[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[stonehog]

I personally like the SRAM S500 levers for drops.  They are more full in 
the hand, and I believe more like Campy Ergo levers.  You can still find 
them for reasonable prices around 50-60$.

Brian “Stonehog” Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 7:45:55 AM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> 
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Lyman Labry]

Black for my money.  Elegant.

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 8:39 PM Reid Echols  wrote:

> The black and cream, for my money :) I’d love a grilver one too, though.
>
> Reid in Austin
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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Mark Roland]

Although TRP and Tektro are actually the same company; TRP (originally 
Tektro Racing Products) is to Tektro what Lexus is to Toyota.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 5:53:03 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> I'd try the TRP levers because they LOOK comfy, but I have the Tektro 
> levers and they ARE comfy.  Also reasonably priced.  Have the same added 
> quick release clearance.
>
> https://blueskycycling.com/products/tektro-rl340-road-braket-levers-pair
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Curtis McKenzie]

Welcome and thst is a beautiful bicycle.

Are those 650B tires? (Just kidding.)

Curtid

On Tue, May 19, 2020, 5:12 PM Irving  wrote:

> dang, longtime RBW reader, first time poster in this thread. wanted to
> change things up on my chunkypillar, so i took off the fenders and front
> (pass and stow rack) and rear (tubus) racks and mounted this endpoint milk
> crate porteur rack instead.
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Re: [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem

[Robert Tilley]

  It measures 140 mm between the inside faces of the dropouts. When I couldn't seat the wheel easily I measured and it did come up short. The wheel is properly aligned once seated in the dropouts so I assume it was just sent over out of spec. If it was damaged I would thiink the dropouts would also be out of alignment.My custom AR that I got years ago was also built with the wrong rear spacing. It was supposed to be 135 but shipped to me at 130. So, this must just be the way it goes for me and Riv frames.Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From: westerh...@gmail.comSent: May 19, 2020 5:47 AMTo: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem  Robert, It is odd  that your HHH rear spacing is 140 - - our HHH  (from the first batch) is 145 spaced.  The website says they're 145 -- is yours out of spec?  Have you asked Riv? Julian WesterhoutBloomington, IL On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 12:50:18 PM UTC-5, Robert Tilley wrote:  I've been meaning to post mine but was waiting for the final parts to come in. Right now I'm just waiting on lights for the SON hub. I am very happy with the way the bike rides. I haven't had chance to get it on the dirt but I bought the frame with dirt rides in mind. Hopefully some off-road touring in the future.I was a bit disappointed that the rear spacing came in at 140 instead of the 145 it was supposed to be. Getting in the rear tire is a pain since I have a disc drag brake and getting the rotor lined up with one hand while trying to spread the dropouts with the other isn't easy.I went with a somewhat typical build but used 9 speed bar ends on Paul thumby mounts and went with Jones Loop bars for the captain. Pictures of mine are here:https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-Hubbuhubbuh-Tandem-2020/i-WnqpXcx/ARobert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   From:  mike@gmail.comSent: May 17, 2020 12:05 PMTo: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comReply-to: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comSubject: [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem  I haven't seen a lot of ride reports or comments about Hubbuhubbuhs so I thought I would throw my hat into the proverbial ring. Last year we pre-ordered an orange medium frame Hubbuhubbuh and anxiously anticipated its arrival. Parts purchase and assembly was accomplished via a series of phone calls and emails with Grant and Will at RBW. They of course made excellent recommendations and offered sage advice to guide me through the process. I would consider the build to be typical of Rivendell with the exception of the 9 speed trigger shifter on the right and the disc "drag brake" set up for the stoker. The cranks are Silver triples and the cassette is Shimano 9 speed 12-36. Handlebars are Bosco, 58 cm captain and 55 cm stoker. Wheels are Velocity Tandem build sold by Rivendell and the tires are plump G-One All Around. We are fairly experienced tandemers (sp?) if that is even a word. Our first tandem was a Burley Rumba with Soft-ride that we purchased 10 years ago. Then 5 years ago we added a Co-Motion Speedster. Those are both fine tandems but the Hubbuhubbah is far superior in my experience and opinion. We live in Amish country in Mid-Michigan and ride lots of rough paved and unpaved roads. The stable handling and fat tires on the Hubbuhubbuh makes piloting a tandem a dream. We initially thought that the upright seating and high handlebars would limit this bike to short rides but we often find ourselves taking longer exertions due to the comfortable ride and easy handling. Last fall we rode the 36 mile Barry Roubaix Fall Fondo. This is a casual gravel road outing that follows the same roads as the springtime Barry Roubaix Killer Gravel Road Race in Hastings, Michigan. It's safe to say that we received a lot of positive comments about the tandem during the outing. The bike beautifully handled all of the rough gravel roads and tough hills that the area is known for. (I've attempted to include some pictures from the Fall Fondo ride. Hopefully I will be successful). I was initially hesitant about the Bosco bars but am now a total convert. The handlebars are very comfortable and I don't feel that the riding position affects the speed of the bike at all. If you are on the fence about a Hubbuhubb

[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Brewster Fong]

If you ever decide to use Campy ergo levers, I use both the 2nd gen (round 
hoods) and the latest 3rd gen (gumby hoods) with Nitto Noodle bars and love 
it! 

Of course, YMMV!

Good Luck!

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 7:45:55 AM UTC-7, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> 
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Just when I thought I was remote enough there were no cameras! Caught in 
the act, and yes, that is my better side. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 4:01:37 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> You’re an elephant, Deacon!
>
> [image: Elephant gives himself a dust bath in amazing set of photographs 
> ...]
>
> article-0-0D901C140578-362_634x425.jpg 
> 
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 2:59 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.
>
> One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
> trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a 
> tan. Blocks sun too. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>>
>> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
>> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
>>  There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
>> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
>> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
>> all of us once said, "just ride."
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>>
>>> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
>>> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
>>> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
>>> (although they would like to do additional research).
>>>
>>> Read more here: 
>>> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>>>  
>>>
>>> It’s about balancing risks.
>>>
>>> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
>>> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
>>> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
>>> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> www.campyonly.com
>>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>>
>>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
>>> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
>>> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
>>> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
>>> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
>>> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
>>> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & 
>>> while it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the 
>>> thrift store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You’re an elephant, Deacon!



article-0-0D901C140578-362_634x425.jpg 


--Eric Norris
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> On May 19, 2020, at 2:59 PM, 'Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.
> 
> One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
> trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a tan. 
> Blocks sun too. Grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.
> 
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything.  
> There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
> all of us once said, "just ride."
> 
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and consequences 
> of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They also did not 
> conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe (although they would 
> like to do additional research).
> 
> Read more here: 
> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>  
> 
>  
> 
> It’s about balancing risks.
> 
> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, despite 
> the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride outweigh 
> the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit by a car 
> look at the same situation and make a different decision.
> 
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com <>
> www.campyonly.com 
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
> 
>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; 
>> then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into 
>> the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just 
>> reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with 
>> the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year.  I 
>> had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort 
>> to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while 
>> it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
>> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Aye. Life is fatal. Grin.

One alternative skin protectant on a hot day is to ride dirt roads and 
trails. Tires kick up dust. Dust sticks to sweaty skin. Pass it off as a 
tan. Blocks sun too. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick, who tanned a lot on todays dusty ride.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, George Schick wrote:
>
> Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
> entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
>  There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
> injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
> weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
> all of us once said, "just ride."
>
> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
>> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
>> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
>> (although they would like to do additional research).
>>
>> Read more here: 
>> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>>  
>>
>> It’s about balancing risks.
>>
>> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
>> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
>> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
>> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
>> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
>> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
>> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
>> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
>> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
>> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
>> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
>> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
>> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
>> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
>> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
>> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
>> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
>> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
>> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
>> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & 
>> while it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
>> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the 
>> thrift store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[R Shannon]

Sage is such a versatile color. Much like the gray on Joe’s custom:-)

Best,
Rich in ATL

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 19, 2020, at 5:09 PM, Will Ashe  wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm with Joe. The sage was my favorite Sam color. I think they look great 
> with black bits.
> 
>> On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 1:14:59 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>> My impression is it's a previous Sam color. Sage Green wasn't real popular 
>> but the Riv crew loved it (me, too)..my guess is they'll give it another run.
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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[George Schick]

Eric - you make some good points.  As a culture we seem to be slowly 
entranced into the concept of being "safe" everywhere and for everything. 
 There is no such thing as being absolutely safe.  One can get seriously 
injured or even killed in any number of ways every day.  It's more about 
weighing the risks of one thing against another.  As someone well known to 
all of us once said, "just ride."

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 3:55:06 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and 
> consequences of skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They 
> also did not conclude that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe 
> (although they would like to do additional research).
>
> Read more here: 
> https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
>  
>
> It’s about balancing risks.
>
> We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, 
> despite the risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride 
> outweigh the risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit 
> by a car look at the same situation and make a different decision.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo > 
> wrote:
>
> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin 
> either; then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting 
> absorbed into the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good 
> thing and just reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and 
> with the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every 
> year.  I had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and 
> fits my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical 
> look that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's 
> perfect for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an 
> effort to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while 
> it didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Will Ashe]

I'm with Joe. The sage was my favorite Sam color. I think they look great 
with black bits.

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 1:14:59 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> My impression is it's a previous Sam color. Sage Green wasn't real popular 
> but the Riv crew loved it (me, too)..my guess is they'll give it another 
> run. 

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Re: [RBW] Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The FDA still advises using sunscreen; basically, the risk and consequences of 
skin cancer outweigh the risks of wearing sunscreen. They also did not conclude 
that any of the chemicals absorbed are unsafe (although they would like to do 
additional research).

Read more here: 
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/fda-voices/shedding-more-light-sunscreen-absorption
 

 

It’s about balancing risks.

We all make these decisions every day. We go out to ride our bikes, despite the 
risk that we might get hit by a car. The benefits of the ride outweigh the 
risk. People who don’t ride their bikes for fear of being hit by a car look at 
the same situation and make a different decision.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On May 19, 2020, at 1:48 PM, masmojo  wrote:
> 
> Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; 
> then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into 
> the bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just 
> reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
> Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with 
> the Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year.  I 
> had to start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
> Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and fits 
> my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
> Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical look 
> that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's perfect 
> for sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
> I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort 
> to not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
> Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
> Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while it 
> didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
> I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
> store, but again they don't cover my arms.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[masmojo]

Yes, Leah I never have been a fan of slathering chemicals on my skin either; 
then I heard last year that the typical sunscreen was getting absorbed into the 
bloodstream! That seemed like it was probably not a good thing and just 
reinforced my resolve not to use it. 
Between the fact that I've been riding in sunny Texas for 52 years and with the 
Global Warming it just seems to get hotter and more sunny every year.  I had to 
start covering my skin; arms, nose & neck especially. 
Problem for me is finding something that does the job, isn't too hot and fits 
my idea of what appropriate cycling gear should look like.
 Unfortunately most sun specific bike gear errs towards a super technical look 
that's kind of overkill OR more genteel, stuff that looks like it's perfect for 
sitting around in & drinking iced tea on the veranda.
I may be old enough to be a grandpa, but I'm not one and I do make an effort to 
not reinforce the geriatric stereotype. 
Maybe one day I'll stop dressing like a teenager, but I doubt it.
Yesterday, I was riding with a light weight, white, cotton T-shirt & while it 
didn't cover my arms I never felt uncomfortable.
I sometimes ride with rayon Hawaiian shirts that I've gotten at the thrift 
store, but again they don't cover my arms.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[George Schick]

Patrick - yes, those *do* look perfect.  When it's time to re-tape the bars 
I'm gonna get one of these.  Looks like they come in an assortment of 
widths and a couple of stem clamp diameters, too.  Thanks for the tip!


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:23:27 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> George: If you like flat ramps made for quill stems, take a look at the 
> Rene Herse Maes Parallel bar. Expensive, but IMO worth every penny.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:13 AM George Schick  > wrote:
>
>> Part of the comfort issue here may be the bars themselves.  One of my 
>> road bikes is set up with noodle bars and Shimano 600 brake levers.  I find 
>> this combo to be "reasonably" comfortable - the bars are hawked as having 
>> "flat ramps," i.e., smooth transition from the top of the bend onto the 
>> brake lever hoods.  And they pretty much do, but they also have this minor 
>> "upsweep" where the bar makes its turn from the flats to the hooks that I 
>> find kind of irritating.
>>
>> Far and away the most comfortable bars I've ever used are the Ritchey 
>> Bio-Max.  The have absolutely flat "flats" and after the bars make the turn 
>> toward the hooks they are perfectly flat so there is a very straight 
>> transition to the brake levers.  My other road bike has these coupled with 
>> the Tektro  levers and I love it.  But there are three problems with these 
>> bars: 1) they are no longer made (though they may be found on eBay in 
>> various widths), 2) they were only made with a black anodized finish, and 
>> 3) most importantly, they can't be used with standard quill stems because 
>> the turn from the flat part of the top of the hook to the bottom of the 
>> hook is so sharp that a quill stem cannot be passed through it without 
>> spreading the stem mounting jaws, a dangerous thing to do.  The only way 
>> around this was to either find a quill stem with a bolt-on bar mount or use 
>> a threadless steering tube adapter and a threadless stem.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Pancake]

You could always try the TRP RRL levers for cheap ($14) as their imitations are 
available on Amazon: Lixada Bicycle Brake Handle 1 Pair Universal Aluminum MTB 
Mountain Bike Cycling Brake Levers Front & Rear Brake Levers Drop Handlebar Set 
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07F71RPPC/

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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[John G.]

I have TRPs and Shimano Tiagras on my Noodles. Both are incredibly comfy 
with Noodles.

On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 10:45:55 AM UTC-4, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> 
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Jason Fuller]

Whether the current Sam is too long, too short, or just right certainly 
depends on your body type but for me, it's perfect.  I have a 51 that fits 
me spot on, and I believe strongly that in order to really love a bike, it 
can't just be close - it needs to fit.  For my 50cm drops I run a 5cm stem, 
if I ran standard width drops I'd go up to 6 or maybe 7, and with swept 
bars I'd probably want a 12 or 13cm stem.

And regarding crazy-short stems - to me they are a matched set with the new 
breed of wide drop bars, and together they make perfect sense.  Apart, and 
they don't work very well at all. 

Anyways I'm surprised to hear more Sams are coming back before even hearing 
more about the Charlie H Gallop!  And I'd be very surprised if orange was 
offered, since the last batch of Sams had the latest & greatest 
slightly-pearled orange (ie, mine!) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Joe Bernard]

My impression is it's a previous Sam color. Sage Green wasn't real popular but 
the Riv crew loved it (me, too)..my guess is they'll give it another run. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Fryfam]

For those of us with short torsos and long legs, and a strong preference 
for drop bars, 2cm can make a huge difference in comfort over a 3-4 hr ride

Market interest in custom or limited release stems seems mostly fueled by 
the overabundance of long TT framesets in a world moving in the direction 
of uprighteousness, drop bar or not

re: color, would pretty much love any light shade of green

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:35:49 AM UTC-7, Dave Johnston wrote:
>
> I think MTB's were steered to long top tube short stem route because 
> of Fat 29er wheels and long travel suspension. Doesn't mean it doesn't 
> work well, but it's not unheard of for the bicycle world to sell a 
> compromise as a feature. Maybe 650b wheels are the better compromise? 
>
> I admit to being one of those people a few years back that would 
> declare a bike too big or too small because of +/-1cm differences in 
> the top tube and +/-2cm in the seat tube. This attitude was super 
> common on Ibob a few years ago. Nowadays if I can straddle the top 
> tube and the stem I need is commonly available then I'm mostly OK with 
> the design. Custom or limited release stems and I start to think 
> twice. 
>
> On 5/19/20, Patrick Moore > wrote: 
> > It seems that many riders are very happy with short stems and bars 
> > compensating for longer top tubes. I'd have to try such a combination 
> > before I paid for one, but it seems there are many different ways to 
> skin a 
> > cat -- so to speak. And now I recollect that modern mountain bikes have 
> > similar design qualities; interesting that the new Atlantis and 
> > Hillborns(?) are following that design trend. 
> > 
> > At any rate, the older, short-top-tube / long stem and bar also works 
> > impeccably for dirt road; perhaps one differentiating criterion is 
> whether 
> > your riding is more road or more singletrack biased? 
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[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Same shade of Orange used in the Jeep Sport vehicle.  Not flat, but with 
some metallic in it to shine..  

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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Re: [RBW] Not Buying New Goat, WTB Clem

[Kiley Demond]

Patrick, here you go: Mathilda, so named as it seemed like a strong Dutch 
female name for my Work Cycles Ladies Secret Service. (Digression: I bought 
the bike direct from the Netherlands. The local dealers (I lived in the Bay 
Area at the time) all wanted more money, and worse, a long wait, because 
the largest women's size was a special order. I rode one size down at a 
nice little bicycle shop at the Town & Country mall in Palo Alto, across 
from Stanford. Workcycles had the matte black in stock, the exchange rate 
was decent, and most shockingly UPS Air shipping was really affordable 
(under $200), so I wired the money. 2013 seems like forever ago.) 

I liked the Mathilda verse you sent. I was the tomgirl who got in trouble, 
but never serious enough trouble; mostly class clown, 
rules-don't-apply-to-me trouble (all girl's school so it is all relative). 
I was blessed with an education that encouraged women to be independent in 
all ways, led by thinking, so I relate to the Mathildas of the world.

Now, where was I... What I found with this bike and all the women-specific 
bikes I rode, was that they were really twitchy. The exception was my Trek 
Pilot that was a beauty of a road bike. I think it is because the geometry 
doesn't pan out as the frame gets larger. It isn't a constant increase 
across all parts (add 10% to all measurements, or somesuch). The Terry 
frame looks downright squished; it had flat handlebars. The design was to 
accommodate longer legs coupled with shorter arms; aka women's geometry. 
And I think we all know how a short, tall bike would handle. My extra-long 
femurs exaggerated the issue to absurd levels, no matter how many 
adjustments were made to components; they could never compensate for the 
shortcomings inherent in the frame design, and frequently made things 
worse. The ONE thing no one could comprehend was how just putting high, 
swept-back handlebars would fix darn near everything by allowing for the 
proper geometry for a bike to handle well and be comfortable (well, except 
Grant, of course).


 




 







On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 12:22:16 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Kiley: I have no present interest in a Clem -- we'll see about the future 
> -- since I have 2 bike projects in the pipeline and #3 just might be a 
> mini-velo, but I have to say that I'd love to see your future Clem, hear 
> it's name, and decide if name and appearance match (photos required).
>
> Moreover, I must demand to see photos of your "massive Dutch 
> Workcycle's" Ladies bike and demand to know why you called it Mathilda, 
> which is a name hoary with reverence and not to be taken lightly. I hope 
> for your sake you did not take it lightly. Even Mat(h)ilda did not get off 
> lightly:
>
> http://holyjoe.org/poetry/belloc4.htm
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 10:13 AM Kiley Demond  > wrote:
>
>> Now that the frenetic energy behind the release of a new iPhone, er, I 
>> mean Riv, has died down a pinch, I have come to my senses and will do as I 
>> originally intended and buy a Clem L. I would be delighted to purchase a 
>> “pre-owned” one, especially if the proceeds from that sale go back to Riv 
>> to purchase a new bike. I am no longer particular about the color (although 
>> the Dutch in me that loves bikes also loves orange), but I haven’t gotten 
>> shorter (much), so I need a 59. I am also willing to purchase just the 
>> frame as my Cheviot experience got me over any fear of working on bikes 
>> despite my hemispheric reversal (think: outbound dyslexia); I just get to 
>> do most mechanical things twice! 
>>
>> And as far as a name for the Cheviot replacement, I agree with Joe that 
>> it is a silly game to play, with Leah that Platypus conveys nothing 
>> positive, and offer only the idea of playing with the goat theme (and a few 
>> options; afterall, I am a writer). In playing with my friend Google, I 
>> found this one: “Clay Henry” a famous beer-drinking goat from the Starlight 
>> Saloon. Since I love the name “Henry”, it seems perfect to me. There is 
>> also some mention of “Chamois” when inquiring about Middle Earth goats 
>> (goats are not directly mentioned), and “Khardh” does shake out as a beast 
>> remotely related to the bison, that could “move through 

[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Clayton Scott]

Agree that there bar lever combinations also much depend on bars.

I found the noodle to be less sensitive to brake lever choice as they have 
fairly long ramps to rest your hands on.

Shorter reach bars like the Salsa Cowchipper (my favorite drop over the 
past 2 years) are more sensitive to brake lever hoods as you usually rest 
your hands at least partially on the hoods.
I very much prefer blocky, campy-esque hoods on those, on the noodles I 
seem fine with a greater diversity of levers.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:13:08 AM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> Part of the comfort issue here may be the bars themselves.  One of my road 
> bikes is set up with noodle bars and Shimano 600 brake levers.  I find this 
> combo to be "reasonably" comfortable - the bars are hawked as having "flat 
> ramps," i.e., smooth transition from the top of the bend onto the brake 
> lever hoods.  And they pretty much do, but they also have this minor 
> "upsweep" where the bar makes its turn from the flats to the hooks that I 
> find kind of irritating.
>
> Far and away the most comfortable bars I've ever used are the Ritchey 
> Bio-Max.  The have absolutely flat "flats" and after the bars make the turn 
> toward the hooks they are perfectly flat so there is a very straight 
> transition to the brake levers.  My other road bike has these coupled with 
> the Tektro  levers and I love it.  But there are three problems with these 
> bars: 1) they are no longer made (though they may be found on eBay in 
> various widths), 2) they were only made with a black anodized finish, and 
> 3) most importantly, they can't be used with standard quill stems because 
> the turn from the flat part of the top of the hook to the bottom of the 
> hook is so sharp that a quill stem cannot be passed through it without 
> spreading the stem mounting jaws, a dangerous thing to do.  The only way 
> around this was to either find a quill stem with a bolt-on bar mount or use 
> a threadless steering tube adapter and a threadless stem.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 9:45:55 AM UTC-5, Erik Wright wrote:
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
>> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
>> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
>> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
>> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
>> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
>> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
>> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
>> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
>> bend for my liking.
>>
>> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 
>> that 
>> Riv sells 
>> 
>>  
>> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
>> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are 
>> Paul Racers, if that's a factor.
>>
>> Let's hear 'em!
>>
>> Erik, Philly
>>
>> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
>> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Brian Campbell]

I have the TRP drilled levers on one set of Noodles and Cane Creek SCR-5 on 
another set of noodles. I like the TRP levers better.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Lots o' bags: Acorn, Swift, Ostrich

[somervillebikes]

All bags have been claimed. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[David Johnston]

I think MTB's were steered to long top tube short stem route because
of Fat 29er wheels and long travel suspension. Doesn't mean it doesn't
work well, but it's not unheard of for the bicycle world to sell a
compromise as a feature. Maybe 650b wheels are the better compromise?

I admit to being one of those people a few years back that would
declare a bike too big or too small because of +/-1cm differences in
the top tube and +/-2cm in the seat tube. This attitude was super
common on Ibob a few years ago. Nowadays if I can straddle the top
tube and the stem I need is commonly available then I'm mostly OK with
the design. Custom or limited release stems and I start to think
twice.

On 5/19/20, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> It seems that many riders are very happy with short stems and bars
> compensating for longer top tubes. I'd have to try such a combination
> before I paid for one, but it seems there are many different ways to skin a
> cat -- so to speak. And now I recollect that modern mountain bikes have
> similar design qualities; interesting that the new Atlantis and
> Hillborns(?) are following that design trend.
>
> At any rate, the older, short-top-tube / long stem and bar also works
> impeccably for dirt road; perhaps one differentiating criterion is whether
> your riding is more road or more singletrack biased?
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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[George Schick]

Part of the comfort issue here may be the bars themselves.  One of my road 
bikes is set up with noodle bars and Shimano 600 brake levers.  I find this 
combo to be "reasonably" comfortable - the bars are hawked as having "flat 
ramps," i.e., smooth transition from the top of the bend onto the brake 
lever hoods.  And they pretty much do, but they also have this minor 
"upsweep" where the bar makes its turn from the flats to the hooks that I 
find kind of irritating.

Far and away the most comfortable bars I've ever used are the Ritchey 
Bio-Max.  The have absolutely flat "flats" and after the bars make the turn 
toward the hooks they are perfectly flat so there is a very straight 
transition to the brake levers.  My other road bike has these coupled with 
the Tektro  levers and I love it.  But there are three problems with these 
bars: 1) they are no longer made (though they may be found on eBay in 
various widths), 2) they were only made with a black anodized finish, and 
3) most importantly, they can't be used with standard quill stems because 
the turn from the flat part of the top of the hook to the bottom of the 
hook is so sharp that a quill stem cannot be passed through it without 
spreading the stem mounting jaws, a dangerous thing to do.  The only way 
around this was to either find a quill stem with a bolt-on bar mount or use 
a threadless steering tube adapter and a threadless stem.


On Saturday, May 16, 2020 at 9:45:55 AM UTC-5, Erik Wright wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> I have a Roadini set up with 46cm Noodles. I'm using 9spd 105 brifters 
> that I took off my old road bike, and I'm struggling to dial in the feel of 
> the hoods. This is partially due to the lever / hood design (pretty boxy 
> and bulky, don't like it that much), but I also can't work out the bar to 
> hood transition, if that makes sense. I'd like a smooth transition from the 
> top of the bar into the hood position of the lever, in effect creating a 
> feel of the bullhorn handlebar. After many micro adjustments, I just can't 
> get that with this lever/bar combo. Either the levers feel too close and 
> create a harsh/abrupt transition to the hoods, or they're too far below the 
> bend for my liking.
>
> I figured I'd switch to downtube shifters and go with the Tiagra BL-R400 that 
> Riv sells 
> 
>  
> and uses on most of their bikes, but wanted to check in and see if anyone 
> here has a different lever that they *love* with Noodles. Brakes are Paul 
> Racers, if that's a factor.
>
> Let's hear 'em!
>
> Erik, Philly
>
> p.s. Riv's out of stock with those Tiagra levers so if you have some in 
> your bin that you'd like to get rid of, consider this a low key WTB post.
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Re: [RBW] FS: Fatty Rumpkin Tires

[RichS]

Tires have been claimed.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 12:39:54 AM UTC-4, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> Hey Rich, 
> I’ll take these.
> PM coming your way.
>
> On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 2:46:20 PM UTC-5, RichS wrote:
>>
>> Price drop on the Rumpkins to $55 shipped.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Rich in ATL
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On May 10, 2020, at 3:49 PM, RichS  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Green (light) model. Folding bead. 650b x 41 (measured exactly 41on 
>> Synergy rims); mounted easily!
>> Bought these from Riv to replace 38s on my Sam but 38 is still the 
>> optimal width for me.
>> Ridden 10-12 miles to test them out. Asking $85 (shipped) for the pair.
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Rich in ATL
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[RBW] Re: Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[greenteadrinkers]

Really like this brand: https://www.exofficio.com/ I've traveled a good bit 
throughout India with a few Exoffico shirts, super light weight, can 
withstand prolonged wear in not-so friendly environments, super easy to 
wash, and fast drying. The shirts pack down so tightly they take up like no 
space, and seem to weight nothing. During the day (in the oppressive heat 
of southern India, a long sleeve worked great, then at night, I'd layer it 
over a thin merino), that combo was all I needed for like a week of travel.

On Sunday, May 17, 2020 at 7:58:35 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:
>
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
> linen riding clothing? 
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Sun Protection in Sunny Climes

[greenteadrinkers]

Really like this brand: https://www.exofficio.com/ I've traveled a good bit 
throughout India with a few Exoffico shirts, super light weight, can 
withstand prolonged wear in not-so friendly environments, super easy to 
wash, and fast drying. The shirts pack down so tightly they take up like no 
space, and seem to weight nothing. During the day (in oppressive the heat 
of southern India, a long sleeve worked great, then at night, I'd layer it 
over a thin merino), really that combo was all I needed for like a week of 
travel.

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>
> I have been riding my big blue Clementine like it’s my JOB this year. I’ve 
> got 960 miles on that Blue Beauty and it’s only May, which is really good 
> for living in a car-centric suburb like mine. I wanted to do 2020 miles in 
> 2020, and the COVID crisis has put me ahead of schedule. With my husband 
> commandeering our bedroom as his office, one son Zooming his middle school 
> classes in the downstairs office, and my 2nd son Zooming 5th grade at my 
> kitchen table, there hasn’t been any places left for me in my house. It 
> seems I have no choice but to hit the road. Oh, twist my arm, why don’t 
> you. “Are you going out on your two-wheeler? Gonna hit the old dusty 
> trail?” my husband will ask. “Yes, I am doing this for YOU,” I say. 
>
> Compounding the issue is that I never leave before one mug of coffee, and 
> that mug cannot be rushed. So, I rarely get out there before 7:30 when the 
> sun is high in the sky. This is Vegas, and it’s hot here - we are in the 
> 90s and not a cloud in the sky most recently. Enclosed is a photo of my tan 
> line, and I haven’t even spent much time in the pool yet. Yikes. I’ve been 
> wearing some non-toxic sunscreen but honestly, it’s just better to cover 
> up. But how do you cover up when it’s so hot outside? I can’t imagine 
> wearing pants and long sleeves, but I also don’t want sun damage and skin 
> cancer, so I figured I’d come here and see what you folks do. 
>
> What clothing could I wear that would protect my skin without making me 
> sweat to death? Linen would be a good option, right? But where do you get 
> linen riding clothing? 
>
> Thanks!
> Leah
>

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[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[j.schwartz]

Root Beer!


On Tuesday, May 19, 2020 at 9:32:22 AM UTC-4, Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
> Getting back to the original topic, what is the old color being brought 
> back for the new batch if Hillbornes? I would guess by the wording that 
> it’s not a color that was previously used for Hillbornes. There’s been some 
> nice greens in the past - as dark one that some Simple Ones had. That would 
> look great. I’ve seen a copper/cream color on some Homers and Legolas 
> models over the years. Might be my favorite Rivendell color ever. I think 
> the black/cream and sage ones were the best colors the model has come in so 
> far. There’s been a lot of blue and orange variations over the years, but 
> who knows? 
>
> Eamon 
> Seattle 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Patrick Moore]

It seems that many riders are very happy with short stems and bars
compensating for longer top tubes. I'd have to try such a combination
before I paid for one, but it seems there are many different ways to skin a
cat -- so to speak. And now I recollect that modern mountain bikes have
similar design qualities; interesting that the new Atlantis and
Hillborns(?) are following that design trend.

At any rate, the older, short-top-tube / long stem and bar also works
impeccably for dirt road; perhaps one differentiating criterion is whether
your riding is more road or more singletrack biased?

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Re: [RBW] New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[David Johnston]

that green/ purple color changing color was cool


On 5/19/20, Eamon Nordquist  wrote:
> Getting back to the original topic, what is the old color being brought back
> for the new batch if Hillbornes? I would guess by the wording that it’s not
> a color that was previously used for Hillbornes. There’s been some nice
> greens in the past - as dark one that some Simple Ones had. That would look
> great. I’ve seen a copper/cream color on some Homers and Legolas models over
> the years. Might be my favorite Rivendell color ever. I think the
> black/cream and sage ones were the best colors the model has come in so far.
> There’s been a lot of blue and orange variations over the years, but who
> knows?
>
> Eamon
> Seattle
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[RBW] New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

[Eamon Nordquist]

Getting back to the original topic, what is the old color being brought back 
for the new batch if Hillbornes? I would guess by the wording that it’s not a 
color that was previously used for Hillbornes. There’s been some nice greens in 
the past - as dark one that some Simple Ones had. That would look great. I’ve 
seen a copper/cream color on some Homers and Legolas models over the years. 
Might be my favorite Rivendell color ever. I think the black/cream and sage 
ones were the best colors the model has come in so far. There’s been a lot of 
blue and orange variations over the years, but who knows?

Eamon 
Seattle 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 50cm Roadini - Orange and Athena!

[Lyman Labry]

Awesome! Wishing it were 61cm!

On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 7:53 PM Damien  wrote:

> $1,400 - any interest???
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[RBW] Time Travel with Your Bike

[DHans]

Good morning all,
Okay, this article isn't about Rivendell bikes so it may be off topic. But, 
I really enjoyed the quick read and thought we could apply it to Rivendell. 
How do you use your Rivendell? Which of their bikes would suit different 
times and riding surfaces? How would you set up a particular Riv bike for 
different times and surfaces? Anyway, check out the article for a fun read.
Cheers,
Doug

https://www.yawpcyclery.com/blog/2019/11/14/differentiating-between-surlys-flat-bar-touring-bikes

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Re: [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem

[Julian Westerhout]

Robert, 
It is odd  that your HHH rear spacing is 140 - - our HHH  (from the first 
batch) is 145 spaced.  The website says they're 145 -- is yours out of 
spec?  Have you asked Riv? 


Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Monday, May 18, 2020 at 12:50:18 PM UTC-5, Robert Tilley wrote:
>
> I've been meaning to post mine but was waiting for the final parts to come 
> in. Right now I'm just waiting on lights for the SON hub. I am very happy 
> with the way the bike rides. I haven't had chance to get it on the dirt but 
> I bought the frame with dirt rides in mind. Hopefully some off-road touring 
> in the future.
>
> I was a bit disappointed that the rear spacing came in at 140 instead of 
> the 145 it was supposed to be. Getting in the rear tire is a pain since I 
> have a disc drag brake and getting the rotor lined up with one hand while 
> trying to spread the dropouts with the other isn't easy.
>
> I went with a somewhat typical build but used 9 speed bar ends on Paul 
> thumby mounts and went with Jones Loop bars for the captain. Pictures of 
> mine are here:
>
>
> https://roberttilley.smugmug.com/Bicycles/Rivendell-Hubbuhubbuh-Tandem-2020/i-WnqpXcx/A
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device
> *From:* mike@gmail.com 
> *Sent:* May 17, 2020 12:05 PM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Reply-to:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* [RBW] Praise for the Hubbuhubbuh tandem
>
> I haven't seen a lot of ride reports or comments about Hubbuhubbuhs so I 
> thought I would throw my hat into the proverbial ring. 
>
> Last year we pre-ordered an orange medium frame Hubbuhubbuh and anxiously 
> anticipated its arrival. Parts purchase and assembly was accomplished via a 
> series of phone calls and emails with Grant and Will at RBW. They of course 
> made excellent recommendations and offered sage advice to guide me through 
> the process. 
>
> I would consider the build to be typical of Rivendell with the exception 
> of the 9 speed trigger shifter on the right and the disc "drag brake" set 
> up for the stoker. The cranks are Silver triples and the cassette is 
> Shimano 9 speed 12-36. Handlebars are Bosco, 58 cm captain and 55 cm 
> stoker. Wheels are Velocity Tandem build sold by Rivendell and the tires 
> are plump G-One All Around. 
>
> We are fairly experienced tandemers (sp?) if that is even a word. Our 
> first tandem was a Burley Rumba with Soft-ride that we purchased 10 years 
> ago. Then 5 years ago we added a Co-Motion Speedster. Those are both fine 
> tandems but the Hubbuhubbah is far superior in my experience and opinion. 
> We live in Amish country in Mid-Michigan and ride lots of rough paved and 
> unpaved roads. The stable handling and fat tires on the Hubbuhubbuh makes 
> piloting a tandem a dream. We initially thought that the upright seating 
> and high handlebars would limit this bike to short rides but we often find 
> ourselves taking longer exertions due to the comfortable ride and easy 
> handling. 
>
> Last fall we rode the 36 mile Barry Roubaix Fall Fondo. This is a casual 
> gravel road outing that follows the same roads as the springtime Barry 
> Roubaix Killer Gravel Road Race in Hastings, Michigan. It's safe to say 
> that we received a lot of positive comments about the tandem during the 
> outing. The bike beautifully handled all of the rough gravel roads and 
> tough hills that the area is known for. 
>
> (I've attempted to include some pictures from the Fall Fondo ride. 
> Hopefully I will be successful). 
>
> I was initially hesitant about the Bosco bars but am now a total convert. 
> The handlebars are very comfortable and I don't feel that the riding 
> position affects the speed of the bike at all. 
>
> If you are on the fence about a Hubbuhubbuh then I say go for it!! You 
> won't regret a single minute spent together on one.  
>
> If you are interested in a Burley Rumba as a cheap starter tandem and live 
> within a reasonable distance of Vermontville, MI then send me a message.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
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[RBW] Re: Brake lever preference with Nitto Noodles

[Fullylugged]

I'd try the TRP levers because they LOOK comfy, but I have the Tektro levers 
and they ARE comfy.  Also reasonably priced.  Have the same added quick release 
clearance.

https://blueskycycling.com/products/tektro-rl340-road-braket-levers-pair

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