[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

[Joe Bernard]

In my opinion DT shifters are for people who *really* like the look and 
simplicity, then adapt to the shifting. I happen to be one of those 
look/simplicity appreciators, but my attempt to get used to it a couple 
years ago was a no-go. Friction shifting at the bar-ends is ridiculously 
easy, and the extra work needed to reach down for on-the-tubers just wasn't 
worth the trouble for me. 

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09:21 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If I love friction  bar end shifting, will I find friction DT shifting 
> just as easy and enjoyable? 
>
> Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult 
> and looks like there's a big potential for knees banging into forearms 
> while pedalling and reaching down to shift  at same time. 
>
> What's your experience been with DT shifting?

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[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

[Glen]

As a tall guy I never liked shifters on the down tube, way too far to 
reach. It took brifters to introduce me to bar ends, now i'm sold


On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:09:21 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If I love friction  bar end shifting, will I find friction DT shifting 
> just as easy and enjoyable? 
>
> Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult 
> and looks like there's a big potential for knees banging into forearms 
> while pedalling and reaching down to shift  at same time. 
>
> What's your experience been with DT shifting?

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[RBW] It isn't winter yet

[Glen]

Normally around February Jim will chime in make a notice that the tone 
isn't in keeping with the topic of this list.

Well it isn't even the Solstice and we have two threads that are beyond the 
norm for this group. 

The outright attack on the seller of the AHH is not in the spirit of this 
group and the self righteous "I don't own a television" thread has nothing 
to do with Rivendell bikes and those who ride them. 

Please stop. 

Go ride your bike or go skiing.

Thank you,

Glen

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[RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

[dougP]

Probably like many on this list, I grew up with DT shifting.  Once I tried 
bar ends, I liked them a lot better.  After years with bar ends, I tried 
DTs for a few months on my Atlantis.  Not a difficult switch but went back 
to bar ends.  On the issue of interference points, I would occasionally 
touch the front tire with DTs, and they are quite difficult off-road.  OTH, 
with bar ends I sometimes bump them at low speed when turning sharply.  
Overall I prefer having the shifters on the bar, close at hand.  Currently 
my Atlantis is set-up with upright bars and thumb shifters and I like this 
a lot.

dougP

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:09:21 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:
>
> If I love friction  bar end shifting, will I find friction DT shifting 
> just as easy and enjoyable? 
>
> Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult 
> and looks like there's a big potential for knees banging into forearms 
> while pedalling and reaching down to shift  at same time. 
>
> What's your experience been with DT shifting?

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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Joe Bunik]

Peanut Butter Bikes.

On 12/16/14, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> What is PB Bikes?
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:39:33 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>>
>> Maybe it's just winter grumpies, but this thread seems to be filled with
>> self-congratulatory self-righteousness, which, IMHO, is not particularly
>> Riv-ish.
>>
>> jim m
>> wc ca
>>
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[RBW] PSA: Are you missing a large yellow Albatrossed A. Homer Hilsen ?

[Aaron Young]

Welp, looks like I'm going to have to start "rockin" more stuff. Ah, forget
it. I'll be honest - deep down I'm just an Un-Rocker.

-Aaron "Un-Rockin' 4 Life" Young
The Dalles, OR

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, Bill Lindsay > wrote:

> Turns out this really is Emil, former Riv Employee, actually selling his
> personal bike, legitimately.  It's a good deal, snap it up if you want a
> 56cm 650B hilsen that happens to be running 700c wheels and short reach
> brakes.
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:20:03 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> A bunch of circumstantial evidence and my Spidey Sense tells me this
>> Large Albatrossed Custom Painted A Homer Hilsen is not being sold by the
>> original owner:
>>
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4802051500.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Joe Bernard]

What is PB Bikes?

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:39:33 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Maybe it's just winter grumpies, but this thread seems to be filled with 
> self-congratulatory self-righteousness, which, IMHO, is not particularly 
> Riv-ish.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Goshen Peter]

He, my kid is amazing, special and perfect, just kidding hahaha. She
has my smart attitude and is already bored with school, good times ahead!

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Jim M.  wrote:
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> Maybe it's just winter grumpies, but this thread seems to be filled with
> self-congratulatory self-righteousness, which, IMHO, is not particularly
> Riv-ish.
>
> jim m
> wc ca
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[RBW] Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

[lungimsam]

If I love friction  bar end shifting, will I find friction DT shifting just as 
easy and enjoyable?

Never done it before, and seems like the reach may make it more difficult and 
looks like there's a big potential for knees banging into forearms while 
pedalling and reaching down to shift  at same time.

What's your experience been with DT shifting?

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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Jim M.]

Maybe it's just winter grumpies, but this thread seems to be filled with 
self-congratulatory self-righteousness, which, IMHO, is not particularly 
Riv-ish.

jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: Ride Across America On An Orange Quckbeam

[Tom Virgil]

Eating his way across the country on a Quickbeam.  What a worthy pursuit. 
 I am impressed.

~Tom

On Monday, December 15, 2014 3:37:51 PM UTC-8, Amit Singh wrote:
>
> Friend Paul's Blog:
>
> "So I started riding my bike away from Michigan this October with the idea 
> that I would head back to Oregon and live near the coast for awhile, but 
> I'm not in a rush, so we'll see if I get into any adventures.  Currently 
> I'm farm hopping around Austin, Texas, building up my cash base and taking 
> a break from the road. I finally found a computer to upload pictures from 
> my phone so here goes nothing..."
>
> http://rydabike.blogspot.com/
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Sackville, Swift, Edelux, Ortlieb, Dyanamo Wheelset, etc

[Scot Brooks]

Upside down Edelux and Swift bag are paid for. Everything else up for 
grabs. 

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[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

[dougP]

Over-thinking is what leads to tinkering.  Tinkering often produces really 
cool, useful stuff.  At least, that's my rationale. :-)

dougP

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:14:53 PM UTC-8, Trenker wrote:
>
> Very nice work. 
>
> What you call "over-thinking" used to be called "thinking", I think. 

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[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

[Trenker]

Very nice work. 

What you call "over-thinking" used to be called "thinking", I think. 

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[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

[Anton Tutter]

Ha!  Bill, I understand exactly how you feel.  I've been working on a bike 
accessory for some time now and it's on the verge of materializing in 
prototype form, but the sad news is that as excited as I am, even if it 
proves itself, it's probably only going to appeal to an extremely small 
niche within an already small niche. But it's fun all the same.

Anton


On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:04:14 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Doug 
>
> You are totally right.  Part of me showing it off is to gauge interest. 
>  There's been zero, so that saves me from rushing off to make 1000 of them. 
>  I might make 10 of them, though.  
>
> Bill not-planning-a-new-career-yet Lindsay
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:36:43 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>>
>> "Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
>> it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
>> on."
>>
>> Bill, you realize you're appealing to a tiny niche of an already small 
>> niche?  But what the heck, you thought it out & it does seem worthwhile.  
>> Way back when, I just left enough cable slack so the FD would drop onto the 
>> small ring somewhere around that same lever position.  But that was in the 
>> long gone (for me) days of double cranksets.  
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:04:52 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm pretty excited.  I like downtube 
>>> shifters, and Silver downtube shifters are great.  I use Silvers and I use 
>>> the Suntour Sprints that Silvers copied.  They are *almost* perfect.  
>>> One thing I like a teeny bit better is that the very last Shimano downtube 
>>> shifters had a neat little feature.  The left side shifter would not lay 
>>> flat, parallel with the downtube.  It had a built-in internal stop that 
>>> made it stop a bit early.  That way, when you reach through to grab that 
>>> left shifter with your right hand, it was sitting up high and was easier to 
>>> grab.  I always thought that was pretty slick.  
>>>
>>> The piece that causes Silvers, and Suntour, and Campy, and Gipiemme 
>>> shifters to stop parallel to the downtube was the same little piece.  It's 
>>> a flat piece of aluminum with a square hole in it, and a bent tooth in just 
>>> the right place.  I went ahead and worked out a design for a different base 
>>> plate piece that has the tooth repositioned to give my Silver shifters that 
>>> Shimano feature of grab-ability.  I had my brother-in-law work up a solid 
>>> model and I ordered a prototype from a machine shop.  I test installed it 
>>> tonight, and it works just like I planned it.  
>>>
>>> Photos prove I can overthink almost anything:   Silver 2.0 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
>>> it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
>>> on.   
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Philip Williamson]

I've taken a whole other strategy with my kid. 

He's plugged in, online, engaged, and has been for a long time. I doubt 
it's a strategy that would work with every kid, but he's pretty inoculated 
against ads and consumerism. He does consumer research, and knows how to 
delay gratification. He loves his videogames, but he's also a voracious 
reader, excellent writer, and a good thinker. He debates politics with his 
Xbox friend in South Carolina, and stays his friend. He knows all kinds of 
random interesting things, and actively pursues more knowledge, like, "How 
To Become Pope, " which I've shared with my 
adult friends.  

Philip
www.biketinker.com


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>
> Patrick: agree wholeheartedly. Anton: good for you. 
>
> I don't have a TV -- find it hard to watch most movies without getting 
> bored or annoyed -- but daughter, alas, is very plugged in -- she lives 
> mostly with her mother. But her mother and I have, and I think effectively, 
> emphasized other values enough -- imposed them on Catie, come to that -- 
> that I think all is far from lost. And she has been a huge reader since the 
> age of 6 or 7 when she discovered it is more fun to read than to have 
> someone read to her.
>
> And I am glad I discovered Kindle: all sorts of wonderful free or 
> almost-free classics of literature, history, spirituality, what have you.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Anton Tutter  > wrote:
>>
>> Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second 
>> daughter was born. Will never go back. 
>>
>> And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more 
>> bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old 
>> fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
>>> plastic or electronic toys toys. 
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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> though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not 
> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and 
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> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money 
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> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Chris Chen]

Awesome.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:53 PM, stonehog  wrote:
>
> I've done this a couple times in a few different ways with the B&M
> Toplight Line Plus:
>
> 1. I've scrounged my reflector attachment parts, and mounted the light on
> the seat post this way: https://flic.kr/p/gJd3iB or
> https://flic.kr/p/gJcXSG with other pics here:  https://flic.kr/p/gKGwPy
> https://flic.kr/p/iRFEci  https://flic.kr/p/iRH1iB
> 2.  or mounted to the seat tube: https://flic.kr/p/jdQhEq
> 3. Use an "L" bracket and bend it carefully to attach at a braze-on mount
> like this: https://flic.kr/p/aBEtGy
> 4. and if you have a basket and some washers?  https://flic.kr/p/9h37zs
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> www.stonehog.com
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:44:33 AM UTC-8, DS wrote:
>
>> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender,
>> seatpost, or rack brazeons without using the rear rack?
>>
>> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the
>> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a
>> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so
>> thought I'd ask here.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Goshen Peter]

Well I own 5 flat screen TVs a PS4, Gameboy, ipad, kindle fire and all the
other stuff we yes did fine without as kids but come on, they are fun
distractions. The issue is when they become all you do or all the kids do.
Everything is about moderation.

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>
> Patrick: agree wholeheartedly. Anton: good for you.
>
> I don't have a TV -- find it hard to watch most movies without getting
> bored or annoyed -- but daughter, alas, is very plugged in -- she lives
> mostly with her mother. But her mother and I have, and I think effectively,
> emphasized other values enough -- imposed them on Catie, come to that --
> that I think all is far from lost. And she has been a huge reader since the
> age of 6 or 7 when she discovered it is more fun to read than to have
> someone read to her.
>
> And I am glad I discovered Kindle: all sorts of wonderful free or
> almost-free classics of literature, history, spirituality, what have you.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>>
>> Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second
>> daughter was born. Will never go back.
>>
>> And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more
>> bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old
>> fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy
>>> plastic or electronic toys toys.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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> though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[stonehog]

I've done this a couple times in a few different ways with the B&M Toplight 
Line Plus:

1. I've scrounged my reflector attachment parts, and mounted the light on 
the seat post this way: https://flic.kr/p/gJd3iB or 
https://flic.kr/p/gJcXSG with other pics here: 
 https://flic.kr/p/gKGwPy https://flic.kr/p/iRFEci  https://flic.kr/p/iRH1iB
2.  or mounted to the seat tube: https://flic.kr/p/jdQhEq
3. Use an "L" bracket and bend it carefully to attach at a braze-on mount 
like this: https://flic.kr/p/aBEtGy
4. and if you have a basket and some washers?  https://flic.kr/p/9h37zs

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA
www.stonehog.com

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:44:33 AM UTC-8, DS wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
> thought I'd ask here. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Issue with Phil cassette hub

[Hiawatha Cyclery]

I've found a lot of variability in freehub diameters among some of the 
various boutique hub brands, ranging from impossibly oversized to 
intolerably sloppy, even on the same model hub from one batch to the next. 
Phil had some issues with pawls and/or the drive ring chipping and 
breaking, which made for crunchy engagement and eventually full hub 
destruction, but that's not the issue you're describing here. At first they 
were fixing them for free (with the same lousy parts that failed 
originally), but after they did the freehub redesign, it wasn't free 
anymore.

Cheapest/quickest attempt at a solution is to try a different cassette.

Jim

On Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:59:03 PM UTC-6, David wrote:
>
> There doesn't appear to be any digging into the the body, no.  It's just a 
> really, unusually snug fit, like obnoxiously snug... like the maker didn't 
> machine it to spec.
>
> At any rate, thanks Bill and Tim. 
>
> On Saturday, December 13, 2014 9:27:58 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Is the issue that your steel cogs have dug into an aluminum hub body?  If 
>> so, I'd use that as a reminder to just get away from aluminum freehub 
>> bodies forever.  If your wheel is perfectly good, then I would live with 
>> it, maybe try to file away gouges to make things a little more workable, 
>> and stock up on these:
>>
>> XT Rear Hub 
>> 
>>
>> 32 hole XT rear hubs are right at that sweet spot.  Still plentiful and 
>> the disc crowd doesn't want them.  $30 for 32 hole rear is a good price.  
>> 36 hole rear hubs are much more scarce, so expect to pay $60 or so.  
>>
>> When your Phil wheel is due for a new rim, build around an XT, sell your 
>> Phil hub for parts and move on.  
>>
>> On Thursday, December 11, 2014 7:49:35 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>>>
>>> Evening, group.  Anyone here (1) run a Phil cassette hub on their Riv, 
>>> and (2) come to find the cassette does not release or install onto the hub 
>>> body without significant force/wrangling/finagling involved?  It's really 
>>> bizarre. I have a Phil cassette hub on my Hilsen and I have this issue. 
>>>  Called Phil today.  I'm told that I have an older generation cassette hub 
>>> that has 4 pawls instead of the new 5 pawl hub body.  So, Phil wants $266 
>>> from me (plus shipping both ways) to install the current gen cassette hub 
>>> and ratchet ring.  No warranty on Phil parts, apparently.  Riv installed 
>>> the cassette hub on my Hilsen in 2010, and I'd very much assume the guys 
>>> who built my Hilsen up would've noticed a fussy fit between the cassette 
>>> and the hub body.  But how did this happen?
>>>
>>> Does this scenario speak to anyone here?  If so, do you know of another 
>>> workaround, as an alternative to dealing with Phil. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>
>>> David
>>> Sacramento, CA
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Patrick Moore]

Patrick: agree wholeheartedly. Anton: good for you.

I don't have a TV -- find it hard to watch most movies without getting
bored or annoyed -- but daughter, alas, is very plugged in -- she lives
mostly with her mother. But her mother and I have, and I think effectively,
emphasized other values enough -- imposed them on Catie, come to that --
that I think all is far from lost. And she has been a huge reader since the
age of 6 or 7 when she discovered it is more fun to read than to have
someone read to her.

And I am glad I discovered Kindle: all sorts of wonderful free or
almost-free classics of literature, history, spirituality, what have you.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>
> Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second
> daughter was born. Will never go back.
>
> And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more
> bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old
> fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy
>> plastic or electronic toys toys.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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*
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*Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money,
I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
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[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

[Bill Lindsay]

Doug 

You are totally right.  Part of me showing it off is to gauge interest. 
 There's been zero, so that saves me from rushing off to make 1000 of them. 
 I might make 10 of them, though.  

Bill not-planning-a-new-career-yet Lindsay



On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:36:43 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> "Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
> it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
> on."
>
> Bill, you realize you're appealing to a tiny niche of an already small 
> niche?  But what the heck, you thought it out & it does seem worthwhile.  
> Way back when, I just left enough cable slack so the FD would drop onto the 
> small ring somewhere around that same lever position.  But that was in the 
> long gone (for me) days of double cranksets.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:04:52 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> OK, that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm pretty excited.  I like downtube 
>> shifters, and Silver downtube shifters are great.  I use Silvers and I use 
>> the Suntour Sprints that Silvers copied.  They are *almost* perfect.  
>> One thing I like a teeny bit better is that the very last Shimano downtube 
>> shifters had a neat little feature.  The left side shifter would not lay 
>> flat, parallel with the downtube.  It had a built-in internal stop that 
>> made it stop a bit early.  That way, when you reach through to grab that 
>> left shifter with your right hand, it was sitting up high and was easier to 
>> grab.  I always thought that was pretty slick.  
>>
>> The piece that causes Silvers, and Suntour, and Campy, and Gipiemme 
>> shifters to stop parallel to the downtube was the same little piece.  It's 
>> a flat piece of aluminum with a square hole in it, and a bent tooth in just 
>> the right place.  I went ahead and worked out a design for a different base 
>> plate piece that has the tooth repositioned to give my Silver shifters that 
>> Shimano feature of grab-ability.  I had my brother-in-law work up a solid 
>> model and I ordered a prototype from a machine shop.  I test installed it 
>> tonight, and it works just like I planned it.  
>>
>> Photos prove I can overthink almost anything:   Silver 2.0 
>> 
>>
>> Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
>> it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
>> on.   
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Lynne Fitz]

If you want a different rear tail light, I can totally recommend the Secula 
Plus.  Get it from Peter.  Choice of fender or seatstay mount models.

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Re: [RBW] Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Patrick Moore]

I see that I'm late as usual to the party and that Peter White has this
sort of thing. That's what I'm talking about.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> Do you mean the German spec (I think it's G spec) 2-bolt-mount rear light
> as designed for, say, the rear plates of Tubus racks? If so, sure: a flat
> metal strip drilled for the tail light bolts, but also drilled for other
> bolts as needed to fix the strip to a fender, a seatpost clamp (you'd have
> to bend the strip 90* to fit the most common seatpost light mounts), or
> rack braze on (ditto).
>
> When Chauncey Matthews was faced with the dilemma of designing my custom
> rear rack for both these 2-bolt and the more typical US 1-bolt rear lights,
> he drilled one hole at the center of the rack's rear tube and provided such
> a strip. I'm presently using it to mount a dyno powered, German, 2-bolt
> light to said rack.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM, DS  wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender,
>> seatpost, or rack brazeons without using the rear rack?
>>
>> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the
>> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a
>> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so
>> thought I'd ask here.
>>
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> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely
> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in
> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing
> so.”*
> *
>   -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*
>
> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money,
> I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
> the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
> though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
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I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not be

Re: [RBW] Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Patrick Moore]

Do you mean the German spec (I think it's G spec) 2-bolt-mount rear light
as designed for, say, the rear plates of Tubus racks? If so, sure: a flat
metal strip drilled for the tail light bolts, but also drilled for other
bolts as needed to fix the strip to a fender, a seatpost clamp (you'd have
to bend the strip 90* to fit the most common seatpost light mounts), or
rack braze on (ditto).

When Chauncey Matthews was faced with the dilemma of designing my custom
rear rack for both these 2-bolt and the more typical US 1-bolt rear lights,
he drilled one hole at the center of the rack's rear tube and provided such
a strip. I'm presently using it to mount a dyno powered, German, 2-bolt
light to said rack.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 10:44 AM, DS  wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost,
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack?
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so
> thought I'd ask here.
>
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needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely
having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in
electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing
so.”*
*
  -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*

*Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money,
I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
*
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you missing a large yellow Albatrossed A. Homer Hilsen ?

[Kieran J]

Somebody rescue this bike! It needs some lovin'

KJ


On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:40:16 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Glad that it's legit, but this is possibly the worst CL ad I have ever 
> seen.  Seller isn't rocking anything except a terrible camera and a 
> middling grasp of English.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>>
>> Turns out this really is Emil, former Riv Employee, actually selling his 
>> personal bike, legitimately.  It's a good deal, snap it up if you want a 
>> 56cm 650B hilsen that happens to be running 700c wheels and short reach 
>> brakes.  
>>
>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:20:03 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> A bunch of circumstantial evidence and my Spidey Sense tells me this 
>>> Large Albatrossed Custom Painted A Homer Hilsen is not being sold by the 
>>> original owner:
>>>
>>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4802051500.html
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: The new cycling revolution starts NOW! With one custom bike part! (Modified Silver Shifter)

[dougP]

"Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
on."

Bill, you realize you're appealing to a tiny niche of an already small 
niche?  But what the heck, you thought it out & it does seem worthwhile.  
Way back when, I just left enough cable slack so the FD would drop onto the 
small ring somewhere around that same lever position.  But that was in the 
long gone (for me) days of double cranksets.  

dougP

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> OK, that's a little hyperbolic, but I'm pretty excited.  I like downtube 
> shifters, and Silver downtube shifters are great.  I use Silvers and I use 
> the Suntour Sprints that Silvers copied.  They are *almost* perfect.  One 
> thing I like a teeny bit better is that the very last Shimano downtube 
> shifters had a neat little feature.  The left side shifter would not lay 
> flat, parallel with the downtube.  It had a built-in internal stop that 
> made it stop a bit early.  That way, when you reach through to grab that 
> left shifter with your right hand, it was sitting up high and was easier to 
> grab.  I always thought that was pretty slick.  
>
> The piece that causes Silvers, and Suntour, and Campy, and Gipiemme 
> shifters to stop parallel to the downtube was the same little piece.  It's 
> a flat piece of aluminum with a square hole in it, and a bent tooth in just 
> the right place.  I went ahead and worked out a design for a different base 
> plate piece that has the tooth repositioned to give my Silver shifters that 
> Shimano feature of grab-ability.  I had my brother-in-law work up a solid 
> model and I ordered a prototype from a machine shop.  I test installed it 
> tonight, and it works just like I planned it.  
>
> Photos prove I can overthink almost anything:   Silver 2.0 
> 
>
> Now I'm looking into more cost effective manufacturing methods to see if 
> it's feasible to make a run of these for other downtube zealots to geek out 
> on.   
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[David Stein]

That peter white seatpost binder mount sounds like the ticket, thanks!

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Matthew J  wrote:
>
> Peter White does.  About half way down the page:
>
> http://peterwhitecycles.com/taillights.asp#racks
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:44:33 AM UTC-6, DS wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender,
>> seatpost, or rack brazeons without using the rear rack?
>>
>> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the
>> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a
>> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so
>> thought I'd ask here.
>>
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[RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

And to help pull this even further off topic, today is 50% board games at 
Amazon: 
http://www.amazon.com/b/ref=br_lf_m_10238448011_pglink_prev?ie=UTF8&node=10238448011&plgroup=1&plpage=1

Board games tend to not go on sale often or by a large %, so this is a good 
opportunity to keep the kids away from the TV!!!


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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Matthew J]

Have they gotten more obnoxious since then, or have I just become 
sensitized to them from not having them?

There is a lot less money being spent of televised ads.  Production quality 
is way down.  

Big money is in the cinema spots that then morph over to Youtube - 
apparently there are people who actually search for and watch ads on 
Youtube.  Go figure.

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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Matthew J]

Peter White does.  About half way down the page:

http://peterwhitecycles.com/taillights.asp#racks

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:44:33 AM UTC-6, DS wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
> thought I'd ask here. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[hsmitham]

DS,

Here are a two images of my hack. Different rear light, however it will 
work with the Riv rear light your talking about. Also I mounted it at a 
lower point on the Seat Stays due to the saddle bag but I could have 
mounted it higher. I purchased flat aluminum bar stock for $6 at my local 
Hardware store and used a bench vise to bend into the "L" bracket you see 
in the pictures.







Have fun.

~Hugh
 Los Angeles, CA



On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:44:33 AM UTC-8, DS wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
> thought I'd ask here. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Are you missing a large yellow Albatrossed A. Homer Hilsen ?

[Jim Bronson]

Glad that it's legit, but this is possibly the worst CL ad I have ever
seen.  Seller isn't rocking anything except a terrible camera and a
middling grasp of English.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>
> Turns out this really is Emil, former Riv Employee, actually selling his
> personal bike, legitimately.  It's a good deal, snap it up if you want a
> 56cm 650B hilsen that happens to be running 700c wheels and short reach
> brakes.
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:20:03 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> A bunch of circumstantial evidence and my Spidey Sense tells me this
>> Large Albatrossed Custom Painted A Homer Hilsen is not being sold by the
>> original owner:
>>
>> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4802051500.html
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Jim Bronson]

As for kids I don't have any but have some over at the house sometimes and
I find the precocious behavior displayed in much of children's specific
programs is pretty intolerable.  There's no way I would accept any child
talking the way they do on some of these TV shows.

For me, I could not live without my DVR. I cannot stand commercials, and
yes I think they are more unbearable than ever.  If it wasn't for DVR I
would pull the plug again, and go cable free, streaming only.  But my wife
likes Oprah Winfrey Network, and I like the home improvement shows on
HGTV/DIY.  So we filter what we have to endure by never watching anything
live.  Maybe someday an Internet connection will be enough, but for now the
cable companies are something of a cartel, i.e., they have some of the
interesting content I want and can't get separately.  If I could buy the
content I want on cable networks a-la-carte I would do so in a heartbeat.

On a side note, one of the great things about the older style of bikes is
that you can customize them a-la-carte.  I was on a 600K brevet this last
weekend and someone who had a top of the line carbon fiber Felt with D/A
electronic shifting had his shifter quit working after he had a flat.  I
surmise that something got knocked loose when he turned the bike over to
change the flat.  At any rate he had to ride the rest of the first day and
all of the 2nd day - approximately 150 miles - with two gears, that being,
those in the front.  I was needling him about getting a setup with shifter
cables, since I had a spare shift cable in my bag, but then I realized that
his bike probably doesn't even have provisioning to have shifter cables,
since I'm sure they build it as a proprietary integrated system with the
electronic shifting.

The guy is an extremely strong rider despite being over 65, so he was able
to take only having his two front gears in stride, and was helped by the
2nd day being a much flatter route east of Austin.  But still it reminds me
of why I ride what I would consider a normal bike.

Electronic shifting is cool in theory, especially for IT guys like me, but
sometimes tried and true low tech methods are better.  He told me
afterwards that he hooked his laptop to the derailer to troubleshoot.  Um,
if you have to carry a laptop to troubleshoot, what's the point of having a
15 pound bike in the first place?

I might ride a bike with electronic shifting if I was doing one of those
ultra-racing type events with a car following me.  Then, if the damn thing
breaks, I'd just grab my Rivendell off the top of the follow car.

But anyway, I digress...

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Anton Tutter  wrote:
>
> Speaking of media, we also find that after living essentially ad-free
> since 2006 (as not only do we not have a TV, but we also only listen to
> college radio stations of which there is an abundance with great
> programming in our area), it's become unbearable listening to ads when
> spending holidays at the in-laws. Have they gotten more obnoxious since
> then, or have I just become sensitized to them from not having them?
>
> Anton
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:33:52 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>>
>> Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second
>> daughter was born. Will never go back.
>>
>> And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more
>> bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old
>> fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy
>>> plastic or electronic toys toys.
>>>
>>> With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Andrew Marchant-Shapiro]

If it were me, and I wasn't a saddlebag user, I'd probably fabricate a 
mount that bolted either to the upper rack braze-ons (if present) or to the 
seatpost binder bolt (this latter would be an L-shaped bracket).

If, on the other hand, you have fenders, I would install a Pixeo.  I do not 
think there is a taillight with more bang for the buck.

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 2:41:50 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
>
> All good questions! I don't have a picture at a moment, but it is a 
> Cheviot, no saddlebags (everything is on a front rack, no rear storage), 
> and it is the Dyno Rear Rack light from rivbike.com: 
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ltd-20.htm
>
> There are fenders (SKS/ESGE LongBoard Silver Fenders - P50) and rack 
> brazeons.
>
> Also open to different rear dyno light suggestions if there is something 
> that is more apt for a seatpost, fender, or rack brazeon hookup.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minh > 
> wrote:
>>
>> This depends on the which rear dyno light you have, as well as what the 
>> rear of your bike looks like e.g. what type of fenders, is a saddle bag in 
>> the way, is there a rack-brazon to re-purpose etc.  a picture of the light 
>> and rear of your bike would be a good start.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:44:33 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, 
>>> seatpost, or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>>>
>>> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
>>> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
>>> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
>>> thought I'd ask here. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Shawn Granton]

Do you have fenders on your bike? I've used fender mounted rear dynolights 
on my bike, so I don't have to worry about using a rear rack.
-Shawn

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:44:33 AM UTC-8, DS wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
> thought I'd ask here. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Deacon Patrick]

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:37:15 AM UTC-7, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> Have they gotten more obnoxious since then, or have I just become 
> sensitized to them from not having them?
>

Great question, Anton. When I see ads I grew up with and thought nothing of 
at the time, they seem obnoxious now. I suspect most of it is my 
sensitivity threshold has greatly increased. This is a common experience I 
have with all aspects of more minimal (simple) living. For example, I can't 
fathom how I slept in a soft cushioned bed or sad in cushioned chairs (or 
chairs of any type), as they instantly feel wrong since I've shifted to 
floor living.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[David Stein]

All good questions! I don't have a picture at a moment, but it is a
Cheviot, no saddlebags (everything is on a front rack, no rear storage),
and it is the Dyno Rear Rack light from rivbike.com:
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/ltd-20.htm

There are fenders (SKS/ESGE LongBoard Silver Fenders - P50) and rack
brazeons.

Also open to different rear dyno light suggestions if there is something
that is more apt for a seatpost, fender, or rack brazeon hookup.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Minh  wrote:
>
> This depends on the which rear dyno light you have, as well as what the
> rear of your bike looks like e.g. what type of fenders, is a saddle bag in
> the way, is there a rack-brazon to re-purpose etc.  a picture of the light
> and rear of your bike would be a good start.
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:44:33 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender,
>> seatpost, or rack brazeons without using the rear rack?
>>
>> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the
>> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a
>> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so
>> thought I'd ask here.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[Minh]

This depends on the which rear dyno light you have, as well as what the 
rear of your bike looks like e.g. what type of fenders, is a saddle bag in 
the way, is there a rack-brazon to re-purpose etc.  a picture of the light 
and rear of your bike would be a good start.


On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 12:44:33 PM UTC-5, DS wrote:
>
> Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
> or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 
>
> I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
> rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
> different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
> thought I'd ask here. 
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Are you missing a large yellow Albatrossed A. Homer Hilsen ?

[Bill Lindsay]

Turns out this really is Emil, former Riv Employee, actually selling his 
personal bike, legitimately.  It's a good deal, snap it up if you want a 
56cm 650B hilsen that happens to be running 700c wheels and short reach 
brakes.  

On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:20:03 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> A bunch of circumstantial evidence and my Spidey Sense tells me this Large 
> Albatrossed Custom Painted A Homer Hilsen is not being sold by the original 
> owner:
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4802051500.html
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Anton Tutter]

Speaking of media, we also find that after living essentially ad-free since 
2006 (as not only do we not have a TV, but we also only listen to college 
radio stations of which there is an abundance with great programming in our 
area), it's become unbearable listening to ads when spending holidays at 
the in-laws. Have they gotten more obnoxious since then, or have I just 
become sensitized to them from not having them?

Anton


On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:33:52 PM UTC-5, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second 
> daughter was born. Will never go back. 
>
> And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more 
> bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old 
> fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
>> plastic or electronic toys toys. 
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Anton Tutter]

Amen, Patrick.  We've been TV-free since 2006, right after my second 
daughter was born. Will never go back. 

And the kids don't have phones, video games, or iPads. But they have more 
bookshelves chock full of books than their parents do, and a big old 
fashioned chalk board salvaged from school trash to draw on.




On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:18:37 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
> plastic or electronic toys toys. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Deacon Patrick]

Precisely, Ron. And people can inadvertently promote childishness in their 
children by accepting it rather than challenging it. I'm not saying that is 
happening in any specific instance here -- but the commercialization of 
Christmas, and specifically the direct marketing to kids via kids shows 
that are nothing but marketing, makes it a very easy trap to fall into 
without realizing. Christmas is a time of generosity and a huge part of the 
joy of receiving is in knowing we've given as well so we understand what 
went into the gifts we receive. The same is true for our kids. The more 
they work and sacrifice to give to siblings, parents, and friends, the 
deeper their joy with whatever they receive, whether it's the "must have 
toy" or something else.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:11:41 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Deac, child and childish are not the same thing.  
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:18:37 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
>> plastic or electronic toys toys. 
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
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[RBW] Dyno Rack Light with no rear rack?

[DS]

Anyone have a hack to attach a Dyno rear rack light to a fender, seatpost, 
or rack brazeons without using the rear rack? 

I currently have it on a Pletscher rear rack but I don't really use the 
rack for anything else and would rather remove it from the bike and find a 
different way to mount that rear dyno light. I'm not very inventive so 
thought I'd ask here. 

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[RBW] Re: Your dream RBW wheel set build, please

[Corwin]

Two sets (one for the Quickbeam and one for the custom):

1) Quickbeam set:

Front - Schmidt SONdelux wide body laced to a 32 hole green Velocity A23 rim
Rear - Phil Wood double sided freewheel (green) laced to a 32 hole green 
Velocity A23 rim
You may have guessed my Quickbeam is green.

2) Custom set:
Front - Chris King Classic Cross hub laced to a 32 hole silver Velocity A23 
rim.
Rear - Chris King Classic Cross hub laced to an off-center 32 hole silver 
Velocity A23 rim.

Thanks,



Corwin

On Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:15:38 PM UTC-8, David wrote:
>
> Group, would you mind offering your most ideal road-ish riding wheel set 
> built by Riv (Rich)?  This could be what you currently ride or would like 
> to ride.  I'm in the process of putting ideas together for a set and I'd 
> value your opinions.  
>
> Parameters:  650b Hilsen.  8sp cassette.  Would prefer on the lighter, 
> fast-ish road-riding side.  Load will be under 200 lbs.  Dynohub a moderate 
> consideration.
>
> Thanks, group.
>
> David
> Sacramento, CA
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38

[Jim Bronson]

The limiting factor right now on the Redwood is the 200mm cranks.  I'm
scraping pretty often even with 700x32.  But I do have an extra 650B
wheelset sitting around now that I sold my Soma GR.

Which brings me to the other limiting factor - time.  I am working with a
contractor to put my house back together after a sewer line backup resulted
in flood remediation people tearing out flooring, baseboards, sheetrock and
insulation.  It's also Christmas time.  And, I'm trying to reach some
mileage/kilometer goals for the year, which demand time spent riding bikes,
not working on converting them to a different wheel size.  So I'll keep
riding the Redwood as is for now.

I really do want a purpose built 650B frame - eventually.  It probably
won't be a Rivendell, because I don't see a low trail 650B optimized frame
for very tall riders as something Grant has shown any signs of interest
towards.  He uses the 650B for the smaller frames but usually the big ones
are 700C spec.  Nor does he appear to be a fan of low trail.  For my money
I'd probably lean towards a Boulder custom lugged or if I wanted more
versatility, a Elephant NFE.  I suppose another custom Riv could be in the
offing but it's hard to justify the additional $1300 over a lugged Boulder,
they look really, really nice.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Kieran J  wrote:
>
> Hey Jim, I'm in the process of converting my new 68cm Rambouillet to 650b.
> It fits Hetres or Stampede Pass + fenders no problem. The Redwood should be
> the same I would think.
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:46:39 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups
>> and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August.  Can't imagine
>> using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the
>> LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit
>> between the seatstays on my custom.
>>
>> They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine
>> popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like
>> the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto.  I'm getting at least 2500
>> miles per tire.  The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles
>> and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that.
>>
>> I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last
>> weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire
>> since I could see the casing through the puncture.  But instead I just
>> booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek
>> out another 500 ;)
>>
>> My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to
>> replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass.  If I
>> convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups.
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks for this review.  I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or
>>> Pari-motos).  My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me.  I'm
>>> hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:

 Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I
 have tried on my Rivendell.  I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago
 to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv.  Which lasted at
 least 2500 miles.   Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very
 short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the
 engine.

 On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam  wrote:

> Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right?
>>
>
> I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am
> more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner
> than Hetres but cannot confirm.
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Ron Mc]

Deac, child and childish are not the same thing.  

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:18:37 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
> plastic or electronic toys toys. 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38

[Kieran J]

Hey Jim, I'm in the process of converting my new 68cm Rambouillet to 650b. 
It fits Hetres or Stampede Pass + fenders no problem. The Redwood should be 
the same I would think.

KJ
 

On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:46:39 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups 
> and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August.  Can't imagine 
> using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the 
> LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit 
> between the seatstays on my custom.  
>
> They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine 
> popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like 
> the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto.  I'm getting at least 2500 
> miles per tire.  The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles 
> and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that.  
>
> I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last 
> weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire 
> since I could see the casing through the puncture.  But instead I just 
> booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek 
> out another 500 ;)
>
> My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to 
> replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass.  If I 
> convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups.
>
> -Jim
>
> On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS > 
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for this review.  I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or 
>> Pari-motos).  My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me.  I'm 
>> hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride.
>>
>> On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I 
>>> have tried on my Rivendell.  I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago 
>>> to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv.  Which lasted at 
>>> least 2500 miles.   Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very 
>>> short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the 
>>> engine.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right?
>
  
 I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am 
 more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner 
 than Hetres but cannot confirm.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

[Patrick Moore]

168 rpm at the crank isn't fun at all, except to boast about; and even then
it's not all that boast-worthy: others reach much higher r's pm. But
112-120 isn't hard at all to maintain -- I used to maintain that -- well,
104 -- 112 actually -- in flatland cruising back in the days when I was
young and supple and could maintain 20+ mph in my favorite 64-65" gear.
That was before riding fixed made me into a masher.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:45 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>
> Maybe insane is not the right word?  How about un-fun?
>
> I don't know, it's hard for me to imagine the unabridged joy of a long
> descent in the mid-upper 30s with legs pulsating not unlike a sewing
> machine.  Just seems to me like it would take all the fun out of it.
>
> I've seen it before though, was doing Bike Tour of Colorado in 2006 and
> saw some fixie transcontinentals going downhill on US50 while I was slowly
> going uphill the other direction.  They were pedaling really, really,
> REALLY fast.
>
> Man we are way off topic here.  Haha.
>
> -Jim
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Deacon Patrick 
> wrote:
>>
>> 180 counting both feet (so half cranks,) is perfectly normal. At least in
>> the barefoot /minimalist running world, a cadence of 180 steps is normal.
>> On a bike, that's three strokes per second -- not hard to accomplish at
>> all. What seems insane to you about 168? I imagine on my QB I max out
>> around 220 or so and that's when I start coasting. But I've never used a
>> computer, just compared it with what I have counted, which is steps per
>> minute when running (I don't anymore, I was just curious where I was.
>> 180-200 steps when running).
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick (We do care about speed and cadence and gearing so don't feel
>> despondent Patrick) Jones. Grin.
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:21:32 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> 168 crank RPM???
>>>
>>> That sounds slightly insane to me, but to each his own.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:

 My gofast has a 15 t small and a 17 t big (both fixed) with a single 46
 t ring (and 24 1/2" actual diameter 650C wheels). My ultimate top speed (at
 least on 2 occasions) was 37.5 mph; my typical downhill top speed is 30
 mph; and my typical downhill cruising speed is 25 mph. ~168, 136, 112 crank
 rpm respectively. Flatland cruising: ~18-19 mph 80 to 85 rpm.

 Patrick "in the very unlikely event that you cared" Moore

 On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jim Bronson 
 wrote:
>
> I have a big ring of 44 and I use the 11 on almost every ride.  I'm
> pretty happy with 44/28 up front and 11-34 in the back, 9 speed indexed
> shifting with Microshift bar end, Deore M591-SGS derailer and HG50
> cassette.  This combination maxes out about 28-29 mph, which is fine for 
> my
> usage.  Smallest gear of 28-34 has not had me walking as of yet.
> (although, I don't count it out on the several 20% grades around here).
>
> -Jim
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

[Jim Bronson]

Maybe insane is not the right word?  How about un-fun?

I don't know, it's hard for me to imagine the unabridged joy of a long
descent in the mid-upper 30s with legs pulsating not unlike a sewing
machine.  Just seems to me like it would take all the fun out of it.

I've seen it before though, was doing Bike Tour of Colorado in 2006 and saw
some fixie transcontinentals going downhill on US50 while I was slowly
going uphill the other direction.  They were pedaling really, really,
REALLY fast.

Man we are way off topic here.  Haha.

-Jim

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:39 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
>
> 180 counting both feet (so half cranks,) is perfectly normal. At least in
> the barefoot /minimalist running world, a cadence of 180 steps is normal.
> On a bike, that's three strokes per second -- not hard to accomplish at
> all. What seems insane to you about 168? I imagine on my QB I max out
> around 220 or so and that's when I start coasting. But I've never used a
> computer, just compared it with what I have counted, which is steps per
> minute when running (I don't anymore, I was just curious where I was.
> 180-200 steps when running).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick (We do care about speed and cadence and gearing so don't feel
> despondent Patrick) Jones. Grin.
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:21:32 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> 168 crank RPM???
>>
>> That sounds slightly insane to me, but to each his own.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> My gofast has a 15 t small and a 17 t big (both fixed) with a single 46
>>> t ring (and 24 1/2" actual diameter 650C wheels). My ultimate top speed (at
>>> least on 2 occasions) was 37.5 mph; my typical downhill top speed is 30
>>> mph; and my typical downhill cruising speed is 25 mph. ~168, 136, 112 crank
>>> rpm respectively. Flatland cruising: ~18-19 mph 80 to 85 rpm.
>>>
>>> Patrick "in the very unlikely event that you cared" Moore
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

 I have a big ring of 44 and I use the 11 on almost every ride.  I'm
 pretty happy with 44/28 up front and 11-34 in the back, 9 speed indexed
 shifting with Microshift bar end, Deore M591-SGS derailer and HG50
 cassette.  This combination maxes out about 28-29 mph, which is fine for my
 usage.  Smallest gear of 28-34 has not had me walking as of yet.
 (although, I don't count it out on the several 20% grades around here).

 -Jim

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>>>
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>>> himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to
>>> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his
>>> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely
>>> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in
>>> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing
>>> so.”*
>>> *
>>> -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*
>>>
>>> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not
>>> money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I
>>> have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge;
>>> and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
>>> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
>>> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
>>> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
>>> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
>>> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
>>> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
>>> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
>>> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
>>> *
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

[Deacon Patrick]

180 counting both feet (so half cranks,) is perfectly normal. At least in 
the barefoot /minimalist running world, a cadence of 180 steps is normal. 
On a bike, that's three strokes per second -- not hard to accomplish at 
all. What seems insane to you about 168? I imagine on my QB I max out 
around 220 or so and that's when I start coasting. But I've never used a 
computer, just compared it with what I have counted, which is steps per 
minute when running (I don't anymore, I was just curious where I was. 
180-200 steps when running). 

With abandon,
Patrick (We do care about speed and cadence and gearing so don't feel 
despondent Patrick) Jones. Grin.

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:21:32 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> 168 crank RPM???
>
> That sounds slightly insane to me, but to each his own.
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>>
>> My gofast has a 15 t small and a 17 t big (both fixed) with a single 46 t 
>> ring (and 24 1/2" actual diameter 650C wheels). My ultimate top speed (at 
>> least on 2 occasions) was 37.5 mph; my typical downhill top speed is 30 
>> mph; and my typical downhill cruising speed is 25 mph. ~168, 136, 112 crank 
>> rpm respectively. Flatland cruising: ~18-19 mph 80 to 85 rpm.
>>
>> Patrick "in the very unlikely event that you cared" Moore
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jim Bronson > > wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a big ring of 44 and I use the 11 on almost every ride.  I'm 
>>> pretty happy with 44/28 up front and 11-34 in the back, 9 speed indexed 
>>> shifting with Microshift bar end, Deore M591-SGS derailer and HG50 
>>> cassette.  This combination maxes out about 28-29 mph, which is fine for my 
>>> usage.  Smallest gear of 28-34 has not had me walking as of yet.  
>>> (although, I don't count it out on the several 20% grades around here).
>>>
>>> -Jim
>>>
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>> himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to 
>> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his 
>> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely 
>> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in 
>> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing 
>> so.”*
>> *
>> -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*
>>
>> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not 
>> money, I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I 
>> have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; 
>> and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not 
>> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and 
>> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me 
>> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money 
>> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh 
>> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in 
>> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all 
>> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money, 
>> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
>> *
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Re: [RBW] Re: Phase Two of an Atlantis build

[Bill Lindsay]

Absolutely!  Plenty!

On Monday, December 15, 2014 11:17:04 PM UTC-8, lungimsam wrote:
>
> Bill, no interest in DT shifting for an even cleaner and lighter build 
> that would really make cockpit swapping easy?

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[RBW] Re: Ride Across America On An Orange Quckbeam

[tdusky]

This a very cool bike, he made his own racks, rebuilt the wheel with an 
internal 3 speed hub that he rides fixed with the shifter mounted on the 
seat-stay. I rode the Detroit Randonneurs 300k with him last year, great 
guy!
Tom Dusky
Huntington Woods. MI

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>
> Friend Paul's Blog:
>
> "So I started riding my bike away from Michigan this October with the idea 
> that I would head back to Oregon and live near the coast for awhile, but 
> I'm not in a rush, so we'll see if I get into any adventures.  Currently 
> I'm farm hopping around Austin, Texas, building up my cash base and taking 
> a break from the road. I finally found a computer to upload pictures from 
> my phone so here goes nothing..."
>
> http://rydabike.blogspot.com/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Friction shifting and pulleys again

[Jim Bronson]

168 crank RPM???

That sounds slightly insane to me, but to each his own.

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> My gofast has a 15 t small and a 17 t big (both fixed) with a single 46 t
> ring (and 24 1/2" actual diameter 650C wheels). My ultimate top speed (at
> least on 2 occasions) was 37.5 mph; my typical downhill top speed is 30
> mph; and my typical downhill cruising speed is 25 mph. ~168, 136, 112 crank
> rpm respectively. Flatland cruising: ~18-19 mph 80 to 85 rpm.
>
> Patrick "in the very unlikely event that you cared" Moore
>
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Jim Bronson 
> wrote:
>>
>> I have a big ring of 44 and I use the 11 on almost every ride.  I'm
>> pretty happy with 44/28 up front and 11-34 in the back, 9 speed indexed
>> shifting with Microshift bar end, Deore M591-SGS derailer and HG50
>> cassette.  This combination maxes out about 28-29 mph, which is fine for my
>> usage.  Smallest gear of 28-34 has not had me walking as of yet.
>> (although, I don't count it out on the several 20% grades around here).
>>
>> -Jim
>>
>> --
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> Other professional writing services.
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>
> *
> *[I]n exploring the physical universe man has made no attempt to explore
> himself. Much of what goes by the name of pleasure is simply an effort to
> destroy consciousness. If one started by asking, what is man? what are his
> needs? how can he best express himself? one would discover that merely
> having the power to avoid work and live one’s life from birth to death in
> electric light and to the tune of tinned music is not a reason for doing
> so.”*
> *
>   -- George Orwell, Pleasure Spots*
>
> *Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not money,
> I am become as a sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And though I have
> the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and
> though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not
> money, I am nothing. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and
> though I give my body to be burned, and have not money, it profiteth me
> nothing. Money suffereth long, and it is kind; money envieth not; money
> vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, doth not behave unseemly, seeketh
> not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; rejoiceth not in
> iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; beareth all things, hopeth all
> things, endureth all things. . . . And now abideth faith, hope, money,
> these three; but the greatest of these is money. *
> *
>  -- George Orwell, Keep The Apidistra Flying*
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Deacon Patrick]

Thank you, Peter! Now I'm even more thankful we have no TV and don't buy 
plastic or electronic toys toys. 

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Goshen Peter]

sold out I should say.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Goshen Peter 
wrote:
>
> its shopkins this year. I have an 8 year old girl and its all they want.
> Retail is 5 bucks for a 5 pack of these little rubber toys, last I saw the
> 5 packs were going for 25 bucks most places because they are sold
> everywhere. Law of supply and demand, although yeah crappy that some kids
> wont get what they want because parents cant afford 5x retail.
>
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>> I wonder how much beanie babies are going for now?  The sad part is some
>> children will not get their Christmas wish because grown-ups are absconding
>> and scalping the toys.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:11:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/buy-in-store-sell-online-at-a-fat-
>>> profit-its-happy-holidays-for-arbitragers/
>>>
>>> He's far from the only one.
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Re: [RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Goshen Peter]

its shopkins this year. I have an 8 year old girl and its all they want.
Retail is 5 bucks for a 5 pack of these little rubber toys, last I saw the
5 packs were going for 25 bucks most places because they are sold
everywhere. Law of supply and demand, although yeah crappy that some kids
wont get what they want because parents cant afford 5x retail.

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>
> I wonder how much beanie babies are going for now?  The sad part is some
> children will not get their Christmas wish because grown-ups are absconding
> and scalping the toys.
>
>
> On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:11:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> http://www.cnet.com/news/buy-in-store-sell-online-at-a-fat-
>> profit-its-happy-holidays-for-arbitragers/
>>
>> He's far from the only one.
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[RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Deacon Patrick]

Ahhh, but if their Christmas depends on getting a specific toy, then they 
are more likely to discover real Christmas in the toy's absence than it's 
presence. Though I'm not sure how I'll make it to the New Year should I not 
be given a Disney Frozen Castle & Ice Palace Playset. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: I saw this article and thought of the PB Bikes debate

[Ron Mc]

I wonder how much beanie babies are going for now?  The sad part is some 
children will not get their Christmas wish because grown-ups are absconding 
and scalping the toys.  

On Monday, December 15, 2014 2:11:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>
> http://www.cnet.com/news/buy-in-store-sell-online-at-a-fat-profit-its-happy-holidays-for-arbitragers/
>
> He's far from the only one.
>
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[RBW] Re: Serial Number Reg

[Ron Mc]

Of course we have a few stickies here already, but Jim might want to stick 
this link or even add it to his masthead intro.  

On Monday, December 15, 2014 10:47:40 PM UTC-6, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Found! 
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=323

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[RBW] Re: Ride Across America On An Orange Quckbeam

[David Spranger]

I love it. Thanks for posting!

David 
Charlotte, NC

On Monday, December 15, 2014 6:37:51 PM UTC-5, Amit Singh wrote:
>
> Friend Paul's Blog:
>
> "So I started riding my bike away from Michigan this October with the idea 
> that I would head back to Oregon and live near the coast for awhile, but 
> I'm not in a rush, so we'll see if I get into any adventures.  Currently 
> I'm farm hopping around Austin, Texas, building up my cash base and taking 
> a break from the road. I finally found a computer to upload pictures from 
> my phone so here goes nothing..."
>
> http://rydabike.blogspot.com/
>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Across America On An Orange Quckbeam

[ascpgh]

Awesome. His confidence to set out at that point on the calendar flavors 
all he recounts. 

I really appreciate his pursuit of interesting meals and places. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


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> Friend Paul's Blog:
>
> "So I started riding my bike away from Michigan this October with the idea 
> that I would head back to Oregon and live near the coast for awhile, but 
> I'm not in a rush, so we'll see if I get into any adventures.  Currently 
> I'm farm hopping around Austin, Texas, building up my cash base and taking 
> a break from the road. I finally found a computer to upload pictures from 
> my phone so here goes nothing..."
>
> http://rydabike.blogspot.com/
>
>

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[RBW] FS: 62 Toyo Hunqapillar a.k.a. cosmic clunker _ Local Pickup (for now)

[erik jensen]

I'm selling my Toyo Hunqapillar: from the first run of frames. Grey and
red. Top quality build with the most radical of tube sets.

Here's a not-super-recent-but-good-enough-to-whet-appetites-photo.


Some chips, maybe 8. Certainly nothing major, well maintained in every way.
Currently sporting a rather wild assembly of parts, as any bike should.
Lots of good stuff. We can talk about what you'd like and you can leave
with what you need: right now it's albatrossed with a motorcycle lever and
a paul porteur lever (you can take the second one with it, should you want
a uniform look--where's the fun in that?). 1x9 kevin mounted shimano lever
with the second shifter waiting for a front derailer on the downtube. 2.25
shreddable sams with nothing more than a few hundo miles. I got a box of
parts and am flexible. Frame only cool too.

This is a special advance sale, preference given to bay area locals who can
come see the bike, talk about what they want, and leave happy. Easiest for
all parties involved.

Selling as my atlantis is my toyo touring bike, my nobillete-made protovelo
is my touring bike, and well my rackless hunqapillar is my lightly used
trail shredder which is often sidelined by my other two touring bikes as
they have racks. Were I not shedding my load, I would get some racks and
keep it. But I'm trying to think that 2 bikes is enough and that if I'm not
using it regularly (the case for the past couple years really) it should go.

Will consider trades for bluewater sailing gear or a 40w'ish vintage tube
amplifier -- let me know if you might have something but I won't go into
details here.

Get a legendary bike.

Thanks,

Erik Jensen

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