-53703/2127245549_zpid/

In the 14th picture there - look on the table.

Wish I had the cash to buy that house even more, now. :)

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Large Sackville SaddleSack

[hsmitham]

Mike,

They do look great and I wish I could pick one of them up for the Homer but 
already spent loads on racks and panniers. I have yet to see one in person. 

~Hugh

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 3:48:21 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:
>
> Saw that these are back in stock in green and in the new tan color which 
> looks great. Anyone seen the new tan SaddleSacks in person? I imagine they 
> look even better. Anyone order one? 
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bassl-tan.htm
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Re: Nice JP Valiensi bike w/ Many Riv Parts

[Mike Schiller]

that's too bad James... and from my undergrad Alma mater to boot.  You've 
sure built some beautiful bikes.
If I see anything I'll let you know.

~mike


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[RBW] Re: FS: 47cm Hilsen in Denver for anyone looking

[Shoji Takahashi]

Here's back story on the sale:
http://endlessvelolove.blogspot.com/2013/06/rivendell-homer-hilsen-for-sale-and.html

Glad her spouse is doing better. Hope AHH goes to a good home.


On Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:42:45 AM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:
>
> Just saw this listed on Craigs list 
> Denver.No affiliation at 
> all, but a fairly solid deal for a complete smaller AHH.

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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Garth]

These are still available !!

$160 Shipped to the USA states. I discovered these will fit into a USPS 
Priority Mail Box so they'll ship that way . 

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[RBW] Re: Nice JP Valiensi bike w/ Many Riv Parts

[Liesl]

Hopefully there's a Riv Chica Warrior in the hood who will take on this 
dastardly crime.  Best of luck, RCW

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[RBW] Re: FS- A Pair of Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700x50

[Garth]

These are still available !!

$160 Shipped to the Lower 48. 

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[RBW] FS: 47cm Hilsen in Denver for anyone looking

[jinxed]

Just saw this listed on Craigs list 
Denver.No affiliation at all, 
but a fairly solid deal for a complete smaller AHH.

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[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[Christopher Murray]

Awesome cartoon but please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into 
an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike 
it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should 
be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences 
(steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). 

Cheers! 
cm

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Re: [RBW] Albas...steel or aluminum? Please help me decide...

[Nick Worthington]

Michael:  Glad to know it's not me :.)  My steel bosco's are still 
slipping.  I'm wondering if something like Loctite will help

Nick W.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:59:16 AM UTC-7, ccanter wrote:
>
> Michael,
>  I have both.  The only difference I can tell, other than the weight, and 
> I can't perceive any 
> difference between the two when attached to a bicycle is the aluminum one 
> seems to be
> less prone to slippage in the stem. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys

[shawn]

Great cartoon. I get so, so tired of roadies with a 25-30 lb spare tires 
stuffed into lycra making comments about how much my Roadeo weighs.

On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:53:07 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
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> Thought the group might enjoy this. Mud Stud obviously doesn't work at RBW 
> ... 
>
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RE: [RBW] Am I nuts?

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

I'd join you guys on that ride!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 10:06 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Am I nuts?

Justin:

That sounds tempting, but don't you worry eventually you may end up thrashing 
your SO?  I mean Wissahickon is pretty rocky, right?  Preserve the SO for long 
life; I say get yourself a nice steel MTB.  In fact you should bring your SO up 
to Lambertville some time. I'll give you an awesome tour of our local MTB 
trails (and you can even try out my spare Niner MCR steel 29er).  Save your SO 
for the pub ride, later. In fact I'll bring MY SO, too.  
Peace,
BobbyB

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Re: [RBW] Re: Am I nuts?

[Eric Platt]

Guess it depends on the trails.  There are some around here where I can
ride my SO.  Others are tracks so deep the cranks hit the sides and with
enough fall-offs that I'd prefer wider tires and some sort of shock.  In
fact, many of the trails in Minnesota now seem to be maintained/modified
specifically for shocked bikes.

Will still say go for it.  The SO will stand up to the abuse.  Mine handles
my oversized body on it with no complaint and that's certainly more stress
than a trail will cause.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:44 PM, dougP  wrote:

> As a counterpoint, people have warned for years that I may ruin my
> Atlantis using it off road.  So far, only the paint has been damaged and
> that's mostly my fault for heaving it over gates & such and my tendency to
> fall off every 10 miles or so when on trails.  Rivendells are tough
> bicycles.
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Wednesday, June 5, 2013 7:06:15 PM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>
>> Justin:
>>
>> That sounds tempting, but don't you worry eventually you may end up
>> thrashing your SO?  I mean Wissahickon is pretty rocky, right?  Preserve
>> the SO for long life; I say get yourself a nice steel MTB.  In fact you
>> should bring your SO up to Lambertville some time. I'll give you an awesome
>> tour of our local MTB trails (and you can even try out my spare Niner MCR
>> steel 29er).  Save your SO for the pub ride, later. In fact I'll bring MY
>> SO, too.
>> Peace,
>> BobbyB
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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[hsmitham]

Hi Brad,

Went to the store and well I'm glad the patches are selling . Wondering 
when you'll have the next batch up? You can put me down for 2 patches, 2 
pins, and 2 buttons. 

Best,

Hugh Sunland, CA

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:30:30 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a 
> store...but I think it's a go.
>
> Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is 
> there.
>
> I may tweak some things once I get the feel but I would love to get 
> feedback too.
>
> This will be a first for this stay home parent, cyclist, artist, coffee 
> drankernow online purveyor.
>
> Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen STORE
>  
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