[RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[Garth]

Of course you can wish  and let it be known !  

I really LOVE bikes that have distinctive color.  When the 64 Clem-L came 
out (it's hard to even say that silly name, it's like naming your daughter 
Pete-L !)  when I saw it was colored Grilver my heart sank to the 
floor.  It was like offering the Coookie Monster a box of plain ol' 
crackers . Not num num !  The heart wants what the heart wants  and and 
all "reasoning" is powerless in It's Presence . 

Of course it coulda been repainted Orange or whatever and renamed 
Clementine but at a considerable extra expense with shipping. Nah ! 



On Thursday, April 25, 2019 at 11:34:59 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Agree. Would not be a lot to ask for just one bike model to be named after 
> a woman. But, hope springs eternal - maybe the Anniversary Mixte will have 
> a feminine name! My hopes are so high for this bike. I should probably 
> settle down until I actually have some cold, hard facts. 
>
> I am pulling for fat tires, step-through top tubes, Rivendell head badge, 
> fancy lugs, and red paint with cream accents. Hey, even nobodies like me 
> can have wish lists, right? 
> 😬

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[RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[Garth]

The general idea is that this is referring to a male and female version of 
the Hilly Bike, like the Betty/Gomez and Clem/Clementine-His/Ladies.  Yes, 
the other frame likely the Anniversary one.  
 
My own comment about the male/female names It's a darn shame Riv caved 
in for whatever reason and changed Clementine to Clem-L. Clementine was and 
is the best name ever for that bike. Oh m' darlin' Clementine  where 
art thou m' darlin' Clementine ? !There's no polite way to say 
it.Clem-L just plain sucks !  Ahahahahaaha ! 


I don't know what kind of device you're viewing on, but it sounds as if you 
are using a mobile device with a browser that either doesn't have text 
reflow (rearranges the text as you make the page larger/smaller,) or it 
does have it and it's not turned on via the setting of that particular 
browser. Also, try switching between desktop and mobile versions of pages. 


On Wednesday, April 24, 2019 at 4:25:31 PM UTC-4, masmojo wrote:
>
> I didn't really read those thumbnails before, because (at least on my 
> computer) the photos & attachments are never "clickable", in other words I 
> can't pull them out & enbiggen them to read them without enlarging the 
> whole web page.
> If you follow the copy down the rabbit hole it does mention 2 (or 3?) 
> Other bikes!? Seems ambitious! Still, the double toptube mixte would seem 
> to be the fabled 25 anniversary bike.
> Fingers crossed!

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[RBW] Re: Mystery bike in April Blahg

[Garth]

There was some about it here  
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/rbw-owners-bunch/Ya-zjaUyqcw/FtFuGNm1AgAJ 
. 

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[RBW] Re: Dealing with verbal harrassment on the road

[Garth]

People gonna say what they're gonna say.. it's not like there's 
anything to do about it ... just let 'em ramble on and move on.  Yes but 
 what if ... ?  You could ask that all day long about everything  
and the answer is the same. What if has nothing to with what is, the living 
present. 

The most hilarious guy was a passenger in a car with the windows rolled up. 
He was yelling something as the car went around me . the window was 
closed of course, so the only one who heard it was the driver ! Just too 
funny !   As for all the honkers and grumblers on the road  they come 
and they go.   By far most people are very friendly, the other day a gruff 
looking guy in a ol' pickup slowed down as I had stopped along the side of 
the road as I was listening to the frogs in the wetlands  he simply 
asked my if everything was alright .  I gave a big thumbs up and a smile 
 there's lots of good people around ... far more than not. 

I find most people quite friendly really  I'm rather communicative on 
the road and rather enjoy it. I don't live in a high traffic area, the cars 
a often few and minutes can pass between cars. There's an older man and his 
wife who I stop and chat with sometimes at a farm i like ride around. He 
used to work in the steel mills, like many in the are did. Hands of iron 
and a heart of gold really  lots of damm nice people around. I love 
riding around local small farms/farmers  I wave to all of them without 
regard... and yes ... I waive to the cows and horses and wild turkeys and 
goats and birds and pretty much anyone and anything.  Riding and walking 
slow and without an agenda to me is way to get around and meet people like 
I never could otherwise. I don't need names . just being here  is 
priceless. 



On Monday, April 22, 2019 at 1:23:28 PM UTC-4, PG wrote:

> This is a fairly comment problem, I know. 
>
> Lately I've had three different incidents where drivers slowed as they 
> passed me and yelled something. One was, "get off the road" while I was 
> riding in a marked bike lane, another was a dressing down after I rolled 
> (at a walking pace) a stop sign in an empty rural intersection, another was 
> something unintelligible. 
>
> I'm 66, and not inclined to interact with anyone verbally or physically, 
> so I ignored them. All three motorists drove off after venting, so nothing 
> happened.
>
> But, if things were to escalate verbally, what would be the best course of 
> action? 
>

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[RBW] Re: New bike woes - Albatross bars and Brooks B17 Special saddle

[Garth]

Speaking for myself, Saddle fore/aft on a given bike is a rather fixed 
position, meaning there is a sweet spot of "centered-ness" within the 
frame. As far as I'm concerned you don't change this just top get more 
reach.  

Whether or not you're there , It's really an intuitive sense. You should be 
able to pedal no handed and feel smack dab centered in the bike, not 
falling forward or back. 

As for getting the saddle back further if needed the best choice bar none 
is the Nitto S84. It has over 40mm of setback. Don't cheap out and get the 
lesser quality VO with only 30mm. 

As for the reach and height of bars, sheesh  that is again is really 
intuitive. An Albatross bar *may* allow you to ride more upright if you 
wish, but the amount is also a function of frame design/reach, bar and stem 
and rider, all together combined. No single part exists and functions in a 
vacuum everything works with everything. 

All that said  enjoy the ride :) 

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[RBW] Re: New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

[Garth]

Cinza, I didn't think of this earlier, but I can easily touchdown my toes 
of one foot solidly while stopped on my 60cm. Bombadil, solidly as solid 
can be.  I never do this though while as my locale and roads ridden don't 
require any extended stops.  Off road if I need to put my toes down I just 
do it without thinking. I'm some 75 inches tall with average limb length. 


Ride and ride with a smile . ride with joy . ride without a without 
!   Pure Being !  


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[RBW] Re: New Here. I am thinking of selling my Betty Foy, any advice on value?

[Garth]

FWIW, if you can pedal mid-foot instead of on your toes you can lower the 
saddle considerably, allowing at least one foot to tip toe on the ground 
when stopped. 

If not, many european and Dutch designed city bikes are designed for a one 
foot touchdown. Here's a couple links that may spark your curiosity. 

http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/06/putting-your-foot-down.html

http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2012/06/how-upright-is-upright.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Iu_Ac_OrZA

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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Garth]

Sorry, I can't dumb it down any more. I'm out. 



On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 5:03:29 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> So because there is a different standard for bottom bracket threading to 
> British, British BB threading is no longer a standard?
>
> If you want to use the Herse brakes, distance between posts should be: 62 
> - 84 mm.  According to discussions I've seen on the forums, back in the 
> heyday of cantilever brakes on MTBs Shimano decreed that posts would be 
> 80mm apart.  Evidently in the past (perhaps even distant past) that spacing 
> had been 60.  The modern standard is 80mm, and it's said all the brakes 
> designed in the last 25 years are built for that.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Garth]

Sorry Steve, no standard. A standard to be a standard must be universal, 
independent of brands of parts, frame or builder. British BB threading, 
that's a standard. 


On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 3:41:21 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> There is a standard, it's just that not everybody has followed it.   Most 
> cantilever brakes try to incorporate a lot of adjustability to compensate 
> for that.  Since the Herse brake is primarily intended for custom bikes, 
> the expectation is the builder will adhere to the published 
> specifications.  In that context, it's a reasonable expectation.  Obviously 
> that doesn't work really well for retrofitting onto an existing frame made 
> with any old whimsical canti post spacing.  However, it's not too likely 
> you'd be putting brakes that cost that much on such a frame in the first 
> place.
> On 4/15/19 3:21 PM, Garth wrote:
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What're the best cantilever brakes out there?

[Garth]

 I too find that price in no guarantees anything more than the expenditure 
itself. For me the best canti per given frame is the one that works. Oh I 
know how that sounds, but from the all the bikes I have/had with canti 
brakes, no 2 are ever alike. For one there is no standard spacing 
vertically or horizontally due to limitless frame designs and constructor 
sensibilities. It's part of the canti "mystique" I suppose.
For every "this *whatever* is best" ... I ask for just whom would that be 
best for, and it seems best for none other than the claim itself, which is 
nobody ! 

What's the canti best brake ?. 
*Whaddaya got, let's try it  ! *


Shimano BR-MC70's, M73x series , Suntour XC Pro and Tektro CR710 all have 
worked well for me. The CR720 ...not so far... maybe on some other bike 
they'll work. Kool Stop Salmon or black pads both work fine. I only use the 
basic straddle carriers, the rest are good for taking up storage space it 
seems.  I prefer posted pads too , especially in the front to clear the 
fork. KS pads can easily be shortened with a pair of snips and a file. The 
pads internal frame only goes back to the last notch in the rubber, 
allowing the easy mod. Pads used to be centered in the 80's so clearance 
was never an issue. I find not one thing beneficial about offset or even 
longer pads than road sized.

Thanks for the heads up about the Altus canti James, I may get a set.  It's 
funny how "low end" parts can be overlooked, when they're often quite fine. 


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[RBW] Re: Threadless Headset Questions

[Garth]

DP, this video may assist you. The fellow named WheeliePete from YT has a 
way of explaining the whole threadless system in an easy to understand 
fashion, complete with hand drawn blueprint of "how it works".   This is 
what I do appreciate about YT, the guys who post how-to videos in easily 
understandable manners.  Reminds me of my brother, a former military and 
airline flight mechanic who can simplify literally anything, as really 
everything is basically doohickeys we play around with. Adults give them 
important names and such and make them "big deals" for gain, kids call know 
them as toys and just play with them for the fun of fun ! 


   I've never had a threadless HS, and after watching this it's like, "oh, 
that was simple".   Threaded HS are also simple in their own way. Using 
lock nuts wasn't the only way . American Classic once made their Trilock HS 
that used a threaded collet and a 2.5mm wrench to adjust it. It was 
wonderfully simple but aluminum was not a good choice for the collet as it 
would crack over time. 

>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LTCthtmjD0


  

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[RBW] Re: Friction vs Indexed

[Garth]

Shifting like everything . There's no going-getting-it "wrong" OR 
"right"   There's just Going  Riding along .   Any shifts within 
the Ride are the very Identical Ride Itself. The Ride Riding(shifting) 
the Ride.   

Oh yes  "what about me, the rider" ?  Ahahaahahah  The Ride is the 
Rider as the Rider is the Ride !  Inseparable ;-)  

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[RBW] Re: Grant’s Hillybike Concept Attempts to Restore Balance to the Speed of Humanity

[Garth]

   "Just ride" means exactly that ... just ride .   No agenda . Riding 
doesn't need a reason  riding doesn't care about clothing, conditions, 
parts,  what this that or the other represents to the ride or about the 
ride. The ride is all about the ride just ride ! .. lest the ride 
not be the ride  but an agenda pretending to be the ride. in which 
case the agenda is all about the agenda and doesn't give a hoot about the 
ride. To the agenda , the ride is but some-thing to use to promote the 
agenda, to further the agenda.   The ride however is indeed the ride 
however the ride rides the ride.  Not even agendas have any say in the ride 
. such are powerless in the face of the ride... because the ride is 
purely the ride . none other than itself. The ride rides the ride .
An agenda requires some-thing-other-than-itself to further the agenda . 
but the ride has no requirements to ride the ride and the rides rides and 
rides and rides Infinitum all by Itself. Without a without . Complete 
in Itself. "The Ride"  is Pure Love  Love Loving Love's Loving Love.  
 Wholyness . 


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[RBW] Re: Time trial 'bike' - is it a thing?!

[Garth]

Such design was in vogue in the 80's/90's. That's a track bike, 
obviously, and here is road TT bike ridden by 5 time TDF Champ Miguel 
Indurain, A Pinarello ridden in 1992.  He's 6'2 .
http://www.vintageluxurybicycles.com/indurain-tt

And some of various designs from the 80's on up. Before that riders used 
their regular road bike for time trials, though they may have done some 
extreme weight savings measures like drilling holes in various parts.
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/racing/time-trialling-through-the-ages-25190
http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/extras/drillium-extras.html

The only difference nowadayze is that everything for racing is carbon, but 
the premise remains the same , speed speed speed ! . minimize weight 
and aero drag. While these designs may appear odd in comparing to a Riv 
kinda bike, a bike is still a bike regardless. We all have our "reasons" , 
none of which are any better/more/worse/less than any other.   As if any 
bike/ride/rider is more/less "special" than any other !  HaH !   Oh yes 
 listen to the cries  yes-but . yes-but  oh the yes-buts 
. yes-but  So What !Ahahaahaaha !  . and keep a rollin' on 
our merry way ... over hill and over 'dale . yonder and hither  
round and and round we go . and ever ever still  here are are . 

How many riders of bikes "like ours" can ride 188km on the backroads of 
Colombia and Africa on a time trial bike ?  Imagine the screams and cries 
 where's my big tires where's my long chainstays where's my 
upright position  where oh where is my darling Clementine !  
Ahahahahahahaa !   Mad good riding for sure !   

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/chris-froome-takes-time-trial-bike-off-road-latest-strava-ride-406136




 
On Wednesday, April 3, 2019 at 7:20:08 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
>
> First I thought it must an April fool post.  I had no clue such thing 
> existed.  An inverted Riv of sorts!
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/sacramento-1986-nishiki-linear-pursuit/6848557336.html
>
>

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[RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

[Garth]

Life is Living and Living is Life.  Indivisibility, Infinity .  Life cannot 
harm or heal Life for the simple fact that *Life Itself Living is Living 
Itself Life  .*   

Life is Life's Own-Life.. 


BEING The BEING That BEING Be  BEING ITSELF* .   * The who, what, 
where, when, why and how  ALL BEING Being The ALL BEING ... ALL-ITSELF .


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[RBW] Re: To Helmet or not

[Garth]

Smile . 

https://youtu.be/KPjDfN9E74o

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[RBW] Re: Bikelessness

[Garth]

Try A Vegas Mobile Bike repair !  Apparently, they'll come to your home and* 
work while you are present *, get it ?   Be curious about what they are 
doing and you just may get some curiously helpful hints on adjusting 
whatever .
There are 3 to choose from . 

https://www.yelp.com/biz/las-vegas-mobile-bike-repair-las-vegas

https://www.yelp.com/biz/mcgs-rollin-workshop-henderson-6

https://www.yelp.com/biz/velofix-las-vegas-5?osq=velofix

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Re: [RBW] Bikelessness

[Garth]

Vegas Mobile Bike Repair !   

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[RBW] Re: Quick release rear rack basket or crate?

[Garth]

Of course I ignored the request about being on *top* of a rack, as the 
side by side deal would to me be more stable. Otherwise no company makes 
anything as robust as genuine milk crates... attaching it solidly I can't 
help you there. It' just better be as solid as that crate ! 

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[RBW] Re: Quick release rear rack basket or crate?

[Garth]

   Somethin' like these ? 

https://www.amazon.com/Bushwhacker-Omaha-Bicycle-Grocery-Accessories/dp/B00B4ZKZK0

https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FGBP

https://banjobrothers.com/collections/panniers/products/minnehaha-canvas-grocery-pannier

https://banjobrothers.com/products/grocery-pannier-folding   (sold out 
until later in the month)

  
The Omaha as I recall has been around for decades. I had set of them or 
some just like then years ago(not anymore) and they worked fine. 

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[RBW] Re: Midweight Hoody Recommendation

[Garth]

 I like their clothing too Dave, so much so I bought 2 of the Squamish 
Hoodies a few years ago in different colors, on sale of course !  They 
easily make the best fitting hoods and with functional adjustments if 
called for.  I get the price consideration, but do it all jackets like 
those tend to be high priced to start with. Not that they need to , but 
because they can.  I'm not recommending the Squamish by any means, I like 
it because it's high breathability and un-totally-windproofness lends 
itself to a great range of temps and activities walking or riding or 
whatever, so I can customize what I wear underneath, which is basically 
anything.  That's why I never bought a all-in-one kinda jacket as it has a 
fixed amount of insulation whereas just the shell offers unlimited choices 
underneath or over top. Sometimes I'll even wear it with a Mountain 
Hardwear super thin wind resistant vest that has a mesh back, for extra 
wind buffer on the chest then take one or the other off as my body temp 
raises.  The Squamish hood is just darn perfect too, it fits like it was 
custom made.  It too has a high retail price, much moreso than even a 
Patagucci Houdini that for me sucked in every way and wouldn't wear if was 
free.  The "just works for me" factor trumps whatever the Squamish may 
cost, I would pay retail for it if needed . 


On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 8:53:05 AM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I know Garth.  I really like it.  The reviews of it are great and it is 
> exactly what I want.  Simple, clean, and durable.  And I've owned Arcteryx 
> stuff over the years and they are no joke about backing their products.  
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Midweight Hoody Recommendation

[Garth]

  Hey Dave . don't let the buts butt you from wearing what suits you.  
  Backcountry even has some colors for 30% off , so no excuses !

You can buy it now, or get another jacket you didn't want and pay even more 
later for what you originally had in mind.  It's not a consumable like a 
dinner, a vacation or a hotel room after all . 

https://www.backcountry.com/arc-teryx-atom-lt-hooded-insulated-jacket-mens



On Monday, March 18, 2019 at 4:06:51 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> Hey Y'all,
>
> I'm looking for a new spring/fall mid-weight hoody.  I'd like to get 
> something with some insulation, rain repellency, zip chest pocket, and 
> durability.  I've been eyeing the Arcteryx Atom LT Hoody but it ain't cheap.
>
> I have the Revelate Hoody which I love but I wouldn't mind something with 
> a full zip as well.  I'd use it for riding, packing, general life, etc.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Enable my bicycle buying issues!

[Garth]

 I don't know your body type or riding stance-positioning-preferences 
Keith but from afar your Road Riv look way cramped-scrunched to be 
riding with Albatross bars on THAT particular frame with THAT particular 
stem length !  

   This coming from one who finds a bolt upright scrunched English-Dutch 
3-speed knee knocking style utterly well I'll just say it doesn't suit 
myself at all and cannot 

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[RBW] Re: Coffee grinders -- I **know** that this is NOT off topic!

[Garth]

  The perfect cup o' coffee is the one in hand  ... 
  

  In hand is where Home is . Home is where the Heart is  and the 
Heart is where Love is  and Love is where Everything is Love .   With 
Love Everything , Everywhere and Everyone is the finest.


  Three cheers for Love and Love is the finest cup of All !  

  Bon Appetit Everyone !  
 
   

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[RBW] Re: T780 Front derailleur: which chainstay angle 63, 66, 69? Sam Hillborne and/or Cheviot FD-T780

[Garth]

   The 63-66 angle is for 29ers and road bikes with more drop than say a 
26" wheel mtb which would use the 66-69.  If you look at all the Shimano 
road FD specs they specify 61-66 CS angle. You must remember too that the 
XT, even the trekking group are designed for the 50mm chainline of an 
outboard crank. Riv mentions that with a XD crank you'd need a 113mm BB for 
the XT FD to clear. 

 Shimano Trekking cranks come stock with 26/36/48, close enough. It's not 
that it can't take a 24, it's that the Trekking group comes with a 26 low, 
48 high, 22t limit. *To Shimano that is Shimano's limit, that limit of 
their manufacture. *For everyone else, it's whatever works for whom 
whatever works. 

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[RBW] Re: Riv is again advertising the Rodeo on the frames page

[Garth]

As to complaining about this that or the other of Riv or any other 
business I say if/when(never) you get your big boy pants on and 
actually own and run SAID company in TOTAL ,  get back to us about ALL and 
ANY of it .Non-sense  ... sense-no-makey !  

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[RBW] Re: Ride in the wind -- or not?

[Garth]

I really don't mind about what the wind speed is for riding as far 
exertion, it's that with my narrow roads and not being able to have full 
control over the steering in the swirls and gusts it's not worth it. My 
Frankin bike with lower trail handles fairly well in any wind, the Bombadil 
can be downright scary at times as in a high cross wind I'm a mere 
passenger, wherever the winds blows . so blows the bike and I and it's 
non-negotiable. I've been "driven" many a times.This would be fun off 
road and in open land but I have no such place around here to ride.  On 
such days I go for walk in the hills that I walk in the winter. On top of 
the highest hill in summer is rather fun as the wind is highest up there. 
In the winter I don't ride and when we get lake effect micro snow squalls I 
go up there and with layer upon layer of hills watching it all unfold is 
priceless and indescribable. I laugh like a little kid the whole time. 
It's like a living portrait, completely alive ! There is dog that lives on 
that hill in home that was originally built by my uncle in the 70's. Since 
I can recall every time she is outside and sees me she gallops like a horse 
with big grin on her face in eager anticipation of walking with me around 
the neighborhood. That's Shelby girl ! 

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[RBW] Re: Gettin’ Cranky

[Garth]

   Asking Grant, the source of the statement in question, answers what he 
meant ;-)   Tah-dah ! 


On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 7:20:38 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> *“TNot a fan of this look. There are nice-looking ways to do the same.”* 
>
> What are the nice-looking ways to do the same? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Re: 25th Anniversary Riv

[Garth]

  When I think of sparkling red paint that turns heads . SCREAMING 
RE ! .  I think of a liquid candied red with oodles of depth that 
really POPS OUT at you in the Sun !  

Otherwise  we aren't talking "screaming" ... like Lightning on 2 wheels 
. but yawning-ho-hum-time-for-a-nappie. 

Something in the ballpark of this : 
https://www.thepowdercoatstore.com/products/candy-red-powder-coat









On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 12:52:14 AM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
>
> 5. The thing I really, really, really want: Sparkly red paint with cream 
> accents and the Rivendell head badge. You know the kind of red that stops 
> you in your tracks, turns heads, convinces you you’re 16 and makes people 
> let out a long, low whistle? THAT red. 
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Query for Tig Weld Bar Owners

[Garth]

FWIW, here are some Nitto Bullmoose bars, fillet and TIG :   Seems like the 
waves break up the surface , not unlike on water, so there still may be 
some reflecting, they would be more scattered making them less visible from 
any given position. 

(press  Ctrl +  to enlarge if needed)

https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/oo/400_constH/HBNIBULL906_P2.jpg

https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/oo/400_constH/HBNIBULL906_P3.jpg


Nitto Bullmoose b901 TIG : 
https://global.bluelug.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/catalog-large/800x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/i/1img_0480.jpg

Bosco bullmoose TIG :   
https://global.bluelug.com/media/catalog/product/cache/2/catalog-large/800x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/d/1dpp_39652.jpg
   
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/7343/products/hb12-58-5_1600x.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Mark's Rack on skinny tired bike

[Garth]

Of course you can mount it up front, whether or not you like how it 
handles you'll just have to experience for yourself.  I have a Franklin 
custom bike that takes 25-35mm tires and I tried a Nitto double strut 
front/rear rack(a full size Mark's rack essentially) up front and thought 
it would be great, but I didn't like the feeling of any weight up front 
with it so I took it off.  It had nothing to do with tire size, it was the 
geometry and all that jazz. 




On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 8:37:56 PM UTC-5, J Imler wrote:
>
> I built this road frame up because it's winterish here and I like to have 
> projects going most of the time anyway. I've got a Mark's Rack I could put 
> on this and I am pro utilitarian riding. But a front rack w/ basket on a 
> 25mm tired wheel? Maybe too thin, right? Max tire width up front is 28mm 
> with the right tire. Got Marathons on now so it's a 25mm.
>
> Let me know if you have experience with something like this. Before you 
> view, the frame is "ice pink", which doesn't particularly bother me, so 
> yeah, plus they were basically giving it away. 
>
> Pics - 
> https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1-3QgdHl_a4A-3wjOwK1BU-yfbcUKftJK
>
> Thanks
>
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[RBW] Re: cheviot and tall people

[Garth]

   
Riv advised so for a very good reason  do heed it as they don't want 
unhappy customers anymore than you want to be one !

For the most part bikes for tall people not only need to to be taller but 
longer in overall reach from center, without the need for very tall/long 
reach stems and/or long(>25mm) setback seatposts.  Save your cash for a 
custom as you can pay for it now, or buy some frames that don't fit and end 
up selling... amounting to more time/effort/angst/$$ than if you had just 
bought the custom one first of all. 


On Saturday, January 19, 2019 at 2:54:31 PM UTC-5, Tom Horton wrote:
>
> I've always loved the cheviot's looks, but riv has advised too small for 
> me. anyone out there about 6-5 97 pbh riding one? how is it? my current 
> rivs from 62 to 68, all good.
>

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[RBW] Re: Lack of Betty Foys for sale.

[Garth]

It's not a mystery, a Betty is a Betty and there's only one Betty... as 
a Cheviot is Cheviot  etc. etc.  They are each perfect just as they 
are. The web , however one views it, isn't all-inclusive, not ALL or even 
remotely so.  For example, it's like looking in a printed newspaper at the 
classified and assuming that's all that is for sale, when it's not ALL at 
all !  Assuming another medium could list more for sale will show more, but 
it's still not ALL. Only ALL is ALL and ALL is Infinity ;-) .  

  

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[RBW] Re: Take-apart Cheviot?

[Garth]

 Go to S&S website's link and contact a builder(s).  

http://www.sandsmachine.com/#retrofit

http://www.sandsmachine.com/fbplist.htm

Even tandems can be coupled and cased.  As for fitting in a case for 
travel, refer to the list on the retrofit page as well as the builders 
contacted. Someone who does couplers often like Bilenky could answer about 
a case for an *atypical *long wheelbase bike such a the ones Riv sells.  I 
suspect it would require a tandem case, though a guess.


On Sunday, January 13, 2019 at 11:43:16 AM UTC-5, Max S wrote:
>
> So, has anyone seen / ordered a Cheviot with couplers for travel?.. 
> Inquiring minds want to know. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Of Fishnet Long Johns and Boiled Wool

[Garth]

Try no baselayer tops at all PM, just regular polyester fleece. My 
favorites are basic fleece like Polartec's 100, 200 and WindPro of varying 
weights.  I tried this on a whim one cold 20 degree winters day, wearing 
both a 100 1/4 zip and 200 full zip jacket with a LL Bean supplex nylon 1/2 
zip Anorak over them while hiking up and down my local hills. All very 
loose fitting. The Anorak is a way oversized vintage XXL tall , while I 
usually wear large in most clothing. It has drawcords around the hood and 
waist and bottom hem, and it's a good 32 inches long to cover the rear and 
hips so opening it up for a chimney cooling effect is great.  Since there 
is no base fabric to absorb any perspiration, it evaporates very quickly 
off the skin. Any moisture that contacts the fleece dries very quickly from 
body heat and there is no "rebound" effect of a chill as I never get too 
wet and hot. Staying "just right" feeling is very easy.  It's all pretty 
cool ! 






On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 8:26:14 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Good to know that fishnet, even synthetic, works under synthetics. I hope 
> to try the combination.
>
> One big liability for wool, otherwise wonderful, is moths; dismaying to 
> buy an expensive top and, 2 years later find a moth hole in it. If 
> synthetic mesh and tops work well, perhaps they'll be an alternative to 
> wool.
>

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[RBW] Re: Another Riv Financial Situation Thread

[Garth]

   I'm perfectly happy riding with what some may call "old" stuff.  Old 
 just how "old" is the present -at-hand anyways ? No joke. I like that 
at least smeone else likes "old" stuff at-hand also. The present-at-hand 
has never worn out and never will.  Just because there is other stuff 
called "new" doesn't and cannot alter working stuff from working.  So in 
regards to businesses selling "old technology" , all I can say is why not 
?  I also like "old designs" of clothing, stuff that fits loose and relaxed 
and supple fabrics that feel pleasant next to the skin. I love high rise 
pleated pants with tapered cuffs. The current trend of 
minimalizing/slimming/tapering I have no taste for.  The same with bike 
stuff, I have no taste for the latest stuff. Is there a market for "old" 
stuff ?  Of course there is.  Take a look at places that sell "used" stuff, 
or redesigned/reissued/recreated stuff at-hand. What difference does it 
make to me when or where or how the stuff I prefer "came to be", it's 
his-story ?  None of course. There's no time like present, literally and 
absolutely !  

   As for so called "experts on success", hah hah  neither .  

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[RBW] Re: Say “Ahhhh” Brake Pads

[Garth]

  Those are perfect Brian as they are standard dura-type road sized pads .  



On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 12:00:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Are these too long?
>
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/KOOL-STOP-DURA2-CROSS-PAD-THREADED-CYCLOCROSS-TRIPLE-COMPOUND-BIKE-BRAKE-PADS-CX/302939047259?epid=1000103271&hash=item468893055b:g:FPwAAOSwPGpbGCsv:rk:1:pf:0
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[RBW] Re: Say “Ahhhh” Brake Pads

[Garth]

Yes ! I do this with smooth post canti pads.  I never ever ever found 
any benefit to the long pads when they became a thing in the 90's. The 
Suntour XC Pro original pads were Superbe Pro road sized and shaped and are 
the best brakes I've used. The Kool Stops have an internal frame in the pad 
but it's not the full length of the pad, it only goes to the last notch in 
the pad, which lend itself perfectly to a chop with some good shears or 
anything else you want to use. Depending on the frame, the frame end may 
require a touch of filing. 

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[RBW] Re: Which 26.8 Seat Post Has Most Setback?

[Garth]

  A Kalloy 602 is listed as 24mm some places and 30mm others .

  A Dajia seatpost from VO , likely a Kalloy somethin'-somethin' model 
rebrand,  also listed @24mm. 

  
   
  

   

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[RBW] Re: Chapter 11 for parent company of Performance Bike

[Garth]

   There's always more to a story !It seems to me it will be more of 
re-arrangement of their operations. They started as a mail order company, 
and who knows maybe they'll go back to that mostly with stores just in 
certain high demand areas. 


https://www.bicycleretailer.com/industry-news/2018/11/15/ase-owner-performance-bicycle-and-asi-file-chapter-11



On Monday, December 17, 2018 at 10:16:54 PM UTC-5, tc wrote:
>
> I just read this:  https://www.performancebike.com/shop/importantupdate
>
> Sad to see another shop hit the dust.  My local PB was very convenient for 
> picking up odds and ends that Riv was out of or didn't carry.
>
> Tom
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Re: [RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

  
 Uh  no shit Patrick !   Now you're gettin' it ! 
 

On Wednesday, December 12, 2018 at 4:42:02 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> Garth: Make assertion; deny validity of assertion; tape over logical 
> contradiction with smile. 
>
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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

Still,  for any and all personal experience/aka opinions, including 
this, is so utterly biased, limited and non-sensical it cannot see past 
it's nose/knows/opining ..Aahahahaahahaha !  

Regardless of the bike or where, for every so called rule you will see 
someone that contradicts it, where it is not applicable, because such rules 
are not rules at all but personal opinions , and you know what they say 
about opinions and everyone having one ;-)

 

just gotta smile with it ALL !! ... or not ... and smile about nothing  
or frown  and smile about frowning ... .. hardy har har ! 

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[RBW] Re: Putting My Foot Down

[Garth]

  Lower your saddle and/or take no thought about it.   Take a look at your 
"average" European cyclist you see in the streets... the people for whom 
cycling is simple a part of everyday living. The men and women who ride in 
everything business suits and loafers to full dresses and high heels.  What 
I see is no one adhering to any such subjective "rule" about saddle height 
and leg bend angle and all the techno mumbo jumbo that really has no basis 
in truth because if it did, everyone who didn't adhere to it would "suffer 
the dire consequences" that  "saddle position theories" claims will happen 
if you don't worship it.  Tell that to grandma in Amsterdam who's been 
riding here whole life her saddle is too low, that she can ride 
better/faster/stronger ... that what she's doing is "wrong" and can be 
"improved",  and see how that goes !   



On Tuesday, December 11, 2018 at 4:21:53 PM UTC-5, Marty Gierke, 
Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
> Literally. I want to be able to put my foot down from my "in the saddle" 
> position and not have to lean over at all, or maybe just a little, and not 
> have to do a full ballerina pointe. Like many of you I'm guessing, I have 
> an ancient echo in my head that tells my how my leg should be only slightly 
> bent while in the saddle, or that if I pedal backwards with the ball of my 
> foot on the pedal my hips should not rock. I've taken for granted that when 
> I set the saddle height to accomplish both of those, it comes at the 
> expense of putting my foot down (quickly and easily) at a stop sign or 
> unexpected roadside beer tent. I presume the echo is residue from some 
> racer-oriented mag I once read. It's high time I release the un-racer in me 
> and embrace the low-down. 
>
> So how do you do it? How bent is your knee at 6 o'clock? Can you put your 
> foot down? 
>
> Marty
>

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Re: [RBW] Grant's BLAHG: Gus Boots update: headbadge, etc.

[Garth]

   Nah No reason to leave Clayton.   I too can see how this 
place and a few "Riv followers/defenders/etc." can be seen like church 
zealots, but zealots are zealots and they'll use *anything* as an excuse(in 
this case Riv/GP) for their behavior ... " I'm only defending *fill in the 
blank* so that excuses my behavior however that may be" . 

LIke 2 sides of the same one coin, one always blaming the other for why 
they are as they are,  threatening to annihilate the other... but of course 
no one side will ever win because that would the end of both and neither 
side wants that.. and the charade goes on . 

Have a chuckle ... on me . 



 



On Friday, November 23, 2018 at 3:37:05 PM UTC-5, Clayton wrote:
>
> Unsubscribe me. I call things like I see them.  Boy I am pissed, and my 
> PTSD is pinned. 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Grant's BLAHG: Gus Boots update: headbadge, etc.

[Garth]

Clayton,   Have you asked Grant about the bike you describe being a custom 
build and were turned down, or is your "disappointment" over a production 
frame that they do not make ?  What difference does it make whether it's a 
production or custom ? (Dollars is no excuse when it comes to a "dream" )  



On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 2:33:43 PM UTC-5, Clayton wrote:
>
>
> To be clear, I wanted a lugged, light, straight tubed, just like my 
> Atlantis, but with bigger tire clearance and triple mounts galore. I have 
> dreamt of ‘my’ Rivendell bikepacker for over a decade, and have held out 
> buying a dedicated bikepacker, waiting for Riv to make one. The Boots is 
> not what I dreamt of, so I am very disappointed. My opinions stemmed from 
> that disappointment. It probably is going to be an awesome bike. 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Work Stand Suggestions

[Garth]

There's no substitute for the genuine Park shop repair stand for rock solid 
stability and durability.  

https://www.parktool.com/category/shop

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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders wear for wind-stopping hats for helmet-less winter riding?

[Garth]

  Yes !  Balaclavas are my favorite winter headwear. I have thin ones, 
thick vintage Patagonia Powerstretch ones and this wondrous super thick 
Wind Pro X-Treme Hood from Serius that I wear out walking when it's near 
zero outside or I want some instant heat indoors on a cold day.  Encircling 
the whole head sans face rather than just a hat does wonders. Even the a 
thin balaclava worn under any cap works . 



On Monday, November 12, 2018 at 1:34:57 PM UTC-5, Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
> I find a balaclava under my hat keeps me much warmer I am using the minus 
> 33 balaclava these days. Steve
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders wear for wind-stopping hats for helmet-less winter riding?

[Garth]

Any hat made from Polartec Wind Pro specifically. It's a denser weave than 
regular fleece, sticking to me a "just right" balance . The marketing claim 
says 4x the wind resistance compared to regular Polartec (100, 200 etc.). 
Forget Windstopper or anything with a barrier/laminate as it's sweaty and 
inhibits hearing. 

Even layering a thin hat over a thin balaclava works really well , 2 thin 
layers rather than one thicker layer. 
  


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[RBW] Re: Winter wool baselayer rec needed

[Garth]

I can only speak for my own experience, and that is while it sounds great 
in theory "wool doesn't stink so I don't have to wash it as often"   
while it may not smell like a synthetic gone afoul , it does not mean that 
it feels "clean" or very good the next day after sweating in it.  I've 
found no matter what the material is after sweating in it I  prefer not to 
wear it again until washed.  I wash synthetics daily in a bucket and drip 
dry in the bathroom in winter or outside in summer. It takes about 5-10 
minutes . I have synthetics decades old that have no odd odors.  

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[RBW] Re: Anyone compared Schwable Almotions to Supremes?

[Garth]

   John, Flats are @ what PSI ?

You may simply need to lower the pressure. I run 40mm Vittoria Hypers @ 
33-40 psi and they have been flat free over 3 pairs. 



On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 11:30:45 AM UTC-5, John Phillips wrote:
>
> Been getting too many flats lately, perhaps due to all the 
> construction in my neighborhood, so I'm trying to decide which touring tire 
> to try out in the 50-55mm range. Has anyone compared the Schwalbe Marathon 
> Almotion to the Marathon Supreme?
>
> I'm hoping for a tire to get me home from the store with my wife's mochi 
> ice cream intact without having to go as far as Mondials or the Marathon 
> pluses.
>
> Thnx,
> John
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[RBW] Re: Long shot, I know, but just in case: ISO Ritchey road/cyclocross stem, -17*, 10 cm

[Garth]

  It looks just this Patrick from your photo, a *WCS C220 73D Stem*  :  
https://us.ritcheylogic.com/us_en/wcs-c220-73d-stem

If no one has one here it is sold all over online . 



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[RBW] Re: No more cheap bikes from China

[Garth]

   Yes doubly Please , no politics period !

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/WJD0tP3PT9Y

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[RBW] Re: Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

[Garth]

   This is worth reading 
 http://normaali.net/temp/Front-End-Geometry.pdf

 If you really want to do this and work with someone who experience adding 
a new fork on existing frames, and not just out of mere curiosity or 
thinking you can save a buck by not buying another frame that handles 
differently   it'll work out just fine. 



On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 3:13:07 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Has anyone converted a Rivendell to a lower trail front geometry?  If so, 
> did the change result in problems?   
>
> Was wondering if the laid back STA & HTA used on Rivendells has an affect 
> when going to a lower trail.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver 2 thumb shifters on the Blahg

[Garth]

  
  
 Ginz, How Riv does this, that or the other is always changing :)  If the 
DT lever shape was so perfect first of all they wouldn't be selling and 
using the Sun Race levers in the photo , nor would they be investing time 
and resources into their own short, wide curved lever just like the Sun 
Tour ! 

  Regardless, their are endless distinctions as exactly where/how 
thumbshifters can be mounted/used. The "best way" is whatever way is 
perfectly obvious for whom it is perfectly obvious, always totally unique, 
never the same twice !   
  


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[RBW] Re: Silver 2 thumb shifters on the Blahg

[Garth]

A long lever fits and index finger rather nicely, great for reaching down 
to the dt. Bar top shifting as I have used my Sun Tours since '84 is more 
of a rotating motion like turning a key in a lock. Having a short thick 
lever, more volume in hand, makes it bit easier for those tiny movements 
than a long thin lever can. 

Adapting dt levers top bar use seemed to me more out the lack of anyone 
wanting to manufacture a Sun Tour-like shape. So everyone started copying 
each other to build more adapters for levers and calling them 
"thumbshiters" .  It's like buying a generic version of something and 
saying "it works/tastes *like* the original, but it is most assuredly *unlike 
it *".   


On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 6:16:53 PM UTC-4, Ginz wrote:
>
> When using the full sized silver shifter, is it too long and create too 
> much leverage? A shorter lever is best for thumbs? For some reason that 
> surprises me. 

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[RBW] Re: Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

[Garth]

   There's these custom made cranks from High Sierra Cycle Center. These 
guys make the custom cranks for Zinn. 

http://www.hscycle.com/Pages/customcrankset.html

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[RBW] Re: Tapping DT cable stops

[Garth]

 Here's a bunch of examples for you William! 
  https://trainers4me.com/2/Vintage-Bicycle-Parts-Shifters-Clamp/

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[RBW] Re: Tapping DT cable stops

[Garth]

   DT cable stops are not suitable for tapping. You're better off buying a 
set of clamp-on DT shifters from ebay.  Campy, Sun Tour, Simplex, Shimano 
and more all made them as frames formerly had no bosses for shifters at 
all.  I know the Campy ones at least the shitfters themselves are removable 
and can be replaced with any other dt shifter. 



On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 12:04:53 PM UTC-4, William! wrote:
>
> My Legolas has DT cable stops instead of bosses like most steel frames. 
> Weight savings I guess? Anyway I’d really like some barrel adjusters to 
> dial in shifting, and I don’t like the inline stuff. So I’m thinking of 
> threading the stops with an M5 tap. 
>
> Anyone done this?

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[RBW] Re: Glue for headbadge?

[Garth]

On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 3:13:32 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
> My roadini headbadge is a little loose with a gap on top.  What glue to use?  
> 
> 
> It's almost done more test riding and then handlebar wrap

Some clear silicone adhesive sealant like Permatex RTV works well and is easily 
removable with some floss. Apply enough that is oozes from the sides and wipe 
the excess with a finger around the edges. No more gaps ! 

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Mixte? Yves Gomez/Betty Foy Geometry?

[Garth]

Size,bbdrop,rhub,sta,hta,rake,tt,fntctr,chstay,wheel,max.tire,brake

Betty Foy / Yves Gomez
47 52.0 135  72 70 5.5 53.5 60 45 559/26 in. 26x40 ? lr side
52 64.0 135  72 70 5.5 57.5 63 45 584/650b 650x45 ? lr side 
58 64.0 135  72 70 5.5 59.5 65.5 45 584/650b 650x45 ? lr side 
62  135  72 70 6.2 61.5 69 47 622/700c 700x40 ? lr side 

> Can’t find geometry - anyone have geo chart for Betty Foy/Yves Gomez?
> 
> Thanks,
> David
> River Grove, IL

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[RBW] Picture from the Blahg of Gus in action

[Garth]

Open the image in it's own tab for full size, if one is wondering. The 
background bike appears to have the lugged Riv Ahead stem as it's a single bolt 
for 25.4 bar. The bars have the tell tale right side vertical band, though in 
b&w, signifying heat treated Al. My guess is a Nitto b812 from Blue Lug. Fwiw, 
the Wavie bar that I saw from awhile ago appeared to be steel finish. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bluelug/32254862794

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[RBW] Re: Clem L 59 -- Considering a purchase

[Garth]

FWIW, You can get a more accurate measurement of wheelbase measuring c-c @ 
the quick release centers. 


On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:43:06 AM UTC-4, RDS wrote:
>
> What is the wheelbase length (meaning the distance b/t where the two tires 
> make ground contact) for the 59 Clem L.  I have to put my bike on a tray 
> style bike rack to go somewhere to ride and now am wondering if it will fit 
> or not.  
>
>
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[RBW] Re: In praise of the Betty - Ride report

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   Thanks for the wonderous story !  

 I may not own a Betty but I sure do absolutely Love the colors and details. By 
far my favorite of the stock colors on any frame they have sold. I do however 
have a Betty coin purse and use it daily, one of those squeezable plastic oval 
thingies that has a slit in the middle. A cool pastel pink. I'm a sucker for 
all colors pastel !  

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Re: [RBW] Re: PURPLE RIV IN BICYCLE QUARTERLY

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   Thank you Eric for the explanation .  

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[RBW] Re: PURPLE RIV IN BICYCLE QUARTERLY

[Garth]

 
  


On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:59:03 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> What the story is...IS!

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[RBW] Re: PURPLE RIV IN BICYCLE QUARTERLY

[Garth]

   You just acknowledged there is. 
  

On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 12:17:26 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote:
>
> There is no story. 
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: PURPLE RIV IN BICYCLE QUARTERLY

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   What's the story ?  I mean gee, an announcement of a story without the story 
itself . 




 'tis like that !   

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[RBW] Re: Heard my first "Hey, nice Riv!" today. Felt chuffed

[Garth]

Around here in this little corner of O-Hi-O there are few cyclists. I once 
saw another cyclist about a month I go, thought I do see banana peels on 
the side of the road more often, maybe once every 2-3 weeks.  I guess 
tossing the peel into the grass must just be too laborious for the poor 
soul  hah !  The "bike store" in town is Wally World(that's Wal-Mart 
for the unimaginable). Always stocked with fresh bikes ready to roll off 
the shiny "showroom floor"  kinda literally !

   I did meet one cyclists a few years back, a lawyerly fella who knew what 
a Rivendell Bombadill sorta was at least, but apparently it was unworthy 
compared to the plas-tique space ship he was riding   Va va varm 
and away he went into the statosphere faster than light . onto the 
wings of angels I suppose ..or so the promise goes . ahahahahahaa ! 

   Someone did compliment the ol' warhorse once though  "Hey ... you 
ride that old thing everywhere " .   Yes I do ... I certainly do ! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b narrow tires

[Garth]

As for the Terry tire being 650c/571 . "c" *must* be for *Cookie* ;-)
Cookie Cookie Cookie !  more Cookies !


Obviously a typo for the Panaracer , stuff happens even for bike parts 
dealers. I guess no cookie for them !  hardy har har  .

Still, this one is listed too ...   
https://www.modernbike.com/ritchey-tom-slick-wcs-k-tire-27.5-650b-x-1.1

Tom must like Cookies. 




On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 7:39:02 AM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting.,  Notethe claimed sizes.  1.75 is 1 3/4".  That should be 
> what in mm?  44.  And yet, the copy says this is a 25mm tire.  Does that 
> make even the slightest bit of sense?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 650b narrow tires

[Garth]

  A Terry Tellus tire also 
.  http://www.terrybicycles.com/accessories/tires-tubes-1/tellus-pt-tire-x-c-


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[RBW] Re: 650b narrow tires

[Garth]

 Modern Bike website lists a 25 and 28mm 
 https://www.modernbike.com/650b---27.5-tires . Refine width on the 
left side. 


On Tuesday, October 2, 2018 at 5:50:21 PM UTC-4, G.E. wrote:
>
> I realize this is a strange thing to be asking (particularly here, since 
> most are riding wider tires), and normally I'd be looking for the widest 
> possible tire to fit on a bike myself, but I'm curious if anyone has seen 
> and/or used a 650b tire that is 30mm or narrower? I've seen a couple of 
> options in a 32mm, but am specifically hunting for something narrower than 
> that. Though it's unlikely to exist, I thought perhaps someone may have run 
> across a tire of this sort.
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>

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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for floor pumps?

[Garth]

   
   A Silca pump from the mid 80's and a VeloWurks Prime that I was given a 
few years back. The new one pumps with such ease compared to the Silca :) 

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[RBW] Re: Recommend bag sized bike pump, please.

[Garth]

   Is there a reason why it must fit into a bag ? 

Topeak does make another mount for the Mini/Road Morph, part # Tpd-2C . 
This mount, unlike the one included, mounts under the bottle cage and the 
pump sits on the side. 

https://www.todson.com/products/wb-bracket-for-rd-morph-peak-dx-mt-rock-harp-mini-tpd

A 7" or under to fill your tires as wished for , I doubt that's gonna 
happen. You'd be better off using a CO2/pump combo if you need it that 
small. 

Myself I'd rather have a pump I like using and mount it on the side, rather 
than buying a compromised pump based on limited length that will be an 
exercise in futility when I really need it to work.   

Or, just don't get flats :)  No flats, no worries. 

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[RBW] Re: Recomendations For Cycling-Specific Vehicle

[Garth]

I like full sized regular cab standard 6' bed pickup trucks with a 
fiberglass shell over the bed, with a Bed Rug padded marine grade full carpet 
kit covering the inside bed and walls. I like pickups because they are roomy 
inside, like how cars once were. 

  If I were get something new today, it may be either another pickup or full 
size van but in lower tier trim or commercial version. Possibly a small van 
intended for commercial use  as in not a passenger version that comes with 
extra unneeded seats and techno-illogical "driver aids" and a bunch of other 
pacifiers. Just a damm basic vehicle ! 

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[RBW] Re: cliffhanger rims and canti brakes

[Garth]

   No canti has ever seen a rim or frame or rider it did not like ;) 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Garth]

In other words . 

*shiitake  happens !  *Life rolls on and rolls on Well !  



In regards to such rims , I suspect any bike shop that has a supplier 
catalog either in paper or web could look up such a re-quest for specific 
width 27.5 rims, but it would help if you had certain specific models in 
mind as I am unaware if the catalogs list specs beyond the essentials of 
identification . 

Or, contact mfr. distributors listed on their website(if listed) , as 
that's who the mfr. would direct you if you contacted them directly. 




BTW, I did find ebikes.ca that had 650B size in stock, but shipping to usa 
is insanity. If you live in Canada you're set though !
http://www.ebikes.ca/shop/electric-bicycle-parts/rims/rim275-dm24.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Garth]

Lighten up Igor . I get it ... you asked for 27.5 rims and I gave you a 
link for 700c/26 , and now you are asking did anyone read your quest-I-on . 

I know  "people just don't listen ... people can't read . people 
are so blah blah blah infinitum ". "I'm so offended "   and a million and 
one "other" ways of crying "foul" . 

Of such thoughts anymore, no matter who says/thinks it , even I : * hmmm 
  * *so  what *? 

Reminds me of the song "poor poor pitiful me" . I crack up every time I 
hear it !Ahahahahaahahahaahah ! 





On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
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> Did anyone read anything I wrote?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Garth]

Via the g00gle search for " Alex DM24 rim 700c "  :)

https://lunacycle.com/alex-ebike-rim-dm24/

On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 4:22:19 PM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> Well for one, the question posed earlier was where does one find wide, 
> rim-braked rims.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Does this count as "just ride"? The bike is long wheelbase

[Garth]

Just riding is just riding it is that it is.  

Such is True Beauty. 

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[RBW] Re: New "Hill" Bike is Posted

[Garth]

 I get that !   We are not limited to or by any of these production 
models. If it appeals, great ! If not , so what !   The more I see models 
that have no appeal, or are not exactly what I'd love to ride,  the more I 
appreciate what I DO ride right now ... and THAT I ride at all the 
effin' Joy of just riding along  the we ! . which is 
the whole point of any of this in the first place !   

  

  

 
On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 9:35:54 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
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> I really like my Roadeo and loved my Ram. I appreciate Grant's vision. 
> But, I have ZERO interest in his new models. He lost my interest.
>
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: sweepy silver 31.8 handlebar

[Garth]

Jeremy,  According to Merry Sales the Albatross bar comes in 3 widths, the 
31.8 being 56cm wide, what the original Cr-mo version was.  When I bought a 
HT Al Alba the first thing I noticed compared to my 56cm steel bars was the 
curve was a smaller radius and I didn't like it one bit. It also wasn't 
55cm as promoted.  The Merry Sales page explains it.  The curve of the 56 
steel to me is perfect and it appears the 31.8 version uses that shape. 
I've not seen a 55 steel to know if it has the same curve and the 56 
versions. No website that sells the B352 mentions all these subtle yet not 
insignificant variations of width and curve. I can see why some people do 
not like the HT Al versions, they ruined the perfect curve ! 

https://merrysaleswholesale.mysapanywhere.com/products/212352357531680-nitto-hbar-b352-albatross


The Jones bars are 31.8 for Drw .  More room for the hands and wider, 45 
degree sweep.





On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 12:32:42 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> The Albatross comes in a 31.8mm HT aluminum version: 
>
> https://store.somafab.com/nib3al31bar.html
>
> I had one for a short while but never mounted it up. The bend is slightly 
> different than the other ones, the grip area is slightly more angled. Here 
> it is superimposed on a 25.4 CrMo one, with a cameo by my feet:  
>
> https://flic.kr/p/ySmLng
>  
> On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 6:46:36 AM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>>
>> Anyone have a recommendation for a 31.8 bar that is similar in shape and 
>> length to the map/ahearne bar? Or even something like an albatross would 
>> work. Has to be silver. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar-end brake levers on Albastache?

[Garth]

   I can't tell exactly the reach/height of your stem as shown, but a stem with 
more rise, like a Dirt Drop will certainly offer more height so you could keep 
the bar.  

   The VO Porteur offers 40mm more rise, if that is indeed enough, I assume you 
are aware that they come in 22.2 or 23.8 ?  With a 23.8 the bar end levers you 
have will fit perfectly. 

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[RBW] Re: ISO: The right rear rack

[Garth]

  It appears Alex's Cycle in Japan has them in stock. It says $112 converted 
and shipping to my area in Ohio, for example, about $22. Of course, they have 
lots of other cool stuff to add to that order ! 

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Re: [RBW] Off or on-topic? Cannabis oil

[Garth]

Sorry, this isn't GP's  "mini-me" group !   Ahahahahahaa.   

As stated at the top  this group isn't affiliated with RBW.  It's not 
an extension or outlet for them.  I can see why some people get the 
impression of Rivendell being "cultish". 

Patrick has made a number of OT postings so what ?!  They are all done 
respectfully and earnestly .  I've never met Patrick, but if I ran into him 
without knowing him, or any "stranger" that asks me a question I always 
answer in the way the answer comes in the moment.  If I didn't have an 
answer, I wouldn't have been asked the question in the first place. Life 
has a wonderful of managing Itself perfectly without the "rules and 
regulations of the fool". 

If we want to get into a pissing match of what belongs and does not here 
. clarity won't happen  in fact it will only muddy the waters that 
were perfectly clear all on their own.  

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[RBW] Re: Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[Garth]

Laing,  At the top-right(see 3 flags) of the page you can set the 
currency and country of shipping. 



On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 4:10:13 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>
> The site is in England, have you changed the prices from pounds to dollars?
>
> Laing
> Cocoa, FL
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

[Garth]

>
>   


   For bars take look at either a Jones bar or the Surly Open bar. The 
black only Surly has 53 degree sweep(25.4 stem), the silver/black 
Jones(31.8 stem) 45 degrees. Surly is 66cm wide and the Jones is  66 or 71.

   I suspect much of not liking friction shifting has to do with the 
oddities of those particular/peculiar SunRace thumbies.  

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[RBW] Re: Tektro TRP RRL vs. Shimano Tiagra type BRL400 brake levers?

[Garth]

 

Buy the TRP , they certainly can't be worse than the Shimano you have 
!  The larger bodied levers are a whole lot roomier than the "old" style, 
which I always found too small. 

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[RBW] Re: Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[Garth]

  They also sell some Nitto items, some that may be hard to find elsewhere. 
Many other items too that are hard to find, some are closeouts etc. Very 
eclectic !

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[RBW] Re: Funny Ad Copy About Riv Tires

[Garth]

   I saw the various Jack Browns and Fatty rumpkins mentioned @ the two 
sister websites .
I've ordered stuff from them before, uneventfully perfect .  The prices 
fluctuate often, and shipping fluctuates wildly !  If it's really high one 
day/week , check back later, it's guaranteed to change a lot ! 

https://www.planetx.co.uk/news/products/q/date/2018/06/22/jack-brown-mile-muncher
https://www.on-one.co.uk/s?q=jack+brown
https://www.planetx.co.uk/s?q=jack+brown

   

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[RBW] Re: Would it be fun to have an all SILVER group?

[Garth]

   Are you saying that PW still offers the freewheel "Touring" hubs in the 
various OLD and speeds ? 
I had wondered about this but had not contacted PW about it. When Riv said 
the "Rivvy" hubs were discontinued I assumed it meant *only the speciality 
"Rivvy" version, *not the regular PW Touring FW hubs.  


On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 7:26:57 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>
> They are not exactly the same but Phil Wood still offer the same hubs but 
> without the cutouts.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bar-end brake levers on Albastache?

[Garth]

Bar end brake levers are great for bars such as both Albas and the swept 
back(non drop) ones .  Easily activated with just a pinkie and/or the next 
finger. I find it more easily accessed too , I can't put it into words 
it'll just be apparent as you use them.   

Kai, I hear that often by those that have never used them.  I've gone 
through some brush and frankly I can't see it happening even if I tried. If 
you are running THAT close into really knarly stuff, you could be brought 
down regardless of the lever, not necessarily the lever.  If we wanna play 
the "anythings possible angle", gotta play it all the way for every "part" 
including the rider ! 

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[RBW] Re: Would it be fun to have an all SILVER group?

[Garth]

  Oh heck, I don't mean to diminish the idea of such a group Lum .  It would be 
great if every part, no matter what it was, was offered in the  colors you 
wanted without having to compromise at all in any way. I find myself saying 
that as if it's not possible, but says who and who made them any sort of 
authority on "everything" ?  The so called local-authorities, only speak to 
"save their own ass", to keep up the facade of knowing anything more than what 
they see and hear locally. Like a computer can only tell you what it was 
programmed to put out, whether it's universally true or not it could never know 
for again, it's "knowing" is limited to what it's told to "know".  

So just what is possible, what already exists beyond one's own belittling 
beliefs of limitation ? No man knows or will know, that's for sure. Infinity is 
Infinite, afterall and that is undeniable 😀

Life Rocks !

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[RBW] Re: Would it be fun to have an all SILVER group?

[Garth]

Fwiw , As noted by Rich @riv the hubs are no longer offered. The only thing 
I see a possibility of is maybe a rim for the upcoming mtn. bikey.  The 
parts they do offer seem more out of necessity , even the crank as it is 
offered in lengths unavailable from Sugino, and XD isn't that great of a 
crank at all frankly. 

As for the rest I don't see it happening for 2 reasons: 1. 
Cost(manufacturing, R&D, lots of parts to $tock, etc.)  and 2. Already 
existing alternatives. 


I'm at the place in my life where I really don't care if all parts are all 
this or that  just parts that work/fit well.  I spend about 0 hours 
contemplating "the looks" of bikes ... no knock on anyone that does. 

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[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

[Garth]

<http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/d/l800/pict/142539725249_1.jpg>
Max, Apparently my reply may have been misread as I pointed to the *CR710* *for 
narrow spacing(they are designed for cross bikes with 33mm+/- tires)*, not 
the 720.   The 710 costs about $20-25 each. 


https://www.tektro.com/products.php?p=46


On Wednesday, August 29, 2018 at 9:07:32 AM UTC-4, Max S wrote:
>
> Garth, 
>
> I agree that the 720 is a good brake and a good value. In fact I have it 
> installed on one bike, but had to move all of the spacers / washers to the 
> outboard side of the pad holder bolt, because the canti posts are closer to 
> each other than currently standard. It actually works fine, but just — at 
> the limit of the adjustment range for the brake. Just wondering if there is 
> a simple and inexpensive option that works better (besides the old XT 
> cantis). 
>
> While we are on this tangent of narrow post spacing, are there V or mini-V 
> style brakes that work better than others in this instance?.. 
>
> - Max “narrow (post) minded for the moment” in A2

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[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

[Garth]

   Max,  Any cantilever intended for a cyclocross frame is by nature for 
narrow spacing.  

You might try a Tektro CR 710 for example. These are easy on the pocketbook 
AND work well. I replace all Tektro pads with Kool Stop blacks or salmons 
even before installing. I have this brake on my Bomba front and it's 
fantastic. Very firm, immediate response and strong braking, no squishies.  
It would also work on my canti road bike with narrow spacing, which I 
currently use SunTour XC Pro and those are outstanding !  

The CR710 seems to get overlooked for whatever reason compared to the 720, 
which on the Bomba was decidedly "just okay".  


On Tuesday, August 28, 2018 at 10:20:16 PM UTC-4, Max S wrote:
>
> What’s the optimum post spacing (on fork and stays) for these?.. 
>
> - Max “they don’t make them for narrow posts anymore” in A2 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

[Garth]

 Except ... nothing can't be told . 

woosh  


ahahahahahaahah !   




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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

[Garth]

Joe, if you wanna get into a pissing match . no matter how big of a 
boat you could build you're already sunk. Go fish. 

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[RBW] Re: Bar end shifters on Boscos?

[Garth]

I'd have to see your bars to know what you're talking about as to your 
current setup and what's "in the way".  If it is the setup that riv seems 
to promote, with the shifters literally "at hand", then yea . not my 
cup 'o tea but whatever floats the boat.  What about putting the shifters 
more forward of the brake levers ?  Or, if the bars are steel, bar end 
brake levers and putting some top mounted "regular" thumb shifters on the 
top of the bar where you like ?


As for the bar end shifters, only you'd know if that'd work well as only 
you are you the rider, and thus no one can tell you what that's like, since 
only you are you  ;-)  !!!


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[RBW] Re: nail polish suggestions

[Garth]

I do clear also but for colors try a (if you have one) hobby/model/craft 
shop that sells Testors Enamel paint in the little 1/4 oz. jars . My frame 
builder suggested them if I needed a color and even suggested which ones to 
mix.  I used Testors as a kid too, for the diy model kits and rockets we 
had fun with . 

45 colors ! 

https://www.testors.com/product-catalog/testors-brands/testors/enamel-paint/enamel-paints

Other retailers 
https://www.testors.com/pages/help-and-support/store-locator

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[RBW] Re: QB Seatpost Diameter

[Garth]

   All the QB I have seen online with specs list 27.2, which goes along with 
the many S84 lugged seatposts on many. I'm pretty sure that is only 27.2. 

  Are you using a very accurate caliper ? 

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