Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
Brian, Did use use a bit of chain ring for your front light mount? Neat. Wonderful pictures. Take care, Curtis On Monday, February 3, 2014, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Mike - I have a 54 Hunq and a 59 AHH (similar to the Sam). I'm 5'11 and 160 lbs for reference. I would definitely heed others advice here, and also say that both bikes would likely be great. I find the two are definitely different in feel, with the Hunq being stiffer, and only slightly heavier. They both feel great, and with the same wheelset are very close with the difference to me just in weight and stiffness. I like a little flex and lightness, so... If it were me knowing what I know now, I would start with a Hillborne (or AHH) as it will do 99% of what you want. Probably 100% - they are both up for touring. I do a mix of commuting, mountain riding, and randonneuring. The AHH excels at all of these, and the Hunq excels at the mountain, and would be 2nd to the AHH on the other two unless you carry 20 lbs on your commute. I prefer a strong minimal bike for the application, and also having a couple bikes that are set up for a specific application is a luxury I choose to pay for. Here are some stories and pics of both bikes with different setups if you want to do some casual reading :) http://www.stonehog.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets Good luck, and enjoy whatever comes! Rivs are great bikes!! Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks, MKS, Nitto, Sackville, Tires
Remaining stuff, prices reduced. $15 MKS Touring/XC Pedals $25 Hold Fast Foot Straps (brown) $20 Nitto Dirt Drop Stem 10cm 26.0 - sanded down to 22.0mm. $50 Nitto Moustache Bar $75 Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road (skinwall) Tires 700c x 43mm (x2) - low miles, plenty of knob left. $75 Grand Bois Cyprès (standard) 650b x 32 mm (x2) - barely ridden, basically new. $75 Soma C-Line Tires (black) 700c x 38mm (x2) - low milage, lots of life still. $40 Sackville SaddleSack XSmall (olive) $80 Sackville TrunkSack Small (olive) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
Brian, Makes perfect sense. In a side by side comparison, I'm sure the Hunqa would be slower than the AHH and mores the Rodeo. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, February 3, 2014 11:08:05 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Patrick - the Hunq is a great bike, no doubt, but I definitely feel that it is slightly slower for me than my AHH. The paint makes it look fast, and having the thought of the Mammoth makes me feel faster. I finally eyeball measured this very inaccurately on my nightly commute home over the past year or so. Many times, I thought I was faster on the Hunqa, but the data don't lie! It was consistently slightly slower. Like 1-3 minutes out of a 55 minute ride - damn - that's HUGE!!! ;) It was likely the beer or the legs that made me thunk it was faster... Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Sunday, February 2, 2014 3:03:13 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: You've made a sale. Only problem, buyer has no cash. But next bike, if next bike there be, has the Hunq on the top of the very short list. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Robert Barr rcb...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick - I think the Hunq is very light feeling and agile. I was amazed when I first pulled mine out the box, my analogy will seem odd - but it looked like a strung bow. A friend that regularly rides a Quickbeam was amazed by the feel and ride of the bike. I am a commuter, and I agonized over whether to get an Atlantis, a Bomba, a Hunqa, or a Sam. For where I ride I think the Hunqa was the best choice for me - but I don't think there was a wrong choice. Variations on a theme if you will. As Deacon Patrick wrote, the folks at Riv are a marvel at guiding one to a good choice. Bob (Indianapolis) On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 3:44 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting. Is this the impression others have of the two bikes? The consensus seems to be that the Hunq is exceptionally light feeling and agile for a bike that takes 60 mm tires. On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Jim jfxdi...@gmail.com wrote: In the past I test rode an Atlantis but the Atlantis did not feel as lively and agile as the Hun -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Albuquerque, NM, USA Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cotton and Wool Winter Army Gear
Ian: I picked up my sweater and snow smock on eBay. There may be several sellers of these, but here are 2 links I found (with photos): http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Swedish-Army-100-Wool-Sweater-Choice-of-Sizes-Military-Surplus-SL-2522-/281259383496?pt=US_CSA_MC_Sweatersvar=hash=item417c5d9ac8 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Swedish-Army-original-Vintage-Snow-Camo-Jacket-1960s-street-fashion-skiing-/261383466424?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3cdbab2db8 Also do a Google search on Swedish Snow Smock and you should find several sites featuring bushcrafters/hunters who have modified (sewn, dyed, etc.) snow smocks for their own purpose... lots you can do with these... pretty cool if you ask me, including just using them as-is. Very functional. Peace, BB On Monday, February 3, 2014 10:46:07 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: Where can one buy these items? The wool zipper sweater sounds great. If you're inclined to post photos...would be most interested. Ian A/Canada On Sunday, February 2, 2014 8:50:25 AM UTC-7, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I got a little creative this year with my winter gear, trading synthetic (lycra, fleece and Gore Tex) for some traditional wool and cotton Army gear, and boy am I glad I did. We've had some fabulous winter conditions for snowshoeing and mountain biking here in NJ and I got to put my new gear to the test. For the past week the snow has been too deep and powdery (a rarity for NJ), which is great for showshoeing, and thanks to steady foot traffic the trails have become semi-packed, adequate for 2.3 in knobbies to climb and descend even the steep trails... I've recently acquired 2 pieces of Swedish Army surplus gear; a 100% wool zipper sweater with extra long sleeves (with thumb holes), and a heavy cotton snow smock, both awesome and inexpensive. For warmth on yesterday's ride I wore 2 layers of wool (a thin Merino base layer and the Swedish sweater). For my outer shell I wore the snow smock. Typically I had been used to shedding layers at the top of a major climb (from over-heating)... With this wool-cotton setup the heat buildup was more gradual, and seemed to dissipate MUCH faster (due to the high breathability of the fabric). I posted a few weeks ago that I had also picked up a wool Boreal shirt (made from wool army blankets), which is SO ridiculously warm I left that at home. But for super cold days the wool Boreal and the cotton snow smock make an outstanding combo for active wear where you expect to be perspiring. And although it's not Army surplus, I added a Ventile cotton jacket (which WAS developed by the British military) as my everyday winter jacket that I wear to the office.. it just FEELS amazing. I do get some odd looks and smiles from people, *(especially my brother, who refers to me as Luke Skywalker)* when I'm wearing the snow smock, I REALLY love this gear, and am now on the lookout for other similar gear from military establishments around the world... *(hey, this stuff is field-tested, right?)* Anyone else a fan of *(peacetime use)* of army gear?? Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Looking for my first Rivendell
Sure did. Has worked perfectly for thousands of miles! :) Brian On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 4:32:38 AM UTC-8, Curtis wrote: Brian, Did use use a bit of chain ring for your front light mount? Neat. Wonderful pictures. Take care, Curtis On Monday, February 3, 2014, stonehog ston...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Mike - I have a 54 Hunq and a 59 AHH (similar to the Sam). I'm 5'11 and 160 lbs for reference. I would definitely heed others advice here, and also say that both bikes would likely be great. I find the two are definitely different in feel, with the Hunq being stiffer, and only slightly heavier. They both feel great, and with the same wheelset are very close with the difference to me just in weight and stiffness. I like a little flex and lightness, so... If it were me knowing what I know now, I would start with a Hillborne (or AHH) as it will do 99% of what you want. Probably 100% - they are both up for touring. I do a mix of commuting, mountain riding, and randonneuring. The AHH excels at all of these, and the Hunq excels at the mountain, and would be 2nd to the AHH on the other two unless you carry 20 lbs on your commute. I prefer a strong minimal bike for the application, and also having a couple bikes that are set up for a specific application is a luxury I choose to pay for. Here are some stories and pics of both bikes with different setups if you want to do some casual reading :) http://www.stonehog.com http://www.flickr.com/photos/stonehog/sets Good luck, and enjoy whatever comes! Rivs are great bikes!! Brian Hanson Seattle, WA On Friday, January 31, 2014 10:31:32 AM UTC-8, Mike K. wrote: Hi everyone, I've been admiring Rivendell's website and the various Flickr pages associated with it for a few years now. This year looks like I should finally be able to buy one. I have a few bikes now that I have set up as near a Rivendell as I can, but they're just not what I'm looking for (probably all psychological, but still). I'm torn between the Sam Hillborne and the Hunqapillar. I don't do any touring now, but that's largely due to not having a bike to do it. I have plenty of friends who go bike camping now that I'm in Texas, and am looking forward to it this summer. Upwards of 30 miles each way, fully loaded with camping gear, food, etc. for a few days' trip. Mostly, though, I am a commuter. About 4 miles each way. I have a commuter now, a 1984 Cannondale 56cm ST300 frame with an SR Apex 30/44/48 Triple front and a 12-32 8-speed Cassette in the back, 35mm Bontrager Commuter tires with Longboard fenders, Nitto Mustache bars with bar ends and a Nitto Technomic Stem, and a Daija Rear Rack I bought from VO. It's a good bike, but just a tad small and I'm not comfortable loading even for the camping trips. I would be all-in for the Hunqa, except I'm concerned about it being a bear to just ride around with a light load or unloaded if I was heading out for a day ride around town, which points me to the Sam. Plus the Sam is a good bit cheaper these days, but I would move a good deal of components from the Cannondale to the new frame. Anyway, sorry for the word vomit. My point: anyone have experience with these two as far as handling? I'd love a Hunqa. I think it's a real beauty, diaga-tube and all. I'm 6' even with longish legs. Around an 89 PBH, so I'd be looking at a 58cm in either bike, 2tt on the Sam, diaga-tube on the Hunqa. I'm just afraid it's too beefy for just riding around. Any help is much appreciated. Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS/FT--White Industries ENO crankset 175 mm with 2 44 tooth rings
My single speed days are over. Time to let these go. White Industries ENO crankset 175 mm. Two 44 tooth rings. One has about 500 km on it, they other more but lots of life still in it. Price for all $125 plus shipping. Which is around $20-25. Those are Canadian dollars which means you pay about $135.00 American dollars. Crank arms only $100 plus shipping (Canadian dollars). Fair to good condition with some scratches, Look at the photos herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/sets/72157635205572514/. Replacement cost would be $330. For an even better deal, buy and ship to me Paul Thumbies, black 22.2 for Shimano shifters and we will call it even. It would cost you less than $100. Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
@ Brian: So what was the issue with your knee on that 300k? I hope it is all better now. Nice bikes. The only thing I don't like about front bike bags is that they hide the nice headtube paint and lugs from view. But I guess the great function is worth it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
Anyone know the diffs between the tube wall thicknesses and weight of these bikes.? I was reading a BQ blog post comment that mentioned the Homer and Roadeo and that BQ was interested in testing the Roadeo because it looked like a light performance designed bike, with a mention of tubes. It was an old post from 2011. Wonder if they ever tested it. I am guessing they were probably interested in the planeing possibilities, maybe suggesting that thinner tubes make plane-ing possible, or responsiveness possible. I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?
Update (with a loss of Riv content): Colorado is actually getting snow this year, after years of snow drought (by our standards, anyway). We're measuring now in feet again. YES! This is a wondrous thing, but wreaks havoc on my winter bikepacking plans. After testing it out with my Hunqapillar far less loaded than it would be for camping, pushing a bike uphill through 22 of snow is not happening. So, how to carry gear without weight above my waist? SkiPulk! I'm hoping it works, and there's only one way to find out. Grin. Here is my planned deep winter backcountry steed: http://skipulk.com With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:58:49 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here's a great picture of how well fatbikes float. Grin. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33954883@N08/6502477443/in/photolist-aUAU14-dJCYu4-bXpzQj-bXpznW-91H3LH-8GpMAG-9rQW2p-9rQW2i-9rQW2t-9ddjcg-eUgw2s-93KnUb-9zMD6b-9myP2a-9myM9i-a67ovk-9zMCd3-8GmBqF-aupt2n-ctPFrq-9dgrCQ-9cxD2i-bjBgNz-cYWXYf-b9HmvX-dMAqwf-dMuRT6-dMAqkW-dMAquS-dMAqr1-dNYV7R-dP5wFN-jwUGBB-dGWkeM-arywAL-7zrZZt-dpxL6a-dpxLar-i3Qtq2-7zvJMh-7zvHAW-dkqd8A-dkqcP5-dkqcUm-9cxEJp-9cAN3E-98geDV-98gewP-98gepF-98jo9b-dMAqtA With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:05:28 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm not familiar with Motobecane, but wherever this marketing came from I'm calling BS: Float over three feet of soft powder snow A toboggan with a single person on it doesn't do that unless it is packed, and then it doesn't matter how deep it is. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:00:25 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote: The fat bikes don't have to be expensive. I'm trying so very hard not to purchase one of these... http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/fat-bikes/fantom-fat-bikes_fb4comp_xiv.htm only $695 shipped On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: And here's another site with links for winter cycling including maintenance: http://greenactioncentre.ca/2012/cycling-through-winter/ In Winnipeg, a lot of the couriers go fixed or single-speed, but we're pretty flat in Winnipeg so the less is more philosophy works well here; obviously this doesn't apply to your situation. Those fat bikes seem like they'd be great for bikepacking, but they sure aren't inexpensive, and I realize you want to use your Hunqapillar. I suspect some snowshoes that you could pack would be useful, too if the snow's deep, because I suspect you'll have to hike a lot of sections. Regards On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:21:38 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Jim. Yes, it is quite a temperature range -- bigger than summer's range. Yesterday, we reached 45 here, and this morning was -5˚F, so that is a 50 degree swing in 18 hours. I've ridden my bike for short rides down to -15˚F. So I'm reasonably comfortable that my setup is OK as is. I didn't see anything super glaring in the list you provided. Yes, miles of deep snow will be an adventure. I'm curious to see how that goes. With my vertigo, I can't carry any weight above my waist, so my wheeled pack-mammoth is my beast of burden. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:01:01 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Sorry, forgot the link: http://www.allweathersports. com/isport/ibiketips.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
I THINK I've seen the tubing thickness for the AHH but I don't remember the exact numbers. I do remember that I was surprised because it was thinner tubing than I expected but I do think the AHH stats are out there. I don't recall seeing the Roadeo numbers. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:11:38 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Anyone know the diffs between the tube wall thicknesses and weight of these bikes.? I was reading a BQ blog post comment that mentioned the Homer and Roadeo and that BQ was interested in testing the Roadeo because it looked like a light performance designed bike, with a mention of tubes. It was an old post from 2011. Wonder if they ever tested it. I am guessing they were probably interested in the planeing possibilities, maybe suggesting that thinner tubes make plane-ing possible, or responsiveness possible. I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wool, Ventile, and Quicksnow Non-Intentional Experiment
A mighty fine adventure write-up! Thanks, -JimD On Feb 3, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: I think this qualifies as Riv content given the nature of this winter for many of us in the cold climes, so indulge me for a moment This weekend, since it's too crappy to ride bikes, I went to my college dorm-mates (circa 1977-78) reunion on a small lake in northern Wisconsin. Cold temps (below zero as we drank morning coffee) and 2-3 feet of wet snow on the ground. Five of us headed out with our snowshoes onto the lake in the morning just as ice-fishermen were also heading out in their heavy 4-wheel drive pickup. I was attired in fantastic gear for snowshoeing: vintage buffalo plaid thick wool hunting pants, a down sweater with a wind-proof Empire Canvas cotton anorak over it, Empire boots, and leather chopper mitts. Very quickly, though, the truck got into trouble with 'snow-ice/lake slush and as we watched it, we realized the same thing was happening to us. We came to call this deep and foot-thick layer of slush 'quicksnow', because it acted a lot like quicksand. This slush can form when there's a really heavy snow cover on a lake and it depresses the ice and water seeps over the top or through ice fishing holes. Anyway, we see the truck spinning up green slush, look down at our feet and see that we too are sinking into about a foot of wet wet slush, and elect to *urgently* move to the shore, which was about 50-75 feet away. (see attached photo of the truck's standing-water tracks--water still standing 8 hours after this story happened!) Thinking the pier that someone hadn't taken out for the winter would do the trick, my friend Kris and I made a b-line toward it. But the pier was too high and covered with, again, over 2 feet of snow, and it became clear in a hurry that the pier was not our salvation; we're now about 20 feet from the shore. I look down and the decks of my snowshoes are covered in very watery slush that is instant-freezing to their decks and bindings. I attempt to move my literally freezing feet and fall over onto my side. Immediately and with dread, I feel ice water seeping in at my wrist and elbow. I now have a sense of panic because I am wearing a down sweater with a cotton anorak over it and my boots also have cotton tops. I can see that my wool hunting pants are in the water, but I don't feel it seeping through. I knew if I tried to right myself I would wallow more in this icy water and become perhaps really soaked. I calmly yet urgently said to my friend Kris, I need help getting up. She swiftly pulled me up and I got myself to a sappling on the shore. All of us made it out to the shore/road and back to the cabin with no hypothermia. I've attached before and end-of-the-day photos with both fetching ensembles. Okay, here's the Riv point: I wore my heavy wool pants, wool lined choppers, and wool-lined Empire canvas boots for the entire rest of the day, which was spent outdoors. I traded out my upper torso garments for a ski sweater and a Filson vest. Wool, the miracle fabric. Keeping people warm and alive for 10,000 years. My question: how would the Riv Rain Jacket have done? Would it have kept my down sweater dry in this situation? Any ventile-wearers (meaning at least you, Deacon Patrick) with any kind of similar experience? -Riv Chica Warrior of the Quicksnow! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Image 5.jpgImage 20.jpgImage 11.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
I did a little searching. I'm pretty sure I've seen the AHH tubing thicknesses in print but I don't remember exactly what they were. I'm thinking .7-.5-.7 or in that ball park. I found a thread on another forum where a poster quotes Grant as specifying the Roadeo having .65-.45-.65 tubing. I found a Riv article stating the Atlantis is .9-.6.-.9. Riv's website states the Sam Hillborne is in between the Atlantis AHH in tubing thickness so if Atlantis is 9-6-9 Roadeo is 6-4-6, that leaves the Hillborne at 8-5-8 the AHH at 7-4-7 or roughly where I was thinking it was. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:11:38 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Anyone know the diffs between the tube wall thicknesses and weight of these bikes.? I was reading a BQ blog post comment that mentioned the Homer and Roadeo and that BQ was interested in testing the Roadeo because it looked like a light performance designed bike, with a mention of tubes. It was an old post from 2011. Wonder if they ever tested it. I am guessing they were probably interested in the planeing possibilities, maybe suggesting that thinner tubes make plane-ing possible, or responsiveness possible. I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
The AHH tubing specs are listed in a Blug entry, I think a couple of years ago. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Lampe 2 Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 11:12 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight I did a little searching. I'm pretty sure I've seen the AHH tubing thicknesses in print but I don't remember exactly what they were. I'm thinking .7-.5-.7 or in that ball park. I found a thread on another forum where a poster quotes Grant as specifying the Roadeo having .65-.45-.65 tubing. I found a Riv article stating the Atlantis is .9-.6.-.9. Riv's website states the Sam Hillborne is in between the Atlantis AHH in tubing thickness so if Atlantis is 9-6-9 Roadeo is 6-4-6, that leaves the Hillborne at 8-5-8 the AHH at 7-4-7 or roughly where I was thinking it was. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:11:38 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Anyone know the diffs between the tube wall thicknesses and weight of these bikes.? I was reading a BQ blog post comment that mentioned the Homer and Roadeo and that BQ was interested in testing the Roadeo because it looked like a light performance designed bike, with a mention of tubes. It was an old post from 2011. Wonder if they ever tested it. I am guessing they were probably interested in the planeing possibilities, maybe suggesting that thinner tubes make plane-ing possible, or responsiveness possible. I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
The Hilsens are 8/5/8 OS tubing as are the Roadeos in larger sizes. The smaller Roadeo's are 7/4/7 OS. If I recall correctly. Much stiffer than anything Jan likes. ~mike On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 7:11:38 AM UTC-8, Michael wrote: Anyone know the diffs between the tube wall thicknesses and weight of these bikes.? I was reading a BQ blog post comment that mentioned the Homer and Roadeo and that BQ was interested in testing the Roadeo because it looked like a light performance designed bike, with a mention of tubes. It was an old post from 2011. Wonder if they ever tested it. I am guessing they were probably interested in the planeing possibilities, maybe suggesting that thinner tubes make plane-ing possible, or responsiveness possible. I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for my first Rivendell
I read yesterday that Alex Moulton rode 8 to 9 miles a day into his 90s. If I can match that, then when my Sam and Saluki wear out there's still time for another Riv purchase. Life gets shortened by not riding a bike. On Sunday, February 2, 2014 10:15:59 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote: On the one hand, I don't want to beat it up unnecessarily through the winter grit, but on the other hand, life's too short not to ride the good bike. Couldn't agree more Shoji! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
or maybe .1 mm. On other models differences have involved how many butts and if heat treated or not, or taper details to yield the desired end results. On 2/4/2014 9:11 AM, Michael wrote: I am guessing that if there is a diff between the two bikes, it is a mm at whatever thicknesses. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddle Tattoos and Hot Chocolate!
Cow stoppage. Uhhh... that ain't a cow! On Monday, January 27, 2014 1:24:33 AM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Enjoy the short rides. With the stresses of work and school. It's important to remember to make time for yourself. Long ride, short rides, mixed terrain or road. all of that matters is that you have the simple things. Good views, great friends, and good cheese. Hot chocolate works well too. Pictures Proved that unedited photos doesn't mean I'm trying to be artsy I just don't have a computer to edit photos: http://flic.kr/ps/Chtka Manny Hot Chocolate is the jam Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house. This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn't that bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine's blog post: The Grand Bois Hetre 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It's probably a combination of the width - less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber - and perhaps the tread profile. If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats? --Eric Norris Email: campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs. Homer tube thickness and weight
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:52:07 AM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: The Hilsens are 8/5/8 OS tubing as are the Roadeos in larger sizes. The smaller Roadeo's are 7/4/7 OS. If I recall correctly. Much stiffer than anything Jan likes. Not to split hairs too finely, but the Roadeo's are .65/.45/65. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
None. 2 years and Philly streets are nothing to sneeze at. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
1 flat on my first 20 mile ride (metal wire), but none since ~1000 mi. Toshi in Oakland (flat in Orinda), CA On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:23 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: None. 2 years and Philly streets are nothing to sneeze at. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
I have Lierres (38mm, my Riv Road won't fit Hetres) and had 1 flat in almost 1000 miles so far. I swapped the tube and then patched the flat one. I never did find what caused it; it left a small, single hole. I have about 500 miles on a set of Cerf Blues and had no flats so far. Tim On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote: 1 flat on my first 20 mile ride (metal wire), but none since ~1000 mi. Toshi in Oakland (flat in Orinda), CA On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:23 AM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote: None. 2 years and Philly streets are nothing to sneeze at. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
first, i would try to find a cassette rear hub rather than a freewheel hub. i use modern shimano 9 speed hubs and have on occassion removed the 8/9 speed freehub in favor of a 7 speed freehub. using a 135mm axel in conjunction with a 7 speed freehub greatly reduces dish and adds to wheel strength...as will an asym rear rim a double butted 2.0/1.8 spoke is a good compromise between strength/lightness. i also have used straight gauge 2.0 spokes on touring wheels with good results Do THIS before eating carbs #40;every time#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/52f145d85d5c145d8122bst04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Changing the name or splitting of this group?
It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wool, Ventile, and Quicksnow Non-Intentional Experiment
I have no thoughts on the robustness of the Riv gear, but you sure do tell a good story. On Monday, February 3, 2014 12:19:18 PM UTC-8, Liesl wrote: I think this qualifies as Riv content given the nature of this winter for many of us in the cold climes, so indulge me for a moment This weekend, since it's too crappy to ride bikes, I went to my college dorm-mates (circa 1977-78) reunion on a small lake in northern Wisconsin. Cold temps (below zero as we drank morning coffee) and 2-3 feet of wet snow on the ground. Five of us headed out with our snowshoes onto the lake in the morning just as ice-fishermen were also heading out in their heavy 4-wheel drive pickup. I was attired in fantastic gear for snowshoeing: vintage buffalo plaid thick wool hunting pants, a down sweater with a wind-proof Empire Canvas cotton anorak over it, Empire boots, and leather chopper mitts. Very quickly, though, the truck got into trouble with 'snow-ice/lake slush and as we watched it, we realized the same thing was happening to us. We came to call this deep and foot-thick layer of slush 'quicksnow', because it acted a lot like quicksand. This slush can form when there's a really heavy snow cover on a lake and it depresses the ice and water seeps over the top or through ice fishing holes. Anyway, we see the truck spinning up green slush, look down at our feet and see that we too are sinking into about a foot of wet wet slush, and elect to *urgently* move to the shore, which was about 50-75 feet away. (see attached photo of the truck's standing-water tracks—water still standing 8 hours after this story happened!) Thinking the pier that someone hadn't taken out for the winter would do the trick, my friend Kris and I made a b-line toward it. But the pier was too high and covered with, again, over 2 feet of snow, and it became clear in a hurry that the pier was not our salvation; we're now about 20 feet from the shore. I look down and the decks of my snowshoes are covered in very watery slush that is instant-freezing to their decks and bindings. I attempt to move my literally freezing feet and fall over onto my side. Immediately and with dread, I feel ice water seeping in at my wrist and elbow. I now have a sense of panic because I am wearing a down sweater with a cotton anorak over it and my boots also have cotton tops. I can see that my wool hunting pants are in the water, but I don't feel it seeping through. I knew if I tried to right myself I would wallow more in this icy water and become perhaps really soaked. I calmly yet urgently said to my friend Kris, I need help getting up. She swiftly pulled me up and I got myself to a sappling on the shore. All of us made it out to the shore/road and back to the cabin with no hypothermia. I've attached before and end-of-the-day photos with both fetching ensembles. Okay, here's the Riv point: I wore my heavy wool pants, wool lined choppers, and wool-lined Empire canvas boots for the entire rest of the day, which was spent outdoors. I traded out my upper torso garments for a ski sweater and a Filson vest. Wool, the miracle fabric. Keeping people warm and alive for 10,000 years. My question: how would the Riv Rain Jacket have done? Would it have kept my down sweater dry in this situation? Any ventile-wearers (meaning at least you, Deacon Patrick) with any kind of similar experience? -Riv Chica Warrior of the Quicksnow! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Grand Bois Flat :-(
I've got about 500 miles on a pair of Grand Bois Cerf (29mm) and have not had a flat. But I rarely ride into town on these tires. Michael On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:53:11 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house. This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn’t *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine’s blog post: The Grand Bois “Hetre” 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It’s probably a combination of the width – less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber – and perhaps the tread profile. If you’re running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats? --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com javascript: Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT--White Industries ENO crankset 175 mm with 2 44 tooth rings
These have been traded tentatively. Thanks to all those who responded. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:44:53 AM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: My single speed days are over. Time to let these go. White Industries ENO crankset 175 mm. Two 44 tooth rings. One has about 500 km on it, they other more but lots of life still in it. Price for all $125 plus shipping. Which is around $20-25. Those are Canadian dollars which means you pay about $135.00 American dollars. Crank arms only $100 plus shipping (Canadian dollars). Fair to good condition with some scratches, Look at the photos herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/87106495@N07/sets/72157635205572514/. Replacement cost would be $330. For an even better deal, buy and ship to me Paul Thumbies, black 22.2 for Shimano shifters and we will call it even. It would cost you less than $100. Thomas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
Agreed, soon spring will be here and ride reports and mechanical questions will balance out the parts sales. We probably all have stuff in our parts bins we want to unload before spring, and hey I think its making both seller and buyer happy so I say live and let live, but buy from Riv if you can. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Cotton and Wool Winter Army Gear
Montclair BobbyB: I am interested in the Swedish military wool sweater. It says dry clean only...Can you get away with washing it by hand or in a washing machine? I don't like to use dry cleaning on my outdoor clothes. Michael Osaka, Japan On Monday, February 3, 2014 12:50:25 AM UTC+9, Montclair BobbyB wrote: I got a little creative this year with my winter gear, trading synthetic (lycra, fleece and Gore Tex) for some traditional wool and cotton Army gear, and boy am I glad I did. We've had some fabulous winter conditions for snowshoeing and mountain biking here in NJ and I got to put my new gear to the test. For the past week the snow has been too deep and powdery (a rarity for NJ), which is great for showshoeing, and thanks to steady foot traffic the trails have become semi-packed, adequate for 2.3 in knobbies to climb and descend even the steep trails... I've recently acquired 2 pieces of Swedish Army surplus gear; a 100% wool zipper sweater with extra long sleeves (with thumb holes), and a heavy cotton snow smock, both awesome and inexpensive. For warmth on yesterday's ride I wore 2 layers of wool (a thin Merino base layer and the Swedish sweater). For my outer shell I wore the snow smock. Typically I had been used to shedding layers at the top of a major climb (from over-heating)... With this wool-cotton setup the heat buildup was more gradual, and seemed to dissipate MUCH faster (due to the high breathability of the fabric). I posted a few weeks ago that I had also picked up a wool Boreal shirt (made from wool army blankets), which is SO ridiculously warm I left that at home. But for super cold days the wool Boreal and the cotton snow smock make an outstanding combo for active wear where you expect to be perspiring. And although it's not Army surplus, I added a Ventile cotton jacket (which WAS developed by the British military) as my everyday winter jacket that I wear to the office.. it just FEELS amazing. I do get some odd looks and smiles from people, *(especially my brother, who refers to me as Luke Skywalker)* when I'm wearing the snow smock, I REALLY love this gear, and am now on the lookout for other similar gear from military establishments around the world... *(hey, this stuff is field-tested, right?)* Anyone else a fan of *(peacetime use)* of army gear?? Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
having both bought and sold here, including selling to WTB threads, I'm much in favor, but will also note that using the transactions tag is a plus. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:15:22 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Agreed, soon spring will be here and ride reports and mechanical questions will balance out the parts sales. We probably all have stuff in our parts bins we want to unload before spring, and hey I think its making both seller and buyer happy so I say live and let live, but buy from Riv if you can. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
And as Jim has noted, it's not up for a vote anyway. #justride.. On 2/4/2014 4:01 PM, Ron Mc wrote: having both bought and sold here, including selling to WTB threads, I'm much in favor, but will also note that using the transactions tag is a plus. O -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
what's the appropriate transaction tag? On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: having both bought and sold here, including selling to WTB threads, I'm much in favor, but will also note that using the transactions tag is a plus. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:15:22 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Agreed, soon spring will be here and ride reports and mechanical questions will balance out the parts sales. We probably all have stuff in our parts bins we want to unload before spring, and hey I think its making both seller and buyer happy so I say live and let live, but buy from Riv if you can. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
I've gotten flats on the last two brevets I did on my Pari-Motos. I think I'm going to have to throw the back tire out soon, the center section has worn smooth and I'm not sure how much farther it can go. It has maybe 700 miles on it. Oh well, I enjoy the ride. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house. This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn't *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine's blog post: The Grand Bois Hetre 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It's probably a combination of the width - less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber - and perhaps the tread profile. If you're running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats? --Eric Norris Email: campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Changing the name or splitting of this group?
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!tags/rbw-owners-bunch/transactions-sell-buy-trade On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 5:48:36 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: what's the appropriate transaction tag? On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: having both bought and sold here, including selling to WTB threads, I'm much in favor, but will also note that using the transactions tag is a plus. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:15:22 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: Agreed, soon spring will be here and ride reports and mechanical questions will balance out the parts sales. We probably all have stuff in our parts bins we want to unload before spring, and hey I think its making both seller and buyer happy so I say live and let live, but buy from Riv if you can. On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: seems to be a winter thing - same thing is happening on i-bob On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:25:22 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote: It could be named: Used Rivendellian items for sale. Claytonious Q -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
I think the asymmetric rear rim is the greatest thing since sealed bearings. It lets you build a stronger rear wheel with narrower axle and more gears. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Grand Bois Flat :-(
Eric I've had no fewer flats on Hetres than anything else. Hetre ELs on my Rawland, and I've flatted once in the first 500 miles. I've run standard Hetres on my Hilsen, and I've flatted with them. In all cases legitimate punctures where I've found the wire, or thorn or glass embedded in the tire opposite the hole in the tube and pulled it out. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:53:11 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote: Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house. This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn’t *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine’s blog post: The Grand Bois “Hetre” 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It’s probably a combination of the width – less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber – and perhaps the tread profile. If you’re running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats? --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com javascript: Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
The only wheel I ever built used a Phil FW rear hub. Pretty sure the rim was not offset. Hopefully it is still providing service for the present owner of that Hillborne. Personally, I prefer straight spokes, but most folks agree butted are actually stronger. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: I think the asymmetric rear rim is the greatest thing since sealed bearings. It lets you build a stronger rear wheel with narrower axle and more gears. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
There are tons of really cheap $100 - $200 tandems on craigslist. I just bought a 1969 Schwinn Twinn for $125. Obviously this isn't an event grade bike but my girlfriend and I have had a good time playing around with it in the city. I would suggest you consider picking up something inexpensive at first to make sure you both enjoy riding together. I know everyone here appreciates fine craftsmanship and high quality but there is always something to be said for having a fun POS that you can just get silly with. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Project - Trail Bike
May be a good time to revisit Riv - they're apparently covered up in small frames. A deal might be had. On Sunday, February 2, 2014 5:34:32 PM UTC-8, Lesli Larson wrote: Starting project to build up a new fire trail / off-road bike . I am trying to decide between a new frame and maybe something vintage . I am a shortish woman and I ride a 48 cm to 50 cm frame. Would love to buy a bombadil or Atlantis but what do folks recommend in the the used/vintage category. What would your bike build look like? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
Butted spokes stronger? Lighter I get. Is dynamic elasticity on a built wheel in use more focused in the thinned spoke length, between the butts, isolating the nipple threading and elbow (failure points) from stress? I've heard wheel builders preferring butted spokes to distribute some of the stresses from rim eyelets and hub flanges by way of the greater elasticity of the spokes compared to straight gauge and I can vouch for a more lively feeling wheel set when using DBs. Just never heard of a DB spoke being a stronger wheel component itself. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:26:38 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: The only wheel I ever built used a Phil FW rear hub. Pretty sure the rim was not offset. Hopefully it is still providing service for the present owner of that Hillborne. Personally, I prefer straight spokes, but most folks agree butted are actually stronger. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I think the asymmetric rear rim is the greatest thing since sealed bearings. It lets you build a stronger rear wheel with narrower axle and more gears. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Bikepacking tips?
Downhill braking of that load seems to be a problem unless you let the cart in front of the donkey and belay the load. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 10:54:47 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Update (with a loss of Riv content): Colorado is actually getting snow this year, after years of snow drought (by our standards, anyway). We're measuring now in feet again. YES! This is a wondrous thing, but wreaks havoc on my winter bikepacking plans. After testing it out with my Hunqapillar far less loaded than it would be for camping, pushing a bike uphill through 22 of snow is not happening. So, how to carry gear without weight above my waist? SkiPulk! I'm hoping it works, and there's only one way to find out. Grin. Here is my planned deep winter backcountry steed: http://skipulk.com With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, February 1, 2014 7:58:49 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here's a great picture of how well fatbikes float. Grin. http://www.flickr.com/photos/33954883@N08/6502477443/in/photolist-aUAU14-dJCYu4-bXpzQj-bXpznW-91H3LH-8GpMAG-9rQW2p-9rQW2i-9rQW2t-9ddjcg-eUgw2s-93KnUb-9zMD6b-9myP2a-9myM9i-a67ovk-9zMCd3-8GmBqF-aupt2n-ctPFrq-9dgrCQ-9cxD2i-bjBgNz-cYWXYf-b9HmvX-dMAqwf-dMuRT6-dMAqkW-dMAquS-dMAqr1-dNYV7R-dP5wFN-jwUGBB-dGWkeM-arywAL-7zrZZt-dpxL6a-dpxLar-i3Qtq2-7zvJMh-7zvHAW-dkqd8A-dkqcP5-dkqcUm-9cxEJp-9cAN3E-98geDV-98gewP-98gepF-98jo9b-dMAqtA With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:05:28 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm not familiar with Motobecane, but wherever this marketing came from I'm calling BS: Float over three feet of soft powder snow A toboggan with a single person on it doesn't do that unless it is packed, and then it doesn't matter how deep it is. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:00:25 AM UTC-7, Skenry wrote: The fat bikes don't have to be expensive. I'm trying so very hard not to purchase one of these... http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/fat-bikes/fantom-fat-bikes_fb4comp_xiv.htm only $695 shipped On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Ryan ryte...@mts.net wrote: And here's another site with links for winter cycling including maintenance: http://greenactioncentre.ca/2012/cycling-through-winter/ In Winnipeg, a lot of the couriers go fixed or single-speed, but we're pretty flat in Winnipeg so the less is more philosophy works well here; obviously this doesn't apply to your situation. Those fat bikes seem like they'd be great for bikepacking, but they sure aren't inexpensive, and I realize you want to use your Hunqapillar. I suspect some snowshoes that you could pack would be useful, too if the snow's deep, because I suspect you'll have to hike a lot of sections. Regards On Monday, January 27, 2014 8:21:38 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Thanks, Jim. Yes, it is quite a temperature range -- bigger than summer's range. Yesterday, we reached 45 here, and this morning was -5˚F, so that is a 50 degree swing in 18 hours. I've ridden my bike for short rides down to -15˚F. So I'm reasonably comfortable that my setup is OK as is. I didn't see anything super glaring in the list you provided. Yes, miles of deep snow will be an adventure. I'm curious to see how that goes. With my vertigo, I can't carry any weight above my waist, so my wheeled pack-mammoth is my beast of burden. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, January 27, 2014 6:01:01 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: Sorry, forgot the link: http://www.allweathersports. com/isport/ibiketips.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for tandems?
My buddy had his Cannondale tandem set up for him with his two daughters - the taller as stoker and the much shorter daughter on a Burley Piccolo trailer bike. On Friday, January 31, 2014 2:51:06 PM UTC-6, Tim McNamara wrote: On Jan 31, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hopefully there will be a small window where he's tall enough to ride the tandem with me and not old enough to realize his dad is a huge dork and not want to ride it with me. The dilemma of fatherhood in a nutshell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Bosco interrupted?
Just wondering and pondering on the wonderful ponderosa of possibilities, and so I'll ask - has anyone put reverse-action brake levers on Bosco bars, and also run the cables along the bars, under tape, to a pair of interruptors at the stem? Seems like that setup could provide a dreamy surface for hand positions with brakes at both ends, and nothing inbetween to catch your hands as they move forth and back. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Grand Bois Flat :-(
I've had three having covering maybe a thousand miles. The last was about a year ago at night in 25 degree windy weather. I hoofed it about a quarter mile to a school that had a flood light on. I always carry a spare tube and with light I was able to swap it out. The culprit was a small rose thorn. The heavy mittens I ride with in the winter are no help when changing a flat, so I got mighty cold hand in the process. I still like the Hetres enough to continue riding on them, but now I carry a pair of light gloves when the temperature drops. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:53:11 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote: Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house. This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn’t *that* bad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine’s blog post: The Grand Bois “Hetre” 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It’s probably a combination of the width – less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber – and perhaps the tread profile. If you’re running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats? --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com javascript: Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Bosco interrupted?
You have me wanting to try that. Especially since I'm thinking of putting Boscos on a Niner mountain bike. On Feb 4, 2014, at 6:50 PM, BSWP wrote: Just wondering and pondering on the wonderful ponderosa of possibilities, and so I'll ask - has anyone put reverse-action brake levers on Bosco bars, and also run the cables along the bars, under tape, to a pair of interruptors at the stem? Seems like that setup could provide a dreamy surface for hand positions with brakes at both ends, and nothing inbetween to catch your hands as they move forth and back. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] First Grand Bois Flat :-(
2-3 flats in 4,000 miles of riding, urban, rural, gravel mixed.JoanOn 02/04/14, Eric Norriscampyonly...@me.com wrote:Well, so much for one of my fantasies (about the very low incidence of flats with Grand Bois Hetres and other high-volume, low-pressure tires). Got my first flat last night while I was out for a short ride in the dark. Close enough to home that I hoofed it the rest of the way and fixed the flat inside the house.This was my first flat after about 500-600 miles of riding, which I guess isn’t thatbad. Guess my hopes were raised by Jan Heine’s blog post:The Grand Bois “Hetre” 650B x 42 mm tires are amazingly flat-proof for most riders. I have had two flats in three years of urban riding on them. It’s probably a combination of the width – less pressure means that the tire can roll over debris without it cutting into the rubber – and perhaps the tread profile.If you’re running GB Hetres, what is your experience with flats?--Eric NorrisEmail: campyonly...@me.comWeb: www.campyonly.comBlog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.comTwitter: @CampyOnlyGuyFlickr:www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Filson Oil Cloth Parka (L) $200, like new
I will entertain any reasonable offer. If you'd like the jacket, please contact me off list with a price that you'd be happy with and let work something out. Thanks again, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: First Grand Bois Flat :-(
I'm almost reluctant to say, bad karma and all no flats in about 1200 miles on mine including some pretty rough dirt. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelbuilding advice: spoke gauge? symmetrical rim?
It makes for a more durable wheel, imo. How one ultimately defines stronger I guess is up to individual interpretation. On Feb 4, 2014 7:54 PM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: Butted spokes stronger? Lighter I get. Is dynamic elasticity on a built wheel in use more focused in the thinned spoke length, between the butts, isolating the nipple threading and elbow (failure points) from stress? I've heard wheel builders preferring butted spokes to distribute some of the stresses from rim eyelets and hub flanges by way of the greater elasticity of the spokes compared to straight gauge and I can vouch for a more lively feeling wheel set when using DBs. Just never heard of a DB spoke being a stronger wheel component itself. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 8:26:38 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: The only wheel I ever built used a Phil FW rear hub. Pretty sure the rim was not offset. Hopefully it is still providing service for the present owner of that Hillborne. Personally, I prefer straight spokes, but most folks agree butted are actually stronger. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: I think the asymmetric rear rim is the greatest thing since sealed bearings. It lets you build a stronger rear wheel with narrower axle and more gears. On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:41:25 PM UTC-6, Tim Gavin wrote: My next bike project is to build up some new 650b wheels for my Riv Road, using its original Phil hubs. I'm soliciting advice for which spoke gauge/butting to use. Use: Road riding/light trail rambling Touring (220lb rider, ~25lb bike, ~20-40lb load) Parts: Phil Wood 36h Road hub (front) / Phil Wood 36h Road FW hub (rear) Velocity Synergy 650B rims 3x Cross laced DT Swiss spokes --- gauge??? Which gauge of spoke is good for this situation? I want light weight but with enough strength for the heavy load. What gauge/butting would be too light? Is straight gauge overkill? Will using 36h allow me to use a slightly lighter gauge? Rim: Can I use a symmetrical rim in the rear, or do I have to use one with asymmetrical drilling? The Phil Wood FW hub's flanges are only 5mm left of center, better than most cassette hubs. I already have two symmetrical Synergy rims, so I'd like to use them for front and rear if I can. Thanks! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS - 64cm Atlantis
Any interested future Atlanti in the 91+ pbh out there!?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes
I'm thinking of getting a Riv AHH (would be my second Riv). My long time ride has simple down tube friction shifters with a 6-cog freewheel. Down tube friction shifters just appeal to me, so I'm trying to figure out if that is a reasonable thing to do with more cogs. Some people have posted that friction shifting with 9 cogs in the back is too fiddly to be practical. I can understand that in general, but would like some feedback from people who have a lot of experience with friction shifting and have tried it with 9 cogs. Does anyone think that works if one has enough experience with friction shifting? The other option is the IRD/Riv 8 cog, which seems to have a decent spread of cog sizes. Would the 8 cog be noticeably easier/better than 9 cogs with friction shifting? Any feedback is much appreciated. Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes
No problem friction shifting 9 speeds with Silver shifters set up as either thumbies or as bar-ends. But the easy hand-access makes very fine tuning not something that bothers me. I haven't tried downtube shifters like that, and given the more frequent fine tuning, the shifter location could make a big difference. I say try it, and if it doesn't work out, get some bar end pods later and move the shifters. However, that suggestion doesn't work if you dislike bar ends. On Feb 4, 2014, at 9:33 PM, Reid wrote: I'm thinking of getting a Riv AHH (would be my second Riv). My long time ride has simple down tube friction shifters with a 6-cog freewheel. Down tube friction shifters just appeal to me, so I'm trying to figure out if that is a reasonable thing to do with more cogs. Some people have posted that friction shifting with 9 cogs in the back is too fiddly to be practical. I can understand that in general, but would like some feedback from people who have a lot of experience with friction shifting and have tried it with 9 cogs. Does anyone think that works if one has enough experience with friction shifting? The other option is the IRD/Riv 8 cog, which seems to have a decent spread of cog sizes. Would the 8 cog be noticeably easier/better than 9 cogs with friction shifting? Any feedback is much appreciated. Reid -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- lots of bike items: Nitto, Tubus, MKS, Dura-Ace
On Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:37:39 PM UTC-8, Bruce Smitham wrote: *Bike items for sale-* Prefer local pick up in San Diego but will consider shipping. Make me an offer if you like. Email: bsmit...@jlohr.com or call/text 310-968-6910 to discuss nitto Campee rear rack- in perfect condition $139 Zefal frame pump HPX classic No. 3 fits tube gaps 46cm-52cm new- $30 WTB Pure V saddle- new $30 Dia Compe road brake levers, long pull for linear brakes in good condition $20 Slime Smart Tube 26 X 1.75-2.125 presta- new in box $5 Chamois Butter almost new $5 Cloud 9 saddle in very good condition $10 Campagnolo Athena 11 speed chain in excellent condition- less than 20 miles. Shortened for compact crank 50 X 25 tooth cassette $20 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Down tube friction shfiters and 9-cog cassettes
I've run both 8 and 9 speed cassettes on my Hilsen with Silver barends. Have not run as downtube shifters, but would tend to think that shorter cables always make for more positive shifts. I did swap the pulleys between top and bottom. On most derailleurs, the top/guide pulley is designed to float - specifically to assist shifting and run with slop if the indexing is slightly off. I found that it worked better for me when I switched them. Hope that helps! - Jim Jim Edgar / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
