[RBW] FS: Mark's rack (Nitto M-1)

[Eric G@rs]

I have a Mark's rack in good condition that I am looking to sell for 70$. 
The struts are cut, but new ones are available from the Rivendell website. 
I am planning to go on a stem sizing odyssey soon so willing to trade a 
~7cm tallux or technomic (26.0 clamp) + cash as well. Local preferred for 
swap, but willing to ship as well. 

Eric 
Menlo Park

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Tim Baldwin]

I like riding in Vans sk8 hi or Crocs. So really just the shoes I would 
wear around anyway. I wear boots when I have to.  I have some Sorels with a 
thin sole that work well in the winter. If it's warmer and wet, splats are 
pretty great and so stylish. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:03:48 PM UTC-6 Philip Williamson wrote:

> I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
> The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.
>
> Philip
> Santa Rosa, CA
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Philip Williamson]

I’m on my second pair of Chrome Kursks.
The old ones lasted years, off-road and on.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Tim Baldwin]

Yes, tighten that stem clamp. I think the move to 31.8 clamp makes sense 
for swept back bars. The 31.8 Tosco feels super solid wiith the Nitto 
faceplate quill stem.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:03:43 PM UTC-6 John Phillips wrote:

>   I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's Tosco's. I 
> like a nearly 90 degree angle between the bar and my arm/wrist. With stem 
> length & height, bar height, bar angle, and grips, everyone's needs are 
> different , but one absolutely needs to tighten that bar clamp.
>
> John
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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Tim Baldwin]

Thanks for reading Paul, Doug, and Eric. Glad people are enjoying the post. 
I'm hoping this is one of many overnights this year. The Gus and Susie are 
some great riding bikes. I got a couple commutes in this week and I've been 
having a blast cruising fast, flying over the rough streets here. Those G 
Ones set up tubeless probably help.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:44:18 PM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Rad trip! Thanks for sharing :) 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:18:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Great post Tim. The orange frame with the black rims and big Schwalbe 
>> G-Ones looks nice.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 7:22:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> And now for some pictures...
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Philip Barrett]

Thanks - it was a beauty and quite rare as an original (certified) pre-tag 
body so probably one of the first 100 made. The paint job was a 10-footer 
at best though & I did re-use the seat frames but the rest of them had been 
occupied my Mr. & Mrs. Mouse for too long to be saved (mask & gloves 
required). The build concept was to replicate the traditional poor-surfer 
builds of the time where every part possible from the donor car was used, 
rather than a more hot-rod version. Let's face it 40HP in a 1,200lb car is 
exciting enough!

Unfortunately I was about 85% to completion when I had to sell it last Fall 
due to losing my workshop & a safe place to park it.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 7:03:29 PM UTC-6 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Philip that Manx is amazing! I want to go for a spin in it. It looks like 
> period-correct Beetle seats too - nice touch!
>
> M
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:06:18 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> The neatness of your shop and bench really puts mine to shame, but I took 
>> a picture of mine as it usually is. I’ve never been one to have tools 
>> hanging off pegboards, obviously :)
>>
>> After 20 years with a basic Park work stand, I finally bought a new stand 
>> with height adjustability. I set my old stand to the side to figure out 
>> what to do with it, but I quickly found I loved having two stands! It’s so 
>> nice to be able to hang two bikes up when I’m swapping wheels or something. 
>>  
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
>>> to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
>>> shed. 
>>>
>>> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>>>
>>> [image: shed4.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Let's see your shop and workbench

[Michael Morrissey]

Philip that Manx is amazing! I want to go for a spin in it. It looks like 
period-correct Beetle seats too - nice touch!

M

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:06:18 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> The neatness of your shop and bench really puts mine to shame, but I took 
> a picture of mine as it usually is. I’ve never been one to have tools 
> hanging off pegboards, obviously :)
>
> After 20 years with a basic Park work stand, I finally bought a new stand 
> with height adjustability. I set my old stand to the side to figure out 
> what to do with it, but I quickly found I loved having two stands! It’s so 
> nice to be able to hang two bikes up when I’m swapping wheels or something. 
>  
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
>> to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
>> shed. 
>>
>> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: shed4.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Garth]

I wear Altra Superior 3.5 and Lone Peak 4 and the new All-Weather version 
trail running shoes for riding, they are more stiff midfoot than a pure 
running shoe like their Escalante Racer, which is ooh-lah-lah for walking 
!  What I like about Altra besides the zero drop  is the nice wide shape of 
the footbed, which leaves your toes free to roam without being pushed in on 
either side. It's very much a similar shape to the Crocs classic sandals, 
for those that are familiar with those.  Since I discovered that basic 
shape it was obvious why I hated shoes so much, it was the shape of 
footbed. I don't know anyone who has a foot shaped like say a Five Ten 
footbed where your big toe is supposedly gonna curve it's way to magically 
conform to the wonky shape ? I think not ! 
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:45:19 PM UTC-5 Adam wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.
>
> I know everyone has their own prefs with this stuff, it's great to have 
> all these ideas in one thread.
>
> I'm inclined to check out the Five Ten Freeriders, though I'm not sure how 
> they'll deal with water. I have various boots that work for winter or real 
> rain, but I seem to do a lot of rides that have either light rain or 
> puddles/mud.
>
> Or I'll bring back the Sambas--haven't worn those since the 90s . . .
>
> Thanks!
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:26:38 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
>> prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
>> made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
>> mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
>> needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
>> currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
>> them. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
>>> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
>>> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>>>
>>> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy 
>>> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>>>
 I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
 sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
 Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
 pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
 Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 

 On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
> with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
> MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
> experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
> For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
> and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
>> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
>> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
>> around 
>> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
>> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front pannier rack for Appaloosa

[Nick Payne]

My Appaloosa frame is a 57cm. I just measured the C-C distance between the 
upper eyelet on the dropout and the braze-on attachment on the fork leg as 
232mm. FWIW, the Tara rack I have is the stainless steel model, though I 
doubt that there are any dimensional differences between that and the 
coated steel model.

Nick

On Wednesday, 3 March 2021 at 10:57:04 am UTC+11 Ed Fausto wrote:

> Thank you for posting a picture of your Appaloosa with Tubus Tara.
> I really wanted to use a Tubus Tara on my 51 Appaloosa but the absence of 
> lower eyelet prevented me from getting one.
> Would you mind telling me what is the size of your Appaloosa frame?
> I am not sure if frame size affects the dimension of the fork.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I think I want drops on my Clem

[dave_manze...@yahoo.com]

Hi Jim-
It is a Microshift R10. The body is actually shiny metal, not silver paint. 
The long cage is generally much harder to find. I think I bought my last 2 
from a place called VeloVitality in the UK. Not that expensive. 
Dave 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:13:58 PM UTC-5 Jim Bronson wrote:

> Dave,
>
> What kind of derailleur do you have?  Looks nice.
>
> -Jim
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:51 AM dave_m...@yahoo.com  
> wrote:
>
>> I ran drops using a fairly short stem. I really enjoyed that setup for 
>> commuting on the paved bike trail  
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 12:18:05 AM UTC-5 Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm trying to think of reasons I shouldn't do this but I'm really not 
>>> coming up with any.   The TT on my 65 Clem is about the same as my more 
>>> roadie Rivs.  I will want a shorter stem, but that's NBD, 100mm  instead of 
>>> 140.  I have some 48cm noodles lying around and some 9 speed bar ends.  
>>> Levers will need to be obtained,  or travel agents.   Cassette will have to 
>>> be changed from stock 8 speed to 9 for the bar ends I have in the parts 
>>> bin, have several 9 speed cassettes on hand also.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Adam]

Thanks for all the suggestions, much appreciated.

I know everyone has their own prefs with this stuff, it's great to have all 
these ideas in one thread.

I'm inclined to check out the Five Ten Freeriders, though I'm not sure how 
they'll deal with water. I have various boots that work for winter or real 
rain, but I seem to do a lot of rides that have either light rain or 
puddles/mud.

Or I'll bring back the Sambas--haven't worn those since the 90s . . .

Thanks!
On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:26:38 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
> prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
> made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
> mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
> needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
> currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
> them. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
>> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
>> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>>
>> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
>> NY) wrote:
>>
>>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>>
 I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - 
 with the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. 
 MSRP is $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My 
 experience with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. 
 For a change of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, 
 and suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).

 --Ed C.
 On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of 
> years, but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to 
> retire. I tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting 
> around 
> from a few years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, 
> the grip doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
> bother me all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>


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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Eric Marth]

Rad trip! Thanks for sharing :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 2:18:50 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:

> Great post Tim. The orange frame with the black rims and big Schwalbe 
> G-Ones looks nice.
> Doug
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 7:22:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> And now for some pictures...
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Andrew Turner]

I second the Adidas Sambas and Bedrock combo. As long as it's not cold, I 
prefer wearing sandals since the drying time is nothing...but I think what 
made the biggest difference for me was going with a really large platform 
mountain bike pedal with pins. The bigger the platform, the less the shoe 
needs to be stiff and the pins really lock you in (sometimes too much.) I'm 
currently on Spank Oozy platforms and really any of my shoes work fine with 
them. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:24:38 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
> construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
> waterproof. Have worn them for years. 
>
> I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
>> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
>> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
>> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
>> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>>
>>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>>
>>> --Ed C.
>>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
 people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.

 I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
 but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
 tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a 
 few 
 years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
 doesn't hold up when they're wet.

 I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
 running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
 bother me all those years.

 So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
 reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)

 Thanks for your thoughts!

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Birthday Bike Build and Campout

[Doug H.]

Great post Tim. The orange frame with the black rims and big Schwalbe 
G-Ones looks nice.
Doug

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 7:22:46 PM UTC-5 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:21:35 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:20:13 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:19:26 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:
>>>
 On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:18:45 PM UTC-6 Tim Baldwin wrote:

> And now for some pictures...
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

  I tilt my Albatross bars down like Eric's Alba's or Tom's Tosco's. I like 
a nearly 90 degree angle between the bar and my arm/wrist. With stem length 
& height, bar height, bar angle, and grips, everyone's needs are different 
, but one absolutely needs to tighten that bar clamp.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Small Sackville Saddlesack in very good to excellent condition

[Elisabeth Sherwood]

Well, that went quickly... Sold... 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 1:34:07 PM UTC-5 Elisabeth Sherwood wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I bought this a few years ago from another listmember, but it turns out my 
> boyfriend and I are really just confirmed rack-and-pannier people. I'm 
> pretty sure we never got around to using this.  That said, I always thought 
> this was the perfect size for this style of bag, and I'm amazed that Riv 
> discontinued it due to lack of popularity!
>
> Khaki/Olive-ish fabric, in very good to excellent condition (sorry about 
> the lighting of the photos...). It has a Rivelo patch on it from the 
> previous owner. Some marks where it rests against the seatpost.  Fits four 
> large rolls of toilet paper with tons of space to spare!
>
> $100 shipped in the continental US?  Paypal...
>
> Liz Sherwood
> Washington, DC
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: I think I want drops on my Clem

[Jim Bronson]

Dave,

What kind of derailleur do you have?  Looks nice.

-Jim

On Wed, Mar 3, 2021 at 8:51 AM dave_manze...@yahoo.com <
david.h.manze...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I ran drops using a fairly short stem. I really enjoyed that setup for
> commuting on the paved bike trail
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 12:18:05 AM UTC-5 Jim Bronson wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to think of reasons I shouldn't do this but I'm really not
>> coming up with any.   The TT on my 65 Clem is about the same as my more
>> roadie Rivs.  I will want a shorter stem, but that's NBD, 100mm  instead of
>> 140.  I have some 48cm noodles lying around and some 9 speed bar ends.
>> Levers will need to be obtained,  or travel agents.   Cassette will have to
>> be changed from stock 8 speed to 9 for the bar ends I have in the parts
>> bin, have several 9 speed cassettes on hand also.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Doug H.]

Two thumbs up for your workshop Eric. I would hang out for hours in there 
just looking for something to do.
Doug

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:02:48 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice to 
> see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my shed. 
>
> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>
> [image: shed4.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: To My Platypus People!

[Doug H.]

This reminds me of the Santa Claus tracking kids do at Christmas time. 
HoHoHo Merry Platypus!
Doug

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 2:17:00 PM UTC-5 Chris in NZ wrote:

>
> I’ve been keeping an eye on it (I’m a tracking obsessive). Previously at 
> anchor and on the live map it was outside the port waiting. 
>
> It is now showing as “moored” and the live map shows it alongside.. 
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:03:24 AM UTC+13 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Yes! It has been at anchor for days now. I don’t know if that means they 
>> are anchored in the bay awaiting their turn to be unloaded or if they are 
>> docked and unloading now. But, while we wait, here’s a Unicorn Platypus, 
>> which now lives on the raspberry Platy. I think it’s fitting since the 
>> first shipment of Platypuses were ferried to American shores by a container 
>> ship called The Unicorn!
>>
>> I hope everyone is filling out Tom’s spreadsheet - so fun!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

This is sweet! I like your bike and bench rotation, George. And envy your 
proper work stand. Those Ikea cabinets are a big bang for the buck. If 
they're not Ikea, well, even better, probably! I had been eyeing a friend's 
old steel paper cabinets from the USPTO, thought they'd be good for tools. 

Sean, that's a nice one. Glad to hear your bench is still going strong a 
decade in. I like to thank my past self when I find stuff useful later on. 

Philip, old shop sounds great. AC and heat! My grandfather cycled through 
many partial vehicle restorations, mostly VWs (several Bugs, a van, even a 
Thing!) and also had a dune buggy for a while. Not sure of the make. I do 
love the wooden Felo drivers. Stripped mine of the factory finish and 
rubbed 'em with boiled linseed oil. Super great handle shapes. I have a 
single no. 2 JIS Phillips driver for when it's required. Congrats on your 
pending Clem :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:42:09 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was restoring a 1967 Meyers Manx, pre-tag body, the genuine article. Got 
> about 80% finished & downsizing caught up with me! I had MIG, TIG & 
> Oxy-Fuel, 208V power, compressor & perhaps best of all; AC & heat...c'est 
> la vie...
>
> The new house we're building will have a fairly compact but useful garage 
> & I've saved your layout to pretty much replicate across the back wall, I 
> love how everything critical is within reach. I have those same wooden 
> screwdrivers too but once you have a JIS set there's no going back, 
> especially for Shimano, Nitto & other Japanese parts. 
>
> The gray is original, early 80's Trek, interesting that those colors are 
> so popular again today especially considering what followed immediately 
> afterwards in terms of mid-80's dayglo! I get complements literally every 
> time I ride it. The Clem Smith showing up next week will actually replace 
> this bike, though I'll be transferring some parts across including the 
> saddle.
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:27:45 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Whoa Philip, is that a dune buggy!? Looks like you had it going on out 
>> there: coffee maker, welder, compressor, I might spy a drill press, too. 
>>
>> Love the gray paint on that bike with the honey saddle and grips. 
>> Understated beauty, my kind of subtle. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:02:11 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That is really nice, I'm totally stealing your orga ideas. Here's what I 
>>> had prior to downsizing;
>>> [image: IMG_20190630_135353.jpg][image: IMG_20190630_135339.jpg]
>>>
>>> And here's now!
>>> [image: PXL_20210123_004846695.jpg]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Philip Barrett]

That's a really nice set up, I use those same IKEA drawers as 
storage/printer stand in my office. Sensible size compressor too, if you're 
not looking run a die grinder there's no need to go any bigger than that. I 
like how you have summer & winter homes, sort of like heading to the 
Hamptons or Martha's Vinyard (like I'd know about that).

The downsizing has actually been good. We took advantage of a hot property 
market and due to COVID's WFH becoming empty nesters as our daughter 
relocated to be with her boyfriend, moved to a cool industrial loft space 
which is less per month than our property taxes & insurance were previously 
(welcome to Texas folks). Right now we're banking the change, biding our 
time & seeing what manana will bring.


On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 10:23:15 AM UTC-6 George Schick wrote:

> I almost didn't send photos because I'm feeling inadequate compared to 
> those workshops of Philip and Eric, but here are some.  The smaller 
> workbench is in the basement along with the work stand, compressor, etc. 
> for Winter storage and overhaul of the road bikes.  They spend the Winter 
> months down there, too, hanging adjacent to the bench.  Then, in the Summer 
> the work stand, etc. gets moved to the garage where there is another 
> workbench.  The two MTB's spend the Winter up there, too.
> Philip this talk of downsizing makes me nervous.  Every time my wife 
> brings it up I try to change the subject!
>
> [image: DSCN0952.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCN0954.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCN0955.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCN0956.JPG]
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 7:02:48 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I love seeing shops, tools and workbenches and thought it would be nice 
>> to see where everyone works on their bikes. Here are a few views from my 
>> shed. 
>>
>> [image: shed1.jpg][image: shed2.jpg]
>>
>> [image: shed4.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Well, if it can’t be a red Platy, this is the next best thing! Riding the 
Great Lakes? JEALOUS OVER HERE.

Mixtes in shades of red are the new cool kids in town.
Leah

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:52:53 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:

> No, Tom I didn't name this one.  I had a little too much fun building the 
> first one.
>
> Marc
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 5:58:35 PM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>
>> Looks very racy, Marc! 
>> i also read everything you wrote about Byron during my search. 
>> Does this one have a name?
>> Tom
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Nice looking build, I got one last year and built it very light for 
>>> brisk city riding and commuting.  I love it.  The red is real, damn red.   
>>>
>>> Marc[image: 20200104_150722.jpg]
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:18:25 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,
 This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
 I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
 Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
 understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, 
 but 
 its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm 
 Pari 
 motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
 dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
 Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
 least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
 thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano 
 SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
 miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the 
 bends 
 of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative. 
 I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
 too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept 
 back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light 
 but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road 
 bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame 
 they 
 still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
 even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and 
 it 
 really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.

 Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and 
 this may be the ride.



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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Philip Barrett]

I was restoring a 1967 Meyers Manx, pre-tag body, the genuine article. Got 
about 80% finished & downsizing caught up with me! I had MIG, TIG & 
Oxy-Fuel, 208V power, compressor & perhaps best of all; AC & heat...c'est 
la vie...

The new house we're building will have a fairly compact but useful garage & 
I've saved your layout to pretty much replicate across the back wall, I 
love how everything critical is within reach. I have those same wooden 
screwdrivers too but once you have a JIS set there's no going back, 
especially for Shimano, Nitto & other Japanese parts. 

The gray is original, early 80's Trek, interesting that those colors are so 
popular again today especially considering what followed immediately 
afterwards in terms of mid-80's dayglo! I get complements literally every 
time I ride it. The Clem Smith showing up next week will actually replace 
this bike, though I'll be transferring some parts across including the 
saddle.

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:27:45 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Whoa Philip, is that a dune buggy!? Looks like you had it going on out 
> there: coffee maker, welder, compressor, I might spy a drill press, too. 
>
> Love the gray paint on that bike with the honey saddle and grips. 
> Understated beauty, my kind of subtle. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:02:11 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> That is really nice, I'm totally stealing your orga ideas. Here's what I 
>> had prior to downsizing;
>> [image: IMG_20190630_135353.jpg][image: IMG_20190630_135339.jpg]
>>
>> And here's now!
>> [image: PXL_20210123_004846695.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see your shop and workbench

[Eric Marth]

Whoa Philip, is that a dune buggy!? Looks like you had it going on out 
there: coffee maker, welder, compressor, I might spy a drill press, too. 

Love the gray paint on that bike with the honey saddle and grips. 
Understated beauty, my kind of subtle. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 9:02:11 AM UTC-5 philipr...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is really nice, I'm totally stealing your orga ideas. Here's what I 
> had prior to downsizing;
> [image: IMG_20190630_135353.jpg][image: IMG_20190630_135339.jpg]
>
> And here's now!
> [image: PXL_20210123_004846695.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Eric Marth]

I like the Blundstone 550s for wet weather and muddy rides. I work in 
construction, they last quite a long time. I find them pretty well 
waterproof. Have worn them for years. 

I like to ride in Adidas Sambas and Bedrock sandals :) 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 8:52:51 AM UTC-5 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:

> I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
> sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
> Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
> pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
> Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 
>
> On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:
>
>> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
>> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
>> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
>> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
>> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
>> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>>
>> --Ed C.
>> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>>
>>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>>
>>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>>> bother me all those years.
>>>
>>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>>
>>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New Bike day- Red Mixte but not a Raspberry Platypus.

[Marc Irwin]

No, Tom I didn't name this one.  I had a little too much fun building the 
first one.

Marc

On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 5:58:35 PM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:

> Looks very racy, Marc! 
> i also read everything you wrote about Byron during my search. 
> Does this one have a name?
> Tom
>
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>>
>> Nice looking build, I got one last year and built it very light for brisk 
>> city riding and commuting.  I love it.  The red is real, damn red.   
>>
>> Marc[image: 20200104_150722.jpg]
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 9:18:25 AM UTC-5 Tom Palmer wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> This is a cross post for IBob, with correction, now with Riv content.
>>> I built this Soma Buena Vista up over the winter and finally rode it. 
>>> Probably the best first ride on a new bike ever, maybe I am finally 
>>> understanding how to fit my own bikes. undoubtedly, things will change, but 
>>> its pretty close right now. The build is pretty Bobish- 650b with 38mm Pari 
>>> motos (red Hetres on the way as change #1) Shimano Deore rear hub Shimano 
>>> dyno front on velocity Dyad rims. Tektro r559 brakes that stop very well. 
>>> Riv Nitto Choco norm bars on long generic stem. SKS longboard fenders at 
>>> least for now. Front basket and rear rack for commuting if that is ever a 
>>> thing in the future. Drivtrain is 10 speed microshift shifters and Shimano 
>>> SLX deraillers. and  a vintage Shimano 600 crankset with Willow triplizer 
>>> 46/30 chainrings. Rides great- tweaked the bars a few times after about 5 
>>> miles into the ride. Hit  a couple steep hills and climbs well in the bends 
>>> of the Chocos. The interweb info on this for tire fit is way conservative. 
>>> I had 650bx48 Pari motos on at first and they fit fine, probably fenders 
>>> too. The handling is typical high trail drop road bike even with the swept 
>>> back bars. This is a little surprising. I was afraid it would be too light 
>>> but the longer chainstays may play into it- 450mm. Geometry is pretty road 
>>> bike too- 73 degree parallel with 45mm rake. This is the biggest frame they 
>>> still make-58cm. They did have a 62 in the past. The color is tremendous- 
>>> even better than anything on the web. Russo Red is what they call it and it 
>>> really pops. Real paint, not powder coat.
>>>
>>> Doing a tour of lakes Huron, Superior, and Michigan in the fall, and 
>>> this may be the ride.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, NY)]

I ride in Blundstones in the winter and wet weather and Vans when it's 
sunny and above ~50 or so. The Vans are super grippy on Monarchs. The 
Blundstones are fine if a little stiff and thick. It's hard to feel the 
pedal in them but they offer good wind/cold/rain protection. Crocs, 
Birkenstocks, and flipflops are great in the summer. 

On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 at 5:15:19 AM UTC-5 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
> the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
> $100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
> with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
> of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
> suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).
>
> --Ed C.
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
>> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>>
>> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
>> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
>> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
>> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
>> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>>
>> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy 
>> running shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't 
>> bother me all those years.
>>
>> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
>> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: question re frame-paint damage

[Eric Marth]

Hey Jim -- I had a similar problem and fielded some answers in this 
thread: 
https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/dKVx0QL_l_E/m/i-oS7AboCwAJ 

Mine was much worse!

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:57:02 PM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Just rub it a bit with some 00 steel wool and dab it with what you said, 
> or some primer or what have you. It will be fine, don't sweat it. I usually 
> wrap a slice of old inner tube where the clamp goes. And make sure no edge 
> is biting down, that the pressure is evenly distributed. 
> On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 7:40:35 PM UTC-5 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> So I did a dumb thing. I added a kick stand to a bike without a kickstand 
>> plate. And it messed up the paint real bad. It also slightly dented the 
>> frame. Really dumb.
>>
>> My question, and thanks in advance for any information. What should I do 
>> to prevent this from rusting? Blue nail polish? Clear enamel? I can't undo 
>> what I did, but I'd like to keep it from getting worse.
>>
>> [image: frame picture.jpg]
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Eric Marth]

Thanks jrstern, yeah, it's extreme! And part of my noodling quest for 
comfort. Figured any and every configuration is worth a shot. Thanks again 
:) 

On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:57:27 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Eric, those bars are tilted way low.  When I rode albatross I was always 
> far forward, why I switched to Choco, so I could reach more without a 
> change in shape, but I never angled my bars like that except for one test 
> ride where they slipped due to not being tightened enough.  I found that 
> position very uncomfortable.  
>
> Keep playing around and definitely stretch out a bit.  
>
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 3:46 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the replies! Shoji and Tom – I've attached a more recent 
>> picture of the bike. I do have the bars tilted down and the seat tilted 
>> back. The tilt appears exaggerated because the kickstand raises the back of 
>> the bike. 
>>
>> I think part of my problem is perhaps not leaning enough, I might be 
>> trying to sit upright and holding my head up. Need to relax, bend, let 
>> myself flex a bit more. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:45:42 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>>> Something to try that made my Albatross handlebars more comfortable:  
>>> tilt down the bars a bit so the grips are slightly lower than the hoops of 
>>> the bar.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:25:11 PM UTC-5 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>>
 Hi Eric,
 Is your neck pain from extending your neck? Did you have similar pain 
 when using the drop bars? Other pains/problems?

 Like you, I prefer the forward position of albatross bars-- it feels 
 natural for me, perhaps since I like to lean forward.

 If you would like a more upright/cruising position to try, I suggest 
 tilting the saddle nose up a little bit. The up-nose position makes me 
 feel 
 more comfortable sitting upright, and less comfortable leaning forward. 

 Good luck!
 shoji
 arlington ma


 On Friday, February 26, 2021 at 1:11:27 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Stumbled upon this thread and have some questions about my own 
> Albatross fitting. I converted to these bars from drops. I've yet to fall 
> in love with them and have problems with neck pain on rides longer than 
> 30 
> miles. 
>
> I'm on a threadless bike and have tried a few stems and configurations 
> with the same bars, a total of four positions. I have 110mm and 90mm 
> stems, 
> both with 17º rise. I've tried them with the stems flipped in both 
> configurations. I should also add that I'm on a 60cm bike that is a 
> little 
> big for me. I've got less than a fist full of seat post showing. 
>
> My current configuration is with the 110mm stem set up to give the 
> most rise. I find myself, in all configurations, favoring the grip in 
> front 
> of the brake levers. 
>
> Anyone out there have any ideas for improved fit?
> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 4:38:20 PM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks Pete, just got the Choco bars from Blue Lug as Riv is our with 
>> no known delivery time.  I paid a $27 premium for 2 shipped so not 
>> bad.  
>> On Friday, November 13, 2020 at 12:02:21 PM UTC-5 Pete P wrote:
>>
>>> I first tried upright h’bars on my older Atala bike. Just to see if 
>>> it
>>>
>>> would work for me. I bought Albatross bars and it was a revelation!
>>>
>>> So on my Atlantis I ditched my noodle drop bars and chose the Choco
>>>
>>> bars - just for variety.  I  like both of these. (I won’t go back to 
>>> those
>>>
>>> now uncomfortable drop bars). 
>>>
>>> They both have their plusses and minuses. The Albatross are wider and
>>>
>>> Go through the doorway with more caution. The Choco bar doesn’t rise
>>>
>>> up as much but the position on the curves is a favorite of mine. You 
>>> can’t go wrong with either one!
>>>
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 6:33:05 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Roberta.  

 On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:11 AM Roberta  wrote:

> My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; 
> they differ in the stem attachment. I have  the c-m ones because 
> that's 
> what came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile. 
>
> There is a lot of choco-love here   Good luck with your search. 
>
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:09:55 PM UTC-5, Joel S wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Roberta.  It is the Choco Norm I am thinking about. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Shoe recs for platforms

[Ed Carolipio]

I prefer Five Ten Freeriders for biking - all my bikes have flats - with 
the suede/mesh uppers and the rigid + grippy stealth rubber soles. MSRP is 
$100 but can be had for as low as $60 when they go on sale. My experience 
with Freeriders is they break in well and can take a beating. For a change 
of pace, I also wear low cut Vans with waffle soles, laces, and 
suede/canvas uppers (Berle Pro, BMX, Old Skool).

--Ed C.
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 at 6:17:22 PM UTC-8 Adam wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I've seen a few old threads on this topic, but am curious what shoes 
> people like for their platforms? I'm using the newish grip monarchs.
>
> I've been riding in an old pair of running shoes for a number of years, 
> but the holes are getting out of hand and it's time for them to retire. I 
> tried a pair of fairly rigid spd shoes that I had sitting around from a few 
> years ago (without the cleats) and while I like the rigidity, the grip 
> doesn't hold up when they're wet.
>
> I'm finding that I like the additional stiffness. Trying the mushy running 
> shoes again, they feel pretty bad. I'm not sure how they didn't bother me 
> all those years.
>
> So what's grippy (esp when wet), not too hot, decent in the rain, and 
> reasonably stiff?(doesn't have to be cycling specific)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts!
>

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