[RBW] Re: FS: Olive green Sackville BarSack + Nitto BarSack Rack
Hi Tom, I'm interested in the bag.and rack combo. Can you send me a photo and I'll probably take it. Let me know if you can do a little better and I'll paypal you ASAP. You can email me at: bsmit...@jlohr.com thanks, Bruce On Monday, April 21, 2014 11:07:30 AM UTC-7, Tom Harrop wrote: Hi list, I've had this handlebar rack http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r8.htmand bag http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/basbs.htm combo for a couple of years and only used it once or twice, so it's time to find it a new home. I would say the condition is 'like new' except for a small scuff mark on the front of the bag. I also replaced the M8 bolts with wingnuts for easier on and off. Happy to send photos to interested parties. I looked up the invoice, and I paid $245 for the pair. I'm in Germany but I'm happy to ship it pretty much anywhere. Shipping from DE to the US with DHL (small packet, no insurance, probably one week to ten days in transit) is about €15, so how about PayPal US$150 shipped? If that seems unreasonable go ahead and make an offer. Please reply offline if interested. Tom Germany. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Stan's report: Longevity
I understand the nature of the term field-expedient, but in this case, the field-expedient approach would be to use a tube! I had Stan's sealant in the split-tube tubeless tires of my Moonlander for over a year, including the past winter when our count of below-zero (F) days numbered at least 50. I never had a sealant loss, and I never observed that I was losing air. I also experimented with adapting skinnier tires not rated for tubeless use. In this case I tried some economical Conti Speed Ride 700x42 on Stan's rims with Stan's valves and tape. The tires were porous and sealant squirted through the sidewalls like so many pinholes. Once they finally sealed, I had disastrous/explosive results when I attempted to ride them at more than 40psi. I switched to tubeless-compatible Racing Ralph's, and have been VERY happy with the ride quality. I've got a couple hundred commuting and adventure miles on that set-up with no problems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA
WETH: The urban part from Eliza Furnace Trail via the Hot Metal Bridge has only been open a year or so and is along the Monongahela and then the Youghiogheny Rivers and I've yet to ride it through although along the river I'll venture a guess that it's less than railroad grade at its steepest. I'm guessing the now open connector to Pittsburgh is a pretty even grade. Brief exceptions being approaches onto or off of causeways on the south end of Connellsville. The 18 miles from Connellsville to Ohiopyle have some short ups and downs as the trail moves between elevations the old rail grade surely took more gently but land changes since then. The two bridges right before Ohiopyle sneak up on you as the trail keeps on grade pretty well and are a nice picturesque reward. What I find more important than the functional grade of any section of the trail is the surface. The GAP has by far a better trail bed than the C O, this crushed limestone drains rain so well that it doesn't result in a spectrum of resistance to forward motion and is much nicer to non-fendered bikes and riders during any downpour and very soon after any rain stops. The impact of wet weather, even as distant as a week previous, can really impact forward progress on the west end of the CO. I've left Pittsburgh for Ohiopyle on the way to D.C.in a pouring rain without a likely end on the radar and were not as dramatically impacted in transit time as we feared. We were prepared for wet and the Yough Plaza Motel (as well as other place we stopped) has hose and nozzle for drivetrain hygiene. I cannot overemphasize stopping on a rigid schedule to snack, drink and take pictures. I encouraged my nephew, then 13, to bring his CamelBak so there was no shortage of water while on the bike. Our day to Ohiopyle was 72 miles and he, because of our pace of breaks and riding, overcame any apprehension and finished in good condition with no malady, ache or saddle sores. He lead the way around the little town to explore all the food options before picking one. I have to give a plug to Triangle Bike Rental in Pittsburgh who put together a a bike starting with a Raleigh Clubman frame, including bags, to fit him for the trip. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Monday, April 21, 2014 9:38:00 PM UTC-4, WETH wrote: Dear Patrick, last summer they did 30 plus miles on paved trails and roads. They are a year older, stronger, and more opinionated now! We are toying with 5 days for the trip with the following mileage days: 37 miles, 25 mileS, 27 miles, 20 miles, 44 miles (mostly downhill into Cumberland). We are giving them choices where possible. Adventure Cycling runs a family biking tour on the trail, and I am loosely following their distances. Dear Andy, that sounds like it was a memorable trip. Do you remember what the grade of the trail is like from Pittsburg to Ohiopyle? Am I right that it is more flat to rolling? I know the grade is pretty consistently upward from Ohiopyle through Meyersdale, hence the lower mileage on days 3 and 4. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Mark, I fully agree that carbon forks and frames are stronger than many on this list understand. I wonder when, if ever, there will be a generally available CF fork accepted for porteur style racks and loads or lowrider touring racks and loads. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Maybe it will have to be some new material, graphene is getting a lot of buzz as a future product though it's industrial applications are still in their infancy. Let's hope we are all still riding long enough to see the next new thing, and then some of us can harrumph it as we love to do haha. On Apr 22, 2014 9:07 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I fully agree that carbon forks and frames are stronger than many on this list understand. I wonder when, if ever, there will be a generally available CF fork accepted for porteur style racks and loads or lowrider touring racks and loads. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
i have a Peugeot UO8 that I converted over to a carbon fork about 10 years ago for my fixie. Thing is every big pothole, every sidewalk dismount and not knowing when it would add up to failure was a pain. They one day a friend borrowed it and just innocently laid it down on its side near some graven and it chipped the fork. The bike now sits unridden as I don't know about the integrity of the fork, wouldn't be the same case if I had a steel fork. I would sell it but it was my first bike I bought when I moved to NYC so its status is on hold as I have many irons in the fire. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 10:23 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: I've done both carbon and steel. I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. The Domane might be the better carbon bike for me though since it is supposed to be smoother than the Madone (speaking in the Trek lineup, of course) Honestly though, I'm not seeing the advantage of a carbon fork even though they sell them as having vibration dampening qualitiesespecially when my Riv rides so smooth. I don't see carbon riding that smooth, at least that has been my experience. To each his own though. On Monday, April 21, 2014 7:16:35 PM UTC-5, eflayer wrote: No matter how you fat you are, if you have never had the experience of comparing doing a climb on a 17 lb carbon bike and 22 + lb full steel (Rivendell), I suggest you give it a try and then get back to the group about your opinion of which you prefer. No doubt steel will hold up better through the millenia and won't crack in crash, but bikes don't crash that often and why not enjoy the ride in as many ways as you can? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
I prefer the steel frame even with a little extra weight since it is smoother than the madone I used to own. Interesting you should compare your steel frame with the Trek Madone. I am just about the same height and weight as my nephew. He owns a Trek Madone which he races in the local club programs. My road bike is a custom Spectrum 30th Anniversary built with nos Columbus tubing and Cinelli lugs and bottom bracket. He bought his Madone stock with a SRAM group, zipp carbon wheels and some sort of 700x23 tires. The Madone may be able to accommodate 25s, but it would be awful tight. My Spectrum has a mix of Stronglight and Campy parts, some custom modified by Peter Weigle. Wheels are JPW modified campy hubs and Mavic M2 rims sourced through Jan Heine's private stash - Jan sold them as part of a fund raiser. Tires are Grand Bois Extra Leger 700x30. We both regularly ride from the city to my father's (his grandfather's) house - about 60 miles one way using a mix of trails and bike friendly streets. One weekend on the ride up to my Dad's we traded bikes. The Trek is lighter with a higher gear ratio than my Spectrum and took somewhat less effort to move. But I experienced a lot more road feel than riding my Spectrum. As a result, by the end of the ride I was more fatigued and sore than at the end of the same ride on my Spectrum. My nephew wears padded shorts and riding gloves. I tried padded shorts once years ago, did not like and have never worn them since. His handle bars have thick padded tape. I use Japanese cotton tape. The different wheels and tires probably had more to do with the discomfort I experienced on the Madone than any other factor. And of course one could get a Calfee or possibly and Argonaut or other customs CF frame and fork that fit more comfortable wheels and tires. But then price becomes a factor. Madone list is almost $5k. Most full custom CF frames go for a lot more. I paid $3.3k for the full custom Spectrum. The JPW custom and rare NOS parts I have on the Spectrum would be pretty expensive assuming JPW even agreed to make more. But these could be more than adequately replaced with a Shimano touring group. Maybe this will change in time, but for the money you can get more comfort with pretty good speed going steel over CF. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTB: Saddle Support (nitto NR-20)
Hi bunch, Before plunking down the money for a new rack, I thought I'd inquire here about an old , retired, bag support that is no longer in use. Homer has become my quicker more nimble commuter and instead of a large rear rack, I just want to use a minimal saddle bag support. I'm not as crazy about the Carradice bag support, but I may also be interested in that as well. best, evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Saddle Support (nitto NR-20)
You want a R-14? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Coconutbill evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi bunch, Before plunking down the money for a new rack, I thought I'd inquire here about an old , retired, bag support that is no longer in use. Homer has become my quicker more nimble commuter and instead of a large rear rack, I just want to use a minimal saddle bag support. I'm not as crazy about the Carradice bag support, but I may also be interested in that as well. best, evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knard width -- questions for users
Good points; thanks Anne and Eric. Well, I'm better off not worrying about yet another tire purchase -- I'll enjoy what I have (should do more of that). On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm pretty sure that a Knard doesn't fit on the rear of the Fargo. It's not just the frame width that's an issue. The Knard is so wide it can interfere with the chain on a bike not designed for it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing it would not fit on the rear of a Fargo. My Niner had pretty exceptional tire clearance, and it didn't workably fit there. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Thanks for all the replies. So it looks as if a 3.0 won't fit on the stock FV1 fork, but I have been thinking of getting a new, lower trail fork Eric: any idea if the tire will fit in the rear of the FV1? The 650B idea is intriguing, but my experience is that additional circumference makes for better rolling; the Fargo already has a lowish bb. Anyway, no change immediately: the FFs, though harder and skinnier than my preference, are excellent, fast rolling tires and for most of my riding they are just fine. But if I go ahead with the new fork (will ask for biplane crown!) I'll be sure to spec a 77 mm width. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: I still have 3 Furious Freds to wear out, but I do miss the up-to-65 mm width of Big Apples and the as-low-as 12/16 psi pressures (the BAs had sturdier sidewalls and contained tubes). Reviews of the Knard make it very intriguing, and per my admittedly cursory measurements the Fargo has enough room between fork legs and stays to accommodate the tire. Gypsy By Trade measures a used 3.0 Knard on a 50 mm rim at 77.1 mm which is 3. Is this what you measure? How wide is your rim? Do you run it tubeless or with tubes? How low front and rear are you comfortable with and = what is the total of your weight + weight of baggage carried? = what terrain do you ride? The 44 mm wide SnoCat SLs should work very well with the Knard and give it a nice, wide and flat profile (the FFs measure a true 55 mm on these rims; they are labeled 50 mm). -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Knard width -- questions for users
That's CRAZY monk talk! Grin. Contentment is a wondrous thing. Now, if only I could be content with being content. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:42:05 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Good points; thanks Anne and Eric. Well, I'm better off not worrying about yet another tire purchase -- I'll enjoy what I have (should do more of that). On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm pretty sure that a Knard doesn't fit on the rear of the Fargo. It's not just the frame width that's an issue. The Knard is so wide it can interfere with the chain on a bike not designed for it. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm guessing it would not fit on the rear of a Fargo. My Niner had pretty exceptional tire clearance, and it didn't workably fit there. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Thanks for all the replies. So it looks as if a 3.0 won't fit on the stock FV1 fork, but I have been thinking of getting a new, lower trail fork Eric: any idea if the tire will fit in the rear of the FV1? The 650B idea is intriguing, but my experience is that additional circumference makes for better rolling; the Fargo already has a lowish bb. Anyway, no change immediately: the FFs, though harder and skinnier than my preference, are excellent, fast rolling tires and for most of my riding they are just fine. But if I go ahead with the new fork (will ask for biplane crown!) I'll be sure to spec a 77 mm width. On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I still have 3 Furious Freds to wear out, but I do miss the up-to-65 mm width of Big Apples and the as-low-as 12/16 psi pressures (the BAs had sturdier sidewalls and contained tubes). Reviews of the Knard make it very intriguing, and per my admittedly cursory measurements the Fargo has enough room between fork legs and stays to accommodate the tire. Gypsy By Trade measures a used 3.0 Knard on a 50 mm rim at 77.1 mm which is 3. Is this what you measure? How wide is your rim? Do you run it tubeless or with tubes? How low front and rear are you comfortable with and = what is the total of your weight + weight of baggage carried? = what terrain do you ride? The 44 mm wide SnoCat SLs should work very well with the Knard and give it a nice, wide and flat profile (the FFs measure a true 55 mm on these rims; they are labeled 50 mm). -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Congratulations on the new bike. I'll be curious to learn how much weight the bike can handle f + r without feeling awkward, and about longer term experience with the Kojaks. On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Michael Ullmer mjull...@gmail.com wrote: I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is pictured without pedals. I assume we could spec that Roadeo with the same parts, and we'd probably be 2 to 3 pounds heavier and about $1500-$2000 less expensive? Somewhere in there. If both bikes had the same tires, I bet they'd both be awesome. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:12:08 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
Well I had a grand laugh at myself on today's ride. I kept trying to pinpoint the source of the click. Shifting forward, back, left, right. Good thing I'm on remote dirt roads! Grin. The laugh came when I remembered that my brain doesn't process sound directionality with any accuracy at all. Sometimes lack of memory leads to dumber things than other times. I couldn't stop laughing at my foolishness for at least 30 minutes. Grin. So the plan is to grease the pedals once grease arrives this week. I'll be swapping the bottom bracket anyway. I may never isolate what the sours is, but I sure hope I solve it. Thanks for all the input! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Reviews/Experience Desired - Kucharik Six Panel Wool Shorts
Hey David - Thanks for the prompt reply. I surmise that you have no pad or chamios. Having lived in the Inland Empire (late '80s and again in the early '90s), and run in the Box Springs and up Mt Roubidoux - I'm having trouble conceiving of an activity there without sweat. I'm guessing I sweat lots more than you. I will contemplate riding without the chamios. Regards, Corwin On Monday, April 21, 2014 10:46:40 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Kucharik makes good stuff. Can't speak to this particular model, as I have their Traditional shorts http://www.kucharikclothing.com/wool-shorts-traditional-p-347.html On those, sizing is true. They don't over heat me. I'd prefer chamios to the synth pad in there, but really no problems with what I have. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:26 PM, Corwin ern...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Anybody ever bought and worn these shorts: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/wool-short-6-panel-p-446.html ? I've always ridden with Andiamo skins type underwear under thin cotton shorts. So far, no problems - but I think I'm avoiding chafing and other problems based mostly on luck. My saddle usually gets a fair amount of sweat on long and/or hot rides. I'm contemplating an investment in the Kucharik six panel wool shorts and wondering: 1) Do they run true to size? 2) I don't feel a need for a pad - but am curious if the chamios would take up much of the sweat I put out. Or will the wool just heat me up more and cause more sweat/moisture? Thanks in advance. Corwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Great looking bike! May you ride it with abandon! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Off this topicI'll be lookin for this Atlantis. As far as I know you'll have the only Atlantis in Winnipeg because I know rivs are scarce in Winnipeg...I've see the Cervelo and the Surly bike On Monday, April 21, 2014 9:19:01 AM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote: I understand, yet don't fully agree with the safety concerns of a carbon fork. If something jams in your wheel, you're likely going down regardless and your fork is likely going to be toast regardless. For the record, I have a Cervelo R3 (full carbon), Giant TCX (Aluminum/Carbon), did have a Bridgestone road frame (steel, more to come on that), Ti SSCX with carbon fork, and a surly steamroller. Oh, and I have just bought a used Atlantis... :) The Cervelo R3 was made with a more upright, 'classics' geo a year or two back when I got it. I've ridden it on a few 100 mile rides, going hard and have been amazingly comfortable the entire time, and that's on 25mm tires! Maybe it's the spaghetti-sized seat stays that soak up the vibrations, but it is truly a dreamy ride quality. I used to have a wonderful Bridgestone steel road frame, with Suntour Cyclone 2 drivetrain and Sugino Mighty Competition. I never found out the model. I actually found the complete bike in a pile of garbage at a construction site. It looked brand new, hah! Then something got caught in my front wheel while riding at maybe 15-20km/h. I immediately flipped over the bars and woke up in the hospital a few hours later. Thank god I had a helmet on (which at that time was not normal for me). The steel fork was totally destroyed. I doubt having a carbon fork would have made things worse or better. I've had a lot of nasty head-on crashes with my CX bikes, both with carbon forks, and no issues. They are a lot stronger than one might think. In the end, I agree - I've felt great on aluminum, carbon, steel, and ti. Rider position, tires, saddle, and wheels make way more of a difference than frame material. On Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:31:22 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: I'm talking ride quality only, not function. Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full. Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc. I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them. Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on... I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded leather saddle in the documentary I saw). Now function is another thing altogether. You want braze-ons and wide tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure. I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm tire-ed race bike. I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle rages. Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their quality bikes, no matter what the material is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Michael, That is a great build. I love and use both the slickersack and Saddlesack on a daily basis. I hope you have many wonderful adventures on the bike. Erl On Monday, April 21, 2014 5:59:48 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Reviews/Experience Desired - Kucharik Six Panel Wool Shorts
I did not these because of poor fit issues. They were tight in some places, but loose and baggy in others, I much prefer Ibex with padded inserts. Ibex has just the right amount of lycra-spandex for me. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 1:26:58 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote: Anybody ever bought and worn these shorts: http://www.kucharikclothing.com/wool-short-6-panel-p-446.html ? I've always ridden with Andiamo skins type underwear under thin cotton shorts. So far, no problems - but I think I'm avoiding chafing and other problems based mostly on luck. My saddle usually gets a fair amount of sweat on long and/or hot rides. I'm contemplating an investment in the Kucharik six panel wool shorts and wondering: 1) Do they run true to size? 2) I don't feel a need for a pad - but am curious if the chamios would take up much of the sweat I put out. Or will the wool just heat me up more and cause more sweat/moisture? Thanks in advance. Corwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Saddle Support (nitto NR-20)
I have a Silver Hupe if you think that would work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Saddle Support (nitto NR-20)
Sorry, Michael, but No, no, NO! Please don't use a Silver Hupe on any bike that care anything at all about. The Hupes have left a long trail of destroyed seatstay paint in their awful, evil wake. If you hate your bike, or have an enemy with a bike, by all means use one or give one (to your enemy). --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Apr 22, 2014, at 2:31 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Silver Hupe if you think that would work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Saddle Support (nitto NR-20)
I have taken Mr. Chen up on his offer. thank you for the offer, and also, thank you for deterring me from the offer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Smart lookin' bike. On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:53 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: Michael, That is a great build. I love and use both the slickersack and Saddlesack on a daily basis. I hope you have many wonderful adventures on the bike. Erl On Monday, April 21, 2014 5:59:48 PM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: I just completed the build of a bike I've been putting together with a lot of parts from iBOBs and RBWs. Thank you for your contributions, you know who you are. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120703118@N08/sets/72157644200605064/ It handles SO well! I loaded up the front slickersack yesterday with a lot of weight and it was smooth and not twitchy at all. Today I loaded up the Saddlesack with about 15 pounds and it didn't even feel like there was hardly any weight in the back. I've tried to do both of these things on a cross-check and the bike handled horribly. The 2.0 Kojaks were also a recommendation from many RBWs and I couldn't be happier with them. Again, thanks everyone! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
No idea, Zack, but I feel your pain. The best solution I know whilst waiting for the solution is to embrace the pain as PART of new drivetrain day. Grin. With abandon, Patrick, who isn't really helpful. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:10:47 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
Bill - Sounds about right. CF likely will be lighter than a similarly kitted steel. Although per my message above, if you wanted to do full out loaded touring on a CF bike, I wonder how thick the tubes (and thus heavy they would have to be). Custom CF bikes as well as the higher end off the shelf CF are more expensive than decent steel competition. I do not know whether this reflects market or manufacturing demands. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:21:49 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: They didn't publish the frame weight in BQ. Calfees site has a page for the adventure series, and says the complete bike pictured weighs 16.5lb without fenders, and would retail for ~$6300 complete (SRAM Force). It is pictured without pedals. I assume we could spec that Roadeo with the same parts, and we'd probably be 2 to 3 pounds heavier and about $1500-$2000 less expensive? Somewhere in there. If both bikes had the same tires, I bet they'd both be awesome. On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 12:12:08 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: For that matter, does anyone recall the frame + fork weight (bare frame and fork) of that Calfee randoneur reveiwed in BQ? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: If you were to build the same, sport-touring frame and fork (we can take the Roadeo as a well known to all example of the design I mean) with similar clearances, similar braze-ons, and with similar long-term durability, out of top quality steel and out of carbon fiber, how much weight would you save with the carbon fiber? I'm not concerned in this discussion with the catastrophic fail rate of CF versus steel; I'm interested in a CF frameset that under the same normal use as the Roadeo would last as long as the Roadeo. Nor am I concerned about building into the steel frameset any extra measure of safety; just your typical top quality steel sport-tourer type of frame. That is to say: no stupid light gauge or design on either frameset, nor any scrupulous over building. I know that you can buy a CF racing frame that weighs less than 2 lb in a small size, but I want to compare a carbon fiber frame and fork that are as durable and have as much clearance as their steel counterparts. Use whatever strength-to-weight tweaking tricks you can; just have the CF frameset be as long-term-reliable as the steel one made from top quality tubing. Again, how much weight difference? So much of our discussions about CF versus steel seem to be comparing apples to kumkwats. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
and there's deacon patrick with the best advice i have ever received on the site :-) without bugaboos how would we know how awesome it is when everything works! (any help with the cassette/drivetrain bugaboo also welcome) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
If you get any good at implementing that advice, let me know your secret, Zack! Chagrined grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:40:54 PM UTC-6, Zack wrote: and there's deacon patrick with the best advice i have ever received on the site :-) without bugaboos how would we know how awesome it is when everything works! (any help with the cassette/drivetrain bugaboo also welcome) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
What kind of chatter? On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
Hey Patrick - I met to respond regarding your click but got distracted (not a surprise). I had a similar experience while riding the STP (Seattle to Portland) last year and the guy I happened to be riding alongside, he was on a Riv, said that it often is a seat issue. Sure enough when I got home the next morning, I tightened the seat clamp and the noise went away. This has happened once since then and the same cure worked. Regards Dennis in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
chatter: it sounds like the chain is rubbing against something, but i can't see where it's happening. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
Too tight against a fender or rack screw? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Pedal Stroke Click
That I can try straight off! They were all fairly tight, post and both seat clamp bolts. Now they're tighter. We'll see how it goes next ride! Thanks, Dennis. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, April 22, 2014 7:08:45 PM UTC-6, Dennis Hogan wrote: Hey Patrick - I met to respond regarding your click but got distracted (not a surprise). I had a similar experience while riding the STP (Seattle to Portland) last year and the guy I happened to be riding alongside, he was on a Riv, said that it often is a seat issue. Sure enough when I got home the next morning, I tightened the seat clamp and the noise went away. This has happened once since then and the same cure worked. Regards Dennis in PDX -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax
I have a bottle of chain saw bar and chain oil on the way. I presume I reuse an empty 2 or 4 oz bottle for application? Or what do you chainsaw guys do? Swig it and spit out a drop per ling from between your bearded teeth? Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 7 speed cassette question
If that cassette is held together with screws or rivets they will need to be removed. The heads of the screws or rivets take up a little room bearing on the spacer and cause the outermost cog to be too far outboard. You are probably hearing the chain rubbing on the dropout. It's happened to me. Tom Nezovich. In Cleveland Sent from my iPad On Apr 22, 2014, at 8:10 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: so i am all set up with the 7 speed cassette, but am having an issue I can't figure out. I picked up the 13-34 7 speed cassette, a 4.5mm spacer, and a shimano hg91 7/8 speed chain. put the spacer on behind the cassette, tightened the cassette, adjusted rear derailer limit screws, and everything works peachy EXCEPT i am getting chatter in the smallest cog. Every other cog is fine. thoughts on what this might be? it's ruining new drivetrain day. ahah. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Finished build - Thank you to everyone who contributed parts.
Great looking and well equipped bike you've got! Very 'not dumb!' :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: GAP Trail from Confluence to Rockwood, PA
Erl what a great 'pre-getaway' trip! You covered some of the ground in hoping to do with my dad in may. Thanks for the report and the pictures. And I totally applaud your pace! I just had a conversation with a tri inclined friend tonight about average crushing speeds and it was clear he and I had different goals in our cycling.. 18 vice 12 mph in average! :) Hope to catch you on the trail some time soon! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
