[RBW] FS: 52cm Sam Hillborne

[cyclotourist]

http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/bik/4377692077.html
Not mine, but just down the road. Looks like primo condition.

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

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Re: [RBW] TrunkSack vs. Saddlebag

[ascpgh]

I had that revelation in college. Textbooks the worst; so dense they 
shifted inside any luggage but when I strapped the book pack to my rear 
rack to "alleviate" the problem it became worse. It made my bike steer 
oddly, resist my body english and climbing out of the saddle nearly threw 
me off it. Lack of information limited realistic analysis or insight at the 
time. 

Apparently a little detachment to isolate a load from the bike is good and 
the mounting location produces variations unique to any particular bike. 
I'v been using a Nelson Longflap saddlebag for commuting for eight years 
now. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh, PA

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:06:20 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:

I asked about the B.17N, the narrow version of the B.17, specifically to 
> suggest it: everything you like about the B.17, only narrow. 
>
> Loaded trunk bags are far more noticeable than a loaded saddlebag, a 
> very noticeable tail-wagging-the-dog feeling.  A loaded saddlebag is 
> almost unnoticeable in my experience except when rocking the bike out of 
> the saddle, but a heavily loaded trunk bag really feels like it's 
> wagging the back of the bike. 
>
>
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:06:20 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 03/20/2014 02:46 AM, john wrote: 
> > Steve: 
> > 
> > The B.17 has bag loops, of course, but if I choose to ride a different 
> > saddle (heresy, I know) without bag loops, I can either choose to 
> > attach a saddlebag with aftermarket loops such as the VO, or carry my 
> > stuff in a different fashion. I was trying to determine how the loaded 
> > trunk rides versus the loaded saddlebag. 
>
> I asked about the B.17N, the narrow version of the B.17, specifically to 
> suggest it: everything you like about the B.17, only narrow. 
>
> Loaded trunk bags are far more noticeable than a loaded saddlebag, a 
> very noticeable tail-wagging-the-dog feeling.  A loaded saddlebag is 
> almost unnoticeable in my experience except when rocking the bike out of 
> the saddle, but a heavily loaded trunk bag really feels like it's 
> wagging the back of the bike. 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

[jimD]

A tip of my virtual hat to this. Well said!
-JimD
On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Eunice Chang  wrote:

> Emily,
> 
> I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy and 
> enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more, that's 
> a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go for it. 
> If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or a cheaper frame 
> (Surly LHT comes to mind). 
> 
> The first time I rode an Atlantis, I wanted to ride it forever. Unfortunately 
> it was on temporary loan, and I regret not buying it from the owner when I 
> had the chance. 
> 
> Due to personal circumstances, I ended up with a custom mixte that cost about 
> as much as a fully equipped Atlantis, and it was set up in Riv style, and 
> it's been worth every penny. Never mind that I ride a mere two miles to the 
> coffee shop, and not even everyday; every time I ride it I always want to 
> ride more and look for new routes.
> 
> Good luck with your decision.
> 
> Eunice
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after riding 
> on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to get from 
> point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-)
> 
> ~Hugh
> 
> “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” 
> ― Albert Einstein
> 
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky  wrote:
> If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as well.
> This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here.
> Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike.
> :)
> Tom
> 
> 
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote:
> Hello, 
> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with 
> all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average 
> weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I 
> feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never ridden 
> an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to try. I 
> love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national tours 
> and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is it 
> irresponsible to spend this much money?
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Re: [RBW] TrunkSack vs. Saddlebag

[jimD]

I'm also a person that the B17 doesn't work for.
A B17-N is much better. A Brooks Swift is perfecto.
I've not tried a Swallow but, as I recall, the Swift/Swallow dimensions are 
similar.
-JimD

On Mar 20, 2014, at 8:08 AM, john  wrote:

> Thanks Steve. These are the specifics I'm after. Perhaps I'll try a B.17N. My 
> Sitz are 115M wide, so I definitely do better on a narrower saddle, 
> especially as my bars are a tad lower than my saddle.
> 
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 6:06:20 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> On 03/20/2014 02:46 AM, john wrote: 
> > Steve: 
> > 
> > The B.17 has bag loops, of course, but if I choose to ride a different 
> > saddle (heresy, I know) without bag loops, I can either choose to 
> > attach a saddlebag with aftermarket loops such as the VO, or carry my 
> > stuff in a different fashion. I was trying to determine how the loaded 
> > trunk rides versus the loaded saddlebag. 
> 
> I asked about the B.17N, the narrow version of the B.17, specifically to 
> suggest it: everything you like about the B.17, only narrow. 
> 
> Loaded trunk bags are far more noticeable than a loaded saddlebag, a 
> very noticeable tail-wagging-the-dog feeling.  A loaded saddlebag is 
> almost unnoticeable in my experience except when rocking the bike out of 
> the saddle, but a heavily loaded trunk bag really feels like it's 
> wagging the back of the bike. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Sackville Saddlesack Medium

[jimD]

I too recently got this bag.

I've been using a large Carradice bag for several years but it wasn't quite 
large enough for things I carry on my daily commute. 

Boy is the Saddlesack a  great bag.
 Great design, very practical and clearly designed by folks who use what they 
make/sell. 
Plus it passes the wife test. When Patrysh first saw it, I could see that she 
had 'purse envy'.

-JimD

On Mar 18, 2014, at 7:13 PM, Hudson Doerge  wrote:

> Just bought one from riv recently as well. In tan too, which I must say I 
> prefer to the green. So gorgeous. I'm glad I didn't wait to pick one up. 
> Rather than waiting, I'd go straight to the source. The bag is totally worth 
> it. 
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[RBW] Boat Anchoring

[jimD]

I'll say this; the further I move toward my antiquity, the more I feel like a 
boat anchor.

Irregardless of what bike I'm on.

-JimD

(trying to move gracefully into the sunset.)

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[RBW] Re: Boat Anchoring

[Ron Mc]

this is exactly what I've been trying to avoid, and I'm feeling successful. 
 Of course we have the advantage here of winter being the most desirable 
time to ride, so I've improved my strength through the past season.  Now my 
old Raleigh is starting to look like a boat anchor with everything hanging 
on it.  However, in spite of its 30 lbs, its function seem to get better 
and better.  I think I'll call it the X-1.  

On Friday, March 21, 2014 7:16:34 AM UTC-5, JimD wrote:
>
>
> I'll say this; the further I move toward my antiquity, the more I feel 
> like a boat anchor. 
>
> Irregardless of what bike I'm on. 
>
> -JimD 
>
> (trying to move gracefully into the sunset.)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Best Nitto handlebars for Shimano 105 shifters?

[Steven Frederick]

I needed to shorten my reach to the bars due to a neck injury and the HWY 1
works great for me.  It shortens (with the same stem) my reach 3-4cm,
compared to Noodles.  (I used to love the noodles for their roominess but
in the last few years it became more of a bother than an advantage)

Steve.


On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Mike Schiller
wrote:

> I've never ridden one.  I know several people who are happy with them.
>  None of them thought the stiffness was any less than Nitto bars. The
> design is more in the modern trend for short ramps.
>
> ~mike
>
> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 9:02:41 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:
>>
>> Mike, how is the quality of the Soma Hwy One compared to Nitto?
>>
>> Thanks, Bruce
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:58:26 PM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>>
>>> Bruce, the Hwy one bar from Soma Fab has 2 cm less reach than a Noodle
>>> and comes in silver and 26.0 clamp.
>>>
>>> ~mike
>>> Carlsbad Ca.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 6:22:11 PM UTC-7, Bruce Smitham wrote:

 Hi group,

 I currently have 46cm Nitto noodle 177 bars with Shimano 105 shifters
 on my Sam Hillborne. I like everything except the ramp and hood reach is a
 little far away to comfortably brake. I'm looking for a different Nitto
 handlebar and it's a little confusing. I want a shorter ramp so when I move
 from the flats it moves quickly to the hoods. Does anyone have any
 knowledge of the dirt drop or rando bars? It would help if you know the
 model number. Looking for 26.0 X 44cm

 I appreciate any feedback,

 Bruce, San Diego

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is that a pre-release of the War Horse on the home page slideshow?

[Tim Gavin]

I like the silver/green headbadge.  Mine is bronze/green.




On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Dan McNamara  wrote:

> I am really looking forward to seeing this bike in person. My now 2.5 year
> old and I were at RBW HQ for the design conversation between Grant and
> Liesl. Hoping to bring the little one Saturday. And the kid's seat on back
> of the Bomba just in case there is a very mild ride planned.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Frank  wrote:
>
>> Varsity, indeed. One of my favorite things about any RBW custom is the
>> use of flathead screws to pin down the head badge. I think of it as the
>> distillate of the whole ethos. The paint is as perfect as the design and
>> brazing, but both look better to me in the company of a stewed-on badge.
>> Really fantastic that they can and will build things like this.
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Boat Anchoring

[Scott G.]

My friend Dale explained as you get older the bike has to get 
lighter to maintain a constant speed.

So 20 somethings should ride Raleigh DL-1s, 60 somethings
get steel Colnagos with carbon tubular wheels.
Once you reach 70, special carbon rando bikes with FMB 40mm
tubies.

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Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Minh]

Well hope Emily comes back and gives us her verdict.  My 2 cents, if you 
have to ask to spend money then you need to think about it some more.  i 
have a QB and a Hillborne, both are great bikes but sometimes we get too 
romantic about it.  You can get a similiar ride (thank goodness, and no 
doubt due to RBW existing) from other brands.  Even a Hillborne will give 
you a similar ride to an Atlantis.  Of course the Atlantis is nicer, and 
there's nothing wrong with wanting that, but don't let that sway you too 
much, functionally it's not better then other options.

Also, 4K for a fully built Atlantis is OK to me, it is second-hand, if it's 
a typical RBW build, but not great.  again just my 2 cents. 

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[RBW] Re: TrunkSack vs. Saddlebag

[ted]

John,

Another option is to zip tie a medium wald basket to your rack lengthwise. 
I have that arrangement on my 56cm SimpleOne currently. The basket is well 
foreword (almost touches my legs), and as low as possible (rack touches 
fender, though my fender is well off the tire). I have also used a Baggins 
Country bag but on different bikes. I don't think there is much difference 
in the handling for similar loads. I have not used a real trunk sack, so I 
can't say if my experience differs from other responders (who say trunk 
sacks wag the bike) because the basket works differently, or because of 
different positioning, or just because I am an insensitive or unobservant 
rider.


On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:47:28 PM UTC-7, john wrote:
>
> To cut to the chase, I've discovered I do better on a narrower saddle than 
> the Brooks B-17. Problem is, I like the bag loops the saddle provides. I 
> know there are various other methods of attaching a saddlebag to the bike 
> without a Brooks, but I got to thinking: What about not trying to fiddle 
> with it at all and just putting my stuff in a rear Trunk Rack? I've never 
> used one, so I don't know how it would ride. 
>
> Question: for those of you who use or have used the TrunkSack, how does it 
> ride? Noticeably different than using a saddlebag? Granted, a trunk sack is 
> probably smaller than my Baggins "Adam" saddlebag,  but...
>
> Thanks.
> J.
>

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[RBW] Creative Berthoud Saddle Rack lashing ideas

[Minh]

I have one of the Berthoud saddle bags that comes with the 'rack' that 
cradles the bag and attaches to the seatpost.  Sometimes when i go out i'll 
leave the bag at home (mainly because i don't want to take the bag off/on 
due to too many stops during my ride).  Staring at the empty rack i've 
tried to come up with ways to lash things to the rack.  Has anyone with 
this rack come up with creative ways to carry things?  I guess i could just 
wrap whatever in a big sheet and tie it up with twine?  But wanted 
something a little more elegant!

And for a picture of said rack, here's Tom M's beautiful Bombadil!  

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/13194325983/in/photostream/

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Re: [RBW] Boat Anchoring

[Jim Bronson]

I was just reading this when I saw your post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-karin-l-smithson/life-lessons_b_4989547.html


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:16 AM, jimD  wrote:

>
> I'll say this; the further I move toward my antiquity, the more I feel
> like a boat anchor.
>
> Irregardless of what bike I'm on.
>
> -JimD
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Help me decide on tires for off road ramblin Chevoit.

[Mike Schiller]

The 700-40 version measured 40.5 mm on Salsa Delgado 23mm rims for me. 
 Plenty of room on my Orange Sam ( now sold).

~mike

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 8:49:59 PM UTC-7, Bryan wrote:
>
> Does anyone know the actual width of the Smart Sams? I'm wondering if 
> they'll fit on my Hillborne. 
>>
>>
> Bryan 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Sackville Saddlesack Medium

[LeahFoy]

Elton, can I ask why you are selling it? Again, let me know if it doesn't work 
out with Michael.
Thanks! Leah 

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[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

[redsydude]

I have no advice but here is an anode to your cathode. My whole life I’ve 
been a $200 bike person.  Last year I owned four of them and I was sick of 
the clutter so I gathered together one groupset of the best parts, sold or 
gave away everything else and bought a new Sam Hillborne frameset.  I 
figure I have 10x$200 in it and consider it a bargain.  I split my time 
between two cities so I’m back on craigslist looking for another $200 bike. 
When I think about the whole craigslist transaction hassle and the time and 
money to get the bike running OK, $200 bikes now seem outrageously 
overpriced to me.

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:33:29 AM UTC-7, Emily Hutchinson wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis 
> with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and 
> average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and 
> done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've 
> never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find 
> one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and 
> national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help 
> tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?
>

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[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Clayton]

Hi Emily,

I bought my Atlantis new in '99 or so. I have owned many bikes, but my 
Atlantis is the one bike I will never sell. I love it. I have had 3 back 
surgeries and is the most comfortable bike I have ridden. I don't own a 
car, so I ride this bike daily and have hauled 80 lbs or more. I have 
stripped off all the racks and fenders, installed 26" x 2.35" tires and 
ridden it on easy trails. I have worn out several component groups, and it 
is on it's third paint job (powder coat this time). There are other bikes 
that are less expensive and work very well, such as the Surly long haul 
trucker and others, but they, in my mind are like appliances. 
Refrigerators, tool box, vacuum cleaners. The Atlantis is a satori, 
something I can stare at for hours like a TV. Again, you probably can find 
bikes that are functionally equal, and weigh less, but they won't be a Riv 
and they won't be an Atlantis. Life is short. Get a good bike.

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:33:29 AM UTC-7, Emily Hutchinson wrote:
>
> Hello, 
> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis 
> with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and 
> average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and 
> done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've 
> never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find 
> one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and 
> national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help 
> tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?
>

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Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Anne Paulson]

Irresponsible? Not irresponsible at all. The Atlantis is super-duper
for road and gravel tours. I've taken mine across the US twice, as
well as on many other tours.

If you can afford it and you'll ride it, I say go for it.

On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Emily Hutchinson
 wrote:
> Hello,
> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis with
> all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and average
> weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and done and I
> feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've never
> ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find one to
> try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and national
> tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help tip me! Is
> it irresponsible to spend this much money?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Jim Bronson]

Awesome post redsydude

I have a bike that I paid like $160 for off of Ebay and probably wasn't
worth even that, an old early 80s gas pipe Nishiki.  It's what I use when I
need to ride somewhere and lock up a bike.  I keep thinking I will make
some improvements, but then looking at the frame, it's not really worth it.
 So I just fix what breaks or falls off (literally, I have had parts fall
off, like for example the interruptor brake levers) with the cheapest
replacement parts available.  I taco-ed the original front wheel making a
slow left hand turn and replaced it with a $37 front wheel with the
roughest bearings I have ever felt.  It works well enough.

My Rivendell is what I ride everywhere else.  It will never be tamed by a
lock.  You can't compare it to a pos $200 craigslist bike.  It just brings
me way more joy than that.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:57 AM, redsydude  wrote:

> I have no advice but here is an anode to your cathode. My whole life I've
> been a $200 bike person.  Last year I owned four of them and I was sick of
> the clutter so I gathered together one groupset of the best parts, sold or
> gave away everything else and bought a new Sam Hillborne frameset.  I
> figure I have 10x$200 in it and consider it a bargain.  I split my time
> between two cities so I'm back on craigslist looking for another $200 bike.
> When I think about the whole craigslist transaction hassle and the time and
> money to get the bike running OK, $200 bikes now seem outrageously
> overpriced to me.
>
>
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 7:33:29 AM UTC-7, Emily Hutchinson wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis
>> with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and
>> average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and
>> done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've
>> never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find
>> one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and
>> national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help
>> tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Bruce Herbitter]

On a club ride last weekend, pal Frank (on a racked and fendered Bilenky)
and I (on a racked and fendered Saluki -not far different from an Atlantis)
pulled away at 18 - 20 avg from the F85/Roubaix pack, just because we were
felling perky. The Saluki feels comfortable, not heavy. (Tires are GB
Oursons) When a bike feels good, you can feel fast.  I imagine Atlantis
might work on similar lines.


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham wrote:

> If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after
> riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to
> get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-)
>
> ~Hugh
>
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>
> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky  wrote:
>
>> If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as
>> well.
>> This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here.
>> Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike.
>> :)
>> Tom
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis
>>> with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and
>>> average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and
>>> done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've
>>> never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find
>>> one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and
>>> national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help
>>> tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?
>>>
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[RBW] Tire Talk

[Addison Wilhite]

I recently found this video on the making of Schwalbe tires and thought
with all of the tire talk on here recently others might like to check it
out.  Love looking at those big machines working the rubber.

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/03/birthing-tire.html

Cheers,

Addison Wilhite, M.A.

Academy of Arts, Careers and
Technology


*"Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success"*

Educator: Professional Portfolio 

Blogger: Reno Rambler 

Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

[Steven Frederick]

I had 34mm Michelin Dynamics that measured closer to 35's on my Rambly for
a while--they were great but there wasn't much room for more rubber.  These
38c 's would be mighty tight...hopefully someone will take a chance and try
it and report back!


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Kieran J  wrote:

> I would also like to know about this. :-)
>
> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:28:46 PM UTC-4, allenmichael wrote:
>>
>> So they might fit on a Rambouillet without fenders? Still not anyone who
>> has tried it?
>>
>> Michael Allen
>>
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Re: [RBW] Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Steven Frederick]

I can't add much to this, but I will say that I believe that if the
Atlantis is the sort of bike you want, then you can't get a much better one
of that sort...

Steve


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:50 AM, jimD  wrote:

> A tip of my virtual hat to this. Well said!
> -JimD
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Eunice Chang  wrote:
>
> Emily,
>
> I'm going to quote someone who was wiser than me. If it makes you happy
> and enjoy the rides more, the cost is trivial. If it makes you ride more,
> that's a bonus. It's more of a quality thing. And if you can afford it, go
> for it. If you can't, you might want to look for an used Atlantis or a
> cheaper frame (Surly LHT comes to mind).
>
> The first time I rode an Atlantis, I wanted to ride it forever.
> Unfortunately it was on temporary loan, and I regret not buying it from the
> owner when I had the chance.
>
> Due to personal circumstances, I ended up with a custom mixte that cost
> about as much as a fully equipped Atlantis, and it was set up in Riv style,
> and it's been worth every penny. Never mind that I ride a mere two miles to
> the coffee shop, and not even everyday; every time I ride it I always want
> to ride more and look for new routes.
>
> Good luck with your decision.
>
> Eunice
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 PM, Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> If your used to Carbon then yeah Steel can feel like an anchor...after
>> riding on steel a while it's just a mind set and that anchor still seems to
>> get from point A to point B with some rose smelling along the way :-)
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
>> moving." -- Albert Einstein
>>
>> http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:12 PM, tdusky  wrote:
>>
>>>  If the the large Atlantis is a boat anchor I would bet the small is as
>>> well.
>>> This is just my opinion. As is everyone else making comments here.
>>> Tires will also make a huge difference on the feel of the bike.
>>> :)
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:33:29 AM UTC-4, Emily Hutchinson wrote:

 Hello,
 I am trying to talk myself into or out of a really pretty new Atlantis
 with all it's parts. It would be the smaller frame because I'm short and
 average weight 130. The price tag is somewhere around 4000 all said and
 done and I feel stuck. My gut is pushing me in both directions because I've
 never ridden an Atlantis. I'm also out of country and can't just go find
 one to try. I love touring and I'd love to do some long international and
 national tours and live in Colorado with hills. Okay thanks.Someone help
 tip me! Is it irresponsible to spend this much money?

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Re: [RBW] Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers

[Steve Palincsar]

Then you will love the 2015 VW Golf Variant TDI. 

Jim Bronson  wrote:

>Oh I agree with you, it's just not enough to make me want to jump into
>a
>new car.  If it had a diesel and got 35-40 highway mpg then I might be
>more
>eager to take the plunge on a new car.  In fact if they came out with
>any
>small wagon/crossover with a diesel that got 40mpg I might look into
>it.
>The last time I was at the Kia place picking up the kia-specific fluids
>(ugh) I told one of the sales guys that if they had a diesel sportage
>or
>sorrento, I would buy it.  But anyway...
>
>As it is, I've got 85K on my 07 Kia Rondo and I'm going to drive it
>into
>the ground.  It's almost always less expensive to keep or fix the car
>that
>you have, especially when it's paid off.
>
>I'd rather spend money on bikes unless there is really something
>groundbreaking in a car like something roomy that gets 40-50mpg, can
>carry
>my stuff including swallowing a bike in the back without taking off a
>tire,
>and 8' 2x4s without hanging out the window, and fits 6'7" me.  My
>current
>vehicle can do all that.
>
>I'm sorry, were we talking about racks?  ;)
>I use a 20 year old one that I got in college to carry the Riv and my
>buddy's Riv on long trips, it's functional. It's rated for 3 bikes but
>realistically that's three mountain bikes with straight bars, Jeff and
>I
>run 44 and 46 Noodles respectively and you can't fit 3 bikes on with
>that
>width of handlebars in additon to rear bags.
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Steven Frederick 
>wrote:
>
>> Yeah that would be cool, but today, just the way it is, there's
>really
>> nothing to compare on the U.S. market...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jim Bronson
>wrote:
>>
>>> That vehicle would be cooler if they would offer it with the small
>>> turbodiesel engines and manual transmissions that it is offered with
>in
>>> Europe.
>>>
>>> It will be a lame gas automatic here.  I will stick with my Kia
>Rondo for
>>> now.  It's hauled my Riv and my buddy's Riv to lots of brevets.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Steven Frederick
>wrote:
>>>
 Or the modern version, a 2014 Ford Transit Connect.  (very possibly
>my
 next bike hauler)



>http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transitconnect-commercial/?searchid=68112025|5866439905|18516819783&ef_id=UZ4CLwAABDeAqjo3:20140321144656:s






 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Patrick Moore
>wrote:

> Erl: what you really need is one of these, a Citroen Acadiane (or
>the
> earlier 2 CV van that was all but cosmetically identical):
>
> [image: Inline image 1]
>
> I briefly owned one (1750 lbs! 500 kg payload!) and I could get 4
> mid-sized bikes in the back, alternative back to front, without
>removing
> wheels, and carry a 58 cm British Racing Tricycle without any
>disassembly.
>
> Fun to drive, too!
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:59 AM, WETH 
>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the helpful responses.
>> Joe, I appreciate the confirmation on the weight of the racks and
>that
>> they provide good bike separation.
>> Ray, thanks for the 2" hitch suggestion, tail light obstruction
>issue,
>> and the tip about the riser. I had not thought of the potential
>for
>> scraping on sloping surfaces.
>> David, you and I are in agreement about the short comings of
>trunk and
>> roof mounted racks.  Good to know you have had success with your
>Subaru and
>> a platform rack.  That upcoming Sardis does look beautiful and
>sturdy.
>> Thanks for the link.
>> David, I appreciate the reminder of how far out this rack will
>extend.
>>  The sheer size is a concern.
>> Tony, I like the trailer idea with a custom rack inside.
>>  Unfortunately, I do not have a good place to store it when not
>using it.
>>  I think I would also have to register a trailer. (Not a deal
>breaker, just
>> a hassle) Then I could start a thread about the best tires for a
>trailer
>> hauling bikes. ;)
>> For a while I have dreamed of an extended cab, full size bed,
>diesel
>> pickup truck with a custom made, by me, bike rack in the bed!
>>  Unfortunately my wife knows that I know this is not in the
>budget right
>> now.
>> We have at least three multi-night family bike trips on the
>calendar
>> this year, and I hope to add a few more.  Some are less than 5
>hours away
>> like Cumberland, MD and Chincoteague, VA.  The other, PEI in
>Canada, will
>> be a longer drive.
>> Again thanks so much to everyone for taking the time to respond.
>I
>> appreciate all the ideas. I will report back with pics and
>write-up when I
>> choose.
>> Erl
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Re: [RBW] Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers

[Jim Bronson]

Is that like the Golf Plus I've seen in Germany?

Will it fit 8 foot 2x4s??  My Rondo can, just lay the back seats and front
passenger seat flat and position the boards diagonally, front right to back
left.  I've brought home 20+ that way.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

> Then you will love the 2015 VW Golf Variant TDI.
>
> Jim Bronson  wrote:
>>
>> Oh I agree with you, it's just not enough to make me want to jump into a
>> new car.  If it had a diesel and got 35-40 highway mpg then I might be more
>> eager to take the plunge on a new car.  In fact if they came out with any
>> small wagon/crossover with a diesel that got 40mpg I might look into it.
>>  The last time I was at the Kia place picking up the kia-specific fluids
>> (ugh) I told one of the sales guys that if they had a diesel sportage or
>> sorrento, I would buy it.  But anyway...
>>
>> As it is, I've got 85K on my 07 Kia Rondo and I'm going to drive it into
>> the ground.  It's almost always less expensive to keep or fix the car that
>> you have, especially when it's paid off.
>>
>> I'd rather spend money on bikes unless there is really something
>> groundbreaking in a car like something roomy that gets 40-50mpg, can carry
>> my stuff including swallowing a bike in the back without taking off a tire,
>> and 8' 2x4s without hanging out the window, and fits 6'7" me.  My current
>> vehicle can do all that.
>>
>> I'm sorry, were we talking about racks?  ;)
>> I use a 20 year old one that I got in college to carry the Riv and my
>> buddy's Riv on long trips, it's functional. It's rated for 3 bikes but
>> realistically that's three mountain bikes with straight bars, Jeff and I
>> run 44 and 46 Noodles respectively and you can't fit 3 bikes on with that
>> width of handlebars in additon to rear bags.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Steven Frederick wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah that would be cool, but today, just the way it is, there's really
>>> nothing to compare on the U.S. market...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
 That vehicle would be cooler if they would offer it with the small
 turbodiesel engines and manual transmissions that it is offered with in
 Europe.

 It will be a lame gas automatic here.  I will stick with my Kia Rondo
 for now.  It's hauled my Riv and my buddy's Riv to lots of brevets.


 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Steven Frederick wrote:

> Or the modern version, a 2014 Ford Transit Connect.  (very possibly my
> next bike hauler)
>
>
> http://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/transitconnect-commercial/?searchid=68112025|5866439905|18516819783&ef_id=UZ4CLwAABDeAqjo3:20140321144656:s
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Erl: what you really need is one of these, a Citroen Acadiane (or the
>> earlier 2 CV van that was all but cosmetically identical):
>>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>> I briefly owned one (1750 lbs! 500 kg payload!) and I could get 4
>> mid-sized bikes in the back, alternative back to front, without removing
>> wheels, and carry a 58 cm British Racing Tricycle without any 
>> disassembly.
>>
>> Fun to drive, too!
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:59 AM, WETH  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the helpful responses.
>>> Joe, I appreciate the confirmation on the weight of the racks and
>>> that they provide good bike separation.
>>> Ray, thanks for the 2" hitch suggestion, tail light obstruction
>>> issue, and the tip about the riser. I had not thought of the potential 
>>> for
>>> scraping on sloping surfaces.
>>> David, you and I are in agreement about the short comings of trunk
>>> and roof mounted racks.  Good to know you have had success with your 
>>> Subaru
>>> and a platform rack.  That upcoming Sardis does look beautiful and 
>>> sturdy.
>>> Thanks for the link.
>>> David, I appreciate the reminder of how far out this rack will
>>> extend.  The sheer size is a concern.
>>> Tony, I like the trailer idea with a custom rack inside.
>>>  Unfortunately, I do not have a good place to store it when not using 
>>> it.
>>>  I think I would also have to register a trailer. (Not a deal breaker, 
>>> just
>>> a hassle) Then I could start a thread about the best tires for a trailer
>>> hauling bikes. ;)
>>> For a while I have dreamed of an extended cab, full size bed, diesel
>>> pickup truck with a custom made, by me, bike rack in the bed!
>>>  Unfortunately my wife knows that I know this is not in the budget right
>>> now.
>>> We have at least three multi-night family bike trips on the calendar
>>> this year, and I hope to add a few more.  Some are less than 5 hours 
>>> away
>>> like Cumberland, MD and Chincoteague, VA.  The other, PEI in Canada,

[RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[hobie]

I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for 
gravel. I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan 
especially in the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of 
the bikes he reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more 
choices is a good thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it 
seems. So how they design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I 
remember buying a wool long sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because 
the turtleneck was to low. My reason for returning was. "This won't work on 
the east coast". That was about 6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC 
this year he would know what I'm talking about. Had to be the coldest 
winter ever. I think Grant even said he doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite 
tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned is the Schwalbe Super Moto at 
29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm using the Motos on a Jeff 
Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the 
fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like 
an auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack 
of drag from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike 
move very very fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some 
hills the fastest ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have 
enough speed going into a climb and can sustain it, nothing has come 
close.  I've used this same bike w. Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the 
woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff in the rear for east coast mtn. 
biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter bike for mtn biking. I 
presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are Blunt front, 
Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. Great, 
fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because of 
the low BB on the ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!

On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:
>
> Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs 
> the supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website 
> description of a Conti tire:
>
> "...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for 
> more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo 
> tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the 
> bumps..."
>
> Steve
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Patrick Moore]

Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that figure.

If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice
tire for the sandy soils around here.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie  wrote:

> I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for
> gravel. I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan
> especially in the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of
> the bikes he reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more
> choices is a good thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it
> seems. So how they design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I
> remember buying a wool long sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because
> the turtleneck was to low. My reason for returning was. "This won't work on
> the east coast". That was about 6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC
> this year he would know what I'm talking about. Had to be the coldest
> winter ever. I think Grant even said he doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite
> tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned is the Schwalbe Super Moto at
> 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm using the Motos on a Jeff
> Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the
> fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like
> an auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack
> of drag from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike
> move very very fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some
> hills the fastest ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have
> enough speed going into a climb and can sustain it, nothing has come
> close.  I've used this same bike w. Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the
> woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff in the rear for east coast mtn.
> biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter bike for mtn biking. I
> presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are Blunt front,
> Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. Great,
> fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because of
> the low BB on the ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!
>
> On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:
>>
>> Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs
>> the supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website
>> description of a Conti tire:
>>
>> "...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
>> more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo
>> tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the
>> bumps..."
>>
>> Steve
>>
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[RBW] Wtb a quickbeam 54cm

[JL]

Someone sell me a 54cm Quickbeam, an orange one if possible. (A 56 could work 
too).

I am particular about two things:
Upper fork eyelets are a must have.
Kickstand plate is a must not have.

Thanks all :) - reply offlist
Jason
SF,CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[jimmy johnsen]

Patrick. The Schwalbe website list them as 680 grams. Aren't the Apples wire 
bead? I don't ride wire bead tires. I think they are slow. I use to ride sew 
ups or tubulars on the track and road. A folding tire comes closer to the feel 
and speed of a sew up and will always beat a wire bead. Jan has more of a 
vintage roadie mentality. Grant's vibe is more recreational rider. I can't 
believe Grant doesn't carry the Super Motos. I like speed and comfort, not 
drag. You might as well have fast tires. There are plenty of other things on a 
bike to slow you down. You don't need something holding you back. So have the 
fastest tires. The only tire Grant designed that I liked was the Fatty Rump and 
that didn't come close to the Hetres. Both on the trail and road the Hetres 
rolled much better then Rump. Did I say I really like the Super Motos? I 
inflate them super high for the road and never feel bumps because of the volume 
and width of my rims. Maybe it's
 the combo of all the components on my present ride that it handles so well. 
Finding the right mix can be a challenge. There is nothing wrong with going 
fast. I still enjoy what's going on around me, but just at a faster pace. I 
don't know how the Motos will handle on anything other then my rides which is a 
mix of dirt/ hard pack and road. Just my opinion. Hobie



On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
  
Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that figure.

If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice tire 
for the sandy soils around here. 



On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie  wrote:

I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for gravel. 
I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan especially in 
the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of the bikes he 
reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more choices is a good 
thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it seems. So how they 
design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I remember buying a wool long 
sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because the turtleneck was to low. My 
reason for returning was. "This won't work on the east coast". That was about 6 
years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC this year he would know what I'm 
talking about. Had to be the coldest winter ever. I think Grant even said he 
doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned 
is the Schwalbe Super Moto at 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm 
using the Motos on a Jeff
 Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the 
fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like an 
auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack of drag 
from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike move very very 
fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some hills the fastest 
ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have enough speed going into a 
climb and can sustain it, nothing has come close.  I've used this same bike w. 
Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff 
in the rear for east coast mtn. biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter 
bike for mtn biking. I presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are 
Blunt front, Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. 
Great, fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because 
of the low BB on the
 ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!
>
>On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:
>Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs the 
>supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website 
>description of a Conti tire:
>>
>>"...It has a good, 
stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for more support should you 
ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo tread. Mounts 
easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the bumps..."
>>
>>Steve
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Re: [RBW] Re: New version of the AllRounder?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I agree with Leslie regarding a 650b Hilsen. I have a Roadeo, a 650b
Ram and a 650b Hilsen, and if I could only choose one, then the Hilsen
can handle 100% of my current riding needs--I would need to pull off
and put on racks/fenders/tires/wheelsets depending upon my needs, but
it would do it all.  It is a great all-rounder--you can set it up to
go fast--minimally encumbered or get a kickstand, front and rear racks
and do some light touring.

Toshi


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Leslie  wrote:
> Scott,
> Have you considered getting a 58 Hilsen in 650b?
> If I had to give up my current bikes and only pick one that's currently
> available, that might be my choice
>
> -L
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 17, 2014 10:41:12 AM UTC-4, Scott Shelton wrote:
>>
>> Hello RBW,
>> Is there any interest in Rivendell making a new version of the AllRounder?
>> I know they make similar frames, however, in a 58cm/86 PBH or greater all
>> RIV non custom frames are made for 700c wheels.
>> I am currently riding a late 80's Specialized mountain bike with drop
>> bars, I really enjoy the light, nimble feel of the 26" wheels with 1.5 or
>> 1.75 tires.
>> For most mountain trails and fire roads the 26" wheel is just fine. I
>> can't justify a $3500 custom frame set to get a 58cm Atlantis with 26"
>> wheels.
>> I have ridden wide 700c off road and although they do "roll" over
>> obstacles better than 26",however, they are in no way nimble and are
>> noticeabley slower to accellerate.
>>
>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>> Cheers
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. 680 grams is 200 grams less than the original 700cX2.35 Big Apples,
wire bead, and about 100 grams less than the "Litespeed" folding version.

I may just try those some day. Right now I have the superest lighter-est
Furious Freds on the Fargo, but they measure a paltry 55 mm on the 44 mm
rims.

With tubeless and Stan's the Super Moto should be fine.

Does wire bead really slow a tire down? How would it affect the factors
that determine rolling resistance -- ie, if tread depth and material, and
sidewall suppleness are the same for all?

#2: if anyone wants to buy a pair of VG 622X2.35 Weirwolfs, I will sell the
pair for $50 + shipping.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jimmy johnsen  wrote:

> Patrick. The Schwalbe website list them as 680 grams. Aren't the Apples
> wire bead? I don't ride wire bead tires. I think they are slow. I use to
> ride sew ups or tubulars on the track and road. A folding tire comes closer
> to the feel and speed of a sew up and will always beat a wire bead. Jan has
> more of a vintage roadie mentality. Grant's vibe is more recreational
> rider. I can't believe Grant doesn't carry the Super Motos. I like speed
> and comfort, not drag. You might as well have fast tires. There are plenty
> of other things on a bike to slow you down. You don't need something
> holding you back. So have the fastest tires. The only tire Grant designed
> that I liked was the Fatty Rump and that didn't come close to the Hetres.
> Both on the trail and road the Hetres rolled much better then Rump. Did I
> say I really like the Super Motos? I inflate them super high for the road
> and never feel bumps because of the volume and width of my rims. Maybe it's
> the combo of all the components on my present ride that it handles so well.
> Finding the right mix can be a challenge. There is nothing wrong with going
> fast. I still enjoy what's going on around me, but just at a faster pace. I
> don't know how the Motos will handle on anything other then my rides which
> is a mix of dirt/ hard pack and road. Just my opinion. Hobie
>
>
>   On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>  Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that
> figure.
>
> If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice
> tire for the sandy soils around here.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie  wrote:
>
> I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for
> gravel. I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan
> especially in the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of
> the bikes he reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more
> choices is a good thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it
> seems. So how they design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I
> remember buying a wool long sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because
> the turtleneck was to low. My reason for returning was. "This won't work on
> the east coast". That was about 6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC
> this year he would know what I'm talking about. Had to be the coldest
> winter ever. I think Grant even said he doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite
> tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned is the Schwalbe Super Moto at
> 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm using the Motos on a Jeff
> Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the
> fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like
> an auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack
> of drag from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike
> move very very fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some
> hills the fastest ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have
> enough speed going into a climb and can sustain it, nothing has come
> close.  I've used this same bike w. Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the
> woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff in the rear for east coast mtn.
> biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter bike for mtn biking. I
> presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are Blunt front,
> Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. Great,
> fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because of
> the low BB on the ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!
>
> On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote:
>
> Interesting encapsulation of Grant's preference for beefier tires.  (vs
> the supple casing, light racy tires Jan espouses)  From the RBW website
> description of a Conti tire:
>
> "...It has a good, stiff sidewall for reduced flex and fatigue, and for
> more support should you ever have to ride it dead flat. Wire bead. Combo
> tread. Mounts easily and as straight as an arrow, with no massaging out the
> bumps..."
>
> Steve
>
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Re: [RBW] Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers

[WETH]

I really appreciate all the suggestions!
Ray, the link to risers was much appreciated as was the link to the Transit 
racks at Performance. Those are half the price of comparable Yakima product 
through REI. Though I have high praise for Yakima and REI for always standing 
behind their products for me.
Matt, the link to the Hollywood rack is helpful as I now have four brands to 
compare. I also do want one that I can reduce to 2 bikes when not hauling 4. 
Thanks.
Davidcha, thanks for your feedback on the Thule hanging rack.
Hugh, you are right, this is expensive, especially as I need to add in cost of 
the hitch.  But I have gotten good at rationalizing expenditures on my Rivbikes 
and Riv inspired bikes.
Steve and Patrick, I am a fan of a utilitarian vehicle.  I used to really want 
a Honda Element for that reason.  I remain disappointed they never made it in a 
diesel.  And Steve, I understand how nice it would be to travel with the bikes 
inside with me.  My problem is I need seating for four and room for four bikes.
Thanks again.  
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

[Jim M.]

Is the debut ride on? What time?

jim m
wc ca

On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:51:21 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
>
>> I know a route that is flatish, on a bike trail for most of it. 
> But it requires a creek crossing and carrying your bike up some stairs.
> Maybe a walk up a hill. But it ends with an awesome rope swing!
>
> Here's the route. Short and sweet. 
>
> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>
> Grant has a route he does before/after work. I vaguely know what that is. 
> Equally short with some climbs, walking and mellow single tracks. 
>
> Vague route: 
> http://goo.gl/maps/88J7m
>
> Either is good. The Warhorse looks good btw. Excited to see you ride it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>  
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[RBW] FS: 650b Single Speed Quickbeam Wheelset.

[David Banzer]

Excuse the potential crosspost from the 650b group...

I believe these are wheels that would've come with the smaller 650b 
Quickbeams.

FS: 650b Single Speed Wheelset. 

Suzue high flange silver hubs, qr with skewers included. 32h.  
Rear is free/free flip/flop. 
120/100 spacing. 
Laced to Velocity Synergy rims. 

$160 plus actual shipping, or local pickup in Chicago. 
Paypal Personal payment, please. 
Thanks,
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

[Bill Lindsay]

When Manny says "flat-ish", I think:






On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:51:21 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
>
>> I know a route that is flatish, on a bike trail for most of it. 
> But it requires a creek crossing and carrying your bike up some stairs.
> Maybe a walk up a hill. But it ends with an awesome rope swing!
>
> Here's the route. Short and sweet. 
>
> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>
> Grant has a route he does before/after work. I vaguely know what that is. 
> Equally short with some climbs, walking and mellow single tracks. 
>
> Vague route: 
> http://goo.gl/maps/88J7m
>
> Either is good. The Warhorse looks good btw. Excited to see you ride it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wtb a quickbeam 54cm

[Philip Williamson]

So that narrows it to an orange one, right? 

Green Quickbeams = no extra mid-fork eyelets, no kickstand plate
Orange Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, no kickstand plate
Silver Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, yes kickstand plate


Personally, I'd take a kickstand plate over the extraneous eyelets, but I'm 
happy having neither. The M12 is the canonical QB rack, IMO, but tastes 
vary. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com


On Friday, March 21, 2014 12:00:49 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
>
> Someone sell me a 54cm Quickbeam, an orange one if possible. (A 56 could 
> work too). 
>
> I am particular about two things: 
> Upper fork eyelets are a must have. 
> Kickstand plate is a must not have. 
>
> Thanks all :) - reply offlist 
> Jason 
> SF,CA 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[jimmy johnsen]

Patrick. Have any land speed/track records been broken on wire beads recently? 
If fat tires can be made lightweight I'll buy them. The Surly Knard 29x3 come 
in wire bead and folding. The wire version might last longer and have better 
protection but I'd much rather ride the lighter folding tire.They rotate 
quicker and have a sprinty/lively quality. What 44mm rims are you using? The 
Duallys? Have you tried the Surly Knard 700x41? I'm riding a heavy bike w. the 
Motos but if I can save some weight I will. 



On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:37 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
  
Thanks. 680 grams is 200 grams less than the original 700cX2.35 Big Apples, 
wire bead, and about 100 grams less than the "Litespeed" folding version. 

I may just try those some day. Right now I have the superest lighter-est 
Furious Freds on the Fargo, but they measure a paltry 55 mm on the 44 mm rims.  

With tubeless and Stan's the Super Moto should be fine.

Does wire bead really slow a tire down? How would it affect the factors that 
determine rolling resistance -- ie, if tread depth and material, and sidewall 
suppleness are the same for all? 

#2: if anyone wants to buy a pair of VG 622X2.35 Weirwolfs, I will sell the 
pair for $50 + shipping.



On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jimmy johnsen  wrote:

Patrick. The Schwalbe website list them as 680 grams. Aren't the Apples wire 
bead? I don't ride wire bead tires. I think they are slow. I use to ride sew 
ups or tubulars on the track and road. A folding tire comes closer to the feel 
and speed of a sew up and will always beat a wire bead. Jan has more of a 
vintage roadie mentality. Grant's vibe is more recreational rider. I can't 
believe Grant doesn't carry the Super Motos. I like speed and comfort, not 
drag. You might as well have fast tires. There are plenty of other things on a 
bike to slow you down. You don't need something holding you back. So have the 
fastest tires. The only tire Grant designed that I liked was the Fatty Rump and 
that didn't come close to the Hetres. Both on the trail and road the Hetres 
rolled much better then Rump. Did I say I really like the Super Motos? I 
inflate them super high for the road and never feel bumps because of the volume 
and width of my rims. Maybe it's
 the combo of all the components on my present ride that it handles so well. 
Finding the right mix can be a challenge. There is nothing wrong with going 
fast. I still enjoy what's going on around me, but just at a faster pace. I 
don't know how the Motos will handle on anything other then my rides which is a 
mix of dirt/ hard pack and road. Just my opinion. Hobie 
>
>
>
>On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>  
>Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that figure.
>
>
>If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice tire 
>for the sandy soils around here. 
>
>
>
>On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie  wrote:
>
>I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for gravel. 
>I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan especially in 
>the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of the bikes he 
>reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more choices is a good 
>thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it seems. So how they 
>design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I remember buying a wool long 
>sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because the turtleneck was to low. My 
>reason for returning was. "This won't work on the east coast". That was about 
>6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC this year he would know what I'm 
>talking about. Had to be the coldest winter ever. I think Grant even said he 
>doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned 
>is the Schwalbe Super Moto at 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. 
>I'm using the Motos on a Jeff
 Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the 
fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like an 
auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack of drag 
from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike move very very 
fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some hills the fastest 
ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have enough speed going into a 
climb and can sustain it, nothing has come close.  I've used this same bike w. 
Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff 
in the rear for east coast mtn. biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter 
bike for mtn biking. I presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are 
Blunt front, Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front and rear tires. 
Great, fast stable ride for tech. MTN biking. I'm using a 165mm crank because 
of the low BB on the
 ECR. BIG TIRES ARE SUPER MOTO!
>>
>>On Friday, March 14, 2014 8:59:31 AM UTC-4, stevef wrot

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

[Chris Chen]

Or the other way. Down.
On Mar 21, 2014 1:18 PM, "Bill Lindsay"  wrote:

> When Manny says "flat-ish", I think:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:51:21 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I know a route that is flatish, on a bike trail for most of it.
>> But it requires a creek crossing and carrying your bike up some stairs.
>> Maybe a walk up a hill. But it ends with an awesome rope swing!
>>
>> Here's the route. Short and sweet.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>>
>> Grant has a route he does before/after work. I vaguely know what that is.
>> Equally short with some climbs, walking and mellow single tracks.
>>
>> Vague route:
>> http://goo.gl/maps/88J7m
>>
>> Either is good. The Warhorse looks good btw. Excited to see you ride it.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wtb a quickbeam 54cm

[JL]

Yes. It almost certainly will. I was allowing for repaints or possible 
transition period models with green paint and fork eyelets (do those exist?). I 
don't know what it is about kickstands plates that bother me. I just don't like 
the aesthetics of the plate and never use a kickstand. I don't have an "out of 
sight, out of mind" personality. Rather, I get obsessive about small details.  
The m12 racks are slick but the 32F has the same finish as my nitto rear rack 
and would allow my to use Paul brakes without the rack being far out in front 
of the fork blades. 
The tragic thing is I could have bought one of two different beams a couple 
months back but I was too wishy washy about the details and they both got away. 
Oh well. I have plenty of time. :)

Jason


> On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Philip Williamson  
> wrote:
> 
> So that narrows it to an orange one, right? 
> Green Quickbeams = no extra mid-fork eyelets, no kickstand plate
> Orange Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, no kickstand plate
> Silver Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, yes kickstand plate
> 
> Personally, I'd take a kickstand plate over the extraneous eyelets, but I'm 
> happy having neither. The M12 is the canonical QB rack, IMO, but tastes vary. 
> 
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
> 
> 
>> On Friday, March 21, 2014 12:00:49 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
>> Someone sell me a 54cm Quickbeam, an orange one if possible. (A 56 could 
>> work too). 
>> 
>> I am particular about two things: 
>> Upper fork eyelets are a must have. 
>> Kickstand plate is a must not have. 
>> 
>> Thanks all :) - reply offlist 
>> Jason 
>> SF,CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Patrick Moore]

Furious Freds, at a true 360 grams? Labeled 50 but measure 55 on my SnoCat
SuperLites.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM, jimmy johnsen  wrote:

> Patrick. Have any land speed/track records been broken on wire beads
> recently? If fat tires can be made lightweight I'll buy them. The Surly
> Knard 29x3 come in wire bead and folding. The wire version might last
> longer and have better protection but I'd much rather ride the lighter
> folding tire.They rotate quicker and have a sprinty/lively quality. What
> 44mm rims are you using? The Duallys? Have you tried the Surly Knard
> 700x41? I'm riding a heavy bike w. the Motos but if I can save some weight
> I will.
>
>
>   On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:37 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>  Thanks. 680 grams is 200 grams less than the original 700cX2.35 Big
> Apples, wire bead, and about 100 grams less than the "Litespeed" folding
> version.
>
> I may just try those some day. Right now I have the superest lighter-est
> Furious Freds on the Fargo, but they measure a paltry 55 mm on the 44 mm
> rims.
>
> With tubeless and Stan's the Super Moto should be fine.
>
> Does wire bead really slow a tire down? How would it affect the factors
> that determine rolling resistance -- ie, if tread depth and material, and
> sidewall suppleness are the same for all?
>
> #2: if anyone wants to buy a pair of VG 622X2.35 Weirwolfs, I will sell
> the pair for $50 + shipping.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 1:28 PM, jimmy johnsen  wrote:
>
> Patrick. The Schwalbe website list them as 680 grams. Aren't the Apples
> wire bead? I don't ride wire bead tires. I think they are slow. I use to
> ride sew ups or tubulars on the track and road. A folding tire comes closer
> to the feel and speed of a sew up and will always beat a wire bead. Jan has
> more of a vintage roadie mentality. Grant's vibe is more recreational
> rider. I can't believe Grant doesn't carry the Super Motos. I like speed
> and comfort, not drag. You might as well have fast tires. There are plenty
> of other things on a bike to slow you down. You don't need something
> holding you back. So have the fastest tires. The only tire Grant designed
> that I liked was the Fatty Rump and that didn't come close to the Hetres.
> Both on the trail and road the Hetres rolled much better then Rump. Did I
> say I really like the Super Motos? I inflate them super high for the road
> and never feel bumps because of the volume and width of my rims. Maybe it's
> the combo of all the components on my present ride that it handles so well.
> Finding the right mix can be a challenge. There is nothing wrong with going
> fast. I still enjoy what's going on around me, but just at a faster pace. I
> don't know how the Motos will handle on anything other then my rides which
> is a mix of dirt/ hard pack and road. Just my opinion. Hobie
>
>
>   On Friday, March 21, 2014 2:57 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>  Hobie: do you know how much this tire weighs? I couldn't find that
> figure.
>
> If it is sufficiently lighter than the Big Apple, it will be a very nice
> tire for the sandy soils around here.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 12:44 PM, hobie  wrote:
>
> I think the Hetres 650b tires are fantastic! Very fast, plenty fat for
> gravel. I like what Jan is doing. I'd like to see fatter tires from Jan
> especially in the 29/700 size. Say 29x2.0. I doubt he will because most of
> the bikes he reviews or rides can only handle up to 40mm? Having more
> choices is a good thing. Both Jan and Grant do ride different terrain it
> seems. So how they design a tire has a lot to do with their hood. I
> remember buying a wool long sleeve jersey from Riv and returning it because
> the turtleneck was to low. My reason for returning was. "This won't work on
> the east coast". That was about 6 years ago. If Grant could have ridden NYC
> this year he would know what I'm talking about. Had to be the coldest
> winter ever. I think Grant even said he doesn't know "COLD".   My favorite
> tire of all and it's rarely ever mentioned is the Schwalbe Super Moto at
> 29x2.35. Very big tires but super super fast. I'm using the Motos on a Jeff
> Jones Diamond frame w. a Rohloff rear/ Paul 135mm front hub. This is the
> fastest most stable ride ever. Once up to speed the bike motors along like
> an auto. It's kinda like the A-10 bomber. The straight chain line and lack
> of drag from a cassette, derailler, precise shifting etc makes this bike
> move very very fast. The bike is not lightweight but I've gotten up some
> hills the fastest ever in my life time. Some hills, not all. If I have
> enough speed going into a climb and can sustain it, nothing has come
> close.  I've used this same bike w. Maxxis Ardent 2.4 front and rear in the
> woods. The extra weight of the Rohloff in the rear for east coast mtn.
> biking is very noticeable. I prefer a lighter bike for mtn biking. I
> presently have a Surly ECR for mtn. biking. The rims are Blunt front,
> Pacenti DL 31 rear/ Hadley SS 5 cogs. Knard front

Re: [RBW] Re: Wtb a quickbeam 54cm

[Dan Abelson]

I wonder how many Orange 54cm Quickbeams are out there? I would not be
surprised if it is around 10 or so.

Dan Abelson
(who has an orange 54cm Quickbeam and can't imagine selling it).
On Mar 21, 2014 4:24 PM, "JL"  wrote:

> Yes. It almost certainly will. I was allowing for repaints or possible
> transition period models with green paint and fork eyelets (do those
> exist?). I don't know what it is about kickstands plates that bother me. I
> just don't like the aesthetics of the plate and never use a kickstand. I
> don't have an "out of sight, out of mind" personality. Rather, I get
> obsessive about small details.
> The m12 racks are slick but the 32F has the same finish as my nitto rear
> rack and would allow my to use Paul brakes without the rack being far out
> in front of the fork blades.
> The tragic thing is I could have bought one of two different beams a
> couple months back but I was too wishy washy about the details and they
> both got away. Oh well. I have plenty of time. :)
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Philip Williamson <
> philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So that narrows it to an orange one, right?
>
> Green Quickbeams = no extra mid-fork eyelets, no kickstand plate
> Orange Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, no kickstand plate
> Silver Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, yes kickstand plate
>
>
> Personally, I'd take a kickstand plate over the extraneous eyelets, but
> I'm happy having neither. The M12 is the canonical QB rack, IMO, but tastes
> vary.
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
>
> On Friday, March 21, 2014 12:00:49 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
>>
>> Someone sell me a 54cm Quickbeam, an orange one if possible. (A 56 could
>> work too).
>>
>> I am particular about two things:
>> Upper fork eyelets are a must have.
>> Kickstand plate is a must not have.
>>
>> Thanks all :) - reply offlist
>> Jason
>> SF,CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wtb a quickbeam 54cm

[JL]

Ohhh.  I'm looking for a prized pony.  That is fun. The thrill of the chase!  

Jason

> On Mar 21, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Dan Abelson  wrote:
> 
> I wonder how many Orange 54cm Quickbeams are out there? I would not be 
> surprised if it is around 10 or so.
> 
> Dan Abelson
> (who has an orange 54cm Quickbeam and can't imagine selling it).
> 
>> On Mar 21, 2014 4:24 PM, "JL"  wrote:
>> Yes. It almost certainly will. I was allowing for repaints or possible 
>> transition period models with green paint and fork eyelets (do those 
>> exist?). I don't know what it is about kickstands plates that bother me. I 
>> just don't like the aesthetics of the plate and never use a kickstand. I 
>> don't have an "out of sight, out of mind" personality. Rather, I get 
>> obsessive about small details.  
>> The m12 racks are slick but the 32F has the same finish as my nitto rear 
>> rack and would allow my to use Paul brakes without the rack being far out in 
>> front of the fork blades. 
>> The tragic thing is I could have bought one of two different beams a couple 
>> months back but I was too wishy washy about the details and they both got 
>> away. Oh well. I have plenty of time. :)
>> 
>> Jason
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 21, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Philip Williamson 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So that narrows it to an orange one, right? 
>>> Green Quickbeams = no extra mid-fork eyelets, no kickstand plate
>>> Orange Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, no kickstand plate
>>> Silver Quickbeam = yes extra eyelets, yes kickstand plate
>>> 
>>> Personally, I'd take a kickstand plate over the extraneous eyelets, but I'm 
>>> happy having neither. The M12 is the canonical QB rack, IMO, but tastes 
>>> vary. 
>>> 
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
>>> 
>>> 
 On Friday, March 21, 2014 12:00:49 PM UTC-7, JL wrote:
 Someone sell me a 54cm Quickbeam, an orange one if possible. (A 56 could 
 work too). 
 
 I am particular about two things: 
 Upper fork eyelets are a must have. 
 Kickstand plate is a must not have. 
 
 Thanks all :) - reply offlist 
 Jason 
 SF,CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

[James Warren]

Does anyone know if the ride's gonna happen. I'm thinking of leaving early enough to get there from Los Angeles (if possible.)-Jim W.-Original Message-
From: Chris Chen 
Sent: Mar 21, 2014 1:56 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

Or the other way. Down. 
On Mar 21, 2014 1:18 PM, "Bill Lindsay"  wrote:
When Manny says "flat-ish", I think:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:51:21 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
I know a route that is flatish, on a bike trail for most of it. 
But it requires a creek crossing and carrying your bike up some stairs.Maybe a walk up a hill. But it ends with an awesome rope swing!Here's the route. Short and sweet. 
http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4YGrant has a route he does before/after work. I vaguely know what that is. Equally short with some climbs, walking and mellow single tracks. 
Vague route: http://goo.gl/maps/88J7mEither is good. The Warhorse looks good btw. Excited to see you ride it.
 
 



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[RBW] Re: FS - Dura Ace 7400 Group

[Mike K.]

New Photos on the Flickr Stream: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/120965275@N06/sets/72157642650175245/

Also, taking everything down anphotographing it, I realize the $700 might 
be a little high. Knocking it to $600 plus actual shipping for the whole 
group. Again, the set functions extremely well, just has the scuffs that 
came with it as I pieced it all together. It served me well, but like I 
said, I'm after a different breed of bike.

Lastly, the Brooks Cambium is sold.

Thanks folks.

- Mike
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:49:01 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:
>
> I have a Dura Ace 7400 group including a wheelset with cassette for sale. 
> I had it on a mid 80's Centurion, but trying to sell it to buy the Sam of 
> my dreams.
>
> Includes:
> 7410 Crankset, 39/53
> VO 103mm Bottom bracket for above crank - sealed cartridge, maybe 100 
> miles on it
> 7403 Brakes
> 7402 Brake levers
> 7402 Rear derailleur
> 7400 Front derailleur
> 7400 Hubs laced to Matrix Rims, 32-spoke
> Dura Ace Hyperglide 8-speed Cassette, 13-23
> BS7700 Bar End Shifters with Pods and downtube cable stops
>
> Asking $700 for the whole thing. I will upload pictures tonight, just 
> wanted to see if there was any interest right now. It is all used and has 
> some scuffs, but it's all in great shape. The hubs look perfect. Rims have 
> some brake wear. This would be a great fit on a Roadeo, I think, or any 
> steel roadie. Can take Paypal payment. Will figure out shipping based on if 
> the entire lot is sold or parted out. Would prefer to sell the whole thing 
> to the same person, but I realize that may not happen.
>
> I also have a Brooks Cambium for $150. Wanted to give it a shot. Just not 
> quite my cup of tea. I'm going to stick with leather. Plus $10 shipping 
> CONUS.
>
> Just found these pictures from my phone. Will upload individual shots of 
> the components later. http://www.flickr.com/photos/120965275@N06/
>
> Thanks!
> - Mike
>

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[RBW] Rivendell Chica Warrior Ride. Tomorrow! (3/22)

[Manuel Acosta]

Just got off the phone with the one and only RCW directly from her 
temporary outpost at Riv BBH.
Confirmed ride tomorrow. 3/22
Meet at Riv HQ at 11ish for a mellow ramble abouts.

Proposed route involved some short city riding, mellow bike path riding, 
then some creek crossing, stairs and rope swing action.
http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y

Making coffee on this ride will be a must so bring your preferred method of 
coffee brewing. 

Pretty mellow ride by "mannybiking" standards. Apparently I have a 
reputation for "underestimating the grueling factor". 

Far from grueling. Super mellow and chill.

Hope to see ya'll there!


Manny " I plan mellow rides!" Acosta



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[RBW] Re: Leaping onto an Atlantis

[Michael]

>
> At $4,000 the Atlantis costs $16.60 a month over 20 year period. (4k$)
>
 
Or, if one opts for a less expensive, but same genre-ed bike: 

Surly LHT: $5.41  a month over 20 year period. (1300$)

If I had the intention of riding the bike for the rest of my life, I'd skip 
the coffee shop a coupla times a month and get the Atlantis!!

But only if it is a *new, built by RBW*, Atlantis we are talking about.



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[RBW] Re: FS - Dura Ace 7400 Group

[Mike K.]

Lastly, the brake levers are 7401, not 02 like I originally posted. I don't 
even know if they made 7402 levers...

Oy vey. So many numbers! 

On Thursday, March 20, 2014 2:49:01 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:
>
> I have a Dura Ace 7400 group including a wheelset with cassette for sale. 
> I had it on a mid 80's Centurion, but trying to sell it to buy the Sam of 
> my dreams.
>
> Includes:
> 7410 Crankset, 39/53
> VO 103mm Bottom bracket for above crank - sealed cartridge, maybe 100 
> miles on it
> 7403 Brakes
> 7402 Brake levers
> 7402 Rear derailleur
> 7400 Front derailleur
> 7400 Hubs laced to Matrix Rims, 32-spoke
> Dura Ace Hyperglide 8-speed Cassette, 13-23
> BS7700 Bar End Shifters with Pods and downtube cable stops
>
> Asking $700 for the whole thing. I will upload pictures tonight, just 
> wanted to see if there was any interest right now. It is all used and has 
> some scuffs, but it's all in great shape. The hubs look perfect. Rims have 
> some brake wear. This would be a great fit on a Roadeo, I think, or any 
> steel roadie. Can take Paypal payment. Will figure out shipping based on if 
> the entire lot is sold or parted out. Would prefer to sell the whole thing 
> to the same person, but I realize that may not happen.
>
> I also have a Brooks Cambium for $150. Wanted to give it a shot. Just not 
> quite my cup of tea. I'm going to stick with leather. Plus $10 shipping 
> CONUS.
>
> Just found these pictures from my phone. Will upload individual shots of 
> the components later. http://www.flickr.com/photos/120965275@N06/
>
> Thanks!
> - Mike
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday

[Manuel Acosta]

Happening. 
Details:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/E3ji92w0A9g/Oy447znZ9-cJ

Manny

On Friday, March 21, 2014 3:19:38 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know if the ride's gonna happen. I'm thinking of leaving early 
> enough to get there from Los Angeles (if possible.)
>
> -Jim W.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Chen 
> Sent: Mar 21, 2014 1:56 PM 
> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Chica Warrior Custom at RivHQ/BBH this Saturday 
>
> Or the other way. Down. 
> On Mar 21, 2014 1:18 PM, "Bill Lindsay" > 
> wrote:
>
>> When Manny says "flat-ish", I think:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014 9:51:21 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>>
>>>
 I know a route that is flatish, on a bike trail for most of it. 
>>> But it requires a creek crossing and carrying your bike up some stairs.
>>> Maybe a walk up a hill. But it ends with an awesome rope swing!
>>>
>>> Here's the route. Short and sweet. 
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>>>
>>> Grant has a route he does before/after work. I vaguely know what that 
>>> is. Equally short with some climbs, walking and mellow single tracks. 
>>>
>>> Vague route: 
>>> http://goo.gl/maps/88J7m
>>>
>>> Either is good. The Warhorse looks good btw. Excited to see you ride it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
  

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[RBW] Re: Hanging vs Platform Hitch Bike Carriers

[Anton Tutter]

I have both roof-mounted bike racks (Yakima) and a 1.25" hitch mount 
'hanging' style rack (Thule).  I've never tried a platform hitch rack, but 
I'm guessing that style would keep the bikes happier.  The Thule has an 
anti-sway mechanism by way of a hinge-down third clamp that secures the 
seat tube.  It prevents about 90% of the sway.  However, what I don't like 
about the hanging racks is that unless you use some sort of rag or piece of 
foam between the arms and your bike's frame, it's easy to get scratching. 
 At least that's what I've observed with the Thule.  Maybe the Saris or 
Yakima are better, I don't know.  Also keep in mind that if you have a 
small car, all that extra weight back there will cause stability problems 
driving.  It creates a cantilever effect, so even though a fully loaded 
rack with four bikes might only weigh 150lb, it feels like a lot more 
because farther behind the rear axle than weight you might have in the 
trunk.  With a larger car, this might not have as much of an impact, but 
with my current car (Mazda5) and former car (Mazda3) I definitely felt it. 
 The platform mounts will be even heavier than the hanging mounts. Also 
keep in ming that having all those bikes on any hitch rack makes it 
difficult to access the rear hatch (if not a sedan).

Three bikes on the roof?  I never feel an effect on the car's stability. 
 But I agree it's a chore hoisting them up there. On the other hand, I also 
don't have to finagle around with rags and bungee cords to make sure the 
bikes don't get scratched up.

Anton

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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[RJM]

>
> I can't stand wire beads...much prefer a folding bead.
>



Just installed the Stampede Pass onto my Roadeo, first ride on Sunday. The 
look much better than the 25mm Continental tires I had on it. 

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Chica Warrior Ride. Tomorrow! (3/22)

[Chris Chen]

He's lying, you're all going to hug your loved ones REALLY HARD when you
get home.

But have a great time anyway

xoxo

Chenny


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Manuel Acosta  wrote:

> Just got off the phone with the one and only RCW directly from her
> temporary outpost at Riv BBH.
> Confirmed ride tomorrow. 3/22
> Meet at Riv HQ at 11ish for a mellow ramble abouts.
>
> Proposed route involved some short city riding, mellow bike path riding,
> then some creek crossing, stairs and rope swing action.
> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>
> Making coffee on this ride will be a must so bring your preferred method
> of coffee brewing.
>
> Pretty mellow ride by "mannybiking" standards. Apparently I have a
> reputation for "underestimating the grueling factor".
>
> Far from grueling. Super mellow and chill.
>
> Hope to see ya'll there!
>
>
> Manny " I plan mellow rides!" Acosta
>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Back Rack The Next Generation

[Ron Mc]

I bought this from Ben's 3 weeks ago



I found a good online coupon and they were selling at a lower than now, so 
I was resigned to either one, but was happy to get the new one.  


On Friday, March 21, 2014 7:55:57 PM UTC-5, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> So after fitting larger tires on my Hilsen I realized that I needed the 
> 33R rather than the 32R (the fenders were hitting the rack and rubbing 
> against the Clement MSOs...
>
> I knew the 33R was sold at at RBW, but I didn't care to get the new 
> version, so I went looking on Ye Old Internet, Ben's Cycle has 'em for 
> sale, so I figured why not, get some new old stock.
>
> Surprise when this arrives... 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Patrick Moore]

I still don't get how the bead affects the ride quality, whether for
comfort or speed. Can anyone explain? From Jan's testing it would seem that
the principal variable by an order of magnitude is casing construction.

But I'd like to know if it does, 'cuz if it does, I need to swap out the
wire bead Kojaks on the '03 for folding ones.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 6:52 PM, RJM  wrote:

> I can't stand wire beads...much prefer a folding bead.
>>
>
>
>
> Just installed the Stampede Pass onto my Roadeo, first ride on Sunday. The
> look much better than the 25mm Continental tires I had on it.
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[RBW] Re: Nanoreview, Barlow Pass 700x38C on Dyad

[frank_a]

Mine measure 38.04 on a Mavic A719 rim. I tried them on an Open Pro and it 
was just over 36.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13191717294/

- Frank

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 9:01:06 PM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Measures out to 34mm right now, but that might change.
>
> I'm gonna go out for a ride.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Joe Broach]

All,

I don't see how a wire bead could affect performance beyond the slight
weight difference. It just so happens most supple sidewall, thin tread
tires are folding bead. At least I think so.

Best,
joe


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:52 PM, RJM  wrote:

> I can't stand wire beads...much prefer a folding bead.
>>
>
>
>
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> look much better than the 25mm Continental tires I had on it.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on tires

[Patrick Moore]

That makes sense to me, too.


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Joe Broach  wrote:

> All,
>
> I don't see how a wire bead could affect performance beyond the slight
> weight difference. It just so happens most supple sidewall, thin tread
> tires are folding bead. At least I think so.
>
> Best,
> joe
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 5:52 PM, RJM  wrote:
>
>>  I can't stand wire beads...much prefer a folding bead.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Just installed the Stampede Pass onto my Roadeo, first ride on Sunday.
>> The look much better than the 25mm Continental tires I had on it.
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[RBW] New Bike Day - Lavendar Saluki!

[Tony DeFilippo]

http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-bike-day.html

I'm quite satisfied to say that I've introduced another Riv to the East 
Coast (to offset the big Atlantis I sent to Portland)... I got the bike 
together and out for a quick test ride this afternoon and was grinning from 
ear to ear.  It fits, it looks great, it rides as good as any bike I've 
ridden before... very stable and compared to my recent bikes (Atlantis, 
Trek 650B, XO-3) is quite spritely.  I've got some riding plans for the 
weekend and will be sharing alot more pictures for sure.

Still not 100% on the color, but I'm going to enjoy it a bit before I make 
any decisions on that front.  Thanks very much to Amy for making this sale 
work and taking such great care of the bike for the past 8 or 9 years!





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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lavendar Saluki!

[Michael Williams]

Dude Tony,  rock the lavender!   One of a kind color!   -Mike


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-bike-day.html
>
> I'm quite satisfied to say that I've introduced another Riv to the East
> Coast (to offset the big Atlantis I sent to Portland)... I got the bike
> together and out for a quick test ride this afternoon and was grinning from
> ear to ear.  It fits, it looks great, it rides as good as any bike I've
> ridden before... very stable and compared to my recent bikes (Atlantis,
> Trek 650B, XO-3) is quite spritely.  I've got some riding plans for the
> weekend and will be sharing alot more pictures for sure.
>
> Still not 100% on the color, but I'm going to enjoy it a bit before I make
> any decisions on that front.  Thanks very much to Amy for making this sale
> work and taking such great care of the bike for the past 8 or 9 years!
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Re: [RBW] New Bike Day - Lavendar Saluki!

[cyclotourist]

What Mike said.

Cheers,
David

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On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Michael Williams  wrote:

> Dude Tony,  rock the lavender!   One of a kind color!   -Mike
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:46 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:
>
>> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-bike-day.html
>>
>> I'm quite satisfied to say that I've introduced another Riv to the East
>> Coast (to offset the big Atlantis I sent to Portland)... I got the bike
>> together and out for a quick test ride this afternoon and was grinning from
>> ear to ear.  It fits, it looks great, it rides as good as any bike I've
>> ridden before... very stable and compared to my recent bikes (Atlantis,
>> Trek 650B, XO-3) is quite spritely.  I've got some riding plans for the
>> weekend and will be sharing alot more pictures for sure.
>>
>> Still not 100% on the color, but I'm going to enjoy it a bit before I
>> make any decisions on that front.  Thanks very much to Amy for making this
>> sale work and taking such great care of the bike for the past 8 or 9 years!
>>
>>
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Chica Warrior Ride. Tomorrow! (3/22)

[Cecily Walker]

So envious. Have a great time, y'all!

On Friday, March 21, 2014 4:12:45 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Just got off the phone with the one and only RCW directly from her 
> temporary outpost at Riv BBH.
> Confirmed ride tomorrow. 3/22
> Meet at Riv HQ at 11ish for a mellow ramble abouts.
>
> Proposed route involved some short city riding, mellow bike path riding, 
> then some creek crossing, stairs and rope swing action.
> http://goo.gl/maps/2oo4Y
>
> Making coffee on this ride will be a must so bring your preferred method 
> of coffee brewing. 
>
> Pretty mellow ride by "mannybiking" standards. Apparently I have a 
> reputation for "underestimating the grueling factor". 
>
> Far from grueling. Super mellow and chill.
>
> Hope to see ya'll there!
>
>
> Manny " I plan mellow rides!" Acosta
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Saddlesack Medium and Biking to School

[LeahFoy]

Well, I don't know what came over me just now. I found myself pecking out my 
credit card info on Riv's site for a new Saddlesack Medium in tan. I don't even 
know how I settled on tan. Wait, yes I do - I flipped through the Group's photo 
pool and noted that the bikes similar in paint to my Betty Foy looked bright 
and lively with the tan; I felt the olive color looked heavy and separate from 
the bike - like it would not complement my bike but rather compete for its own 
attention. (Though on the orange or green bikes olive really was spectacular.) 
Probably nobody else even understands what I'm prattling on about, which is why 
I took the precaution of writing to Riv in the notes: "I chose the tan because 
it brightened bikes similar in color to my Betty Foy and looked lively. If you 
disagree and think olive is better, please call me and get me to come to my 
senses."

Well, it's done. I have no great need for such a bag on my short commutes to my 
sons' school, but I am a shameless bag hound of the worst kind. And there you 
have it.

That brings me to school biking. I've mentioned before on here about the 
traffic snarl at the school. It truly brings out the worst in people - even me! 
Routinely, people park and block access to the sidewalk (yes, it's legal to for 
bikes to ride on them here, and with 2 kids - 1 who is on a tiny 16 inch wheel 
bike - I certainly use them) by parking across the sidewalk. I've started 
leaving notes on cars, knocking on windows, calling traffic enforcement. Some 
poor child will get hit after being forced off the sidewalk into the busy 
street; it really is a matter of time. It's been very frustrating but then 
today happened: I was stopped by a MOM on a BIKE! This is a brand new thing! 
She lives a few houses away from me and decided she was going to bike commute 
with her child (who is still on training wheels). She was riding a Lemond road 
bike with drop bars and none of the Rivish accoutrements. She was admiring 
things on my bike (mostly my dog) but maybe I can send Grant some new business. 
If not, he'll just have to be happy with my reckless order from tonight. ;)

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - Lavendar Saluki!

[Joe Bernard]

I love the color, but I like pink bikes, too, so I'm biased!

Joe "80s fade paintjobs forever" Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Friday, March 21, 2014 8:46:11 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

> http://dr2dc.blogspot.com/2014/03/new-bike-day.html
>
> I'm quite satisfied to say that I've introduced another Riv to the East 
> Coast (to offset the big Atlantis I sent to Portland)... I got the bike 
> together and out for a quick test ride this afternoon and was grinning from 
> ear to ear.  It fits, it looks great, it rides as good as any bike I've 
> ridden before... very stable and compared to my recent bikes (Atlantis, 
> Trek 650B, XO-3) is quite spritely.  I've got some riding plans for the 
> weekend and will be sharing alot more pictures for sure.
>
> Still not 100% on the color, but I'm going to enjoy it a bit before I make 
> any decisions on that front.  Thanks very much to Amy for making this sale 
> work and taking such great care of the bike for the past 8 or 9 years!
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike Day - Lavendar Saluki!

[Michael]

A big congrats to you, Tony!!
Hope I can see it in person one day.
Looking forward to close-ups!

Are you thinking of Hetres for it?

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