[RBW] Re: long reach calipers in the wet?

[Mike G]

I think it depends on a variety of things including the rims you intend to 
use and various other things related to where and how you ride. I purchased 
a non-canti 650b Sam Hillborne in Spring 2017 and ride in Vancouver, BC. We 
get a lot of rain and we have a lot of hills.I first tried using HED 
Belgium Plus rims with Silver branded R559s and  while I had no problem 
with the  brakes engaging, I found that the brake arms flexed enough while 
braking going down hills or mountain roads to creep up and make contact 
with the tires in the front.

After a few months of attempting (myself and via bike shops) to adjust the 
brake pads to not contact the tires in the front and having no luck, I 
swapped the front Silver brake for a Paul Racer. After another few months 
of having the same problem, I had my wheels rebuilt using Pacenti Brevet 
rims, which a few mm taller brake track than the HEDs. After this, I found 
that the pads wouldn't run into the tire if adjusted just right, but would 
still creep worryingly close to the tires when braking hard. This resulted 
in me having to adjust the pads every few rides and probably not riding the 
bike as much as would otherwise given how much I enjoy it. 

This fall I threw in the towel, brought the bike to a frame builder and had 
them weld Compass Center Pull bosses on the bike. It's been great since, 
but if I were to do it all over again I would have just purchased a model 
with canti bosses. In any event, if you don't need to brake too hard or if 
you're using a rim with a really tall brake track, like an Alex Rims DM18 
or something, you should probably be fine.

Cheers,

Mike

On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 4:40:17 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> While I'm hemming and hawing over Reid's Joe Appaloosa for sale, I find my 
> eye also wandering over to the new MIT Hilsens. The sizing looks good, love 
> the color, nary an extra tube to be found (though I'm warming up to the 
> extra tubes). But, it uses the long reach R559 type brake. I've used this 
> brake (and the DC Mod 750) on previous 650b conversions, and it hasn't been 
> a great experience. They work OK in the dry, but when the rims are wet, the 
> stopping power was terrible. As a test, I sprayed my front rim with my 
> water bottle, and the R559 brakes took twice the distance to stop as my V 
> brake equipped Clem. That was with salmon pads on the R559. Mountain bike 
> style levers on both bikes. 
>
> So, does anyone have a setup that works in the wet for long reach brakes? 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Eric
> who should just stick to my rule of "V brakes or discs or pass it by"
>

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[RBW] Re: Call for bicycling pics – for Photo Mural

[plattyjo]

Hey Andy,

I’m happy to submit some photos, too. Just let me know how and wouldn’t mind 
including a small watermark with my name on it if that’s cool! Sounds like a 
rad project!

Cheers,
Jenny

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[RBW] Re: Call for bicycling pics – for Photo Mural

[Peter Trasko]

Hi Andi, I saw your call for bike photos on the RBW list. I can't post 
there, but I thought you might like this album I've been collecting for a 
while: https://imgur.com/a/FnXXW

I've been collecting what I think are really interesting or cool bike 
pictures from the 20th century. They extend from the 1900s to the 1990s. 
I've only been collecting those that have some interest besides being 
merely old. Some of them have historical interest, like the early MTBers in 
Marin county, or a group of black cyclists in the very early 1900s. Some of 
them are just amazing shots, and I think all of them, somehow, exude a love 
of cycling. 

If you think some of these are cool, it would be nice if you could post the 
link to your forum topic. I can't post there, but I would love to share 
with the group. 

Cheers,
Patrick

On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 5:15:26 PM UTC+1, Andy C. wrote:
>
> Great pics are always being posted by members of this group. Now I ask: 
> who among you would like to contribute images for a mural of bicycle photos?
>
> I work at the Main Branch of the San Francisco Public Library and early 
> next year we will be renovating our staff bike parking room.  In addition 
> to expanding the space and installing new racks, we will remodel the room 
> in a way that will celebrate cycling and encourage more staff to bike to 
> work. One feature will be a bike photo collage covering one wall. This is 
> where you all come in. I have seen many stunning and cool pics posted here 
> that would be inspiring for our commuters after the morning slog and before 
> the evening grind home. Who knows, maybe they’ll even take their breaks in 
> the bike room to look at the photos.
>
> Types of photos wanted:
>
>- 
>
>Bike riding (adults, children, groups, teams, pets)
>- 
>
>Riding in nature/the country
>- 
>
>Riding in the city
>- 
>
>Racing/Cyclocross
>- 
>
>Mud, rain, snow
>- 
>
>Riders on unusual bikes
>- 
>
>Screwball pictures
>- 
>
>Other (surprise me!)
>
> Generally, I’m not looking for pictures of bicycles alone, close-ups of 
> builds, etc. The exception to this might be bikes in unique or gorgeous 
> locations or perched in front of an impressive or funny sign. I’m also not 
> looking for nature shots without people on bikes. Even though the mural 
> will be in SF, it is not limited to Bay Area pics (though these are highly 
> encouraged, for sure). International entries are also welcome.
>
> I can’t offer any payment. I did ask our Exhibitions staff if I could send 
> a digital copy of the mural to all contributors but such a thing will not 
> exist. However, the images will be printed individually and the mural will 
> be pieced together on the wall, collage style. It may be possible to put 
> the photographer’s name on their image and, depending on your responses, we 
> can definitely consider this option. When complete, I will surely take 
> shots of the entire mural to share with you all.
>
> I can’t guarantee that I’ll use all submissions because right now I don’t 
> know what the response will be like. However, I do encourage you to 
> contribute as many photos as you like. As for pixels, since each collage 
> image will be in the 10 x 12 or 14 x 16 inch range, lower pixel count (in 
> the 1000s) is doable. However, the higher the better, for sure. Please send 
> the best you got!
>
> I’m trying to be sensitive to everyone’s rights and property. If there is 
> anything that seems inappropriate about me approaching the group this way, 
> or if you have any suggestions, please let me know. When submitting pics, 
> please reply directly to me or, if you like, steer me to your blog/Flickr 
> (or other) account to browse and download.
>
> Thanks so much,
>
> --Andy C.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2007 53cm Atlantis, 26" wheels, S&S couplers

[Kevin Neadeau]

Wondering how tall you are, Judy? My wife is 5'4 and looking for a bike 
like this!


On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 1:24:36 PM UTC-7, masmojo wrote:
>
> I've already got a 53 myself (sans S&S couplers), but I would be all over 
> that if I didn't have several other balls in the air. Hope it goes to a 
> good home!

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[RBW] Re: FS: Clearing out Saddle Wedges, Zippered Pouches, & Leather Goods

[Todd Porter]

Just to chime in, I have one of the wallets and love it. Excellent product, 
excellent value.

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[RBW] Cure for a bad mood, rain ride

[Daniel D.]

Ran some errands the other day, took the roadini.  Started the ride a 
litttle po'd at the roadini and rivendell.  Had a pity party, my nitto $$ 
polished seat post is getting scratched up because it's constantly slipping.

Started sprinkling on the way home turned into rain showers.  Got home 
loving my bike and in a great mood. 


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[RBW] WTB Nitto Dirtdrop stem

[Dave Redmon]

Should have kept my Nitto Dirtdrop stem, but I sold it. Now I need another. 
Either 8 cm or 10 cm reach will work. Please contact me off list.

Dave in Kansas

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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[tc]

Win-Win-Win  Thank you Alex!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

[John Hawrylak]

I use the Nitto saddlebag wire guard (Riv link below) with cantilever rear 
brakes  
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189

with a Carradice type bag (Schwinn approved Model 00-015) a Large 70's 
Japanese Schwinn bag and an Ostrich S-2.  The bags are heavy enough to 
contact the guard.  The wire guard keeps all 3 bags off of the rear brake 
cable.  The bag sits on the guard and the cable is below the top of the 
guard.  My frame size is 21" C-T.

I think the Nitto wire guard would work for you

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: FS: 3 Rivendell bikes, Surly bike, Xtracycle, CycleTote Trailer

['Jay Burkhalter' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Rambouillet and CycleTote have sold.  

I appreciate all the interest!

Jay


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Re: [RBW] Comparing Fabio's Chest and Large Saddlesack in use [was:Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?]

[Patrick Moore]

I've done that too, with all sorts of bags, but it's too inconvenient (for
me, personally) -- I want a carrier that I can shove things in, cover up,
and click or strap closed. And I'll bet that the family sized 2 gallon bag
of Cheez Doodles won't take kindly to being cinched down on top of the bag.
(OK, I don't eat Cheez Doodles or Cheese Puffs or what have you, but I do
like the occasional bag of tortilla chips or potato chips.)

Really, the pair of Ortlieb Roller Packers at 40 litres is entirely big
enough, but I am a not-apparently-recovering bag fetishist and I am telling
my story.

Patrick Moore, who has spent enough on various bags over the years to fund
at least 1 more Riv custom.

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 2:15 PM 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I strap “puffy bags of this and that” atop the saddlesack, usually in a
> shopsack. Doubles or triples the space.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Comparing Fabio's Chest and Large Saddlesack in use [was:Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?]

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I strap “puffy bags of this and that” atop the saddlesack, usually in a 
shopsack. Doubles or triples the space.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Comparing Fabio's Chest and Large Saddlesack in use [was:Volume of LARGE Saddlsack?]

[Patrick Moore]

Speaking of Fabio's chest, has anyone used both the largest Saddlesack and
this bag, and can you tell me how they compare in actual, usable grocery
loading? I found the Saddlesack Large too small for the bigger grocery
loads I carry; for example, I sometimes cram a 12 pack into a large pannier
along with puffy bags of this or that; Saddlesack Large was too small.

But the Fabio's Chest ought to carry more even than my pair of Roller
Packers, which carry as much as I need to carry, and it ought to be easier
to load. I'm thinking of the FC for the Hon Solo with a Nitto QR
attachment; on a Flite, the QR attachment makes the bag hang low, and that
ought to work just fine with the gap between saddle and high-sitting Dahon
rack.

For now, I've found a way to attach the Roller Packers to the Dahon
Ultimate Cargo Rack (
http://shop.dahonbikes.com/p/dahon-ultimate-rear-carrier?pp=8) so that they
clear my feet and still fit tightly on the rear rack of the 2003 Riv; but a
really big saddlebag would be even better.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 8:28 AM Shoji Takahashi 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
> Yes, Fabios Chest is designed to-be mounted on handlebars and also on
> saddle loops. The YouTube video with Poppi describing the features is
> informative. https://youtu.be/Ge4v9t5JkfQ
>
> Good luck!
> shoji
>
>
>
> On Thursday, December 13, 2018 at 6:26:51 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Jon. I wonder if that can be installed on a saddle.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:38 AM Jon BALER  wrote:
>>
>>> Ultra Romance Fabios Chest is 44 liters
>>> https://ultraromance.bigcartel.com/product/fabschest-olive-cordura
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 4:50:11 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Sorry, don't know; sold my Hoss a couple of years ago. From my
 recollection of loading both, I'd guess it's much the same as that of a
 large Saddlesack.

 On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 10:18 AM Steven Sweedler 
 wrote:

> Patrick, any idea what the capacity of the Hoss, I know it helps to
> have12” from saddle loops to rack/support.
> Tracking for mitten shells: 9500 1137 6261 8345 1986 89
> Steve
>
> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:22 AM Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all; this is the info I needed to decide -- that the Large is
>> not Large enough for me. Too bad, because I really like saddlebags, in a
>> sentimental, impractical way, rather as I like the *idea* of
>> Moustache bars. And, there was a Large offered for sale at a reasonable
>> price recently,
>>
>> FWIW, my Ortlieb Sports Packers carry 30 litres the pair while my
>> Roller Packers carry 40, so until someone makes a 50 liter saddlebag, I
>> guess I'll stick with panniers.
>>
>> Class: for your homework tonight, draw a picture of a 50 liter
>> saddlebag mounted to a 49 cm frame.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who despite his preference for panniers, presently
>> owns: Carradice Junior; Carradice Camper Longflap; Carradice SQR Slim.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:11 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>
>>> I checked my memory in a roundabout way and am 97.8 percent sure I'm
>>> correct.  I have a pair of Carradice Kendal panniers and was considering
>>> using those last spring on a tour, and remember thinking that the total
>>> volume of the Kendals at 32 liters was about the same as that of my 
>>> large
>>> Saddlesack, so capacity-wise it didn't matter.
>>>
>>> Dave
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Re: [RBW] Re: HubbuhHubbuh email from Riv & donation idea

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Woot!  Heard back from Christine today!  She's a professor and was buried 
in finals etc etc.

We talked on the phone for about 40 mins, she's great.  Long story short, 
she's navigating the withdrawal requirements/protocol for Paypal/Go Fund Me 
and will be in contact with Will at HQ to pay for the frame deposit.  She's 
all in, and excited to swap out one of their donated tandems for a more 
beginner friendly/wide size-range design.  She'll make room by donating one 
of her more "race-y" tandems to Blind Stokers in San Diego.  

Patience is a virtue indeed ;-)


Alex in Rochester

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[RBW] Re: Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

[Paul G]

Thanks for the responses. And forgive me for the spelling errors in my 
original post. Good grief! I should proofread more thoroughly before 
posting!

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[RBW] Re: Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

[Jonathan K.]

I recently encountered this exact issue on my Sam Hillborne. I mounted my 
Medium Saddlesack, and it pushes pretty hard against the cable (on Shimano 
CX 50 cantilevers), even with the support of a Nitto R14 rack. I just 
ordered a Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard from Rivendell yesterday to deal with 
the issue.


On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:56:03 AM UTC-6, Paul G wrote:
>
> For those of you whole run centerpulls or cantilevers, do you have 
> problems with the rear brake cable and/or straddle cable wearing into 
> saddle bags that rest agains them?
>
> It seems to me that a loaded Saddle Sack without a rear rack would 
> naturally press against the rear brake cable at or below the area of the 
> rear cable hanger. Does this cause and interference with the braking or 
> long term wear of the bag?
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[RBW] Re: Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

[Cody Bartz]

With large bags there is a good chance that it will rub the brake cable. 
However, maybe if it is large enough to rest on a rear rack it may not. I 
don't have experience with really large bags. I have a Sackville Small, 
which is fairly large compared to normal saddlebags, and it rubs. I do have 
a lot of space between my saddle and rack/tire though. I haven't used the 
bag enough for it to do any damage. It makes marks on the bag, but hasn't 
hurt the fabric. Smaller bags, such as a banana bag, don't rub as it stops 
above the cable hanger.

I have been curious about this Nitto saddlebag wire guard (Riv link below) 
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189

Acorn sells this product to help with this issue:
https://www.acornbags.com/collections/accessories-all/products/leather-stand-off-with-strap

Another option is a bag support:
https://theradavist.com/2016/09/ocean-air-cycles-erlen-saddle-bag-support/

Cody Bartz
Key West, FL

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[RBW] Re: My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Justin, Oakland]

I should say that I got hit by a car and took a chainring to the Achilles in my 
mid 20s. I was on crutches for a hike and my muscles really suffered. Then I 
gained a TON of weight and could only walk a block before intense pain 
happened. I cut out some trash food I was eating and learned Olympic lifts and 
even did some cross fit. I’ve found that the key to my back is keeping below a 
target weight and keeping up my whole body strength. Planks, squats, pushups, 
table rows, pull ups etc are what I do these days. I dabble in kettle bells and 
try not to fold my body like origami on the bike. But I can do that if I want. 
It’s all about getting your body to be able to do what you want. Some need the 
Aggro fold. Some don’t. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Dave Grossman]

39 here with a lumbar surgery behind my back (pun intended).

If it wasn't for Riv and the Riv paradigm, I wouldn't be riding much.  I've 
given up my dreams of riding light and fast bikes for being comfortable all 
day in almost all situations.  And they do that for sure.


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Re: [RBW] Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Depending on the height of your seat, the bag would have to hang pretty low to 
be in contact with the exposed part of the cable. Even then, I would think it 
might make a mark but wouldn’t damage the bag. There’s not enough movement in 
the cable to do much harm.

--Eric Norris
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> On Dec 18, 2018, at 9:56 AM, Paul G  wrote:
> 
> For those of you whole run centerpulls or cantilevers, do you have problems 
> with the rear brake cable and/or straddle cable wearing into saddle bags that 
> rest agains them?
> 
> It seems to me that a loaded Saddle Sack without a rear rack would naturally 
> press against the rear brake cable at or below the area of the rear cable 
> hanger. Does this cause and interference with the braking or long term wear 
> of the bag?
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[RBW] Centerpull/Cantilever brakes and saddle bags

[Paul G]

For those of you whole run centerpulls or cantilevers, do you have problems 
with the rear brake cable and/or straddle cable wearing into saddle bags 
that rest agains them?

It seems to me that a loaded Saddle Sack without a rear rack would 
naturally press against the rear brake cable at or below the area of the 
rear cable hanger. Does this cause and interference with the braking or 
long term wear of the bag?

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[RBW] Re: How do you track your mileage?

[Jon BALER]

Since I care more about the route than the stats, I find ridewithgps to be 
much more useful for navigating and research.  I hate that strava forces 
you to sign in just to see someone's route, and the map views are pretty 
pathetic.

Jon 
Ellicott City, MD

On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 11:43:51 AM UTC-5, stoker wrote:
>
> Like many of the previous responses, I also use Strava. It works quite 
> well for my needs - tracking mileage and sharing ride experiences with 
> friends (although my primary use is to track mileage). I began using it in 
> June of 2013 and I’m coming up on 47,000 miles. I primarily use my iPhone 
> to record rides (super easy) or I use a Garmin 520 for longer/complex 
> routes. Uploading to Strava is a cinch when paired to my phone at the end 
> of the ride. - Robb S (Strava profile)

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[RBW] How do you track your mileage?

[stoker]

Like many of the previous responses, I also use Strava. It works quite well for 
my needs - tracking mileage and sharing ride experiences with friends (although 
my primary use is to track mileage). I began using it in June of 2013 and I’m 
coming up on 47,000 miles. I primarily use my iPhone to record rides (super 
easy) or I use a Garmin 520 for longer/complex routes. Uploading to Strava is a 
cinch when paired to my phone at the end of the ride. - Robb S (Strava profile)

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[RBW] Re: Call for bicycling pics – for Photo Mural

[Andy C.]

*you can use this photo i took while hauling library holds on my quickbeam. 
:) *

Sweet! I see that the basket and net can barely contain your intellectual 
pursuits. Thanks, Jenny!


*Oh, Andy, you might regret asking 😂 Kids, pets, I’ve got them all! *

No regrets here, just the opposite. Thanks for sharing, Leah. Great pics.


*Approx. how many photos do you need?  Seems you will have to curate them 
so I'm assuming only a few per person? *

Folks can send as many as they want. I won't be able to use all of them but 
it is nice to have a selection (and to see people's images). So far, I have 
received some amazing pics and a wide variety. However, I encourage more 
submissions as we do have a whole wall to cover.


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[RBW] Re: My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Kevin Mulcahy]

I'm 37 with a history of back problems. Two years ago I had a flair up with 
sciatic pain that took me off the bike for a while and decided to make a 
change. I started doing a planks once I was healed and haven't had an 
injury since. I now typically do 2-5 minutes of a variety of plank stuff 
each day while my coffee and oatmeal is cooking. Great way to start the day!

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[RBW] Re: How do you track your mileage?

[Bill Schairer]

https://itunes.apple.com/nz/app/ride-report-bike-ride-tracker/id1053230099?mt=8

After reading reviews in the Apple App store I’ve concluded Ride Report would 
not provide the kind of accuracy I want and get from Strava.  I’m getting the 
feeling that these apps that automatically record activities, while maybe 
convenient, are still in need of a lot of work.  My wife uses one for “steps” 
taken during the day and is quite baffled by the seemingly random data she 
gets.  She thinks she sometimes gets “steps” when stuck in stop and go traffic.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2007 53cm Atlantis, 26" wheels, S&S couplers

[Karl]

Way to go Ryan! Send pictures when she is built! I bought a 58cm Atlantis 
frame next month to send for some S&S treatment. Glad someone picked this 
one up. It is for sure a lifetime bike!

Karl
Nashville, TN

On Tuesday, December 18, 2018 at 6:17:47 AM UTC-6, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> SOLD

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2007 53cm Atlantis, 26" wheels, S&S couplers

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

SOLD

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[RBW] My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Palmer]

Hi Nick,
Sorry to hear of your back issues. I had back issues in my 30’s as well. No 
disc issues, but I would throw out my back every year or two and end up on the 
couch for a day or three. I also have had inflammation issues my whole life. 
The last 2 years have been the best back and inflammation wise in my adult 
years. I am 54. I went the upright route most of 2017 even in group rides and 
it helped me greatly. As flexibility and back strength increased, I could use 
level with the seat drop bars, even able to ride in the drops when windy.The 
deal for me started with reducing sugar and grains for inflammation. Have you 
considered diet in your disc issue? I know it sounds crazy, but I fixed my 
sleep apnea in 1 week by getting off grains and sugar completely for a week. My 
doctors were unimpressed and said you wil be back. I have not been 23 months 
later. I do not have an answer for you specifically, but there must be 
something that can help with the elasticity of your disc. As I understand it, 
your disc is like a bulging bike tire that allows your nerves to be pinched 
between veritibrae. What also helped was riding fixed gear, upright at first 
and now drop bars. Fixed really tightens up (in a good way) the back structure 
and core. Even if I do not do any other  core work, a decent fixed gear ride 
make me feel good. 
Sorry for the long post, I just want to encourage you to look at all angles. 
Your back has a structural issue that if it wasn’t an impact injury, something 
was weak in there that got weaker over time. Our bodies have an amazing ability 
to heal if we give it the materials to repair and the rest or movement needed 
to do the work. 
Hope things go well for you. 
Tom Palmer

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[RBW] Re: Chapter 11 for parent company of Performance Bike

[Garth]

   There's always more to a story !It seems to me it will be more of 
re-arrangement of their operations. They started as a mail order company, 
and who knows maybe they'll go back to that mostly with stores just in 
certain high demand areas. 


https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2018/11/15/ase-owner-performance-bicycle-and-asi-file-chapter-11



On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:16:54 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> I just read this:  https://www.performancebike.com/shop/importantupdate
>
> Sad to see another shop hit the dust.  My local PB was very convenient for 
> picking up odds and ends that Riv was out of or didn't carry.
>
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: My back is pretty stoked on my Rivendell...

[Craig Montgomery]

>From the opposite side of the spectrum. Mid-60's. No back problems. Been 
riding a Rivendell with bars at or above saddle nose since '96. Causal? 
Probably not but it would make a great commercial. 

Craig in Tucson

On Saturday, December 15, 2018 at 10:43:00 PM UTC-7, nick wrote:
>
> So I'm probably relatively young for this forum. Mid 30s.  I have a few 
> aggressive bikes and my Appaloosa.  Anyway, I woke up one morning a couple 
> weeks ago in a severe pain and could barely walk.  After a couple CT scans 
> we found out it was a bulging disc in my spine.  My snowboarding and 
> cycling injuries seem to be catching up with me.  Since then I've gotten 
> enough strength back to resume a normal routine with cycling but when I go 
> on my road or cross bikes I get a ton of sciatic pain if I push too hard.  
> The Appaloosa alleviates all of that.  I get that part of these bikes now.  
> I'm just stoked I liked the form and function of Rivendells to begin with.  
>
> I was sitting in the hospital looking at Roadeos.  I have a problem.  
> Might be cheaper to buy a new stem.
>

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