[RBW] Re: escape from the new flickr
Thanks Joe .. that helps some with the Flickr current madness. Do you know of any Greasemonkey or other scripts to revert to a small thumbnailed general search , instead of these large ones that are slow as molasses to load ? I -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] escape from the new flickr
On Thu, 2013-06-06 at 21:47 -0700, Joe Bunik wrote: FWIW... apparently one may (at least for the moment) append ?details=1 to the url of a flickr user's photostream view and restore a semblance of the old-style layout. E.g., http://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik?details=1 Marvelous! Thank you for posting this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Log your RBW video requests here...
Great idea, Michael. I think 2-3 contrasting examples of packing up for an S24O would be entertaining. It would be amusing to see what folks choose to take, how they stuff their bags, and how gear is stowed on bikes. It could be similar to the website staff bikes gallery that does a great job of showing different builds, but with more details and more educational benefit for the newbie camper. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
it's certainly a departure, but a classy-looking saddle nontheless. Does ride like it need break-in? Looking forward to a 200 or 300-mi report. Thanks. On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:43:17 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Thanks for those pics Bob. I think they are trying to make it their waterproof saddle or something? Let us know how it rides/feels. Can you post an eye level profile shot so we can see the contour of the seat top from the rear to nose? Also an eye level pic of back of saddle to see the shape of the arc of the saddle top from left to right? Just if you have time. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Thanks for this review and pictures. Definitely plan to get one. On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote: I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on a bike (probably my daily ride, the Hunq), I did take some pictures to prove it happened. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157633977211833/ I generally ride the B-17 model and I've got a bunch of those in standard, Special, and the new Select. The C-17 definitely feels lighter (though of course that's not really a concern). It also is made with less material than a B-17 and doesn't have the 'skirting' down the sides. Since it doesn't feel as 'slick' as worn leather I wondering if it'll grab the inside of my pant legs. I guess we'll find out. The overall look of the saddle is pleasing and I'm sure it'll look nice on my Hunq (or QB). I was sent one in 'natural' and I'm pretty sure it's going to get dirty quick...I've heard that from one of the other testers who read an blog entry I wrote when I was informed I'd been chosen. Unfortunately I've to run a non-bike errand right now so mounting it and the first ride will have to come a bit later. I'm thinking I should just mount it and and then swap seat posts between my Hunq and my QB to give it workout on both bikes. While the first 100 have been chosen and probably have all received their saddles (living in Hawaii I'm probably one of the last to receive the shipment), the did open it up by 50 more. I don't know if they've been chosen but Brooks did suggest everyone sign up because one could be chosen for other products. The sign-up page is still open at: http://www.brooksengland.com/cambium/ Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com javascript: statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Anxiously awaiting a restock of the patches. That -- or I drank too much coffee this morning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis? -sv On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
BTW, the patches arae significantly larger than I was expecting. Just good stuff! Cheers, David On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the Southern Sierras with a slight preference for the mountains. What dates are we talking about? I have a trip planned from July 5-9 but could get away for three or so days any other weekend in July. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
SLO would be great, especially if it revolved Firestone Public House! I'm probably unavailable for any extended trip, but late July or August weekends miight work. Cheers, David On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:36 AM, allenmichael allenmich...@mac.com wrote: I would be interested in a few days either in SLO or the Southern Sierras with a slight preference for the mountains. What dates are we talking about? I have a trip planned from July 5-9 but could get away for three or so days any other weekend in July. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Nice JP Valiensi bike w/ Many Riv Parts
Yeah, I was going to say, I was looking through James' Flickr pics. That blue road bike he built looks tasty! And it's impressively light with a minimum of crabon. Very nice work: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jamespatrickvaliensi/4821788313/in/set-72157624567561712 On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:45:58 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: that's too bad James... and from my undergrad Alma mater to boot. You've sure built some beautiful bikes. If I see anything I'll let you know. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Oh man Brooks went thru all that to make a wonderful new idea in a saddle ... and they persist in using short rails ! Say it ain't so !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be changed but the date needs to be set in place. I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: New Tektro TRP Levers - Review
The TRP levers are angled outwards, making it much much easier to brake. It can make a big difference on long descents. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Seth, If he made a patch with the Tardis I'd buy it! And yes a bit. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis? -sv On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XVzRNqkQQPQ/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Wow... I LIKE the look so far... I guess only time and prolonged usage will tell how it stacks up to their leather saddles. Good luck... keep the pics and reports coming. On Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:13:12 PM UTC-4, Statrixbob wrote: I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on a bike (probably my daily ride, the Hunq), I did take some pictures to prove it happened. http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/sets/72157633977211833/ I generally ride the B-17 model and I've got a bunch of those in standard, Special, and the new Select. The C-17 definitely feels lighter (though of course that's not really a concern). It also is made with less material than a B-17 and doesn't have the 'skirting' down the sides. Since it doesn't feel as 'slick' as worn leather I wondering if it'll grab the inside of my pant legs. I guess we'll find out. The overall look of the saddle is pleasing and I'm sure it'll look nice on my Hunq (or QB). I was sent one in 'natural' and I'm pretty sure it's going to get dirty quick...I've heard that from one of the other testers who read an blog entry I wrote when I was informed I'd been chosen. Unfortunately I've to run a non-bike errand right now so mounting it and the first ride will have to come a bit later. I'm thinking I should just mount it and and then swap seat posts between my Hunq and my QB to give it workout on both bikes. While the first 100 have been chosen and probably have all received their saddles (living in Hawaii I'm probably one of the last to receive the shipment), the did open it up by 50 more. I don't know if they've been chosen but Brooks did suggest everyone sign up because one could be chosen for other products. The sign-up page is still open at: http://www.brooksengland.com/cambium/ Aloha! Bob -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfhar...@gmail.com javascript: statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function in the world. *This *thing is *ugly.* Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:50:22 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Oh man Brooks went thru all that to make a wonderful new idea in a saddle ... and they persist in using short rails ! Say it ain't so !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Something like this? http://www.etsy.com/listing/153368661/doctor-who-circle-sew-on-patch?ref=v1_other_1 or are you talking about the Tardis-y looking Moka button as a patch? On Friday, June 7, 2013 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Seth, If he made a patch with the Tardis I'd buy it! And yes a bit. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Seth Vidal skv...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis? -sv On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmu...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XVzRNqkQQPQ/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I'd be good with the Southern Sierra on Manny's date. Just wondering though is it worth a 4 hour drive 8 hour RT for two days? Shall we make it at least three? Or would that cause a drop off in participation? Mike since you know the area let's talk route. I imagine we would have have a meet up spot, then ride to a base camp with a next day Rumble. Just throwing it out there perhaps Meet at Shaver lake and ride to Huntington Lake 22 miles for camping then the next day ride out perhaps toward Kaiser peak on some of those graded dirt roads? Or meet at Huntington Lake and ride the 24 miles toward Florence Lake? Let me know what you think? If this firms up I'll look for a USGS map of the area. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com wrote: General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be changed but the date needs to be set in place. I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
July 27-28 works for me. Agree that the date is the primary decision location secondary. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:52:58 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be changed but the date needs to be set in place. I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Stephen, I just bought the small patch. Thanks. Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: Something like this? http://www.etsy.com/listing/153368661/doctor-who-circle-sew-on-patch?ref=v1_other_1 or are you talking about the Tardis-y looking Moka button as a patch? On Friday, June 7, 2013 9:32:01 AM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Seth, If he made a patch with the Tardis I'd buy it! And yes a bit. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 AM, Seth Vidal skv...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does the button look a bit like the Tardis? -sv On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmu...@gmail.com wrote: I received my order yesterday. I immediately removed the branded logo patch on my waxed canvas motorcycle jacket and replaced it with the ACW patch. Much more relevant and pleasing to the eye! Kevin In Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XVzRNqkQQPQ/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XVzRNqkQQPQ/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Hi, Just put together my new used Homer. What a bike! It would be fun to meet up with you guyshowever I will be walking from Lake Tahoe to Yosemite at the end of July. I will keep my eyes open for socal riv riding events. This group really inspires. Take care On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: July 27-28 works for me. Agree that the date is the primary decision location secondary. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:52:58 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: General Rule of thumb for most trips is that the designation can always be changed but the date needs to be set in place. I propose the date for the California Ramble Rumble as July 27-28. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Curtis R. McKenzie Granite Hills High School Home of the 2004, 2007 and 2012 DI Global Champions AP Physics,IB Environmental Systems and Society Instructor Destination Imagination School Coordinator cmcken...@guhsd.net (619) 593-5681 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
graphite fly rods on the bamboo fly rod board, etc. On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:00:58 AM UTC-5, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Country Bike In-The-City Ramble, Portland Oregon, Sunday 9 June
Just bumping this thread as the ride is this Sunday. Hope to see some of you fine folk there. I managed to do a bunch of routing and riding this week, and I guarantee an interesting ride. Some additional things to note about this ride: - There is quite a bit of unpaved action in various forms. I'd say less than 50% but more than 30%. - Estimated cumulative elevation gain is 1,500 feet, if you care about these things. - Don't be afraid to walk your bike. At some points, you're GOING TO HAVE TO. - This ride will meander a LOT. The most direct route between point A and point B may be fast, but it can be boring. - You will be rewarded with quite a bit of secret paths and cut throughs. yours, Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
I have already placed another order to restock the patches. Might have them next week. On Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52:42 AM UTC-6, Ginz wrote: Anxiously awaiting a restock of the patches. That -- or I drank too much coffee this morning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
I got mine last night (and the MOKA pin, too). Thanks! I was happy for the bonus artwork on the package, too. I'm about to refurbish my Europiccola espresso machine, so I'll really be rolling as a caffeinated wheelman again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8979216175/ Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:16:44 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I have already placed another order to restock the patches. Might have them next week. On Friday, June 7, 2013 7:52:42 AM UTC-6, Ginz wrote: Anxiously awaiting a restock of the patches. That -- or I drank too much coffee this morning. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
Phillip!!! I have a Europiccola as well and have been working out some drawings of it to use for a future button or maybe t-shirt!! I thought it would be cool to do an entire series of buttons with different coffee making apparati. I chose the the moka first only because I have a collection of the things. It's very difficult for me to pass them up at thrift stores. On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:28:22 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I got mine last night (and the MOKA pin, too). Thanks! I was happy for the bonus artwork on the package, too. I'm about to refurbish my Europiccola espresso machine, so I'll really be rolling as a caffeinated wheelman again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8979216175/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence lake. Even though it's only ~27 miles one way to each, there is a lot of climbing and the downhills are slow due to the narrow winding roads. I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an overnight to one of the lakes? A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+ miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. There is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. There is also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more primitive campsite off of Stump springs rd. This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on your bike but you have to work for it. SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train. also that weekend works good for me. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I like the idea of access by train or bike. People both from the Bay Area and from the LA area can ride to SLO, but riding through the Central Valley in July is not at all appealing. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence lake. Even though it's only ~27 miles one way to each, there is a lot of climbing and the downhills are slow due to the narrow winding roads. I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an overnight to one of the lakes? A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+ miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. There is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. There is also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more primitive campsite off of Stump springs rd. This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on your bike but you have to work for it. SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train. also that weekend works good for me. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell SF Pop-Up Store
I've been bugging my friend for the past week to go down there to try out the 71cm. He's 6'5 and has yet to find a truly comfortable mtb, hybrid, or road bike. He just called me gushing about the test ride saying things like surreal ride like riding a lazy boy recliner . Think we'll have to go out to walnut creek me to give them a first try, him for a better test ride. Me trying out a rivendell who'd a thunk it, lol. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
When I started following rbw discussions four years ago it seems like there were frequent debates about things like carbon vs steel that would go on for days with literally hundreds of posts. I understand that for long term members those debates were just a tedious rehash of stuff that they had seen here before but to a new member like me they were really compelling and I miss them. These days I just pop in from time to time to see what’s for sale but I happened to click on this and got a little nostalgic. On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth CF without evidence of its defects. This is simply asking listers to be reasonable. Mere expression of bias against this, that, or the other because one doesn't happen to like it is clearly irrational and it is a great way to degrade the content and tone of a list! To say that today's CF bicycles are dangerous because they can fail suddenly with traumatic results for the rider is a reasonable thing to do, as long as one's data is up to date. Saying that billboard graphics are ugly compared to understated graphics is fine as long as one grants sufficient leeway to others' tastes. Saying that tight lycra looks funny on fat people is fine as long as one is not cruel. But simply to sneer at people who do things differently ... well I don't have to complete the sentence. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
I would say keep criticisms limited to the bikes and products, not to their riders. We all know that CF guy and he isn't a bad dude, is he? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth CF without evidence of its defects. This is simply asking listers to be reasonable. Mere expression of bias against this, that, or the other because one doesn't happen to like it is clearly irrational and it is a great way to degrade the content and tone of a list! To say that today's CF bicycles are dangerous because they can fail suddenly with traumatic results for the rider is a reasonable thing to do, as long as one's data is up to date. Saying that billboard graphics are ugly compared to understated graphics is fine as long as one grants sufficient leeway to others' tastes. Saying that tight lycra looks funny on fat people is fine as long as one is not cruel. But simply to sneer at people who do things differently ... well I don't have to complete the sentence. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.comwrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike In-The-City Ramble, Portland Oregon, Sunday 9 June
I really like the idea/ sound of this ride. If you could post a post ride report/ pics that would be swell! Thanks. -Mike Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com wrote: Just bumping this thread as the ride is this Sunday. Hope to see some of you fine folk there. I managed to do a bunch of routing and riding this week, and I guarantee an interesting ride. Some additional things to note about this ride: There is quite a bit of unpaved action in various forms. I'd say less than 50% but more than 30%. Estimated cumulative elevation gain is 1,500 feet, if you care about these things. Don't be afraid to walk your bike. At some points, you're GOING TO HAVE TO. This ride will meander a LOT. The most direct route between point A and point B may be fast, but it can be boring. You will be rewarded with quite a bit of secret paths and cut throughs. yours, Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Portland area riders: Midweek S24O to Oxbow Park, Monday 24 June
Hello folks, especially those in the Portland area! I just posted a s24o trip to the Pedalpalooza calendar. http://www.shift2bikes.org/cal/viewpp2013.php#24-3897 It's to Oxbow Park on the Sandy River on Monday June 24th. I'm limiting the trip to 12 people for now but may open it up to more if interest is there. This ride is ideal for those of us who don't have a typical Mon-Fri 9-5 schedule, but the short distance of the ride (around 10 miles) means that even those that do work regular hours could make it out after work on Monday and get into work on/near time on Tuesday. To note: I don't need to be back to Portland until later afternoon, but Andy (who is also going) will be heading up an early departure. Here's the deets: *Monday June 24 MIDWEEK BIKE CAMPING (S240) TO OXBOW* TBA (Meeting at a Gresham MAX stop, you will get full details when you register) 6:00pm meetup, Depart MAX at 6:30pm, return to PDX late morning Whether you're funemployed or can get off work a little early, a quick little weekday camping excursion is a lot of fun. A 10 mile ride (approx.) from the MAX in Gresham to Oxbow on the Sandy. Moderate traffic/terrain. We should get there before dark, but remember bike lights. You can probably make it to work on time Tuesday! Campsites $22/night, divvied up appropriately. Bring all the things you would need for an overnight camping trip. Previous bike camping experience recommended. Grocery stop in Gresham. Limited to 12 people, register here: http://oxbowjune2013s24o.eventbrite.com/ If you have any questions, please let me know. I also hope to pull off a couple more midweek s24os over the summer. I'll keep you folks posted. yours, Shawn -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... But are you *really* familiar with Grant P's feelings towards carbon bikes: http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html Good Luck! Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
I just came from a shop that heads all the hill country sports events. They were assembling a new carbon bike for a guy standing there and waiting. All great folks, and my favorite shop. They were servicing the BB on the Team Fuji lugged steel frame I bought for my daughter to build on summer break - they went crazy over it. If carbon is for them, more power to them - it ain't for me. On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:01:48 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: I would say keep criticisms limited to the bikes and products, not to their riders. We all know that CF guy and he isn't a bad dude, is he? On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I don't think it's unreasonable at all to ask members *not* to bad mouth CF without evidence of its defects. This is simply asking listers to be reasonable. Mere expression of bias against this, that, or the other because one doesn't happen to like it is clearly irrational and it is a great way to degrade the content and tone of a list! To say that today's CF bicycles are dangerous because they can fail suddenly with traumatic results for the rider is a reasonable thing to do, as long as one's data is up to date. Saying that billboard graphics are ugly compared to understated graphics is fine as long as one grants sufficient leeway to others' tastes. Saying that tight lycra looks funny on fat people is fine as long as one is not cruel. But simply to sneer at people who do things differently ... well I don't have to complete the sentence. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Shaun Meehan meehan...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
However, it's not the technological revolution these billboards want us to believe. It's probably the right edge for a serious racer, but there are people buying them who don't know better and would be better off on our kind of bikes. On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:39:28 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: I just came from a shop that heads all the hill country sports events. They were assembling a new carbon bike for a guy standing there and waiting. All great folks, and my favorite shop. They were servicing the BB on the Team Fuji lugged steel frame I bought for my daughter to build on summer break - they went crazy over it. If carbon is for them, more power to them - it ain't for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Thanks for the pics. I see the contours now. So, the saddle looks like it is made out of metal, rubber, and plastic, and whatever the cloth is on top? Did it stick to your clothes like you thought it would? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.
I'd buy a Europiccola patch, for sure. I'm going to try to get to Thomas Cara tomorrow for the seals and all. Riv-ish aesthetic, but no bikes: http://blog.journeymanproject.net/2012/12/christopher-cara-espresso-machine-purveyor/ Pondero is my Caffeinated Wheelman hero, with his micro-tours. Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:23:04 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: Philip!!! I have a Europiccola as well and have been working out some drawings of it to use for a future button or maybe t-shirt!! I thought it would be cool to do an entire series of buttons with different coffee making apparati. I chose the the moka first only because I have a collection of the things. It's very difficult for me to pass them up at thrift stores. On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:28:22 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I got mine last night (and the MOKA pin, too). Thanks! I was happy for the bonus artwork on the package, too. I'm about to refurbish my Europiccola espresso machine, so I'll really be rolling as a caffeinated wheelman again. http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/8979216175/ Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
It's rubber and special cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn sure they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like that. This testing program is not really a test, it's more of a promo first . Seeing it's going to be released in a matter of days , and people are just getting their test saddles it doesn't leave any time for testing !! On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:51:25 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: So, the saddle looks like it is made out of metal, rubber, and plastic, and whatever the cloth is on top? Did it stick to your clothes like you thought it would? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Weird handlebars
I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: 2.JPG
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can correct misspellings, instead of deleting and reposting !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 14:06 -0700, Garth wrote: It's rubber and special cotton canvas Michael . I'm pretty darn sure they've tested it out so it's not going to stick odd stuff like that. This testing program is not really a test, it's more of a promo first . Seeing it's going to be released in a matter of days , and people are just getting their test saddles it doesn't leave any time for testing !! It's got us talking about it, so at least that part's working. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Weird handlebars
They look interesting, but they can only be mounted on a pop top type stem, which will limit their market I would think. I really wish Nitto made a pop top stem, I have a cheapie on my MB2 and it makes life a lot easier. And no Garth, I don't want to use some adaptor, used them in the past and the damn things creak all the time! On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: ** I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 2.JPG
[RBW] Re: Weird handlebars
Gee, it looks like they took the old TT bars of yore and welded some bar ends at an angle. You do the same with any swept back bar and mount some bar ends facing forward. These bars : Epic Fail ! Ahahahahaaha !! On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:07:14 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Staff bikes really so?
Are they really owned by them, or just the chef specials for the month? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebars
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 14:14 -0700, Garth wrote: Gee, it looks like they took the old TT bars of yore and welded some bar ends at an angle. You do the same with any swept back bar and mount some bar ends facing forward. Put some pointy caps in those facing-forward extensions, it'll be great down at the Tidal Basin when the cherry blossoms are out. They should call it the Pamplona. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New to me Atlantis
Congrats on your new bike! Looks like fun riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebars
Ys Steve !!!Ahahahahahaha !!! The Bull of Pamplona Put some red bar tape on it to top it off !!! On Friday, June 7, 2013 5:18:26 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: Put some pointy caps in those facing-forward extensions, it'll be great down at the Tidal Basin when the cherry blossoms are out. They should call it the Pamplona. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Staff bikes really so?
I believe those are chef specials but, in the past, they have posted an album of real staff bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Great photo! If only it read Rivendell instead of Bridgestone! On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... But are you *really* familiar with Grant P's feelings towards carbon bikes: http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html Good Luck! Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Weird handlebars
Gosh, innovation is good, sure, but those bars - like so much of VO's wares - just don't hold any appeal for me. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
yep it's embarraing On Friday, June 7, 2013 4:08:56 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: OT, And I REALLY do wish there was an editor for our replies so we can correct misspellings, instead of deleting and reposting !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Staff bikes really so?
Bike of the Month and staff bike are not the same thing. Mark's San Marcos BOM is something he put together to sell. His staff bikes are ones he owns/rides. Joe I want that BOM, must sell more bikes first Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:26:59 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote: I believe those are chef specials but, in the past, they have posted an album of real staff bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: 62 cm Rambouillet
Bump... Still on the lookout for a 62cm Rambouillet! On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:13:57 PM UTC-4, rw1911 wrote: Will consider frame set or complete, any color. Please reply offline with condition and price. I also have a blue 60 cm for trade or will be for sale once I find a 62. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I will ask for these dates tonight and see if my better half will join me. On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:53:02 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: Damn Andy and his rumbling shenanigans now there needs to be a rumble in Cal. Slight talks on the other threads. Like to clean things and get things semi more organized. Lets make this happen I'm off for the summer and I wouldn't mind driving down somewhere in the middle. Any ideas? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Weird handlebars
If you add an aero bar (preferably pointed straight up) that will complete the package. Oh, and wing mirrors. Actually, it does look practical, but man, I am impressed and surprised by the continual and ongoing attempt to make something better than the drop bar in its many forms. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: ** I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 2.JPG
[RBW] FS~56 Sam Hillborne, single top tube. Blue w/cream head tube
Hi All, For sale is a 56 Sam Hillborne. It's the single top tube frame special they had on the site a month or two ago. I bought it directly from Rivendell. It's in outstanding condition, only the drop outs and fork ends show evidence of the build up. There is a very faint paint scratch at the top of the seat lug, which came to me that way from Rivendell. The double TT's are 1225.00. These single TT's are all gone but I paid 1165.00 shipped for this one. (My friend has a double TT Sam, same size and I don't notice any difference in feel) This was a bit of an impulse buy...the bike rides great but I have a Riv Custom, 2 Quickbeams and a Saluki. The Sam most duplicates my custom as far as purpose so it's up for sale. Please see the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/sets/72157633993806845/925.00 plus actual shipping. Asking 900.00 plus actual shipping. Thanks, - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?
I picked up some Newbaums tape recently with plans to try cloth...once again. I've done this a few times in the past with different bars, but never been happy with the result for two reasons. First off I found it too thin for comfort, and on top of that could never get it wrapped well around the levers. I always ended up with gaps in one place and all bunched up in others. This really bugs me because I pride myself with normal cork wrap. I can wrap super clean and even with the cheater piece or without using the figure eight approach. Using the narrow, less stretchy cloth I end up with a mess. Ive tried adding a cheater, and even a double figure eight that just created a big mass. I have been mentally preparing a plan of attack while waiting on my repaint. I'm going back to my tried and true mustache bar with old dia-comp non-aero levers. My thinking was this: If I tighten down the levers on the bar, then place some tape over the clamp to hold it in place while I back off the lever body completely, I would have a much smaller obstacle to wrap around with the cloth. Could I essentially leave the threaded portion of the clamp sticking out and then bolt the body back down on top of it once done? I plan to pre wrap the ends of the bar up to the levers with some left over cateye cloth to solve the cush issue. The nittos plethora of curves dont help this issue, but the smaller bodies of the old diacomp do a little. FYI, I do not wrap the shifter cables coming from the bar ends, I just leave them dangle. Dumb idea? Anyone have a better technique for going around the brake lever body bolted in place? Pictures, procedures, postulations? Oh and before you suggest it, I attempted the Jim Varnum harlequin method onceyea...took me a few beers and some therapy to get over that episode in the garage. (ok...the therapy was a joke. the beers weren't.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Ram + Parigi Roubaix + Stan's: report
Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was clicking at the bottom. I'm friction-shifting 8 on my Moser and loving it, Later this month I'm going to help my daughter set up a Shimano 9 using Microshift bar ends. I went with the 9 because the only sensible wide cassette with a road crank is changing 3 cogs on a Miche to end up with 13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-29. Otherwise all the available cassettes are made for a compact cranks. Have more than 100 on my Parigi tubulars and no flats or even marks in the tread. I've been inspecting for cuts at rest stops. But I'm heading way out to the hill country this weekend (Fredericksburg-Harper) and will be riding much rougher roads - I'm bringing Stan's and Zap-a-gap On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:49:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, I've been riding the Ram/Parigi Roubaix and ya know what? No flats in a hundred miles! In other news: the Ram feels really nice -- as good as my customs. I continue to tweak the saddle-bar-height relationship -- we're looking at about 1 difference right now, and that could decrease -- but with our warm weather winds I've been riding recently 8 miles at a stretch into headwinds and it feels quite good. I use no gloves, but the very sensitive heel of my left hand is surprisingly comfortable. I may have to raise the brake bodies a wee bit on the bar's curve. I think I've got the saddle where it needs to be -- perhaps a wee bit too high, but the position is the wonderful (and on some bikes, elusive) perfect spot where you feel you are perfectly far behind the bb so that there is no awkwardness either while spinning fast or while torquing hard to gain momentum. The 7-speed Dura Ace system, in indexed mode, requires an annoying fine tune between over- and under-shifting: reminds me why I've not used indexing for 20+ years until now -- hell, even derailleurs are newish. I use it now because, dammit, I have a 7400 indexing system and it *will* work for me. There is a very mild rattle once a crank rotation that must come from the rear derailleur because it's not from the front; but it's mild enough that I attribute it to default derailleur behavior and not the indexing. I find that, unladen, the Ram cruises nicely in the 74 gear and that the 70 gear feels light, proof to me of pedaling efficiency, something I don't find with every bike. With some bikes, ~75 feels overgeared. I assume this has to do with very many things, but perhaps among them are the tires and the fit/position. Funny, I tend to do most of my riding in the 16-17-18 range: 74, 70, and 66, with a drop to 60 for steeper uphills. The Ram has carried up to 47 lb in the rear (Fly) with just a bit of stress, and it handles rear loads of 35 lb without any qualms. Overall, for me, that very nice combination of unladen spriteliness and rear load capacity. I managed to bust one of the Y struts holding the single rack strut to the seatstay braze ons, so I scavenged another single strut from the Logo to replace it as shown. The other seatstay braze on can hold a bracket for a rear light. I think I'm going to convert it into a fixed gear (though that will mean Dremeling off the shifter braze-ons and the derailleur hangar). Patrick Moore (That last sentence is just to get a rise out of Steve.) -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram + Parigi Roubaix + Stan's: report
Patrick, step away from the Dremel tool. We're your friends and are here to help you. Cheers, David On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was clicking at the bottom. I'm friction-shifting 8 on my Moser and loving it, Later this month I'm going to help my daughter set up a Shimano 9 using Microshift bar ends. I went with the 9 because the only sensible wide cassette with a road crank is changing 3 cogs on a Miche to end up with 13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-29. Otherwise all the available cassettes are made for a compact cranks. Have more than 100 on my Parigi tubulars and no flats or even marks in the tread. I've been inspecting for cuts at rest stops. But I'm heading way out to the hill country this weekend (Fredericksburg-Harper) and will be riding much rougher roads - I'm bringing Stan's and Zap-a-gap On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:49:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, I've been riding the Ram/Parigi Roubaix and ya know what? No flats in a hundred miles! In other news: the Ram feels really nice -- as good as my customs. I continue to tweak the saddle-bar-height relationship -- we're looking at about 1 difference right now, and that could decrease -- but with our warm weather winds I've been riding recently 8 miles at a stretch into headwinds and it feels quite good. I use no gloves, but the very sensitive heel of my left hand is surprisingly comfortable. I may have to raise the brake bodies a wee bit on the bar's curve. I think I've got the saddle where it needs to be -- perhaps a wee bit too high, but the position is the wonderful (and on some bikes, elusive) perfect spot where you feel you are perfectly far behind the bb so that there is no awkwardness either while spinning fast or while torquing hard to gain momentum. The 7-speed Dura Ace system, in indexed mode, requires an annoying fine tune between over- and under-shifting: reminds me why I've not used indexing for 20+ years until now -- hell, even derailleurs are newish. I use it now because, dammit, I have a 7400 indexing system and it *will* work for me. There is a very mild rattle once a crank rotation that must come from the rear derailleur because it's not from the front; but it's mild enough that I attribute it to default derailleur behavior and not the indexing. I find that, unladen, the Ram cruises nicely in the 74 gear and that the 70 gear feels light, proof to me of pedaling efficiency, something I don't find with every bike. With some bikes, ~75 feels overgeared. I assume this has to do with very many things, but perhaps among them are the tires and the fit/position. Funny, I tend to do most of my riding in the 16-17-18 range: 74, 70, and 66, with a drop to 60 for steeper uphills. The Ram has carried up to 47 lb in the rear (Fly) with just a bit of stress, and it handles rear loads of 35 lb without any qualms. Overall, for me, that very nice combination of unladen spriteliness and rear load capacity. I managed to bust one of the Y struts holding the single rack strut to the seatstay braze ons, so I scavenged another single strut from the Logo to replace it as shown. The other seatstay braze on can hold a bracket for a rear light. I think I'm going to convert it into a fixed gear (though that will mean Dremeling off the shifter braze-ons and the derailleur hangar). Patrick Moore (That last sentence is just to get a rise out of Steve.) -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram + Parigi Roubaix + Stan's: report
Patrick, Can't see how you'd get it to work with the vertical dropouts. Might be easier to get a builder to braze on a pair of semi-horizontal to make chain tensioning easier. (Grin. sort of) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, step away from the Dremel tool. We're your friends and are here to help you. Cheers, David On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was clicking at the bottom. I'm friction-shifting 8 on my Moser and loving it, Later this month I'm going to help my daughter set up a Shimano 9 using Microshift bar ends. I went with the 9 because the only sensible wide cassette with a road crank is changing 3 cogs on a Miche to end up with 13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-29. Otherwise all the available cassettes are made for a compact cranks. Have more than 100 on my Parigi tubulars and no flats or even marks in the tread. I've been inspecting for cuts at rest stops. But I'm heading way out to the hill country this weekend (Fredericksburg-Harper) and will be riding much rougher roads - I'm bringing Stan's and Zap-a-gap On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:49:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, I've been riding the Ram/Parigi Roubaix and ya know what? No flats in a hundred miles! In other news: the Ram feels really nice -- as good as my customs. I continue to tweak the saddle-bar-height relationship -- we're looking at about 1 difference right now, and that could decrease -- but with our warm weather winds I've been riding recently 8 miles at a stretch into headwinds and it feels quite good. I use no gloves, but the very sensitive heel of my left hand is surprisingly comfortable. I may have to raise the brake bodies a wee bit on the bar's curve. I think I've got the saddle where it needs to be -- perhaps a wee bit too high, but the position is the wonderful (and on some bikes, elusive) perfect spot where you feel you are perfectly far behind the bb so that there is no awkwardness either while spinning fast or while torquing hard to gain momentum. The 7-speed Dura Ace system, in indexed mode, requires an annoying fine tune between over- and under-shifting: reminds me why I've not used indexing for 20+ years until now -- hell, even derailleurs are newish. I use it now because, dammit, I have a 7400 indexing system and it *will* work for me. There is a very mild rattle once a crank rotation that must come from the rear derailleur because it's not from the front; but it's mild enough that I attribute it to default derailleur behavior and not the indexing. I find that, unladen, the Ram cruises nicely in the 74 gear and that the 70 gear feels light, proof to me of pedaling efficiency, something I don't find with every bike. With some bikes, ~75 feels overgeared. I assume this has to do with very many things, but perhaps among them are the tires and the fit/position. Funny, I tend to do most of my riding in the 16-17-18 range: 74, 70, and 66, with a drop to 60 for steeper uphills. The Ram has carried up to 47 lb in the rear (Fly) with just a bit of stress, and it handles rear loads of 35 lb without any qualms. Overall, for me, that very nice combination of unladen spriteliness and rear load capacity. I managed to bust one of the Y struts holding the single rack strut to the seatstay braze ons, so I scavenged another single strut from the Logo to replace it as shown. The other seatstay braze on can hold a bracket for a rear light. I think I'm going to convert it into a fixed gear (though that will mean Dremeling off the shifter braze-ons and the derailleur hangar). Patrick Moore (That last sentence is just to get a rise out of Steve.) -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message
Re: [RBW] Weird handlebars
Didn't like the look of them, but not sure they are really worse than most trekking bars. Actually, they remind me of my old mountain bikes where I'd install a set of Moots road handles near the stem. Similar concept except Moods used a big wooden ball on the end. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: If you add an aero bar (preferably pointed straight up) that will complete the package. Oh, and wing mirrors. Actually, it does look practical, but man, I am impressed and surprised by the continual and ongoing attempt to make something better than the drop bar in its many forms. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: ** I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 2.JPG
Re: [RBW] Re: Ram + Parigi Roubaix + Stan's: report
One more for Steve: I'm going to take a hacksaw and a file to the dropouts and make them into horizontals. Patrick Moore, desperately trying to get his tongue out from his cheek in hot, dry ABQ, NM On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, Can't see how you'd get it to work with the vertical dropouts. Might be easier to get a builder to braze on a pair of semi-horizontal to make chain tensioning easier. (Grin. sort of) Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:17 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, step away from the Dremel tool. We're your friends and are here to help you. Cheers, David On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, my buddy had a 1x-crankR click last weekend and he was ready to turn around until we saw he had a pedal leaking grease. It was clicking at the bottom. I'm friction-shifting 8 on my Moser and loving it, Later this month I'm going to help my daughter set up a Shimano 9 using Microshift bar ends. I went with the 9 because the only sensible wide cassette with a road crank is changing 3 cogs on a Miche to end up with 13-14-15-17-19-21-23-25-29. Otherwise all the available cassettes are made for a compact cranks. Have more than 100 on my Parigi tubulars and no flats or even marks in the tread. I've been inspecting for cuts at rest stops. But I'm heading way out to the hill country this weekend (Fredericksburg-Harper) and will be riding much rougher roads - I'm bringing Stan's and Zap-a-gap On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:49:34 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Well, I've been riding the Ram/Parigi Roubaix and ya know what? No flats in a hundred miles! In other news: the Ram feels really nice -- as good as my customs. I continue to tweak the saddle-bar-height relationship -- we're looking at about 1 difference right now, and that could decrease -- but with our warm weather winds I've been riding recently 8 miles at a stretch into headwinds and it feels quite good. I use no gloves, but the very sensitive heel of my left hand is surprisingly comfortable. I may have to raise the brake bodies a wee bit on the bar's curve. I think I've got the saddle where it needs to be -- perhaps a wee bit too high, but the position is the wonderful (and on some bikes, elusive) perfect spot where you feel you are perfectly far behind the bb so that there is no awkwardness either while spinning fast or while torquing hard to gain momentum. The 7-speed Dura Ace system, in indexed mode, requires an annoying fine tune between over- and under-shifting: reminds me why I've not used indexing for 20+ years until now -- hell, even derailleurs are newish. I use it now because, dammit, I have a 7400 indexing system and it *will* work for me. There is a very mild rattle once a crank rotation that must come from the rear derailleur because it's not from the front; but it's mild enough that I attribute it to default derailleur behavior and not the indexing. I find that, unladen, the Ram cruises nicely in the 74 gear and that the 70 gear feels light, proof to me of pedaling efficiency, something I don't find with every bike. With some bikes, ~75 feels overgeared. I assume this has to do with very many things, but perhaps among them are the tires and the fit/position. Funny, I tend to do most of my riding in the 16-17-18 range: 74, 70, and 66, with a drop to 60 for steeper uphills. The Ram has carried up to 47 lb in the rear (Fly) with just a bit of stress, and it handles rear loads of 35 lb without any qualms. Overall, for me, that very nice combination of unladen spriteliness and rear load capacity. I managed to bust one of the Y struts holding the single rack strut to the seatstay braze ons, so I scavenged another single strut from the Logo to replace it as shown. The other seatstay braze on can hold a bracket for a rear light. I think I'm going to convert it into a fixed gear (though that will mean Dremeling off the shifter braze-ons and the derailleur hangar). Patrick Moore (That last sentence is just to get a rise out of Steve.) -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function in the world. Not perfect for the cow missing its skin. (in any event, Berthoud are hands down better leather saddles than current Brooks) *This *thing is *ugly.* * * I like the looks. To each their own I guess. On Friday, June 7, 2013 11:40:58 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Ok, I guess I'm the one that's going to have to break the news. Brooks leather saddles are one of the few perfect products in looks and function in the world. *This *thing is *ugly.* Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, June 7, 2013 8:50:22 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote: Oh man Brooks went thru all that to make a wonderful new idea in a saddle ... and they persist in using short rails ! Say it ain't so !!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Weird handlebars
Those are officially weird bars. My buddy has Salsa woodchippers on his tandem, and loves them. For his wife in the rear, he has Modolo dumbos - and she gets her own mirror and bell, which I think she rings at him. But the Cannondale tandem was actually for his very tall previous wife and, while she rides the Cannondale, it's way too big for his very short wife. He bought a Santana that fits her, and is planning to swap out the cockpits and sell the Cannondale. Speaking of actual tire sizes, the Mchelin 28s he bought for the Santana measure 36. On Friday, June 7, 2013 7:50:28 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Didn't like the look of them, but not sure they are really worse than most trekking bars. Actually, they remind me of my old mountain bikes where I'd install a set of Moots road handles near the stem. Similar concept except Moods used a big wooden ball on the end. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 6:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If you add an aero bar (preferably pointed straight up) that will complete the package. Oh, and wing mirrors. Actually, it does look practical, but man, I am impressed and surprised by the continual and ongoing attempt to make something better than the drop bar in its many forms. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: ** I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Weird handlebars
I actually think these look like pretty useful bars. I've made something similar with flipped On One Marys with bar ends mounted at the forward curves. Useful and comfortable. I'm happy to see that bar makers are taking advantage of removable face plate stems. These, Jones bars, H bars, etc... all couldn't have been done before that little bit of technology. Eric Dublin, OH On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: ** I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. 2.JPG
[RBW] FS~56 Sam Hillborne, single top tube. Blue w/cream head tube
I forgot to add, included is the headset, bottom bracket and the unused seatpost, as suplied by Rivendell. - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS 56 Sam Hillborne. Single TT, blue with cream head tube
Hi All, For sale is a 56 Sam Hillborne frame set. It's the single top tube frame special they had on the site a month or two ago. I bought it directly from Rivendell. It's in outstanding condition, only the drop outs and fork ends show evidence of the build up. There is a very faint paint scratch at the top of the seat lug, which came to me that way from Rivendell. Sale includes headset, bottom bracket and unused seat post as supplied by Rivendell. Please see the photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/sets/72157633993806845/ Asking 900.00 plus actual shipping. Please reply off list. Thanks, - Frank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?
Traditionally, bars were wrapped under the brake levers. You mount the brake levers on the bare bars to get the location correct. Then you take the levers off the clamps, and wrap the bars over the clamps. Attach the brake levers again, and done. It's neat and clean, and doesn't have the bunched-up feel that you get when you criss-cross the cork tape around the brake levers. The cloth tape is strong enough that it won't be cut when you tighten the brake levers against it. (It probably wouldn't work with cork tape.) If you plan to shellac, also do this before you attach the brake levers, so you don't get shellac all over the hoods. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?
One of the Rivendell readers has a picture spread showing how to do it this way. I think somewhere between Reader 0 -20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
I've had a chance to take about a 10 mile ride today after work which included a bit of climbing and, of course, some descents to go along with the climbs. The first couple of miles I have to admit I stopped more than started while I tweaked the angle of the saddle. Okay, I had to stop three times to get it right but I do believe it's good now. This isn't really any different than any of the leather Brooks I own - always a bit finicky at first then locked in. Since this was an urban ride on roads that vary from freshly paved to badly in need of help I was able to get a pretty good feel for the saddle in a variety of conditions. Long distance will have to wait till the actual weekend though. My first impression on a real ride was that the saddle didn't need any breaking in. Admittedly I'm a big guy and have never had to spend a whole lot of time breaking in a leather Brooks. In fact my Select, stiffest of the bunch, felt pretty good from the outset and while it has adapted a bit since November when it was new, I've never felt uncomfortable. That being said, the C-17 has been comfortable from the get go as well (angle not withstanding). I can feel some give in it when going over bumps (that I don't see - usually I use my legs as shocks on the ones I do). It doesn't feel like it's giving to much and needs to be tightened, just a little cushioning. I'm not sure how much lighter folks might fare but I suspect it's all good. In fact, once I'd adjusted the angle, the biggest thing I noticed about the saddle is that I didn't actually notice it. Since all my bikes use one B-17 or another I'm pretty used to having more or less the same experience on all my bikes - thus I really only notice anything when something is 'off.' The ride was fun and I'm looking forward to giving it a longer workout this weekend. Did it stick to your clothes like you thought it would? Umm..sort of and sort of not. The top of the saddle, the part that is partially cloth, is fine. It doesn't stick or drag on my clothes. I tend to wear MUSA knickers, shorts of the same sorts of materials, and Columbia convertible pants (wear 'em long to work and shorts on the way home). I can't say how jeans or other actual natural material might do, but the man made fibers I wear don't have an issue with the top of the saddle. But...and this has only happened twice in a bunch of dismounts, the bottom edge of the saddle is more or less exposed rubber. When I've swung my leg up to clear the saddle and dismount I have had it snag a bit on the fabric. The first time it happened I stopped, sat back down, and tried again. The second time I just twisted a bit and my leg came free. As I dismount when stopped I don't think there'll be a problem. If, however, you are one of those who dismounts while coasting it's something to think about. I expect this will stop as the rubber gets rubbed a bit more. And, honestly, this could easily happen on the rougher bit of leather on the bottom edge of a new Brooks leather saddle - it's not like I haven't gotten myself caught on the nose once or twice (or thrice...). Still it felt like cloth catching on rubber. I also had another concern this morning. Normally I leave my helmet out to dry out on my lanai but for some reason last night I slung the helmet straps over the nose of the saddle. Remember, this saddle is 'natural.' Well this morning I discovered an ugly stap mark underneath the wear the helmet strap had been. Shoots. I didn't realize my strap was that sweaty. I figured I'd be careful in the future and thought about how I'd clean this up. I locked the bike up at work (we have a combo locked cage with racks) and did my eight hours. When I came out the mark was gone. Clearly it was just moisture. I guess this makes sense. As I recall from prior days plastic saddles that aren't at all absorbent just get slick and icky when they get wet (from rain or more likely, sweat). Leather, of course, does absorb a bit. Well apparently so does the fabric on the saddle. What this means in the long run I don't know, but it dried out and no mark was left. Given how folks sweat this might, on the natural saddle, lead to moisture marks one might not wish to explain. :-) In any case, after a short 10 mile ride I'm happy with the saddle. Now, as for it's looks. I actually like the thing. No, it's not leather, but it's not a plastic bit of awfulness either. It looks like a quality saddle. Do I like the looks more than my leather saddles...not, not really, but it's not, at least to my mind, ugly. In fact it matches my Acorn bags on the Hunq fairly well so it doesn't look out of place at all. That's it for now. I'll have a long ride this weekend (hopefully) and will report back again on how I feel after at least a couple of dozen miles. Aloha, Bob On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the pics. I see the contours now. So, the saddle looks like it is made out of metal, rubber,
[RBW] Re: Your method of going around brake levers with cloth bar tape?
Excellent news!! Thank you guys so much. It made sense in my mind. I'll dig through my readers for grins. Not sure if I have em that far back but I bet I'll read something entertaining I forgot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brooks Cambium C-17 First Look
I agree the saddle has racy lines - I think it looks good, though the material composition takes some getting used to. On Thursday, June 6, 2013 9:13:12 PM UTC-5, Statrixbob wrote: I was chosen as one of the first 100 folks to receive a Brooks Cambium C-17 saddle. Mine just arrived today and while I haven't yet mounted it on a bike (probably my daily ride, the Hunq), I did take some pictures to prove it happened. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
The Sierra option means either a drive or a hot slog across the valley. OTH, once there, the altitude means cooler temps. Mike is correct about the temps around Paso Robles / Templeton / Atascadero area being hot. There is a serious range of hills east of SLO that makes that valley a lot warmer than the coast. San Simeon / Cayucos / Moro Bay can be considerably cooler. As Manny pointed out, the date is the key, then we worry about the destination. And once I'm north of LA, I'll spend longer than a weekend. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 12:44:06 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I like the idea of access by train or bike. People both from the Bay Area and from the LA area can ride to SLO, but riding through the Central Valley in July is not at all appealing. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.com javascript: wrote: Hugh, The road from Shaver to Huntington has a lot more traffic. The best roads are up to Kaiser Pass and then to either Edison lake or Florence lake. Even though it's only ~27 miles one way to each, there is a lot of climbing and the downhills are slow due to the narrow winding roads. I don't know if the consensus is day rides from a base camp or an overnight to one of the lakes? A round-trip to one of the lakes would be like 50+ miles and 5000+' of climbing. Obviously the s24o would be 1/2 of that. There is a nice cafe and store at Edison near the campground and showers. There is also a day 3 option to go around Kaiser Peak and stay at a more primitive campsite off of Stump springs rd. This is one of the rare places you can ride deep into the Sierras on your bike but you have to work for it. SLO would be a lot gentler riding and access by train. also that weekend works good for me. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Staff bikes really so?
I think when they started the BOM thing they said they just lumped them in with the staff bikes for simplicity. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 3:33:57 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: Bike of the Month and staff bike are not the same thing. Mark's San Marcos BOM is something he put together to sell. His staff bikes are ones he owns/rides. Joe I want that BOM, must sell more bikes first Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:26:59 PM UTC-7, Ginz wrote: I believe those are chef specials but, in the past, they have posted an album of real staff bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Some of my best riding buds ride CF. Some of them chuckle at my lugged steel bike. The coffee shop doesn't care what we ride, and we talk about travels, current events, books movies. No one cares seriously what material the other's bike is made from. It's just a bike. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:26:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Great photo! If only it read Rivendell instead of Bridgestone! On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... But are you *really* familiar with Grant P's feelings towards carbon bikes: http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html Good Luck! Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New to me Atlantis
Glad you're enjoying your new ride. One of the fun things about the Atlantis is going to the gallery seeing all the variations. Drop bars, upright bars, racked 2 the max; naked; big tires, skinny tires; you name it, people have done it. I'll wager the Atlantis has been configured in more different ways than any other Rivendell model.just because it's possible. Loving mine for over 10 years now. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:18:27 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Congrats on your new bike! Looks like fun riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Weird handlebars
To me, they only look weird because it's a new idea. Considering the number of upright bar users, this is the same thing with the addition of some forward extensions. I have Origin 8 spacebars on my MTB / utility bike. While fine for most things, I do find myself wanting something more forward on long climbs. The bars feel like they are underneath me and something forward would be more natural. Seems an intriguing idea. Does anyone make custom handlebars, i.e., bend to your clever idea? dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:07:14 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote: I know there are some serious fans of upright bars here. Saw today's VO blog entry and thought you might be interested in this weird prototype they're currently working on: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/06/new-handlebars-keeping-it-weird.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
food for thought http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/ ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: food for thought http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/ -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Guys and Their Carbon Toys
Yep. I don't bash anyone's bike materiel nor their clothing. I had a carbon bike and I loved it and I rode with lycra and well I felt like a dweeb also felt obligated to go fast.That got old quick. I got tired of returning a super duper light $150 saddle cause the plastic shell broke two times, that carbon bike developed hairline cracks at the bottom bracket Cervelo replaced it. I sold it to finance my AHH. Best maneuver I've ever made. I just ran an errand on my Hilsen tonight basket up front baggins type handlebar bag, rear lights and a Cygolite just two miles RT total enjoyment, wouldn't have done that on my carbon. To each their own whatever makes you happy. I think it's okay to discuss the merits of different paradigms as long as we don't go all Mensa about it. Oh yeah and I have some lonely lycra kits hanging in my closet if anyone on this list secretly wears the stuff you're welcome to em :-) Best, Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:52 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Some of my best riding buds ride CF. Some of them chuckle at my lugged steel bike. The coffee shop doesn't care what we ride, and we talk about travels, current events, books movies. No one cares seriously what material the other's bike is made from. It's just a bike. dougP On Friday, June 7, 2013 2:26:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Great photo! If only it read Rivendell instead of Bridgestone! On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Brewster Fong bfd...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, June 7, 2013 6:00:58 AM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Being familiar with Grant P.'s feelings carbon bicycles, and this group's strong preference for steel and in particular, lugged steel bikes; it seems a bit unrealistic to request that this group not engage in anti-carbon discussion. I would imagine it's akin to going to a group with a fondness for traditional film camera and ask that they not dis digital photography. Just sayin'... But are you *really* familiar with Grant P's feelings towards carbon bikes: http://sheldonbrown.com/lasvegas/2005/pages/13.html Good Luck! Shaun On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more comfortable - even without gel diapers On Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:42:20 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote: On Thursday, June 6, 2013 8:17:24 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote: please oh please oh please let's not let this develop into an anti- carbon discussion. Lets just let everyone ride whatever kind of bike it is they want to ride and be happy that they are out there riding. We should be celebrating our sameness (bikes) and not fighting over our differences (steel vs cf, tire width, position, etc.). Then On Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:39:12 PM UTC-5, pb wrote: But if you apply that policy, how do you know -- and prove the fact to others -- that you are smarter, righter, better, and part of a superior group of people? While I know that this is tongue-in-cheek, I humbly offer that I am not smarter, righter, and better and that we are not a superior group of people—but rather that I am part of a group of people who are bound by love for things Riv, and especially by love for Rivendell bicycles. We are bound by love and that is our sameness. okay, now I'll step down from my tiny tippy soapbox ;0) -RCW -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/XwbNFSO_r7Q/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
I agree with Anne my thoughts exactly. I'll drive to the Sierra's perhaps some carpooling can happen? Mike, you obviously know this area and I don't know the area at all so I'll need to map it a bit in the near future. Sort of preoccupied and full in on next week's tour down the coast. Hugh Sunland, Ca On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: food for thought http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/ -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/hd-ZifeYmYE/unsubscribe?hl=en-US. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: So.Cal Vs Nor.Cal Rumble ?
the inland routes are too hot for summer. The See Cyn route is close to the ocean and would be fine. We would need to come up with another ride that goes north and is along the coast during mid day and afternoon. Maybe Stagecoach rd to Tv Tower rd to the coast and back thru Morro Bay. ~mike On Friday, June 7, 2013 10:22:26 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: Better for fall/winter/early spring than for high summer. On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:38 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comjavascript: wrote: food for thought http://pathlesspedaled.com/2013/01/california-dreaming-undiscovered-cycling-playground/ -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
