[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[Nick Payne]

I have several bikes setup with 42-29 chainrings and Shimano 11-34 or 11-40 
11-speed cassettes, and I find that gearing pretty ideal for the sort of 
riding I do - usually 60-100km rides over undulating terrain.

Here's one using a pair of TA Carmina cranks with a 94BCD spider. A 107mm 
BB gives a 44mm chainline with a Q of 153mm:




Here's another using a pair of Middleburn RO2 cranks, also with 94BCD 
spider. This frame has a 386EVO bottom bracket, and the Q is 157mm.





Another using a pair of Ritchey Logic 94BCD cranks. A 98mm Phil Wood BB 
gives the correct chainline when setup as a double, and the Q is 146mm.





Nick


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[RBW] Re: Ride report: Latvia, Estonia, Finland

[dougP]

That's a great trip.  The serendipity of everything is refreshing.  So many 
people over-plan their trips & end up with a schedule & miss lots of 
opportunities.  My wife & I have rented bikes for several tours in Europe 
(just too much hassle shipping the Atlantis) and always gotten something 
perfectly serviceable that met our needs.  Never though of buying a used 
bike but that sounds a good choice.  

Read "The Cyclist who went out in the cold" by, I believe, Tim Moore 
(guessing on the author but sure on the title).  He's a mad Englishman who 
rides from Finland to Turkey via the Iron Curtain trail.  Your experience 
will make the tale relateable, & you'll congratulate yourself for not 
starting in winter.

dougP

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 8:07:17 PM UTC-8, Michael Morrissey wrote:
>
> Hi Riv-listers,
>
> This summer I took the best bicycle ride I have ever been on in my life. 
> In the last few years, I’ve made an effort to go on better vacations. Two 
> summers ago I bought a BMW GS and rode from NYC to Yellowstone and back. 
> The BMW GS has the best reputation as a travel bike, so I wanted to try 
> one. It was great, but I decided I wanted to do things a little differently 
> on the next trip. Instead of an expensive dream bike with all the farkles, 
> I decided to just get a whatever bike. One of my best friends moved to 
> Finland, and has invited me there for years, so I finally took him up on 
> it. He told me I should do a longer trip and check out some of the 
> neighboring countries, so I decided to fly into Riga, Latvia and travel to 
> Helsinki. The second I booked the trip, I started thinking “hmmm… this 
> should be a bike trip.” I thought about bringing my Rivendell, but I didn’t 
> want to risk having it stolen. It’s only 200 or so miles from Riga to 
> Helsinki, so I figured I could do it on any old bike. I emailed a bunch of 
> shops in Riga and one responded. I told them I wanted to buy a bike for 100 
> to 400 euros, and they said sure no problem, they’d hook me up for 100 
> euros with one of their old rental fleet. 
>
> I packed my bags. I brought 2 ortlieb bags, my favorite hoodie, a Brooks 
> Cambium saddle, Adidas sneakers, 1 pair of shorts, 1 pair of pants, my Giro 
> helmet, and my camera. Here’s what I didn’t bring: a sleeping bag, a tent, 
> bicycle-specific clothing, any food, a water bottle, tools, a camp stove. I 
> wanted to travel as light as possible and maybe even blend in.
>
> I got to Riga and was so excited that I could barely sleep. Also my airbnb 
> wasn’t really someone’s home, it was more of a college dorm. College kids 
> were in it, coming home at all hours. I went to the bicycle shop as soon as 
> I could. I paid 100 euros and bought the bike!
>
> They sold me an older Gazelle bicycle. It wasn’t a Rivendell - it was 
> aluminum - but it would do! It had Shimano Alivio components, 700x35 or 38 
> tires, V brakes, no fenders. It rode just fine. It even had a back rack for 
> my Ortlieb bags! I had them change the seat to my Brooks, added a 
> Rivendell-spec safety triangle, and I took off. I rode all around Riga. I 
> went to the Vespa shop, the art museum, up the Radisson building for the 
> best view of the city. It was great. I spent another day there seeing 
> everything. Then, I took off.
>
> I was so excited to ride on that first day that I woke up at 5 in the 
> morning. When I travel, my official philosophy is 
> “freestyling/freewheeling” which is a joke of mine - that I didn’t even 
> decide on what to call the not-planning-ahead. It’s not all improvisation - 
> I do browse the website Atlas Obscura. The streets seemed dead in the 
> morning. Traffic was so much lighter than what I’m used to commuting to 
> work in New York City. I went to the Bicycle Museum in Saulkrasti. It was 
> my goal to get there before it closed for the day, but I crushed the riding 
> and got there before it opened. You Rivendell fans would love it. It was 
> just the garage in the backyard of someone’s house. They collected bicycles 
> from Latvia only. They had all sorts of cool bicycles and interesting 
> parts. There was a full-suspension wooden bike made by an engineer in the 
> 1930s that looked like a 1990s mountain bike. It was great. Even their 
> collection of head-badges was amazing. I looked at everything and left to 
> keep riding. I ended up just riding and riding that day. My navigation was 
> just hotels that I had started on Google Maps. I hadn’t realized camping is 
> actually really popular there. I marked a campground called “Kemping 
> Klintas” and aimed there. I got there around 4 PM, really tired. My legs 
> were mushy and I had done around 50 miles from Riga. I felt so tired that I 
> thought someone else was going to have to lift me off of my bicycle. The 
> last 3 miles were on dirt washboard roads to the campground. 
>
> When I arrived at the campground, they told me they just had tent camping, 
> and all their cabins were full. I told th

[RBW] FS: Bullmoose threadless, Rivet, cantis, derailers, uplift

[Joe Bernard]

Bar and Klamper sold. 

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[RBW] Ride report: Latvia, Estonia, Finland

[Reid Echols]

Now that’s a ride report!

Reid in Austin

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[RBW] Ride report: Latvia, Estonia, Finland

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi Riv-listers,

This summer I took the best bicycle ride I have ever been on in my life. In 
the last few years, I’ve made an effort to go on better vacations. Two 
summers ago I bought a BMW GS and rode from NYC to Yellowstone and back. 
The BMW GS has the best reputation as a travel bike, so I wanted to try 
one. It was great, but I decided I wanted to do things a little differently 
on the next trip. Instead of an expensive dream bike with all the farkles, 
I decided to just get a whatever bike. One of my best friends moved to 
Finland, and has invited me there for years, so I finally took him up on 
it. He told me I should do a longer trip and check out some of the 
neighboring countries, so I decided to fly into Riga, Latvia and travel to 
Helsinki. The second I booked the trip, I started thinking “hmmm… this 
should be a bike trip.” I thought about bringing my Rivendell, but I didn’t 
want to risk having it stolen. It’s only 200 or so miles from Riga to 
Helsinki, so I figured I could do it on any old bike. I emailed a bunch of 
shops in Riga and one responded. I told them I wanted to buy a bike for 100 
to 400 euros, and they said sure no problem, they’d hook me up for 100 
euros with one of their old rental fleet. 

I packed my bags. I brought 2 ortlieb bags, my favorite hoodie, a Brooks 
Cambium saddle, Adidas sneakers, 1 pair of shorts, 1 pair of pants, my Giro 
helmet, and my camera. Here’s what I didn’t bring: a sleeping bag, a tent, 
bicycle-specific clothing, any food, a water bottle, tools, a camp stove. I 
wanted to travel as light as possible and maybe even blend in.

I got to Riga and was so excited that I could barely sleep. Also my airbnb 
wasn’t really someone’s home, it was more of a college dorm. College kids 
were in it, coming home at all hours. I went to the bicycle shop as soon as 
I could. I paid 100 euros and bought the bike!

They sold me an older Gazelle bicycle. It wasn’t a Rivendell - it was 
aluminum - but it would do! It had Shimano Alivio components, 700x35 or 38 
tires, V brakes, no fenders. It rode just fine. It even had a back rack for 
my Ortlieb bags! I had them change the seat to my Brooks, added a 
Rivendell-spec safety triangle, and I took off. I rode all around Riga. I 
went to the Vespa shop, the art museum, up the Radisson building for the 
best view of the city. It was great. I spent another day there seeing 
everything. Then, I took off.

I was so excited to ride on that first day that I woke up at 5 in the 
morning. When I travel, my official philosophy is 
“freestyling/freewheeling” which is a joke of mine - that I didn’t even 
decide on what to call the not-planning-ahead. It’s not all improvisation - 
I do browse the website Atlas Obscura. The streets seemed dead in the 
morning. Traffic was so much lighter than what I’m used to commuting to 
work in New York City. I went to the Bicycle Museum in Saulkrasti. It was 
my goal to get there before it closed for the day, but I crushed the riding 
and got there before it opened. You Rivendell fans would love it. It was 
just the garage in the backyard of someone’s house. They collected bicycles 
from Latvia only. They had all sorts of cool bicycles and interesting 
parts. There was a full-suspension wooden bike made by an engineer in the 
1930s that looked like a 1990s mountain bike. It was great. Even their 
collection of head-badges was amazing. I looked at everything and left to 
keep riding. I ended up just riding and riding that day. My navigation was 
just hotels that I had started on Google Maps. I hadn’t realized camping is 
actually really popular there. I marked a campground called “Kemping 
Klintas” and aimed there. I got there around 4 PM, really tired. My legs 
were mushy and I had done around 50 miles from Riga. I felt so tired that I 
thought someone else was going to have to lift me off of my bicycle. The 
last 3 miles were on dirt washboard roads to the campground. 

When I arrived at the campground, they told me they just had tent camping, 
and all their cabins were full. I told them I didn’t have a tent - was 
there any place I could stay? It was just me and my bike. They made me a 
deal that I could stay in their sauna! They had a sauna shaped like a boat 
that overlooked the Baltic sea. They gave me a blanket and a camping 
mattress, and charged me 15 euros. I didn’t bring any food, but they had a 
restaurant. I was worried I wasn’t going to find much vegetarian food and 
I’d be subsisting on cashews and apricots, but I got a huge plate of 
roasted veggies and quinoa that looked more like a “vegetarian option” at a 
wedding. It was great.

The next morning, I woke up chilly. Ironically, the sauna was cold. It was 
overcast, and I rode out of the campground. There were some dirt roads 
along the Baltic with incredible views. There were lots of old farmhouses. 
But, most of the dirt roads spit you out back to the main highway. That 
morning, almost as soon as I hit the highway, I met two ot

[RBW] Re: FS: Jay's Green touch up paint

[Adam Leibow]

Hi All,

The paint is sold. thanks for the interest. 

Adam

On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 5:19:41 PM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> Hi RBW GG,
>
> I have some Jay's green touch up paint from Waterford. Never used. I think 
> I paid like $50 for this which is wild. Please let me know if you are in 
> need. It might be complicated to ship (because it's paint) but I can always 
> try. Asking $25 and I'll split shipping w/ you. Local sale in SF also 
> available. 
>
> [image: IMG_5237.jpeg]
>
>
> Thx
> Adam
> text me 310 9636959
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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The Shimano MTB 1x11 system that came on my protoGus is ugly (the shifter 
is an aircraft carrier strapped to the handlebars wherever they happen to 
fit and be accessible, which is only one position on bullmoose or 
equivalent wavy or Jones bars) but shifts beautifully and stands up to a 
lot of abuseage, and this from a guy who loves the simplicity of fixed gear.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 5:10:38 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Curious: What's been your favorite all-round drive train on your riv(s)?
>
> I was a big fan of the Sugino 46-36-26 tripple, but wanted a narrower 
> Q-factor, and never used the granny ring. I now use a 44/30 x 11/32 which 
> is nice in some ways, but I don't get the super smooth shifting I got from 
> the original (on my 2009 Sam). In fact, i've never gotten better shifting 
> than the original Sam setup.
>
> I like the idea of Riv's double, but it's a wider Q than I want, and with 
> the big ring at just 38 teeth, I deem the top end to be a bit lacking for 
> the type of riding I do.
>
> I've thought of using their Silver 44/34/24, but again, it's a wider Q 
> than I want, and I would hardly ever use the granny.
>
> I've got indexing on another bike (Shimano 105, 11x28), and it shifts 
> flawlessly, with a narrow Q from the Velo Orange 46/30 cranks. I'm not 
> interested in going indexing on the Riv, just a data point.
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: MKS Grip King Monarch Pedals

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

And now for something completely different ... at least re the pedal 
question. My priority is the bearings and comfort underfoot at hight 
pressure. I'm hard on bearings. Rocks, roots, and stupid wet, muddy, snowy, 
freezing, sludgy riding will do that. VPs lasted me a matter of months and 
generally didn't repair well for me. MKS cone and bearing pedals last me a 
year and can be greased well for another year. But MKS cartridge pedals 
have lasted beautifully so far, beyond a year and counting, so they are my 
preference. My experience has been stack height is not a material factor. I 
personally do not like the feel of the pedal shape of the Grip Kings 
underfoot (my forefoot is my widest part of my foot, the narrowest part of 
the pedal, so the GK's have great fore/aft stability, minimal lateral 
stability for me). MKS All Ways pedals are a delight, as are their touring 
pedals. If riding in the snow, touring pedals win, as pressure on the pedal 
increases grip and discards snow, whereas most pedals it compresses the 
snow into ice and renders them unridable until chipped off ... not fun at 
temps near zero. Note: I ride fixed gear, no retention, on both All Ways 
and Touring pedals, and my Gus has some stupid amount of gears and I ride 
touring pedals for it. They just handle the bashing and crashing and 
freezing and thawing and muddy mucky wet wonderfully.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 2:49:00 PM UTC-7, John Bokman wrote:
>
> Curious if anyone has the newer of the Grip Kings: the "Monarch". I've 
> been riding VP Vice for a few years after weaning myself off Speedplay 
> Frogs, and am rather annoyed at chewing up my shoes from the sharp pins. 
> Also don't feel I need the width of the VPs. Always looking for ways to get 
> Riv some money, I thought I might try these. However, I'm also curious 
> about the MKS Allways  pedalsI'd prefer a low stack height, so VPs look 
> to be the winner in that category
>

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Re: [RBW] Favorite All-around Drive train?

[john Bokman]

Paul, it’s an 8-speed cassette. Sram.

> On Nov 24, 2019, at 6:18 PM, PaulS  wrote:
> 
> Is the 11-32 a 9-Sp cassette? Try an 11-Sp. I find the spacing just fine. Of 
> course, I never really had much complaints about wide range 9-sp either. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Grip King Monarch Pedals

[john Bokman]

Thanks for the stats.  They look pretty nice. May have to try some. Like 
everything Riv sells, I’m sure they will last, so even if I don’t take to them, 
I can throw them on my wife or kid’s bikes and be set for years.

> On Nov 24, 2019, at 6:34 PM, The Snag  wrote:
> 
> I don't notice a huge difference but I also use the two bikes differently, 
> the MKS are on a MTB rig so cornering is not as noticeable. I measure the 
> main platform of the Monarch at 17mm, more like 22mm with the bumps but 
> that's not going to affect how tight a turn you can make. VP's website calls 
> theirs 16mm, but they taper a bit towards the edge. For reference, the 
> original MKS grip king's platform is 22mm, they seem noticeably thicker than 
> the Monarch. 
> 
> Again, out of the three I think that the Monarch is the superior pedal. 
> Width, thickness, length, they just feel right. 
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[RBW] Re: MKS Grip King Monarch Pedals

[The Snag]

I don't notice a huge difference but I also use the two bikes differently, 
the MKS are on a MTB rig so cornering is not as noticeable. I measure the 
main platform of the Monarch at 17mm, more like 22mm with the bumps but 
that's not going to affect how tight a turn you can make. VP's website 
calls theirs 16mm, but they taper a bit towards the edge. For reference, 
the original MKS grip king's platform is 22mm, they seem noticeably thicker 
than the Monarch. 

Again, out of the three I think that the Monarch is the superior pedal. 
Width, thickness, length, they just feel right. 

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[RBW] Re: Favorite All-around Drive train?

[aeroperf]

To answer your question, my Sam came with a Sugino double 40-26, and what I 
ended up with was 46-36-26 on a 110 BB with 11-34 cassette.

But regarding front cranks, you can always build your own.
You can still buy an XD2 compact crank, if you liked that, both the double 
and the triple.  Nashbar, ModernBike and others still stock them.
And you can always get different chainrings.

If you want a narrower Q, change the bottom bracket.  Pull the crank arms 
and measure the bottom bracket you have.  Buy the next size down BB-UN55 
and have your friendly local bike shop install it.
It should be about $25 for the new BB and $25 for the shop.

Just bear in mind that a Riv chainline is typically in between a mountain 
bike and a road bike.  So any given road crank installed on a Riv wants to 
live just slightly wider than if installed on a road bike.  It seems to be 
the nature of the design.


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Re: [RBW] Favorite All-around Drive train?

[PaulS]

Is the 11-32 a 9-Sp cassette? Try an 11-Sp. I find the spacing just fine. Of 
course, I never really had much complaints about wide range 9-sp either. 

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[RBW] FS: Bullmoose threadless, Rivet, cantis, derailers, uplift

[Joe Bernard]

I got new stuff that came in boxes, I got other stuff I don't need that could 
go in those dang boxes I'm tripping over around here. Let's sell some stuff in 
boxes! All prices plus shipping. 

1. Carradice uplift thingy that mounts to saddle rails. It has a name we all 
know which I inexplicably can't think of right now, $30

2. Nitto Bullmoose threadless, will look smashing on your new Gus, $80

3. Shimano BR550 cantis, marketed as 105 level to work well with road STI, I 
used them with those thin-blade Tektro mtb levers, Kool Stop pads with life 
left, $30 
(maybe can bundle with the levers, too, I forgot to take a pic of those)

4. Shimano Deore fd, 34.9 with 31.8 shim, bottom pull, $5

5. Barely used Rivet saddle with cutout, don't know model name. Was sold to me 
for crazy money as ti rail but nah, it's steel. My loss cuz I didn't tell the 
guy I overpaid whaddyagonnado, $90

6. Shimano XT 8-speed era rd, the 739 model and finest XT ever, used and 
scuffed but still pretty cuz look at it!, $20

7. Microshift "8-speed" fd, 31.8, $5

8. For reasons I can't remember I have one Paul Klamper long pull with pads, $80
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jsn5UAu34vTZFSK79

Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

joeremi62 gmail com
Text 415 786 4623

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Re: [RBW] Favorite All-around Drive train?

[john Bokman]

Joe, I have never tried Silver cranks. I think I have a 113mm bottom bracket if 
I recall correctly (2009 Sam set up for Sugino triple).

> On Nov 24, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever ridden a bike with Silvers? I've owned two and my feet missed 
> the pedals 50% of the time on a 110mm BB. They're narrow! 
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[RBW] Favorite All-around Drive train?

[Joe Bernard]

Have you ever ridden a bike with Silvers? I've owned two and my feet missed the 
pedals 50% of the time on a 110mm BB. They're narrow! 

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[RBW] Favorite All-around Drive train?

[John Bokman]

Curious: What's been your favorite all-round drive train on your riv(s)?

I was a big fan of the Sugino 46-36-26 tripple, but wanted a narrower 
Q-factor, and never used the granny ring. I now use a 44/30 x 11/32 which 
is nice in some ways, but I don't get the super smooth shifting I got from 
the original (on my 2009 Sam). In fact, i've never gotten better shifting 
than the original Sam setup.

I like the idea of Riv's double, but it's a wider Q than I want, and with 
the big ring at just 38 teeth, I deem the top end to be a bit lacking for 
the type of riding I do.

I've thought of using their Silver 44/34/24, but again, it's a wider Q than 
I want, and I would hardly ever use the granny.

I've got indexing on another bike (Shimano 105, 11x28), and it shifts 
flawlessly, with a narrow Q from the Velo Orange 46/30 cranks. I'm not 
interested in going indexing on the Riv, just a data point.


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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I can not recommend the Copenhagen wheel enough for any Riv application.
Joe was correct I initially had my NOS purchased single speed on my Quickbeam.  
My personal experience was it extended my SS rides into 35-40 miles vs mid 
20’s.  I personally have left it in ECO mode after one experimentation with the 
other boost modes.  While riding it just feels like a continuous tailwind of 
sorts.  Mostly noticed while taking off from stops or attempting accelerations 
for any occasion.
It has now been moved onto a 68cm Bombadil and performs just as magnificently.
Looking to pick up a 26 inch multigeared one to go on my wife’s 53cm Atlantis 
to potentially lengthen the distance we cover on 90 minute -2hrs rides together.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: Frame for sale

[JohnS]

I have the same bike (except I have the original fork and front rack). It's 
great and very Riv like. I think of it as my geared Quick Beam. Sure it's 
not lugged, but otherwise it's got a lot going for it. 

JohnS

On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 8:57:20 AM UTC-5, PaulS wrote:
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> Love those old Salsa’s! Great price as well. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Joe Bernard]

That's an average range for most ebikes, and can be stretched considerably on 
the Copenhagen with judicious use of the Eco and 0 settings. One of the things 
I like about it on my Riv is it still pedals like a Riv, I can ride with very 
little assistance on flats and click it off completely for descents. 

That said, I *am* an urban rider. If you really want to tour with juice on a 
Riv you need a system that accepts switching batteries mid-ride. 

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Howard Hatten]

Thanks for the heads up on this price max. I’ve been on the fence but this 
price forced my hand. Just ordered. 

Howard
Livonia mi. 

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[RBW] Re: MKS Grip King Monarch Pedals

[John Bokman]

Thanks for the reply.
Do you notice a big diff with stack height between the Monarch and VP? I 
can't find info on the MKS site or elsewhere regarding height of the pedal.

On Saturday, November 23, 2019 at 4:42:30 PM UTC-8, The Snag wrote:
>
> I have the Monarch, the VPs, and the older style grip king. Out of the 3 I 
> like the Monarch the best, they have a nice platform that my feet feet 
> locked in on. If you're worried about tearing up your shoes you could take 
> out the pins and I think they'd still be very supportive. If you're curious 
> about them I'd say go for it, I don't think you'll be disappointed. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Steve Palincsar]

IIRC the maximum range on the Copenhagen Wheel is 30 miles.  That 
doesn't compare well with most e-assist bikes, and while that might be a 
fine range for an urban commuter, Rivs can be so much more.


On 11/24/19 4:58 PM, somervillebikes wrote:
Superpedestrian is a local company, and I see their wheels all over 
town, usually on bikes that blow past me :). I've seen them on nice 
road bikes and on clunky salvaged 10-speeds. I agree they need to 
start offering these in 650B. 20" would be great, too, if they'd fit-- 
I'd throw one on my Bike Friday Haul-a-Day in a heartbeat.


Anton "feeling a bit slow" Tutter
velolumino.com



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:15 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:

I think that every Rivendell bike can be elegantly electrified
with a Red Copenhagen wheel.
I have ridden one on multiple occasions (miss you Amit) and feel
that it provides the best of both worlds.

That said their are so many different e-bikes on the market
currently that it is hard to compare apples to apples when
discussing pros and cons of each.

Joe excited to see how you like the Copenhagen conversion compared
to your previous Riv e-bike experimentations.




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Alexandria, Virginia
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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[somervillebikes]

Superpedestrian is a local company, and I see their wheels all over town, 
usually on bikes that blow past me :). I've seen them on nice road bikes 
and on clunky salvaged 10-speeds. I agree they need to start offering these 
in 650B. 20" would be great, too, if they'd fit-- I'd throw one on my Bike 
Friday Haul-a-Day in a heartbeat.

Anton "feeling a bit slow" Tutter
velolumino.com



On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 11:47:15 PM UTC-4, Abcyclehank wrote:
>
> I think that every Rivendell bike can be elegantly electrified with a Red 
> Copenhagen wheel.
> I have ridden one on multiple occasions (miss you Amit) and feel that it 
> provides the best of both worlds.  
>
> That said their are so many different e-bikes on the market currently that 
> it is hard to compare apples to apples when discussing pros and cons of 
> each.
>
> Joe excited to see how you like the Copenhagen conversion compared to your 
> previous Riv e-bike experimentations.
>
> Sincerely,
> Ryan Hankinson
> West Michigan
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brake Levers! Brakes, Crankset, Seatpost,

[Tim Bantham]

Shipping to lower 48 please.

Tim

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 3:56:55 PM UTC-5, Tim Bantham wrote:
>
> *Parts bin clean out:*
>
> *All prices include shipping costs. Prefer PayPal net to me. *
>
>
> *Click here for photos *
>
> *Brake Levers*
>
> *1) New Dia-Compe SS-6 for sidepull, Centerpull and Canti brakes NOT for V 
> Brakes  $40 *
> *2) Used Sunrace Mountain Linear Pull for V-Brakes $20*
> *3) Used Shimano sidepull, Centerpull $30*
> *4) Used Shimano Tiagara Road Levers $30*
>
> *Brakes*
>
> *Used Tektro R559 Side Pulls $50 for the pair*
>
> *Shifters*
>
> *Used Silver Bar End Shifters $50 for the pair*
>
> *Crankset*
>
> *Used Sugino X2 48x34 175 mm crank arms. $100*
>
> *Stem *
>
> *Used Nitto Tallux 8cm 26.0 Clamp  $50*
>
> *Seatpost*
>
> *New Kaloi 26.8 $30*
>
> *Disc Rotors*
>
> *Used Hope 180 MM $30*
> *Used Hope 160 MM $30*
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[Patrick Moore]

A Rivendell custom? I missed the thread. What sort of bike? Please post
photos when delivered and built.

On Sun, Nov 24, 2019 at 12:58 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> ... my custom is at Joe Bell's shop.

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[RBW] FS: Brake Levers! Brakes, Crankset, Seatpost,

[Tim Bantham]

*Parts bin clean out:*

*All prices include shipping costs. Prefer PayPal net to me. *


*Click here for photos *

*Brake Levers*

*1) New Dia-Compe SS-6 for sidepull, Centerpull and Canti brakes NOT for V 
Brakes  $40 *
*2) Used Sunrace Mountain Linear Pull for V-Brakes $20*
*3) Used Shimano sidepull, Centerpull $30*
*4) Used Shimano Tiagara Road Levers $30*

*Brakes*

*Used Tektro R559 Side Pulls $50 for the pair*

*Shifters*

*Used Silver Bar End Shifters $50 for the pair*

*Crankset*

*Used Sugino X2 48x34 175 mm crank arms. $100*

*Stem *

*Used Nitto Tallux 8cm 26.0 Clamp  $50*

*Seatpost*

*New Kaloi 26.8 $30*

*Disc Rotors*

*Used Hope 180 MM $30*
*Used Hope 160 MM $30*


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 2007 Atlantis

[Tom Horton]

Max thanks for the update and for restoring the atlantis to life

I ve got two  the 2007 vintage and now a taiwan model  very different machines  
partly due to size  the old obes a 68 and new one s a 62  i am using the mit 
atlantis with 60 mm tires as a mostly trail bike  it is a bit more maneuverable 
 but would never give up the big one for my touring   

Enjoy   Tom h

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 20, 2019, at 12:11 PM, maxcr  wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 12:11:12 PM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>> I just got back from Harris Cyclery where they built the Atlantis (I could 
>> rant about how they have sadly declined as a Riv dealer / bike shop, but I 
>> won’t do that here).
>> 
>> 6 miles in and after a couple of adjustments to the saddle, handlebars and 
>> fenders which were rubbing, I’m loving it! It was mostly flat pavement, a 
>> bit of dirt and a small rocky down slope which it handled beautifully. What 
>> an amazing bike, seriously! Photo attached as promised.
>> 
>> Looking forward to many more miles of joy.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Max
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, July 24, 2019 at 10:10:45 AM UTC-4, maxcr wrote:
>>> So... I just closed the deal and sent payment for Mark's 2007 Toyo 
>>> Atlantis! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tom, thanks for posting here and making the connection. I can't wait to 
>>> unbox this new-to-me (and almost new overall) bike and start riding it. I 
>>> always loved the original Atlantis, but back then it was way beyond my 
>>> budget to get a new one. I've been to Walnut creek twice, but never rode 
>>> one so I can't wait to feel the classic Riv ride that everyone raved about 
>>> back then. Based on the numbers I got from Tom, I think I'm getting a 61cm 
>>> but I find it strange that the elves at Riv would've spec'd that size for a 
>>> 5'10" rider, 61cm or 58cm... we'll see.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My plan is to make it my fendered year round commuter with some Compass 
>>> Snoqualmie pass tires that I have waiting for it. This should allow me to 
>>> also use it daily and also on longer rides and S24Os during the weekends. 
>>> I'll post some photos when I have it all set up.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> With all of this, I'm thinking of selling one or two bikes to fund the new 
>>> toy and make space. Probably my black and cream 2TT 62 Sam Hillborne will 
>>> be the first to go since the Atlantis is replacing it functionally (also I 
>>> never got really comfortable with noodles on the expanded frame. I'm 5'11" 
>>> with a tall pbh, so I barely straddle it and even with a short stem the top 
>>> tube feels very long for me. I just got a Billie bar to try on it to bring 
>>> the handlebar closer but it probably doesn't make sense to set it up at 
>>> this point).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> After that, I'll consider whether to put my 62 SimpleOne or my 61 waterford 
>>> AHH up for sale. Maybe later this year. That's going to be an interesting 
>>> decision, I don't think I want to get rid of either but if that Riv 
>>> anniversary bike ever happens, I will need to ;)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ride on.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Max
>>> 
>>> On Monday, July 22, 2019 at 9:23:50 AM UTC-4, Tom Horton wrote:
>>> 
>>> months back I posted about my friend mark's 2007 toyo built atlantis, 
>>> purchased fully equipped by Riv to ride cross country. never happened. 
>>> bike's got maybe three miles on it, been in storage ever since.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> asking 2000 or make an offer. mark will have to take to LBS to disassemble 
>>> and ship, so 2K plus shipping/make offer. bike is in baltimore and we could 
>>> meet halfway if you're in the region.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> it's either a 60 or a 59 cm frame. I measured 24 inches from center of 
>>> crank to top of seat tube. top tube was 21.7 inches. 700c wheels
>>> 
>>> 
>>> phil rear cassette hub, 9 speeds
>>> schmidt generator hub and lumotec headlamp. I spun the front wheel at the 
>>> storage unit and did not see any light. this was pre LED headlamps
>>> carmina cranks, Paul cantis, chris king headset, axiom front rack, nitto 
>>> rear, brooks b17 saddle, stainless fenders
>>> 
>>> 
>>> all this is 2007/2008 vintage. mark just told Riv to set it up right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> schwalbe marathon supreme tires, about 40 something mm   maybe still good 
>>> as they've not seen any sunlight.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> email me or mark. he is not on this site.  reutt...@yahoo.com
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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[Joe Bernard]

Ryan "Abcyclehank" has one on his Quickbeam. 

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[Joe Bernard]

Hehe, I'm out, Karl. I just sold an AR I only owned a minute, am juggling two 
Clems at the moment and my custom is at Joe Bell's shop. 

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[Karl]

Joe,

Bought it for a backup yet? Looks just about your size! ;)

Karl
Nashville, TN

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jay's Green touch up paint

[Drw]

Also interested if John backs out

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[RBW] Re: Copenhagen wheel Rivs vs ebike

[maxcr]

For anyone who has been looking for an opportunity to try the Copenhagen 
wheel, I just got a black Friday email from them offering the wheel for 
$995 (it was $1,100 after tax and shipping).

Use code: HOMEFORTHEHOLIDAYS

I tried out a couple of years ago and was impressed with how intuitive it 
felt. Since then, I've been thinking about one of these and finally went 
for it today. I'll probably install it on my Atlantis - hope that's not 
heresy! The idea is to make winter commuting a bit shorter to keep riding 
through Jan/Feb here in Boston.

Anyone else tried the wheel on something other than a Clem, an All-Rounder 
or a Rosco?

Max

On Friday, September 20, 2019 at 4:22:22 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's been on the market a couple years, after a rather long gestation 
> period with numerous delays. There have been no major updates as of now, a 
> lot of that got done in those delays. 

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder on ebay

[ctifusion]

That Mavic crankset, and the rest of the build is great too. Too small for 
me.

Brynnar

On Sunday, November 24, 2019 at 1:16:03 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> It's interesting to see it out there. It appeared here a couple years ago, 
> then was abruptly pulled. 

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[RBW] Re: New vs. old Homer geometry, ride characteristics

[tc]

Luis, thanks for posting.  I'm gonna try this extra cork grip idea.  I had 
seen this video by Dan Stroud  a while ago, 
where he moved his brake levers fwd of the 'normal' position for the 
Albatross bar.  (But he extended his grip area with what looks like small 
sections of ESI grips).  Thanks for the reminder!

Tom

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 5:42:24 PM UTC-5, Luis Garcia wrote:
>
> ...You may also notice the extra long punched and grooved cork grips. I 
> took two sets of the grips and shortened them a bit to make one extra long 
> set of grips.  I like my brake levers mounted further forward on my swept 
> back bars. This makes me feel more stable when braking while going fast 
> down a hill than when mounted in the more traditional position.  I 
> wanted/needed more cork to grip! ... 
>
> Luis
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Rambouillet complete or frame set

[Matt Beecher]

I sent a pm about stand over. I wish this were a 58, so if someone wants to 
trade their 58 for a larger size, let me know. 

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Jeff Bogdanovich]

Thanks Eric, I plan to hold out for something popping up on the used market - 
I’m guessing about the time those hillibikes start shipping. What made you sell 
the two H’s?

On Nov 24, 2019, at 8:28 AM, Eric Daume  wrote:

Just be patient. Having bought and sold two 59cm Clem Hs, they seem to go for 
about $900 complete or about half that for the frameset. They don’t hold their 
value especially well, and they’re out there.

Eric

On Sunday, November 24, 2019, Jeffrey B 
mailto:jeffbogdanov...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks Tom, I actually contacted Bluelug about that exact frame earlier this 
week and they said they don’t ship frames/bikes because of the shipping damage 
risk. Then I checked the exchange rate and thought “I like mustard, but not 
THAT much”. The search continues...

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Re: [RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Eric Daume]

Just be patient. Having bought and sold two 59cm Clem Hs, they seem to go
for about $900 complete or about half that for the frameset. They don’t
hold their value especially well, and they’re out there.

Eric

On Sunday, November 24, 2019, Jeffrey B  wrote:

> Thanks Tom, I actually contacted Bluelug about that exact frame earlier
> this week and they said they don’t ship frames/bikes because of the
> shipping damage risk. Then I checked the exchange rate and thought “I like
> mustard, but not THAT much”. The search continues...
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[RBW] Re: Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Jeffrey B]

Thanks Tom, I actually contacted Bluelug about that exact frame earlier this 
week and they said they don’t ship frames/bikes because of the shipping damage 
risk. Then I checked the exchange rate and thought “I like mustard, but not 
THAT much”. The search continues...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Mike Williams]

Interesting that blue lug would sell it for $1270 USD.   Weren’t most Clem 
framesets in the $900 range?

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> On Nov 24, 2019, at 8:06 AM, tc  wrote:
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> Jeff, I know you want a complete ... but I see that Blue Lug as a 59 Mustard 
> Clem H F/F/H/BB for US $1270.25.  They do ship internationally.
> https://store.bluelug.com/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-frame-set-h-style-mustard.html
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[RBW] Re: Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[tc]

Jeff, I know you want a complete ... but I see that Blue Lug as a 59 
Mustard Clem H F/F/H/BB for US $1270.25.  They do ship internationally.
https://store.bluelug.com/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-frame-set-h-style-mustard.html

Tom

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[RBW] Wanted - 59cm Clem H

[Jeffrey B]

Still looking for a mustard 59cm complete (stock build). Any leads out there? 
Thanks!

Jeff

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[RBW] Re: How to make your own saddle bag quick release for $1.00. This also works for sprung saddles.

[Nick Payne]

This is what I did to attach a Goldback Niño saddlebag to a Berthoud 
saddle. The straps on the Niño were too far apart to fit the slots in the 
frame of the saddle, so I zip-tied a piece of 15mm diameter "carbon fibre" 
tubing (given how cheap it was, I strongly suspect it's actually 
fibreglass) to the slots in the saddle frame and the straps on the 
saddlebag attach outside those. The saddlebag can't move sideways in either 
direction, so the piece of tubing only had to be a few millimetres longer 
than the minimum length needed:




Nick

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