[RBW] Re: HOLDSWORTH ???
looks like a nice size for me! I ride a 58-59. I'd also like to know the size. On Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:19:36 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: I picked up this frame for my wife because it was in such great / new / can't find a ding scratch etc condition then she decided she wants a betty foy. I don't know what it's worth or if anyone would be interested in building it up.. open for discussion I guess. Comes with headset, bottom bracket, stem, and rear derailur Kelly http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708313956/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708306394/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7708295672/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RqWRQa5mxM8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Sale; Silver 57cm Heron Touring Frame, Fork, HS;
Herons also have elegant round (rather than oval) forks! Brilliant bicycles. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AhOFp081wHAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My New AHH
Ooh, Nice! 650b at that size, correct? On Monday, June 18, 2012 6:57:28 AM UTC-4, blueride2 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/107113808916139260792/RivendellAHH?authuser=0feat=directlink Check it out. Beautiful paint and lug work. Waterford does a nice job. I'm in the process of collecting parts for the build. Thank god for eBay! I'm new to the group and have enjoyed reading all of your posts. I'll check in again when I complete the bike. Happy trails to all of you Rivendell riders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aEuEnkS6AkUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
Crazy isn't it? Seems this is what everyone wants but nobody offers anymore. I use the Dura-Ace GS 7700 but the 7800 is also silver. Good luck finding a good one. http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/Shimano_Dura-Ace_derailleur_(7700_GS).html On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote: As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that there are very few rear derailers being made in silver these days that will accomodate my 12-36t cassette. Other than the euro LX sold through Riv, is there anything that comes in a plain silver finish? I don't like the look of the black or the silver/black Deore, though it's reliable, easily found, and economical. I've given up on a used one, since rear derailers tend to suffer quite a lot of cosmetic degradation before being offered for sale, generally speaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Out2TTsG7EAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Long cage rear derailer options in silver
http://www.amazon.com/Shimano-RD-7800-Derallieur-10-Speed-Medium/dp/B001VDSVNI/ref=sr_1_14?s=cyclingie=UTF8qid=1338819621sr=1-14 On Saturday, June 2, 2012 10:21:45 PM UTC-4, Scot Brooks wrote: As my new bicycle is taking shape, I'm painfully aware all-over-again that there are very few rear derailers being made in silver these days that will accomodate my 12-36t cassette. Other than the euro LX sold through Riv, is there anything that comes in a plain silver finish? I don't like the look of the black or the silver/black Deore, though it's reliable, easily found, and economical. I've given up on a used one, since rear derailers tend to suffer quite a lot of cosmetic degradation before being offered for sale, generally speaking. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qdVK3mVtyPEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: rene herse crank
Beautiful bike. Deserves such a beautiful crankset. The RH is (IMO) the finest gem of any crank available. /My brother and I ride Salukis. I have a TA Pro-Vis (46-28) on mine, while he has the RH (46-30). On Sunday, May 27, 2012 3:36:06 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: I've been commuting for the past few weeks with one of the new Rene Herse cranks on my AHH. http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_bb.html I haven't seen any reviews on this yet, so I figured I would share a few thoughts/opinions with the group. I'm not really a crankoholic, and have mainly ridden wider Q mountain cranks. I mainly wanted to upgrade the bike a bit, and thought a well built crankset would be a nice add. Something that would last as long as the frame, perhaps. I've never had any experience with a narrow tread road bike, and was a bit worried that having a narrow Q would be a problem. So far that has not worked out to be the case. I find it comfortable, and natural. The length of these are 171mm, which is close to what I'm finding to be ideal for me. I tend to lately favor the 170mm cranks I have on another bike over the 175mm I've been using for the past 20 years. The finish and feel of these cranks is indeed very nice, and every bit as good as it has been billed. The chainrings are nice and thick, but elegant. To me, these cranks feel more solid than the others I've used lately including Sugino XD, Suntour XC Pro, and modern Shimano Deore and XT cranks, as well as a Race Face outboard bearing set I have on my mtb. They are very nice to look at, as well, with a highly polished finish, and simple, clean and classy lines that go really well with the Rivendell frame. It was recommended by Jan that I use a 110mm bottom bracket, so I ordered one, but decided to try the cranks with a 107mm that I had on already. They went on easily, and the arms have at least 3-5mm clearance with the chainstays. The chainline is adequate, as well. I got 44/28 rings to go with an 11-32 cassette. This gives me plenty of range for the hilly riding I do in the area. Bottom line - I highly recommend these. Love em! Pics: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzzumnw Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/szkXgYORZW8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new A Homer Hilsen feels perfect!
I got a Nitto lugged seatpost because it has extra setback. That is a great justification to put such a beautiful component on that lovely frame! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nj8no5EjxikJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East
I understand. I'm sure everyone had a great time and were stellar and welcoming sportsmen. My concern was for those who may not have joined because they ride perhaps a Toei or a Singer or whatever. I think we are all literally on the same page as far as wanting and welcoming a variety of participants. I simply don't think calling a ride a rally for a specific brand helps that cause. (unless of course Riv was short for River!) On Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:53:23 AM UTC-4, AndyBikeman wrote: I was one of the renegade Non-Riv riders on the recent tour. I felt very welcomed by all the riders. It was a great group of people and we had a lot in common, especially the love of riding on two wheels. I didn't sense any feelings of less or more because of the brand of bike being ridden. I admire people that are passionate about finely crafted and designed bikes. Nice to know that the interest in steel frames and classic bike gear is alive and well in Riv riders! Because of brands like Rivendell the revival of classic touring bikes is making a come-back with bikes like the Kogswell, Gunnar, Salsa, and Surly. That's one thing I like about cycling is that in most cases nobody talks another person down because of their choices of bike manufacturer. I ride regularly with people that ride bikes worth a great deal of money and they still admire my 10 year old steel and titanium bikes. In fact a number of my fellow Riv riders commented that they had a Surly LHT as a second or third bike and that is was a tremendous value for the money. I came as an invited guest of a wonderful friend that thought I'd enjoy the ride (we did the whole CO and GAP trail together three years ago) again and to finally get to see the scenery before the Divide since the last time we rode it the rain and fog kept the scenery out of view. I'm so glad I came and got to see the sights despite the threat of rain, snow and cold temps. I feel that it doesn't' matter what brand of bike you ride, but your approach to cycling. That is, touring versus racing. As I've aged I prefer touring and self-supported rides. Again thanks to the welcoming and great group of guys, and BobbyB for organizing the tour (are there any women that would like to join us? We won't bite or geek out too much). I plan on being back to ride a RivTour whether if I can afford a Rivendell or not. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/O2wOYKBDKjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!
Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with you to dilute the pretension. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jelUU9ltMYUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!
I guess I simply prefer a more egalitarian theme for a ride. Inclusive rather than exclusive that's all. I don't think anything negative about the folks and certainly did not mean to insinuate that. There are about ten Riv owners in my club and sometimes it's all Rivs on a ride. No problem, ride whatever you want. I just didn't like the idea that on a Riv Rally someone might feel having a fancy bike is necessary to come along with the group. I suppose pretension was the wrong way to put it. Truly sorry. /Still, gorgeous bikes all, and perhaps the best trail in America. On Friday, April 27, 2012 4:05:34 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 10:17 -0700, Ablejack wrote: Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. I'm sorry you feel that way. There are some very nice folks here, and it has been a great pleasure to meet them in real life and ride with them. This year's and last year's rallies were tremendous fun and I'm very glad I attended both. Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with you to dilute the pretension. If you mean tension in advance of the potentially severe weather fine -- but if you think the folks attending were poseurs and pretenders then all I can say is you have some very wrong ideas about us. In fact, come down to it, if you feel that way, why are you here? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TVuHzkBpA-kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Done talking myself into like the moustache.
Depends what kind of levers you have. You could get porter bars with inverted levers or guidonnet which are beautiful with Belleville bars. http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/brakes/levers/br-0024.html On Sunday, April 8, 2012 1:41:57 AM UTC-4, Scotty wrote: I have given myself about a year to like my moustache handlebars. I really want to like them, they look so freaking good on my bike, but I dont. Now I am just not sure what direction I want to go, but I know that I want to be more upright, and I dont want to replace the whole cockpit. I want bars that will take my roadbike brake levers and bar end shifters. Even with the dirt drop stem I feel I am leaning forward too far in the position where the brakes are. I could use some suggestions for bars that give me a closer flat section near the brakes that wont force me to buy everything new. Just the bar. Am I dreaming? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yGuMlVJA_cIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
True. Compact Double usually refers to the road racing set for pros and monsters. Sometimes I call the touring/rando sensible double we're discussing a wide range double. Because you basically have the same range of a triple but without the middle ring. Mountain Double works for me although it implies a wider tread mountain specific crankset. But by any other name the ride is sweet. On Friday, April 6, 2012 12:35:28 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: We should take care with the term compact double. A road compact double is typically 50/34, and may not be suitable for loaded touring. A mountain double is usually a 39/26 or 42/28 or similar. Paired with the 11-36 or 12-36 casertes, the mountain double gives all the usable range of a triple without such finicky shifting in front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lJpTVCxFD-wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
The Alpina is beautiful and very useful. The only issue for that set is that the 110 BCD is limited to 33t (per Peter White) at the bottom. I think the fellow looking for a new build here wants an easier climbing gear for touring. Something in the twenties just as he is accustomed with his triple. On Friday, April 6, 2012 10:17:08 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: dr (original poster): I agree you have a lot to consider and digest here. You a debating compact double vs. triple cranks, for one thing. As for myself, I've always had a double, and used 105 STI 'brifters'. They have performed so well for me that I see no reason to leave them. The mainline Rivendell philosophy favors non-indexed bar-end shifters, and lots of folks here go that way. However one good thing about Riv and this forum is that there's a wide tolerance for individuality and using what works for you. Along those lines, I'd suggest that you may first want to decide on your shifting system. I believe that you have been using STI? If you like it, you'll likely not want to change. I've heard (and not confirmed, and others here may correct me) that triples are a bit more finicky for brifters. But you were running a triple anyway, so would have your own experience. As Jim and others have mentioned, you can go to a compact double and still have a wide gear range. That's what I am going to work toward on my bike. I also admit to considering it an object of beauty and consider that when choosing parts. I got a very nice-looking Sugino Alpina compact double and that's what I'm sticking with. You may not be able to keep your 105 RD if you opt for a larger cassette; but as mentioned above, you can get a good Shimano mtn derailleur that will handle the larger cogs and should be just as reliable as what you are used to. Good luck, Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WcjL-fdkO8kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
OK. I've heard that too. But those TA cranks are often 60 years old and hard lived as well. And I'm not pushing the TA anyway, it's expensive and more finicky. I can appreciate the parade factor of it. What are some other options that allow for a 26t inner ring on a double without the wide tread of a mountain set? Stronglight (also french) comes to mind, and VO made a (fair, pretty but lesser quality) 94BCD as well. The suggestions (RH, TA) I made allow for a truly wide range double - and also are easily built as a triple as well if the user changes his mind. A 110 BCD requires a triplizing middle ring for anything smaller than 33t. This usually means 34t because it's hard to find the 33t. This is fine for randonneuring (light loads) but means walking up hills that a regular guy can ride with a triple granny while loaded touring. - Not that there's anything wrong with walking once in a while! On Friday, April 6, 2012 8:46:46 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Ablejack: in my understanding, TA cranks were installed on the earliest MTBs because everything else at the time was 52/39 or thereabouts. Campy had a triple, but it was 54/42/36! Once some Japanese companies started making 110/74 cranks in 1983 or so, nobody ever used a TA on a MTB again. The claim that the TA cranks wouldn't fail is the opposite of my reality. They failed frequently. Every experienced bike mechanic I've known, and I've known some great ones, would, upon seeing a TA crank, say, check it for cracks, with a dismissive tone as if cracks were standard-issue with this crank. As for looks, that's subjective, of course. To me, the Francophile bikes are over the top. They often do look good as a package, but I'd feel weird and self-conscious riding one unless I was in a parade. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9aFOszoizuMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A new tent for bicycle camping?
I currently use the Nano Elite. (I have had a Tarptent and a Big Agnes in the past as well) I like the Nemo tent enough as it is truly freestanding and very light (under three pounds) for its volume. My only gripe is that it 's not as breathable as I would prefer. This is fine for dry nights because the door can be fully mesh all night. But you get wrapped in pretty tight in the rain. If I were to get another tent today it might be the snug Black Diamond HiLight. It is marketed as a 1.5 man tent. It is snug as in 6 footers sleep diagonally. Not a problem for one. I do wish, however, the front door window could be zipped open further down. I do like a full mesh door. On Friday, April 6, 2012 3:33:34 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote: I would also put Nemo tents in the mix. http://www.nemoequipment.com/tents2011 The company is in New Hampshire, tents are sewn in Taiwan, and many of the non-sewn tent components and accessories are made in the US. I have the giant Asashi tent for base camp style car camping with my partner and 2 big dogs (okay, okay, yes the dogs sleep in the tent), but Nemo's little tents would be great for cycling. These are really thoughful, well made tents and easily available through REI. liesl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2RNt27LB294J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
Yeah I run a chainguard/42/+29 on my Kogswell scraper bike from a 130 sugino double with a TA conversion ring. It works very well, even with regular old pants. There are 42t rings that will bring you from a shimano 130 (Alize/K) or even a campy 135 down to a 74 (Vento/K). But why bother when you can get a packaged double that already does this without the chainguard? Especially as the fellow was concerned with weight. Probably most of us would say unnecessarily concerned, but you want what you want. (The lightest way would be ditching the square spindle BB altogether and go with a splined connection, heaven forbid!) The White Industries variable slot is interesting too. I considered them when I was building the Saluki. I'd forgotten about that. The slots system seems sketchy at first look but would appear to work well for any BCD inner. They certainly offer a wide range. Anyone use them? http://whiteind.com/cranks/roadcranks.html On Friday, April 6, 2012 2:59:12 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Other options that allow for a 40-something/26 combo also include the White Industries VBC. Also, you could go Keven-Mowen-style and use a 110/74 and run chainguard/42/26. I've actually got a 130/74 crankset set up exactly that way: chainguard/42/26. I don't know how many choices for middle rings one can find in the 40's, but 42 is very common, and a 42-11 or a 42-12 is plenty high for a touring rig. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eXhO9caHdAkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
Cool, thanks! I'm thankful that there are people here that know what they are talking about as I shoot from the hip! / and yeah, you can find a 33t for a 110, but you have to look around. Actually, all compact double refers to is the 110 mm bolt circle. Although these usually come with 34/50 rings, there's nothing stopping anyone from putting a smaller big ring on such a crank. 34 T is usually as small as rings come in this size (although there may possibly be a 33T). Mountain double obviously refers to a smaller bolt circle -- what used to be called microdrive. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5vGuJdq3ZXwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Bags attachments
My best bike has a decaleur and the Berthoud 28 (12 liter). It's more of a fuss than dropping it on and pressing a button to release, but I like it for looks. I have two other bikes with the klickfix system and use the Brooks Hoxton basket as well as two different Berthoud Klickfix Bags. Very easy on and off. The problem with the klickfix is that the available bags are too small. Even the largest Berthoud with klickfix is smaller than the traditional attachments. But then again I find the Acorn bag way too small as well. I tend to think of a handlebar bag as the primary bag, the bigger the better. There's plenty of finger room at the bar if you are worried (2 inches, I just measured) and maps are right up level with your bar. No rack necessary. You can also attach a klickfix plate mount to any bag or basket you want. But there's part of me that tries to avoid putting plastic parts on a bike too. So the fancy bike gets the decaleur/rack. But if you want quick release I say the* GB192.* http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-Bags-and-Racks/Categories There is also the Guu Watanabe shop which makes whatever you desire including full size klickfix attached front bag with map case any colour you want. But how much do you really love your bike? http://www.flickr.com/photos/guuwatanabe/3720690644/in/set-72157618490343797 On Friday, April 6, 2012 7:45:00 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote: I purchased an Acorn bag 2-3 years ago and have been pretty happy with its volume, portability, durability, and looks. I also like the little pockets for camera, phone, etc. But it sits a little low on my 62-63 cm frames, and I typically can't read a map that far below the HB. Meanwhile my wife has been wanting to replace her 80's vintage Rhode Gear nylon bag. So I am thinking about giving her my Acorn and replacing it with something that is either taller (Bertoud) or simply sits higher. (This past month the check book got hit with Fed. Inc. Tax, state Inc. Tax, property Tax, house insurance, car insurance, four new car tires, a mercy mission to a friend dying in Zurich, and a conference in Boston so this project may not happen right away!) But the question is which combination of bag rack? I'm a big fan of quick release on off. And, I don't want to cramp my hand position on drop bars. The Bertoud Bag and the Klickfix attachment looks fast but I wonder how much space there is between the bag bar? The klikfix also would be inexpensive to replicate on other bikes and is unobtrusive when not in use. The traditional Bertoud decaleur looks classy but also looks fussy to put on off.I once had the VO decaleur and found it rattled, but maybe that is not a universal or current issue. The RBW boxy rack looks nice but I wonder if either the Sackville or Nigel Smith bags have the little pocket versatility of the Acorn, and of course would look very strange without a bag mounted to it. What's your experience? michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fb6BGwCSMnwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
No. A Saluki. Which admittedly has narrower chainstays than the Atlantis but by no means skinny. It'll take 42mm tires w/ fenders. On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 2:29:08 PM UTC-4, William wrote: Even if you are right about the new Rene Herse crankset is the very best crankset in the world today, I wonder whether the ultra narrow Q of the Rene Herse crankset will work on an Atlantis. Are you running that crankset on an Atlantis? On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:54:46 AM UTC-7, Ablejack wrote: *This is the best crankset you can currently get.* Not even up for debate. Lighter than today's campy record, cheaper too. Also the best looking component ever made. Can be set up as a single, double or a triple with a huge assortment of ring sizes. I suggest going double with a 46/30 onto an SKF BB. Easily installed and nice tight Q. Not to mention the historic élan. All other crank suggestions may now vie for second best. (which is the TA Pro-V Cylclotouriste, in case you were wondering) http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_rh.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Pzm1RburteMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
You can stretch out a 105 long cage rear derailleur to get around a 34, even though it suggests to max out at aaround 28 or so. I run a Dura-Ace rear mech thast puts me smoothly onto the 34t cog every time. For everyone touting the 105 line; It's true! Most club racers ride 105 cause it works. For pure performance you can't beat it anywhere near the cost. And even then the performance difference comes more from what's on top of the saddle, not beneath it. Any year 105 is probably better than the Dura-Ace 5-10 yrs older anyway. / I also confess a Huret Jubilee fetish too, and all that fancy pants bling stuff that only other geeks appreciate. For example, I apologize for my Paul canti brakes because they're so ugly. (although the kids -20 somethings- like them) Gotta get me some forged vintage Mafacs! But I enjoy the ridiculous, over detailed, fancy pants stuff. I know it won't make my ride any better. In fact I will choose style over function straight up. But hey, it's another aspect of the whole experience that's fun for me. On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:08:03 PM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote: I have 105 and like it a lot. But lately I'm favoring a compact double crank (Sugino), and as far as I can tell, with the road groups (105, Ultegra, etc), you are limited in the size of the rear cogs. So I've come to the conclusion that if I want to keep the compact double and have a versatile range of gears, I need to go to the mountain rear derailleurs, which is what Riv sells. But IMO it must be Shimano and silver. Of course none of this would preclude using the Herse crank. Steve On Wednesday, April 4, 2012 7:34:04 PM UTC-4, Greg J wrote: You mention that you have Shimano 105 parts currently. You don't mention how old they are, but if they are from the mid-2000s, then you pretty much have technology that is lighter and as technically advanced as anything you will get from Riv (or anything this group will recommend, except for Jim's SRAM, and even that I don't know would be any lighter or better functioning). Functionally and value-wise, the 105 group pretty much can't be beat. Everything else is for fun (which is really what most of us here do---friction / non-aero levers / etc. for the fun of it). Or going lighter because you can. Dura Ace is Shimano's best and lightest, then Ultegra, then 105. The fancy boutique parts manufacturers include Paul (brakes, levers), Phil (hubs/bottom brackets), Chris King (hubs/headsets), White Industries (hubs). Around here, Nitto parts and Grand Bois parts also get high marks. Any of these would put the bling in your bike and make it more unique and win the admiration of us bike-geeks. Greg On Sunday, April 1, 2012 5:53:19 PM UTC-7, dr...@charter.net wrote: but I this time I want it rebuilt a bit lighter with upgraded technology. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OMqQ_dCF3d8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
The obvious scenario to put beautiful parts on a bike is: You get a bike that you think is worth it. TA cranks can be finicky it's true. They were designed before there were standards. Otherwise they're sexy, strong and very good. They were the go-to crankset for the earliest mountain bikes because everything else would fail. I admit to a certain nostalgia (and francophilia) for them. But then again I appreciate a bike as an object as well as for its purpose. Furthermore I can't think of a more versatile crankset. The Rene Herse cranks on the other hand aren't any problem at all. They are truly as simple (and standard) as can be. I really don't know what you are talking about. I suspect that makes two of us. /sorry, that's more cheeky than tongue-in-cheek. And I do appreciate your taking issue with the claim of an indisputable best of anything. Perhaps. But I can't think of another rival for that title either. On Thursday, April 5, 2012 12:08:48 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I know you're being tongue-in-cheek when you declare that anything is the indisputable best. I work on enough old bikes to kill whatever nostalgia I may have once had for old parts or even for new parts that look old. I can't imagine a scenario where I'd consider putting an antiquarian crank like the TA or Compass RH crank on one of my bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g6Alynqr84AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
OK. But your range is determined only by the big ring and the granny. Having a ring in the middle doesn't add to your range of gears. Middle rings just overlap the same gear inches. Usually what happens with a triple is you end up with a large big ring that you sometimes avoid. If your tired at the end of a long day, you end up spinning a middle 38t (or whatever) and then it seems a necessary gear to have. But if you (like me) have no use for a big ring larger than 46t (or heck, a 44t) and you never leave it unless you are climbing a serious hill. And you are much better off than in that 36-39 range middle ring. I understand if you want a 24t granny that the chain has a long way to go with only one shift from a 48t. Perhaps you have to double shift there, but I have a friend who runs 46/24 (Stronglight cranks and TA rings). He climbs like a beast fully loaded (often when the rest of us normal people are struggling just to walk our bikes up) and he descends faster than I ever want to go. Comfort shifting is a rear mech job. /alright maybe that middle is useful for the low grade 3 miles long grinding climb fully loaded into the wind. On Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:20:02 PM UTC-4, dr...@charter.net wrote: very informative, as I want a broad range of gears. I have never had a bike with only a double crank in front. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/If_H22NT1F4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Project Help my Build my Atlantis
*This is the best crankset you can currently get.* Not even up for debate. Lighter than today's campy record, cheaper too. Also the best looking component ever made. Can be set up as a single, double or a triple with a huge assortment of ring sizes. I suggest going double with a 46/30 onto an SKF BB. Easily installed and nice tight Q. Not to mention the historic élan. All other crank suggestions may now vie for second best. (which is the TA Pro-V Cylclotouriste, in case you were wondering) http://www.compasscycle.com/cranks_rh.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vq25iBZT0LEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Headset and bottom bracket life expectancy
I ride a phil bb installed in '99. No problems, but that doesn't mean much as it's anecdotal. If I ever need a new on I would get an SKF. *SKF* (they are the bearing company of the world) guarantees the BB for 10,000 miles. Much longer than anyone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/amLCH7FjaJcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I think at the end of a 50 mile day, you'd be happier on a Sam with 38mm tires than the go-fast bike with 25mm. You will find the bike plenty quick and the 38 (even forty) will serve to smooth out the roads rather than slow you down. It is argued that on most roads you will actually be more efficient (faster!) with the wider tires because there will be less vibration through your body. You will be able to produce more power than you do on a tight frame with rocks for wheels. Even Pros ride 29mm on the Paris-Roubaix to ride faster, not to be more comfy. The argument for the AHH is that it is constructed with lighter tubing than the Sam and may you offer a planing feel where a little flexiness translates into speed as the frame loads up with static forces. But the Sam is not made from heavy (Atlantis, Bombadil) tubing either, it is an all-rounder, not really a work-horse. Besides, it is kind of fun to be the guy on a rando easily pacing with the group of racing bikes. People think you're a monster but there is no real handicap. Team Racers are stuck with high pressure skinny tires because that's what teams give them. Although it is being more recognized to have more volume these days. On Saturday, March 31, 2012 11:28:03 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote: I have spent the last few days reading a lot about Sam Hillborne! It seems clear that people really do love this bike. Sam seems like a bike that can do many things, though perhaps it is best suited to being somewhat of a workhorse bike - taking people and their gear to work, around town, or out into the country for a leisurely ride. However, it does not seem made to be a fast bike; rather, a comfortable bike that can be set up to go fast-ish, if one really wanted to do so. As I try to really analyze what I need a bike to do I've tried to really think about the riding that I do and the bikes that I have. The majority of my riding is relatively fastish recreational / fitness riding. I do ride with some groups on occasion, but a typical ride is 1 to 3 hours. I hope to do more rides of the 50 mile plus variety, but typically I do this only a few times a year. For this purpose, my custom go fast bike (with maximum 25 mm tires) works pretty well. I also have a 1993 Trek 520 touring bike. Set up with Honjo fenders, this bike currently cannot fit tires more than 28 mm. I had the bike out the other day and was somewhat surprised by the quality of ride. Once it go up to speed (which took some work) it felt pretty good, almost quick, in fact. This bike is designed to carry bags and gear for extended rides on the road. I use it for that purpose every few years, but typically it is a bike I ride on wet roads or early in the spring or fall when I want to keep my custom-built go fast bike clean. So, I continue trying to figure out what bike would best fit between these two. I'm somewhat torn between a go fastish Rambo bike (which seems best suited for road riding), or a not so fast bike (Sam Hillborne) that has the advantage of being able to carry more weight than a rambo bike and also be able to handle a bit more rugged terrain, such as the stone dust found on my local bike trails (like the Erie Canal Pathway). The Sam also seems to be better suited for a riding around town and/or commute to work bike, both of which also are points in Sam's favor. As you can probably tell, I really do seem to be leaning toward a Sam. I do like the new blue color (though I am not sold on the double top tube). I also like the the new Sam's use sidepull brakes, as I am not a huge fan of canti's. Does my reasoning make sense? Now, if I can only decide which handlebar to try. I've never ridding on anything but traditional bars (noodles and the like), but the Sam does seem to call for something else. I'm really intrigued by moustache bars, but don't really know if I'm willing to go so far outside of my comfort zone (though a double top tube is already outside of that zone - perhaps its better to leap into new territory with this bike!) What is the consensus on the ideal handlebar for the Sam? Thanks, Sean On Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:13:21 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is simply latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely waterproof. /and yes, use fenders unless you're racing. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9Y_GKwyjbrkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Best rain cover for a Brooks?
On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:41:39 AM UTC-4, Ablejack wrote: Gilles Berthoud also makes an interesting cover (and saddles). It is simply latex rubber and stretches to fit snugly on the saddle. Completely waterproof. /and yes, use fenders unless you're racing. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:34:21 AM UTC-4, JL wrote: What is the best way to protect a leather saddle from the rain? I know there are various saddle covers, but I see more people with a plastic bag over their seats. What about the underside? Do fenders stop the water spray well enough? Thanks JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dNZj4fRq7vkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56cm SS Coupled Saluki in Portland-East
Bilenky Bicycles (phila.) can install SS couplers for your Riv if you want. /my Saluki is nicer anyway! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:29:03 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Oh my, someone buy this so I can live vicariously through you... http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ram/bik/2923936121.html No affiliation, etc.. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xXYEciQzcf4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I'd go with a (lugged) Boulder Bike Randonneur for a comfortable and speedy off the rack bike. But I just told a friend to look into the Sam (looking for an all-rounder/S24O bike) and BOOM, he ordered one! Also the pretty blue Sam w/ cream headtube is currently at a pre-order discount (same price as the green). It will go up to new price when the first 45 or so are sold. /Saluki rider. (48yo) Fast enough for me! On Sunday, March 25, 2012 7:13:21 PM UTC-4, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/G5LLbg4HsCYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
'nother vote for the Grand Bois Lierre. My brother rides and loves them on his randonneuse- he used to ride Pari-motos too. But if you can fit Rumpkins (a fat 40), you probably can fit Hetres (a slim 42) as well. /I ride clunky old (40mm) Schwalbe Marathon- not sexy, not fast, not fixing flats. They feel like rocks (thick sidewalls and kevlar belted) so if I want speed, I have to pedal faster! On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 11:11:42 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F6nQSER2ylQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Grilver AHH
Beauty. I love the color. Smart build too. /you mentioned it was dirty - my bikes are only that clean once a year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h3twtEnxffYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-foBy5IalRho/T25gBRzc5bI/ACo/IoGbA9BeKhM/s1600/2012_0324AA.JPG There is a very easy way to tell if you have a proper crankset for your bike. Look at the photo. Do your chainrings match those on either of these Salukis? If so you have chosen well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BB6q_GFoQkkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What a difference a week (or two) makes...
Beautiful. / I think you might do well to consider the Mafacs. The forged aluminum is stronger than the Paul machined stuff. And the French-ness has more élan in my opinion. However I currently run the Paul retro/touring set-up on a bike and they are fine. All the kids seem to like them too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Fj5x8v3_E1kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A gooey mess all over my Supremes
Verdict: Don't put any of that crap in your tires. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NVGcrMmFcEIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?
Um, trick question. The real question is: Q. How long does it take your butt to break in while riding a Brooks saddle? A. Somewhere between your 50th and 100th mile, you own it. I'm curious about the Berthoud touring saddle too, but my Brooks is currently in such a sweet spot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7hgXwsyKj0UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: A day in the life of a Saluki
the orange Saluki is fastest. On Dec 14, 8:56 pm, MobileBill bud...@mindspring.com wrote: So the local magazine is looking for a pretty bike to photograph in transit, for a story on the growing popularity of bike commuting (yes, even in ol’ Mobile, Alabama). Someone at the local bike shop, interestingly enough, points them to the Saluki. So we head out on our first 9-mile leg to the office, with a photographer in tow, catching the burnt orange gleam of the Saluki from every angle. Get to work, and someone says, boy I’d like to get a bike like that … Shortly before noon, I realize that I’ve been distracted by the celebrity, and left some important papers at home. I have a little over an hour to get there and back, 18 miles and then some in lunch time traffic. I throw off the panniers, and the Saluki does what a Saluki does -- bounding at 19 or 20 miles an hour down potholed city streets on those fat 650s, flying at 33 miles per hour down the last long hill back to work. Six o’clock, I’m ready to head home, and a co-worker calls and says she’s left some important mailings at the office. But then she remembers I’m on the bike, and says, Nevermind, we’ll do it tomorrow. They’ve got to go out tonight, and it's the other side of town to get there. The panniers go back on the Saluki, and I wedge in something close to 15 pounds of mailings, plus a change of clothes and the usual trunk full of stuff. I expect some wobble from the front end, but I just lean into it, and she runs like she’s got a keel under her, about as fast as I care to peddle on the fourth commuting leg of the day. On the way home in the dark, I roll over the neck of a beer bottle and hear the Schwalbe Marathon 37s crush it into tiny pieces. I think I hear air escaping, and realize it’s a sprinkler in one of the yards. After what's pretty close to a 40-mile day, the odometer tells me I have nearly 9,000 miles on the bike and the tires. The Marathons haven't had a flat in 8,500 miles, but one of these days, I’m going to have to replace that rear one. This Saluki, though … I hope I’m riding it for a long, long time. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: These cranks stink so good!
My brother (He and I both ride TA Pro V Cyclotouriste as well) just ordered a Herse 46/30. Ican't wait to see that jewel. On Dec 14, 4:51 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Let me see if I remember the full list of gripes about Compass' reissue of Rene Herse Cranks: 1. They only come in 171mm ?! Lame 2. They cost $385 ?! Lame 3. You can't get a big chainring ?! Lame 4. Proprietary rings ?! Lame 5. Three bolts ?! Lame 6. No ramps or pins or shift assist of any kind ?! Lame 7. Made in Taiwan ?! Lame Nevertheless, I'd still really love to have a few sets of them, and now they are accepting orders for them. http://www.compasscycle.com/Cranks.html If you bought them for me I'd run them on both of my go fast bikes in a 48/32. I'd run a 46/30 or maybe even a 44/28 on my brevet bikes. Maybe it's time to liquidate some more stuff -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Exustar Touring Shoes
They're a little heavy and take a bit of breaking in. The leather is not the finest but the price is good for a nice traditional looking shoe. Also consider Quoc Pham. http://www.quocpham.com/products/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xRtJYRwVO-wJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne Orange Leather Paint
my bike has a similar color scheme. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253260@N00/4963970028/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Folding bike = kids bike?
Mouton originally designed his wickedly stylish small wheeled bike as one size fits all. He thought it was dumb that a frame would only properly fit one height and proportion. He also claimed better performance and comfort but that has been contested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: perennial pants issue
water repellant cotton breeks http://www.hilltrek.co.uk/acatalog/copy_of_Clova_Ventile_Breeches.html Does anyone else makes something just like the MUSA pants, but without the 2-tone color scheme? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
do want some guu on a bike! Maybe if I had a fine fine bike (Think Singer, Herse, Toei) but the ol' Saluki will have to do with the simple berthoud bags. I hang six berthouds on it at once if needed. special small pannies, small pannies, 28, and saddle. On Jun 11, 4:29 pm, stevep33 steve...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone out there tried the Guu-Watanabe handlebar bags? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Handlebar Bag
berthoud 28. On Jun 14, 11:01 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Rob: I've used the Acorn boxy rando for well over a year now it's a permanent fixture on the bike, both for daily use and extended tours. Perfect size; allows full use of h'bars; holds a bunch of stuff. IMHO, the perfect front bag. dougP On Jun 10, 11:22 am, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: The one remaining thing I need to complete my Saluki (Sure, sure you say!) is a handlebar bag. What's your favorite, and why? I will use it on increasingly longer rides in variable weather (I'm in Seattle!), carrying a Panasonic GF1...or a Voigtlander Vitessa on my film days...jacket, rain-chaps, sandwich, banana, and so on, and possibly an S24O later in the season. I have a Berthoud 786 saddle bag, which is large enough for tools and an extra tube, etc. and could be used in conjunction with a smaller bag up front, or left at home if I have a larger bag. Having sold my motorcycle, cost is not so much of a consideration. It's going on a 62cm Saluki on which I have the bars set quite high, so there is approximately six feet of room between the Mark's rack and the handlebars I'm not married to the Mark's rack, if a smaller bag hanging off the bars will work. For summer day-long rides something small could work. Just need room for food and camera. For the rest of the year, I'll need additional space for clothing. I've been eyeing these larger ones: Inujirushi, Acorn boxy rando, Berthoud 28, and these smaller ones: Berthoud 192, Acorn medium handlebar bag, Sackville BarSack and Ortlieb Ultimate 5. Being rain- proof is a serious consideration, 'cause as you know it rains eight months of the year here. A rain cover would do fine though, because it does NOT rain for the other four months. :) I like the idea of waxed canvas, as long as it'll keep the camera dry. Here's the bike: http://www.flickr.com/photos/robharrison/4673037719/ Fenders arriving tomorrow, according to UPS! Thanks for your consideration. Rob in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pari - motos reach the Heart of Dixie- 650B envy
My brother loves 'em. The all black Pari-motos. Two days only one flat! He says it's totally worth it. After 75 miles and fixin a flat he hopped onto the wheel of a spandexed weight weinie who tried desperately and fruitlessly to drop him along a bike path. Grag says it was effortless to roll along compared to his Schwalbes and speedplays (natch). Reminded him of his supple Gran Bois while inspiring more confidence. Did I mention, it is a simply gorgeous tire as well. On May 22, 12:09 pm, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: all this 650B hype has got me planning. And I had just told my chief bicycle counter ( wife) that the '91 RB-1 project was last bike for a while. Now I'm shopping for a new bike. and that Nobilette demountable approach is nifty too, but pricey. I've been looking around at a few custom builders. Some offer that Ritchey break away system which seems really slick. I'm thinking that Travel bike strategy will work ~Mike~ On May 21, 10:00 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I keep eagerly checking the mailbox for mine. They are slated for the 650B conversion of my Davidson Signature. I very eager to try them out! On May 21, 7:47 am, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On May 21, 10:16 am, JL subfas...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested to see these pictures and hear about your ride. IIRC We have near identical Road standards (mind is a '96) and I sometimes consider a 650b conversion for rando purposes. I have some pics here - both of a riv road and pari-motos (though not on the same bike!). http://www.flickr.com/photos/22267...@n02/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
How 'bout this one? It's the same bike benjamin posted. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/4523364737/ On Apr 29, 12:24 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for trying. On Apr 28, 4:19 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Maybe this one? http://tinyurl.com/2ctjvzh That's the same set of pictures that benjamin gave me the link for. The picture I'm looking for was shot facing the front of the bike and the camera was low to the ground. The bike was wearing a Berthoud handle bar bag and a Tubus Nova front rack with no panniers. And for what I wanted to see, the images you guys provided are good enough. Like I said, I just got frustrated that I couldn't find the same picture that I saw earlier. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/22253...@n00/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Daughter's New Whip
Yeah, that's what I noticed too. Unmitigated child's joy! Well done. /leather tape. On Apr 25, 9:33 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Scott, your daughter looks so happy in those pictures. The bike looks really nice for her. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace
don't tell Grant, but I like downtubes better (with indexed rear). Bar end shifters always seem to get knocked out of gear when not riding. I find bar ends ugly too. meh. whatev. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring Advice Offered
On Apr 7, 9:02 pm, Adam wrote: I'd love to hear about about your experiences with the trangia stoves Riv sells after months of cooking. The Trangia is quiet! Which can be very nice for morning coffee. The Trangia is a tad slow, and there is little control of the heat output. The Trangia is by far the easiest style of stove to find fuel for (arguably more-so than wood burning stoves)... and rather miserly in it's use. The Trangia is indestructible. The fuel (alcohol) is very safe but you must be careful when operating. Refueling, knowing when it is lit, spilling etc. The Trangia pretty much requires wind protection. At least a screen if not using the cook system (offered at Rivbike) On the other hand each stove type offers its advantages, get a MSR Simmerlite (my vote for 'white gas'), a Trangia System, and a small canister stove (any). Bring whichever you like for each ride. On a real adventure I'd grab the Trangia. Also bring along a small folding grill top. (REI has 'em) At campsites with fire rings a grill top can't be beat for cooking veggies (Tomatoes onions mushroom summer squash etc) and NY strip steak or ribeye. Your Trangia won't do justice to a good steak. I do this a lot. Personally I don't like the Esbit type systems- messy stinky tablets, and I haven't used the interesting wood gas stoves. As for the water discussion, I'll add that only filter types will rid your water of chemical impurities. Not a problem around towns as you can get municipal water, but nearby farms and industry can have pollutants that biological purification won't help. Chem: Tablets are cheap but a bit of a pain in the butt. (use Vitamin C after iodine to neutralize and for taste) Liquid is easier and quicker with no bad taste but expensive in the long run. Chlorine - Cheap and works, but be careful of dosage and most laundry brands have additional bad stuff. I think the Mioxx system basically makes chlorine. (or some strong base) Filters: have been well covered. Fast clear water with mechanical caveats. Ultraviolet:- Cool. There's not too much that can go wrong. Have batteries, don't break it, and enjoy clean cold brown water! I keed. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
