Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Oh...A DahonNever mindI see your point. You have me wondering how my local Safeway would take to me using my Atlantis as a grocery cartSure would be simpler. No locking up the bike, getting a cart, forgetting my reusable bags, wiping off the slimy cart handle with handi wipes that are always dry, putting the groceries in the cart, unloading, scanning and plastic bagging them while getting dirty looks, recarting them, wheeling the cart out then block the sidewalk with my cart (more dirty looks), while I unload the shopping basket into the panniers, front basket and rear rack bag, then go to move my bike and realize its still locked to the rack (every time ). I like your way, way better.. Way. Load, scan, load. Done.Brilliant! ClaytonDDD Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad On Saturday, November 3, 2018, 4:13 PM, Patrick Moore wrote: I entirely agree; the best stand for heavy rear loads, even rather assymetrical ones, was a $18 Greenfield dropout mount one. Problem is, this is a Dahon folder, and if you clutter up the left rear dropout area with one of those stands, it interferes with folding. I think I will remove the bb-mount stand and re-install my VO front wheel stabilizer; at least with that I can lean the bike up against shelves (I wheel the Dahon into the store as my grocery cart) and have it stay up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
It was whatever Rivendell installed when they built it; probably a Pletscher. It gets pretty windy here in Iowa, and I've learned to lay my bikes on the ground instead of using kickstands or leaning them against objects. Our Powderkeg sounds like scaffolding falling over when a big gust of wind catches it. I haven't had a chance to ride the San Marcos since paring it down to 24.5# because our bike paths have been under water for the past month. I'm picking up a custom Guitar Ted-built wheelset of Velocity Quills for my Atlantis on Monday that should knock off considerable weight when I set it up tubeless next Spring. On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 2:50:19 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: > > 26.5 lb is not bad at all for such a build. My custom 26" wheel fixie, > with dynamo lighting, fenders, racks, is probably 1 1/2 lb lighter, and > that's with a Dingle fixed drivetrain in place of a 3X9. > > * I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike falling over all > of the time.* > > Now that is interesting, since stands are meant precisely to keep the bike > from falling over. What sort of kickstand, and why did it fall over? I am > ready to remove the bb-area stand from my Hon Solo, because when you have > even a bit more weight in the left-side pannier than the right, the stand > will not hold the bike up, as I discovered yet once again today at the > grocery store. > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:29 PM 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch < > rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote: > >> I tore the bike down to the frame for a thorough cleaning and a Frame >> Saver treatment. I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike >> falling over all of the time. I then swapped the Sugino triple and >> Microshift FD for an IRD Lobo 46/30 with a Shimano CX-70 FD, and replaced >> the Noodle with a 46 cm Soba bar that was on my Atlantis. It now weighs >> 24.5 lbs. without the pump and seat bag. >> >> Soma San Marcos >> 59 >> 26.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag >> Sugino triple crankset >> 9-speed >> Tektro side-pull brakes >> Cane Creek levers >> Shimano bar-ends >> Selle Anatomico Titantico-X >> Noodle bars >> Nitto stem >> Nitto seatpost >> Shimano XT spd pedals >> Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke >> Shimano 105 hubs >> Jack Brown Blue >> King SS bottle cages >> bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Toshi pointed out that I’ve got a fast Leo Roadini. It’s true that I do. I posted my best time ever for a 200k today on my Leo Roadini. I like my Leo very much. I’ll post a separate ride report. Bike reviews and ride reports tell you more about the person than they do about the bike. OMO Bill Lindsay #6551 El Cerrito Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
I entirely agree; the best stand for heavy rear loads, even rather assymetrical ones, was a $18 Greenfield dropout mount one. Problem is, this is a Dahon folder, and if you clutter up the left rear dropout area with one of those stands, it interferes with folding. I think I will remove the bb-mount stand and re-install my VO front wheel stabilizer; at least with that I can lean the bike up against shelves (I wheel the Dahon into the store as my grocery cart) and have it stay up. On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 4:28 PM 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > My bike falling over is extremely annoying, especially when something gets > broken or scratched. I cannot begin to gush how much better a rear triangle > mounted, Greenfield kickstand works, versus a chain stay mount. I just > cannotI will not use a chain stay mount. I’d rather go without. Now > that being said, I love my rear mount and wouldn’t think of taking it off. > I’m in and out of my rack bag all the time and it does not fall over. When > loading my groceries, I fill the rear left with some weight before loading > the other bags. It never falls over. > Esthetics(?) be damned. As with all kickstands, go light with the torque > wrench when installingWAY more stable with loaded panniers than a > bottom bracket install. > > Crap, I gushed. > > Clayton > DDD > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
My bike falling over is extremely annoying, especially when something gets broken or scratched. I cannot begin to gush how much better a rear triangle mounted, Greenfield kickstand works, versus a chain stay mount. I just cannotI will not use a chain stay mount. I’d rather go without. Now that being said, I love my rear mount and wouldn’t think of taking it off. I’m in and out of my rack bag all the time and it does not fall over. When loading my groceries, I fill the rear left with some weight before loading the other bags. It never falls over. Esthetics(?) be damned. As with all kickstands, go light with the torque wrench when installingWAY more stable with loaded panniers than a bottom bracket install. Crap, I gushed. Clayton DDD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
I'm trying to distinguish frame flex from faster riding. For me, I'm not sure that a Roadeo and Roadini built to the same weight would ride any faster. Of course, I feel a dramatic difference when I go from my 35 lb racked and bagged up Hilsen to my 22 lb Roadeo, but I doubt that much of that is due to the tubing. Would a similarly built up Ram and Roadeo feel different? Yes, I think the Roadeo would feel faster because it handles faster. I don't know if it would go any faster, but maybe once you get the feel for the livelier-handling Roadeo other bikes would feel slow. I don't know if that has anything to do with the tubing, but that's hard to tell. As far as frame flex/planing goes I don't notice any on my bikes--maybe a little on the Roadeo when I'm mashing up hills out of the saddle, but not convincingly noticeable--only on my heavily loaded AHH did I feel a consistent spring from the frame flex... I know that Bill built up his Roadini and it feels fast and he goes fast on it. I guess he might be a good person to comment on the tubing because he has a lightish Roadini and a light Legolas... Toshi Toshi On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 11:48 AM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > I am 147lbs and 5'8" > For me a noticeable diff between Bleriot/Sam, then a step up in ease of > pedalling to Ram, then a dramatic step up to Roadeo. I can also confirm the > diffs in mph and cog diffs in familiar terrain. Higher toothcounts front > and back on Roadeo and getting up hills easier than with the other bikes. > Though I am not obsessed with speed, but want a bike that moves easily as > I pedal along and doesn't bog down on hills and make me feel like I am > fighting the bike. > > I am guessing the diff is in frame tubing because the Roadeo is definitely > the more efficient bike, even with very similar Rivish build. Maybe > chainstay length, too. > > Toshi is about same size as me and we ride same frame sizes. > Perhaps our diffs are in fit measurements. > Also, Toshi is a power Randonneur, so he can probably blast any bike down > the road with ease. > Where I am a weak rider and maybe can feel the diffs. > I remember that BQ stated the most dramatic diffs felt in their tires are > felt by weak/slow riders. Maybe the same for tubing diffs. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
"Fiddlin’ is fun but expensive and exhausting."but also absorbing and consuming, in a good way. If not actually riding, it's a pretty good way to to occupy one's time, especially when the weather doesn't cooperate. As far as cost, there are far more expensive hobbies/avocations (I've been there...). Even skiing or golf are probably more expensive if you include green fees/lift tickets and travel time. At least that's what I tell my wife. On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 12:26:55 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Fiddlin’ is fun but expensive and exhausting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
Right you are Jack. Vicariously buying and selling Rivs courtesy of Mr. Bernard. Best, Rich in ATL Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 3, 2018, at 3:26 PM, Lum Gim Fong wrote: > > Fiddlin’ is fun but expensive and exhausting. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ttQ69b3O6p8/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
26.5 lb is not bad at all for such a build. My custom 26" wheel fixie, with dynamo lighting, fenders, racks, is probably 1 1/2 lb lighter, and that's with a Dingle fixed drivetrain in place of a 3X9. * I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike falling over all of the time.* Now that is interesting, since stands are meant precisely to keep the bike from falling over. What sort of kickstand, and why did it fall over? I am ready to remove the bb-area stand from my Hon Solo, because when you have even a bit more weight in the left-side pannier than the right, the stand will not hold the bike up, as I discovered yet once again today at the grocery store. On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:29 PM 'Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch < rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I tore the bike down to the frame for a thorough cleaning and a Frame > Saver treatment. I removed the kickstand because I was tired of the bike > falling over all of the time. I then swapped the Sugino triple and > Microshift FD for an IRD Lobo 46/30 with a Shimano CX-70 FD, and replaced > the Noodle with a 46 cm Soba bar that was on my Atlantis. It now weighs > 24.5 lbs. without the pump and seat bag. > > Soma San Marcos > 59 > 26.5# with kickstand, frame pump, and Brand V seat bag > Sugino triple crankset > 9-speed > Tektro side-pull brakes > Cane Creek levers > Shimano bar-ends > Selle Anatomico Titantico-X > Noodle bars > Nitto stem > Nitto seatpost > Shimano XT spd pedals > Velocity Synergy rims 32-spoke > Shimano 105 hubs > Jack Brown Blue > King SS bottle cages > bell, Garmin mount, and Newbaum's cloth tape > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
Yes, my fiddlin'-to-riding ratio is absurd to the point of indefensible. I had a long chat with the fellow I bought the Seven from who's in the same boat; he said he thinks us bikey folks go through phases of being into it for the bikes and the mechanics of them, then sway back to using focusing on the getting out and the pedaling and the looking around at the world. I went on a nice long ride on the Seven the other day and realized I need a lot more of the latter in my life. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
As an extension of this thread, a related question: what is our list's
lightest Rivendell? Be sure to describe build (fixed, 1XN, 3XN) and size
(48 or 64).
My 1999 Joe Starck gofast fixie custom, 26" wheels, weighs 18.1 lb with all
bolt-on parts but no strap on or slip in parts, a disappointing increase of
0.3 0.-- 04 lb after I weighed it on an expensive digital scale instead of
an apparently less accurate spring scale. Afterward, I could feel the added
weight slowing me down. Actually, it was probably the added flipside Dingle
and the second Iris cage that bumped up the weight.
But seriously, though it has a (gasp!) titanium spindle in the Phil 113 mm
bb assembly, and a (even more gasp!) titanium stem binder bolt, it also has
2X Phil hubs, no lightweights, and 360 gram/pr Dura Ace 7410 SPD pedals
(replacing the ti-spindled, magnesium bodied spds that weighed about 240
grams the pair. *And* in addition to the lightweight 15 t Surly track cog
on side A, it has a 17/19 Dingle on side B, which adds a good 100 grams.
("Speeds" are 76", 67", and a stump-pulling 60".) The rest of the build
bits were chosen for a best-mix of strength + weight + comfort and + style
(I admit it): Pro 5 Vis 46t single, 7410 seatpost, Nitto Tech Deluxe stem,
quill amputated (in the absence of a Pearl; the TD has much the same finish
as the later Pearls); A9 headset, original issue Flite, Iris cages, 7410
brake levers, left with lever proper removed, right pulling (IIRC; logo
long gone) Suntour S Pro caliper. Sun M14A 559 rims, Schwalbe lightweight
26" tubes, Compass Elk Pass tires, Lezyne bar tape, thinner model.
What prompted my question was stumbling via Bike Radar onto a YouTube of
the 2018 National Hill Climb Championships in England, where one
participant, a scrawny 20-something, said his fixed gear entry weighed 5.41
kilos (11.9 lbs). I realize that no Rivendell on this earth will get close
to that, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone got a medium-sized Roadeo
below 18.1, multiple gears, rear brake, and all. So, speak up, please.
Back to the present thread: over 20 years, this bike surprises me each time
I get back on it after riding others with its ease of pedaling -- it
"wants" me to pedal in a higher gear (76" versus the usual ~70"), and it is
easier to get up to speed in that higher gear as well as to maintain it on
the flats. It also climbs easier, even with the higher gear. It's
noticeably easier to pedal than the almost identical 2003 Curt, which of
course is built with fenders, lights, racks. That said, when Chauncey
Matthews hoisted the frameset to take it back to his workshop for
modifications last summer, he shrugged and said, "Not so light."
Hill Climb Championships: Does anyone know the typical slopes and
distances? And what gears the winners typically use? I couldn't find any of
this in googleworld.
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[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot
52 Sam might be good too. I am 82PBH/5’8” and TT was a little too long for me with drops and Albas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
Fiddlin’ is fun but expensive and exhausting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
I think Boulder Bikes won’t recommend 6/4/6 skinny tubes over certain rider weight either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
It's an expensive hobby, Jack, so I'm out! Until that Gus Boots bike goes on pre-order, or I send Mike a deposit on an ANT Truss Bike, or... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Interesting discussion as usual. I eeigh163 lbs and I sometimes wonder if my 61cm Roadeo is more stout than ideal. That sounds silly given that it's Riv's lightest bike, but it has to be able to withstand 250 lbs of rider weight. In the custom frame section of the Riv website, there's an explanation of how a stock frame has to be built to safely support the heaviest rider any participle size might have riding it. It explains that a custom allows taking advantage of a rider's weight, particularly if they are lightweight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot
Thanks for all the responses. And thanks to a number of very nice offers, I've been able to find a great 51 App frame that will work really well. To chime in on the sizing issue, my friend is not a fan of close top tubes and since she is in the upper PBH range for the App I think it will be perfect for her. I agree with Joe's comment that the smaller frame's shorter top tube would be beneficial as well. I think that a 55 Sam might have worked too, but no Sam's materialized. On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 9:14:44 AM UTC-4, C Sharp wrote: > > FWIW, I’m a guy with an 82 PBH (stubby legs, long torso) and I have a 55cm > 2009 Sam. I believe the TT for that model year was something like 57 or > 57.5 (don’t feel like looking it up). The bike definitely fits and is a joy > to ride, but it does feel a bit long for me. Just saying a 55 might be > worth a try, esp. if she’s going to set it up with upright bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
I am 147lbs and 5'8" For me a noticeable diff between Bleriot/Sam, then a step up in ease of pedalling to Ram, then a dramatic step up to Roadeo. I can also confirm the diffs in mph and cog diffs in familiar terrain. Higher toothcounts front and back on Roadeo and getting up hills easier than with the other bikes. Though I am not obsessed with speed, but want a bike that moves easily as I pedal along and doesn't bog down on hills and make me feel like I am fighting the bike. I am guessing the diff is in frame tubing because the Roadeo is definitely the more efficient bike, even with very similar Rivish build. Maybe chainstay length, too. Toshi is about same size as me and we ride same frame sizes. Perhaps our diffs are in fit measurements. Also, Toshi is a power Randonneur, so he can probably blast any bike down the road with ease. Where I am a weak rider and maybe can feel the diffs. I remember that BQ stated the most dramatic diffs felt in their tires are felt by weak/slow riders. Maybe the same for tubing diffs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
I'd prefer that you keep "buying/fiddling with/selling bikes" because it's very entertaining to us'all :) On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 10:27:14 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: > > Hehe, I'd love to snag a Roadeo if I stumbled on a good "it's the dead of > winter" deal, but realistically the Seven covers all the 'go-fast bike' > riding I'll ever do. > > The plan right now is to stop buying/fiddling with/selling bikes and > actually RIDE the ones I have more. There's a thought, eh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
Hehe, I'd love to snag a Roadeo if I stumbled on a good "it's the dead of winter" deal, but realistically the Seven covers all the 'go-fast bike' riding I'll ever do. The plan right now is to stop buying/fiddling with/selling bikes and actually RIDE the ones I have more. There's a thought, eh? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Got it; the 57 is what I'd want; at least, I think so: are the sizes listed measured center to center? If c-t, the 57 would be a 56 c-c and slightly too small, though with the sloping tt I could probably get it to fit. I do want a 56 to 57 cm top tube; 58.2 is too long, or at least so far less than optimum that I'd choose something else. (In fact, the best fitting flat-top-tube bike I've owned was 60 c-c X about 56.) Getting back to Lum's experience (Lum: what is you real name again?) that the Roadeo rides faster and easier than the Ram: I was thinking about this, and I doubt it's a couple of lbs of weight. Some of the sprightliest bikes, or at least, those that most encourage me to pedal faster -- my metric is that I tend to use a 1-tooth smaller cog in back while cruising on the flat -- that I've owned have been tanks; that Herse; the Matthews; an ancient long-stayed Raleigh Technium, heavy tho' made largely from narrow tubed aluminum; and ancient Schwin Tempo made from heavy Tenax tubing. Wheels play a part, and so do tires, but IME there isn't a direct correspondence; the Tempo had dog tires; the Herse used the tires I scavenged from a much lighter (standard diameter 531 throughout) Motobecane and just felt faster. Note: this comparison is wrt flatland cruising; other factors may interfere with the feel of the bike while climbing; the Matthews is fast on the flats, but feels much more ponderous on hills; of course, even 430 gram rims and 450 gram tires with such a large diameter make a considerably effectively heavier wheel than very light rims and light, narrow tires. On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:56 AM Paul G wrote: > 58 cm happens to be between the two Roadeo sizes where the tubing gauge > changes. The 57 and below use the lighter gauge and 59+ are stouter, more > like a Ram and Hilsen. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique ** ** *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
I'm no lightweight at ~150, but none of the Rivs I've owned have flexed for me except the A Homer Hilsen loaded with about 30 lbs of groceries (54 cm frame). This includes the Roadeo/Ram/AHH/Cheviot/Custom. Toshi On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 9:43 AM Lum Gim Fong wrote: > Probly but i think Its not the weight. Its the flex. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Probly but i think Its not the weight. Its the flex. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] PSA: 59CM Green Custom/Long-Low
I liked the description so much, I read some other ads from the same seller. He has an “Infamous Style” himself. Philip Santa Rosa, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
Woudn’t the weight difference between a Roadini and Roadeo frame built the same be about 1-2 lbs? I would assume it is not just the weight but the flex of the frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread
58 cm happens to be between the two Roadeo sizes where the tubing gauge changes. The 57 and below use the lighter gauge and 59+ are stouter, more like a Ram and Hilsen. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Handlebars: Albastache, 46cm Noodle, MAP/Ahearne Setup
Albastache bars are sold. 46cm Noodles and the MAP/Ahearne setup still available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 60cm blue Rambouillet, nearly complete
I had posted this a few weeks ago here. Below are the specs again, but I am dropping the asking price to $1500 and am open to reasonable offers. Thanks. -- Forrest (Iowa City) I am the second owner; have had it under 2 years. $1500, buyer pays actual shipping. (Seat post, bottle cages not included, but Nitto R14 top rack is included I can include a saddle, but not the Rivet one pictured.) Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/B7rjxJhGoZAnMTTHA Parts: Nitro Tallux stem, 7 cm Ultegra headset Nitto 46 cm Noodles TRP road brake levers, drilled levers, gum hoods Silver bar-end shifters Grand Cru sidepull brakes from Velo Orange Shimano 105 F & R derailers Sugino triple crank set, 175 arms Compass Barlow Pass tires (38 mm) Mavic MA2 rims, 32 hole Suntour front hub Deore XT rear hub Grip King pedals 12-34, 9-speed cassette Nitto R-14 top rack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Orange Roadini frame 54cm
That was quick. Proud to say, I was once an owner of a Joe Bernard pedigreed Riv:-)))! When are gonna get a Roadeo? Best, Rich in ATL Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 2, 2018, at 11:09 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: > > SOLD. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ttQ69b3O6p8/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot
FWIW, I’m a guy with an 82 PBH (stubby legs, long torso) and I have a 55cm 2009 Sam. I believe the TT for that model year was something like 57 or 57.5 (don’t feel like looking it up). The bike definitely fits and is a joy to ride, but it does feel a bit long for me. Just saying a 55 might be worth a try, esp. if she’s going to set it up with upright bars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Jones H Bars
Bars are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: About a crash a Riv could have prevented
Always hate to hear about bike crashes and injuries. No bike is free of risks. It's a piece of equipment that must be operated with competence. Many consequences of falling short of that are just a poor experience to the rider like using too tall a gear on a hill. A majority of the negative outcomes do have physical risk, not just falling down. The bike business balances on that edge. As a long time year round commuter in a four season city, I'm all about advocating the same when others show interest. I veer away from specific bike recommendations and guide inquirers to shops who I know and trust. A bike is like a tennis racquet in a way. A good one is really obviously better in many ways, but neither it nor a bad one will make up for not having the basic skills developed to play the game. Lots of people buy pro racquets that live in closets, same as bike that are buried in their garages. It's just a much bigger waste of money. A guy that lives across the street from the coffee shop where a long standing group ride meets came to join one Tuesday evening. He's a tech guy that bounces between several locations in his work and apparently interested in cycling and joining in on the weekly ride. He's rides up on one of the first Scott CFRP rigs the TdF riders used that year that I'd seen in person. A $10k bike and the kit that at a glance you would take to be of a veteran rider. He wasn't. Someone actually up-sold him all that stuff and he really barely knew how to ride at all and the idea that we were going to ride in the street, across bridges with traffic produced unresolvable illogical fright to him. After the ride, which had been one of the more ambitious routes for the longer days near the solstice, I never saw that guy or his bike again. I don't ever want to be the person that promoted an individual on an idea that they are not particularly capable of in concept or physical aptitude. Our friend who moved to the city on a shoestring (if even that), got rid of her car, got a job in a field she dreamed about and is in school to prepare her for a career in the field was the alternative to the group ride guy. She is physically ambitious and physically poised from being a country tomboy who pursued dance to the professional level with the Joffrey Ballet in Europe before she got serious about a life's vocation. When I suggested that she could use a bike for transport, shopping and fun (another sufferer of the maladies from a neurotic running habit), she was into it. My advice was primarily that it must fit and position you well for your realistic use. We found that with a Public R-16 flatbar which accommodates her size and provides a position that anticipated riding up hills, in traffic, with loads and without. If I'm going to direct someone to a particular format, model or brand of a bike, I'm going to follow through to be sure they are happily getting a a return on their investment in both the bike and cycling. I started guiding our friend around where she lived and showed her how to use available bike paths and routes to connect her with shopping, sightseeing and work. She admitted that she'd never biked in the street with cars but by following my wheel, doing what I did, signaling when I did, she grew quickly confident in her skills and doesn't take any yard of her riding less than seriously. She's now a smart, confident rider and gained the recognition as such by those around her as such. With the shortening days she was interested in how to ride in the dark and I took her on a ride around town after commuting volume (and her pharmacology exam). As she experienced the difference between day and night riding, learned how much more important being seen and signaling intentions when in or near traffic, she really enjoyed it and wanted to see more. We were out for almost four hours and a food truck burrito. That's how I am comfortable being any more directing with the interests of others becoming commuters or cyclists. BTW- she's been trolling the internet and objectifying Rivendell bikes. She thinks she'll buy one before a car when she finishes school and starts working. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, November 1, 2018 at 3:10:38 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote: > > A new coworker who's also new to bikes, was going to get one for his > commute. I commute to work on bike sometimes and may have talked about > bikes/biking in happy hours. Maybe because of that he came to me one day > to consult what bike to buy. I gave my *opinion* about what would make a > good commute bike: wider tires, rim brakes, cromo frame/fork, upright > riding, ability to carry some stuff, etc. I gave him an intro to > Rivendell as well. Offered to lend my Joe A for a fews days if he wanted > to get a better idea what I was talking about. > > Like most folks who are new to the world bikes would be, he wasn't sold > the need to spend $1.6k (a Clem) on a bicycle
[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot
Not necessarily. Women for the same height as men tend to have longer legs/shorter torso, so an 84 PBH compared to my 80-81ish should give her about the same reach as me on a 51 Appaloosa, but with more seatpost showing. Which is deeply generalized and hypothetical on my part, of course, but remember that the 55 Appas and Sams are pretty dang long in the toptube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB - 51 Appaloosa or 51 Hillborne - or possibly 55 Cheviot
Shouldn’t she fit a 55 Sam or Joe? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
