Re: [RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

Thanks Patrick!

I'm in Singapore.

The brake levers are Riv's long standing favourite Shimano Tiagras (they 
went by another name when I bought them). The hoods wore off a long time 
ago and I could never find replacements. I don't know if it happens in 
temperate climates, but in warm and humid climates, the rubber tends to 
melt. 

I used a file to smoothen the sharp metal edges before wrapping them in 
twine. The twine is comfortable on long rides with gloves, I think there 
would be chaffing without.

Saddlebag is a Carradice zipped roll bag. I have a Sackville banana sack on 
the way.


On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:34:26 AM UTC+8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Nice, Paul. You said "international orders;" where are you?
>
> I like the "make do" build, particularly the twined brake lever bodies. 
> Are those EX brake levers? I'll have to remember that for my pair, without 
> hoods, and hoods impossible to come by. Also for the 7410 levers, once my 
> (expensive!) stash of extra hoods is used up. I take it -- if you ride that 
> bike on brevets -- that the twine does not chafe the web between forefinger 
> and thumb?
>
> And kudos on the tail light wire, from someone who is far too obsessive 
> about such things.
>
> Caradice Junior?
>
>

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Re: [RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[Joe Bernard]

I love that someone made a Three Little Pigs book out of a chainlink fence. 
That's amazing! ♥️

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[Joe Bernard]

Good call! I always have reading glasses on anyway so I'm good there. 

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[RBW] Re: Tool for fender stays

[tuolumne bikes]

I've been able to cut them with bolt cutters without having to mark the 
stays and remove the fenders. For SKS, they get covered with the rubber 
tips, so I don't file them. But if you use bolt cutters, please wear 
glasses. I've had the cut ends shoot clear across the room.

Carl

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 2:03:47 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> This is a really dumb question but I don't know the answer. I need to 
> mount some fenders on my Frank Jones and y'all seem to use a big cutting 
> tool for trimming the stays..which one do I buy? I have a Dremel and tried 
> that once, but it was an ear-splitting hot mess. I just want to lop off the 
> ends. 

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[RBW] ISO Silca ** non-Ultimate** Impero, Silver, for 52 1/2 cm space beneath top tube

[Patrick Moore]

I can't find real Impero online; am I right in thinking that this is no
longer made? For shame.

Does anyone have one of the real ones FS or FT? Mine is VG and 49 cm long
between longest end of handle and very end of barrel, not including head; I
need about 4 cm more -- or, for those of you more knowledgeable than I
about the Impero's sizing categories, I need one to fit a 52 1/2 cm space
underneath the top tube.

Happy to trade my 49 for yours in **silver**; or if you can't see beyond
money, tell me how much you want for yours in **silver** one in VG
condition. Head not included; nor do I need one.

The recent thread on frame pumps with hoses reminded me that the Impero is
actually a lot better for my mid-pressure-range Elk Passes than the HpX,
and I just bought another valve core tool so that, if the valve gets
blocked with sealant -- the Lezyne Road Drive can push through blockages,
the Impero can't -- I can remover and clean.

I'd put the 49 cm back on the Matthews, which has a head tube bump, but
I've installed a frame bag under the tt.

Thanks.

Thanks.

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Re: [RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Patrick Moore]

Nice, Paul. You said "international orders;" where are you?

I like the "make do" build, particularly the twined brake lever bodies. Are
those EX brake levers? I'll have to remember that for my pair, without
hoods, and hoods impossible to come by. Also for the 7410 levers, once my
(expensive!) stash of extra hoods is used up. I take it -- if you ride that
bike on brevets -- that the twine does not chafe the web between forefinger
and thumb?

And kudos on the tail light wire, from someone who is far too obsessive
about such things.

Caradice Junior?

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:05 PM Paul Y  wrote:

> John G mentioned that he likes seeing Roadeos setup for brevets, inspiring
> this post.
>
> There are not a lot of pictures of Roadeo setups available generally, so I
> wanted to share these photos to help anyone considering a Roadeo for just
> this purpose, which is why I bought mine.
>
> At the time, I was considering a L'Avecaise. However, Jeff informed me
> that he was not taking international orders. This Roadeo frame soon popped
> up on this list.
>
> This bike is lovely - it does everything I want a road bike to do, but
> with Rivendell level of comfort. It has been an almost daily rider for a
> few years, and done a couple of 200k brevets.
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/yV4rA3URRXyaqG3U7
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[Dan McNamara]

I have a couple of friends in Bend who may be able to help. Let me know if you 
need someone on the ground. 

Dan

San Rafael CA

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:40 PM, J L  wrote:
> 
> I like your enthusiasm Joe!!
> 
> Bend is a beautiful place, party because it is 6 hours away from anywhere 
> else. 
> 
> I’ll see what the seller says on the phone. 
> 
> Jason
> 
>> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh man, I saw it. Check RC Nute for help, or John Bennett. Or maybe you'll 
>> get lucky and the seller will ship. That's a rare beast in that condition, 
>> sheesh! 
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[RBW] Photos of my Roadeo, set up for brevets

[Paul Y]

John G mentioned that he likes seeing Roadeos setup for brevets, inspiring 
this post.

There are not a lot of pictures of Roadeo setups available generally, so I 
wanted to share these photos to help anyone considering a Roadeo for just 
this purpose, which is why I bought mine. 

At the time, I was considering a L'Avecaise. However, Jeff informed me that 
he was not taking international orders. This Roadeo frame soon popped up on 
this list.

This bike is lovely - it does everything I want a road bike to do, but with 
Rivendell level of comfort. It has been an almost daily rider for a few 
years, and done a couple of 200k brevets.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/yV4rA3URRXyaqG3U7

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[RBW] Hemp twine Bay Area

[Joe Bernard]

Eric, PM sent, I can't track down your number to text. I found a roll of twine 
which I PMed about, then realized I have a whole shellack-and-twine kit Riv 
sold for a while. Holla at me!

Joe Bernard
Text 415 786 4623

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[RBW] Re: Intro to Group!! Toyo AHH

[Craig Montgomery]

Hey Garrett,
 Great looking bike. The blue/cream combo is nothing short of elegant. 
Once saw an original Duesenberg with the same color scheme, Blue body with 
cream fenders, and if it's on a Duesenberg it's gotta be cool.  Now some 
advice from a grumpy old fart who's done a lotta touring. Your Homer can 
easily handle a camping load. There's nothing wrong with the frame or a 
rear load (though you should always balance front and rear, don't do rear 
only). It's the rack.The struts are too long, thin and not triangulated. No 
wonder the load was trying to do the driving. Get yourself a real touring 
rack and you're headed for the high country. And you don't have to go all 
out and get a Nitto Big Rack or Tubus Cosmo or somesuch. There are some 
perfectly good heavy duty racks for half the price. Salsa, Soma, Topeak, 
Tor Tec. There's a bunch that'll handle the job. I just don't want you to 
be discouraged over what you may view as a defect in the bike. 

Craig in Tucson 

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:04:57 AM UTC-7, Garrett Berkey wrote:
>
> Hello! I am new to the group and thought I would share my Toyo AHH with 
> everyone. I have done a couple camping trips with rear panniers, and the 
> frame really didn't like the weight back there (the flex through the frame 
> while at a good speed and pedaling was scary). I even towed my dog when he 
> was a puppy! He weighs 45lbs now so I am going to spare the Homer of 
> pulling him. I decided to take the rear rack off and enjoy it as a rando 
> bike. I love how confident this bike feels at speed on either smooth tarmac 
> or a bumpy gravel descent. There are fewer and fewer people with rim brakes 
> on the gravel rides, but this A Homer Hilsen will do just fine for a long 
> time to come. 
>
> Nitto Noodle, TRP Levers, Silver Long Reach Brakes, Phil Wood Hubs F/R, 
> 2x7sp. Sugino XD Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto S83, Ultegra Headset + BB, Nitto 
> Mark's Rack, Acorn Bags (just in case people were curious) 
>

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[RBW] Hemp twine Bay Area

[Eric G@rs]

I am looking for some hemp twine to re-wrap my handlebars and Riv is all 
out. Does anyone know where to find some in the Bay Area or have any that 
they'd like to sell to me? Lowes has jute twine, but it is pretty thick and 
scratchy. I live in the mission in SF, but willing to drive to the east bay 
or peninsula to get it. 

Eric G@rs
SF

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[RBW] Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Yes indeed, Ryan, a Copenhagen Wheel would I think be a perfect match. Now they 
just need to make a 650B version for mine! 

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[RBW] Joe's Custom

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow oh Wow 朗.

This exceeds even my high standards.  This has me itching to bribe Grant to 
produce a 68cm custom of my own (for me) currently own a used RBW Blue one I 
found; if I do I am
Going to steal Joe’s color combo.
I can imaging that a Copenhagen wheel would nearly match perfectly also.  
So pretty so classy so Joe 藍

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Joe's Custom

[Carla Waugh]

Beautiful!!!

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[RBW] Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"You also get to have your initials on the chainstay:-)"

YES! 

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[RBW] Joe's Custom

[RichS]

Joe,

You also get to have your initials on the chainstay:-)

Rich in ATL

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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

I like your enthusiasm Joe!!

Bend is a beautiful place, party because it is 6 hours away from anywhere else. 

I’ll see what the seller says on the phone. 

Jason

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:30 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Oh man, I saw it. Check RC Nute for help, or John Bennett. Or maybe you'll 
> get lucky and the seller will ship. That's a rare beast in that condition, 
> sheesh! 
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[RBW] Re: In Praise of the Roadini

[Bruce Smitham]

I just pre-ordered a 54cm Orange Roadini from Rivendell. I've had only 1 
bike for the last 3 years (Salsa Fargo Ti with Jones bars and Schwalbe 
G-One 27.5 x 2.8 tires) 1 x 11 XT drivetrain and dropper post. I can ride 
it all day long in any terrain and love it. So this is a big deal for me. I 
looked at the Crust Bombora and BMC Road+ but ultimately decided on a Riv. 
Feels good and looking forward to building it up when it arrives.

Bruce in San Diego
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 6:56:29 PM UTC-7, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadini frameset a over a year ago and finally got around to 
> building it up during the crisis.  As a father of small children, my time 
> to ride outside of family rides and commuting is limited, so I was hesitant 
> to put money into a road bike.  I couldn't be more glad that I did.
>
> The bike is the most unaggressive-aggressive bike I have owned.  It has a 
> terrific riding position (I have a 90 pbh and bought the 61 to be on a 
> "bigger" bike and it was a good choice), and I feel like I am in the bike 
> as opposed to feeling like a rock in a slingshot.  It does everything a 
> road bike should do, and I don't get off feeling beaten by the road.  
> Anyhow, thanks to Grant for making a bike unlike any other bike brand 
> today.  I'm proud to be a two Riv garage (I have a Hunq also).
>
> Build:
> Nitto Ui-12 31.8 Stem
> Salsa Woodchipper Bars 46cm
> Dura Ace 7400 Cranks (49/39)
> Dura Ace 7700 Bar Ends
> Sram 11-34 9 speed Cassette
> Deore 9 RD
> Sora FD
> Mavic CXP 33s Laced To CK Classics
> Schwalbe One 28s
> Berthoud Saddle
>
>
> I'll get a pic up soon.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

I am a fan of gray! I really do think grilver is one of the best colors RBW 
ever created. My teenager’s little Clem is so regal - and even more so how he’s 
got it adorned - monochromatically. I usually like a lot of pizazz, but the 
grilver stands on its own. 

I also love the RBW blue that Roberta references (I have it on my Clementine), 
mostly because it refuses to be just one hue and is an array of sparkly 
blues/greens. RBW got that one right, too.

But I LOVE red, and I think it looks great put with the dove gray in this 
custom.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> "Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have 
> been singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER."
> 
> It's true. I'm not saying Our Bicycle Belle also convinced me of the 
> qualities of gray/silver, but I'm not saying she DIDN'T 
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[Joe Bernard]

Oh man, I saw it. Check RC Nute for help, or John Bennett. Or maybe you'll get 
lucky and the seller will ship. That's a rare beast in that condition, sheesh! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"It's a really nice color combination and I love how the white pinstripe sets 
off the dark bold red from the understated and lovely dove grey. 

I'm looking forward to seeing the entire bike!"

Thanks, Roberta! The pinstripe is amazing isn't it? I'm so excited, I can't 
wait to see it live in person! 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have been 
singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER."

It's true. I'm not saying Our Bicycle Belle also convinced me of the qualities 
of gray/silver, but I'm not saying she DIDN'T 

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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

I’ve always liked retro bikes. ;) 

Green is the best color option, tied with orange and light grey. 

I haven't even called the seller yet so I may not need assistance but these are 
rare beasts... err bushes.

Jason

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 2:15 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Get that Quickbeam, Jason!
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[RBW] Re: Ritchey WCS Compact Road Crankset 170mm

[Touriste-Routier]

As some of you may know, Ritchey had a recall of the left crankarm on this
WCS & Pro model crankset:



https://us.ritcheylogic.com/media/magefan_blog/2013/05/3555_Ritchey_Crank_Recall_2008_v0411.pdf



I forgot to mention that the left crankarm has already been replaced under
the recall; the date code on the replacement arm is 0712


Brian Ignatin

Pineville, PA  USA


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:08 PM Touriste-Routier 
wrote:

> These appear to have been mounted (grease on pedal threads and splines),
> but there doesn’t appear to be any signs of use on the Chainrings.
>
>
>
>- 170mm Crankarm length
>- 110mm BCD
>- 9/16 x 20tpi pedal threading
>
>
>- 50 x 34t chainrings
>- Original Box included
>- Sold As-Is
>
>
>
> When used on most standard road frames, this crank requires a Shimano
> Octalink V1 109.5 mm Bottom Bracket (not included)
>
>
>
> More Photos Here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/q6jqunVTt8ZyZzjWA
>
> Additional Photos upon Request
>
>
>
> $135.00 OBO, including shipping in the Continental US; subsidized shipping
> elsewhere.
>
>
> Please reply directly to touriste.rout...@gmail.com as I'm on the digest
> for these forums.
>
>
> Brian Ignatin
>
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[Joe Bernard]

Get that Quickbeam, Jason!

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[RBW] Re: Fancy Cheviot!

[Roberta]

Thanks for the pics.  I do LOVE LOVE LOVE the RBW blue.  I once sent Leah a 
picture of a bike color I was drooling over "I WANT THAT COLOR BIKE!!!"  
She then told me it was the RBW blue, but in the sunset.  It went from 
lovely to lovely-er.  

Oh, I hope the new Chev comes in that color!

And, I hope you get a new bebe to grow up with your current cutie-pie bebe.

Roberta

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 5:56:22 PM UTC-4, Pancake wrote:
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> Not from Paul and maybe not the swoops you’re after - but proud (Rosco) 
> Bebe Daddy here happy to post pics. 
> Abe “excited for ChevDeux but more interested in pics of the Charles 
> Gallop” 
>
>
>  Roberta wrote: 
> > Paul. 
> > 
> > Can you show us some pics of the swished tubes of your Roscoe Bebe-with 
> or without Bebe aboard . 
>
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Roberta]

Joe,

It's a really nice color combination and I love how the white pinstripe 
sets off the dark bold red from the understated and lovely dove grey.  

I'm looking forward to seeing the entire bike!

Roberta

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>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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[RBW] WTB Back O Bike bags pair

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Those are the BEST bags Rivendell makes. I can’t understand why we don’t all 
have a pair of them. I thought of purchasing a back-up pair of Backabikes just 
in case of something like this happening!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Leah Peterson]

Listen, I don’t want to say I told you so to the lot of you, but I have been 
singing the praises of a good, strong red paint forEVER. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> "Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color."
> 
> Your bike is going to look..well..RAD! I did consider doing the whole thing 
> Rad Red at one point, that color POPS!  
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Re: [RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[J L]

Is there anyone here in the sisters / bend area that can assist in a collect 
and ship on that quickbeam to SF? Just checking in advance.  Contact me offlist 
if possible.

Jason
> On Apr 29, 2020, at 1:01 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> 
> PSA:  I have noticed three Rivendell bikes on Craigslist (Seattle & Portland) 
> lately and thought somebody here might be looking for one; I have no 
> association with the sellers.
> 
> 55 Sam  (Seattle)
> 58 Sam  (Seattle) 
> 54 Quickbeam  (Portland/Bend)
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

"Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color."

Your bike is going to look..well..RAD! I did consider doing the whole thing Rad 
Red at one point, that color POPS!  

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[RBW] PSA: 3 Rivendells for sale on CL

[JAS]

PSA:  I have noticed three Rivendell bikes on Craigslist (Seattle & 
Portland) lately and thought somebody here might be looking for one; I have 
no association with the sellers.

55 Sam  (Seattle)
58 Sam  (Seattle) 
54 Quickbeam  (Portland/Bend)

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[RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[masmojo]

Google research says Copperhead!?

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Michael Baquerizo]

Rad red. I mustered up some courage and asked Richard Sachs on instagram 
and he said Joe called his paint rad red as well. Unfortunately that 
doesn't translate to much for d (unless it does). but i'll be sure to 
show him your photo as well.

Thanks and the more I see your bike the more I like it. Great color. 


On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 1:53:30 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Michael: I saw a Kirk frame in the gallery at Joe Bell's site that had 
> these colors. In discussion with JB we variously referred to it as Ferrari 
> Red and Porsche Red, after it was painted he said the specific shade he 
> used is called Rad Red. I believe Richard Sachs was mentioned as having 
> used that one at some point, but my memory is a little vague on that. I'm 
> not sure I see pink in it but it's definitely a bright red, I was specific 
> that I wasn't going for any kind of brick-type darker shading. 
>
> Collin: Yes we discussed the Hunqapillar, or more specifically Mark @ 
> Riv's custom on Joe's gallery page which was the predecessor to it. The 
> idea was to do a lightened up version of that scheme with the Kirk frame's 
> colors. Worked out nicely, don't you think? 
>
> Brian: Save your money and I'll sell it to you when I'm too old and creaky 
> to ride. See ya in 20 years! 

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[RBW] WTB Back O Bike bags pair

[Mark Roland]

Just put in a luggage order with Rivendell. Unfortunately they are out of 
the BoB Bags, aka panniers. Anybody have a set in decent condition they 
would like to sell, kindly contact me off list, as customary. I have sets 
in blue, gray. Open to any colors. Thank you.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Joyce! Go Cougs! (I don't watch the foot ball and know nothing of Cougs, 
but your enthusiasm is infectious )

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[RBW] 30 Days of Biking!

[masmojo]

Ridiculous winds!

20 miles with stops at Taco Casa & Aldi!

Saw a small snake; initially I thought it was a baby rattlesnake,  but looking 
at it more I'm not so sure. Maybe there's a Herpetologist in the group?

https://ridewithgps.com/trips/47966728

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Daa42i9MnWVSPqmv8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/ErFDMQHiHGkpDwom7

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[JAS]

It's a stunning paint job and choice of colorsI love the front view 
that shows the head tube with the tiny hearts and the down tube heart in 
the same shot.  

Crimson and grayGo Cougs!  (For those of you unfamiliar with that 
phrase, it's all about Washington State University and though the bike's 
"rad red" isn't quite crimson, I just had to say it as a loyal WSU grad.)

--Joyce

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Btw if you want to drive yourself crazy with beautiful frames in dozens of 
gorgeous colors, check out the Kirk galleries at joebell.net, 
kirkframeworks.com and Kirk's Instagram. Cuh-RAZY!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick: I'm a late bloomer to gray, it's never been high on my list as a guy 
still heavy into his Miami Vice neons..gimme pink and turquoise! But I've grown 
to really like the grilver on my FJ and recently-owned Clem L, both bikes I 
didn't have a color choice on. I also loved the original Hunqapillar, so all 
the pieces started to fit when I saw the Kirk pic: It's gray AND neon! 

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[RBW] FS: 56cm, 26" wheeled Toyo Atlantis

[Christopher Cote]

I'm reluctantly putting my Atlantis up for sale. I'm sure I will regret 
doing this, but it's not really filling a necessary niche in my bike stable 
at this point. This is a Toyo built Atlantis from the early 2000s. Frame 
size is 56cm and the wheels are 26". I bought the frameset used on this 
list last year and built it up with a mix of parts on hand and new stuff. 
The paint on the frame and fork has plenty of honest beausage. The worst of 
which has been touched up with some sparkly green nail polish that looks OK 
from 10 feet away. I recently acquired a bottle of official Atlantis 
touch-up paint, which I will include with the sale. No dents or other 
functional damage to the frame or fork. I'm looking for $1400 plus shipping 
from zip 04093. Local pickup in southern Maine is encouraged if you're 
local! I can substitute the Surly Open Bars with a Nitto drop bar, and I 
have a selection of Technomic stems if you want a different length. What I 
don't have on hand is a spare pair of long-pull drop bar levers, so if you 
want the drop bar option, you'll need to provide your own levers.

Bars: Surly Open Bar
Stem: Nitto Technomic, 10cm (might be 11cm, I'll have to double-check)
Grips: Ergon GP1 Bio Cork
Brake Levers: Shimano Deore
Headset: Shimano Ultegra
Shifters: Dura Ace 9spd bar-ends mounted to Paul Thumbies
Brakes: Shimano Deore V-brakes, Koolstop salmon rear pads, Koolstop 
low-clearance, E-bike compound front pads
Cranks: Sakae with 24/36/46 rings, 170mm
Front Derailleur: Vintage Shimano Deore
Rear Derailleur: Shimano LX
Cassette: 11-36t, 9 speed
Wheels: Shimano Deore Hubs, Sun Rhyno Lite rims
Tires: Compass/Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass
Pedals: MKS RMX
Seatpost: Ritchey one-bolter. Chopped and scratched
Saddle: Giant brand placeholder. You'll want to provide your own Brooks!































Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Patrick Moore]

That is a rather nice color scheme. I generally don't care for gray, but
I'd make an exception for this paint job.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 12:35 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Thanks Rich! The badge looks great on red, doesn't it! That was a factor I
> hadn't even thought about when working out the paint scheme.
>
> I thought y'all might like to see the Kirk pic that started me down this
> road.
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:26:06 AM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> >
> > The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to
> mind! Thank you for sharing the images.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> > Rich in ATL
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:Who
> wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell not-quite-a-mixte?
> You do, that's who!*
> > *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Toshi Takeuchi]

That's probably the most beautiful headtube I've ever seen!

Toshi


On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 11:26 AM RichS  wrote:

> Joe,
>
> The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind!
> Thank you for sharing the images.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
>
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell
>> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>>
>> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
>>
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Thanks Rich! The badge looks great on red, doesn't it! That was a factor I 
hadn't even thought about when working out the paint scheme. 

I thought y'all might like to see the Kirk pic that started me down this road.  

On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 11:26:06 AM UTC-7, RichS wrote:
> Joe, 
> 
> 
> The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind! 
> Thank you for sharing the images.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:54:51 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:Who wants 
> to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell not-quite-a-mixte? You do, 
> that's who!*
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet

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[RBW] Re: Intro to Group!! Toyo AHH

[RichS]

Welcome to the group Garrett! That's a fine looking and nicely set up Homer.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:04:57 AM UTC-4, Garrett Berkey wrote:
>
> Hello! I am new to the group and thought I would share my Toyo AHH with 
> everyone. I have done a couple camping trips with rear panniers, and the 
> frame really didn't like the weight back there (the flex through the frame 
> while at a good speed and pedaling was scary). I even towed my dog when he 
> was a puppy! He weighs 45lbs now so I am going to spare the Homer of 
> pulling him. I decided to take the rear rack off and enjoy it as a rando 
> bike. I love how confident this bike feels at speed on either smooth tarmac 
> or a bumpy gravel descent. There are fewer and fewer people with rim brakes 
> on the gravel rides, but this A Homer Hilsen will do just fine for a long 
> time to come. 
>
> Nitto Noodle, TRP Levers, Silver Long Reach Brakes, Phil Wood Hubs F/R, 
> 2x7sp. Sugino XD Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto S83, Ultegra Headset + BB, Nitto 
> Mark's Rack, Acorn Bags (just in case people were curious) 
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[RichS]

Joe, 

The Riv badge on the red head tube. Luscious is a word that comes to mind! 
Thank you for sharing the images.

Best,
Rich in ATL

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>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[MCT]

After detailed analysis, Inhave 

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Michael: I saw a Kirk frame in the gallery at Joe Bell's site that had these 
colors. In discussion with JB we variously referred to it as Ferrari Red and 
Porsche Red, after it was painted he said the specific shade he used is called 
Rad Red. I believe Richard Sachs was mentioned as having used that one at some 
point, but my memory is a little vague on that. I'm not sure I see pink in it 
but it's definitely a bright red, I was specific that I wasn't going for any 
kind of brick-type darker shading. 

Collin: Yes we discussed the Hunqapillar, or more specifically Mark @ Riv's 
custom on Joe's gallery page which was the predecessor to it. The idea was to 
do a lightened up version of that scheme with the Kirk frame's colors. Worked 
out nicely, don't you think? 

Brian: Save your money and I'll sell it to you when I'm too old and creaky to 
ride. See ya in 20 years! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

[Lyman Labry]

Tom
That was my experience as well. I wanted to give the new one a run but
delays were frustrating. It’s not uncommon. And SA was great about it.  But
I switched order back to H2 leather and happier for it.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:37 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:

> I was on the pre-order list for the R2, but after they blew a couple of
> delivery deadlines I switched my order to an H2.  SA communicated really
> well during the process.  They essentially switched my order to an H2
> without an upcharge and shipped it 2 day.   I've been very happy with my SA
> saddle. I'm 190lbs and the H2 leather seems to be the right level of
> suppleness. My experience was mainly with VO and Geyes saddles in the
> past.
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Patrick Moore]

We agree wholeheartedly. The question is, what gives the best results when
you store more bread than you can eat fresh? The premise for the question
is that I'm not going to bake fresh bread daily or even every other day.
Freezing -- as you pointed out -- is often this next-best thing.

Patrick Moore, who remembers as a teenager eating his mother's frozen pound
cake right out of the freezer (pound cake popsicles!).

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 9:45 AM Garth  wrote:

> Oh sheesh . Let's try :  "*That's just it Patrick, there's just no
> substitute for freshly baked bread*."
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> *That's just in Patrick, there is just substitute for freshly baked bread*.
>> Myself I would leave whatever portion I'd eat for a day or 2, then freeze
>> the rest the same day as baking. Don't wait until it starts going stale to
>> freeze it. All frozen/canned food processors do their work with freshly
>> cooked goods. I grew up a few blocks from a Libby's canning factory, with
>> it's distinctive Corn Cob water tower. Every summer come harvest season
>> local truck after truck would bring the beets, peas, sweet corn and carrots
>> and such at peak ripe season. We'd walk down and get a dozen ears o' corn
>> for literally pennies and wow was it great !  Since the cannery was so
>> close, in the summer at night the "mischievous brothers" and I would go
>> there and they'd start throwing these whoppin' huge carrots at each
>> othernot to mention all the tomatoes in the shadows of the night while
>> roaming about the back yards. Come to think of they were always propelling
>> something, be it rocks, pine cones, apples and whatever they could get
>> their hands on prolly because one of their parents was so coldly strict
>> this was their only form of release from the constricting wrath of
>> dictatorship from within the walls of their prison/home. Here's to you
>> John, Matt and Christopher 
>>
>> Back to baking and freezing though... my Mom growing was always making
>> food to put in our deep chest freezer. She used to make these raisin filled
>> pastry type cookies that were to die for. I've still never seen or heard of
>> anything like them. She'd even do bone broths and soups for winter time. Oh
>> she also made jams and jellies with fresh local fruits like Crabapples,
>> Plums, Berries and Apples from a local orchard. I had most wonderful peanut
>> butter and jelly sandwiches for lunches !
>>
>> Isn't this the adventure of Life  you just never know where It's
>> going/happening. One minute you're baking bread and wondering how to store
>> it  the next you're in the midst of summer in a corn field... and for a
>> one little moment you wonder "how did I get *here* ?" . and in the
>> next breath ... "does it really matter ?" . heeheehee ... nope  not
>> one bit. You know  I hear lots about "going on adventures ... go here,
>> go there  go go go .. but with a keen eye . it's becomes
>> obvious the "adventure" ... is "you"  like a seed that sprouts all by
>> Itself and on the instant ... "the World" appears in
>> IT-Self-Celebratory-Magnificence.  Yes . this is IT, and IT is this.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

[Kieran J]

If anyone wants to try the R2 rubber saddle, I have one I would let go of. 
It's a nicely made saddle but the shape didn't work for me.  

Kieran


On Monday, April 27, 2020 at 4:23:52 PM UTC-7, Eric G@rs wrote:
>
> Looks like SA finally caught up to Brooks and produced a rubber saddle. 
> Has anyone had the chance to try it out? My leather SA saddle is the most 
> comfortable saddle I've used so I am curious about the new rubber one. I 
> might order one just to give it a shot. 
> https://selleanatomica.com/products/r2
>
> Eric G
> SF
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[RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Garth]

Oh sheesh . Let's try :  "*That's just it Patrick, there's just no 
substitute for freshly baked bread*."


On Wednesday, April 29, 2020 at 5:03:38 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>
> *That's just in Patrick, there is just substitute for freshly baked bread*. 
> Myself I would leave whatever portion I'd eat for a day or 2, then freeze 
> the rest the same day as baking. Don't wait until it starts going stale to 
> freeze it. All frozen/canned food processors do their work with freshly 
> cooked goods. I grew up a few blocks from a Libby's canning factory, with 
> it's distinctive Corn Cob water tower. Every summer come harvest season 
> local truck after truck would bring the beets, peas, sweet corn and carrots 
> and such at peak ripe season. We'd walk down and get a dozen ears o' corn 
> for literally pennies and wow was it great !  Since the cannery was so 
> close, in the summer at night the "mischievous brothers" and I would go 
> there and they'd start throwing these whoppin' huge carrots at each 
> othernot to mention all the tomatoes in the shadows of the night while 
> roaming about the back yards. Come to think of they were always propelling 
> something, be it rocks, pine cones, apples and whatever they could get 
> their hands on prolly because one of their parents was so coldly strict 
> this was their only form of release from the constricting wrath of 
> dictatorship from within the walls of their prison/home. Here's to you 
> John, Matt and Christopher  
>
> Back to baking and freezing though... my Mom growing was always making 
> food to put in our deep chest freezer. She used to make these raisin filled 
> pastry type cookies that were to die for. I've still never seen or heard of 
> anything like them. She'd even do bone broths and soups for winter time. Oh 
> she also made jams and jellies with fresh local fruits like Crabapples, 
> Plums, Berries and Apples from a local orchard. I had most wonderful peanut 
> butter and jelly sandwiches for lunches ! 
>
> Isn't this the adventure of Life  you just never know where It's 
> going/happening. One minute you're baking bread and wondering how to store 
> it  the next you're in the midst of summer in a corn field... and for a 
> one little moment you wonder "how did I get *here* ?" . and in the 
> next breath ... "does it really matter ?" . heeheehee ... nope  not 
> one bit. You know  I hear lots about "going on adventures ... go here, 
> go there  go go go .. but with a keen eye . it's becomes 
> obvious the "adventure" ... is "you"  like a seed that sprouts all by 
> Itself and on the instant ... "the World" appears in 
> IT-Self-Celebratory-Magnificence.  Yes . this is IT, and IT is this. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Camping bikes

[Craig Montgomery]

"I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong. One tip I have learned
from this thread was to plan for my water consumption. That was the sort of
no brainer thing that I never considered. I was happy to learn from someone
else’s experience."
Jason

  Yes. Yes. And yes.  Gave a talk/slideshow along with several other
bike tourists, at Transit Cycles here in Tucson about 2-3 years ago. Each
talk ended with questions and one fella consistently asked "What were you
most concerned about?" Except for the Northwest tourists and one who toured
the Allegheny Trail (?), the rest (AZ, CO, ID and Mongolia), consistently
answered, "The availability of water." Water is volume heavy and weight
heavy. No water or the worry of your next source can change the color of
any tour. You have to plan ahead or carry beyond what you think you need.
It's better to have it and not need it than...

Craig in Tucson
You need water to cook
You need water to drink
There's water for coffee
A necessity I think
So have lots around
And keep those dishes clean
But mostly it's for my whiskey
If you know what I mean
  Burma Shave


On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 5:04 PM J L  wrote:

> I like this attitude. There is no right of wrong.
>
> One tip I have learned from this thread was to plan for my water
> consumption. That was the sort of no brainer thing that I never considered.
> I was happy to learn from someone else’s experience.
>
> Jason
>
>
> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Jeffrey Arita 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello Jason,
>
> IMHO cyclo-touring/bikepacking or whatever you want to call it, there is
> no right or wrong.  I think the key is just to get out there.  I agree,
> that first step is the hardest.  One caveat though: If you do go out, you
> may never want to come back ;)
>
> I attached a pic of my rig for the GDMBR.  My wife's bike was eerily
> similar.  This was Summer 2017.  Again, there is no right or wrong.  We
> encountered a guy riding an older bike in which he attached 5-gallon
> plastic buckets as his panniers (covered in plastic wrap for
> waterproofing).  It worked for him.
>
> Finally: Most people will attest that when one carries this much stuff you
> can go for 1 night, 1 week, or 1 month (depending upon the weather of
> course).
>
> Good luck and have fun!
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
>
>
> On Sunday, April 19, 2020 at 6:41:08 PM UTC-7, J L wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I would love to hear how folks have set up a bike for camping duty. Any
>> sage advice? I am looking forward to a time where I can ride out from the
>> house, do one or two overnights, and ride home.
>>
>> Let’s say in this scenario I am doing more than putting stuff in a
>> backpack or bike basket and going.
>>
>> Jason
>> SF, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, all. It seems that freezing is the best method, given our climate
and the large amount I like to make at 1 time, and our irregular (but often
large) bread consumption. Freezing works well, as I said, with the after
results of toasting or even judicious nuking much like that of fresh bread;
certainly fresher than leaving it out for more than 24 hours.

I like a rather moist loaf. I am still using the 1 lb bag of Red Star yeast
I bought from Costco a long while ago. Flour has been Bob's Red Mill bread
flour (King Arthur "white whole wheat" was the only flour left at Sprout's
3 weeks ago, so I bought that on the chance that it might be my last option
for a while), but others with even more experience say that as long as its
decent quality flour, just buy what is cheapest with those criteria. My
brother, even better than I, uses bulk Sprout's unbleached and WW flour, I
think.

As to quality, my daughter prefers my bread to even the higher-end store
loafs (loaves? Dwarfs? Hoofs?), so I guess I'm doing well enough. (Proud to
say that my daughter grew up with home cooked scramble and fries for
breakfast, and home made mac and cheese and chicken nuggets for dinner as a
small girl, graduating on to more sophisticated but still home-made fare;
she's a modestly accomplished cooker herself now, at almost-19.)




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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Brian Campbell]

Can I put a bid in now for when your selling it for in 6 moths? ;-) Very 
nice and great color choices!I hope you thousands and thousands of happy 
miles from it!

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>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe

Great out of the box choice in picking a red contrasting head tube.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: Selle Anatomica rubber saddle (R2)

[Tom Wyland]

I was on the pre-order list for the R2, but after they blew a couple of 
delivery deadlines I switched my order to an H2.  SA communicated really 
well during the process.  They essentially switched my order to an H2 
without an upcharge and shipped it 2 day.   I've been very happy with my SA 
saddle. I'm 190lbs and the H2 leather seems to be the right level of 
suppleness. My experience was mainly with VO and Geyes saddles in the 
past.  

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Collin A]

Nice! It looks like a lighter colored version of the original hunqapillar 
color scheme. Hopefully it finds its way home to you soon!

Collin in Sac

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>
> Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
>
> *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet 
>

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[RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[lconley]

Beautiful!

Laing

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 11:55:43 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:54:51 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
> > Who wants to see pretty Joe Bell paint on a custom Rivendell 
> not-quite-a-mixte? You do, that's who!*
> > 
> > *pics sent from JB, I don't have the frame yet
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[masmojo]

Striking!

酪

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Re: [RBW] Re: Joe's Custom

[Michael Baquerizo]

Joe, did you spec that red yourself? How would you describe it? I'm getting a 
Sam painted before it comes to o me and I am trying to get a particular red 
that Richard Sachs used for a season recently. Your red seems a similar 'light 
red' leaning, aka on its way to way to pink but not quite. It could obviously 
just be the photos and my phone but curious to hear your input. Thanks in 
advance. 

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[RBW] Re: Bread (and bikes)

[Garth]

That's just in Patrick, there is just substitute for freshly baked bread. 
Myself I would leave whatever portion I'd eat for a day or 2, then freeze 
the rest the same day as baking. Don't wait until it starts going stale to 
freeze it. All frozen/canned food processors do their work with freshly 
cooked goods. I grew up a few blocks from a Libby's canning factory, with 
it's distinctive Corn Cob water tower. Every summer come harvest season 
local truck after truck would bring the beets, peas, sweet corn and carrots 
and such at peak ripe season. We'd walk down and get a dozen ears o' corn 
for literally pennies and wow was it great !  Since the cannery was so 
close, in the summer at night the "mischievous brothers" and I would go 
there and they'd start throwing these whoppin' huge carrots at each 
othernot to mention all the tomatoes in the shadows of the night while 
roaming about the back yards. Come to think of they were always propelling 
something, be it rocks, pine cones, apples and whatever they could get 
their hands on prolly because one of their parents was so coldly strict 
this was their only form of release from the constricting wrath of 
dictatorship from within the walls of their prison/home. Here's to you 
John, Matt and Christopher  

Back to baking and freezing though... my Mom growing was always making food 
to put in our deep chest freezer. She used to make these raisin filled 
pastry type cookies that were to die for. I've still never seen or heard of 
anything like them. She'd even do bone broths and soups for winter time. Oh 
she also made jams and jellies with fresh local fruits like Crabapples, 
Plums, Berries and Apples from a local orchard. I had most wonderful peanut 
butter and jelly sandwiches for lunches ! 

Isn't this the adventure of Life  you just never know where It's 
going/happening. One minute you're baking bread and wondering how to store 
it  the next you're in the midst of summer in a corn field... and for a 
one little moment you wonder "how did I get *here* ?" . and in the next 
breath ... "does it really matter ?" . heeheehee ... nope  not one 
bit. You know  I hear lots about "going on adventures ... go here, go 
there  go go go .. but with a keen eye . it's becomes obvious 
the "adventure" ... is "you"  like a seed that sprouts all by Itself 
and on the instant ... "the World" appears in 
IT-Self-Celebratory-Magnificence.  Yes . this is IT, and IT is this. 

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