[RBW] FS: 58cm SimpleOne F/F/H/BB $700

[David Podboy]

I’m posting my SimpleOne 58cm frame/fork/headset/BB again after someone 
backed out of purchasing. The bike is in great shape with some blemishes 
and scratches from use. The previous owner used touch up paint that is 
close but not an exact match to the original paint. There are no dents or 
rust. I’ve tried to show the marks in the photos.

$700 OBO includes professional boxing. Buyer pays actual shipping cost.

Pics: https://goo.gl/photos/gxPSVnVooDbTThhy8. I only had pictures of the 
complete build before I boxed the frame and the original sale fell through.

Ships from Vancouver, WA. If you are in the Portland or Seattle areas, I’m 
happy to meet for pickup.

Thank you!
David

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[kielsun]

I don't think my Sam would generally beat a carbon frame rb in a flat out 
race, but it's going to last for a really long time, and I love riding it. 
Lots of people have never seen anything like it, and I enjoy explaining the 
reasons why it's the right bike for me. If dude likes his bike and seems to 
be having a good ol' time on the ride, good for him. To each his own. I 
hope his bike makes him as happy as mine does me.

The real issue seems to be his smug attitude, and unfortunately, offering 
unsolicited advice in return won't solve much of anything. I love the idea 
of offering to swap for a while. I'm definitely giving this a shot if ever 
in the situation!

BK

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:37:21 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> First of all, I’ve never heard anything but complimentary comments about 
> any of my Rivs.
>
> Second, I think that responding to criticism of my bike by criticizing the 
> other guy’s bike is not an appropriate response. After all, do you really 
> care what this other guy thinks about your bike? 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Geir Bentzen  > wrote:
>
> I think the best response is this...
>  
> Hey (carbon-guy) would you like to swap for an hour? 
>
> Because we know (WE KNOW) that Rivs plus 30-40 mm tires beat everything 
> out there for speed and comfort. Those carbon frames with 24 mm tires suck.
>  
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I've owned many Brooks saddles snd never had any color bleed.  i don't tend  to 
get them wet though.  I will echo,the select saddles as an option.  The leather 
is noticeably thicker on them.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Ride report: Bethany Beach, DE

[Utah]

Love the orange LHT...   and of course the Romulus!  Lazarus may be a 
better name for your Romulus because it was raised from the dead.

Scott

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 1:23:39 PM UTC-6, WETH wrote:
>
> Steve, glad you got out for a ride.  The weather really was perfect this 
> weekend.  Today isn't bad either!
> Bob, yes the winds go with the territory of coastal rides.  They make up 
> for the lack of hills!
>
> On Sunday, April 17, 2016 at 6:10:11 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
>>
>> Erl, Thanks for the report and great photos.  So glad you guys had such 
>> beautiful weather there!  Sounds like a fun ride.  I did get out for a 
>> (Bleriot) ride, bit honestly, we spent much of the weekend in the Miata. 
>>  See you soon!
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Do you prefer Adidas Sambas? Or clipless pedals? Both?

[Brian Campbell]

Too bad they are not walk able as well!

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 8:30:49 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I never knew you could have both!  
>
> http://www.retrofitz.com/index.html
>
> They sell a kit to run SPD cleats on any shoe.  Yes, any shoe.  I think 
> that's kinda cool.  I might try that sometime.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: MUSA Shorts: Discontinued or on Hiatus?

[Brian Campbell]

Update from Spencer is that IF they order more, they won't be available 
until the coming fall. Anybody have a set lying around that need a new home?

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 2:29:39 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Email Spencer.  Spencer at rivbike dot com
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 7:07:50 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Are the MUSA shorts on hiatus or are they being discontinued? I was 
>> looking for a set in size medium on the RIV site and they have not been 
>> restocked for quite a while.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Better late than never.

[Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado]

Hugh,
Thanks for sharing.Looks like a great ride with good friends.
After 3 ft of snow last weekend it's nice to see a great ride report & 
pics to toss the winter blues..Warmer days coming!
Jon


>>
>>
>>
>> .



>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

Except nobody is talking about Cat6 racers - we're discussing weekend 
roadies outfitted to look like them

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 5:35:43 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> You've got your smug filter calibrated well, double D.  :-)
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:42:51 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>>
>> Surprised to see so many CAT 6 racers on here :p
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Do you prefer Adidas Sambas? Or clipless pedals? Both?

[Bill Lindsay]

I never knew you could have both!  

http://www.retrofitz.com/index.html

They sell a kit to run SPD cleats on any shoe.  Yes, any shoe.  I think 
that's kinda cool.  I might try that sometime.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Will Rosco see the light of day?

[Bill Lindsay]

That's good news.  Thanks!

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 3:50:56 PM UTC-7, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> I think maybe in an email update, Grant indicated it'll move forward. 
> He'll buy one so 7, then a couple to sell.
>
> Sky in new west
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Will Rosco see the light of day?

[Sky Coulter]

I think maybe in an email update, Grant indicated it'll move forward. He'll buy 
one so 7, then a couple to sell.

Sky in new west

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Bill Lindsay]

You've got your smug filter calibrated well, double D.  :-)

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:42:51 PM UTC-7, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Surprised to see so many CAT 6 racers on here :p
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Will Rosco see the light of day?

[Bill Lindsay]

I didn't sign up for the email list, because I did not have a sincere 
intent to buy another bike.  The rosco blug said they will order them if 
(IF!) they get deposits for 10 by April 20th, and it looks like they've got 
6 so far.  Does that mean Rosco will get delayed, or dropped?  I hope it 
happens.  Those bikes look really cool.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ryan Fleming]

funny my riv road does that too

Probably some people are pissed that you can pass them on a steel bike if 
they're on a carbon wunderkind  that they spent a lot of dough on.  I'd 
look at it that way, then you won't be so offended. I've never actually 
passed someone on a CF bike...Cervelo is  super popular here and actually , 
honestly, most people do comment on my bikes and they're not rude, they're 
intrigued. However, I am a 63 year-old woman who's no threat to anyone.  I 
do find the CF bikes interesting and intriguing too; I just have no desire 
to own one .Obviously YEMV.

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 9:24:53 PM UTC-5, BSWP wrote:
>
> My '98 LongLow seems to attract people looking for mustard... 
> specifically, Grey Poupon. I have no idea why.
>
> - Andrew, Berkeley
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[IanA]

I'd take that over the comments that I get.  My bikes are Riv-like in 
set-up. My daily ride is a single-speed and I live in a valley, so hills in 
every direction.  I'm 48, most of my hair is grey and I  live in 
oil-country (pick-up trucks and guts) and people just can't believe a man 
of my age could be riding a bicycle in normal clothes.  People surprisingly 
often ask straight-out "hold old ARE you?".  I'm going to have to move 
soon.  I'm fed-up with defending mankind's right to be healthy in their 
prime.  I wish people would stick to denigrating my ride and leave me out 
of it!

There are none so knowledgeable as those with narrow experience.  

Ian A/ Alberta Canada

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 7:42:39 PM UTC-6, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Daniel D.]

Surprised to see so many CAT 6 racers on here :p

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Andy Williams]

Ye.

Andy

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:25:03 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote:
>
> My New Year's resolution back in '03 was to stop caring about what 
> assholes think. It's the only resolution I've ever kept.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Mark's rack?

[Minh]

Ryan,

Do a search on the list, or flickr, i've seen some creative basket only 
light mounting--involves a DIY trip to the hardwarestore to fashion a 
crossbrace but looks very doable.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 4:03:33 PM UTC-4, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> Or anything that I can attach a medium basket to and my dynamo light. Will 
> use on the front of an ogre which has the rear rack mounts on the fork. 
> Seattle pick up possible.
>
> Or does anyone have a good idea if where to attach a light if I get a rack 
> free strut-only basket?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] WTB: Nitto Mark's rack?

[Ryan Ray]

Or anything that I can attach a medium basket to and my dynamo light. Will 
use on the front of an ogre which has the rear rack mounts on the fork. 
Seattle pick up possible.

Or does anyone have a good idea if where to attach a light if I get a rack 
free strut-only basket?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

yes, I'm always wondering why the roadies laugh when I pass them on my 
upright

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:28:08 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> Will, 
>
> I'm not really that fast/competitive either -- but in this case more so 
> than my carbon-ated inquisitor!   :) 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

Will, 

I'm not really that fast/competitive either -- but in this case more so 
than my carbon-ated inquisitor!   :) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 1:35:33 PM UTC-5, William deRosset wrote:
>
> Dear Julian, 
>
> A tone deaf rider for sure. A response like, "Well, the proof of the bike 
> is in the riding," and a pointed change of topic would be my strategy. Or a 
> change of position in the double paceline might be in order. A gentle roll 
> off the front sounds like your response. I am just not that 
> fast/competitive these days.
>
> I get a very few comments on the club runs like yours, but if they 
> continue with the distance events, then they will figure it out. I 
> ordinarily will point positive, and answer questions straight. Sometimes 
> the interlocutor is just expressing ignorance and curiosity.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
>
> William M deRosset
> Fort Collins CO
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Mike in WA]

True Freds are to be pitied, not scorned. Have a laugh with this lycra 
warrior rap (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4).

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:42:39 PM UTC-7, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Brian Campbell]

I have taken George Carlin's advice to heart in matters like the one 
described:

"Never argue with idiots. They will only drag you down to their level and 
then beat you with experience."  (or something akin to that!)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: V.O, Pletscher, Grandsfors Bruks, E-Werk, Pitlocks, Shimano, Park Tools

[Mike in WA]

Thanks for pointing that out, Tim. The Super Motos are 60mm X 29"/622mm. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:39:44 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Mike-
>
> Are the Super Moto tires 26"/559 or 29"/622 diameter?
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Mike in WA  > wrote:
>
>> Almost forgot, also for sale are three Schwalbe Super Moto tires. Two of 
>> these tires still have the rubber needles from the injectors on the center 
>> of the tread, so I would guess they have ≈95% of the tread left. One tire 
>> doesn't have these in the center of the tire, but does have them on the 
>> edges; I would guess ≈90% tread left on that. I ran these tires tubeless 
>> and they may have a little latex residue on them when shipped 
>> (insignificant amount of weight). They do work well tubeless (with Orange 
>> Seal) but it takes a few days to get a full seal, FWIW. 
>>
>> $65 shipped for all three tires. Pictures of them are in the album. 
>> 
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:02:48 PM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote:
>>>
>>> Cleaning out the parts bin and garage with a medley of decent stuff. All 
>>> items will be shipped at cost and payments to be made by PayPal to 
>>> webord...@gmail.com . Please message me off-list if you're 
>>> interested. Here's what I've got, with pictures here: 
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>- Velo Orange Sabot pedals. Only mounted, never ridden, like-new 
>>>condition. $65
>>>- Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand. Brand new, never mounted. $25
>>>- Zefal HPX 4 pump. Very good condition with one dent. $20
>>>- Pitlock system for front and rear (130/135mm) wheels and seatpost 
>>>w/ one key. $50
>>>- Shimano XT M771 derailer. Used 1 year, very good condition. $30
>>>- Shimano Dura-Ace Road Levers. Similar to the Tiagras Riv offers, 
>>>but Dura-Ace. Good condition. $25
>>>- Grandsfors Bruks Mini-Hatchet. Very lightly used a few times. 
>>>Blade, handle and sheath in very good condition. $70
>>>- B E-Werk USB charger + 1400mAH B "Puffer" cache battery. Never 
>>>used, sitting in original box all this time. 
>>>- ^^ Includes original box, manual and all connectors. $125 (a bit 
>>>less than what I paid buying from Europe). 
>>>- Park Tool bottom bracket tool for square taper (BB-22) and crank 
>>>puller (CCP-22). $15
>>>- Park Tool "4th Hand" cable stretcher tool. Very good condition. $20
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[sameness]

Phewww.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:36:52 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> this was measured c to c, at 58cm and it has a standover (with those 
> skinny tires) of 85cm.  i think its safe to assume that it is actually a 
> 61cm.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: V.O, Pletscher, Grandsfors Bruks, E-Werk, Pitlocks, Shimano, Park Tools

[Tim Gavin]

Mike-

Are the Super Moto tires 26"/559 or 29"/622 diameter?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Mike in WA  wrote:

> Almost forgot, also for sale are three Schwalbe Super Moto tires. Two of
> these tires still have the rubber needles from the injectors on the center
> of the tread, so I would guess they have ≈95% of the tread left. One tire
> doesn't have these in the center of the tire, but does have them on the
> edges; I would guess ≈90% tread left on that. I ran these tires tubeless
> and they may have a little latex residue on them when shipped
> (insignificant amount of weight). They do work well tubeless (with Orange
> Seal) but it takes a few days to get a full seal, FWIW.
>
> $65 shipped for all three tires. Pictures of them are in the album.
> 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:02:48 PM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote:
>>
>> Cleaning out the parts bin and garage with a medley of decent stuff. All
>> items will be shipped at cost and payments to be made by PayPal to
>> weborders1...@gmail.com. Please message me off-list if you're
>> interested. Here's what I've got, with pictures here:
>> 
>>
>>
>>- Velo Orange Sabot pedals. Only mounted, never ridden, like-new
>>condition. $65
>>- Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand. Brand new, never mounted. $25
>>- Zefal HPX 4 pump. Very good condition with one dent. $20
>>- Pitlock system for front and rear (130/135mm) wheels and seatpost
>>w/ one key. $50
>>- Shimano XT M771 derailer. Used 1 year, very good condition. $30
>>- Shimano Dura-Ace Road Levers. Similar to the Tiagras Riv offers,
>>but Dura-Ace. Good condition. $25
>>- Grandsfors Bruks Mini-Hatchet. Very lightly used a few times.
>>Blade, handle and sheath in very good condition. $70
>>- B E-Werk USB charger + 1400mAH B "Puffer" cache battery. Never
>>used, sitting in original box all this time.
>>- ^^ Includes original box, manual and all connectors. $125 (a bit
>>less than what I paid buying from Europe).
>>- Park Tool bottom bracket tool for square taper (BB-22) and crank
>>puller (CCP-22). $15
>>- Park Tool "4th Hand" cable stretcher tool. Very good condition. $20
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[drew]

update: talked to the owner. 
 this was measured c to c, at 58cm and it has a standover (with those 
skinny tires) of 85cm.  i think its safe to assume that it is actually a 
61cm. other pics look good. a few nicks here and there, but overall really 
clean. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[William deRosset]

Dear Julian, 

A tone deaf rider for sure. A response like, "Well, the proof of the bike is in 
the riding," and a pointed change of topic would be my strategy. Or a change of 
position in the double paceline might be in order. A gentle roll off the front 
sounds like your response. I am just not that fast/competitive these days.

I get a very few comments on the club runs like yours, but if they continue 
with the distance events, then they will figure it out. I ordinarily will point 
positive, and answer questions straight. Sometimes the interlocutor is just 
expressing ignorance and curiosity.

Cheers,

Will

William M deRosset
Fort Collins CO


-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: FS: V.O, Pletscher, Grandsfors Bruks, E-Werk, Pitlocks, Shimano, Park Tools

[Mike in WA]

Almost forgot, also for sale are three Schwalbe Super Moto tires. Two of 
these tires still have the rubber needles from the injectors on the center 
of the tread, so I would guess they have ≈95% of the tread left. One tire 
doesn't have these in the center of the tire, but does have them on the 
edges; I would guess ≈90% tread left on that. I ran these tires tubeless 
and they may have a little latex residue on them when shipped 
(insignificant amount of weight). They do work well tubeless (with Orange 
Seal) but it takes a few days to get a full seal, FWIW. 

$65 shipped for all three tires. Pictures of them are in the album. 


On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:02:48 PM UTC-7, Mike in WA wrote:
>
> Cleaning out the parts bin and garage with a medley of decent stuff. All 
> items will be shipped at cost and payments to be made by PayPal to 
> weborders1...@gmail.com. Please message me off-list if you're interested. 
> Here's what I've got, with pictures here: 
>
>
>- Velo Orange Sabot pedals. Only mounted, never ridden, like-new 
>condition. $65
>- Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand. Brand new, never mounted. $25
>- Zefal HPX 4 pump. Very good condition with one dent. $20
>- Pitlock system for front and rear (130/135mm) wheels and seatpost w/ 
>one key. $50
>- Shimano XT M771 derailer. Used 1 year, very good condition. $30
>- Shimano Dura-Ace Road Levers. Similar to the Tiagras Riv offers, but 
>Dura-Ace. Good condition. $25
>- Grandsfors Bruks Mini-Hatchet. Very lightly used a few times. Blade, 
>handle and sheath in very good condition. $70
>- B E-Werk USB charger + 1400mAH B "Puffer" cache battery. Never 
>used, sitting in original box all this time. 
>- ^^ Includes original box, manual and all connectors. $125 (a bit 
>less than what I paid buying from Europe). 
>- Park Tool bottom bracket tool for square taper (BB-22) and crank 
>puller (CCP-22). $15
>- Park Tool "4th Hand" cable stretcher tool. Very good condition. $20
>
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: WTT: 64cm Quickbeam for 62cm Yves Gomez or Betty Foy

[Mattt]

Price drop to $565 shipped.  

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

You can ask him how his Vivax motor is working out

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[NickBull]

That's already the best response possible ... as long as you could stay 
ahead of him for a decent interval.  If his wunderbike is so wunderful, why 
isn't he keeping up with you on it?

Alternatively, you could always tell him how much you admire his plastic 
Big Wheel bike.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:37:29 AM UTC-4, Julian wrote:
>
> Yes, I did speed off up a hill, which felt good.   :)
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:03:36 PM UTC-5, dstein wrote:
>>
>> Whatever, just smile and nod and keep on pedaling. Hopefully by 'rode 
>> away from him' that means you sped off in front of him, if not it doesn't 
>> even matter. I often get people commenting on my rivendell and similar 
>> bikes, i generally think they're positive but there's this weird west coast 
>> passive aggressive thing I've noticed in the 5 years that I've lived here 
>> that makes me think some are likely making fun of me. Doesn't matter either 
>> way. Just enjoying the ride. 
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:42:39 PM UTC-7, Julian wrote:
>>>
>>> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
>>> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
>>> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
>>> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>>>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
>>> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
>>> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>>>
>>> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
>>> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
>>> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
>>> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
>>> best to deal with people like that. 
>>>
>>> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
>>> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] German Mirror SOLD

[Eric Norris]

Second time was the charm. Thanks to all who expressed interest.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Patrick Moore]

I sold it to a randonneuse in Georgia, who loves it -- a Herse but not a
"collectible" one.

I should have kept that Motobecane!

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:11 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> I should have bought that Herse ...
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> The problem is not merely the Fred's ignorant opinions about bicycles,
> it's also his blatant rudeness, and IMO, a cheerful putdown is not at all
> out of place for such rudeness and crassness. "Cheerful." Isn't "admonish
> the foolish" a work of mercy?
>
> Once again, I have received only praise for my Rivendells and, when I
> owned that '58 Herse, the employees younger and older at the high end bike
> shop (High Desert) where I took it for repairs were all fascinated by it.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
Other professional writing services.
http://www.resumespecialties.com/
www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique,  Vereinigte Staaten
**
**
*The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
circumference on the contours of which all conditions, distinctions, and
individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu

*Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* *(The cross stands motionless while the
world revolves.) *Carthusian motto

*It is *we *who change; *He* remains the same.* Eckhart

*Kinei hos eromenon.* (*It moves [all things] as the beloved.) *Aristotle

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

I'm lucky - have never seen one in my size

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 11:12:40 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I should have bought that Herse ...
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Eric Norris]

I should have bought that Herse ...

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Apr 19, 2016, at 9:10 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> The problem is not merely the Fred's ignorant opinions about bicycles, it's 
> also his blatant rudeness, and IMO, a cheerful putdown is not at all out of 
> place for such rudeness and crassness. "Cheerful." Isn't "admonish the 
> foolish" a work of mercy?
> 
> Once again, I have received only praise for my Rivendells and, when I owned 
> that '58 Herse, the employees younger and older at the high end bike shop 
> (High Desert) where I took it for repairs were all fascinated by it.
> 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Patrick Moore]

The problem is not merely the Fred's ignorant opinions about bicycles, it's
also his blatant rudeness, and IMO, a cheerful putdown is not at all out of
place for such rudeness and crassness. "Cheerful." Isn't "admonish the
foolish" a work of mercy?

Once again, I have received only praise for my Rivendells and, when I owned
that '58 Herse, the employees younger and older at the high end bike shop
(High Desert) where I took it for repairs were all fascinated by it.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[drew]

yeah, comparing with 58cm atlanti online, it definitely does seem to be 
bigger. the head tube is significantly taller. this would definitely put it 
out of my useable range. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Steven Butcher]

My inclination is to thank the individual for his or her concern then allow 
them to blissfully continue in their ignorance.  

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[ChrisB]

Hi Julian
On the occasions that I took my AHH into a bike shop here in the UK the 
staff were always really impressed and told me what a lovely bike they 
thought it was. Often the owners (who, admittedly, were older) made a point 
of coming out to talk to me about it. To me these are the knowledgeable 
folks who know bikes and their genuine admiration made me feel good about 
my choice and their shop. In a similar vein to others, the AHH was, by a 
long shot, the bike that got the most admiration from people (family, 
friends and total strangers). My wife even had me bring it into the studio 
once when we had a family portrait done! Viva la difference!
Chris

On Tuesday, 19 April 2016 02:42:39 UTC+1, Julian wrote:

> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Ride report: Bethany Beach, DE

[Will Ashe]

Looks like such a fun ride, despite the headwinds. I spent summers as a kid in 
the Bethany Beach area. I'd love to get back there with my Sam for something 
like this. Thanks for sharing!

Will

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[sameness]

I've always wanted an Atlantis, but I pretty much have all the parts I'd 
want to hang on it, and I kinda hate parting out perfectly good bikes.

So I'll probably keep holding out on a frame unless you go ride it, pass on 
it, and/but tell me it's awesome.

I just used the CL email link last night. S/he emailed me back this AM.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 8:50:12 AM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> Jeff, are you sure you aren't interested? and how did you successfully 
> make contact? 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[Ian Wilder]

Definitely looks like a 61 based on the head tube, could be that the lister's 
seat tube measurement of 59cm came from a center to center measurement instead 
of center to top.

Ian

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Fwd: [RBW] German Mirror

[Eric Norris]

Still available … price reduced to $18 shipped. Help me get this fine German 
item on the road!

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Eric Norris 
> Subject: [RBW] FS: German Mirror
> Date: April 11, 2016 at 8:32:22 PM PDT
> To: RBW 
> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> That German mirror from Rivendell: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/m5.htm 
> 
> 
> Almost new, 100% mechanically perfect. 
> 
> $20 shipped in the USA.
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyonly...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com 
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch 
> .
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout 
> .

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Cambium C19's?

[Jim Bronson]

For my friends that ride Brooks saddles, the shape change signals that the
saddle is broken in to their rando-ing satisfaction.

On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Never used one but from what I gather:
> 1. No leather maintenance
> 2. Waterproof
> 3. Possible less shape change with use for less wonkiness.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
--
signature goes here

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[drew]

interesting points. i would definitely want it bump capable. still planning 
to check it out and still willing to facilitate. Jeff, are you sure you 
aren't interested? and how did you successfully make contact? 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Jim Bronson]

I'd let him know that "STEEL IS REAL!!!"

:D

On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 8:42 PM, Julian  wrote:

> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!)
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?,"
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two.
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how
> best to deal with people like that.
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal
> compared to this joker. How do you respond?
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
--
signature goes here

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Cambium C19's?

[Mike in WA]

I ordered a C19 and will be getting it on Thursday, will report back with 
my opinion. FWIW, I emailed Brooks and asked about  a slotted C19, but they 
have no current plans for one (though they said it's a possibility in the 
vague future). If the saddle fits better for me, I may try to improvise my 
own slot for better flexibility. -- Mike 

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 9:07:10 AM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>
> My C19 arrived in the mail, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. 
> In the hand, it is wider but seems no more flexible than a C17.
>
> If your bones are wider, the C19 might fit you better. Sitting upright, my 
> sit bones are about 15cm wide.
>
> My C17 isn't comfortable on my Hunqapillar with Alba bars, but is very 
> comfortable on my AHH with Noodle drops set a hair above the saddle. 
> Leaning forward, my sit bones are narrower.
>
> I fear this whole riding more upright with albatross bars may not really 
> be my thing, though. I'm not giving up on my Albatross bars yet, but I am 
> finding riding to be much more fun with my 48 cm Noodles than with my 
> Albatross bars.
>
> Maybe I just need to full retro with my Hunqapillar and order a completely 
> sprung out Brooks B135, a travel tea service & pith helmet.  :)
>
> John
>
> On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 12:00:45 PM UTC-7, John Phillips wrote:
>>
>> I ordered one this week to try out on my Hunqapillar. 
>>
>> Has anyone ridden one of these wider Cambium's yet?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis ride report - "executive racing"

[John Phillips]

Thanks for the advice, Mark, they look like a great design though.

John

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 8:22:13 AM UTC-7, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> Thanks John! Those are made from leather material I got as off-cuts from a 
> place next door to my work. Cost me 10 bucks and I got enough material to 
> make a few pairs. However, I wouldn't do it again. It's heavy duty leather 
> but doesn't hold up to the moisture. Next time I'll use some kind of 
> plastic or rubber
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:46 AM, John Phillips  > wrote:
>
>> Nice looking mud flaps, Mark, what are they made from?
>>
>> John
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/G222eGr2xR8/unsubscribe
>> .
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

Eric is right, all discourse is good and it's healthy to keep it positive.  

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 10:37:21 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> First of all, I’ve never heard anything but complimentary comments about 
> any of my Rivs.
>
> Second, I think that responding to criticism of my bike by criticizing the 
> other guy’s bike is not an appropriate response. After all, do you really 
> care what this other guy thinks about your bike? 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Eric Norris]

First of all, I’ve never heard anything but complimentary comments about any of 
my Rivs.

Second, I think that responding to criticism of my bike by criticizing the 
other guy’s bike is not an appropriate response. After all, do you really care 
what this other guy thinks about your bike? 

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Apr 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Geir Bentzen  wrote:
> 
> I think the best response is this...
>  
> Hey (carbon-guy) would you like to swap for an hour? 
> 
> Because we know (WE KNOW) that Rivs plus 30-40 mm tires beat everything out 
> there for speed and comfort. Those carbon frames with 24 mm tires suck. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Geir Bentzen]

I think we should remember the positive. I have received lots of 'cool
bike' type of comments to my Hunqapillar. I also teach a safety course
called Group Riding Skills. The Hunqapillar is in front of the room as the
demonstration bike and I use it for the outside part to teach the riders
avoidance skills, braking and close proximity riding. Never a single
negative comment.

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016, Will  wrote:

> I think the best response is this...
>
> Hey (carbon-guy) would you like to swap for an hour?
>
> Because we know (WE KNOW) that Rivs plus 30-40 mm tires beat everything
> out there for speed and comfort. Those carbon frames with 24 mm tires suck.
>
>
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>>
>> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect
>> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying
>> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really
>> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!)
>>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?,"
>> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few
>> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two.
>>
>> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs
>> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the
>> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got
>> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how
>> best to deal with people like that.
>>
>> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal
>> compared to this joker. How do you respond?
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/jNL7I4nvEmI/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
> 
> .
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> .
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis ride report - "executive racing"

[Mark Reimer]

Thanks John! Those are made from leather material I got as off-cuts from a
place next door to my work. Cost me 10 bucks and I got enough material to
make a few pairs. However, I wouldn't do it again. It's heavy duty leather
but doesn't hold up to the moisture. Next time I'll use some kind of
plastic or rubber

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 9:46 AM, John Phillips 
wrote:

> Nice looking mud flaps, Mark, what are they made from?
>
> John
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/G222eGr2xR8/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Will]

I think the best response is this...
 
Hey (carbon-guy) would you like to swap for an hour? 

Because we know (WE KNOW) that Rivs plus 30-40 mm tires beat everything out 
there for speed and comfort. Those carbon frames with 24 mm tires suck. 



On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[jeffrey kane]

Mark, that's funny-- I used to ride with the ABC guys, too (but not in about 8 
or more years now). I remember the president being a really tall guy named 
Doug. He rode one of those wacky Ti Colnago's with the double down tube and 
there was a mix of what I'd consider Bobish types and common Freds. I, at the 
time was an absolute Fred in the heyday of my racing days so I was always 
amused by the "old" dudes on the old bikes ... 

As for the unsolicited comments: it wasn't until I bought my first 650b bike 
and read some of the cyclotouring/rando history articles in BQ that I came to 
realize just how little I really knew about cycling. 

Last time I did a club ride (three summers ago) I was on my "old" Giant TCR and 
23's. I had already drank the 650b x 42 cool aid at that point but was at the 
shore and bored and figured what the hell  well, the group leader (a bike 
shop manager) gave me grief over not having my tires inflated enough. I took a 
deep breath and thought "wow, really?" and proceeded to discuss the pro trend 
towards bigger tires (like, even 25's) -- he thought I was crazy but I insisted 
bigger tires were in his future as a shop guy. The blank stare back was 
priceless …

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] FS Phil Wood Rivy wheel set (650b)

[Trevor saxton]

Photos will be sent, approx 50 miles on the rear wheel, zero miles on the 
front.  Photos tonight. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Atlantis ride report - "executive racing"

[John Phillips]

Nice looking mud flaps, Mark, what are they made from?

John

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[A CT Cyclist]

Thanks, I'm leaning towards the honey b17 imperial

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Avery Wilson  wrote:

> I have a honey B17 regular. Bought it new and I've had it on 3 bikes and
> 6-7k miles. It's really comfortable to me, and I don't recall ever having a
> problem with dye bleeding out, and I certainly don't now.  I usually wear
> jeans or khaki cargo shorts, so I'd notice on my shorts if it were a
> problem. Never had a black leather saddle.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cYkAh6-O9ao/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Kurt Manley]

Just pull a deli sandwich, a tall can of beer, and a cup of coffee out of 
your shopsack while riding and commence feasting. Offer him a gu 
packet...

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:42:39 PM UTC-7, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[Dave C]

The size is fine if you are going with road tires, but if you want the 
biggest tires it can fit I believe it would be tight. Standover was usually 
calculated with 35 mm tires. IMO, road riding will be fine, bumpy dirt 
roads with fat tires not so much.

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 11:17:18 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:
>
> considering 5'10ish with a 85pbh. is this too big? its right down the 
> street from my old house. 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Unlike Avery, I have had honey stains. Like with the black dye, it comes 
off in moist conditions--rain or sweat. As others have pointed out, the 
Select does not have any dye. I got one, like it a lot. I'm guessing the 
quality/thickness of the leather is probably what the original B17 were 
back in the day. As also mentioned, it turns very close to the honey color 
in a relatively short time, especially after treating it with Proofide or 
Obenaufs. I think I posted a comparison photo, but that might have been on 
another list.  Regarding saddle covers, fine for out in a downpour, but if 
you must use one all the time, that is worse than a clear plastic couch 
cover--at least you can see through that. 

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 9:48:33 AM UTC-4, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>
> Does anyone have any experience with the honey color staining light 
> colored clothing? 
>
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Ron Mc  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> also going to add a caveat, which I used yesterday when seeing photos of 
>> a classic lightweight upright mixte sporting a narrow road saddle - saddle 
>> choice is a Very Personal thing.  
>> Also got to agree with Joe that the question of who is breaking in whom 
>> is not always clear...
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:25:53 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>>
>>> Fair question.  I am a big boy, 6'3", 210 lbs.  (not too much blimper 
>>> than the 190 fighting trim when I was 19 and running the marine corps PAT, 
>>> wow, 40 years ago).  
>>> Will also add where the Special was inadequate was on my upright bike.  
>>> On my moustache cockpit bike, I'm still running a Special after several 
>>> thousand miles.  So riding position is a factor in needing the extra 2mm 
>>> leather thickness in a Select. On my drop-bar road bike, Rivet Indy remains 
>>> my preference for fit, and wouldn't want the shape of a B17 here.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:12:22 PM UTC-5, A CT Cyclist wrote:

 Hope this isn't too personal but how much do you guys weigh. Also I 
 tried a Cambium today it was too hard for me.


 -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the 
>> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cYkAh6-O9ao/unsubscribe
>> .
>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
>> rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[sameness]

>From seller:

Wheels are XT to Sun CR18
> LX rear derailleur
> Campy front derailleur
> Ultegra headset
> Shimano R550 cantilevers
> Sugino triple crankset
> Nitto seatpost
> Nitto Technomic Stem
> Nitto handlebar 
>
Continental Touring Plus tires
>

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Geir Bentzen]

Here in Texas they put sensors in the street at traffic lights. A steel 
bike gets you a green light. Carbon fiber lets you stand there. Enjoy what 
you have!

Geir

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:42:39 PM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: 56cm or 58cm Atlantis

[dougP]

Mark:

Atlantis always used the two wheel sizes with 26 on 56 & smaller.

Dougp

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[Avery Wilson]

I have a honey B17 regular. Bought it new and I've had it on 3 bikes and 6-7k 
miles. It's really comfortable to me, and I don't recall ever having a problem 
with dye bleeding out, and I certainly don't now.  I usually wear jeans or 
khaki cargo shorts, so I'd notice on my shorts if it were a problem. Never had 
a black leather saddle. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[drew]

I'm planning to look at it. Though I haven't heard back. I could possibly 
facilitate, if it doesn't fit me. Send me a pm

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[A CT Cyclist]

Nope, not my first leather saddle, remember I'm the OP with the black
leather saddle staining light colored clothing.  I have a b68 on my more
upright bike and the saddle in question is b17 Imperial which I
inadvertently got furniture polish on. I believe that was the catalyst for
the bleed, although I realize there is always the potential for the dye to
come off of any leather saddle. From what I've read and seen it seems like
the black saddles are the worse offenders. Does anyone have any experience
with the honey color staining light colored clothing?

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

>
> also going to add a caveat, which I used yesterday when seeing photos of a
> classic lightweight upright mixte sporting a narrow road saddle - saddle
> choice is a Very Personal thing.
> Also got to agree with Joe that the question of who is breaking in whom is
> not always clear...
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:25:53 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Fair question.  I am a big boy, 6'3", 210 lbs.  (not too much blimper
>> than the 190 fighting trim when I was 19 and running the marine corps PAT,
>> wow, 40 years ago).
>> Will also add where the Special was inadequate was on my upright bike.
>> On my moustache cockpit bike, I'm still running a Special after several
>> thousand miles.  So riding position is a factor in needing the extra 2mm
>> leather thickness in a Select. On my drop-bar road bike, Rivet Indy remains
>> my preference for fit, and wouldn't want the shape of a B17 here.
>>
>> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:12:22 PM UTC-5, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>>>
>>> Hope this isn't too personal but how much do you guys weigh. Also I
>>> tried a Cambium today it was too hard for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cYkAh6-O9ao/unsubscribe
> .
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Kainalu]

There's always this- (trigger warning: bike on bike violence)

https://youtu.be/GpwxdvuOMQA

-Kai
Brooklyn NY 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Tim Gavin]

I don't go on club rides.  They don't ride where or how I like to ride.  My
"club" rides gravel and b-roads.

The "roadie attitude" is another reason I stay away from club rides.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Preston Smith 
wrote:

> I get that sorta thing  ALL the time, and I get a kick out of it! Being a
> fairly young rider, (25 years old) older roadies chat me up all the time,
> most of these guys are great and are familiar with Rivendell...but not all
> of em are fun to talk to. The latter commenting/asking "how old is that
> thing?" "How much does it weigh?" "You expecting rain with those fenders?"
> and of course  "your making us look bad!" I hear that one all the time. I
> usually think to myself "your doing a fine job on your own". I think most
> of these guys just don't get it. They've been told by peers that they need
> a race bikes to keep up or to have fun or whatever, and when they see you,
> it's mind melting. They can't help but say something dumb. I wouldn't take
> these comments to seriously. Engage with them when you wanna talk, and
> laugh em off when you don't.
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Preston Smith]

I get that sorta thing  ALL the time, and I get a kick out of it! Being a 
fairly young rider, (25 years old) older roadies chat me up all the time, most 
of these guys are great and are familiar with Rivendell...but not all of em are 
fun to talk to. The latter commenting/asking "how old is that thing?" "How much 
does it weigh?" "You expecting rain with those fenders?" and of course  "your 
making us look bad!" I hear that one all the time. I usually think to myself 
"your doing a fine job on your own". I think most of these guys just don't get 
it. They've been told by peers that they need a race bikes to keep up or to 
have fun or whatever, and when they see you, it's mind melting. They can't help 
but say something dumb. I wouldn't take these comments to seriously. Engage 
with them when you wanna talk, and laugh em off when you don't.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[Eric]

Looks larger than 58...maybe the angle?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[Eric]

I could give that bike a great home! I emailed but he probably wants to deal 
local.

Any facilitation available? I'd make it worth your time/effort.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Deacon Patrick]

How do you tell them apart? Moron is a subset of fool.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:21:04 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'll put some effort into suffering fools gladly. Morons get no such 
> grace. 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[Belopsky]

the 58cm has a standover of 83.2.
*I* think it would be great.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: 56cm or 58cm Atlantis

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I know this does not really affect sizing, but I am curious. The Atlantis' 
sized 58 and up are 700C. Was there a time when all the sizes were 
available as 26"? Or am I confusing this with the LHT, which I think still 
offers both wheel sizes after 56cm?

On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 2:13:13 PM UTC-4, Ian Wilder wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> I'm thinking I'm finally in the market for an Atlantis! I am torn between 
> the 56 and the 58 size (story of my adult bike life). I would prefer a size 
> that allows me to comfortably set up albatross bars or drop bars. 
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

 When I visit my mother on the Jersey Shore, where I've been riding with 
the Atlantic Bicycle Club since Lemond won the tour, I am generally the  
only rider on steel. One day I showed up with my Ron Kitching, which 
admittedly has a decent amount of beausage. The club president greeted me 
with "Where did you get that P-O-S?" More or less in a joking spirit.

As for your encounter, it does sound annoying. But I would not judge quite 
so harshly. This person is probably a bit socially inept. I would try one 
of two strategies. First, a bit of humor. "I wanted a Trek Madone, but they 
don't come in orange, so the sales person recommended this bike." "Yes, I 
would love a Calfee. Sadly, I am highly allergic to carbon fibers and break 
out in awful hives. Oops, you're getting a little too close there!" If this 
does not quell his desire to dispense free commentary, try deflecting the 
attention back to him: "Enough about me. How much does your bike weigh? 
Wow! How much with you on it?" "Hey, cool jersey. I just love the way it 
follows every contour of your bod. Sex-ay!" As a last resort, If he still 
won't leave you alone, try the Mafia Guy on Trial Insanity move:"I have to 
ride steel. The reception when the space lizards contact me is so much 
better." If that doesn't get rid of him, you've found a riding partner for 
life! 

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 9:42:39 PM UTC-4, Julian wrote:
>
> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>
> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
> best to deal with people like that. 
>
> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

and if all else fails and the need to retort prevails, there's always the 
Bullwinkle show  http://bullwinkle.toonzone.net/knowall.wav

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:28:33 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Michael, that still defines a control freak.  For me, it wouldn't be worth 
> a retort, maybe just a grin.  Getting into bike conversations is always 
> part of the fun, and it's fair to expect it to work both ways.  Again, I 
> would give an ear to the guy and if he didn't have an ear for me, just keep 
> pedaling.  
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[Ron Mc]

also going to add a caveat, which I used yesterday when seeing photos of a 
classic lightweight upright mixte sporting a narrow road saddle - saddle 
choice is a Very Personal thing.  
Also got to agree with Joe that the question of who is breaking in whom is 
not always clear...

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:25:53 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Fair question.  I am a big boy, 6'3", 210 lbs.  (not too much blimper than 
> the 190 fighting trim when I was 19 and running the marine corps PAT, wow, 
> 40 years ago).  
> Will also add where the Special was inadequate was on my upright bike.  On 
> my moustache cockpit bike, I'm still running a Special after several 
> thousand miles.  So riding position is a factor in needing the extra 2mm 
> leather thickness in a Select. On my drop-bar road bike, Rivet Indy remains 
> my preference for fit, and wouldn't want the shape of a B17 here.  
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:12:22 PM UTC-5, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>>
>> Hope this isn't too personal but how much do you guys weigh. Also I tried 
>> a Cambium today it was too hard for me.
>>
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

Michael, that still defines a control freak.  For me, it wouldn't be worth 
a retort, maybe just a grin.  Getting into bike conversations is always 
part of the fun, and it's fair to expect it to work both ways.  Again, I 
would give an ear to the guy and if he didn't have an ear for me, just keep 
pedaling.  

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 5:29:23 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> I suspect it's more about reassuring himself than actually trying to 
> control you.  How about, "Thank you for sharing, but your opinions are none 
> of my business."
> Michael
>
> On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:18:56 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> Offering unsolicited advice is the definition of a control freak
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Leather saddle bleed

[Ron Mc]

Fair question.  I am a big boy, 6'3", 210 lbs.  (not too much blimper than 
the 190 fighting trim when I was 19 and running the marine corps PAT, wow, 
40 years ago).  
Will also add where the Special was inadequate was on my upright bike.  On 
my moustache cockpit bike, I'm still running a Special after several 
thousand miles.  So riding position is a factor in needing the extra 2mm 
leather thickness in a Select. On my drop-bar road bike, Rivet Indy remains 
my preference for fit, and wouldn't want the shape of a B17 here.  

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 8:12:22 PM UTC-5, A CT Cyclist wrote:
>
> Hope this isn't too personal but how much do you guys weigh. Also I tried 
> a Cambium today it was too hard for me.
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Garth]

I can lie to anyone about anything, and that lying includes why this is better 
or worse than that, I am right and you are wrong, and continue to lie by giving 
evidence to support my claim and deny yours.   Huh.  That feels pretty crappy, 
but there I go teĺling another lie of excuses ! Huh.   I can fool the world and 
even myself , for awhile.. but I can never ever fool my heart.  The heart 
knows nothing of this polarizing of right and wrong, good and bad, superioŕ and 
inferior..it is all meaningless because it all speaks of everything the 
heart is not and never could possibly be, limited in any way. Pure.   

Anyone that disagrè with this would be like an echo of self lying, the futility 
of claiming the impossible is possible. 

So I ride my bicycle this day and live my life from my heart. just like 
being in love. Not the kind of love hat is afraid of it going away, but the 
love that is irrevocably with me and all there is of "me".   It's the darndest 
thing...   smiling

Here is as good any other here , so here  is actually as wonderful and as 
possible here. Huh.   How bout that..

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

Thanks to all -- not really that big of a deal, just annoying. 

It is true that most comments I get are positive. 

We'll have to see if he continues to show up on rides, and if he's had his 
fill of being obnoxious with me. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

Yes, I did speed off up a hill, which felt good.   :)

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 10:03:36 PM UTC-5, dstein wrote:
>
> Whatever, just smile and nod and keep on pedaling. Hopefully by 'rode away 
> from him' that means you sped off in front of him, if not it doesn't even 
> matter. I often get people commenting on my rivendell and similar bikes, i 
> generally think they're positive but there's this weird west coast passive 
> aggressive thing I've noticed in the 5 years that I've lived here that 
> makes me think some are likely making fun of me. Doesn't matter either way. 
> Just enjoying the ride. 
>
> On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 6:42:39 PM UTC-7, Julian wrote:
>>
>> I was out on my Rambouillet on a club ride on Sunday (a near perfect 
>> spring day -- sun, blue skies, temps in upper 70's, little wind), enjoying 
>> the day and the company for the most part, until a fellow I do not really 
>> know (those who know me consider the Ram comparatively normal for me!) 
>>  rode up on a carbon "wonder bike", said "where'd you get that relic?," 
>> "that thing must be a tank," "you're making the club look bad," and a few 
>> other choice bits accompanied by a chuckle or two. 
>>
>> I tried to be polite, pointing out it was not really vintage, that Rivs 
>> have great ride characteristics, beautiful aesthetics, that It was the 
>> right bike for "me" etc. -- to no avail. After a few minutes of this I got 
>> fed up and told him to be quiet and rode away from him. I'm not sure how 
>> best to deal with people like that. 
>>
>> I get this sort of thing from time to time, but usually really minimal 
>> compared to this joker. How do you respond? 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Julian]

Heh! I'm surprised he did not comment on the fact I carry a full sized 
frame pump instead of CO2! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 9:13:58 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> So there's always this: https://youtu.be/GpwxdvuOMQA?t=1m22s 
>
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 7:06 PM, dougP  
> wrote: 
> > "So why would you be interested in my old steel tank?" 
> > 
> > Dougp 
> > 
> > -- 
> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 
> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com . 
> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> . 
> > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. 
> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. 
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers, 
> David 
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace 
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Rivendell, A. Homer Hilsen - $3200

[Michael Hechmer]

Fabulous build.  Unfortunately it doesn't fit me or anyone in my family.
Michael

On Monday, April 18, 2016 at 3:31:06 PM UTC-4, Monique Arsenault wrote:
>
> A.H.H. came out in the summer of 2006. Serial number 0069. Nitto drop 
> handlebars & stem. Shimano break levers, Tektro R556 sidepulls front & 
> back. (650 B) 90% nifty swifty kevlar tires, no flats. 32 hole synergy rim, 
> stainless spokes. Polished stainless fenders. Schmidt front hub, Dynamo, 
> E-3 front light, rear light is a Top Lite XS, 3 watt system. Shimano bar 
> shifters with IRD ALPINA Front shifter and a Shimano Ultegra rears shifter. 
> T.A., Carmina Specialties (France) cranks, bottom bracket stainless, new 
> middle ring. (I'll have to take crank off to determine whether Philwood). 
> White industries rear hub with a brand new cassette. Shimano XC pedals. 
> Brooks B-17 saddle on a Nitto post. Tubus rear rack is titanium. This bike 
> is a solid riding precision machine that coasts farther and faster than any 
> of my other Rivs. And is so pretty, it sparkles in the sunlight, well, at 
> least the forks do. My favorite part, however, is the serial number. Jordan 
> (360)296-5939 Thanks for the feedback; size is 54cm, $3200.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Michael Hechmer]

I suspect it's more about reassuring himself than actually trying to 
control you.  How about, "Thank you for sharing, but your opinions are none 
of my business."
Michael

On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 6:18:56 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Offering unsolicited advice is the definition of a control freak

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Ron Mc]

Offering unsolicited advice is the definition of a control freak

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: 56cm or 58cm Atlantis

[Matt B.]

The 58 is definitely not too big for 85cm pbh


On Tuesday, April 19, 2016 at 2:22:53 AM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> ok so now there is a 58cm on my local craigslist. im about 5'10 with an 85 
> pbh.  too big? wishful thinking?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: 56cm or 58cm Atlantis

[drew]

ok so now there is a 58cm on my local craigslist. im about 5'10 with an 85 
pbh.  too big? wishful thinking?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: PSA: 58cm Atlantis on Los Angeles Craigslist

[drew]

considering 5'10ish with a 85pbh. is this too big? its right down the 
street from my old house. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.