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[RBW] Re: Dynamo Wiring inside the Fork and Frame?

2023-03-22 Thread Matthew Williams

Hi everyone,

In the weeks to come I’m going to be revisiting the wire-inside-the-fork
trick. However, the hole is too small for the existing dynamo wires and I
do not want to enlarge the hole.

What would happen if I used a smaller-gauge wire inside the fork, to
connect the dynamo to the headlight?

Will a smaller-gauge wire be unable to handle the voltage/amperage from the
dynamo? Will the headlight and taillight outputs be weaker? Or will the
difference between the existing/stock wire and a smaller gauge be
imperceptible?

As always, your wisdom, advice, experience, and opinions are appreciated!

On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 10:13:40 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

Hi everyone,

Most bikes I see with the SON dynamo have the wire wound around the right
front fork blade. I want to run the wire inside the fork using the small
hole near the dropout.

I’ve already fished a thin wire through the fork as a leader i.e. I can
attach the leader to the SON dynamo wire and pull it through the fork,
unless the dynamo wire is too thick. Below are photos of the leader wire I
fished through the fork.

Is this possible, or is it a bad idea? Has anyone here managed to achieve
this setup? If so, how did you do it, and please post photos of your
internal wiring setups!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread Joe Bernard

I could see that being a conversation in 2001. By the time I was drawing up 
my custom in 2019 Rivs had been running the Mark's Rack location for so 
long that when I specified "the mid-fork braze-ons" Grant knew what I 
meant. If I'd wanted something different to match traditional low-rider 
racks I would have made sure I was clear about it. 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 7:53:50 PM UTC-7 Robert Tilley wrote:

> When I ordered my custom Riv I requested mounts for a front rack. Grant 
> stated it was tough to place the braze-ons since each rack has unique 
> attachment points. We settled on a location that works with the Nitto mini 
> rack.  
>
> So maybe Grant feels p-clamps are able to work around various rack 
> mounting positions?
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Brian Turner  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I’d be curious to hear what sort of justification Grant had for claiming 
> that p-clamps were superior to actual mid-fork braze ons. To me, a fixed 
> mounting point seems like a secure no-brainer… less fiddly bits, no 
> unsightly black rubber, and it looks so much cleaner.
>
> But then again, it wouldn’t surprise me either way.
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Junes  wrote:
>
> 
> Hi m f, welcome! Congrats on the bike. 
>
> Regarding your question: 
>
> It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without 
> rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special 
> request to not have them?
>
>
> It’s not totally unusual for Rivs, particularly early-ish ones, to have 
> forks devoid of rack mount eyelets. Two of my Rivs don’t have them, one an 
> Atlantis, explicitly positioned as an all-rounder, and one a Glorius. 
> (Incidentally both were Toyo built.) In an early Atlantis brochure, Grant 
> even wrote that a lack of such fork eyelets is better because using clamps 
> to attach rack struts to forks is superior. All recent Rivs have eyelets 
> galore, though.  
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 19:08, Andrew Letton  wrote:
>
> 
> Nice bike!
> My All-Rounder and Road Standard have Joe Bell paint and both have the JB 
> logo on the left chainstay like this:
>
> <1679526443662blob.jpg>
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:03:03 AM GMT+11, m f <
> rockthr...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Hi - I'm new here! Not sure how many of you saw this on eBay over the past 
> few months, but I was able to work with the seller and found a way to buy 
> this 2000 All-Rounder (Curt Goodrich). I have a couple updates in mind 
> (sweptback handlebar, Brooks saddle), but those will happen with time. 
> First step will be new tires and tuning the mechanicals (Dura Ace except 
> for crankset) so I can get a ride or two under my belt. If the seller is in 
> this group - thanks again for all the help!
>
> Questions for the group: 
> It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without 
> rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special 
> request to not have them?
> What are the markers that indicate the frame was painted at Joe Bell's 
> shop?
>
>
>
> 
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:09:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> The All Rounder like the XO-1 before it gets a lot of interest and praise, 
> but I think that, like the XO-1 that preceeded it, it is an early design 
> that has been superseded and bettered by later Grantian bikes, starting 
> with the Atlantis and continuing with the Sam Hillborne and doubtless the 
> more recent models.
>
> I say this having owned an XO-1 and having bought a custom Road based on 
> the All Rounder, with lighter (753) tubing and slightly more upright hta 
> (IIRC). My 1999 and 2003 Road customs, also built for 26" wheels, are 
> better "All Round" both on pavement and in dirt than either XO-1 and the 
> first Road custom, with much longer chainstays, slightly sacker head, and 
> upsloping tts with extended head tubes. 
>
> I say again that the later Road customs ride better on dirt, particularly 
> sandy surfaces, than the XO-1 and the first gen, AR-based road custom.
>
> I think -- but I am open to reasoned rebuttal -- that an Atlantis or Sam 
> Hill would be better for all round riding than either XOs or ARs.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread rltilley

When I ordered my custom Riv I requested mounts for a front rack. Grant stated it was tough to place the braze-ons since each rack has unique attachment points. We settled on a location that works with the Nitto mini rack. So maybe Grant feels p-clamps are able to work around various rack mounting positions?Robert TilleySan Diego, CA Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 22, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Brian Turner wrote:I’d be curious to hear what sort of justification Grant had for claiming that p-clamps were superior to actual mid-fork braze ons. To me, a fixed mounting point seems like a secure no-brainer… less fiddly bits, no unsightly black rubber, and it looks so much cleaner.But then again, it wouldn’t surprise me either way.On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Junes wrote:Hi m f, welcome! Congrats on the bike. Regarding your question: It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to not have them?It’s not totally unusual for Rivs, particularly early-ish ones, to have forks devoid of rack mount eyelets. Two of my Rivs don’t have them, one an Atlantis, explicitly positioned as an all-rounder, and one a Glorius. (Incidentally both were Toyo built.) In an early Atlantis brochure, Grant even wrote that a lack of such fork eyelets is better because using clamps to attach rack struts to forks is superior. All recent Rivs have eyelets galore, though. On Mar 22, 2023, at 19:08, Andrew Letton wrote:
Nice bike!My All-Rounder and Road Standard have Joe Bell paint and both have the JB logo on the left chainstay like this:<1679526443662blob.jpg>cheers,Andrew in Sydney

On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 10:03:03 AM GMT+11, m f wrote:

Hi - I'm new here! Not sure how many of you saw this on eBay over the past few months, but I was able to work with the seller and found a way to buy this 2000 All-Rounder (Curt Goodrich). I have a couple updates in mind (sweptback handlebar, Brooks saddle), but those will happen with time. First step will be new tires and tuning the mechanicals (Dura Ace except for crankset) so I can get a ride or two under my belt. If the seller is in this group - thanks again for all the help!Questions for the group: It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to not have them?What are the markers that indicate the frame was painted at Joe Bell's shop?On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:09:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:The All Rounder like the XO-1 before it gets a lot of interest and praise, but I think that, like the XO-1 that preceeded it, it is an early design that has been superseded and bettered by later Grantian bikes, starting with the Atlantis and continuing with the Sam Hillborne and doubtless the more recent models.I say this having owned an XO-1 and having bought a custom Road based on the All Rounder, with lighter (753) tubing and slightly more upright hta (IIRC). My 1999 and 2003 Road customs, also built for 26" wheels, are better "All Round" both on pavement and in dirt than either XO-1 and the first Road custom, with much longer chainstays, slightly sacker head, and upsloping tts with extended head tubes. I say again that the later Road customs ride better on dirt, particularly sandy surfaces, than the XO-1 and the first gen, AR-based road custom.I think -- but I am open to reasoned rebuttal -- that an Atlantis or Sam Hill would be better for all round riding than either XOs or ARs.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Clem Smith Jr. H

2023-03-22 Thread Jason D

Awesome! Thanks for letting me know on here Gary I'll check and make sure 
it made it to my inbox.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 3:31:00 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Jason, sent you a pm yesterday about your Clem.
>
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 8:26:01 PM UTC-4 Jason D wrote:
>
>> Haha yes indeed - thanks Joe!
>>
>> On Saturday, March 18, 2023 at 2:52:05 PM UTC-4 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Beautiful bike & I know that spot.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 18, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Jason D  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi friends!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hoping this bike finds a great home with one of you! Forgive me I get a 
>>> little attached to my bikes haha and I have a soft spot for this one. 
>>>
>>> This is a 52cm Clem H, the model that has the curved seat stays which I 
>>> think look very nice. It hasn’t been a trail bike, I just ride it casually 
>>> on the paved bike trails around Columbus, OH, so it is in very good 
>>> condition. The bike paths in Columbus are great by the way if you’re ever 
>>> up this way.
>>>
>>> I’m starting off offering this as a pickup or meetup preferred. I am in 
>>> Columbus OH, Charleston WV, Asheville NC and all points in between quite 
>>> frequently so hoping that works for someone.
>>>
>>> Pedals, bottle cage, and saddle not included.
>>>
>>> $950
>>>
>>> Microshift Rear Derailleur
>>> Shimano Alivio Front Derailleur
>>> SunRace Thumb Shifters 3 x 7
>>> Sugino Triple Crankset 175mm 46-38-28
>>> Shimano MF-HG37 Sprocket 7 Speed 13-28
>>> Planet Bike Eco Rack rear rack
>>> Kenda Kranium 1.75” x 27.5” Tires
>>> Sta-Tru 27.5” wheelset - Schrader valve
>>> Nitto Technomic Stem and Velo Orange Handlebars
>>> VO Cork grips (one is cracked and will need glued or replaced)
>>> Tektro Eclipse brake levers
>>> Tektro V Brakes
>>>
>>> Kickstand
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> More pics: 
>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1YO10FjeUI-utFfsHi6MYi6lqPpXyA19h?usp=sharing
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[RBW] Re: Free for postage: Old Italian wool + nylon panels cycling jacket, many moth holes repaired

2023-03-22 Thread Patrick Moore

Forgot to add: This fits me with Asian 5'10" 170 lb build -- long torso,
short arms by Anglo standards. I don't know my sleeve length but if you
have long arms you probably want to pass. It's somewhat wider and shorter
than perfect on me, and the collar is tight for the width.

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 8:36 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Still very usable, but this one has many moth holes, with most repaired
> including 2 that I just got somewhat crudely sewn up, and some other repair
> stitching on the arms. I've got another that fits slightly better so this
> one is free for postage CONUS.
>
> ~26" pit to pit and ~26" from bottom of collar to bottom of rear hem.
> Single rear pocket with 2 zipped openings. Quite warm for weight.
>
> You'll need to paypal me $17.10 (net please) for a medium Priority Mail
> box, send me your mailing address, and be patient.
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Catch and (very slow) release of 1997 Waterford-built Rivendell Mountain Bike.

2023-03-22 Thread R. Alexis

Nice bike!. I have my rear brake cable housing routed the same way. thought 
of changing it, but don't feel the need. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:04:10 PM UTC-5 Scott Marriott wrote:

> I was the lucky duck who grabbed the following from Ted Grant a few years 
> ago. 
>
> Sadly it never really fit me and I really need to let it go to someone who 
> will use it. 
>
> Here's Ted's original listing and I've not changed anything except adding 
> fenders, a Nitto Canti Rack, and a Wald 137 basket.  (All of which can 
> remain for as small fee or be removed.)
>
> I also ran this with a shutter precision dynamo and front light that can 
> be possibly included. 
>
> The original price for the below stands. - $1250. 
>
> Shipping at cost. 
>
> Pickup or reasonable drop-off from Chicago also available (and probably 
> preferred.)
>
> Scott Marriott - Chicago (Hyde Park)
>
> Here are a few more pictures to show the size & to show the seat cluster 
> that has some scrapes from my fumbling to stop the seatpost from slipping. 
> (Also swapped out the seatpost clamp bolt with an vintage Campy mountain 
> quick release.) - https://photos.app.goo.gl/pvskR3Wnw9Fwy3HfA
>
> --The original posting
>
> Up for sale is my 1997 Waterford-built Rivendell Mountain Bike. Asking 
> price is $1250 plus shipping, which will depend on where and how.
>
> It is a 17.5" frame, with a 55cm top tube (57cm effective). Tubing is 
> Reynolds 753 and 531. Color is classic pumpkin orange with cream head tube. 
> Rivendell Frame Geometry sheet from the time says:
> ST angle: 73
> HT angle: 72
> Fork Rake: 40
> Chain Stay: 42.5
> BB Drop: 40
> Over Locknut: 132
>
> Condition is very good, though there are some dings in the paint. Selling 
> because I've replaced it with a more road-oriented big tire bike. 
>
> It is built up with:
> SunTour XC Pro cranks & derailers
> Tange BB
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> 8-speed cassette (yes, this combination works!)
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Rat Trap Pass tires
> TRP Revox brakes and RRP levers
> Tange Seiki threadless headset, but fork is threaded (yes, this works!)
> Specialized/Nitto seatpost
> Nitto Dirt Drop stem 
> Nitto Dirt Drop bars
> no pedals, and saddle is not included
>
> [image: IMG_0354.jpeg][image: IMG_0356.jpeg][image: IMG_0357.jpeg][image: 
> IMG_0359.jpeg][image: IMG_0362.jpeg][image: IMG_0363.jpeg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread Joe Bernard

Long wheelbase: I've ridden a bunch of both, they're both good but my 
custom is a longbike cuz it's MAGIC. 

What Grant's opinion was 20-25 years ago: has changed on a bunch of stuff. 
The first iteration of Atlantis didn't come with mid-fork mounts, now just 
about everything from the company does. He changed his mind. 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 6:24:35 PM UTC-7 R. Alexis wrote:

> Hello all. 
>
> I don't have an All Rounder, but I do have the first generation Waterford 
> built Rivendell Mountain. Those first generation Rivendell Road, Allrounder 
> and Mountain offered several options when ordering. Rack mount placement, 
> Headtube extention, cream painted accent headtube, etc. I remember when 
> ordering and mulling over things asking Grant about getting the bike built 
> with KGB(Koski, Guy, Breezer) hooded drop outs on the frame and rollercam 
> mounts. He gave a had no on the Breezer drop outs, but did offer to do the 
> rollercam brake mounts. I ended up just doing standard canti brakes. 
>
> Although a lot of the features offered on later Rivendells are nice, the 
> more time passes, the more I am less likely to give up my Rivendell 
> Mountain. It is still configured the way I built it originally. I have 
> changed out things, just to change them back. Swapped out the Suntour 
> XC-Pro thumb shifters for XC-Pro Wishbone shifters, then changed back. 
> Changed out the Wilderness Trail Bikes SST saddle for a Brooks B17, then 
> changed back. I did finally swap out the Ritchey CrossBite 1.5 tires for 
> Schwalbe Sammy Slick and changed the Profile Design Kage for a Tallac Duel 
> stainless steel bottle cage.  I have not ridden any current Rivendell 
> offerings. Don't know that I have ridden any other Rivendell offering, 
> other than my Mountain. 
>
> I do have a Bridgestone 1991 MB-0(Zip), 1993 XO-1 and 1994 MB-1. I enjoy 
> riding my MB-1 and XO-1 when I pull them out. 
>
> I am a bit skeptical on the whole long wheelbase iteration that are the 
> new Rivs. That is mostly an issue of being used to a less long wheelbase. 
> Pretty sure they ride fine. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:50:18 AM UTC-5 Sean Steinle wrote:
>
>> I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I honestly can't find 
>> much about the All Rounder, in the way of ride reports, reviews, etc. It 
>> seems to be a Holy Grail bike for several, and I'm curious, is it simply 
>> the fact that they're rare and hard to find now, or is there truly 
>> something special about it? 
>>
>> I remember Grant talking about the old Bridgestones in an article I came 
>> across, and his sentiment was essentially 'They're fine bikes, but they 
>> don't stack up against Rivs'. At least part of his reasoning was that he'd 
>> continued to refine with Rivendell, and the improvements were drastic 
>> enough that he felt the Rivs were in a different league. This makes me 
>> wonder if Grant would have a similar feeling about the All Rounder. I'd 
>> love to hear from those who own/have owned one. What's the verdict, is it 
>> truly one of the best Rivs out there? Worth the price of admission if one 
>> is lucky enough to find one in their size?
>>
>> Thanks for humoring me :)
>> Sean in Kansas
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread R. Alexis

Hello all. 

I don't have an All Rounder, but I do have the first generation Waterford 
built Rivendell Mountain. Those first generation Rivendell Road, Allrounder 
and Mountain offered several options when ordering. Rack mount placement, 
Headtube extention, cream painted accent headtube, etc. I remember when 
ordering and mulling over things asking Grant about getting the bike built 
with KGB(Koski, Guy, Breezer) hooded drop outs on the frame and rollercam 
mounts. He gave a had no on the Breezer drop outs, but did offer to do the 
rollercam brake mounts. I ended up just doing standard canti brakes. 

Although a lot of the features offered on later Rivendells are nice, the 
more time passes, the more I am less likely to give up my Rivendell 
Mountain. It is still configured the way I built it originally. I have 
changed out things, just to change them back. Swapped out the Suntour 
XC-Pro thumb shifters for XC-Pro Wishbone shifters, then changed back. 
Changed out the Wilderness Trail Bikes SST saddle for a Brooks B17, then 
changed back. I did finally swap out the Ritchey CrossBite 1.5 tires for 
Schwalbe Sammy Slick and changed the Profile Design Kage for a Tallac Duel 
stainless steel bottle cage.  I have not ridden any current Rivendell 
offerings. Don't know that I have ridden any other Rivendell offering, 
other than my Mountain. 

I do have a Bridgestone 1991 MB-0(Zip), 1993 XO-1 and 1994 MB-1. I enjoy 
riding my MB-1 and XO-1 when I pull them out. 

I am a bit skeptical on the whole long wheelbase iteration that are the new 
Rivs. That is mostly an issue of being used to a less long wheelbase. 
Pretty sure they ride fine. 

Thanks,

Reginald Alexis

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:50:18 AM UTC-5 Sean Steinle wrote:

> I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I honestly can't find 
> much about the All Rounder, in the way of ride reports, reviews, etc. It 
> seems to be a Holy Grail bike for several, and I'm curious, is it simply 
> the fact that they're rare and hard to find now, or is there truly 
> something special about it? 
>
> I remember Grant talking about the old Bridgestones in an article I came 
> across, and his sentiment was essentially 'They're fine bikes, but they 
> don't stack up against Rivs'. At least part of his reasoning was that he'd 
> continued to refine with Rivendell, and the improvements were drastic 
> enough that he felt the Rivs were in a different league. This makes me 
> wonder if Grant would have a similar feeling about the All Rounder. I'd 
> love to hear from those who own/have owned one. What's the verdict, is it 
> truly one of the best Rivs out there? Worth the price of admission if one 
> is lucky enough to find one in their size?
>
> Thanks for humoring me :)
> Sean in Kansas
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

2023-03-22 Thread J Schwartz

Doug , if you're referring to the 63mm VO fenders.. They should fit.
I believe they are featured in this blog post from a few years ago on a 29" 
wheeled App with some mid-50mm tires
https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/185091706269/who-rides-an-appaloosa-john-a-familiar-face-in

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 8:37:05 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Well I haven’t done anything with them yet, but I went ahead and ordered 
> the 700C 63mm fenders while they were on sale.  My thought is that I just 
> skip the centimeter or so where the fenders pass between the forks and the 
> seat stays when I’m reshaping. I doubt the minor difference in width will 
> be noticeable , but I can’t think of any reason why it shouldn’t work just 
> fine.  I’ll update with pics when I get to work on them…
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:02 PM Paul Yokanovich  wrote:
>
>> That's an idea Doug, however by reshaping the 63mm 700c fender to fit the 
>> smaller diameter 650b you would be widening the fender.  You would probably 
>> want to start with a fender that's more narrower.
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:34:50 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>>
>>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>>
>>> Edwin
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want 
 to spend though :^(

 I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
 reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
 you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
 would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
 ugly or ruined…

 Doug

 On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
 pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:

> Doug,
>
> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>
> Paul
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

2023-03-22 Thread Doug Van Cleve

Well I haven’t done anything with them yet, but I went ahead and ordered
the 700C 63mm fenders while they were on sale.  My thought is that I just
skip the centimeter or so where the fenders pass between the forks and the
seat stays when I’m reshaping. I doubt the minor difference in width will
be noticeable , but I can’t think of any reason why it shouldn’t work just
fine.  I’ll update with pics when I get to work on them…

Doug

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 4:02 PM Paul Yokanovich  wrote:

> That's an idea Doug, however by reshaping the 63mm 700c fender to fit the
> smaller diameter 650b you would be widening the fender.  You would probably
> want to start with a fender that's more narrower.
>
>
> Paul
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:34:50 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:
>
>> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>>
>> Edwin
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to
>>> spend though :^(
>>>
>>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to
>>> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if
>>> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it
>>> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up
>>> ugly or ruined…
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
>>> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>>>
 Doug,

 I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my
 daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These
 fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I
 would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.

 Paul

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread Brian Turner

I’d be curious to hear what sort of justification Grant had for claiming that p-clamps were superior to actual mid-fork braze ons. To me, a fixed mounting point seems like a secure no-brainer… less fiddly bits, no unsightly black rubber, and it looks so much cleaner.But then again, it wouldn’t surprise me either way.On Mar 22, 2023, at 8:15 PM, Junes wrote:Hi m f, welcome! Congrats on the bike. Regarding your question: It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to not have them?It’s not totally unusual for Rivs, particularly early-ish ones, to have forks devoid of rack mount eyelets. Two of my Rivs don’t have them, one an Atlantis, explicitly positioned as an all-rounder, and one a Glorius. (Incidentally both were Toyo built.) In an early Atlantis brochure, Grant even wrote that a lack of such fork eyelets is better because using clamps to attach rack struts to forks is superior. All recent Rivs have eyelets galore, though. On Mar 22, 2023, at 19:08, Andrew Letton wrote:
Nice bike!My All-Rounder and Road Standard have Joe Bell paint and both have the JB logo on the left chainstay like this:<1679526443662blob.jpg>cheers,Andrew in Sydney

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread Junes

Hi m f, welcome! Congrats on the bike. Regarding your question: It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to not have them?It’s not totally unusual for Rivs, particularly early-ish ones, to have forks devoid of rack mount eyelets. Two of my Rivs don’t have them, one an Atlantis, explicitly positioned as an all-rounder, and one a Glorius. (Incidentally both were Toyo built.) In an early Atlantis brochure, Grant even wrote that a lack of such fork eyelets is better because using clamps to attach rack struts to forks is superior. All recent Rivs have eyelets galore, though. On Mar 22, 2023, at 19:08, Andrew Letton wrote:
Nice bike!My All-Rounder and Road Standard have Joe Bell paint and both have the JB logo on the left chainstay like this:<1679526443662blob.jpg>cheers,Andrew in Sydney

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread Andrew Letton

My Joe Stark '99 All-Rounder has rack mounts on the fork blades. Was it maybe
just that Curt had not yet done rack mounts on the fork blades for Rivs at that
point?cheers,Andrew in Sydney
On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 11:02:02 AM GMT+11, James Valiensi
wrote:

Hi,When I ordered my custom Rivendell in 2002 I requested rack mounts on the
fork blades. They hadn’t done this before. I had to send a drawing showing what
I wanted. They agreed and Curt Goodrich made my frame. Joe Stark was supposed
to be my builder, but he went of the reversvation before he started on it. I
met Curt a few times and I’m super happy with his work.
So, front rack mounts were not part of the normal Rivendell catalog 20 years
ago.
James

On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:31 AM, m f wrote:
Hi - I'm new here! Not sure how many of you saw this on eBay over the past few
months, but I was able to work with the seller and found a way to buy this 2000
All-Rounder (Curt Goodrich). I have a couple updates in mind (sweptback
handlebar, Brooks saddle), but those will happen with time. First step will be
new tires and tuning the mechanicals (Dura Ace except for crankset) so I can
get a ride or two under my belt. If the seller is in this group - thanks again
for all the help!
Questions for the group: It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for
that matter, without rack mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have
been a special request to not have them?What are the markers that indicate the
frame was painted at Joe Bell's shop?

On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:09:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

The All Rounder like the XO-1 before it gets a lot of interest and praise, but
I think that, like the XO-1 that preceeded it, it is an early design that has
been superseded and bettered by later Grantian bikes, starting with the
Atlantis and continuing with the Sam Hillborne and doubtless the more recent
models.
I say this having owned an XO-1 and having bought a custom Road based on the
All Rounder, with lighter (753) tubing and slightly more upright hta (IIRC). My
1999 and 2003 Road customs, also built for 26" wheels, are better "All Round"
both on pavement and in dirt than either XO-1 and the first Road custom, with
much longer chainstays, slightly sacker head, and upsloping tts with extended
head tubes.
I say again that the later Road customs ride better on dirt, particularly sandy
surfaces, than the XO-1 and the first gen, AR-based road custom.
I think -- but I am open to reasoned rebuttal -- that an Atlantis or Sam Hill
would be better for all round riding than either XOs or ARs.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

2023-03-22 Thread James Valiensi

Hi,
When I ordered my custom Rivendell in 2002 I requested rack mounts on the fork 
blades. They hadn’t done this before. I had to send a drawing showing what I 
wanted. They agreed and Curt Goodrich made my frame. Joe Stark was supposed to 
be my builder, but he went of the reversvation before he started on it. I met 
Curt a few times and I’m super happy with his work. 

So, front rack mounts were not part of the normal Rivendell catalog 20 years 
ago.

James

> On Mar 10, 2023, at 11:31 AM, m f  wrote:
> 
> Hi - I'm new here! Not sure how many of you saw this on eBay over the past 
> few months, but I was able to work with the seller and found a way to buy 
> this 2000 All-Rounder (Curt Goodrich). I have a couple updates in mind 
> (sweptback handlebar, Brooks saddle), but those will happen with time. First 
> step will be new tires and tuning the mechanicals (Dura Ace except for 
> crankset) so I can get a ride or two under my belt. If the seller is in this 
> group - thanks again for all the help!
> 
> Questions for the group: 
> It seems odd to find an All Rounder, or any Riv for that matter, without rack 
> mounts on the upper/mid fork blade. Would this have been a special request to 
> not have them?
> What are the markers that indicate the frame was painted at Joe Bell's shop?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 8:09:10 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
> The All Rounder like the XO-1 before it gets a lot of interest and praise, 
> but I think that, like the XO-1 that preceeded it, it is an early design that 
> has been superseded and bettered by later Grantian bikes, starting with the 
> Atlantis and continuing with the Sam Hillborne and doubtless the more recent 
> models.
> 
> I say this having owned an XO-1 and having bought a custom Road based on the 
> All Rounder, with lighter (753) tubing and slightly more upright hta (IIRC). 
> My 1999 and 2003 Road customs, also built for 26" wheels, are better "All 
> Round" both on pavement and in dirt than either XO-1 and the first Road 
> custom, with much longer chainstays, slightly sacker head, and upsloping tts 
> with extended head tubes. 
> 
> I say again that the later Road customs ride better on dirt, particularly 
> sandy surfaces, than the XO-1 and the first gen, AR-based road custom.
> 
> I think -- but I am open to reasoned rebuttal -- that an Atlantis or Sam Hill 
> would be better for all round riding than either XOs or ARs.
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[RBW] WTB: IRD Sub-C FD

2023-03-22 Thread J Schwartz

Greetings, 
These  
are sold out at Riv...
Curious if anyone picked one up and doesn't need it.
I'm rebuilding my Sam and it looks like my current FD is going to be too 
long for the 40/30 crankset going on.
I'll get the Stubby skeleton key FD from RBW if no one is wanting to part 
with their IRD Sub-C

Thanks
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 48cm Sam Hillborne

2023-03-22 Thread GEofEndless Velolove

Certainly. If you have an address for shipping I can get an approximate
price for shipping cost.

Please let me know if you have any questions about the bike.

Thanks!

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 5:06 PM Ahmed Elgasseir 
wrote:

> Would you ship to San Mateo Ca?
>
> Thx
> A
>
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:34 PM G.E.  wrote:
>
>> Dropping the price to $1200. Contact with questions. Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:25:24 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:
>>
>>> Just commenting to bump to the top. Also, the bike has now been cleaned
>>> since the ice has thawed (at least for a bit). :)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:
>>>
 I am selling my 48cm Sam Hillborne. Never thought this day would come,
 but here we are -- Must thin the herd. I am the original owner (purchased
 in 2010). This is being sold as a full-build, as pictured. This bike has
 been used and well-loved, but it has always been stored (when not in use)
 indoors. Buyer should expect use marks on everything, paint chips, etc.
 It's not beat up, but it was used.  I have many photos that are closer-up,
 so just reach out if you'd like details or more photos.

 - 48cm Samuel Hillborne frameset
 - 170mm Sugino crank with 46-36-26 (or 24) teeth (I need to verify the
 little one, but if it makes a difference for you, just ask, and I'm happy
 to double check)
 - Sora front derailleur
 - XT rear derailleur
 - Shimano bar end shifters (3x9)
 - Cassette is 11-32
 - Tektro cantilever brakes
 -  Nitto stem (5cm reach) - note that it is at its lowest point, but
 could be raised higher, if needed/wanted
 - Schwalbe Marathon tires (650Bx42 - they only have about 10 miles on
 them)
 - 650B wheelset (purchased from Rivendell after owning the bike for
 several years... they may have a few hundred miles on them, at most)
 - Albatross handlebars (currently flipped upside down)
 - Brooks B-17 leather saddle
 - Nitto Campee rear rack
 - VP flat pedals
 - Two bottle cages; one of them is designed to hold a larger bottle,
 the other is a standard King cage
 - Kickstand
 - Currently, the handlebars have leather bar tape that has been
 well-loved ( new owner will likely want new bar tape, but I'm happy to send
 it along)
 - Nitto F15 Handlebar bag support. I have a bag I've used on this, and
 am happy to send it along to the new owner, but be aware it has been
 plastered with various patches over the years which may or may not be to
 the new owner's liking. :-) It's a great bag though!

 Anything I've left out, please feel free to drop me a note. I'm asking
 $1500 (buyer will pay exact shipping costs). The bike is not yet packed up,
 but if someone has interest, I can get a box and get it packed to get a
 shipping quote. Also, I've given the Sam a wet wipe down, but note that it
 could use a "real" bath at some point. Everything is frozen here for the
 foreseeable winter though, so I don't think I can make it happen at this
 time.
 [image: SH1.jpg]
 [image: SH2.jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 48cm Sam Hillborne

2023-03-22 Thread Ahmed Elgasseir

Would you ship to San Mateo Ca?

Thx
A

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:34 PM G.E.  wrote:

> Dropping the price to $1200. Contact with questions. Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:25:24 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:
>
>> Just commenting to bump to the top. Also, the bike has now been cleaned
>> since the ice has thawed (at least for a bit). :)
>>
>> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:
>>
>>> I am selling my 48cm Sam Hillborne. Never thought this day would come,
>>> but here we are -- Must thin the herd. I am the original owner (purchased
>>> in 2010). This is being sold as a full-build, as pictured. This bike has
>>> been used and well-loved, but it has always been stored (when not in use)
>>> indoors. Buyer should expect use marks on everything, paint chips, etc.
>>> It's not beat up, but it was used.  I have many photos that are closer-up,
>>> so just reach out if you'd like details or more photos.
>>>
>>> - 48cm Samuel Hillborne frameset
>>> - 170mm Sugino crank with 46-36-26 (or 24) teeth (I need to verify the
>>> little one, but if it makes a difference for you, just ask, and I'm happy
>>> to double check)
>>> - Sora front derailleur
>>> - XT rear derailleur
>>> - Shimano bar end shifters (3x9)
>>> - Cassette is 11-32
>>> - Tektro cantilever brakes
>>> -  Nitto stem (5cm reach) - note that it is at its lowest point, but
>>> could be raised higher, if needed/wanted
>>> - Schwalbe Marathon tires (650Bx42 - they only have about 10 miles on
>>> them)
>>> - 650B wheelset (purchased from Rivendell after owning the bike for
>>> several years... they may have a few hundred miles on them, at most)
>>> - Albatross handlebars (currently flipped upside down)
>>> - Brooks B-17 leather saddle
>>> - Nitto Campee rear rack
>>> - VP flat pedals
>>> - Two bottle cages; one of them is designed to hold a larger bottle, the
>>> other is a standard King cage
>>> - Kickstand
>>> - Currently, the handlebars have leather bar tape that has been
>>> well-loved ( new owner will likely want new bar tape, but I'm happy to send
>>> it along)
>>> - Nitto F15 Handlebar bag support. I have a bag I've used on this, and
>>> am happy to send it along to the new owner, but be aware it has been
>>> plastered with various patches over the years which may or may not be to
>>> the new owner's liking. :-) It's a great bag though!
>>>
>>> Anything I've left out, please feel free to drop me a note. I'm asking
>>> $1500 (buyer will pay exact shipping costs). The bike is not yet packed up,
>>> but if someone has interest, I can get a box and get it packed to get a
>>> shipping quote. Also, I've given the Sam a wet wipe down, but note that it
>>> could use a "real" bath at some point. Everything is frozen here for the
>>> foreseeable winter though, so I don't think I can make it happen at this
>>> time.
>>> [image: SH1.jpg]
>>> [image: SH2.jpg]
>>>
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[RBW] WTB Rambouillet 54 or Bleriot 55

2023-03-22 Thread mike naranjo

Hi Everyone,

I realize this may be a long shot, but please let me know if you have any 
leads on a Rambouillet in a size 54 or a Bleriot in a size 55.  Thank you!

Best,

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 38x24 Silver crankset, Albastache bars, Silver2 shifters + bar-end pods + thumb shift mounts

2023-03-22 Thread Joshua Yearsley

Okay, the lot is sold!

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 11:37:02 AM UTC-5 row.n.2...@gmail.com wrote:

> Crank length:
> Mine is 170.
> Measured from center of crank bolt to center of pedal axle.
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2023, 9:40 AM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
>> What’s the crank length?
>> -Kai
>>
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 3:38:11 PM UTC-5 jdyea...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I went down a Rivendell rabbit hole and tried out a bunch of stuff, but 
>>> I've decided to go a different direction. I've used all of these for just a 
>>> few rides, so they're basically as close to new as you can get.
>>>
>>> 38x24 Silver crankset
>>> Nitto Albastache bars
>>> Silver2 shifters x2
>>> Silver bar-end pods x2
>>> Silver thumb-shift mounts x2
>>>
>>> I'd love to ship all this out to one person if possible. All together, 
>>> it goes for ~$630 new. How about $500 shipped? Also accepting best offers 
>>> within reason.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Josh
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

2023-03-22 Thread Tyler Dewey

Leah,

Pops spent a lot of time this year digitizing all the photos from a big 
bike tour we did together in 1996. We rode from Seattle to Minnesota. I 
think he recently posted some of them to his Flickr. I'll have to track 
down the link (or he can post it here). I always liked riding (and the 
conversations and food that accompanied riding), but reading the Rivendell 
Readers when I was younger definitely helped develop my love of bikes as 
more than an exercise machine. 

-Tyler

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 6:47:51 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Tyler, I love it. This is the greatest reply, ever. If you two dig up more 
> of these photographic gems, please show them to us here. I love that he 
> actually passed a love of cycling to you - I think we all wish we we knew 
> how to do that. My boys will ride, but they don’t get the joy I get from 
> it. They do it to get around. And I am not sure they ever look down at 
> their Clems and think they are beautiful bikes. They just ride.
>
> On Mar 9, 2023, at 11:37 AM, Tyler Dewey  wrote:
>
> Leah,
>
>
> Yes, that is me in those photos! Pops and I have been riding together 
> pretty much since I was born. I celebrated my 1st birthday on a bike tour 
> and never really stopped. I don't know how many miles we logged together, 
> but I imagine it would qualify for an around the world patch. Pops 
> introduced me to the Rivendell Reader when I was in high school, and now I 
> ride the black and cream canti-Hillborne he posted. 
>
> -Tyler
> Durham, NC
>
> On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 2:43:34 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Am I understanding that this is you and your son, Jock? You could be 
>> *brothers. 
>> *What great photos and a great story. Though I will say that first photo 
>> of you and the little guy has me thinking he might have been safer stuffed 
>> in a Backabike bag of his own, but it was the 80s! 
>>
>> L
>>
>> On Mar 5, 2023, at 12:08 PM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/50736923117/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/146626768@N06/49733185021/in/album-72157717416628946/
>>
>> Jock Dewey
>> On Saturday, March 4, 2023 at 6:23:32 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was looking through an old photo album of my bikes. My boys were tiny, 
>>> my dog was young, and my Betty Foy was sparkly and new. But you look at 
>>> things through different eyes over the years, and today, I came across a 
>>> couple of regrettable old photos that made me want to cry and then laugh, 
>>> simultaneously. It was 2013. I was obviously the most excited person in my 
>>> family about biking. I had just gotten that Betty Foy and thus I could do 
>>> just about anything. I invented all sorts of adventures for us - fun things 
>>> but we had to get there by bike. I dragged my two tiny boys along, 
>>> regardless of their sub-standard bikes. Even the dog was not spared. Surely 
>>> this must be List-appropriate? There will be lots of photos of a Betty Foy, 
>>> and that very bike was the source of all the “adventures” I inflicted on my 
>>> tiny family members.
>>>
>>> (I’m going to post the photos, with commentary in the following entry. 
>>> This, because I have never figured out how to get photos posted in the body 
>>> of this message - I only can do it from email after the first post arrives 
>>> there. If anyone has a hot tip about that, I’m all ears.)
>>>
>>> Who else has tortured their family with their own love of bicycles? Who 
>>> else has told themselves, “Well, it’s good for them.” Who else was a slow 
>>> learner but eventually got their act together and bought better equipment 
>>> for a better experience for the tortured family members?
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Widest fenders that easily fit a Joe Appa?

2023-03-22 Thread Paul Yokanovich

That's an idea Doug, however by reshaping the 63mm 700c fender to fit the 
smaller diameter 650b you would be widening the fender.  You would probably 
want to start with a fender that's more narrower.


Paul
On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 3:34:50 PM UTC-6 Edwin W wrote:

> Berthoud 60mm (700c) fit my 58cm Joe Appa fine with no manipulation.
>
> Edwin
>
> On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:48:37 PM UTC-6 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks Paul!  Great info, I think Honjos are more scratch than I want to 
>> spend though :^(
>>
>> I wonder if getting a set of the V-O 63mm 700c fenders with the plan to 
>> reshape them would be nuts?  Apparently you just gently bend them as if 
>> you’re trying to widen them and it tightens up the curve…  I suppose it 
>> would be pretty cool if it worked, and pretty darn lame if they ended up 
>> ugly or ruined…
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 9:36 AM Paul (GlennsBikeGarage) <
>> pa...@myrealagent.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Doug,
>>>
>>> I'm currently installing the Honjo H80 62mm smooth fenders on my 
>>> daughter's 51cm Joe Appaloosa (650b) with 42mm Grand Bois tires. These 
>>> fenders fit without any special bending, cutting, or manipulation and I 
>>> would consider these the widest fender that will fit.  Hope that helps.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Has anybody 650'ed a Riv Road?

2023-03-22 Thread Len L

I was just measuring and analyzing my 2000 Curt for a 650b conversion. I 
thought I might get a 42 in there but it would be tight. Thanks for the 
thread, this is all very helpful.

Len

On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 1:51:02 AM UTC-4 Peter Bridge wrote:

> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 1:29:48 PM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
> Out of curiosity, did you get the pink one off craigslist?  If so, please 
> don't paint it.  Be brave enough to ride pink. 
>
>
> Who, me? I carefully delayed until it vanished. I was tempted to chase 
> it.  I'm already pretty heavily invested, emotion and energy rather than 
> funds, in a bike that checks a lot of boxes for me, including clearing 38 
> tires. Would have taken no bravery for me to ride a pink bike. A screaming 
> pink Eisentraut was my main ride for 25 years. Pink bikes might be the only 
> bikes that are cooler than orange bikes.
>
> Thanks, everybody for the responses.
>
> ~pb
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[RBW] WTB 54 Rambouillet or 55 Bleriot

2023-03-22 Thread mike naranjo

Hi Everyone,

I know it's a long shot, but thought I'd see if anyone has any leads for a 
Rambouillet in a size 54 or a Bleriot in a size 55.  Thanks in advance.

Best,

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

2023-03-22 Thread EverRed

I'll be out of town (touring in France!) but I would love to join any 
future rides.  I see that there are a lot of gravel suggestions.  Are Riv 
group rides generally off road?

John
Black Mountain


On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 11:11:44 AM UTC-4 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dang! Just my luck... I'll be in Florida the last week of May / first week 
> of June. Still, I look forward to this happening so I can read the ride 
> report and hopefully see some good photos!
>
> -Brian
>
> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>> first weekend of June.
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and created 
 this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in May/June 
 would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click on the 
 link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to select the 
 dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. After about a 
 week, I can post the results and we can either take the planning further 
 from there or else pick different dates and try again.  Here is the link 
 to 
 the poll:  https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka

 Gary

 On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. Those 
> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). I 
> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
> decent riding. 
>
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could also 
>> add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) just 
>> north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. that 
>> could 
>> follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
>>> quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   
>>>
>>> I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and then 
>>> possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts District 
>>> greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 
>>>
>>> Anyone want to weigh in?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>>
 Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
 gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a suitable 
 date 
 I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems like 
 the 
 biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
 probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we wanted 
 to 
 avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.

 On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
> Warning: Long Post.
>
> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
> The 
> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
> (from 
> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
> annual 
> visitors. 
>
> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county that 
> were 
> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>
> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
> (Bent 
> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking can 
> be a challenge, especially on weekends. Having said that, BC and the 
> Pisgah 
> National Forest are still great riding. If you want you can climb up 
> to 
> Bent Tree Gap  and descend on the BRPW through two

Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Riders in Western NC

2023-03-22 Thread Maple Fortress

Just seeing this. Would love to ride! On an Appaloosa in Boone.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 9:58:53 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:

> Thanks Gary, I can participate at least part of that weekend.
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 11:01:46 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> We've had five folks fill out the doodle scheduling poll (thanks Steve, 
>> Jason, Ky, and Chasen) to try to find a late spring date for a potential 
>> Asheville gathering and the May 12, 13, 14 weekend is best for those who 
>> responded. Does that date work with others who didn't respond? Or should I 
>> throw out some summer and/or early fall dates? 
>> Gary
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:45:38 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, Steve - all the options I selected were the weekends of May and the 
>>> first weekend of June.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thank you Gary for setting this up!Are you thinking weekends, or...?

 On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 2:59:12 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi Everyone, at the risk of being presumptuous I went ahead and 
> created this Doodle scheduling poll to see what (if any) weekend dates in 
> May/June would work best for a Riv group meetup in Asheville.  Just click 
> on the link and it will guide you to a calendar that will allow you to 
> select the dates you are (and are not) available for a weekend meetup. 
> After about a week, I can post the results and we can either take the 
> planning further from there or else pick different dates and try again. 
>  Here is the link to the poll:  
> https://doodle.com/meeting/participate/id/eXQgKnka
>
> Gary
>
> On Monday, March 13, 2023 at 11:00:51 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Gary, I second your suggestion.   I lived in North Asheville on 
>> Melrose St for a number of years - I'm currently on the south side. 
>> Those 
>> roads above the Grove Park Inn and on to Town Mountain and then the BRPW 
>> were my go to routes (that was back when Michael Davis owned ProBikes). 
>> I 
>> haven't ridden up that way for over a decade. Good to hear it's still 
>> decent riding. 
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 6:23 PM 'Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Steve - Yes, Bent Creek and the River Arts sounds good. We could 
>>> also add another ride the following day on quiet roads (they do exist!) 
>>> just north of downtown, up Sunset to Town Mt, around Montford, etc. 
>>> that 
>>> could follow the Asheville bike routes.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 4:47:59 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Gary, May would be a good choice. September is  generally a bit 
 quieter as well. I'm guessing most would prefer a weekend???   

 I'm thinking a 3-4 hour ride at Bent Creek early in the day and 
 then possibly an afternoon to early evening ride on the River Arts 
 District 
 greenway concluding with a stop for food & beverage. 

 Anyone want to weigh in?

 On Sunday, March 12, 2023 at 12:28:31 PM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Steve, I agree that July 4 wknd would not be the best time for a 
> gathering as Asheville gets mobbed then. But if we can find a 
> suitable date 
> I’d be happy to help with some organizing of the gathering. Seems 
> like the 
> biggest hurdle is getting a date nailed down. Any summer date would 
> probably work for me, but I’d suggest late May/early June if we 
> wanted to 
> avoid July 4. Not quite as many tourists here then.
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:38:05 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Giving this thread a bump -  Hate to see it get lost.  Trigger 
>> Warning: Long Post.
>>
>> I've been living and riding in Asheville for 30 some years now, 
>> and would be happy to offer some route ideas - but first a caveat. 
>> The 
>> Asheville metro area has seen phenomenal growth over the past decade 
>> (from 
>> 282,000 to 371,000 residents). We're also seeing about 11 million 
>> annual 
>> visitors. 
>>
>> The result of the rapid growth  transpo infrastructure has been 
>> overwhelmed. Paved routes around town and the surrounding county 
>> that were 
>> old favorites have mostly become Thunderdome rides. --   
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JKZKjFjHDM ---   
>>
>> If you're still reading this - in addition to the decline in road 
>> riding pleasantness,  the best close to town off pavement riding 
>> (Bent 
>> Creek) has become a "regional destination". Trailhead parking

[RBW] Re: FS: 48cm Sam Hillborne

2023-03-22 Thread G.E.

Dropping the price to $1200. Contact with questions. Thanks!

On Thursday, March 9, 2023 at 2:25:24 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:

> Just commenting to bump to the top. Also, the bike has now been cleaned 
> since the ice has thawed (at least for a bit). :)
>
> On Saturday, January 7, 2023 at 5:14:06 PM UTC-7 G.E. wrote:
>
>> I am selling my 48cm Sam Hillborne. Never thought this day would come, 
>> but here we are -- Must thin the herd. I am the original owner (purchased 
>> in 2010). This is being sold as a full-build, as pictured. This bike has 
>> been used and well-loved, but it has always been stored (when not in use) 
>> indoors. Buyer should expect use marks on everything, paint chips, etc. 
>> It's not beat up, but it was used.  I have many photos that are closer-up, 
>> so just reach out if you'd like details or more photos.
>>
>> - 48cm Samuel Hillborne frameset
>> - 170mm Sugino crank with 46-36-26 (or 24) teeth (I need to verify the 
>> little one, but if it makes a difference for you, just ask, and I'm happy 
>> to double check)
>> - Sora front derailleur
>> - XT rear derailleur
>> - Shimano bar end shifters (3x9)
>> - Cassette is 11-32
>> - Tektro cantilever brakes
>> -  Nitto stem (5cm reach) - note that it is at its lowest point, but 
>> could be raised higher, if needed/wanted
>> - Schwalbe Marathon tires (650Bx42 - they only have about 10 miles on 
>> them)
>> - 650B wheelset (purchased from Rivendell after owning the bike for 
>> several years... they may have a few hundred miles on them, at most)
>> - Albatross handlebars (currently flipped upside down)
>> - Brooks B-17 leather saddle
>> - Nitto Campee rear rack
>> - VP flat pedals
>> - Two bottle cages; one of them is designed to hold a larger bottle, the 
>> other is a standard King cage
>> - Kickstand
>> - Currently, the handlebars have leather bar tape that has been 
>> well-loved ( new owner will likely want new bar tape, but I'm happy to send 
>> it along)
>> - Nitto F15 Handlebar bag support. I have a bag I've used on this, and am 
>> happy to send it along to the new owner, but be aware it has been plastered 
>> with various patches over the years which may or may not be to the new 
>> owner's liking. :-) It's a great bag though!
>>
>> Anything I've left out, please feel free to drop me a note. I'm asking 
>> $1500 (buyer will pay exact shipping costs). The bike is not yet packed up, 
>> but if someone has interest, I can get a box and get it packed to get a 
>> shipping quote. Also, I've given the Sam a wet wipe down, but note that it 
>> could use a "real" bath at some point. Everything is frozen here for the 
>> foreseeable winter though, so I don't think I can make it happen at this 
>> time.
>> [image: SH1.jpg]
>> [image: SH2.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PSA FS: Original Riv Mountain

2023-03-22 Thread maxcr

Forgot to add, original owner Ted Durant said his PBH is 82cm, so 
thankfully too small for me ;)

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 5:30:41 PM UTC-4 maxcr wrote:

> In case you missed it, up for sale a Riv mountain! 
> https://groups.google.com/u/5/g/internet-bob/c/BxuVNhY1vfM

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[RBW] PSA FS: Original Riv Mountain

2023-03-22 Thread maxcr

In case you missed it, up for sale a Riv mountain! 
https://groups.google.com/u/5/g/internet-bob/c/BxuVNhY1vfM

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Re: [RBW] FD question

2023-03-22 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

Fun fact: On many Singers, the frame is purpose-built for a specific front derailleur. On mine, half of the derailleur’s clamp was removed and replaced with braze-on fittings. The derailleur bolts to the fitting. This reduces weight and makes the attachment stronger. But it locks you in to that specific derailleur and a given chainring size, since the mech can’t be moved up or down. Vive le France! –Eric NOn Mar 22, 2023, at 11:31 AM, greenteadrinkers wrote:Eric Norris - thanks! Wow, Alex Singer!Eric Marth - Thanks! Currently, I'm running a Shimano Altus M310, however, I recently procured (from a fellow list member) a NOS Shimano XTR Rapid Rise RD, I think it was Shimano's final iteration. Not quite as svelte as something by Shimano from the 70s, but I think certainly a beautiful object in its own right. The Jubilee is just totally gorgeous.On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:Hi Scott — I haven't run this combo but I think it will work. The seat tubes on your Sam should be 28.6. Older, svelte road front derailers without ramps typically work well with wide range doubles. Jan, for a time at least, ran a Sachs-Huret front derailer on his mule with a 44/28. The design is very similar to the Jubilee. What are you running for a derailer out back to match the refined beauty of the Jubilee? On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:My Alex Singer has 48/32 chainrings, and a Jubilee front derailleur works just fine.
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On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:23 AM, greenteadrinkers wrote:Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano tends to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been hearing good things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd give one a go. The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer diameter of the seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using a Jubilee with a wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in getting things just right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.Thanks!Scott

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Re: [RBW] FD question

2023-03-22 Thread greenteadrinkers

Eric Norris - thanks! Wow, Alex Singer!

Eric Marth - Thanks! Currently, I'm running a Shimano Altus M310, however, 
I recently procured (from a fellow list member) a NOS Shimano XTR Rapid 
Rise RD, I think it was Shimano's final iteration. Not quite as svelte as 
something by Shimano from the 70s, but I think certainly a beautiful object 
in its own right. The Jubilee is just totally gorgeous.

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 2:14:16 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Scott — I haven't run this combo but I think it will work. The seat 
> tubes on your Sam should be 28.6. 
>
> Older, svelte road front derailers without ramps typically work well with 
> wide range doubles. 
>
> Jan, for a time at least, ran a Sachs-Huret front derailer on his mule 
> with a 44/28. The design is very similar to the Jubilee. 
>
> What are you running for a derailer out back to match the refined beauty 
> of the Jubilee? 
>
> On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> My Alex Singer has 48/32 chainrings, and a Jubilee front derailleur works 
>> just fine.
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:23 AM, greenteadrinkers  
>> wrote:
>>
>> Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.
>>
>> Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed 
>> cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano 
>> tends to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been 
>> hearing good things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd 
>> give one a go. The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer 
>> diameter of the seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using 
>> a Jubilee with a wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in 
>> getting things just right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Scott
>>
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Re: [RBW] FD question

2023-03-22 Thread Eric Marth

Hi Scott — I haven't run this combo but I think it will work. The seat 
tubes on your Sam should be 28.6. 

Older, svelte road front derailers without ramps typically work well with 
wide range doubles. 

Jan, for a time at least, ran a Sachs-Huret front derailer on his mule with 
a 44/28. The design is very similar to the Jubilee. 

What are you running for a derailer out back to match the refined beauty of 
the Jubilee? 

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 1:27:33 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com wrote:

> My Alex Singer has 48/32 chainrings, and a Jubilee front derailleur works 
> just fine.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:23 AM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
>
> Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.
>
> Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed 
> cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano 
> tends to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been 
> hearing good things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd 
> give one a go. The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer 
> diameter of the seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using 
> a Jubilee with a wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in 
> getting things just right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.
>
> Thanks!
> Scott
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Re: [RBW] FD question

2023-03-22 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

My Alex Singer has 48/32 chainrings, and a Jubilee front derailleur works just 
fine.

--Eric Norris
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YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

> On Mar 22, 2023, at 10:23 AM, greenteadrinkers  
> wrote:
> 
> Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.
> 
> Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed 
> cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano tends 
> to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been hearing good 
> things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd give one a go. 
> The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer diameter of the 
> seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using a Jubilee with a 
> wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in getting things just 
> right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.
> 
> Thanks!
> Scott
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[RBW] FD question

2023-03-22 Thread greenteadrinkers

Considering sourcing a Huret Jubilee Front Derailleur for my Sam.

Currently, I have Sugino XD2 Bash guard / 40 / 24 and a Jim 11/36 7-speed 
cassette. The FD is a newer Shimano, not sure which model. The Shimano 
tends to drop the chain when shifting from the 40 to the 24. I've been 
hearing good things regarding the Jubilee for a wide double, so thought I'd 
give one a go. The diameter is 28.6, would anyone happen to know the outer 
diameter of the seat tube on a Sam? Also, does anyone have experience using 
a Jubilee with a wide double? I know there's a lot of trial and error in 
getting things just right, but doesn't hurt to pull from shared experiences.

Thanks!
Scott

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Re: [RBW] Re: cycling attire for cold rain

2023-03-22 Thread Touriste-Routier

Neoprene can work well, but the danger is you get wet from perspiration, 
since it doesn't breathe.  Wet isn't a problem per se, but if you get cold 
from being wet, that is another story.  Of course you'll be cold and wet 
without proper gear too...

The biggest problem I had with my neoprene cyclocross gloves (all winter 
gloves actually), is trying to put them back on with sweaty hands after 
needing to remove them (stops, repairs, etc.).  Lesson learned, I always 
ride with spare gloves on winter rides.  

Brian Ignatin
Pineville, PA  USA

On Wednesday, March 22, 2023 at 9:11:15 AM UTC-4 a spen wrote:

> As a cold weather cyclist in Maine in the 80's, with Minnesota and the 
> Appalachian mountains more recently, I'll add to the OP's revelation 
> regarding neoprene that a set of neoprene pogies (or bar mitts) on the 
> outside, coupled with wool gloves on the inside, gets me through everything 
> from 40 degrees and rainy, to -20 and breezy. I simply match the 
> thickness/warmth of the inner wool gloves or mitts to the conditions, and 
> if it's 50 with wind and rain, just pogies alone will keep my paws warm and 
> toasty.  I've experimented with all manner of thick and clumsy arctic 
> military mitts (compliments of my time spent in Uncle Sam's Navy) to boiled 
> wool mitts (compliments of my time spent on a Maine "lobsta boat") and 
> found an outer layer neoprene pogie supplemented with the aforementioned 
> woolies underneath provide the greatest comfort & flexibility for a range 
> of temps and conditions while on my ride.
>
> Al - VA
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:54:45 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> This by the way, but here in usually very dry ABQ, NM it has been raining 
>> off and on for a few days and the humidity during my afternoon ride was 
>> over 70% which mean that 45*F + wind felt much colder than at 35%. But a 
>> wool jersey + a wool + nylon cycling jacket kept me over-warm (those wool + 
>> nylon panel jackets are very warm indeed, I find).
>>
>> Usually at 45* I can get by with a very thinly lined cycling shell over 
>> said jersey and may have to open the pit zips.
>>
>> Over and out.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 1:33 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>>
>>> That is a great idea. The rain/air would exchange heat far less than the 
>>> ocean, so I would imagine that even if you are wet underneath that you 
>>> would remain quite toasty. 
>>>
>>> Toshi
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:32 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
 That's interesting, I might give some a shot this spring. I get the 
 feeling that much colder than low 40's would be too cold for most Neoprene 
 options but I don't really know. Usually when it's 45+F I am pretty happy 
 with wool and a shell that's at least waterproof enough to keep the 
 majority of water out - not much ends up being truly waterproof in those 
 conditions.  I can certainly believe that the water-going folks are onto 
 something though. 

 On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 07:39:34 UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Folks on this board might already have this information, but it was a 
> revelation to me.
>
> It was 48 and heavily raining on, Tuesday I think, riding from Goleta 
> to Oxnard, CA. We (my son and I) were uncomfortably cold, with many miles 
> to go.
>
> We came upon a surfing shop. I know nothing about surfing or scuba, 
> but I bought the socks, gloves, and a hat that surfers wear with their 
> wetsuits. Wow, what a game changer. We were instantly comfortable. For 
> heavy rain in cold weather, neoprene is great for cycling. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Sharing your winter ride photos northern hemisphere Spring 2023

2023-03-22 Thread Eric Marth

Nice, Ted, thanks for kicking off our Spring thread!

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:03:05 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> Ok, it's spring astronomically, but in Wisconsin not so much so 
> meteorologically. So, first sort of spring ride for me today, 45 miles or 
> so up the lake and back the river. Chilly northeast wind off the lake, 
> mostly a tailwind coming home at least. Looking forward to warmer temps and 
> seeing some signs of green some day.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee WI USA
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Re: [RBW] Re: cycling attire for cold rain

2023-03-22 Thread a spen

As a cold weather cyclist in Maine in the 80's, with Minnesota and the 
Appalachian mountains more recently, I'll add to the OP's revelation 
regarding neoprene that a set of neoprene pogies (or bar mitts) on the 
outside, coupled with wool gloves on the inside, gets me through everything 
from 40 degrees and rainy, to -20 and breezy. I simply match the 
thickness/warmth of the inner wool gloves or mitts to the conditions, and 
if it's 50 with wind and rain, just pogies alone will keep my paws warm and 
toasty.  I've experimented with all manner of thick and clumsy arctic 
military mitts (compliments of my time spent in Uncle Sam's Navy) to boiled 
wool mitts (compliments of my time spent on a Maine "lobsta boat") and 
found an outer layer neoprene pogie supplemented with the aforementioned 
woolies underneath provide the greatest comfort & flexibility for a range 
of temps and conditions while on my ride.

Al - VA

On Tuesday, March 21, 2023 at 6:54:45 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> This by the way, but here in usually very dry ABQ, NM it has been raining 
> off and on for a few days and the humidity during my afternoon ride was 
> over 70% which mean that 45*F + wind felt much colder than at 35%. But a 
> wool jersey + a wool + nylon cycling jacket kept me over-warm (those wool + 
> nylon panel jackets are very warm indeed, I find).
>
> Usually at 45* I can get by with a very thinly lined cycling shell over 
> said jersey and may have to open the pit zips.
>
> Over and out.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 1:33 PM Toshi Takeuchi  wrote:
>
>> That is a great idea. The rain/air would exchange heat far less than the 
>> ocean, so I would imagine that even if you are wet underneath that you 
>> would remain quite toasty. 
>>
>> Toshi
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2023 at 8:32 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>>> That's interesting, I might give some a shot this spring. I get the 
>>> feeling that much colder than low 40's would be too cold for most Neoprene 
>>> options but I don't really know. Usually when it's 45+F I am pretty happy 
>>> with wool and a shell that's at least waterproof enough to keep the 
>>> majority of water out - not much ends up being truly waterproof in those 
>>> conditions.  I can certainly believe that the water-going folks are onto 
>>> something though. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 17 March 2023 at 07:39:34 UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>>>
 Folks on this board might already have this information, but it was a 
 revelation to me.

 It was 48 and heavily raining on, Tuesday I think, riding from Goleta 
 to Oxnard, CA. We (my son and I) were uncomfortably cold, with many miles 
 to go.

 We came upon a surfing shop. I know nothing about surfing or scuba, but 
 I bought the socks, gloves, and a hat that surfers wear with their 
 wetsuits. Wow, what a game changer. We were instantly comfortable. For 
 heavy rain in cold weather, neoprene is great for cycling. 

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