date:20140618

Och! George! I am so sorry to learn of your thrombosis and thyroid. Yowza! 
I am glad my photos can help you experience biking vicariously. I know that 
vicarious adventure is one of the great gifts to me when I have extended 
periods that I can't get out.

In case it helps, here is a prayer of Thanksgiving I find wonderfully 
helpful for those times when despair or self pity trample on my 
soul: http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=415. I find that the gift of 
shifting my attitude to happiness rather than despair is like shifting from 
22mm tires at 100 psi to 38mm tires at 40 psi -- the road amazingly gets 
smoother and the journey more joyous.

If I may, I'd like to include you in my prayers. May God startle you with 
joy!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:10:35 AM UTC-6, George Millwood wrote:

 I'm lying on the couch at home on a grey day.  I have a grade three 
 compression stocking on my left leg from toes to groin.  This is because I 
 have acquired a large deep vein thrombosis which extends from my ankle to 
 above my knee, multiple pulmonary embolisms in my lungs and I've just 
 returned from a visit to the ENT Surgeon who has informed me that my 
 thyroid gland is 15 to 20 time the normal size, full of large nodules, and 
 will have to be removed.  The weather is glum; nasty wind and a promise of 
 rain but your photos really gave me an uplift just when i was wallowing in 
 self pity.  There will be better days and I will ride through fields of 
 wildflowers again and while I can't I have your marvelous photos.  Thanks.



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[RBW] WTB: Large Rando Bag

I have been waiting to buy a large tan Acorn bag.  Ron sent out the 
restocking notice at 9:00 eastern time but when I tried to buy one at 5:30 
AM this morning, they were already sold out.  I guess they all went to the 
west coast.

Does anyone have either this bag or a large Bertoud they would like to sell?

Michael


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[RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come loose 
twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening it 
down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some 
arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems 
more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 
ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started looking 
for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold forged, 
pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-speed Bleriot build question. MTB or Road derailers?

2014-06-18 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 06/18/2014 12:23 AM, Michael wrote:

Very interesting info. And specific info. Just what I was wondering.

I like a 12-32t, 28-36-46 setup. I live in rolling terrain that gets hilly the 
further west I go. The granny gear makes me confident that I'll never have to 
turn down a ride for lack of gearing.

I forgot to mention that I am thinking of doing it as a friction shifting 
build, which opens me up to any derailer that can handle a 32T rear cog.
So I guess a Shimano CX70 up front, and that Shimano rear derailer mentioned 
above would work.

I wonder how much weight savings they would be over Deore stuff. Not that it 
would matter, but no use adding more weight to drag up hills onto the bike.





Before you start worrying about weight differences in derailleurs, you 
might consider whether you've optimized the weight of everything else 
you carry.  Have you weighed your tools lately?  Do you routinely empty 
your bag of the loose change you collect at rest stops at stores?  Do 
you /really/ need that humongous bag? And let's not even talk about 
trimming weight off the engine...



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[RBW] Re: 8-speed Bleriot build question. MTB or Road derailers?

I'm a bit of a derailer snob, so I understand your qualms about the basic 
Deore rear mech. My Heron runs a nice, light, silver mid-90's Deore XT, and 
another bike uses a lovely and rare US-made Precision Billet derailer from 
the same era. If you want a nice Shimano MTB rear derailer, you can't go 
wrong with XTR bits. The newest Dyna-Sys 10-speed parts might be a little 
too group-specific (and pricey), but anything before that will work fine 
with friction. Finding one on Ebay that hasn't been scratched-to-heck could 
be tough, though. For new, those MicroSHIFT mechs Riv sells are nice 
looking.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:56:49 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 MTB derailers or Road derailers.

 What's the diff, if anything?

 I know RBW seems to like MTB derailers for all their current build 
 kits (Deore).

 Any benefits to Road 8-speed derailers over MTB?

 I am under the assumption that any 8-speed Road parts are going to have to 
 be NOS or used, because looks like 8-speed derailers don't exist anymore in 
 current production offerings as of 2014?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

2014-06-18 Thread nawrock

Deacon, 

The Silver QB is my favorite color for that bike. Very nice. 
This is a great early summer for lush green and wildflowers on the front range. 

Dave Nawrocki 
Ft. Collins, CO 

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:34:06 PM 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble! 

Thanks, Hugh. No worries. I didn't miss it, at its persistence. Been chugging 
bone broth by the gallon. Grin. Seems to be knitting together nicely after just 
4 weeks. 

With abandon, 
Patrick 

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:16:53 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 

Deacon, 

I love the photography most excellent! I didn't know you hurt your rib? How did 
I miss that? Glad you're alright though. 

The quick beam looks fantastic. 

Cheers, 

~Hugh 














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Re: [RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

Thanks, Dave. Like you, I am partial to the silver. Maybe it comes from 
getting up at 6am (well, 4am and waking my dad asking if it was 6 yet, 
until I could tell time) to watch the Lone Ranger. Hi Ho! Silver! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:45:21 AM UTC-6, Dave Nawrocki wrote:

 Deacon,

 The Silver QB is my favorite color for that bike. Very nice.
 This is a great early summer for lush green and wildflowers on the front 
 range.

 Dave Nawrocki
 Ft. Collins, CO

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 Thanks, Hugh. No worries. I didn't miss it, at its persistence. Been 
 chugging bone broth by the gallon. Grin. Seems to be knitting together 
 nicely after just 4 weeks.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:16:53 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:

 Deacon,

 I love the photography most excellent! I didn't know you hurt your rib? 
 How did I miss that? Glad you're alright though.

 The quick beam looks fantastic.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh





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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-speed Bleriot build question. MTB or Road derailers?

The 10 speed Shimano MTB Dyna-Sys parts aren't only group-specific, they
are incompatible with road indexed shifters.  The cable pull is different.
Folks on here and elsewhere say to use a 9 speed MTB derailer if you want a
10 speed indexed setup.

I'm using a long cage silver Chorus 10 speed (early '00s) on my Rivendell
with an 11-30 9 speed Shimano cassette and Shimano bar end shifters and
it's working fine with 46-36-26 chainrings in the front.  The Chorus was
rated to handle 29, so jumping to 30 doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

I've thought about going 11-34 or even 12-36 on the back to try to get me
up one particular hill on our local brevets that I have walked every time
this year.  But I feel this would require a MTB derailer, so I haven't done
it yet.  The new derailer I really like the looks of is the new Suntour
XCE.  It's basically a polished silver Microshift and it is pretty.  But it
comes at a premium, I've seen it online for around $100 whereas the Deore
can be had for less than $50.  I really want it though so maybe I'll sell
some more stuff I'm not using and get it.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a bit of a derailer snob, so I understand your qualms about the basic
 Deore rear mech. My Heron runs a nice, light, silver mid-90's Deore XT, and
 another bike uses a lovely and rare US-made Precision Billet derailer from
 the same era. If you want a nice Shimano MTB rear derailer, you can't go
 wrong with XTR bits. The newest Dyna-Sys 10-speed parts might be a little
 too group-specific (and pricey), but anything before that will work fine
 with friction. Finding one on Ebay that hasn't been scratched-to-heck could
 be tough, though. For new, those MicroSHIFT mechs Riv sells are nice
 looking.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.


 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:56:49 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 MTB derailers or Road derailers.

 What's the diff, if anything?

 I know RBW seems to like MTB derailers for all their current build
 kits (Deore).

 Any benefits to Road 8-speed derailers over MTB?

 I am under the assumption that any 8-speed Road parts are going to have
 to be NOS or used, because looks like 8-speed derailers don't exist anymore
 in current production offerings as of 2014?

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition version. 
They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is really great. 

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark, 

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about to 
 adventure with my old new to me Atlantis. 

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks like 
 my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh



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[RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

Oh the Atlantis for sure. But there are a few factors working against it - 
much larger and heavier tires with a more aggressive tread, heavier rims, a 
dynamo hub, and about 15 pounds more weight to move along. My cross bike is 
built up to accelerate as easily as possible, so it was no surprise that 
they felt very different. Both great bikes, just built for different 
purposes. 

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:43:57 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 You mentioned weight.

  

 Which bike is harder to pedal along, the Atlantis or the 'cross bike? 



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Re: [RBW] 8-speed Bleriot build question. MTB or Road derailers?

2014-06-18 Thread Mark Chandler

microSHIFT still produces 8-speed road and MTB components.


On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 8:56 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 MTB derailers or Road derailers.

 What's the diff, if anything?

 I know RBW seems to like MTB derailers for all their current build
 kits (Deore).

 Any benefits to Road 8-speed derailers over MTB?

 I am under the assumption that any 8-speed Road parts are going to have to
 be NOS or used, because looks like 8-speed derailers don't exist anymore in
 current production offerings as of 2014?

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[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Garth

How long is your ratchet Michael ?The longer the better, and the longer 
it is, the more efficient your input is .  Leverage brother, leverage !  

I use a 16 Craftsman torque wrench these days, and boy I wish I had one 
these back in the day !  It was always difficult to get enough torque with 
a small ratchet or the Campy peanut butter wrench. 

As for VO cranks, hmmm, I considered them many times, but each time I have 
this nagging sense that says look elsewhere. Their Touring crank is not 
even offered anymore, which says to me that their stuff comes and goes a 
bit too easily for my liking.  

And I agree, the XD crank is alright, but by no means great . Sugino makes 
others though :) 
https://www.benscycle.com/p-910-sugino-alpina-2-500d-crankset.aspx
http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/road-1-2-3-4-5-6/
or just get the XD-350 for less $$, the same XD crank but with a 36t steel 
middle ring !  No biggie to me, adds 40grams, costs much less $$ . 
https://www.benscycle.com/p-915-sugino-xd-350-crankset.aspx
and others, triples and doubles  . .  . .
http://www.davincitandems.com/comp.html
http://www.xxcycle.com/crankset-stronglight-impact-compact,,en.php

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30:05 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come 
 loose twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening 
 it down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some 
 arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems 
 more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 
 ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started 
 looking for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold 
 forged, pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

 Michael


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Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

I had the same problem with a Sugino XD600 on a long brevet with the left
side crankarm.  I replaced the left side crank arm along with the bottom
bracket and torqued the crank arm down to 40 ft/lbs per specs.

The left side arm only cost $23 and the BB was less than $20, so maybe this
would be an option for you as well vs. a new crankset?


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 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come
 loose twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening
 it down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some
 arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems
 more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8
 ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started
 looking for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold
 forged, pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

 Michael

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

why pay that for the XD350 when you can get the XD600 for $1 more?

http://www.ebikestop.com/sugino_xd600_78_speed_175mm_263646t_74110mm_crankset_bottom_bracket_not_included-CR1031.php

...unless you really want a steel middle ring, in which case carry on.

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

How long is your ratchet Michael ?The longer the better, and the
longer it is, the more efficient your input is . Leverage brother,
leverage !

I use a 16 Craftsman torque wrench these days, and boy I wish I had one
these back in the day ! It was always difficult to get enough torque with
a small ratchet or the Campy peanut butter wrench.

As for VO cranks, hmmm, I considered them many times, but each time I have
this nagging sense that says look elsewhere. Their Touring crank is not
even offered anymore, which says to me that their stuff comes and goes a
bit too easily for my liking.

And I agree, the XD crank is alright, but by no means great . Sugino makes
others though :)
https://www.benscycle.com/p-910-sugino-alpina-2-500d-crankset.aspx
http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/road-1-2-3-4-5-6/
or just get the XD-350 for less $$, the same XD crank but with a 36t steel
middle ring ! No biggie to me, adds 40grams, costs much less $$ .
https://www.benscycle.com/p-915-sugino-xd-350-crankset.aspx
and others, triples and doubles . . . .
http://www.davincitandems.com/comp.html
http://www.xxcycle.com/crankset-stronglight-impact-compact,,en.php

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:30:05 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come
loose twice. The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening
it down after reinstalling. I have never been ham fisted and now with some
arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are. The second time seems
more problematic. I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8
ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started
looking for a replacement. The VO looks like a good value at $195. Cold
forged, pinned rings. Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Eric Norris

I've had very good luck with VO cranks. Currently have them on three bikes, 
including my PBP2015 Bleriot.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

On Jun 18, 2014, at 3:30 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come loose 
 twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening it down 
 after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some arthritis 
 often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems more 
 problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 ratchet arm 
 and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.
 
 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started looking 
 for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold forged, 
 pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?
 
 Michael
 
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[RBW] All you need is a change in perspective

2014-06-18 Thread Manuel Acosta

There are those days where at the beginning of the ride you start second 
guessing yourself. You don't think your fit enough for the ride or you 
don't think you brought enough clothes. Or you aren't looking forward to 
doing the same ride you've done a ton of times before. 
Lets say I was a combination of these three and on top of this I was filled 
with guilt for not spending fathers day with my father. 

I was close to canceling the ride. Good thing I didn't because there was a 
big group waiting for me at Ritual coffee. 13 people showed up. A few new 
ones, Brad, Brooks and Theresa, a couple regulars, Kurt, Emily, Tommy, Puck 
Brendan, a couple of not so regulars, special guest Boyz of the Hoods 
member, Irving; and two who was leaving on a tour down to Mexico Ely and 
Omar. 

Even though I planned the ride I had better folks leading most of it. 
Irving gracefully lead us to the top of sweeny ridge, Kurt took us to a new 
section that included sand, pump tracks and fences and Brendan showed the 
alternative route to taking HW1 to get to Devil's slide. 

I find it amazing to get new perspectives on rides I've done in the past. 
Even with all the crashing we still got home in one piece AND with enough 
time for father's day dinner. Glad I can count on my friends to keep me 
motivated to not only ride but to have fun while doing it.

Pictures proved that all you need on the ride are a couple of friends and 
fences to bypass:
https://flic.kr/s/aHsjYjEhTV

Manny I guess I'll have fun now Acosta

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

2014-06-18 Thread hsmitham

Where did you purchase the bag man?

~Hugh

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition 
 version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is 
 really great. 

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark, 

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about to 
 adventure with my old new to me Atlantis. 

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks like 
 my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh



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[RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

2014-06-18 Thread hsmitham

Well said.

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:11:39 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Oh the Atlantis for sure. But there are a few factors working against it - 
 much larger and heavier tires with a more aggressive tread, heavier rims, a 
 dynamo hub, and about 15 pounds more weight to move along. My cross bike is 
 built up to accelerate as easily as possible, so it was no surprise that 
 they felt very different. Both great bikes, just built for different 
 purposes. 

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 9:43:57 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

 You mentioned weight.

  

 Which bike is harder to pedal along, the Atlantis or the 'cross bike? 



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[RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread David Banzer

The crank arm is probably toast. Once it starts loosening while riding, usually 
means the tapers started rounding out. Even with more torque, it'll eventually 
work its way out again. 
David

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Re: [RBW] All you need is a change in perspective

2014-06-18 Thread James Warren

Proto-Taiwan-LongHunq being used for real. Awesome! Good purchase, Kurt!

-Jim W.

-Original Message- From: Manuel Acosta Sent: Jun 18, 2014 10:09 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] All you need is a change in perspective There are those days where at the beginning of the ride you start second guessing yourself. You don't think your fit enough for the ride or you don't think you brought enough clothes. Or you aren't looking forward to doing the same ride you've done a ton of times before. Lets say I was a combination of these three and on top of this I was filled with guilt for not spending fathers day with my father. I was close to canceling the ride. Good thing I didn't because there was a big group waiting for me at Ritual coffee. 13 people showed up. A few new ones, Brad, Brooks and Theresa, a couple regulars, Kurt, Emily, Tommy, Puck Brendan, a couple of not so regulars, special guest Boyz of the Hoods member, Irving; and two who was leaving on a tour down to Mexico Ely and Omar. Even though I planned the ride I had better folks leading most of it. Irving gracefully lead us to the top of sweeny ridge, Kurt took us to a new section that included sand, pump tracks and fences and Brendan showed the alternative route to taking HW1 to get to Devil's slide. I find it amazing to get new perspectives on rides I've done in the past. Even with all the crashing we still got home in one piece AND with enough time for father's day dinner. Glad I can count on my friends to keep me motivated to not only ride but to have fun while doing it.Pictures proved that all you need on the ride are a couple of friends and fences to bypass:https://flic.kr/s/aHsjYjEhTVManny "I guess I'll have fun now" Acosta-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

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[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread grant

Hi Michael,
The first time it came off did the damage that allowed the second time it 
came off to happen more easily. The steel spindle rounded out the squarish 
aluminum hole in the crank. There are other nice cranks out there, but the 
Sugino XD is the most consistent, reliable crank I've ever run into. Even 
so, we'll intro a new crank in a year or two. Not worth waiting for, but 
it's a fact. 

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:30:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come 
 loose twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening 
 it down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some 
 arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems 
 more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 
 ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started 
 looking for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold 
 forged, pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

 Michael


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[RBW] Re: All you need is a change in perspective

Great shots, Manny! Glad the ride helped recreate the world. What are pump 
tracks?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

That was my suspicion too, but the only alternative factor was that I 
stopped riding as soon as I sensed some looseness.  I knocked on doors 
until I found an 8 mm allen wrench.  I'm going to give it one more pop 
before writing it off.  This bike has SS couplers, so the left crank gets 
removed regularly. I probably just didn't tighten it enough the last time I 
reinstalled it.

I agree the XD 600 is a very reliable crank.  But I live in a town with and 
ride a lot of dirt roads, and wet conditions (but much less since I retired 
and stopped commuting), so I have to take the crank apart a couple of times 
a year to throughly clean the middle and inner ring.  At those times I end 
up cussing the hidden bolt and loose spacers.

I have the Alpina dbl (48/34) sitting on my old Marinoni stage racing 
bike... in the basement, unused, but think the kind of riding I do on this 
bike calls for a triple.

I have the DaVinci (actually made by White Ind) on both the Saluki and the 
tandem and really like them.  At $220 plus rings, they are neither cheap 
nor crazy expensive.

Until last year I never even thought about pinned rings but put them on the 
tandem and have been amazed at how well they shift.  Tandems give 
notoriously poor front end shifting and a set of hi end rings really 
improved things.

Michael

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:41:49 PM UTC-4, grant wrote:

 Hi Michael,
 The first time it came off did the damage that allowed the second time it 
 came off to happen more easily. The steel spindle rounded out the squarish 
 aluminum hole in the crank. There are other nice cranks out there, but the 
 Sugino XD is the most consistent, reliable crank I've ever run into. Even 
 so, we'll intro a new crank in a year or two. Not worth waiting for, but 
 it's a fact. 

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:30:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come 
 loose twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening 
 it down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some 
 arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems 
 more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 
 ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic.

 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started 
 looking for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold 
 forged, pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

 Michael



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[RBW] Re: All you need is a change in perspective

2014-06-18 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Pump track is a bike track that's mostly whoop-dee-doos. The idea being 
that you build momentum by pumping the bike over the humps rather than 
pedaling. Of course you gotta start out on top. 


On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 10:54:37 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Great shots, Manny! Glad the ride helped recreate the world. What are 
 pump tracks?

 With abandon,
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[RBW] The Perfect Bag

Not yet, but we are getting closer. Like a lot of people on this list I 
have gone back and forth about front vs. rear bags.  BTW, both my Saluki  
Ram are indifferent to either the Acorn bag in the front and the Barley Bag 
on the SQR behind the seat.  So which to use?

I like the convenience of the front bags.  They open and close easily, and 
are right there when I strip off arm warmers or reach for a wind/rain 
break.  But when I stop at a store or a cafe they are cumbersome to get off 
then back on the bike.

I like the spaciousness of the big seat bags and the SQR is absolutely the 
fastest on and off the bike.  When I was commuting I often would get it off 
the bike and be on my way much faster than guys could get there bad packs 
off.  But the buckles on the Barley bag were annoying.  It seemed like 
every time I finished buckling it up I remembered something else that 
needed to go in.

Today we installed hidden releases under the buckles, so now the bags open 
quickly, even if they aren't right at my finger tips as I ride along.

https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A255Z2WMJX49q

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

I ordered the camper long flap and bagman expedition from SJS Cycles. Good 
price and good shipping. 

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Where did you purchase the bag man?

 ~Hugh

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition 
 version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is 
 really great. 

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark, 

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about to 
 adventure with my old new to me Atlantis. 

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks like 
 my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh



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[RBW] Re: Wanna Join? Meandoneering in Colorado

2014-06-18 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Not sure when it's gonna happen, but next time I'm visiting the fam in CO, 
you're on my list. 


On Friday, June 6, 2014 5:11:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I should add that single track bikepacking is also always an option, if 
 that is your preference.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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[RBW] Re: Crown Zellerbach Trail; Lots of Gravel and Some Industrial Spelunking

2014-06-18 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

abandoned train lines :-) 

On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:26:19 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Fantastic route, and a detour to an abandoned railroad tunnel...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157644960262751/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

2014-06-18 Thread Hugh Smitham

I just found out that they don't make the expedition with the
stay's...according to Ben's cycle what you have was a temporary fix till
they refined the stainless steel version which is just a large hoop
attached to the saddle rails. IMO what you have is the way to go, as it
allows a greater load and distributes that load between the rails ( a weak
point IMO) and the seat stay's.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:

 I ordered the camper long flap and bagman expedition from SJS Cycles. Good
 price and good shipping.


 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Where did you purchase the bag man?

 ~Hugh

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition
 version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is
 really great.

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark,

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about
 to adventure with my old new to me Atlantis.

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks
 like my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

Oh really? That is not cool. I've heard of more than a few brooks saddle
rails snapping from that. Not to mention the fact that it acts like a bit
of a spring. I love this support. It is rock solid and doesn't put undo
stress on the saddle rails. I could strap a pile of firewood to this thing
(aka I have) and not worry about it.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just found out that they don't make the expedition with the
 stay's...according to Ben's cycle what you have was a temporary fix till
 they refined the stainless steel version which is just a large hoop
 attached to the saddle rails. IMO what you have is the way to go, as it
 allows a greater load and distributes that load between the rails ( a weak
 point IMO) and the seat stay's.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I ordered the camper long flap and bagman expedition from SJS Cycles.
 Good price and good shipping.


 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Where did you purchase the bag man?

 ~Hugh

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition
 version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is
 really great.

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark,

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about
 to adventure with my old new to me Atlantis.

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks
 like my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis s24p shakedown ride

2014-06-18 Thread Hugh Smitham

Yea...I may need to look for an old one someone is selling or have a new
lower manufactured. But first I need to just use what I have and see how it
works.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh really? That is not cool. I've heard of more than a few brooks saddle
 rails snapping from that. Not to mention the fact that it acts like a bit
 of a spring. I love this support. It is rock solid and doesn't put undo
 stress on the saddle rails. I could strap a pile of firewood to this thing
 (aka I have) and not worry about it.


 On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I just found out that they don't make the expedition with the
 stay's...according to Ben's cycle what you have was a temporary fix till
 they refined the stainless steel version which is just a large hoop
 attached to the saddle rails. IMO what you have is the way to go, as it
 allows a greater load and distributes that load between the rails ( a weak
 point IMO) and the seat stay's.

 ~Hugh

 “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
 moving.” ― Albert Einstein

 http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




 On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I ordered the camper long flap and bagman expedition from SJS Cycles.
 Good price and good shipping.


 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:28:18 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Where did you purchase the bag man?

 ~Hugh

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 7:10:18 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:

 Wow that Atlantis looks awesome! I'm running the Bagman Expedition
 version. They come in two sizes, this is the larger of the two. It is
 really great.

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 mark,

 Glad you're enjoying your atlantis. Nice to get feedback as I'm about
 to adventure with my old new to me Atlantis.

 https://flic.kr/p/nHnVzg

 What rear rack are you running with the Camper long flap?  It looks
 like my bag man rack but larger.

 The S240 looks awesome.

 ~Hugh

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[RBW] Travel to SFO / RBW: Food Tips?

2014-06-18 Thread Frank

Taking the boys to San Francisco (staying in Union Square) for 5 days. Will 
BART to RBW / RBBH most certainly, but am looking for local coffee and food 
recommendations in SFO and Berkley as well. We love Portland, live in 
Seattle, and the kids are adventurous and open to everything. Any tips 
would be greatly appreciated; I've come to trust the taste profiles on this 
list a lot more than those on Yelp, et. al. 

Thanks in advance!

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[RBW] Re: All you need is a change in perspective

2014-06-18 Thread Kieran J

I'll be in SF in mid-August, with a bike in tow. I must get me some of this 
action! Looks like a blast..

KJ
Toronto, Canada


On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 1:09:02 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 There are those days where at the beginning of the ride you start second 
 guessing yourself. You don't think your fit enough for the ride or you 
 don't think you brought enough clothes. Or you aren't looking forward to 
 doing the same ride you've done a ton of times before. 
 Lets say I was a combination of these three and on top of this I was 
 filled with guilt for not spending fathers day with my father. 

 I was close to canceling the ride. Good thing I didn't because there was a 
 big group waiting for me at Ritual coffee. 13 people showed up. A few new 
 ones, Brad, Brooks and Theresa, a couple regulars, Kurt, Emily, Tommy, Puck 
 Brendan, a couple of not so regulars, special guest Boyz of the Hoods 
 member, Irving; and two who was leaving on a tour down to Mexico Ely and 
 Omar. 

 Even though I planned the ride I had better folks leading most of it. 
 Irving gracefully lead us to the top of sweeny ridge, Kurt took us to a new 
 section that included sand, pump tracks and fences and Brendan showed the 
 alternative route to taking HW1 to get to Devil's slide. 

 I find it amazing to get new perspectives on rides I've done in the past. 
 Even with all the crashing we still got home in one piece AND with enough 
 time for father's day dinner. Glad I can count on my friends to keep me 
 motivated to not only ride but to have fun while doing it.

 Pictures proved that all you need on the ride are a couple of friends and 
 fences to bypass:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHsjYjEhTV

 Manny I guess I'll have fun now Acosta


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Re: [RBW] Re: Crown Zellerbach Trail; Lots of Gravel and Some Industrial Spelunking

That's excellent.  I miss Oregon.  Been away too long.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com
wrote:

 abandoned train lines :-)


 On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 9:26:19 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Fantastic route, and a detour to an abandoned railroad tunnel...

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157644960262751/

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Re: [RBW] Re: 8-speed Bleriot build question. MTB or Road derailers?

The new derailer you referenced is from SunXCD. The actual name of the 
component is an indecipherable mass of letters and numbers, so I guess we 
just call it The SunXCD Rear Derailer. http://sunxcd.net/rearder/

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:28:54 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:

 The 10 speed Shimano MTB Dyna-Sys parts aren't only group-specific, they 
 are incompatible with road indexed shifters.  The cable pull is different.  
 Folks on here and elsewhere say to use a 9 speed MTB derailer if you want a 
 10 speed indexed setup.

 I'm using a long cage silver Chorus 10 speed (early '00s) on my Rivendell 
 with an 11-30 9 speed Shimano cassette and Shimano bar end shifters and 
 it's working fine with 46-36-26 chainrings in the front.  The Chorus was 
 rated to handle 29, so jumping to 30 doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

 I've thought about going 11-34 or even 12-36 on the back to try to get me 
 up one particular hill on our local brevets that I have walked every time 
 this year.  But I feel this would require a MTB derailer, so I haven't done 
 it yet.  The new derailer I really like the looks of is the new Suntour 
 XCE.  It's basically a polished silver Microshift and it is pretty.  But it 
 comes at a premium, I've seen it online for around $100 whereas the Deore 
 can be had for less than $50.  I really want it though so maybe I'll sell 
 some more stuff I'm not using and get it.


 On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:17 AM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 I'm a bit of a derailer snob, so I understand your qualms about the basic 
 Deore rear mech. My Heron runs a nice, light, silver mid-90's Deore XT, and 
 another bike uses a lovely and rare US-made Precision Billet derailer from 
 the same era. If you want a nice Shimano MTB rear derailer, you can't go 
 wrong with XTR bits. The newest Dyna-Sys 10-speed parts might be a little 
 too group-specific (and pricey), but anything before that will work fine 
 with friction. Finding one on Ebay that hasn't been scratched-to-heck could 
 be tough, though. For new, those MicroSHIFT mechs Riv sells are nice 
 looking.

 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.


 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:56:49 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 MTB derailers or Road derailers.

 What's the diff, if anything?

 I know RBW seems to like MTB derailers for all their current build 
 kits (Deore).

 Any benefits to Road 8-speed derailers over MTB?

 I am under the assumption that any 8-speed Road parts are going to have 
 to be NOS or used, because looks like 8-speed derailers don't exist anymore 
 in current production offerings as of 2014?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Crown Zellerbach Trail; Lots of Gravel and Some Industrial Spelunking

Train tunnels are a who-t! Grin. Looks like a grand time and I 
love the finding of fossils.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: TA Cranks - 160mm

2014-06-18 Thread Andrew Drummond

Don't worry about the french threads on the ebay cranks - they're close 
enough you can just run a tap through and put your english threaded pedals 
on. M14x1.25 is 0.011 smaller in diameter than 9/16-20, and the pitch 
difference (1.25 vs 1.27mm) is hardly worth thinking about. Will you have 
perfect english threads? No, but really, they'll be close enough. Don't 
forget the anti-seize, though!

Andrew

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[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe green plaid fender flap

The most ridiculously expensive fender flap ever. I think it was about 25 
bucks, and I think I threw it in a $300 cart in order to qualify for a 
frame giveaway. Alas, I don't actually use fenders much, so it sits unused. 
Green plaid with a nifty Smythe leather patch in the center, no longer 
available from Riv. $15 shipped, text here 415-786-4623 for a pic.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Ryan

If you do that, Grant, you'll definitely have a customer ..but I  don't 
want to start a round of speculation on this. Just an admirer of products 
you design..Ryan in Winnipeg
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 12:41:49 PM UTC-5, grant wrote: 

 Hi Michael,
 The first time it came off did the damage that allowed the second time it 
 came off to happen more easily. The steel spindle rounded out the squarish 
 aluminum hole in the crank. There are other nice cranks out there, but the 
 Sugino XD is the most consistent, reliable crank I've ever run into. Even 
 so, we'll intro a new crank in a year or two. Not worth waiting for, but 
 it's a fact. 

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:30:05 AM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote: 

 I have a 10 year old Sugino crank, on which the left arm has now come 
 loose twice.  The first time I attributed it to my error in not tightening 
 it down after reinstalling.  I have never been ham fisted and now with some 
 arthritis often overestimate how tight bolts are.  The second time seems 
 more problematic.  I'm giving it one more try after getting out my 3/8 
 ratchet arm and leaning on it; but I am not optimistic. 

 I've never been as enamored of this crank as GP and so have started 
 looking for a replacement.  The VO looks like a good value at $195.  Cold 
 forged, pinned rings.  Does anyone here have experience with this crank?

 Michael



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Re: [RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

2014-06-18 Thread Ryan

I think the silver's really nice too. But I thought you started with blue 
bar wrap...which I thought looked really good with the blue 
decals...Grey's  lookd good  too. And your photographs are stunning as 
well. That is beautiful rugged country you live in, and you capture it 
faithfully. Ryan in Winnipeg
On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:53:08 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Thanks, Dave. Like you, I am partial to the silver. Maybe it comes from 
 getting up at 6am (well, 4am and waking my dad asking if it was 6 yet, 
 until I could tell time) to watch the Lone Ranger. Hi Ho! Silver! Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:45:21 AM UTC-6, Dave Nawrocki wrote: 

  Deacon,

 The Silver QB is my favorite color for that bike. Very nice.
 This is a great early summer for lush green and wildflowers on the front 
 range.

 Dave Nawrocki
 Ft. Collins, CO

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 *Subject: *[RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

 Thanks, Hugh. No worries. I didn't miss it, at its persistence. Been 
 chugging bone broth by the gallon. Grin. Seems to be knitting together 
 nicely after just 4 weeks. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:16:53 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 

 Deacon, 

 I love the photography most excellent! I didn't know you hurt your rib? 
 How did I miss that? Glad you're alright though.

 The quick beam looks fantastic.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh





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[RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Aaron Young

I too dislike the hidden bolt on try XD 600. It seems like Sugino they made
an aesthetic choice at the expense of creation of a technical problem  Is
there some other reason to have the crank arm leave the starfish at that
orientation other than aesthetics?  Also, have trouble getting the q factor
narrow enough with the XD 600.  Finally, I am sure this complaint is much
less wide spread, but since I'm already on a roll you can't use bio-pace
rings on the XD 600, or if it is possible it was too tricky (and
inconvenient because of the hidden bolt) for me to figure out.

Not sure if Grant meant a Riv designed crank, but that would be very
interesting.

-Aaron I'm done complaining now Young
The Dalles, OR

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 I agree the XD 600 is a very reliable crank.  But I live in a town with
 and ride a lot of dirt roads, and wet conditions (but much less since I
 retired and stopped commuting), so I have to take the crank apart a couple
 of times a year to throughly clean the middle and inner ring.  At those
 times I end up cussing the hidden bolt and loose spacers.




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Re: [RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter

Very, very nice!

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still pretty lame at posting pics, but here's an attempt. I picked up
 this Rive-designed, Waterford-built early Heron Road from Ted Durant here a
 while back. He's mentioned that Reynolds 531 is magic in a frame tube, and
 I believe it..this baby floats down the road and soars up hills like a
 balloon!

 Designed for 700c, converted to 650b. The BB is probably too low, but I'm
 pretty good about keeping the inside pedal up through corners, so not a
 problem.

 Mid-90's 8-speed XT rear derailer, late-80's Dura-Ace front.
 Ritchey 50-34 cranks with some kinda Octalink BB.
 Phil hubs, IRD 7-speed freewheel, Velocity Synergy 36-hole rims, SOMA New
 Xpress 38mm tires.
 Vintage Simplex post, Brooks B68(?) saddle.
 Albatross CrMo bars, Riv Miesha cork grips, Silver shifters, Suntour XC
 Expert (Dia-Compe) levers, V-O quill converter topped with some cheap
 generic threadless 12cm stem..might be a Dimension. I figured I would
 eventually get a Nitto in there, but I'm already used to this look now, so
 maybe not.
 Silver long-reach brakes.
 Riv Hoop saddlebag support.
 Carradice bag..I think it's a Barley, could be a Pendle.
 Sackville XS small seatbag used as a front.
 I'm amused that I mixed two brands of bags and put one on the wrong end,
 and I still ended up looking like a bagmatcher :)

 This bike is the toppermost of the poppermost..thanks for looking.

 Joe soon to be seen with David Banzer's SOMA Porteur rack Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.


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Re: [RBW] My 71 cm AHH

2014-06-18 Thread Joe K.

David-

Just checked out your website, those bikes look like a ton of fun!  I live 
in SoCal but next time I'm in the Bay Area I'd love to go for a test ride, 
I'll bet those wheels can roll over anything!  I will say though that I 
have never owned a more sure footed, stable bike in my life, the 71 AHH 
handles great, climbs well and descends like a dream (even at 45 mph), 
definitely would be interested in comparing though, keep up the good work!

On Wednesday, June 11, 2014 2:11:36 PM UTC-7, davidfrench wrote:

 Hi Jim sorry if I wasn't clear. I'm extremely interested in feedback from 
 you and other tall riders, I'm just not sure a wheel size available for 
 more than 10 years and now having new lighter tires available (thus online) 
 make it esoteric. You can use 29 tubes in a 36 wheel by the way. Of 
 course if you blow a tire in the wild, there's zero chance another rider 
 will hand you a 36er tire, but I always take one spare in my bag on long 
 touring rides. 
 To really understand why a 700c or 29er bike even custom made (I had 
 several made) is by definition unstable you will have to be able, like I 
 did for years, to compare both bikes on the same path. Believe me, after 
 riding my DirtySixer you will understand that you are just making it work 
 on other 700c bikes as they are adaptations from regular bikes to our 
 longer body dimension. They are not thought from the beginning for taller 
 people than the belly curve of riders. 
 Wheel size, geometry (wheel base etc.) and oversized tubing (even the 
 handlebar diameter, at the grip) makes the DirtySixer a unique, safe and 
 fun ride. Not only on trails (it's not a 100% mountain bike but rather 
 50/50 road/dirt) but over potholes, curbs, train tracks, sand or wet leaves 
 thanks to bigger contact patch. 
 Ps: stability problems on 700c bikes comes from wheel size, rims and tires 
 width, head tube angle+ trail, rider position relative to the bike (or mass 
 distribution) wheelbase, chain stays length, axle size...
 I hope to be able to go ride the DirtySixer with you some day in our 
 fantastic playground that is the Marin headlands. 
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[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread Michael



 Pretty!

Congrats!

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[RBW] Reynolds 531 hubub?

2014-06-18 Thread Michael

So why is 531 so great?
Seems like alotta people really like these frames.
Special blend? Or the tube wall thickness?

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[RBW] Re: My Heron build

Huh. I managed to pose the bike with both wheel reflectors top-dead-center. 
This was not planned!

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:19:09 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Pretty!

 Congrats!


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Re: [RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread James Warren


Wow. It's hard to beat a Heron Road converted to 650B.


On Jun 18, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm still pretty lame at posting pics, but here's an attempt. I picked up 
 this Rive-designed, Waterford-built early Heron Road from Ted Durant here a 
 while back. He's mentioned that Reynolds 531 is magic in a frame tube, and I 
 believe it..this baby floats down the road and soars up hills like a balloon!
 
 Designed for 700c, converted to 650b. The BB is probably too low, but I'm 
 pretty good about keeping the inside pedal up through corners, so not a 
 problem.
 
 Mid-90's 8-speed XT rear derailer, late-80's Dura-Ace front.
 Ritchey 50-34 cranks with some kinda Octalink BB.
 Phil hubs, IRD 7-speed freewheel, Velocity Synergy 36-hole rims, SOMA New 
 Xpress 38mm tires.
 Vintage Simplex post, Brooks B68(?) saddle.
 Albatross CrMo bars, Riv Miesha cork grips, Silver shifters, Suntour XC 
 Expert (Dia-Compe) levers, V-O quill converter topped with some cheap generic 
 threadless 12cm stem..might be a Dimension. I figured I would eventually get 
 a Nitto in there, but I'm already used to this look now, so maybe not.
 Silver long-reach brakes.
 Riv Hoop saddlebag support.
 Carradice bag..I think it's a Barley, could be a Pendle.
 Sackville XS small seatbag used as a front.
 I'm amused that I mixed two brands of bags and put one on the wrong end, and 
 I still ended up looking like a bagmatcher :)
 
 This bike is the toppermost of the poppermost..thanks for looking.
 
 Joe soon to be seen with David Banzer's SOMA Porteur rack Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

Thanks Ryan. Yes, the blue Neubams is what I have on the bars, with clear 
shellac. The photos never seem to do the experience justice, but I am 
delighted you enjoy them.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 3:43:17 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:

 I think the silver's really nice too. But I thought you started with blue 
 bar wrap...which I thought looked really good with the blue 
 decals...Grey's  lookd good  too. And your photographs are stunning as 
 well. That is beautiful rugged country you live in, and you capture it 
 faithfully. Ryan in Winnipeg
 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 6:53:08 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: 

 Thanks, Dave. Like you, I am partial to the silver. Maybe it comes from 
 getting up at 6am (well, 4am and waking my dad asking if it was 6 yet, 
 until I could tell time) to watch the Lone Ranger. Hi Ho! Silver! Grin. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick 

 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:45:21 AM UTC-6, Dave Nawrocki wrote: 

  Deacon,

 The Silver QB is my favorite color for that bike. Very nice.
 This is a great early summer for lush green and wildflowers on the front 
 range.

 Dave Nawrocki
 Ft. Collins, CO

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 *Sent: *Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:34:06 PM
 *Subject: *[RBW] Re: Wildflower Ramble!

 Thanks, Hugh. No worries. I didn't miss it, at its persistence. Been 
 chugging bone broth by the gallon. Grin. Seems to be knitting together 
 nicely after just 4 weeks. 

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 7:16:53 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 

 Deacon, 

 I love the photography most excellent! I didn't know you hurt your rib? 
 How did I miss that? Glad you're alright though.

 The quick beam looks fantastic.

 Cheers,

 ~Hugh





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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanna Join? Meandoneering in Colorado

2014-06-18 Thread Aaron Young

I would love to get in on this as well.


On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 12:12 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Not sure when it's gonna happen, but next time I'm visiting the fam in CO,
 you're on my list.


 On Friday, June 6, 2014 5:11:39 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I should add that single track bikepacking is also always an option, if
 that is your preference.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS honjo, nitto, etc

2014-06-18 Thread Rob H.

Jason

I'd be interested in the honjo fenders

Robert

On Tuesday, June 17, 2014 1:38:37 PM UTC-7, Jason Leach wrote:

 I have  a few things to move out. 
 All prices do not include shipping 

 Honjo hammered 700x43 (good for 28-32 tires) plus hardware - $60 

 Nitto m12 rack (front rack for canti brake bikes - $50 

 VO randonneur rack (front rack for sidepull brakes, mounts to fork legs) 
 -$40 

 Riv fatty rumpkin tires.  -$40 

 Trades welcome: B17 special, nitto mini front rack, Albatross bars... 

 Contact offlist please 
 Thanks 
 Jason 
 SF,CA 



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[RBW] Re: My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread Kieran J

I almost bought this frameset for the GF, probably should have.
Glad to see my old WCS cranks in good use. Lookin' sharp! :-)

KJ


On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:46:27 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm still pretty lame at posting pics, but here's an attempt. I picked up 
 this Rive-designed, Waterford-built early Heron Road from Ted Durant here a 
 while back. He's mentioned that Reynolds 531 is magic in a frame tube, and 
 I believe it..this baby floats down the road and soars up hills like a 
 balloon!

 Designed for 700c, converted to 650b. The BB is probably too low, but I'm 
 pretty good about keeping the inside pedal up through corners, so not a 
 problem.

 Mid-90's 8-speed XT rear derailer, late-80's Dura-Ace front.
 Ritchey 50-34 cranks with some kinda Octalink BB.
 Phil hubs, IRD 7-speed freewheel, Velocity Synergy 36-hole rims, SOMA New 
 Xpress 38mm tires.
 Vintage Simplex post, Brooks B68(?) saddle.
 Albatross CrMo bars, Riv Miesha cork grips, Silver shifters, Suntour XC 
 Expert (Dia-Compe) levers, V-O quill converter topped with some cheap 
 generic threadless 12cm stem..might be a Dimension. I figured I would 
 eventually get a Nitto in there, but I'm already used to this look now, so 
 maybe not.
 Silver long-reach brakes.
 Riv Hoop saddlebag support.
 Carradice bag..I think it's a Barley, could be a Pendle.
 Sackville XS small seatbag used as a front.
 I'm amused that I mixed two brands of bags and put one on the wrong end, 
 and I still ended up looking like a bagmatcher :)

 This bike is the toppermost of the poppermost..thanks for looking.

 Joe soon to be seen with David Banzer's SOMA Porteur rack Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.




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[RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Michael

That would be cool if RBW made their own RBW outer chain ring with built in 
logo  like on the olde Raleighs. I think they used to have the Raleigh logo in 
three places on their outter ring.
RBW could have big R...B...W.

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Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Eric Norris

Ye Olde Raleigh crankset:

image1.JPG

–Eric N
Sent from my iPhone 5S

 On Jun 18, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 That would be cool if RBW made their own RBW outer chain ring with built in 
 logo  like on the olde Raleighs. I think they used to have the Raleigh logo 
 in three places on their outter ring.
 RBW could have big R...B...W.
 
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[RBW] Re: My Heron build

Ah, thanks for the reminder of where those cranks came from..they sat on a 
shelf for quite a while before getting some use. There's quite a bit of RBW 
Bunch- and iBOB-sourced bits on there.

JB

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:39:32 PM UTC-7, Kieran J wrote:

 I almost bought this frameset for the GF, probably should have.
 Glad to see my old WCS cranks in good use. Lookin' sharp! :-)

 KJ


 On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 5:46:27 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I'm still pretty lame at posting pics, but here's an attempt. I picked up 
 this Rive-designed, Waterford-built early Heron Road from Ted Durant here a 
 while back. He's mentioned that Reynolds 531 is magic in a frame tube, and 
 I believe it..this baby floats down the road and soars up hills like a 
 balloon!

 Designed for 700c, converted to 650b. The BB is probably too low, but I'm 
 pretty good about keeping the inside pedal up through corners, so not a 
 problem.

 Mid-90's 8-speed XT rear derailer, late-80's Dura-Ace front.
 Ritchey 50-34 cranks with some kinda Octalink BB.
 Phil hubs, IRD 7-speed freewheel, Velocity Synergy 36-hole rims, SOMA New 
 Xpress 38mm tires.
 Vintage Simplex post, Brooks B68(?) saddle.
 Albatross CrMo bars, Riv Miesha cork grips, Silver shifters, Suntour XC 
 Expert (Dia-Compe) levers, V-O quill converter topped with some cheap 
 generic threadless 12cm stem..might be a Dimension. I figured I would 
 eventually get a Nitto in there, but I'm already used to this look now, so 
 maybe not.
 Silver long-reach brakes.
 Riv Hoop saddlebag support.
 Carradice bag..I think it's a Barley, could be a Pendle.
 Sackville XS small seatbag used as a front.
 I'm amused that I mixed two brands of bags and put one on the wrong end, 
 and I still ended up looking like a bagmatcher :)

 This bike is the toppermost of the poppermost..thanks for looking.

 Joe soon to be seen with David Banzer's SOMA Porteur rack Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.




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[RBW] Re: My Heron build

Lookin' good, Joe! Those Albatross look great on there.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Bill Lindsay

You'll have to settle for SILVER branded rings

http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/chr2.htm

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 4:54:10 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 That would be cool if RBW made their own RBW outer chain ring with built 
 in logo  like on the olde Raleighs. I think they used to have the Raleigh 
 logo in three places on their outter ring.
 RBW could have big R...B...W.

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-06-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB

Come on now, Philip... Hatred is not part of my being; only love.  I just love 
my triple more than your ENO, that's all :)

Peace,
Bobby 

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[RBW] Re: Cranky Crank VO Replacement

2014-06-18 Thread Scott G.

Sugino makes two more 110/74 triples, both without the hidden bolt.

Alpina 2
http://store.somafab.com/sual10scr.html

801T
http://www.alexscycle.com/cranks/road-1-2-3-4-5-6/sugino-tour-801t-triple-crankset.html

Never seen an 801T, seems it is the triple version of the Mighty Tour 2000 
series AL hi-zoot crank.

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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-06-18 Thread Garth


   Yes !  I love my left hand, and I love using it :)  I'd rather have a 5 
speed cogset and a double or triple than one of those all right hand 
systems. Better chainline, no dish wheels :)  
This all-rightness is right-eousness taken to the literal !  To me, it's a 
way of re-acting to make some peace out of those silly 9-11 speed cassettes 
;)Before they existed, I heard no clamoring for 10 or 11 speed clusters 
!  Now where do they go ?  12,13 14 , 20 ? 

Ahahahaahahaha !

  
  
  



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[RBW] Re: TA Cranks - 160mm

2014-06-18 Thread Lesli Larson

Hey guys!  Thanks for all the leads!  Too bad the back-in-production cranks 
are so costly these days.  Germany looks like a decent option.. as does the 
ebay auction.

Best,

Lesli Larson

On Monday, June 16, 2014 8:24:56 AM UTC-10, Lesli Larson wrote:

 Hey there. I'm starting to collect parts for a new rando bike project (a 
 very slo-mo, down the line project).  I've always used TA Cyclotourist 
 cranks on my bike.  Are there any recommended sources for these cranks? In 
 US or abroad?  I'm looking for a 160mm pair.   

 Best,

 Lesli Larson


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Re: [RBW] Re: One week without a front derailleur

2014-06-18 Thread Matthew J

Why not a one by 5?  That's what I have on my commuter / light tourer.

On Wednesday, June 18, 2014 8:03:00 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote:


Yes !  I love my left hand, and I love using it :)  I'd rather have a 5 
 speed cogset and a double or triple than one of those all right hand 
 systems. Better chainline, no dish wheels :)  
 This all-rightness is right-eousness taken to the literal !  To me, it's a 
 way of re-acting to make some peace out of those silly 9-11 speed cassettes 
 ;)Before they existed, I heard no clamoring for 10 or 11 speed clusters 
 !  Now where do they go ?  12,13 14 , 20 ? 

 Ahahahaahahaha !

  
  
  



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[RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread RonaTD

I am really pleased to see that frame getting the love it deserves!

Ted Durant

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[RBW] My Heron build

2014-06-18 Thread Pondero

Brilliant and beautiful.  I especially appreciate that build.  It is similar to 
my Hilsen 650b set-up that serves my needs quite well.  I hope you enjoy it!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: My Heron build