[RBW] Re: long reach calipers in the wet?

[Nick Payne]

I have the predecessor of the R559 (the R556) on my Bleriot with cheap 
Shimano aero levers and Koolstop pads, and the stopping is fine in both wet 
and dry weather. It really doesn't feel any different from the SRAM Force 
22 levers/brakes using Swissstop pads on a Lynskey that I have. However, 
neither of those compare to the SRAM Red hydraulic disc (shock, horror) 
brakes I have on another bike.

Nick

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Steve Butcher]

I grew up on a farm in West Central Missouri and had a variety of sharp 
objects, amongst other things that could harm me, readily at my disposal.  
I recall instances picking up a hatchet to whack away at some stick or limb 
and received immediate instruction in how to do so safely by my father.  
His by line while I was growing up still rings in my ears:  "safety 
first".  I think this may have come from his years of serving in the U.S. 
Army as a heavy equipment operator.  Anyway, my opinion is that if a parent 
has the knowledge of how to use anything safely, it is their responsibility 
to teach their child how to do so.  From my experiences, I feel age 10 is a 
good age to teach safe hatchet handling skills (as well as axe or knife), 
as well as to how best to care for said implement.  These are all good 
things to teach, not only for safety sake; but for building maturity and a 
sense of responsibility.  I, also, feel another area that begs close 
monitoring, is how a child behaves with a hatchet, axe, or knife when in 
the company of their friends and peers.  A child is often anxious to 
demonstrate their new "skills" but this needs some instruction, as well.  
Sermon over...

Steve Butcher
Stockton, very rural southwest, Missouri

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 8:36:45 PM UTC-6, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
> his own.  
>
> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
> out for him.
>
> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
> entire life.
>
> Any perspectives?
>
> Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 11:54:42 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
> You let your child out on his own on the streets of DC at 7-10 years old?!?!?!

Hey, no parent-shaming! Headlin: Weird Things You Didn't Know About Rivsters 
And Their Kids. 

Compare this to the Mongolian kids hopping on little horses at two or three 
years old. My kid has been fencing since he was 7, so he's at least got some 
awareness of pointy tools. Plus we cook together in the kitchen, and have done 
some basic bicycle repairs. I wish my dad had been more of the type to 
introduce me to these skill sets.

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[RBW] Re: Two projects!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Holy girl bike? Is that a southern thing?

Karl wrote:
> Ditto on the photos... the 1995 Prototype sounds like. holy girl bike...
> Karl 
> Nashville, TN
> 
> On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:58:25 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:So both 
> of my RBW products are off-line for refurbishment.  The 1995 Road Prototype 
> developed a crack in the left chainstay near te BB shell. Allen Wanta in 
> Clearwater FL has it for replacement (He'll use Columbus or Dedacciai instead 
> of the Reynolds 753-heavy wall) and will re-spray it. It will keep its 
> current colors: Light English Blue (it was originally built at Waterford and 
> that is one of their colors) with cream (the same cream as the decal color) 
> lugs and bi-plane fork crown.  Allen was much more reasonable in price than 
> Waterford and his lead time is about 9 weeks. Btw, even Waterford's price was 
> 1/3 the cost of buying an equivalent new lugged frame, so GP was spot on when 
> he spoke about the long term value of a repairable steel frame. And this 
> particular bike is unique as far as I know and a keeper. I have ridden the 
> tar out of it since acquiring it off this list in 2008.
> painted an old Ford color, Amber (a

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[RBW] Re: Two projects!

[Karl]

It could be... but meant grail... I need to proofread more often

Karl
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Dave Grossman]

>
>
> Compare this to the Mongolian kids hopping on little horses at two or 
> three years old. My kid has been fencing since he was 7, so he's at least 
> got some awareness of pointy tools. Plus we cook together in the kitchen, 
> and have done some basic bicycle repairs. *I wish my dad had been more of 
> the type to introduce me to these skill sets.*
>

That is my motivation with my kids as well.  In our modern world most of us 
(especially in urban locales) are devoid of these types of skill sets.  
I've tried to learn as much as I can but I know so little. I want them to 
have a good understanding of those skill sets as they age.  My six year old 
has been cutting veggies and fruit with a knife since he was 3.  He makes a 
mean salad these days.


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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for brake shoes?

[Lum Gim Fong]

My stock R559/539 typr hollow shaft snapped upon tightening.
The thinline shoes look way stronger. Solid bolt shaft. The R559/539 shaft 
looks tinny and makes me not want to use them again in favor of a solid bolt 
type shaft like thinlines have.

What do you use?

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[RBW] Picked up my Roadini today 😀

[frazzywig]

Those guys are the best, 
https://www.facebook.com/587321671/posts/10156956905511672/

First ever Rivendell, couldn’t be more happy!

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Re: [RBW] How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Steven Seelig]

Thanks for all the thoughtful responses.  Yes, I do let my kid ride his 
bike around DC in our neighborhood, mostly on sidewalks.  The safety and 
experience perspective others have offered applies for him.  He has been 
taught what to do and when and I trust that he will do what's right when 
he's by himself.  I have taught him that being safe from cars is 100% his 
responsibility. My experience is that he's far more responsible when on his 
own than with a pack of other boys his age where he seems compelled to do a 
"hold my beer and watch this."

On the knife angle, he got a Swiss Army knife when he turned 8, and within 
30 seconds of opening it from the package gave himself a nice slice in the 
finger.  But it happened only once and now he's very careful while using it 
and other sharp objects.  

I never knew it, but I am a "lazy" parent per the above definition.  

Steve

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 7:14:48 AM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> Ways not to use a hatchet 
> : 
> chopping ice you're standing on:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Eric
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 9:36 PM Steven Seelig  > wrote:
>
>> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
>> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
>> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
>> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
>> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
>> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
>> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
>> his own.  
>>
>> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
>> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
>> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
>> out for him.
>>
>> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
>> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
>> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
>> entire life.
>>
>> Any perspectives?
>>
>> Steve
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Patrick Moore]

Steve: I approve, though I have to admit that I failed to be as confident
when my daughter was your son's age. In fact, from what I read, child
abductions, for one danger, are lower today than they were in the 1990s.
But I say, kudos.

OTOH, one of my early memories is slashing my left forefinger with a very
nice pocket knife my father gave me for an early birthday; forget age. I
just looked at the star now, 55+ years later.

On to the more general question. Looking back on my childhood, I am amazed
at how much freedom I and my siblings had in the 60s and 70s; such as, age
14, calling Mom and telling her "I'll spend the weekend with Brian" and
getting unquestioned permission. This left me hitchhiking back 30+ miles on
a drowsy Sunday afternoon along an isolated blacktop with infrequent
traffic while hung over from the previous night's festivities -- Thika back
to Rosslyn NW of Nairobi, 1969-1971. And yet my parents were very, very
attentive and strict. My brother, almost 6 years younger, would disappear,
age 8 to 10, into the surrounding bush to play with the village children,
learn Swahili, and hunt pigeons with stones, to roast over a fire along
with wild potatoes. As long as we were home by dinner time, no one
complained; no one even asked. I learned urban survival skills, especially
from the few times I was picked up, hitchhiking, by drunks or stoners,
either somnolent or hilarious, or angry and agressive; a year or 2 later,
urban bike riding skills in lawless traffic. My brother learned rural
survival skills. We all survived, the better for the youthful freedom.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 6:57 AM Dave Grossman  wrote:

>
>> Compare this to the Mongolian kids hopping on little horses at two or
>> three years old. My kid has been fencing since he was 7, so he's at least
>> got some awareness of pointy tools. Plus we cook together in the kitchen,
>> and have done some basic bicycle repairs. *I wish my dad had been more
>> of the type to introduce me to these skill sets.*
>>
>
> That is my motivation with my kids as well.  In our modern world most of
> us (especially in urban locales) are devoid of these types of skill sets.
> I've tried to learn as much as I can but I know so little. I want them to
> have a good understanding of those skill sets as they age.  My six year old
> has been cutting veggies and fruit with a knife since he was 3.  He makes a
> mean salad these days.
>
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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Randy Franks]

There's a lot of good, reasonable advice here. I'll just add a couple 
points of reference and some resources you might peruse.

The Cub Scouts have a hard prohibition against pocket knives through 2nd 
grade. After that, kids can earn a Whittling Chip 
 allowing 
him/her to carry a pocket knife at Scout events. The Boy Scouts, which is 
6th graders and up, have a woodworking badge called the Totin' Chip 
 addressing 
knives again, as well as larger tools like hatchets and saws. They can also 
lose the privileges if they're irresponsible or unsafe, and have to re-earn 
the chips.

The skill checklist and lesson plans floating around are good references. 
It's common sense stuff, but I usually find something useful, like a way of 
explaining that resonates with kids (e.g. stick out your arm, turn in a 
circle, if you cannot touch anybody it's safe to open your knife).



-Randy



On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:36:45 PM UTC-8, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
> his own.  
>
> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
> out for him.
>
> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
> entire life.
>
> Any perspectives?
>
> Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: Picked up my Roadini today 😀

[frazzywig]

Was meaning to add these pics of the actual bike as well. The last one is a 
pic of my wife standing with it from atop Mt. Diablo. We took a drive up 
there before heading home. 

https://imgur.com/a/HrvlAXS


On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 8:10:26 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>
> Those guys are the best, 
> https://www.facebook.com/587321671/posts/10156956905511672/ 
>
> First ever Rivendell, couldn’t be more happy!

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[William R.]

I've had a Gransfurs hatchet in the house since my son was 10 or so. He's 
14 now and still has all his digits. I showed him early on what he could do 
with it, how sharp it is. He especially likes how you can do pretty precise 
wood shaving with it if you hold it at the head. We have a couple of the 
knives that Riv sold/sells here too. He likes how you can do broader work 
with the axe and fine tune with the knives. Now my daughter is 10. The axe 
kind of scares her, she's not into it, but she likes carving and whittling 
with the knives. I recently scored a 6 lb long handled splitting axe at a 
flea market for $10. That is my favorite new tool. The kids stay away from 
that and my son makes "Here's Johnny!" jokes when I handle it, but it 
splits logs like nobody's business.

Regarding Jerry Garcia: I didn't know that he was missing a finger. Not a 
head, but I like em. Wondering how you axe off a middle finger without 
getting the others. I guess if things are arranged just so.

Bill in Westchester, NY

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Brian Campbell]

A-side, "What makes a man start fires" of course.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 12:31:25 AM UTC-5, sameness wrote:
>
> Sounds like a Minutemen B-side.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[frazzywig]

Oh cool thanks for that additional info. I'd definitely like to change my 
over to a similar look in the future. I was possibly thinking of going 1 X 
10 for a nice clean look too. That will have to be down the road though. 
For the short term I'm most likely just gonna switch out the current pedals 
with some MKS Sylvan's w/clips. 

Just in case you were interested, this is my setup 
currently, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/nDOG9F38ZYw

I'm really loving my Roadini :)


On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:14:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>
> The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
> For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's 
> 
> .
>
>>
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[RBW] What do Rivendell Riders use for brake shoes?

[Justin, Oakland]

I’ve heard good things about the Kool Stop Cross lads. They’ll be going on my 
Paul Racers soon. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: Two projects!

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Holy girl bike, Batman! It's a Clementine!

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Re: [RBW] Dyno wiring weatherproofing

[Jon BALER]

I also use dielectric grease on my dynamo connections, and had good success 
with my computer.   I also use it in my cheaper AAA battery powered blinkie 
lights to reduce the corrosion at the battery terminals.

You can pick up a tube for ~$5, and there shouldn't be any negative 
effects.   It is commonly used in marine power applications for the same 
reason.

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 8:52:47 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> Corroded where?  At the connection to the hub?  Perhaps grease might 
> help?  I used to have a chronic problem with corroded connections for my 
> wired-on bicycle computer, but dielectric grease fixed that once for all. 
>
> On 12/4/18 8:39 AM, Pam Bikes wrote: 
> > I have a dyno hub and a USB Werks that I use to capture my power 
> > generated during the day.  I like to leave the wires on but they have 
> > gotten corroded.  Any way to weatherproof them?  Internal USB 
> > connection is rusted thus charging is not reliable.  Ideally I'd like 
> > an inline switch.  Long story but the battery I charge draws too much 
> > power at night so I need to disconnect it at night.   If I can't find 
> > a solution, I can disconnect it all the time and just buy new wiring 
> > occasionally.  Any ideas? 
> > 
> > BTW I do ride everyday and sometimes the wiring was on in the rain and 
> > it probably did get wet.  I guess I need to be more careful but I get 
> > in a hurry to ride. 
> > 
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> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Did you have a 2018 cycling goal? Did you achieve it?

[Raymond Jensen]

I've been tracking annual bike miles since 2007, and the last 3 or 4 years 
I have averaged 5000 miles per year.  That became my goal for 2018.  I am 
not into event rides, races or long distance rides.  I usually like to ride 
30 or 35 miles for a typical day trip.

I retired at the end of last year, so this year was a new experience with 
more free time and independence.  So far, I've pedaled about 6000 miles 
this year.  I was on a bike tour in Germany over the entire summer, and 
pedaled about 2200 miles.   That bumped up my odometer to bypass the 5000 
mile goal easily.  It was also a great adventure.  During my work years, I 
never had the free time to go on a long bike tour, especially far away from 
home.   


>
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[RBW] Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Hugh Smitham]

Just curious what's the max tire width folks have squeezed into the 650b 
Hillborne?

Thanks,

~Hugh

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[RBW] Re: FS: Grilver Clem H Size 52 Brand New

[RDS]

Bump.   I'll take $1,300 and I will pay the shipping charge as long as it 
it within the continental USA

On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 8:23:06 AM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> I have a brand new, in box never opened, Clem H in size 52 in the Grilver 
> color.  Purchased earlier this year.  I haven't even opened the box. I paid 
> the full $1,650 price that's on the web site.  I'll take $1,400 and I will 
> pay the shipping charge as long as it it within the continental USA.  
> Contact me off list if interested.
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[RBW] Re: SRAM Bar End Shifters, my favorite lever

[Philip Williamson]

I'm looking at these for an upcoming 11sp build.
I was bummed that the cool red accents were gone, too. They'd match the 
Avid Ultimate brakes I have for the build. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 3:52:18 PM UTC-8, Hoffsta wrote:
>
> I've got a single 1x11spd Sram SL-500 on a new bike. Nice lever with very 
> positive click stops compared to the Shimano 9spd I've had previously. No 
> more cool red accents though.
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[RBW] Re: Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Drw]

My wife has an old canti sam that has 48mm tires. It could probably even go 
a little bigger.  When i had a 700c sam, it took 50mm just fine. no 
fenders, of course.  i have no reference for the new 650b canti sams 
though. 

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[RBW] FS: 1996 Rivendel road custom, 64 x 62.5 c-c, 753,$1400

[Steven Sweedler]

My Rivendell road is for sale, listed on my local craigslist, hoping for a
local face to face sale, realizing that's  a long shot, I will ship using
Bike Flights, I am an experienced bike packer. Thanks, Steve

https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/1996-rivendell-road-custom-64/6765679568.html

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Plymouth, New Hampshire

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[RBW] Re: Picked up my Roadini today 😀

[Scot]

Nice work! I'm jealous you got yours in person. Very similar build to what 
I just built; wheels, brakes, stem, bars, saddle (except you got the copper 
rivets). I approve, haha.

Scot
Orange, CA

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:40:40 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>
> Was meaning to add these pics of the actual bike as well. The last one is 
> a pic of my wife standing with it from atop Mt. Diablo. We took a drive up 
> there before heading home. 
>
> https://imgur.com/a/HrvlAXS
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 8:10:26 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>>
>> Those guys are the best, 
>> https://www.facebook.com/587321671/posts/10156956905511672/ 
>>
>> First ever Rivendell, couldn’t be more happy!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front
Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the
range without needing a braze-on/adapter.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 10:12 AM frazzywig  wrote:

> Oh cool thanks for that additional info. I'd definitely like to change my
> over to a similar look in the future. I was possibly thinking of going 1 X
> 10 for a nice clean look too. That will have to be down the road though.
> For the short term I'm most likely just gonna switch out the current pedals
> with some MKS Sylvan's w/clips.
>
> Just in case you were interested, this is my setup currently,
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/nDOG9F38ZYw
>
> I'm really loving my Roadini :)
>
>
> On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 9:14:22 AM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>>
>> The rear derailleur is SunXCD SXRD34M .
>> For the cranks, I was referring to the Velo Orange Grand Cru's
>> 
>> .
>>
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[RBW] FF: Readers & RBW catalogs, Bicycle Quarterly, Adventure Cyclist, Bay Area Ride Guide Books

['Jay Burkhalter' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I am cleaning out and clearing up before our next move so... Free to good 
homes for the price of postage.  To keep things simple on my end, please 
choose one, some, or all of the bundles (no breaking up of bundles).  

1) Rivendell Readers #31-40, 44
Rivendell Catalogs various 2004-06

2) Bicycle Quarterly 
2007 Summer, Autumn, Winter
2008 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter
2009 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter
2010 Spring, Summer
2011 Spring
2015 Spring

3) Adventure Cyclist (from Adventure Cycling Association) 48 issues from 
2008-2016

4) *Roads To Ride* by Grant Petersen and John Kluge
*Roads To Ride South* by Grant Petersen and Mary Anderson
   * Bay Area Bike Rides* by Ray Hosler 3rd. Edition
Bay Area Bike Rides card deck

Please pass these on when done rather than sell them.  I will update here 
when items are spoken for.  

Thanks,

Jay Burkhalter
Huntsville, AL > Austin, TX


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Re: [RBW] FF: Readers & RBW catalogs, Bicycle Quarterly, Adventure Cyclist, Bay Area Ride Guide Books

[Joe Bunik]

hi Jay
I'd love to grab bundle #4.

I'd happily also take the BQ bundle, but mostly to pass forward to
friend/family.
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 12/5/18, 'Jay Burkhalter' via RBW Owners Bunch
 wrote:
> I am cleaning out and clearing up before our next move so... Free to good
> homes for the price of postage.  To keep things simple on my end, please
> choose one, some, or all of the bundles (no breaking up of bundles).
>
> 1) Rivendell Readers #31-40, 44
> Rivendell Catalogs various 2004-06
>
> 2) Bicycle Quarterly
> 2007 Summer, Autumn, Winter
> 2008 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter
> 2009 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter
> 2010 Spring, Summer
> 2011 Spring
> 2015 Spring
>
> 3) Adventure Cyclist (from Adventure Cycling Association) 48 issues from
> 2008-2016
>
> 4) *Roads To Ride* by Grant Petersen and John Kluge
> *Roads To Ride South* by Grant Petersen and Mary Anderson
>* Bay Area Bike Rides* by Ray Hosler 3rd. Edition
> Bay Area Bike Rides card deck
>
> Please pass these on when done rather than sell them.  I will update here
> when items are spoken for.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay Burkhalter
> Huntsville, AL > Austin, TX
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[RBW] Re: Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Lum Gim Fong]

42mm tire with fenders on blue sam 

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Lum Gim Fong]

My concern is less about traffic and more about the amount of sex offenders 
who live and work in DC as can be seen in just this small slice of the 
district thru the family watchdog sex offender registry:
https://www.familywatchdog.us/showmap.asp

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Lum Gim Fong]

You can look up how many sex offenders live and work in your neck of DC 
here:
http://sexoffender.dc.gov/

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Re: [RBW] FF: Readers & RBW catalogs, Bicycle Quarterly, Adventure Cyclist, Bay Area Ride Guide Books

[bo richardson]

i would love bundle number one

thanks so much

Bo Richardson
Bellingham wa

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[sameness]

You can also look up how many women, minorities, poor people and veterans 
live and work (or don't) in your neck of DC here:
https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/nav/jsf/pages/index.xhtml

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 2:25:45 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> You can look up how many sex offenders live and work in your neck of DC 
> here:
> http://sexoffender.dc.gov/
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[RBW] Appaloosa/Sam

[John Casteen]

I own both of these bikes and use them for pretty similar purposes, namely 
daily commuting and errands plus longer/loaded touring (Joe, albatross) and 
stripped down Road rides (Sam, noodle bar). Both are stable, neither is 
ridiculously heavy, and they both ride great either with or without a load.

I agree with the earlier poster who said that a lighter wheelset for your 
existing bike might make a difference that would keep you from buying another 
bike. (This could be an argument for or against buying the wheelset, 
obviously.) My Sam had Alex DM-18 rims with 38 mm Little Big Ben tires, and is 
a totally different beast on its new Dyads and Jack Browns. So you may be able 
to avoid n+1 if you buy new shoes.

If I were to choose between the two, which is apparently not my strength, I 
would buy the Joe if it were for wider tires on rough roads/trails, the Sam for 
42 mm or narrower tires on mostly pavement or gravel. But I agree with those 
who have said you really can't go wrong with either frame.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks. Vince at Riv claims 44mm max. I'd love to fit a 47-48mm but the
newer ones may not as Vince states. I realize the Clem will fit  2"+ but I
like the Hillborne looks.

Hugh

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018, 1:08 PM Drw  My wife has an old canti sam that has 48mm tires. It could probably even
> go a little bigger.  When i had a 700c sam, it took 50mm just fine. no
> fenders, of course.  i have no reference for the new 650b canti sams
> though.
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[RBW] Re: Picked up my Roadini today 😀

[frazzywig]

Thanks. I feel pretty damn lucky that I happen to live so close to RBW. 
It's about 2 hours away. They are crazy nice to work with at the shop. 
Really helpful, patient, and informative. My wife and I got a chance to 
meet Grant, and I feel like we totally fucked it up, fanboy'd too hard, 
lol. It's all good though. I think he understands. 

My wife is still having an amazing Cheviot built out. I can't wait to be 
riding around our small ass gold rush town (approx. 2,800 population, but 
only about 400 people near the immediate main st. area). I really feel that 
not nearly enough people ride bikes here, and it's perfectly setup to be a 
bike town. Anyway, I have this stupid dream that people will see our Riv 
bikes, lose their shit with desire, and maybe it'll start a little 
bikevolution happening here. Haha. If nothing else we're gonna have the 
best time with our bikes and our 9 year old son. I just got through 
teaching him how to ride a couple of months ago and we've been riding 
almost every day since.

I've got a lot of stuff in mind for the long run, but my first 
customizations/additions are going to be a minimal half fender, and some 
nice MKS Sylvan pedals with clips. Just ordered this guy (shown in attached 
pics) for the back.

Carlos
Sutter Creek, CA

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 1:50:10 PM UTC-8, Scot wrote:
>
> Nice work! I'm jealous you got yours in person. Very similar build to what 
> I just built; wheels, brakes, stem, bars, saddle (except you got the copper 
> rivets). I approve, haha.
>
> Scot
> Orange, CA
>
> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:40:40 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>>
>> Was meaning to add these pics of the actual bike as well. The last one is 
>> a pic of my wife standing with it from atop Mt. Diablo. We took a drive up 
>> there before heading home. 
>>
>> https://imgur.com/a/HrvlAXS
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 8:10:26 AM UTC-8, frazzywig wrote:
>>>
>>> Those guys are the best, 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/587321671/posts/10156956905511672/ 
>>>
>>> First ever Rivendell, couldn’t be more happy!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Bill Schairer]

“My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front 
Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the 
range without needing a braze-on/adapter”

Did you try a vintage derailleur?  I use a Suntour Cyclone on my Atlantis to 
shift a 24/38/46 triple and it has the range.  I’m thinking there are a number 
of different models that would do the trick. Is the seat tube too fat on the 
Roadini?

Bill

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[RBW] Re: Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Zach Duval]

I roll 48mm Switchback Hills on my 2014 side pull Sam (Tektro calipers), no 
fenders. Wouldn't go any larger.

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 12:56:25 PM UTC-7, Hugh Smitham wrote:
> Just curious what's the max tire width folks have squeezed into the 650b 
> Hillborne?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> ~Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Re: My First Rivendell... Meet my Leo Roadini and I.

[Scot Klein]

I think the seat tube is 31.8mm. Wanted to do the complete build through
Riv, so I went with the CX70, which I have no complaints about. In the back
of my mind, I knew I could grab something vintage off eBay and throw it on
there if I wanted to.  Mainly I knew the second the bike arrived, I would
want to be out riding it and didn't want any downtime if something didn't
work out. Will leave everything as is for now.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 3:40 PM Bill Schairer  wrote:

> “My objective was the retro/vintage look with all silver components. Front
> Deraileur is an exception because I couldn't find one that could handle the
> range without needing a braze-on/adapter”
>
> Did you try a vintage derailleur?  I use a Suntour Cyclone on my Atlantis
> to shift a 24/38/46 triple and it has the range.  I’m thinking there are a
> number of different models that would do the trick. Is the seat tube too
> fat on the Roadini?
>
> Bill
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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

If it's good enough for Jerry Garcia, it's good enough for me. I, too, have 
always wondered how they managed to just cut off the middle finger. I think 
your kid will do just fine with the hatchet. 

Oh, and this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZH2bmbUTl4

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thank you, Mr. Hagedorn. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZH2bmbUTl4

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Justin, Oakland]

Where the fuck did this thread go?

-J

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Kalmia Vt]

I gave a small axe to one of my children at about ten years old, a 
Wetterling's with a length of about 19 inches. I think the Gränsfors Small 
Forest Axe is about the same size. This is a good length for a person that 
age to use two-handed, as an axe. It's easy to chop off a finger or other 
parts using  one-handed. Two-handed gives better control and keeps both 
hands out of any impact. I taught my child a set of safe practices for 
using an axe, and seeing they could be trusted to follow the safety rules I 
had many happy hours and days listening to forts and tiny cabins being 
built out behind the house. Basically, I believe that a small axe of 
appropriate length and weight for the child's size is far safer than a 
short-handled hatchet, and they are ready when supervised use can be 
tapered off to less- and un-supervised. 

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 9:36:45 PM UTC-5, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
> his own.  
>
> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
> out for him.
>
> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
> entire life.
>
> Any perspectives?
>
> Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[MTR]

I would recommend getting a boys axe (light head longer handle) over a 
hatchet, axes are much safer then hatchets. If you miss with an hatchet it 
is more likely to hit the person using it then a longer handled axe.  




On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:36:45 PM UTC-8, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I'm inspired by the new shipment Riv has of the Gransfors Bruk Hatchet, 
> but not for me.  My son is turning 10, and at some time in the past, 
> probably when he was 5, I told him he could get one when he turned 10.  
> Little did I know he would remember.  He's a handy and inquisitive fellow, 
> and my parenting view has always been to let him do stuff on his own.  He 
> has ridden his bike by himself to the local market here in the wilds of the 
> city of DC since he was about 7 and seems to be semi-responsible when on 
> his own.  
>
> We do bike camping together, so there could be a need for a hatchet to 
> chop wood for fires, but as a Grateful Dead head I'm aware that Jerry 
> Garcia's brother axed off his middle finger when Jerry was 6.  It worked 
> out for him.
>
> My wife seems okay with letting me decide, which in most circumstances is 
> a green light.  I think a hatchet would be better than something with a 
> longer handle.  And I am willing to get him something good he can own his 
> entire life.
>
> Any perspectives?
>
> Steve
>

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Philip Williamson]

Seems like we're drifting off topic. 

Most molesters are related to the victim, or in a position of authority 
over them. It is orders of magnitude more common for uncles, pastors, and 
coaches to molest kids than "stranger danger." That said, I grew up in 
Northern California in the 70s and 80s, which was a great time and place 
for cults and serial killers. Growing up with such high-profile danger made 
me pretty cautious about letting my kid go places alone. Of the molestation 
cases in the town we lived in, the perps all seemed to be people known to 
the victim.  

Philip 
Santa Rosa, CA 


On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 2:25:45 PM UTC-8, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> You can look up how many sex offenders live and work in your neck of DC 
> here:
> http://sexoffender.dc.gov/
>

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[RBW] WTT: Brooks B67 Antique Brown for B17

[J Imler]

I've got a B67 that's not seen much use, never rained on, very good condition. 
Looking for a B17, open to color variants but dig the Apple green. PM off list 
if interested in pics/discussion. Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for brake shoes?

[Tim Bantham]

I had the salmon thinline shoes on Paul Racer's and was not thrilled with 
the performance. I switched to Kool Stop Cyclocross pads and they are a 
significant upgrade. I would recommend them. 

On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 9:46:28 AM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> My stock R559/539 typr hollow shaft snapped upon tightening.
> The thinline shoes look way stronger. Solid bolt shaft. The R559/539 shaft 
> looks tinny and makes me not want to use them again in favor of a solid 
> bolt type shaft like thinlines have.
>
> What do you use?
>

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[RBW] Re: How young is too young for a boy to get a hatchet?

[Drw]

There’s also a lot of people on that sex offender list who did things most of 
us would not consider to be sex offenses. Urinating in public for example. I’m 
not defending anyone, but those lists can be super deceptive.

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[RBW] Re: Max Tire Size on 650b Hillborne?

[Drw]

I could probably get down to one bike if they made a Sam with clem clearances.

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Re: [RBW] FF: Readers & RBW catalogs, Bicycle Quarterly, Adventure Cyclist, Bay Area Ride Guide Books

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I would love bundle #2 unless these also are going to Joe!

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson

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