Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Front Racks and Baskets for All-Rounders/Atlantis/etc?

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

I have a Rawlands demi- porteur rack on the way for my Sam with centerpulls.
I was assured by Rawlands that the rack will work with a spacer washer to 
clear the headset...we'll see.
They also said the Rawlands is good for 22LBS.
Jon

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-7, Jon BALER wrote:

> It's interesting that Rawland and Soma both introduce an aluminum, demi 
> porteur rack around the same time.  Since the Salsa minimalist rack went 
> out of production, it seems this has been missing in the marketplace for a 
> while.  (and the minimalist rack was a long rack, not so much a wide 
> porteur rack)
>
> I'm surprised Soma went with welded struts.  Replaceable struts allow 
> longer struts for reaching lower mounts commonly found on touring and 
> commuting bikes.  My ideal rack design would be adjustable at both mounting 
> points.
>
> I just received the Rawland demi porteur rack, and tried to install it on 
> my Rosco.  I was able to add a spacer to get it to clear the headset, but 
> there is no way to add a spacer to clear the brake cable housing barrel. 
>  The rack will be going on my salsa mariachi instead.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
>>
>> I think I'd prefer a bolt tab on the strut as opposed to a nice looking 
>> weld. It is a good looking rack, tho, and I'm going to Pedel Revolution to 
>> check one out.
>>
>> Patrick
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:01 AM arthur  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Here's another one to consider: a new mass production variation on the 
>>> Cyclefab/Haulin' Colin front rack: the SOMA demi-porteur: 
>>> http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/demi-porteur-rack. I have one: 
>>> it's aluminium, but nicely made. No light mount, but (in my opinion) there 
>>> are lots of ways around that. Claims to support 10kg. Ideal size for a 
>>> basket.
>>>
>>> Art
>>> Tacoma
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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RE: [RBW] Re: Favorite Front Racks and Baskets forAll-Rounders/Atlantis/etc?

[Jon Schultz]

Oops, I meant my rack will be going on my Salsa Marrakesh.

Clearing the headset should be doable.  You can put spacers behind the tab.  My 
issue was there no way to adjust the caliper brake relative to the rack in the 
direction I needed.

-Original Message-
From: "Jon Dukeman,central Colorado" 
Sent: ‎1/‎30/‎2017 9:26 AM
To: "RBW Owners Bunch" 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Favorite Front Racks and Baskets 
forAll-Rounders/Atlantis/etc?

I have a Rawlands demi- porteur rack on the way for my Sam with centerpulls.
I was assured by Rawlands that the rack will work with a spacer washer to clear 
the headset...we'll see.
They also said the Rawlands is good for 22LBS.
Jon

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:02:14 AM UTC-7, Jon BALER wrote:
It's interesting that Rawland and Soma both introduce an aluminum, demi porteur 
rack around the same time.  Since the Salsa minimalist rack went out of 
production, it seems this has been missing in the marketplace for a while.  
(and the minimalist rack was a long rack, not so much a wide porteur rack)


I'm surprised Soma went with welded struts.  Replaceable struts allow longer 
struts for reaching lower mounts commonly found on touring and commuting bikes. 
 My ideal rack design would be adjustable at both mounting points.

I just received the Rawland demi porteur rack, and tried to install it on my 
Rosco.  I was able to add a spacer to get it to clear the headset, but there is 
no way to add a spacer to clear the brake cable housing barrel.  The rack will 
be going on my salsa mariachi instead.




On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 12:59:56 PM UTC-5, Patrick Shea wrote:
I think I'd prefer a bolt tab on the strut as opposed to a nice looking weld. 
It is a good looking rack, tho, and I'm going to Pedel Revolution to check one 
out.


Patrick
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:01 AM arthur  wrote:


Here's another one to consider: a new mass production variation on the 
Cyclefab/Haulin' Colin front rack: the SOMA demi-porteur: 
http://www.somafab.com/archives/product/demi-porteur-rack. I have one: it's 
aluminium, but nicely made. No light mount, but (in my opinion) there are lots 
of ways around that. Claims to support 10kg. Ideal size for a basket.


Art
Tacoma









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[RBW] Re: Online store for front light mount options

[Anton Tutter]

For anyone who has a German headlight (Edelux, Supernova, B&M, etc) that 
uses a standard 10mm wide base with an M6 mounting bolt, I sell my 
headlight mount for metal fenders:

I will have more stock this week.

http://www.velolumino.com/at-headlight-mount.html

Anton
velolumino.com

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 6:22:51 AM UTC-5, Daniel Betancourt wrote:
>
> I normally bike during the work week in the dark early morning hours and 
> have been looking for a way to mount my LED light to my front rack or fork. 
> I found the following online store and ordered the two parts below to try 
> out. I'll make sure to post an update once they arrive.
>
> https://www.modernbike.com/light-mounts-and-brackets
>
> Problem Solvers Front Rack Light Mount Black
> Problem Solvers Quick Release Light Mount
>
> Dan
>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Favorite Front Racks and Baskets forAll-Rounders/Atlantis/etc?

[Jon Dukeman,central Colorado]

Lol oops I meant on my Cheviot.not my Sam

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[RBW] Re: Online store for front light mount options

[panog]

Any idea where to find the grommets and washers needed to allow for 
left-to-right tilting adjustment of an Edelux mounted on a front rack?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Extension bar for the German Mirror?

[Tim Gavin]

I prefer a different German mirror, the Busch & Muller Cyclestar.

They're much more durable than Riv's German mirror (I've broken three of
those), and they have a glass mirror surface that doesn't scratch as
easily.  The hardware is mostly metal instead of plastic.

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/mirrors.php
https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/mirrors-58/brand-busch_%2B_mueller

They have two sizes of mirror:
901 models are 55 mm (2")
903 models are 81 mm (3")
And 4 mount variants:
901, 903 have a long curved bar
901/1, 903/1 have a short, straight bar
901/2, 903/2 have just a bar-end mount
901/3, 903/3 have a short, curved bar

Except the 901/2 and 903/2, they all include both bar-end and band-clamp
base mounts.


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> Panog: That's a very good point. The mirror shakes some as is, so a longer
> arm could be a problem.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Extension bar for the German Mirror?

[Tim Gavin]

Hmm, I've never seen that one before.  I'm not sure about the mirror shape,
but the hardware looks sturdy.  It looks like it only fits MTB bars (22.2
mm diameter).

Best of luck,
Tim

On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Daniel Betancourt 
wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I ended up ordering the bike mirror below from
> Amazon that arrives today. I like that Cycle Star 80 - 903 Part # B&M903
> mirror and would have ordered that if I saw it earlier. If the one I
> ordered from Amazon doesn't fly, I'll be ordering it.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NJ59Q6/ref=oh_aui_
> detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
> Thanks,
> Dan
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 10:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I prefer a different German mirror, the Busch & Muller Cyclestar.
>>
>> They're much more durable than Riv's German mirror (I've broken three of
>> those), and they have a glass mirror surface that doesn't scratch as
>> easily.  The hardware is mostly metal instead of plastic.
>>
>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/mirrors.php
>> https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/mirrors-58/brand-busch_%2B_mueller
>>
>> They have two sizes of mirror:
>> 901 models are 55 mm (2")
>> 903 models are 81 mm (3")
>> And 4 mount variants:
>> 901, 903 have a long curved bar
>> 901/1, 903/1 have a short, straight bar
>> 901/2, 903/2 have just a bar-end mount
>> 901/3, 903/3 have a short, curved bar
>>
>> Except the 901/2 and 903/2, they all include both bar-end and band-clamp
>> base mounts.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Panog: That's a very good point. The mirror shakes some as is, so a
>>> longer arm could be a problem.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Extension bar for the German Mirror?

[Daniel Betancourt]

Tim,

Thanks for the feedback. I ended up ordering the bike mirror below from 
Amazon that arrives today. I like that Cycle Star 80 - 903 Part # B&M903 
mirror and would have ordered that if I saw it earlier. If the one I 
ordered from Amazon doesn't fly, I'll be ordering it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NJ59Q6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks,
Dan

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 10:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I prefer a different German mirror, the Busch & Muller Cyclestar.  
>
> They're much more durable than Riv's German mirror (I've broken three of 
> those), and they have a glass mirror surface that doesn't scratch as 
> easily.  The hardware is mostly metal instead of plastic.
>
> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/mirrors.php
> https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/mirrors-58/brand-busch_%2B_mueller
>
> They have two sizes of mirror: 
> 901 models are 55 mm (2")
> 903 models are 81 mm (3")
> And 4 mount variants: 
> 901, 903 have a long curved bar
> 901/1, 903/1 have a short, straight bar
> 901/2, 903/2 have just a bar-end mount
> 901/3, 903/3 have a short, curved bar
>
> Except the 901/2 and 903/2, they all include both bar-end and band-clamp 
> base mounts.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Panog: That's a very good point. The mirror shakes some as is, so a 
>> longer arm could be a problem.
>>
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[RBW] Which bike for hippie music?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In June I'll be heading west from KC to combine my two great passions, music 
and cycling. I'm seeing Dead and Company in Mountain View, CA, Salt Lake City, 
and Boulder, CO. So, which Riv to take? I will definitely make my first 
pilgrimage to Riv, and will have time for two days with shorter windows (2-5 
hrs) of riding and an all day explore ( probably Riv visit day too.)  Then no 
real interest in anything more than sightseeing and coffee/lunch in Salt Lake. 
I definitely want to stop in Moab on the way to Boulder for a half day or so 
ride since My first time there was post-hip replacement this past September so 
I could only look longingly... Then just probably putzing around in Boulder 
since I'll need the recovery by then, but who knows.  

So, which bike? 1. The Hilsen, fendered, Berthoud h-bar bag, 38mm Compass 
tires, my PBP tested, trusty steed for years. 2. The Hunq. No fenders, just now 
getting dialed in, sort of, (with much thanks to Bill Lindsay for his deep 
knowledge and help in troubleshooting), after 4 years of ownership and not 
ridden much. Nit to Big rear rack, Smart Sams (but thinking about Racing 
Ralph's or something else). 3. The Roadeo. Set up as my go fast. 32mm Compass.

All three bikes are great. I bought the Hunq with single track in mind, and 
have used it for that some, but like I said, it needs fine tuned. I ride 90% on 
the road but this might be a great time to get acquainted on trails with the 
Hunqapillar. Oh, and I want to ride Mt. Diablo. 

What's the consensus of the group?

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[RBW] Which bike for hippie music?

[panog]

My vote goes to the Hilsen. If you've done PBP on it, you know the bike and the 
bike knows you. Fenders and racks are good features to have and one of the 
detractions from the Roadeo and a long trip as this. The Hunq is not meant for 
this kind of trip, IMO, specially if you have the other choices available. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv parts, big apple tires, and rear tubus rack

[Jeffrey B]

Still available, at reduced prices:

Paul thumbies with 9 speed dura-ace shifters - $65
Lone peak panniers - $55
Clem 29er rear wheel - $65

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[RBW] Re: From the mouths of babes.

[Daniel Betancourt]

Great post Marc. Thanks for sharing.

Dan

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 11:09:25 AM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> People reading my blog really seem to like this so I thought I would share 
> it here.
>
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-mouths-of-babes.html
>
> Marc
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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Jim M.]

How about an old Fisher?

[image: Image result for bob weir mountain bike]

Also, Biking with Bobby: http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/weir_page_1.htm

Let us know when you're in the bay if you want Diablo company.

jim m
wc, ca


On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 9:10:03 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> In June I'll be heading west from KC to combine my two great passions, 
> music and cycling. I'm seeing Dead and Company in Mountain View, CA, Salt 
> Lake City, and Boulder, CO. So, which Riv to take? I will definitely make 
> my first pilgrimage to Riv, and will have time for two days with shorter 
> windows (2-5 hrs) of riding and an all day explore ( probably Riv visit day 
> too.)  Then no real interest in anything more than sightseeing and 
> coffee/lunch in Salt Lake. I definitely want to stop in Moab on the way to 
> Boulder for a half day or so ride since My first time there was post-hip 
> replacement this past September so I could only look longingly... Then just 
> probably putzing around in Boulder since I'll need the recovery by then, 
> but who knows.  
>
> So, which bike? 1. The Hilsen, fendered, Berthoud h-bar bag, 38mm Compass 
> tires, my PBP tested, trusty steed for years. 2. The Hunq. No fenders, just 
> now getting dialed in, sort of, (with much thanks to Bill Lindsay for his 
> deep knowledge and help in troubleshooting), after 4 years of ownership and 
> not ridden much. Nit to Big rear rack, Smart Sams (but thinking about 
> Racing Ralph's or something else). 3. The Roadeo. Set up as my go fast. 
> 32mm Compass.
>
> All three bikes are great. I bought the Hunq with single track in mind, 
> and have used it for that some, but like I said, it needs fine tuned. I 
> ride 90% on the road but this might be a great time to get acquainted on 
> trails with the Hunqapillar. Oh, and I want to ride Mt. Diablo. 
>
> What's the consensus of the group?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Minimotos

[Jim M.]

Dutch auction time: $220 shipped.

On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 4:44:50 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Somehow I ended up with a set of Paul Minmotos (short-pull linear pull 
> brakes) and Paul Love Levers (long pull). I'm selling the Minimotos and 
> using the Love Levers with some Motolites. These are new, never mounted, 
> black Minimotos. I did open the package to fidget with them. Here's a pic: 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> The tape is there to keep the small bits from getting lost. Paul charges 
> $284 plus shipping for 2 wheels worth. You can have these for $240 shipped.
>
>
> jim m
>
> wc, ca
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. 55cm Bleriot frame set

[Danno]

I'm a little late on this but wanted to add my two cents.

I have a PBH of around 81 (haven't measured it exactly in a while) and have 
a 55 cm Bleriot.  I have found it to be on the small side for me.  
Remember, Riv frames are center to TOP unlike many other standard frame 
measurements of center to center, which I usually take at 55 cm also.  Add 
in that it is 650b size tires and I have the feeling that it is too small 
for me when I ride it, compared to standard c-c frames with 700c wheels.

I need to get the dust off of it and take some pictures so I can post it 
for sale here.

Dan 
Richmond, VA

On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 1:40:03 PM UTC-5, Derek Lawrence wrote:
>
> Anyone have impressions of sizing on the Bleriot? I have PBH of 81.3. It 
> looks like 55 may be a bit big.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Ron Mc]

not old enough for hippie music
Roadeo fits the times

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 11:48:24 AM UTC-6, Jim M. wrote:
>
> How about an old Fisher?
>
> [image: Image result for bob weir mountain bike]
>
> Also, Biking with Bobby: 
> http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/weir_page_1.htm
>
> Let us know when you're in the bay if you want Diablo company.
>
> jim m
> wc, ca
>
>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Cockpit - Orig. Bosco - 54cm, Nitto Tallux - 10cm, Meisha's Cork grips, Dia Compe Knobs, Shimano Brake levers, VO braided cable housing, Newbaums - wrapped & twined

[jandrews_nyc]

Sorry for the bad photos first of all

This is a fun, unusual cockpit I built up with:

   - 10cm Tallux stem
   - Cro-mo Dullbrite Bosco 54cm handlebars
   - Shimano Mountain Brake levers
   - Meisha's Portugese Cork grips, *groved and punched for bar-end 
   shifters*
   - Dia-Compe Knobs on further down on the bar 
   - Blue Newbaums bar tape - twined off with hemp and one-coat amber 
   shellac
   - VO braided cable housing 

Three distinct hand-positions on this set up.

   1. Upright on the grips
   2. Hooked between thumb and index finger on the Dia Compe Knobs - Feels 
   somewhat similar to riding on the hoods of drop levers
   3. Aero position on the flat of the bar on either side of the stem clamp.


This is a big, wide set up..so I'm not sure about what shipping would be. 
 I'm in NYC so that would be the most ideal..but I can certainly box it and 
ship it..but it could be expensive.  Happy to discuss.
It's got some beusage but in great shape.

Looking for $130

Thanks

Jason















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[RBW] Re: FS: Cockpit - Orig. Bosco - 54cm, Nitto Tallux - 10cm, Meisha's Cork grips, Dia Compe Knobs, Shimano Brake levers, VO braided cable housing, Newbaums - wrapped & twined

[jandrews_nyc]

Sorry , it's not a Tallux...It's a Technomic standard..10cm  





On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:46:51 PM UTC-5, jandrews_nyc wrote:
>
> Sorry for the bad photos first of all
>
> This is a fun, unusual cockpit I built up with:
>
>- 10cm Tallux stem
>- Cro-mo Dullbrite Bosco 54cm handlebars
>- Shimano Mountain Brake levers
>- Meisha's Portugese Cork grips, *groved and punched for bar-end 
>shifters*
>- Dia-Compe Knobs on further down on the bar 
>- Blue Newbaums bar tape - twined off with hemp and one-coat amber 
>shellac
>- VO braided cable housing 
>
> Three distinct hand-positions on this set up.
>
>1. Upright on the grips
>2. Hooked between thumb and index finger on the Dia Compe Knobs - 
>Feels somewhat similar to riding on the hoods of drop levers
>3. Aero position on the flat of the bar on either side of the stem 
>clamp.
>
>
> This is a big, wide set up..so I'm not sure about what shipping would be. 
>  I'm in NYC so that would be the most ideal..but I can certainly box it and 
> ship it..but it could be expensive.  Happy to discuss.
> It's got some beusage but in great shape.
>
> Looking for $130
>
> Thanks
>
> Jason
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Tires! - 6 sets

[jandrews_nyc]

All of these pairs of tires have very low miles..., tons of life left in 
them.  Some are essentially unused. 

Prices are Shipping Included for the pairs

   1. 26" - Schwalbe Marathon - 26 x 1.75" - Black  - $30
   2. 700c - Schwalbe Little Big Ben - 700 x 38mm - Brown - $42
   3. 700c - Schwalbe Dureme - 700 x 50mm - Black - "Evolution Line - 
   Double Defense" - *Essentially unused* - $65
   4. Panaracer - Pasela Tourguard - 700 x 37mm - Black with Gumwall - 
   Kevlar - $37
   5. Panaracer - Pasela PT - 700 x 35mm - Black with Gumwall - *Essentially 
   unused* - $45
   6. SOMA C-Line - 700 x 38mm - Black with Gumwale - $40

Photos listed in order of the above list , with one of the branding on the 
side and one of the tread.
Let me know if you have any questions or if you think prices are off?
Jason



























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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Ryan Fleming]

Nice  problem  to haveso you're riding all the way? I'd take the 
Hilsen. If you are visiting Grant and Co you could probably borrow from 
them or a lister a Hunq like bike for Diablo...seems like the Hilsen will 
work 90% of the time

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 11:10:03 AM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>
> In June I'll be heading west from KC to combine my two great passions, 
> music and cycling. I'm seeing Dead and Company in Mountain View, CA, Salt 
> Lake City, and Boulder, CO. So, which Riv to take? I will definitely make 
> my first pilgrimage to Riv, and will have time for two days with shorter 
> windows (2-5 hrs) of riding and an all day explore ( probably Riv visit day 
> too.)  Then no real interest in anything more than sightseeing and 
> coffee/lunch in Salt Lake. I definitely want to stop in Moab on the way to 
> Boulder for a half day or so ride since My first time there was post-hip 
> replacement this past September so I could only look longingly... Then just 
> probably putzing around in Boulder since I'll need the recovery by then, 
> but who knows.  
>
> So, which bike? 1. The Hilsen, fendered, Berthoud h-bar bag, 38mm Compass 
> tires, my PBP tested, trusty steed for years. 2. The Hunq. No fenders, just 
> now getting dialed in, sort of, (with much thanks to Bill Lindsay for his 
> deep knowledge and help in troubleshooting), after 4 years of ownership and 
> not ridden much. Nit to Big rear rack, Smart Sams (but thinking about 
> Racing Ralph's or something else). 3. The Roadeo. Set up as my go fast. 
> 32mm Compass.
>
> All three bikes are great. I bought the Hunq with single track in mind, 
> and have used it for that some, but like I said, it needs fine tuned. I 
> ride 90% on the road but this might be a great time to get acquainted on 
> trails with the Hunqapillar. Oh, and I want to ride Mt. Diablo. 
>
> What's the consensus of the group?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: From the mouths of babes.

[Evan E.]

Marc: Awesome! There is hope. Thanks for posting.

I agree with Ian: the social acceptance of bicycles may well vary with 
region -- or even within a given zip code. I teach at a university and, 
years ago, I thought my students might think it was cool if I brought my 
bike helmet to class and set it on the lectern next to my briefcase or bag. 
But then I realized that most students don't ride, and that in their eyes, 
anyone over 23 who rides a bike for transportation is either impoverished 
or a total dork. Likely both. It doesn't matter if you ride a Magna or a 
Rivendell. Oh, well. I still ride to school. But I no longer carry my 
helmet into the classroom.

Evan

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[dougP]

I was going to suggest contacting Bobby Ace for a recommendation, but Jim 
beat me to it.  

dougP

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 9:48:24 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:
>
> How about an old Fisher?
>
> [image: Image result for bob weir mountain bike]
>
> Also, Biking with Bobby: 
> http://www.sonic.net/~ckelly/Seekay/weir_page_1.htm
>
> Let us know when you're in the bay if you want Diablo company.
>
> jim m
> wc, ca
>
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 9:10:03 AM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>
>> In June I'll be heading west from KC to combine my two great passions, 
>> music and cycling. I'm seeing Dead and Company in Mountain View, CA, Salt 
>> Lake City, and Boulder, CO. So, which Riv to take? I will definitely make 
>> my first pilgrimage to Riv, and will have time for two days with shorter 
>> windows (2-5 hrs) of riding and an all day explore ( probably Riv visit day 
>> too.)  Then no real interest in anything more than sightseeing and 
>> coffee/lunch in Salt Lake. I definitely want to stop in Moab on the way to 
>> Boulder for a half day or so ride since My first time there was post-hip 
>> replacement this past September so I could only look longingly... Then just 
>> probably putzing around in Boulder since I'll need the recovery by then, 
>> but who knows.  
>>
>> So, which bike? 1. The Hilsen, fendered, Berthoud h-bar bag, 38mm Compass 
>> tires, my PBP tested, trusty steed for years. 2. The Hunq. No fenders, just 
>> now getting dialed in, sort of, (with much thanks to Bill Lindsay for his 
>> deep knowledge and help in troubleshooting), after 4 years of ownership and 
>> not ridden much. Nit to Big rear rack, Smart Sams (but thinking about 
>> Racing Ralph's or something else). 3. The Roadeo. Set up as my go fast. 
>> 32mm Compass.
>>
>> All three bikes are great. I bought the Hunq with single track in mind, 
>> and have used it for that some, but like I said, it needs fine tuned. I 
>> ride 90% on the road but this might be a great time to get acquainted on 
>> trails with the Hunqapillar. Oh, and I want to ride Mt. Diablo. 
>>
>> What's the consensus of the group?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Valerie Yates]

I think this is a great opportunity to get to know one of your other bikes 
better. Both the Hunq and the Roadeo would be great fun in Boulder. We have 
so many options for different types of rides including mixed terrain 
pavement/dirt road/soft-surface trail routes.  I would maybe prioritize the 
Hunq if you are more interested in dirt and trails and the Roadeo if you 
are more interested in distance and/or climbing and then the Hunq again if 
you want climbing on dirt roads. Fenders are generally not necessary here 
or likely in Moab. 

Val in Boulder, CO


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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Jim M.]

To paraphrase Val, if you want to ride like fire on the mountains, take the 
Hunq. If you want to prevent goin' down the road feeling bad, take the 
Roadeo.

jim m
wc, ca

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 12:51:18 PM UTC-8, Valerie Yates wrote:
>
> I think this is a great opportunity to get to know one of your other bikes 
> better. Both the Hunq and the Roadeo would be great fun in Boulder. We have 
> so many options for different types of rides including mixed terrain 
> pavement/dirt road/soft-surface trail routes.  I would maybe prioritize the 
> Hunq if you are more interested in dirt and trails and the Roadeo if you 
> are more interested in distance and/or climbing and then the Hunq again if 
> you want climbing on dirt roads. Fenders are generally not necessary here 
> or likely in Moab. 
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
>
>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: F.S. 55cm Bleriot frame set

[David Johnston]

Dan, seems like that 55 would be the perfect fit for you, according to
the Bleriot brochure and my experience. Try to straddle the top tube
barefoot near the stem, it should be quite snug there. Then with shoes
on and standing over the middle you have a nice inch of clearance or
so.

Typical rider height (inches), PBH, SH, Bleriot size
65 to 68, 79.5 to 82, 69.5 to 72, 55

On 1/30/17, Danno  wrote:
> I'm a little late on this but wanted to add my two cents.
>
> I have a PBH of around 81 (haven't measured it exactly in a while) and have
>
> a 55 cm Bleriot.  I have found it to be on the small side for me.
> Remember, Riv frames are center to TOP unlike many other standard frame
> measurements of center to center, which I usually take at 55 cm also.  Add
> in that it is 650b size tires and I have the feeling that it is too small
> for me when I ride it, compared to standard c-c frames with 700c wheels.
>
> I need to get the dust off of it and take some pictures so I can post it
> for sale here.
>
> Dan
> Richmond, VA
>
> On Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 1:40:03 PM UTC-5, Derek Lawrence wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have impressions of sizing on the Bleriot? I have PBH of 81.3. It
>> looks like 55 may be a bit big.
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[John G.]

Hey folks,

The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?

Thanks,
John

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Belopsky]

Nope. It is 27.2. Every seatpost I've ever had was a tight fit and comes 
out scratched.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:26:19 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

NO

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 30, 2017, at 4:26 PM, John G. 
mailto:jpgu...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hey folks,

The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost Nitto 
S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does this jive 
with what you have on your Atlantis?

Thanks,
John

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[sameness]

Ask them to ream it to 27.2. If they give you a puzzled look in response, 
ask another shop.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: F.S. 55cm Bleriot frame set

[John Hawrylak]

Dave

Would you say the Bleriot "planned"?I would not think so due to the OS 
tubing, even in 0.8/0.5/0.8mm wall thicknesses.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 1:44:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote:

> I made a concerted attempt to ride ever bike I owned last year and my 
> favorite of all was the Bleriot! Yes I have more expensive and  "nicer" 
> bikes made in Japan and America, but the Bleriot always put a bigger smile 
> on my face.
>
> PBH 83, SH 72.5, Bleriot = 57cm
> 38mm Pari-Motos (I never felt comfortable with the spacing to put fenders 
> on 42s)
>
> PS all the other bikes were a blast too!
>
> -Dave
>

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE: Nitto ChocoMoose, Ruthworks lightweight Handlebar bag Crust Stem, Crust Leather Bar, etc

[adam leibow]

Crust leather bar & stem combo is sold. 

On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 10:20:08 AM UTC-8, adam leibow wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I've got some great stuff for sale. 
>
> 1. Nitto Choco Bullmoose Bar/stem combo - $120
> 2. Ruthworks Lightweight Handlebar "Brevet" Bag, black camo Xpac - $80 
> 3. Crust Bikes Leather Bar, 666mm Wide drop bar & 6cm Nitto Technomic 
> combo (you want a short stem mated to these bars to accommodate for reach. 
> However if you don't want the stem I'll separate it. - $90
> 4. Rivendell / Nitto HiRiser Upright Threadless stem - $50
> 5. Nitto M18 Front Rack & Small Wald Basket - $90
> 6. Crust Bikes Fillet Brazed Stem, 100mm - $85
>
> These prices are for local pickup in San Francisco. I much prefer local 
> pickup but if you really want something I'll ship at your/buyer expense. 
> I'll probably have a hard time finding a box for the larger items so give 
> me a few extra days on those items please. 
>
> Everything is new or close to new and pictures aren't really required; 
> there might be a tiny scratch or imperfection here or there, or grease here 
> or there, but nothing even worth photographing. If you want pictures, 
> please text me @ 3 1 0 9 6 3 6 nine five nine. 
>
> Thanks for looking!!
>
> Adam
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Steve Palincsar]

But definitely not 27.2 inches.  Even sewer pipes are only 4 inches.


On 01/30/2017 04:57 PM, sameness wrote:
Ask them to ream it to 27.2. If they give you a puzzled look in 
response, ask another shop.


Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:

Hey folks,

The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2
seatpost Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a*27
inch seatpost.* Does this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?




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Re: [RBW] From the mouths of babes.

[Patrick Moore]

Interesting.

Surprisingly one of them said it was safer (most people assume that cars
are safer, but this little whipper snapper knew the truth).  I applauded
and told them I was 10 times less likely to be injured on my bike than in a
car according to studies by the CPSC and NTSB.

Can you give any reasons why this might be so? I have read in several
places that riding a bike is about as safe as riding in a car per unit
time, and that you are about 2X as likely to be injured or killed per unit
distance traveled as when in a car. I'd prefer the other statistic if I
could believe it.

On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Marc Irwin  wrote:

> People reading my blog really seem to like this so I thought I would share
> it here.
>
> http://simplecycle-marc.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-mouths-of-babes.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Extension bar for the German Mirror?

[Daniel Betancourt]

You called that one. No it didn't fit and I'll be biking to the UPS store 
to drop off the return. I went ahead and just ordered the  Cycle Star 80 - 
903 Part # B&M903 from Peter White Cycles. Thanks for the tip!!

Dan

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 10:47:14 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Hmm, I've never seen that one before.  I'm not sure about the mirror 
> shape, but the hardware looks sturdy.  It looks like it only fits MTB bars 
> (22.2 mm diameter).
>
> Best of luck,
> Tim
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Daniel Betancourt  > wrote:
>
>> Tim,
>>
>> Thanks for the feedback. I ended up ordering the bike mirror below from 
>> Amazon that arrives today. I like that Cycle Star 80 - 903 Part # B&M903 
>> mirror and would have ordered that if I saw it earlier. If the one I 
>> ordered from Amazon doesn't fly, I'll be ordering it.
>>
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B011NJ59Q6/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dan
>>
>> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 10:31:40 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> I prefer a different German mirror, the Busch & Muller Cyclestar.  
>>>
>>> They're much more durable than Riv's German mirror (I've broken three of 
>>> those), and they have a glass mirror surface that doesn't scratch as 
>>> easily.  The hardware is mostly metal instead of plastic.
>>>
>>> http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/mirrors.php
>>> https://www.bike-discount.de/en/shop/mirrors-58/brand-busch_%2B_mueller
>>>
>>> They have two sizes of mirror: 
>>> 901 models are 55 mm (2")
>>> 903 models are 81 mm (3")
>>> And 4 mount variants: 
>>> 901, 903 have a long curved bar
>>> 901/1, 903/1 have a short, straight bar
>>> 901/2, 903/2 have just a bar-end mount
>>> 901/3, 903/3 have a short, curved bar
>>>
>>> Except the 901/2 and 903/2, they all include both bar-end and band-clamp 
>>> base mounts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 Panog: That's a very good point. The mirror shakes some as is, so a 
 longer arm could be a problem.

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Bill Lindsay]

My Atlantis took a 27.2 seatpost

When you say "your Atlantis"... do you mean:

A.  Your brand new Atlantis frameset, straight from Rivendell Bicycle Works?
B.  Your old Atlantis, that you had built before, but are having rebuilt 
after a repaint or something?
C.  Your old/new Atlantis, purchased second-hand as a frameset from 
somebody else?  

If A, call Riv.  If B, tell them your post used to fit and see if it makes 
sense that your painter didn't mask that area.  If C, consider the 
possibility that the previous owner didn't use a 27.2 seatpost and squished 
the seatlug to the wrong diameter.  If I was looking at it I would look at 
the slot in the back of the seatlug.  It should be absolutely perfectly 
parallel.  If the slot is squished in due to a rough previous existence, a 
combination of bending it back out and reaming it back out should fix 
things.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[John G.]

I have a huge rear end. Definitely need a 27 inch seatpost.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:12:56 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> But definitely not 27.2 inches.  Even sewer pipes are only 4 inches.
>
> On 01/30/2017 04:57 PM, sameness wrote:
>
> Ask them to ream it to 27.2. If they give you a puzzled look in response, 
> ask another shop.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote: 
>>
>> Hey folks, 
>>
>> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
>> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a* 27 inch seatpost.* 
>> Does this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>>
>>
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[John G.]

Option A. I'll call Riv.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:25:37 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My Atlantis took a 27.2 seatpost
>
> When you say "your Atlantis"... do you mean:
>
> A.  Your brand new Atlantis frameset, straight from Rivendell Bicycle 
> Works?
> B.  Your old Atlantis, that you had built before, but are having rebuilt 
> after a repaint or something?
> C.  Your old/new Atlantis, purchased second-hand as a frameset from 
> somebody else?  
>
> If A, call Riv.  If B, tell them your post used to fit and see if it makes 
> sense that your painter didn't mask that area.  If C, consider the 
> possibility that the previous owner didn't use a 27.2 seatpost and squished 
> the seatlug to the wrong diameter.  If I was looking at it I would look at 
> the slot in the back of the seatlug.  It should be absolutely perfectly 
> parallel.  If the slot is squished in due to a rough previous existence, a 
> combination of bending it back out and reaming it back out should fix 
> things.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>>
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
>> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
>> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Belopsky]

Also have they measured the actual seatpost? 

Also have you ever installed your own seatpost? One person's tight is 
another's just right

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:34:45 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> Option A. I'll call Riv.
>
> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:25:37 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> My Atlantis took a 27.2 seatpost
>>
>> When you say "your Atlantis"... do you mean:
>>
>> A.  Your brand new Atlantis frameset, straight from Rivendell Bicycle 
>> Works?
>> B.  Your old Atlantis, that you had built before, but are having rebuilt 
>> after a repaint or something?
>> C.  Your old/new Atlantis, purchased second-hand as a frameset from 
>> somebody else?  
>>
>> If A, call Riv.  If B, tell them your post used to fit and see if it 
>> makes sense that your painter didn't mask that area.  If C, consider the 
>> possibility that the previous owner didn't use a 27.2 seatpost and squished 
>> the seatlug to the wrong diameter.  If I was looking at it I would look at 
>> the slot in the back of the seatlug.  It should be absolutely perfectly 
>> parallel.  If the slot is squished in due to a rough previous existence, a 
>> combination of bending it back out and reaming it back out should fix 
>> things.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey folks,
>>>
>>> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
>>> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
>>> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> John
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Matt B.]

Sometimes something as simple as a burr on the inside edge of the seat tube 
can make a seat post feel too snug, in which case a round bastard file will 
take care of it in a few seconds.   If you get the bike back feel inside 
the seat tube with your fingers.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 4:26:19 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2 seatpost 
> Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending a 27 inch seatpost. Does 
> this jive with what you have on your Atlantis?
>
> Thanks,
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

[Steve Palincsar]

Post, or pillar?


On 01/30/2017 05:34 PM, John G. wrote:

I have a huge rear end. Definitely need a 27 inch seatpost.

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 5:12:56 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:

But definitely not 27.2 inches.  Even sewer pipes are only 4 inches.


On 01/30/2017 04:57 PM, sameness wrote:

Ask them to ream it to 27.2. If they give you a puzzled look in
response, ask another shop.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:26:19 PM UTC-8, John G. wrote:

Hey folks,

The shop building up my Atlantis has informed me that my 27.2
seatpost Nitto S83 is a tad too tight. They're recommending
a*27 inch seatpost.* Does this jive with what you have on
your Atlantis?




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Re: [RBW] From the mouths of babes.

[islaysteve]

Great post, thanks for sharing it with us!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv parts, big apple tires, and rear tubus rack

[Jeffrey B]

Thumbies sold. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seatpost size for Atlantis?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

John, I would go back to Bill's excellent questions because, in a private email 
back and forth, he helped me solve the exact same issue with my Hunqapillar. If 
the Atlantis could have ever had a slightly smaller seat post installed and 
then the bolt tightened, the correct size will not fit. That was the issue with 
my Hunq. And he is right, it can be fixed fairly easily. If you bought it new, 
then yes, call Riv. Grant explained to me that sometimes a cheaper seat post 
will not have the exact right diameter that it is advertised at. I would doubt 
that's the case with the Nitto S83, but you could put some calipers to it just 
to be sure. After Bill did some 'splaining to me, I came to understand that the 
chances of the seat tube being the incorrect diameter are very small, so my 
guess is his paint theory, the burr theory or the overtightened theory. 
Definitely not the grassy knoll theory, though.

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[RBW] Re: Online store for front light mount options

[Ron Mc]

Andy is great, ships quickly.  He also consistently discounts Paul 
Components

On Sunday, January 29, 2017 at 5:22:51 AM UTC-6, Daniel Betancourt wrote:
>
> I normally bike during the work week in the dark early morning hours and 
> have been looking for a way to mount my LED light to my front rack or fork. 
> I found the following online store and ordered the two parts below to try 
> out. I'll make sure to post an update once they arrive.
>
> https://www.modernbike.com/light-mounts-and-brackets
>
> Problem Solvers Front Rack Light Mount Black
> Problem Solvers Quick Release Light Mount
>
> Dan
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ryan asked if I was riding all the way. No, it would be nice but the concerts 
are the main reason for the trip and they're too far apart to ride, even at 
brevet pace. Valerie, you're thinking like I am. This might be a really great 
chance to get really familiar with the Hunqapillar. Those rides in the hills on 
the Riv site look absolutely sublime. On the other hand, Diablo calls for a 
road-ish bike, I think? I can carry two bikes on my Saris rack. Maybe the Hunq 
and the Roadeo. You never see a golfer with just one club in his bag do you? 
Hm... And Jim, I'd love company on Diablo if I won't slow you down. Maybe 
an Easy Wind will blow us along the Big River and we'll run into a Friend of 
the Devil...

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Front Racks and Baskets for All-Rounders/Atlantis/etc?

[Adama]

I added a large Wald to my Nitto mini front rack about 3 months ago, and 
added struts for reinforcement.  Commuting most days.  The setup 
 accommodates a work bag + locks + various rain 
gear.  Or alternately, a gym bag and some groceries, secured 
 with a cargo net.  Wheel flop does not spoil the 
ride, but it's expected that even a kickstand may not keep it from toppling 
over if loaded and not leaned up well...even with one of those wheel 
stabilizers I've tried, derp.  Having always had a back rack + fussy 
panniers, I appreciate how little time it takes to pull gear out of the 
basket compared to bags, making errands zippier.  I have yet to do any 
basket touring, which seems like it would be hard.



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>
> Hello, looking to add a Wald basket for my AR.  Anyone have any good 
> suggestions?  I am more of a slow rider that likes toting six packs and 
> baguettes than goo kind of guy.
> Cheers
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[RBW] Re: F.S. 55cm Bleriot frame set

[rob markwardt]

I've had my Bleriot for 10 years now and I doubt if it planes (it does have 
a nice biplane though).  It's more of a comfy do it all cruiser IMO and I 
find that I ride it more and more every year...especially during the rainy 
winter months.  I took it out on a nice 30 mile jaunt yesterday on local 
trails including about half that on dirt/gravel.  Long dirt roads are where 
it really shines.  I need to do  a ten year review but here are a couple 
pics from yesterday and the rest of my flickr with many other recent 
Bleriot pics. 

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/

Rob Markwardt
Seattle WA 



On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 1:57:00 PM UTC-8, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Dave
>
> Would you say the Bleriot "planned"?I would not think so due to the OS 
> tubing, even in 0.8/0.5/0.8mm wall thicknesses.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Friday, January 27, 2017 at 1:44:29 PM UTC-5, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
>> I made a concerted attempt to ride ever bike I owned last year and my 
>> favorite of all was the Bleriot! Yes I have more expensive and  "nicer" 
>> bikes made in Japan and America, but the Bleriot always put a bigger smile 
>> on my face.
>>
>> PBH 83, SH 72.5, Bleriot = 57cm
>> 38mm Pari-Motos (I never felt comfortable with the spacing to put fenders 
>> on 42s)
>>
>> PS all the other bikes were a blast too!
>>
>> -Dave
>>
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[RBW] FS: Clearing Out my Parts Collection

[Keith Muller]

Technomic Stem and Noodle bars have sold

Keith

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Jim M.]

The hills on the Riv site are mostly around Diablo and provide good trail 
riding. If you want to go all the way to the top, it's easier to take the 
paved road, or trails part way and paved part way. 

On the trails you can see coyotes but not a dire wolf. Don't worry about 
slowing me down. I have more than a touch of grey and my riding mantra is 
to not fade away. After we introduce you to more locals, you can say I know 
you rider.  

jim m
wc ca

On Monday, January 30, 2017 at 6:51:45 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> Ryan asked if I was riding all the way. No, it would be nice but the 
> concerts are the main reason for the trip and they're too far apart to 
> ride, even at brevet pace. Valerie, you're thinking like I am. This might 
> be a really great chance to get really familiar with the Hunqapillar. Those 
> rides in the hills on the Riv site look absolutely sublime. On the other 
> hand, Diablo calls for a road-ish bike, I think? I can carry two bikes on 
> my Saris rack. Maybe the Hunq and the Roadeo. You never see a golfer with 
> just one club in his bag do you? Hm... And Jim, I'd love company on 
> Diablo if I won't slow you down. Maybe an Easy Wind will blow us along the 
> Big River and we'll run into a Friend of the Devil...

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[RBW] Re: Which bike for hippie music?

[Ray Varella]

Tim,
   I grew up at the base of Mt Diablo and have ridden just about every road and 
trail in that county. 
I don't have a Rodeo but my road bike is pretty similar, i run 35mm tires on it 
and I would ride most of the fire trails in the Diablo environs on it. 

Moab is a bit different, I would definitely want fatter tires for a lot of that 
terrain. 
It just depends on what sort of trails you plan to ride. 

One question no one has asked. 
You are traveling with a bike and going to concerts. 
What is your security plan for your bike?

The bike I would choose for the trip would be the one I could either replace 
the easiest or would pain me the least to lose. 

Ray
Vallejo CA

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[RBW] S24o Kit Evaluation

[Justin August]

Doing the s24o thing this year. I'm wondering about my kit and what I'm missing 
or taking extra. 

- Grand Trunk Ultralight Hammock
- Marmot Sawtooth (good to 15F)
- Caldera Cone with Fosters Keg
- GSI Soloist
- Helix Dripper
- Cheap camp mug
- Kleen Kanteen hot thermos
- KK Insulated Cold (on the bike)
- Water Bottle Squeezable
- Nalgene 32oz
- Ibex Woolies 2 3/4 tights & 1 long johns
- Darn tough socks for camp
- 2-3 upper layers (wool, polartec)
- Patagonia Nanopuff jacket
- Wool beanie
- Birkenstock clogs for camp
- Various on bike top layers

My questions are:
Will I freeze without a thermarest or similar pad in my hammock?
Rain fly?
I'm thinking of bring ramen, salami, cheese, baguette and bars/peanut butter. 

I have it all except food crammed into my Carradice & Fromt Basket. I have a 
Tubus Tara and Ortliebs to use if need be. 

Any advice for a first timer?

-Justin

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