[RBW] WTB: Nitto Tallux 8cm stem

[Brencho]

See subject line! Shoot me an email if you have a tallux 8cm stem with a 
26mm clamp laying around that you're not using. I'll pay you hard earned 
cash for it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[Tim]

Ahh, rando! With 2015 PBP as my goal I'm at it this year. My last brevet was a 
300k DNF in 2011. I abandoned after157 miles. I rode 175 miles 2 weeks later 
although not a sanctioned brevet. I think it's over 50% mental because at some 
point in a ride that long you will almost certainly not feel so great. I'm 
registered for 200k and 300k brevets on Long Island in May. Then eyeing 400k 
and 600k rides in Boston. I've lost around 35 lbs since Christmas (that's about 
10 lbs more than my Hilsen weighs!) and feeling good. The longer rides are 
giving me anxiety, especially after the DNF. But as frightening as it is it is 
equally exciting!

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[RBW] Re: Remember the Turtles?

[Tony DeFilippo]

I grew up obsessed with turtles and it all started with a pet store red eared 
slider i named Turk.  At one point I had over a dozen 'guest' turtles I had 
caught locally in VA or down in NC... All eventually making their way back to 
the wild.  Thanks for sharing!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[Tony DeFilippo]

PBP is such a cool goal!  Good luck with your SR series.  Sounds like your
of to a great start with all the weight loss.

I'm not able to figure out how to carve the time needed for the super long
events, both training and the actual for score brevets but I have so much
respect for those who do!

Tony

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Re: [RBW] Wet 300k

[jimD]

Ha!
JimD
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On Mar 31, 2014, at 8:32 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> It gets more mental than physical after a while.  Sometimes it's a fine line 
> between having enough caffeine to stay awake but not so much one has a panic 
> attack.
> 
> On Mar 31, 2014 7:05 PM, "Michael"  wrote:
> Wow!! I don't know how you Rando-peeps can go so far! That is amazing.
>  
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv on tires. LOL!

[Ron Mc]

It makes absolute total sense that you need different saddles for different 
riding positions.  The people who don't like it either don't fit it or are 
misapplying it.  On another board a guy was bad-mouthing his B17 which he 
moved from road race bike to road race bike over several years and never 
"broke it in".  His clue is that unless he has particularly wide pelvis 
bones, it's the wrong saddle for a race bike.  

On Monday, March 31, 2014 10:45:55 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> What if you feel like the Brooks works better on some bikes than others?  
> Then you really put the possessive in "your mileage may vary"...?
> On Mar 28, 2014 10:04 PM, "Ron Mc" > 
> wrote:
>
> I was certainly joking, but it's always "your mileage may vary" because we 
> all makes our choices on our perceptions of function - some people don't 
> like Brooks B17 (I'm Not one of those).  
>
>
> On Friday, March 28, 2014 2:15:56 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Ron, so were you joking above or just using "empirical" as a synonym for 
>> "objective"?  Clearly you don't mean that there is NOTHING objective.  My 
>> top tube is objectively 28.6mm in diameter.  I objectively rode my road 
>> bike 3.6 miles from the car repair shop to my office.  I subjectively 
>> enjoyed myself.  The bike subjectively felt fast to me.  My Bombadil is 
>> objectively heavier than my road bike and objectively slower with a given 
>> effort.  Subjectively I sometimes prefer to ride the Bombadil and sometimes 
>> I prefer to ride my road bike.  Just because people have different personal 
>> preferences doesn't mean that there are no objectively measureable 
>> quantities in the world of cycling.  Personal preference is subjective, 
>> that's for sure.  I can't tell you what you prefer, and you can't tell me 
>> what I prefer.  But there are plenty of aspects of cycling that are 
>> objectively measureable.  Those objective truths don't have to force your 
>> preference, but your preference doesn't change the measurements either. 
>>  You just like what you like.  
>>
>> Maybe what you mean is that there is nothing in cycling that is both 
>> purely qualitative and objective.  Everybody makes qualitative judgments 
>> for themselves, subjectively.  If that's what you meant, then I agree with 
>> you.  
>>
>> Sorry for delving into Philosophical Phriday.  I'm going to sneak out for 
>> a short ride on my lunch-hour
>>
>> On Friday, March 28, 2014 11:46:24 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill is pretty accurate there, but I think the truth is nothing is 
>>> objective in cycling.  It's all subjective.  And that's OK.  We make our 
>>> choices for the function we desire.  
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

[C.J. Filip]

Having discovered the joys of riding a cross-ish setup bike ('86 B-stone 
T700 w/ mustache bars) on our local offroad offerings, a 40-32 XD double 
just arrived from Rivbike for the S1.  I think the fatter tires than 27x1 
3/8" and the simpler nature of gearing will make it tons o fun offroad. 

On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:35:27 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> How would a QB/SO be as a single speed mountain bike? What are the tire 
> clearances and what knobbies are there within that clearance?
>
> I’m just playing and dreaming with where my riding has gone and wondering 
> how it meshes with the single speed dream.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[Deacon Patrick]

Speaking of the long rides, the lass at Lovely Bicycle is Brevat ready and 
writing poetry about 
it! http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2014/04/brevet-ready.html

With abandon,
Patrick


 

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[RBW] Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Deacon Patrick]

When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him (his 
name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on it's his 
responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it's your own fault. 
Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can count my falls on 
one hand despite technical trail riding, he's lived up to his name!) -- 
anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But in the ensuing 
time, I've learned that on roads there are people and their insidious noise 
machines far more often than there are on single track. I've also learned the 
weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style riding and bikepacking. So my 
plan, as budget allows, is to convert Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack 
beastie and here is the plan:

Tires:
I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.

Fenders:
I've dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie 
friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25".

Handlebars:
You've seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to a 
bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a 
bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.

Saddle:
Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get weight 
back on steep descents. Recommendations here?

Cassette:
Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding to be 
done in the middle ring (36t).

Front Deraileure:
Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain 
Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. 
Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my Sugino 
170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing for riding 
mountain trails with touring load.

Any and all inputs welcome.

I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is. With 
my road setup I've ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail 
(technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails when 
properly set up? 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Remember the Turtles?

[EGNolan]

>
> Thanks for the reminder! I've got a friend about 25 miles away that has 4 
> tortoises (bigguns) and a whole turtle room in his house. This is the time 
> of year to hang out with the big boys, they get pretty active in early 
> Spring. Looks like I'll have to find the time for a 50 mile day w/ my son 
> soon...
>
 
Best,
Eric
Indpls 

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

[Avery Wilson]

I'll second the El Mariachi recommendation.  I've got a second generation 
steel El Mariachi with the sliding dropouts. I had it set up as a single 
speed for awhile, then built up a wheel around a Shimano Nexus 3 speed 
internal hub, which I treat like a single speed with a bail out gear, and a 
go-fast gear.  Everybody said it wouldn't work, or that it would break, but 
its awesome.  Most fun I've ever had on a mountain bike.

Avery

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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[Jim D Massachusetts]

I also found this thread very helpful. The pictures were great. Thank you 
all for the effort.   Jim D Massachusetts

On Monday, March 31, 2014 12:51:35 PM UTC-4, John Philip wrote:
>
> Here's a pic where you can see both the Woodchipper and the Midge. I like 
> them both.  For me, all day comfort on the Woodchipper  and great control 
> on the trails with the Midge. 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cnyriv/9477366535/in/set-72157635006896939 
> On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:48:28 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Casey and Philip,
>>
>> You have me intrigued with the flared off-road drops. For the Sparrow and 
>> wood chipper and On One Midge, is the cruising position in the flats on 
>> top, as on a road bike? Do they take road levers? What is the difference 
>> with different types of aluminum?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>>
>>> I love flared off-road drops for exactly the reasons you mention.
>>>
>>> Philip
>>> www.biketinker.com
>>>
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[RBW] Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Avery Wilson]

Hello Group!

My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past 
year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.

I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web 
specials from last year). 

See a pic here .

I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I 
love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, 
etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of 
88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the 
picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)

If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an 
AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange 
Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. 
The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day 
rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've 
got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double 
top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!  

It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use 
the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have 
any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great, 
but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike 
again, thus I consider the 63...

General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!


Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[cyclotourist]

They all sound like well thought out changes for a more dirt-oriented bike.
If you go w/ the Bullmoose type bar, you're going to be less upright, and a
B17 should work really well. You can slide back on those pretty easily. I
found that I still wanted a bit more mobility on the saddle, and actually
went to a Swift.

Cheers,
David

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him
> (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on
> it's his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it's your
> own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can
> count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he's lived up to
> his name!) -- anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But
> in the ensuing time, I've learned that on roads there are people and their
> insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track.
> I've also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style
> riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert
> Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan:
>
> Tires:
> I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.
>
> Fenders:
> I've dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie
> friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25".
>
> Handlebars:
> You've seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to
> a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a
> bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.
>
> Saddle:
> Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get
> weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here?
>
> Cassette:
> Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding
> to be done in the middle ring (36t).
>
> Front Deraileure:
> Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain
> Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed.
> Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my
> Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing
> for riding mountain trails with touring load.
>
> Any and all inputs welcome.
>
> I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is.
> With my road setup I've ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail
> (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails
> when properly set up?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
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Re: [RBW] Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[cyclotourist]

Hi Avery, the bike looks great! Sams have a sloping top tube, so you're
going to have more post showing than on a Homer. As pictured, it looks fine.

FYI, I have an 89 PBH and ride 60 to 61cm Riv frames happily. For me having
the the top tube length dialed in at 590mm (+/-5mm) is what I look for. A
60cm Sam would be really long for me.

Cheers,
David

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 8:21 AM, Avery Wilson  wrote:

> Hello Group!
>
> My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past
> year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.
>
> I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web
> specials from last year).
>
> See a pic here .
>
> I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I
> love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics,
> etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of
> 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the
> picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)
>
> If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an
> AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange
> Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all.
> The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day
> rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've
> got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double
> top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!
>
> It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use
> the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have
> any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great,
> but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike
> again, thus I consider the 63...
>
> General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!
>
>
> Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson
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[RBW] WTT - My 42cm Noodles for your 46 or 48cm Noodles

[Mike K.]

Good morning,
I have a set of 42cm Noodle bars I bought to try them out, but I need 
something a little wider. They are clean with minimal wear - the typical 
zigzag lines from mounting the brake levers. I'll ship you mine if you ship 
me yours.

If no one has Noodles to offer, I'm very interested in Boscos as well.

Thanks!
Mike in Austin

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[RBW] Re: FS 50 cm Silver Quickbeam -$1500

[Karen Yuen]

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[RBW] Re: Bosco Bullmoose Bars

[Jeff Ong]

I have Midge bars and Sparrow bars, and they're very different animals. The 
Midges feel like flared drops, with several usable hand positions, and they 
take road brake levers and bar-end shifters. The Sparrows really only have 
one hand position, at the ends, and are more like Dove or Albatross bars. I 
have them set up with old XT thumbshifters, and while they're comfortable, 
I wouldn't use them for singletrack riding. I can't really lift the front 
wheel when riding that bike. When I ride singletrack with the Midge, I 
invariably find myself switching to deep in the hooks, to get the most 
leverage and to shift my body weight forward. For general riding, I'm on 
the shoulders of the Midge bars, and typically braking with my thumbs on 
the interrupter levers I've got a couple inches out from the stem.

Just my 2 cents!

On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:48:28 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Casey and Philip,
>
> You have me intrigued with the flared off-road drops. For the Sparrow and 
> wood chipper and On One Midge, is the cruising position in the flats on 
> top, as on a road bike? Do they take road levers? What is the difference 
> with different types of aluminum?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Saturday, March 29, 2014 10:09:56 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> I love flared off-road drops for exactly the reasons you mention.
>>
>> Philip
>> www.biketinker.com
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

[BSWP]

Some pictures of BG 43mm Rock 'n Roads on my 66cm QuickBeam. They just... 
barely... fit... and while they didn't rub, I was worried they would be too 
tight if any mud or rim wobble happened.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/71141757@N02/7531752382/

While I still have Jack Blues on there now, and they've been fine on 
hard-packed dirt, there's a pair of 38mm Soma C-Lines from OceanAir ready 
to go on, which I look forward to testing on some softer surfaces.

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

[casey]

My Simpleone has Bruce Gordon Rock and Road tires in 43 mm. These tires 
absolutely rock on my bike! Reasonable to use on the road also. I have a 1991 
Sumpjumper and a new Surly one x one, both nice enough bikes however, the 
Simpleone out does both of these bikes with ease. I can't hang with the full 
suspension guys down hill but, up hill I can usually cath them. I am running 55 
gear inches which seems to be about right for me. I have tried gears on the 
trails but I always find my self getting bogged down in the whole gear changing 
thing and not going as smoothly or as efficiently. Gears are welcome on the 
road but, it seems like I can become more motivated by finding the right 
cadence than by just getting the job done. I do run a Sturmey Archer two speed 
kick back for my road riding. It also makes me get the job done, with a high of 
73 and low of 55 inches  my Simpleone really works for me and surprises a lot 
of people. After riding geared bikes, getting back on the Simpleone always 
seems a whole lot easier. That frame just really works for me, gears or not.   
Casey

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Jeremy Till]

On saddles: I would say that that a B.17 would definitely let you get 
farther back on descents than a B.68, but a good investment in this area 
might also be the lugged "Wayback" post.  Even if you don't use every mm of 
setback it offers, you will have a bit more range of adjustment to dial in 
exactly how much setback is needed for yourself, since it puts brooks 
saddles more in the "strike zone" as it were, at least for me.  On a normal 
seatpost you just shove the brooks all the way back, but then you're left 
wondering, "what if I could just get it a *little* farther back?"  Yes, 
it's expensive, but the steel construction offers peace of mind on the 
rough stuff, esp. when you're sitting way far back, and the two bolt design 
never slips.  

No reason you can't do a 36x24 double on your current Sugino.  Plus, it's 
forged, so good 'n durable.  Fill up the outer chainring position with a 
BBG chainring guard: 

http://www.bbgbashguard.com/







On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:02:59 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him 
> (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on 
> it’s his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it’s your 
> own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can 
> count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he’s lived up to 
> his name!) — anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But 
> in the ensuing time, I’ve learned that on roads there are people and their 
> insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track. 
> I’ve also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style 
> riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert 
> Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan:
>
> Tires:
> I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.
>
> Fenders:
> I’ve dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie 
> friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25”.
>
> Handlebars:
> You’ve seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to 
> a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a 
> bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.
>
> Saddle:
> Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get 
> weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here?
>
> Cassette:
> Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding 
> to be done in the middle ring (36t).
>
> Front Deraileure:
> Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain 
> Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. 
> Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my 
> Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing 
> for riding mountain trails with touring load.
>
> Any and all inputs welcome.
>
> I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is. 
> With my road setup I’ve ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail 
> (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails 
> when properly set up? 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Quickbeam/Simple One as Singletrack MTB?

[Cyclofiend Jim]

I think it has a lot to do with where you find your challenges.  Back when 
I first got enthralled by cyclocross and the bicycles, I started venturing 
onto more and more challenging trails.  What I found is that the technique 
is very different.  The closest I can describe (if you have ever fished) is 
light tackle fishing - you generally cannot muscle through things the way 
you can when riding 2" tires.  Your line becomes very important.  

Most of the first trail riding I did on 700C/622 wheelsets used 30-35 mm 
knibblie tires - CX tires. Some of the "30's" were really more like 28's.  
These days, I'm actually riding Jack Browns over almost everything, 
maintaining very odd internal dialogues about how tire placement and center 
of gravity are much more important than tread.  I also end up suddenly 
pondering the sky from time to time, so I wouldn't necessarily recommend 
that.

At the same time I was first messing with CX bikes, I was also setting up 
my first singlespeed.  (I've mentioned this before, but it was an El Nino 
year here in CA, and I was literally melting drivetrains on the trails.)  
These two streams finally got crossed when I got my Quickbeam.  

Now, I'll say that I've ridden a lot of trails, and learned to mtb on long, 
rigid frames.  So, I'm not really learning trail technique as much as 
expanding it.  

And it depends a lot upon the trails you ride.  A nice swoopy forest 
singletrack is a fine place to try this out.  The local technical, boulder 
roller, throat-clencher not so much.

Small tires can beat you up a bit, as the cushion isn't there. Plus, I tend 
to ride higher tire pressures because I really dislike flatting on trails. 

But, in the end, I like simple systems.  I like the consistency of knowing 
that the climb is the same, the bike is the same, and the variable is how I 
feel on a given day.  I love the silence (and generally increase that by 
running fixed).   You don't get there the same way.  You don't follow the 
same lines. 

Kinda like life.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: Remember the Turtles?

[Mike]

Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Wet 300k

[Mike]

Brian, congrats on the finish. Was this your first 300k? I know I've said 
this before here but I'll just repeat it. The 300k is probably my favorite 
brevet length. Sure, it's hard, I've had my moments on 300ks, but 
ultimately, it's just a nice long day in the saddle and depending on speed 
and time of year, can be completed without riding at night. 
>
>  
As for Noodles and cloth tape--yup, that's a winning combination. I 
recently swapped out my 48cm Noodles for 46s on my LHT and regret it. I'm 
too lazy to re-swap them. The 48s will likely go on a bike project I'm 
contemplating. 

Are you going to do a full SR series? If you get a chance, look at the 
route for SIR's 3 Volcanos 300k. That looks like a dream route. I've ridden 
all the roads, just not in a day. 

--mike

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Joe Bernard]

I think your best bet is to talk to Grant when you decide to purchase. You 
probably ordered your Sam from a limited supply of specials, so didn't have 
many options in your size range. An Hilsen purchase would be built-to-order 
in exactly the size you need, and you can expect the Riv crew to lean 
towards the bigger end of frames you can fit. 
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:

> Hello Group!
>
> My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past 
> year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.
>
> I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web 
> specials from last year). 
>
> See a pic here .
>
> I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I 
> love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, 
> etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of 
> 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the 
> picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)
>
> If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an 
> AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange 
> Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. 
> The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day 
> rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've 
> got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double 
> top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!  
>
> It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use 
> the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have 
> any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great, 
> but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike 
> again, thus I consider the 63...
>
> General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!
>
>
> Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Remember the Turtles?

[Hugh Smitham]

That's awesome! And in character no less.

Tom, thanks...we had a pond with turtles but the raccoon's kept making our
pond a dinner stop so we took them to a larger pond at Descanso Gardens
with a bunch of turtle friends. Last I saw was a little head with a red
chin popping up from the surface of the water and some other turtles
swimming over to him.

~Hugh

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moving." -- Albert Einstein

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> Pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMNry4PE93Y
>
> --mike
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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Philip Williamson]

Saddle: I like my B17, but wouldn't have one on a dedicated mountain bike. 
I can get behind the one on my Quickbeam, but it's a trick to get back on 
top of it. I haven't ridden my newish-to-me Swift off road yet. 
I have a Bontrager saddle from 1999 that has "clipped" rear ears to 
facilitate hanging off the back of the saddle. I like it. I'm not a saddle 
snob, though. 

Fenders: I used Planet Bike Cascadia fenders over 60mm Big Apples, and 
liked them. They were a little wiggly, but I think that was the 5" aluminum 
'drop bracket' I made, and the disc-brake standoff for the left stay. I 
think a nice-looking and functional addition would be to rivet an extra 
mudflap to the front of each 
fender. http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7028_1.html 

Gears: You can't put the VBC rings on a Sugino crank, but you can set up 
your existing crank with the gearing you want. A 24t ring seems super low 
to me, but I don't ride loaded camping bikes. The 36 seems like a fine 
choice for a mostly-single ring with a 9sp. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com



On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 7:02:59 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him 
> (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on 
> it’s his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it’s your 
> own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can 
> count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he’s lived up to 
> his name!) — anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But 
> in the ensuing time, I’ve learned that on roads there are people and their 
> insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track. 
> I’ve also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style 
> riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert 
> Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan:
>
> Tires:
> I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.
>
> Fenders:
> I’ve dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie 
> friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25”.
>
> Handlebars:
> You’ve seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to 
> a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a 
> bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.
>
> Saddle:
> Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get 
> weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here?
>
> Cassette:
> Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding 
> to be done in the middle ring (36t).
>
> Front Deraileure:
> Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain 
> Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. 
> Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my 
> Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing 
> for riding mountain trails with touring load.
>
> Any and all inputs welcome.
>
> I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is. 
> With my road setup I’ve ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail 
> (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails 
> when properly set up? 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[hsmitham]

Avery,

What both of these fine gentlemen said is correct. Since I have a shorter 
PBH I can't speak to the larger sized Homer, however I do ride a 58cm Homer 
and it is the most versatile bike I've ever owned. With the right tires 
it's a fairly fast road warrior, with the Rumpkin's (Soma is supposed to be 
releasing a 40ish mm knobby tire soon)  I run it's an off road warrior for 
S240's. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconutbill/13426677245/in/faves-pedalpusher61/

When I purchased the AHH from Riv I was skeptical about sizing up...oh how 
right they are.  

These day's Homer will be doing duty as a daily road bike and the soon to 
be finished Atlantis will take over the heavy off road stuff. If I had to 
pick one bike that can do a variety of things well, leaning towards the 
road then the AHH is the rig. All that said the Hillborne is a worthy 
bicycle and the amount of silver showing isn't on the ridiculous side. 

~Hugh 

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:
>
> Hello Group!
>
> My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the past 
> year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year or so.
>
> I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web 
> specials from last year). 
>
> See a pic here .
>
> I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I 
> love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics, 
> etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of 
> 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the 
> picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)
>
> If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting an 
> AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo Orange 
> Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule them all. 
> The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway - all day 
> rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt (I've 
> got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.  Double 
> top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!  
>
> It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use 
> the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have 
> any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great, 
> but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike 
> again, thus I consider the 63...
>
> General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!
>
>
> Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Hugh Smitham]

Where are my manners, Avery welcome to the group.

~Hugh

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On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:06 AM, hsmitham  wrote:

> Avery,
>
> What both of these fine gentlemen said is correct. Since I have a shorter
> PBH I can't speak to the larger sized Homer, however I do ride a 58cm Homer
> and it is the most versatile bike I've ever owned. With the right tires
> it's a fairly fast road warrior, with the Rumpkin's (Soma is supposed to be
> releasing a 40ish mm knobby tire soon)  I run it's an off road warrior for
> S240's.
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/coconutbill/13426677245/in/faves-pedalpusher61/
>
> When I purchased the AHH from Riv I was skeptical about sizing up...oh how
> right they are.
>
> These day's Homer will be doing duty as a daily road bike and the soon to
> be finished Atlantis will take over the heavy off road stuff. If I had to
> pick one bike that can do a variety of things well, leaning towards the
> road then the AHH is the rig. All that said the Hillborne is a worthy
> bicycle and the amount of silver showing isn't on the ridiculous side.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 8:21:33 AM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:
>>
>> Hello Group!
>>
>> My name is Avery Wilson. I've chimed in on a few discussions over the
>> past year, but I've been reading the group pretty consistently for a year
>> or so.
>>
>> I currently have a 56cm Sam Hillborne (one of the blue headtube web
>> specials from last year).
>>
>> See a pic here .
>>
>> I've been riding the bike since early last summer. I MOSTLY love it!  I
>> love the comfort, the laid back geometry, the high bars, the aesthetics,
>> etc. etc.  However, I've been wondering if its too small for me.  My PBH of
>> 88 put me right in between the 56 and the 60cm, and as you can see from the
>> picture, I've got an "immodest" amount of seatpost showing. :)
>>
>> If I replace it (advice solicited here!), I've been thinking of getting
>> an AHH, and effectively "combine" my Sam and another more roadish (Velo
>> Orange Randonneur that's too small for me as well) into one bike to rule
>> them all. The Homer seems more suited to the type of riding I do anyway -
>> all day rambles, quicker short road rides, occasional gravel, not much dirt
>> (I've got a sweet 29er for that), occasional S24O, but no real touring.
>>  Double top tube Sam may be overkill anyway!
>>
>> It seems I would be in between a 61cm and a 63cm on the Hilsen if you use
>> the Saddle Height - 15-17cm method.  Does anyone with a similar PBH have
>> any experience with 61-63cm AHH bikes?  I feel like the 61 would be great,
>> but I want to avoid chickening out and getting another too-small bike
>> again, thus I consider the 63...
>>
>> General comments, questions, and observations are welcome!
>>
>>
>> Avery "first-time-new-topic-poster" Wilson
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[RBW] New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Corwin]

Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this as 
an alternative to my dynamo wheel: 
http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail

Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
doubt and keep an open mind.

Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
(LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?

This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
other lights as well as the Edeluxe.

Thanks,



Corwin

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, David. Heck, give me two years and loads of wisdom from this grand 
lot and I can cobble together something that seems well thought out. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 9:25:19 AM UTC-6, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> They all sound like well thought out changes for a more dirt-oriented 
> bike. If you go w/ the Bullmoose type bar, you're going to be less upright, 
> and a B17 should work really well. You can slide back on those pretty 
> easily. I found that I still wanted a bit more mobility on the saddle, and 
> actually went to a Swift. 
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Deacon Patrick 
> > wrote:
>
>> When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him 
>> (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on 
>> it’s his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it’s your 
>> own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can 
>> count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he’s lived up to 
>> his name!) — anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But 
>> in the ensuing time, I’ve learned that on roads there are people and their 
>> insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track. 
>> I’ve also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style 
>> riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert 
>> Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan:
>>
>> Tires:
>> I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.
>>
>> Fenders:
>> I’ve dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie 
>> friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25”.
>>
>> Handlebars:
>> You’ve seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross 
>> to a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a 
>> bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.
>>
>> Saddle:
>> Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get 
>> weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here?
>>
>> Cassette:
>> Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding 
>> to be done in the middle ring (36t).
>>
>> Front Deraileure:
>> Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain 
>> Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my 
>> Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing 
>> for riding mountain trails with touring load.
>>
>> Any and all inputs welcome.
>>
>> I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike 
>> is. With my road setup I’ve ridden significant section s of the Colorado 
>> Trail (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these 
>> trails when properly set up? 
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[IanA]

I might get one for my spaceship - just finished building it in my shed and 
I forgot about lighting.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:15:47 AM UTC-6, Corwin wrote:
>
> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this as 
> an alternative to my dynamo wheel: 
> http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>
> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
> doubt and keep an open mind.
>
> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>
> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Corwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, everyone! Great help!

Jeremy, I actually have my B68 in the middle, so I imagine I'll be fine 
with whatever saddle I use on my current setup?

Jeremy and Philip and John (who wrote me off group), great gearing idea! I 
talked to my LBS and they can do the rock guard double conversion with a 
spacer to the BB which should open up the rear to a 2.25" tire. I'm liking 
that idea!

Saddle: I was thinking the b17 select for the longer wear. The only issue I 
have so far with the B68 is getting back enough for steep descents, and I 
have no issue with the width at other times, so I want to go as wide as I 
can and still get back off the saddle as needed. I can almost do that with 
the B68, so I'm thinking the B17 should work well?

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Minh]

Avery,

I have an older 56 SH and run about the same amount of post, in an AHH i'd 
ride a 58 or a 60.  As others point out i would not focus on the amount of 
seatpost but instead on the TT length, if you're not feeling cramped then 
i'd find the AHH that would give you a similiar TT length.  

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[RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[jeffrey kane]

Considering the date: April 1st … I'm inclined to laugh! 

And man, do I miss the old days of Cyclingnews.com ….


On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 1:22:47 PM UTC-4, IanA wrote:
>
> I might get one for my spaceship - just finished building it in my shed 
> and I forgot about lighting.
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:15:47 AM UTC-6, Corwin wrote:
>>
>> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this 
>> as an alternative to my dynamo wheel: 
>> http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>>
>> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
>> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
>> doubt and keep an open mind.
>>
>> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
>> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>>
>> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
>> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
>> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Bill Lindsay]

Dang it!  They are out of stock!  I need one for my new Rivendell Custom 
Recumbent!

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:15:47 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>
> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this as 
> an alternative to my dynamo wheel: 
> http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>
> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
> doubt and keep an open mind.
>
> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>
> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Corwin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Curtis McKenzie]

I got the last one!


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Dang it!  They are out of stock!  I need one for my new Rivendell Custom
> Recumbent!
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:15:47 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>>
>> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this
>> as an alternative to my dynamo wheel: http://www.renehersestore.com/
>> servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>>
>> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical
>> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my
>> doubt and keep an open mind.
>>
>> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions
>> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>>
>> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more
>> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to
>> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Ginz]

I'm not sure this things is such a great idea.  What happens when you are 
on that ride on the 364th day of year 36, it's raining and dark and you 
light goes out?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Chris Chen]

Well, then you drink the kool-aid inside the power unit.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Ginz  wrote:

> I'm not sure this things is such a great idea.  What happens when you are
> on that ride on the 364th day of year 36, it's raining and dark and you
> light goes out?
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[RBW] FS: Nitto R-14, Resist Nomads, Kenda

[Michael Williams]

Hey group,  for sale is a Nitto R-14,  used, some scratches, but 100% 
functional $80+ shipping, Resist Nomad tires.  $20/ pair + shipping. Kenda 
Karma tires 29x 1.9 , like new, $10/pair + shipping.  Contact off list,  thank 
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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Evan]

Hi Avery,

Welcome! I agree with everyone else that your amount of seat post, while 
more than a fistful, is not at all bad. As for getting a Homer to replace 
your Sam: Grant says that the two bikes are functionally equivalent, so if 
one goes for the Homer, one is choosing it mainly for its appearance and 
for its slightly thinner tubing. Nothing wrong with that, of course!

Evan E.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Tim McNamara]

I miss Sheldon every April 1.  ShelBroCo's annual product announcements were 
always so inspiring.  The Rivendell Sauron was perhaps the pinnacle.

Best wishes to Sheldon's family, friends and coworkers- and to us all!

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Avery Wilson]

Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95% 
happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer 
stem.. 

I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping 
and rewrapping half of my bars. :)

So a little description of the current setup:

56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
10CM Tallux stem
Albatross bars
Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims) 
Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
Brooks B17 regular.
Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. :)


Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple, 
tektro R559 etc.

Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen 
with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Robert Barr]

Patrick, I have the wide/low 40X26 crank paired with 9sp 12-36t cassette.
While I haven't had the chance (yet) to ride it in the mountains, the setup
has been great. Bob



On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Thanks, everyone! Great help!
>
> Jeremy, I actually have my B68 in the middle, so I imagine I'll be fine
> with whatever saddle I use on my current setup?
>
> Jeremy and Philip and John (who wrote me off group), great gearing idea! I
> talked to my LBS and they can do the rock guard double conversion with a
> spacer to the BB which should open up the rear to a 2.25" tire. I'm liking
> that idea!
>
> Saddle: I was thinking the b17 select for the longer wear. The only issue
> I have so far with the B68 is getting back enough for steep descents, and I
> have no issue with the width at other times, so I want to go as wide as I
> can and still get back off the saddle as needed. I can almost do that with
> the B68, so I'm thinking the B17 should work well?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Peter Morgano]

Wouldn't a 59cm San Marcos fit the bill? The fact it is less than half the
price doesn't hurt either.


On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Avery Wilson  wrote:

>
>
> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95%
> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer
> stem..
>
> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping
> and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>
> So a little description of the current setup:
>
> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
> 10CM Tallux stem
> Albatross bars
> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims)
> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
> Brooks B17 regular.
> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. :)
>
>
> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple,
> tektro R559 etc.
>
> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen
> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Avery E Wilson]

My wife rides a San Marcos... While it's a beautiful bike, I'm not sure I
want to match! Call it vanity, but that's what I'm at ;)
On Apr 1, 2014 3:21 PM, "Peter Morgano"  wrote:

> Wouldn't a 59cm San Marcos fit the bill? The fact it is less than half the
> price doesn't hurt either.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Avery Wilson  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95%
>> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer
>> stem..
>>
>> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping
>> and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>>
>> So a little description of the current setup:
>>
>> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
>> 10CM Tallux stem
>> Albatross bars
>> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims)
>> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
>> Brooks B17 regular.
>> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
>> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
>> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack..
>> :)
>>
>>
>> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple,
>> tektro R559 etc.
>>
>> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen
>> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
>> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Joe Bernard]

Ahh, the stem is a good place to start. I've used Albas on several bikes, 
and even on frames right at the edge of too big I always needed a 12cm 
stem. Those bars have a good bit of reach-back, and can make you feel 
cramped if the stem is too short. The bar-end shifters will exacerbate this 
feeling. You have a very nice bicycle there, so I would start with the 
cheaper/easier changes before deciding the Sam isn't quite what you need. 
 
PS. Love the double-tubes and the blue headtube. I kinda like the 
frame-color headtubes over cream.
 
Joe Bernard

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:06:24 PM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:

>
>
> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95% 
> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer 
> stem.. 
>
> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping 
> and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>
> So a little description of the current setup:
>
> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
> 10CM Tallux stem
> Albatross bars
> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims) 
> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
> Brooks B17 regular.
> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. :)
>
>
> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple, 
> tektro R559 etc.
>
> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen 
> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
>

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[RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Tom Virgil]

Rivendell Sauron.  LMAO.  

My evil mind immediately flashed to a salamander hued contraption with 16 
inch wheels and a low slung frame..   It would be the Rivendell Gollum.

Me precious,

Tom


On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:15:47 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>
> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this as 
> an alternative to my dynamo wheel: 
> http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>
> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
> doubt and keep an open mind.
>
> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>
> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Corwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Bill Lindsay]

"but that entails unwrapping and rewrapping half of my bars. :)"


If you really are willing to buy a $2300 frame just to avoid re-wrapping 
your bars, I will commit to doing your stem swap for you for significantly 
less than $2300.  ;-)  

Seriously though, my saddle height is 75.5cm.  I ride a 56 Sam, and a 58cm 
650B Hilsen.  If I were to buy a 700c Hilsen, I would get a 59.  All the 
above have drop bars on them.  For an Alba or Bosco setup on a Hilsen, I'd 
possibly jump to a 61.  






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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[cyclotourist]

Word of the day is EnduRAD
http://www.pinkbike.com/news/felt-bicycles-559-endurrad-enduro-specific-wheelsize-2014.html



Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Tom Virgil  wrote:

> Rivendell Sauron.  LMAO.
>
> My evil mind immediately flashed to a salamander hued contraption with 16
> inch wheels and a low slung frame..   It would be the Rivendell Gollum.
>
> Me precious,
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:15:47 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>
>> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this
>> as an alternative to my dynamo wheel: http://www.renehersestore.com/
>> servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>>
>> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical
>> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my
>> doubt and keep an open mind.
>>
>> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions
>> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>>
>> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more
>> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to
>> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Peter Morgano]

My wife would love matching bikes! Then she would stop telling me an mb2 is
not a Rivendell, haha.
On Apr 1, 2014 3:25 PM, "Avery E Wilson"  wrote:

> My wife rides a San Marcos... While it's a beautiful bike, I'm not sure I
> want to match! Call it vanity, but that's what I'm at ;)
> On Apr 1, 2014 3:21 PM, "Peter Morgano"  wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't a 59cm San Marcos fit the bill? The fact it is less than half
>> the price doesn't hurt either.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Avery Wilson  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95%
>>> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer
>>> stem..
>>>
>>> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails
>>> unwrapping and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>>>
>>> So a little description of the current setup:
>>>
>>> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
>>> 10CM Tallux stem
>>> Albatross bars
>>> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims)
>>> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
>>> Brooks B17 regular.
>>> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
>>> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
>>> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack..
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino
>>> triple, tektro R559 etc.
>>>
>>> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen
>>> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
>>> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[Bill Lindsay]

I'm going to make a YouTube instructional video, showing you how to do an 
EnduRAD conversion on your played-out archaic 26" mountain bike.  There are 
some very specific measurements to qualify your existing 26" wheel mountain 
bike as a viable EnduRAD conversion candidate.  Most people will miss the 
nuances.  

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:51:09 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Word of the day is EnduRAD
>
> http://www.pinkbike.com/news/felt-bicycles-559-endurrad-enduro-specific-wheelsize-2014.html
>
>
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Tom Virgil 
> > wrote:
>
>> Rivendell Sauron.  LMAO.  
>>
>> My evil mind immediately flashed to a salamander hued contraption with 16 
>> inch wheels and a low slung frame..   It would be the Rivendell Gollum.
>>
>> Me precious,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:15:47 AM UTC-7, Corwin wrote:
>>
>>> Although I don't have the funds at the moment - I'm tempted to try this 
>>> as an alternative to my dynamo wheel: http://www.renehersestore.com/
>>> servlet/the-1339/ZZ---/Detail
>>>
>>> Having read the Gary Taubes book on Cold Fusion, I'm somewhat skeptical 
>>> about the veracity of claims made about LENR. But I'm willing to suspend my 
>>> doubt and keep an open mind.
>>>
>>> Anybody on the list know much about Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions 
>>> (LENR) and the potential for application as a power source?
>>>
>>> This could make lights previously powered by dynamo hubs much more 
>>> portable. I assume this power source could potentially be connected to 
>>> other lights as well as the Edeluxe.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Corwin
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Deacon Patrick]

Welcome, Avery! Great looking bike! I'll echo everyone else's input that 
the seat post is not an immodest amount. I've found that part of the 
journey with my Hunqapillar is discovering the many variations of fit and 
function and how we get along. I would suggest you play with the small bits 
before swapping out the big bit.

What exactly feels "too small" to you? If the bars feel too close, you can 
get a longer stem and/or a set back seat post. Also, Albatross bars, which 
it looks like you are riding, definitely come back compared with other 
bars, and you have them fairly high, both of which shorten your reach. I'd 
suggest getting those dialed in as close as you can, then if things are 
still too small, look into shifting to a larger frame.

It took me a while to learn to 1) not be afraid to destroy handlebar tape 
to try something new and; 2) ride with the set up I am testing for a good 
hearty ride before taping it up again so I destroy less tape. Grin.

Whatever you decide, enjoy the ride!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Garth]

Utter simplicity is simply keeping the crank you have , I assume you have 
an XD w/24/36/4x ?   You don't have to remove the outer ring unless you 
want to replace it with a chainguard . Set you FD to not shift into the big 
ring if you like.  

A VBC crank requires special chainrings only available thru White, this to 
me sounds like more complication.  If you just want an excuse to buy 
something new with it's associated "baggage", ok, just don't make excuses 
and buy it ! :) 

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Deacon Patrick]

Great point, Garth. Simplicity is what I am after and you make a great 
point on the WI VBC crank. So, that is the plan -- with a spacer added to 
the bb to shift things over and give me more tire clearance with an 
improved chain line.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:13:03 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Utter simplicity is simply keeping the crank you have , I assume you have 
> an XD w/24/36/4x ?   You don't have to remove the outer ring unless you 
> want to replace it with a chainguard . Set you FD to not shift into the big 
> ring if you like.  
>
> A VBC crank requires special chainrings only available thru White, this to 
> me sounds like more complication.  If you just want an excuse to buy 
> something new with it's associated "baggage", ok, just don't make excuses 
> and buy it ! :) 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTT: White Ind. ENO rings, hub

[Philip Williamson]

44t ring gone. 

Pictures: 
Silver 135mm 32 hole ENO Eccentric hub: https://flic.kr/p/mB6Uu3 
ENO silver rings: https://flic.kr/p/mB4Hpm 

I'll also take money for these. Rings are $35 shipped. Hub is $100 shipped. 

Thanks,
Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 4:53:35 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> I have: 
> White Industries ENO chain rings: 34t, 34t, 36t, 36t, 44t. New, unused, 
> silver rings.
> White Industries Eric's Eccentric ENO hub: silver, 32h, 135mm. Used, 
> cleaned up nice.
>
> I want: 
> WI ENO chainring lockring tool!
> WI black 135mm disc hub (non-eccentric).
> Different splined WI rings: green, VBC, double rings, 40t, 42t, etc.
> More WI splined cranks.
> WI freewheel?
>
> Long shot, but these things could spend years on a shelf, and I'd rather 
> get them circulating.
>
> Philip
> www.biketinker.com
>
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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[Marc Irwin]

I have tried to deal with the dilemma of a truly versitile bike by having 
two wheelsets, one for the fatties and one of concrete.  I use the SKS Velo 
55 
fenderswhich
 work for tires up to 46mm (like Big Bens) and can be easily removed 
for the knobbies like Fat Alberts or Smart Sam's.   Not the best of both 
worlds, but it makes me happy without a hassle.


Marc


On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 5:35:05 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Great point, Garth. Simplicity is what I am after and you make a great 
> point on the WI VBC crank. So, that is the plan -- with a spacer added to 
> the bb to shift things over and give me more tire clearance with an 
> improved chain line.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:13:03 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Utter simplicity is simply keeping the crank you have , I assume you have 
>> an XD w/24/36/4x ?   You don't have to remove the outer ring unless you 
>> want to replace it with a chainguard . Set you FD to not shift into the big 
>> ring if you like.  
>>
>> A VBC crank requires special chainrings only available thru White, this 
>> to me sounds like more complication.  If you just want an excuse to buy 
>> something new with it's associated "baggage", ok, just don't make excuses 
>> and buy it ! :) 
>>
>

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[RBW] Keven/Vince style thumbshifters

[Dave]

Inspired by Grants post about Liesl's gorgeous new bike, I swapped around 
my paul thumbies on a pair of boscos.  Right paul to the left side, left 
paul to right side. Instead of the actual thumbshifter being on the outside 
where there can be overlap between where the shifter is and where your palm 
wants to be, the shifter moves to the inside of the bar where it's out of 
the way. There's no downside at all unless you like indexed shifting (which 
I guess you could still do if you ran your rear derailleur shifting from 
the left hand), and the upside is *huge*.  The thumbies no longer get in 
the way of certain grips, you can actually hook into them pretty nicely 
with a thumb, and you get so much more grippable bar area than with the 
thumb shifters on the outside.

Thanks Vince and Keven, and Grant for the photos!



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[RBW] Re: Keven/Vince style thumbshifters

[Bill Lindsay]

I just did that same set up on Bosco Bullmooses.  I'll post some pictures 
tonight, most likely.  

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 3:45:41 PM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> Inspired by Grants post about Liesl's gorgeous new bike, I swapped around 
> my paul thumbies on a pair of boscos.  Right paul to the left side, left 
> paul to right side. Instead of the actual thumbshifter being on the outside 
> where there can be overlap between where the shifter is and where your palm 
> wants to be, the shifter moves to the inside of the bar where it's out of 
> the way. There's no downside at all unless you like indexed shifting (which 
> I guess you could still do if you ran your rear derailleur shifting from 
> the left hand), and the upside is *huge*.  The thumbies no longer get in 
> the way of certain grips, you can actually hook into them pretty nicely 
> with a thumb, and you get so much more grippable bar area than with the 
> thumb shifters on the outside.
>
> Thanks Vince and Keven, and Grant for the photos!
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Roadish Touring to MTB Conversion

[doc]

The Selle Titanico is a good leather saddle for mountain biking; long and 
narrow, long rails for easy setback, watershed finish, not overly priced, 
and reasonably attractive.

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 10:02:59 AM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> When I got my Hunqapillar two years ago this very month I outfitted him 
> (his name is Shadowfax, not for his color, but for the quality that once on 
> it’s his responsibility to keep you there and if you do fall off it’s your 
> own fault. Considering I ride with constant neurological vertigo and can 
> count my falls on one hand despite technical trail riding, he’s lived up to 
> his name!) — anyroad, I outfitted him for paved and dirt road touring. But 
> in the ensuing time, I’ve learned that on roads there are people and their 
> insidious noise machines far more often than there are on single track. 
> I’ve also learned the weaknesses of a road touring setup for MTB style 
> riding and bikepacking. So my plan, as budget allows, is to convert 
> Shadowfax to a dedicated singletrack beastie and here is the plan:
>
> Tires:
> I shifted to Smart Sams, currently 2.1" rear, 2.25" front.
>
> Fenders:
> I’ve dropped them for now, but wondering if there are cold, MTB/knobbie 
> friendly options someone could recommend. Wheel size is 29 x 2.25”.
>
> Handlebars:
> You’ve seen this in other threads, but shifting away from the Albatross to 
> a bar that allows for aggressive posture with brakes up front. Likely a 
> bullmoose, albastache, or dirt drop bar.
>
> Saddle:
> Currently a B-68, going to try the B17 Select. I need a saddle I can get 
> weight back on steep descents. Recommendations here?
>
> Cassette:
> Shift from a 12-32 8 speed to a 12-36 9-speed to allow most of my riding 
> to be done in the middle ring (36t).
>
> Front Deraileure:
> Ride what I have but consider shifting to White Industries VBC Mountain 
> Crankset 24/36, riding mostly in the 36, but having the granny if needed. 
> Anyone have experience with this? Do I need new cranks, or can I use my 
> Sugino 170s? The goal here is simplicity without sacrificing needed gearing 
> for riding mountain trails with touring load.
>
> Any and all inputs welcome.
>
> I have to add that I am continually stunned by how versatile this bike is. 
> With my road setup I’ve ridden significant section s of the Colorado Trail 
> (technical single track). How much more/better will he ride these trails 
> when properly set up? 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
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>  
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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[Michael]

>
> Welcome to the forum.
>
 
I would call Rivendell and ask them. They would probably be best to tell 
you.
Measure your PBH and tell them what it is  when you get them on the phone.
 
2. You can see the geometry chart for the Hilsen to see the standover 
heights and the top tube lengths to see if any size would be too small or 
large for you, too. 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[justinaugust]

I would find a lighter wheel set with nicer tires to test out on your current 
rig and see how that changes your ride. I think you'll be surprised how much 
difference those two things could impact your experience. 

Disclosure, I have a 700c XT/Dynohub/Synergy wheel set going up for sale soon. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[dougP]

Avery:

It's always fun to welcome someone new to the group.  To your question, a 
more performance oriented wheelset / tire choice could be your last 5%.  I 
have an Atlantis with Mavic A719 rims (stout, touring hoops) and have run 
various Schwalbe tires for ages.  Simply changing to the Soma C-lines made 
a noticeable difference in ride.  I've also tired a lighter wheelset with 
silly/skinny tires and it entirely transforms the character of the bike.  
The same change on a more sporty frameset could be even more fun.  

This gets me to thinking I should try the Somas on the racy wheelset.  

dougP

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:06:24 PM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:
>
>
>
> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95% 
> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer 
> stem.. 
>
> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails unwrapping 
> and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>
> So a little description of the current setup:
>
> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
> 10CM Tallux stem
> Albatross bars
> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims) 
> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
> Brooks B17 regular.
> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. :)
>
>
> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino triple, 
> tektro R559 etc.
>
> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen 
> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Introduction and Sam Hillborne / AHH Sizing Advice

[dougP]

Well Avery, my wife rides an Atlantis (sheer blind luck, no planning went 
into the choice) so we get a lot of "matching" comments.  Hey, what works, 
just works!

dougP

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:25:55 PM UTC-7, Avery Wilson wrote:
>
> My wife rides a San Marcos... While it's a beautiful bike, I'm not sure I 
> want to match! Call it vanity, but that's what I'm at ;) 
> On Apr 1, 2014 3:21 PM, "Peter Morgano" > 
> wrote:
>
>> Wouldn't a 59cm San Marcos fit the bill? The fact it is less than half 
>> the price doesn't hurt either. 
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Avery Wilson 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, I wonder if my very small level of dissatisfaction (I am about 95% 
>>> happy!) could be cured by lighter wheel/tire setup, and maybe a longer 
>>> stem.. 
>>>
>>> I have a 12cm TechDeluxe that I could put on, but that entails 
>>> unwrapping and rewrapping half of my bars. :)
>>>
>>> So a little description of the current setup:
>>>
>>> 56CM DTT Sam Hillborne
>>> 10CM Tallux stem
>>> Albatross bars
>>> Wheels are LX Hubs with Velocity Dyad (heavy-ish touring rims) 
>>> Tires are Resist Nomad 700x45 (42 actual) Wire bead.
>>> Brooks B17 regular.
>>> Some sweet vintage Paul brake Levers
>>> Marks Rack with Wald Medium Basket
>>> Axiom Rear rack as bag platform (would rather have another Mark's Rack.. 
>>> :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Everything else is a Riv-standard build.. silver shifters, Sugino 
>>> triple, tektro R559 etc.
>>>
>>> Could I get some of that lively responsiveness that I love in the Hilsen 
>>> with a lighter wheelset and some of those sweet new Compass 700x38 tires?
>>> Or is the ride of the AHH inherent in its frame?
>>>  
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Re: [RBW] FS/WTT - Chris King, 10 Speed STI, WI Eno, Nitto, Tires

[Tony DeFilippo]

Sold a couple, here is the latest list.  Help me keep up the spring 
cleaning!!


Available for Sale/Trade (trade preferred, offers welcome, shipping not 
included in prices below):

*PICTURES 
HERE*

-$110 Chris King Classic Front Wheel, 32 hole, 26" Rim, rim brake (silver, 
the hub weighs in at 112grams... if you're into that sort of thing, I'm 
happy to cut this out of its rim to keep shipping down if you are going to 
do the same anyway, same price)

-$125 WI ENO eccentric wheel, 32 hole, 26" Rim, rim brake (black)

-$65 WI 17T FW

-$10 Surly 20T Fixed Cog (free with wheel purchase!)

-$80 Nitto Noodle 44cm Cockpit, including: Shimano aero Levers  (will part 
out if requested)

-$40 Nitto 7cm Stem 

-$10 each (3 avail) Col de la vie tires, used but plenty of life (650Bx32)

-$55 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, nearly new) - For full price 
I'll include the Riv Reader where Grant announces he got a patent for the 
colored sidewalls! :)

-$25 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, ~3,500 miles, rear one shows 
pretty smooth center but definitely rideable)

-$12 one GEAX AKA 26"x2.2", lots of small knobs, neat looking, plenty of 
life left, looks almost new

-$35 pair Continental Gravity 26"x2.3", looks like a decent aggressive 
knobby, plenty of life left


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Re: [RBW] FS/WTT - Chris King, 10 Speed STI, WI Eno, Nitto, Tires

[Tony DeFilippo]

Sold a couple, here is the latest list.  Help me keep up the spring 
cleaning!!


Available for Sale/Trade (trade preferred, offers welcome, shipping not 
included in prices below):

*PICTURES 
HERE*

-(new to list) $140 WI ENO Crankset with 34T single speed ring

-$110 Chris King Classic Front Wheel, 32 hole, 26" Rim, rim brake (silver, 
the hub weighs in at 112grams... if you're into that sort of thing, I'm 
happy to cut this out of its rim to keep shipping down if you are going to 
do the same anyway, same price)

-$125 WI ENO eccentric wheel, 32 hole, 26" Rim, rim brake (black)

-$65 WI 17T FW

-$10 Surly 20T Fixed Cog (free with wheel purchase!)

-$80 Nitto Noodle 44cm Cockpit, including: Shimano aero Levers  (will part 
out if requested)

-$40 Nitto 7cm Stem 

-$10 each (3 avail) Col de la vie tires, used but plenty of life (650Bx32)

-$55 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, nearly new) - For full price 
I'll include the Riv Reader where Grant announces he got a patent for the 
colored sidewalls! :)

-$25 pair Nifty Swifty Rainbows (650Bx33mm, ~3,500 miles, rear one shows 
pretty smooth center but definitely rideable)

-$12 one GEAX AKA 26"x2.2", lots of small knobs, neat looking, plenty of 
life left, looks almost new

-$35 pair Continental Gravity 26"x2.3", looks like a decent aggressive 
knobby, plenty of life left

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Edeluxe Light Source - LENR

[sameness]

Ha.

Felt's Virtue Nine One is already so light, I thought the limit had been 
> reached. After riding the new 559 EnduRAD bike, I realize Felt has raised 
> the bar again. Or lowered the bar. The weight is definitely lower, so maybe 
> that means the bar is lower now too. In this metaphor I think the "bar" is 
> higher, but literally the bike weighs less now. Either way, going from the 
> Virtue Nine to the new 559 bike was like going from a feather, to an even 
> lighter feather that's also new and different.


Jeff "559 in the 310" Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 12:51:09 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Word of the day is EnduRAD
>
> http://www.pinkbike.com/news/felt-bicycles-559-endurrad-enduro-specific-wheelsize-2014.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

[Mike On A Bike]

Could you describe why you love them?

On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:
>
> Also using it, and loving it!
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/
>
> - Frank
>
>
> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

[James Warren]

They roll very smoothly. The bike feels more efficient than it does with other similarly wide tires, while the 37 mm width gives so much confidence over bumps in the road. They felt very smooth on the fire road as well.-Original Message-
From: Mike On A Bike 
Sent: Apr 1, 2014 9:22 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

Could you describe why you love them?On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:Also using it, and loving it!https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/- FrankOn Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:





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[RBW] Berthoud Saddles

[Deacon Patrick]

Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they 
are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding 
like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 
month saddle guarantee, which is attractive.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles

[JL]

This might be an odd observation but I found that Berthoud Saddles are more 
slippery than Brooks. I ended up not preferring  Brooks

Jason

> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell they 
> are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, sounding 
> like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles also has a 6 
> month saddle guarantee, which is attractive.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
> www.OurHolyConception.org
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Re: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it

[cyclotourist]

Any insights on how they compare with Soma C-Lines?
Same size and weight (Interestingly, that's 10g per mm).

Cheers,
David

"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal





On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 10:03 PM, James Warren wrote:

>
> They roll very smoothly. The bike feels more efficient than it does with
> other similarly wide tires, while the 37 mm width gives so much confidence
> over bumps in the road. They felt very smooth on the fire road as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike On A Bike
> Sent: Apr 1, 2014 9:22 PM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Barlow Pass - using it, liking it
>
> Could you describe why you love them?
>
> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 10:24:44 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:
>>
>> Also using it, and loving it!
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/13526699433/in/photostream/
>>
>> - Frank
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, March 30, 2014 9:20:40 PM UTC-4, James Warren wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Berthoud Saddles

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Jason. Could you please tell my what you mean, what you experienced 
with the more slippery Berthoud and why you prefer it to the Brooks?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, April 1, 2014 11:23:18 PM UTC-6, JL wrote:
>
> This might be an odd observation but I found that Berthoud Saddles are 
> more slippery than Brooks. I ended up not preferring  Brooks
>
> Jason
>
> On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:07 PM, Deacon Patrick > 
> wrote:
>
> Anyone here have experience with Berthoud Saddles? From what I can tell 
> they are thicker, better quality, and more comfortable than Brooks are, 
> sounding like what people say of Brooks from 30 years ago. Boulder cycles 
> also has a 6 month saddle guarantee, which is attractive.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
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