Re: [RBW] Re: Grip King Ulti-mod!

[Jon Grant]

Charlie mused:

I like the mod but I might do a version with a radius instead of a
straight line for the added outside section. Plus I would use a
triangle file and put some notches in it. 

---

. . . Which made me think about just using a quill cage from an old pedal.
Undo the GripKing ends, slide the old cage in, re-bolt the GK ends, right?
Then my mind, unfettered by reason, went to this: Why not start with a
conventional quill pedal and add GK-like pieces fore and aft? Make your own
modified GK right in your own home! Zowie!

Jon "Wandering About the Grounds" Grant, in moonlit
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Jon Grant]

Re: winter projects, Frankwurst wrote:

Build my Goodrich when it arrives. Maybe build my Kogswell P/R. Maybe
reconfigure my Riv. Maybe do an overhaul on my 76 Schwinn Paramount. Maybe
sell a bike or two so I can buy something else I don't need but seem to
think I should  have.

Bill of Louisville then asked:

Now, that's the spirit! May I use you as a reference to my wife?

---

As in, "See, Honey? It could be worse." Oh, HELL yeah. I throw you guys
under the bus all the time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset, cranks, derailleurs

[Jon Grant]

Hey,

What size are those Big Apples. please?

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From: Beardpapa 
Reply-To: 
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:51:05 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: Frames, shifters, bars, stems, tires, wheelset,
cranks, derailleurs

Update list with update prices as well.

1.  Cranks:  Shimano 600 170mm.  53x39 (used but good condition) - $30
shipped
2.  Derailleur set:  Shimano 600 short cage rear + double front  (used
but good condition)  - $40 shipped
3.  Brakes:  Campagnolo medium reach with new Koolstop pads (can fit
35mm tires!) - $50 shipped (sold)
6.  Bars:   Nitto Bullmoose - steel (Riv Prototypes. like new mounted
once) - $90 shipped
7.  Brakes:  Silver Long Reach (Brand New!) $70  shipped
8.  Stem:  Nitto Lugged  Non-threaded stem 80mm 25.4 (like new) $50
shipped
9.  Stem:  Nitto Technomic 110mm 25.4 (used but good condition) $30
shipped
10.  Tires:  Schwalbe Big Apples (ridden once, so almost new) - $60
shipped
11.  Frame, Fork Headset:  MB-Zip frame in used but good condition.
Comes with XT headset. - $150 + shipping
12.  Wheels:  Mavic hub laced to Campagnolo rims with Kore Skewers.
(used but good condition, came off MB-zip)  $100 + shipping
13.  Seatpost:  Campagnolo fluted 27.2 - $30 shipped (sold)
14.  Derailleur:  long cage Suntour Superbe - $30 shipped (sold)
15.  Shifters:  Suntour Barend shipfters - $45 shipped
16.  Shifters:  Silver Barend shifters (barely used)- $70 shipped
17.  Complete Bike:  1990 Cannondale ST 1000 touring complete 53cm.
(frame, fork, headset, rear rack, fenders, original suntour
groupset).  Email me for more info and pricing
18.  Bars:  Jitensha (in used condition) - $25 shipped (sold)
19.  Derailleur set:  Suntour XC long cage rear + triple front (used
condition) - $40 (Sold)

Photos can be found here:  http://picasaweb.google.com/gtsang/ForSale#

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Re: [RBW] Re: Filed down Sugino XD2

[Jon Grant]

+1 on just installing and riding. I think it's highly unlikely that it will
fail catastrophically. If it fails prematurely at the taper it'll creak a
lot before it goes. I'd be peeved at the seller, then I'd get over it and
I'd ride it.

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Re: [RBW] Re: metallic green 59 AHH frame on RBW site now

[Jon Grant]

RoadieRyan mused:

I agree its a nice frame but I am confused by the word "Special" when
that Frame is the same price as a regular AHH.  I realize its a custom
paint job but since it was "orphaned" and is in the specials section I
would expect it to be priced lower than a normal AHH.  Perhaps I have
misinterpreted the word Special...?

---

Well, you get custom paint for for free with no wait. If the frame is your
size and you were gonna buy an AHH anyway but really, really wished it was
not blue, what a bargain, huh?

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Re: [RBW] Noodle vs Bullmoose?

[Jon Grant]

From: Montclair BobbyB asked:

Is this a genetic thing?  You either gravitate to drops or you don't? Or am
I just not giving the drops a fair shake here?  I don't want to immediately
rush to judgment and get rid of the Noodles, but it feels like I'm
completely sold on the Bullmoose.

---

For me, it depends on today's ride, on kind of a sliding scale. If the route
is well-paved, I ride a B.17, narrowish (44-cm) drops, and skinny (28 mm)
tires. If it's going to be mostly pavement with the possiblity of occasional
(<50%) gravel or dirt, I ride the B.17, 48-cm Noodle bars, and Hetres. If we
plan mostly dirt with as little pavement as possible, I ride the Champ
Flyer, upright (not straight!) bars, and knobby tires.

But if the Bullmoose fits your every use, why even give it another thought?
OTOH, if they're easily swappable, hang onto the Noodles, and use them as
the occasion moves you. Do what makes you happy, I say.

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[RBW] Kid Bikes

[Jon Grant]

Oh, me too also. I love the IslaBikes website, and it all makes so much
sense ‹ quality bikes right-sized and equipped for children, not made in
China (matters to me, might not matter to you, don¹t wanna get in a big
thing about it, please). But shipping from the UK would nearly double the
cost of the bikes, which puts it out of range for us, especially considering
we have to buy two every time.

My guess is that the regulatory hurdles of NA distribution of products for
children are too daunting.

I wonder what would happen if we developed a sort of temporary co-op of
sorts to ship us a crate of those puppies? How many of each model would we
have to buy at one time to start saving real money on shipping? Or somesuch.

Rivendell content: I don¹t remember seeing such musing about Riv kids¹
bikes, but it¹s delicious to contemplate.

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From: cyclotourist 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2010 15:21:28 -0800
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Folding bike = kids bike?

I would love to see that.  But it's almost a dedicated business.  Islabikes
in the UK   has the best line of kid bikes that I
know of.  I s wish they had a NA distributer...

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Philip Williamson
 wrote:
> I realized that this had drifted off Riv subject, but was reminded
> that Grant had proposed (several years and Readers ago) the
> possibility of building a run of kids' bikes, with a buyback program
> when you kid out grew them.
> 
> Has there been a breath of that since then? Am I the only one who
> remembers this?
> 
>  Philip
> 
>  Philip Williamson
> www.biketinker.com  

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bullmoose bars, Canti Brakes, Levers, Stems, Cassette, Drop Bolts, Stronglight and more...

[Jon Grant]

All, sorry to use the list for a private message, but:

Will, I replied directly to you 15 minutes after you posted, re: the two
Shimano BBs and the Sugino chainguard. Got no response. Did you receive?

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] San Diego Bike Rental

[Jon Grant]

You should get in touch with Riv-owner Joe Bartoe at Synaptic Cycles Bicycle
Rentals 

Disclosure: I designed his logo.

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From: Dan Abelson 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 20:58:17 -0600
To: 
Subject: [RBW] San Diego Bike Rental

I will be in the San Diego area (Encinitas) over the holidays.  Does
anyone know of a good place to rent a bike -- bonus for Rivish- Bobish
bike?  I am also open to suggestions for good riding in the area.  I
have seen lots of great ride pics from those of you in San Diego.

Thanks

Dan Abelson
St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] WAS: Roadeo vs AHH. NOW: Coveting

[Jon Grant]

i photographed my Roadeo this morning with its adjusted fit and the JB
Greens and my old Brooks Finesse saddle.
if you want to see it, it's here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848...@n03/

Kps

---

KPS,

The Roadeo, the Super Tourer, the Competition, all my size, and perfectly
kitted. You're killin' me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WAS: Roadeo vs AHH. NOW: Coveting

[Jon Grant]

Wow, KPS, way to twist the knife! But seriously, I¹d love to see photos of
your other bikes sometime. I¹m glad mostly to hear that you ride them.
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From: kps 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 08:00:01 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: WAS: Roadeo vs AHH. NOW: Coveting

jon,

thank you so much for liking my bikes!  the Super Tourer on my Flickr
page is actually a 23-1/2" (59.69cm), so were it not
for the fact the TT length is STILL the same as on my Competition (22"
or 55.88cm), it would probably be too big for me.

i don't have a photograph of it, but i also have a 1974 Super Tourer
that is a 57 (22-1/2").  it's not as elegantly
kitted as the 59, but it's a terrific commuter.  i bought it from the
gentleman who bought it NEW in 1974.  he still has the other ST he
purchased
from Raleigh after having gone to Worksop to SEE the prototypes of the
Super Tourer.  on this bike i have, he replaced the 27x1.25" tires
with 700c by 38s on Shimano XT and LX hubs. The Huret derailleurs are
still there, though, and they're smooth as butter.
i will try to add a set of photos of this bike soon.  What i love
about my Raleighs is
the 531 tubing (frame and fork) and the 22" top tube on all three.
the Competition is 74/74 (angles) and the Supers are 73/73. They are
different
bikes than my Roadeo, but i love them equally.

kps

>KPS,
>
> The Roadeo, the Super Tourer, the Competition, all my size, and perfectly
> kitted. You're killin' me.
>
> --
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> Austin, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Wheel Lights Pondering

[Jon Grant]

+1 on the ankle strap. I used to wear a Rivendell one on my left ankle when
commuting, its long tab sticking out further left. Many drivers complimented
me on my very visible ankle strap, occasionally going so far as to ask where
they could get one. I never got a comment on my tail lights, but that ankle
strap got their attention.

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From: Eric Norris 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 10:35:31 -0800
To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Wheel Lights Pondering

Lee Mitchell, a legendary sag driver who has logged countless hours behind
cyclists of all kinds during the day and night, consistently recommends
reflective ankle bands as the single most effective means of being visible.
I trust that advice and always use them (in combination with a very bright
blinkie).

‹Eric N

On Dec 12, 2010, at 7:55 AM, JimD  wrote:

> On my commute for dark times of the year I want to be REAL visible.
> 
> My take is that making oneself visible among many car lights, various street
> lights, and 
> commercial signage, one's bike can't be over lit.
> 
> I have 2 bright front LED lights, a Dinotte rear light and accompany the
> Dinotte with two planet bike blinkys.
> I'm using the Riv wheel reflectors, Riv ankle reflectors, and a reflective
> vest. I have an eos led on my helmet
> (mainly for getting the attention of cars at intersections). I'm going for the
> 'It Came From OuterSpace' look
> and it seems to work.
> 
> Riding home on Friday I met a bicycler with Niteiz Spokelits
>   on his front
> wheel.
> When he was moving his bike  was quite visible from the side.
> Looking on the Google I see that these use CR2016 batteries so that isn't such
> a good thing.
> As lights go they aren't too dear ~ USD $ 8.
> 
> Anyone using Spokelits?
> 
> I'm also intrigued by Monkey Lights 
> but my lighting compulsion isn't so strong (yet) that I'm going to
> spend ~ USD $ 60. They do look like fun but a bit of a kludge.
> 
> Light em up,
> JimD
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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

[Jon Grant]

>> Leslie mused:

>> Roadeo, Rambouillet, A Homer Hilsen, Sam Hillborne, Atlantis, Bombadil,
Hunqapillar

> Kelly responded thoughtfully:

> I do agree but would have it Hunqapillar then Bombadil

---

Would anyone think to put the Rambouillet first, onnacounta its more limited
tire capacity, making the Roadeo more capable over rougher terrain?

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[RBW] Marque-specific Rides

[Jon Grant]

Do owners of other marques do this? I know car guys do, but do other bike
folk besides Rivendell bicyclers?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

[Jon Grant]

Make it at least four for the Element. It¹s not sporty in the least. We
bought it because it¹s light for its size, its rugged interior can be
configured variously, and because it can haul bicycles standing up with
wheels on ‹ at least as tall as my 60.5 cm Rivendell custom. We can put
three people and three bikes inside the car if we remove a back seat. It has
only four seats though, so now that we have twins, the bikes ride on a
hitch-mounted rack out back. Ironic, huh?

Also, please note that Honda has announced the end of production for this
model, and probably won¹t support it as long as I plan to keep it ‹ which is
approximately for the rest of my life. Ours has been very reliable ‹ no
repairs outside normal maintenance for 50k miles now.

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From: robert zeidler 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:55:34 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle
forhauling your bike?

Well, Jim, that was the initial concern.  I have a pick-up that is my
company work truck and have a bed rack in there.  So far so good.  But
it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you
stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining.  These are pretty
nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged
quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined.  As I'm
ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking
for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity
of this group to relay their experiences.

So far that's 3 for the Element.  It ain't the sportiest thing out
there to be sure but it does make sense.

RGZ

On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips 
wrote:
> Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is
> how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a
> downside to that?
>
> best,
>
> JimP
>
>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best
>> vehicle forhauling your bike?
>> From: t...@cox.net
>> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500
>> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>>
>> I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear
>> carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower
>> the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to
>> fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more
>> practical (this is with both seats removed).
>> As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from
>> Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a
>> trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the
>> back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all
>> those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates.
>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote:
>>
>> > I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get
>> > my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram
>> > vertically inside "The Toaster."
>> >
>> > I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear
>> > seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is
>> > easy to clean up.
>> >
>> > I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good
>> > enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile.
>> >
>> > Angus
>> >
>> > On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >> This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front
>> >> seat comfort too.
>> >> Thanks for your insight (no pun).
>> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: j4gitr 
>> >>
>> >> Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24
>> >> To: RBW Owners Bunch
>> >> Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle
>> >> for
>> >> hauling your bike?
>> >>
>> >> I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle
>> >> inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and
>> >> the Katy trail with my 6'4" 280# cousin next to me in the front seat.
>> >> It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever
>> >> owned. I'm 6'6" 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been
>> >> driving it for 4 years now.
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>> >>> Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would
>> >>> like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain,
>> >>> theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/
>> >>> a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR,
>> >>> slide the wheel in next to it
>> >>
>> >>> Anyway, what is everybody else doing?
>> >>
>> >>> RGZ
>> >>
>> >> --

[RBW] FS: Ibex Arm Warmers, Medium

[Jon Grant]

Bought from Rivendell, worn once, washed once with Kookaburra. Too small for
me; my biceps measure approximately 14² diameter, and these were inhibiting
circulation. $35.00 shipped within CONUS.

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[RBW] WAS: Vintage Grant Bicycle NOW: OT Umbrage

[Jon Grant]

 wrote:
(by the way, the Vice President is Al "I invented the internet" Gore)
---
Seth Vidal answered:
sorry, can't let it go. http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp
---
Montclair BobbyB responded:
Of course he didn't, but it's way too funny to abandon... sorry...

---

Wow, Bobby. That¹s pretty crude. So you admit it¹s a lie, but justify the
perpetuation of a smear because ³it¹s way too funny?² And if it were about
you? If someone continued to tell a damaging lie about you because it was
³way too funny² you¹d be okay with that?

I won¹t post again on the thread you took off-topic.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one?

[Jon Grant]

Farm 200 miles away, already enough stuff to carry on frequent trips? No
excuses -- I¹d say that makes a good argument for another bike at the farm.
If the budget allowed another Rivendell, I¹d be likely to choose a
Hunqapillar or a Bombadil, considering the more rural nature of the
location. Regardless of make or model, I¹d be less inclined to get something
too similar to what I already have, unless the two places had nearly
identical terrain and riding conditions.

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From: JimP 
Reply-To: 
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:41:22 -0500
To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rivendell... which one?

Hard to explain but we take 5 dogs and luggage including astronomy gear. I
just prefer to have a second bike and not carry one back and forth. Perhaps
just an excuse.

JimP

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Re: [RBW] Re: Computers? No computers?

[Jon Grant]

From: Minh asserted:
I know it's counter to the RBW spirit, but i do carry a GPS watch. 

---

Minh, I don't think it is entirely in line with the RBW spirit, at least as
I understand it. If the GPS/HRM satisfies some need or want of yours and
enhances your bicycle time in some way, then it's right for you, which I
think is a major tenet of the spirit.

Personally, I have a computer in self defense, as my wife always wants to
know the details of my ride, including the numbers. I would otherwise not
care so much one way or the other.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Computers? No computers?

[Jon Grant]

OOPS. I meant ³I DO think it¹s entirely in line Š²
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From: Jon Grant 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:58:13 -0600
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Computers? No computers?

From: Minh asserted:
I know it's counter to the RBW spirit, but i do carry a GPS watch. 

---

Minh, I don't think it is entirely in line with the RBW spirit, at least as
I understand it. If the GPS/HRM satisfies some need or want of yours and
enhances your bicycle time in some way, then it's right for you, which I
think is a major tenet of the spirit.

Personally, I have a computer in self defense, as my wife always wants to
know the details of my ride, including the numbers. I would otherwise not
care so much one way or the other.

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[RBW] WAS: Paul Jono Hub NOW: Amazing Axle Anecdotes

[Jon Grant]

Eric Platt wrote:

Back in the 1980's (before the big layoff from cycling) used to
regularly bend and/or break rear freewheel hub axles.  Usually low
level Shimano or Suntour.  Including Suntour XC.  Back then my weight
was about 190.  My low tech solution - replace the cones and axles
with nutted solid axles.  Cro-mo.  The mild steel ones would bend
also.

This was on early mountain bikes and the 130mm hub spacing seemed to
be the culprit.

Have not had a problem with a cassette hub.  Have also not had a
problem with my Phil FW hub on my Sam Hillborne.  Even when first
getting back on the bike, didn't have a problem with cassette hubs
although my weight at that time was around 350 pounds.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

---

I've been riding, off and on, for almost 40 years -- I'd guess at least
50,000 miles, probably >95% on pavement. I've weighed between 180 and 260
pounds most of that time. Lightest bike+rider was probably 170 lbs. Heaviest
single (boxbike, trailer, rider, two toddlers, Costco shopping load) runs
500 lbs. I've used fixed gears, single speeds, 3- and 8-speed
internal-geared hubs, and 5-, 6-, and 7-speed freewheels. I've owned hubs of
several levels by Shimano, Sanshin, Normandy, SunTour, Sovos, Specialized,
Campagnolo, Mavic, Phil Wood, Atom, Schmidt -- and probably others I've
forgotten.

I've never broken an axle. Or a crank arm. Or any other component bigger
than a spoke, except in a collision.

Jon Grant, drawing no conclusions in
Austin, Texas


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[RBW] WAS: Bombacampatourarangadil NOW: Expressing Opinions

[Jon Grant]

Excited about my latest toy/bike/clothes/haircut/whatever, I'd go show off
to my godmother, who sometimes would simply ask, "Well, do _you_ like it?"
When I responded in the affirmative, she'd smile, pat my forearm, and say
very sincerely, "Then that's all that matters, Dear."
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---

> From: William 

> Is "blaze your own trail" nice-man-speak for "yuck!" ?

> hee hee.  I realize it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I'm into it.

>> On Feb 20, 7:40 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
>> Bill, you certainly like to blaze your own trail color wise. Looks
>> like a sturdy rig for some touring for sure.

>> I picked up a pair of those SRAM levers too and the Bordeaux Gold

>> Hudz  as well.  They seem to have a very nice feel to me size wise.

>> ~Mike

>>> On Feb 20, 4:26 pm, William  wrote:

>>> I'd been planning this drop bar cockpit for the Bombadil for a while.
>>> Jay got the stem painted for me to match.  It's not totally perfect,
>>> just a hair on the red side, but plenty good.  It's my first time to
>>> use the SRAM levers as well.  Hopefully I'll get it out for a couple
>>> hours tomorrow.  There's several shots up on my flickr

>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/5463436986/

>>> For the record, as pictured, with racks and fenders, it's less than
>>> 30lbs.  That's Newbaums burgundy with two coats of amber.  I was
>>> thinking Virginia Tech colors.  I am pleased with how it turned out.




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Re: [RBW] Re: Thoughts and experiences with 48cm Noodles?

[Jon Grant]

On Feb 23, 7:08 am, Mike  wrote:
>> Thanks for all the input folks. I think I'm gonna definitely order up
>> a pair of 48s and put them on whatever it is I end up building for a
>> camping/touring bike.

---

William answered anyway:
> I'm 5'10", 170lbs.  Straight up medium.  I ride 46 noodles on my
> touring/trail bikes and 44s on my brevet bike and go-fast.  It's odd
> to me that I'm riding almost the widest bars out there, since
> shoulders come MUCH wider than mine.  Anecdotally I'd say for
> everybody that tried a wider drop handlebar, very very few of them
> ever said "that was too wide".

---

So I'll pile on:
I'm 5'-8", 230 lbs, and "built stout," as we say back home in Oklahoma. I
like 52cm Nitto Dirt Drops (vintage!) on our tandem, but they were too wide
for me on a single. I ride 48cm Noodles on both my regular drop-barred
bikes, and they feel most natural to me. My wife uses 46cm Noodles -- after
rejecting 48s as too wide -- and I find those acceptable. For me, even 44cm
drops feel a bit snug; anything narrower feels downright unpleasant, even on
a right-sized bike.

I like me some wide bars, mm-hm. But 52 cm? That's crazy talk!

-- Jon "Papa" Grant, who CANNOT WAIT for NAHBS this weekend, in
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[RBW] ISO Stephen who wanted Riv Logos

[Jon Grant]

Sorry to use the list for this, but I¹d like to hear from Stephen who asked
for Rivendell logo files last week. I¹ve emailed him directly a couple of
times with no response.

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[RBW] WAS: AHH as a road bike NOW: Judgment

[Jon Grant]

David Faller wrote:
I second the motion.  Most "serious" riders (racers) that I encounter have a
sole focus.  They know nothing about their bike, they don't use it for
anything other than sporting equipment.  The bike doesn't fit right, is
ill-maintained, etc. but the rider has on the cutting edge kit.  Looks the
part, but couldn't tell you about one component on the bike.  Why is that
more serious than what I do?

---

What does it matter? I¹ve seen skinny kids on bright-colored, narrow-barred
fixies; poorly-dressed folks on cheap mountain bikes; commuters on all sorts
of bikes; fat, skinny, old, and young folks on bikes that cost thousands
more than my Riv custom. Each one is using a bicycle to accomplish his goal;
some of those goals are consistent with my own and others are not, but I can
presume only that all those riders are serious. As for maintenance, I¹ve
heard squeaky chains and rubbing brakes on bikes of every stripe.

I don¹t get why this is a worthwhile topic of discussion here. It sounds to
me uncomfortably like, ³If only those folks could experience the One True
Religion ‹ ours!²

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[RBW] Yet More Questions About Canvas Waxing

[Jon Grant]

So, am I supposed to do this to every new bag? I thought ³waxed canvas²
meant they were already treated. You mean I¹ve been riding with unprotected
canvas bags all these years?!

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[RBW] That custom for sale on the Riv site

[Jon Grant]

And, that 58.5 abandoned custom has popped back up, too.  Please someone buy
those before I have to...

-- Jim Edgar

---

About my size. I¹ll ask my wife if she thinks I need a new Riv custom.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes and others

[Jon Grant]

Are these available in the US?

http://www.exustar.com/product_detail.php?psn=34&level=2&t1s=11

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From: Patrick in VT 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 13:37:03 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Dromarti shoes

On Dec 3, 9:31 am, Mike  wrote:
> Nice, but expensive. Anyone seen or tried these?

these also look nice - i think i actually prefer the black compared to
the dromarti's.

http://www.swrvestore.com/servlet/Detail?no=106

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[RBW] Honjo Fender Install

[Jon Grant]

D-dang, y¹all. This is real hard.

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[RBW] WAS: AT 0154 NOW: Sugino AT spindle length

[Jon Grant]

Cycletex asked:

What spindle length are you looking for and are you going by the Sheldon
Brown suggestions for the AT?

---

I put a Sugino AT on an old Schwinn World Voyageur last summer. The longest
BB I could find was 122.5, and I had to dent the chainstay to clear the
granny ring. (A neighbor walked over and said, ³Wow. I¹ve seen you do a lot
of things to bikes, but I¹ve never seen you use a hammer. Bad day?²)

A 125 or maybe even a 127 would¹ve worked better, I think.

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Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.

[Jon Grant]

In my only actual bike/car collision, I was clearly at fault. I injured
myself and damaged my bike frame, and the car I hit sustained a dented
fender and hood, and a crushed windshield. My homeowners policy covered it
all, though I don¹t remember whether or not I paid a deductible, or how much
it might have been.

YM definitely MV.

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From: Clayton Scott 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:37:10 -0800
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] insurance for bikes.

What about in the case of a crash (assuming it is my fault). Is there any
insurance that would cover that?

Thanks,
Clayton Scott
SF CA

On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CycloFiend  wrote:
>> > on 12/15/09 10:11 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> >
>>> >> Does anyone know of an insurance company that offers insurance for
>>> >> bikes stolen when you're out in the world? Theoretically my
>>> >> homeowner's policy would cover it but I really don't want to test that
>>> >> and not know. So I'm curious - can anyone think of a company that
>>> >> explicitly offers bike-theft insurance?
>> >
>> > Renter's/homeowner's should cover it.  There may be limits on the policy
>> > payouts, and pay attention to an specific-item exclusions or limits. But,
>> if
>> > you have documented replacement values, it's hard for them to argue
>> > otherwise.
>> >
>> > A call to your agent (if you have one) or to the company might help.  I'd
>> > verbally give them a general list of items ("computers, jewelry, hi-fi,
>> > electronics, oh, and bicycles, a couple of musical instruments...") to
>> > confirm nothing is excluded or needs a specific additional coverage rider.
>> >
> 
> I specifically asked:
> 
> I go to a coffee shop. I ride my bike there. I lock my bike up
> outside. It gets nicked. What happens?
> 
> He said - $500 deductible and the rest is covered for replacement value.
> 
> thanks for the suggestion,
> -sv
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[RBW] Raison d'etre

[Jon Grant]

Steve Palincsar wrote:

Everything Grand Bois exists because "I" is interested.  I think it's about
as far as you can get from "market driven".

---

Now lemme see ‹ who else does that sound like?

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Re: [RBW] OT But Fun - How Riv Customers are Made

[Jon Grant]

Oh my. Ohmy. I was just thinking about the logistics of learning to make
bike frames so I could keep my kids in bikes throughout their lives. Seeing
this makes me so envious. What power. What intensity. What talent. Oh my. OT
or not, thank you for posting, Joel.

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From: JoelMatthews 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 08:03:09 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] OT But Fun - How Riv Customers are Made

Was on Spectrum looking for pictures of my bike.  None there, but did
find this:

http://www.spectrumpowderworks.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=101

What is not to love?  Lugs, double crown plate, King headset, can't
make out the front hub, but it looks like the real deal.

Kid is definitely going to have a thang for Rivs someday.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone dig 26 here?

[Jon Grant]

cyclotourist wrote:

A 26" wheeled Ram with two sets of wheels (light go fast/heavy trail use)
sounds like an awesome bike!  Rivendell has been so invested in 650B I
forget they have 26" bikes also.

---

I rode with an RBW listmember a couple of weeks ago, Sean O¹Bryan. He rode a
smaller-framed, 26²-wheeled Rambouillet that looked perfectly proportioned,
to my eye. He likes it pretty well, as I recall. Also, he had no problem
wielding it to wax my ass on every uphill. He and his randonneuring buddy
Jeff graciously waited for me at every crest, it seemed.

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Re: [RBW] Vittoria Randonneur

[Jon Grant]

Eric Norris asked re: Vittoria Randonneur:

Has anybody used these tires? How do they compare to Paselas?

---

I bought some slightly used several years ago to replace Paselas. I never
thought I could tell the difference between two tires until I did that, but
I found the VRs sluggish feeling. Don¹t know whether or not it affected my
actual commute time, but I hated the way they felt ‹ like riding on hot,
uncured asphalt ‹ dead feeling. I sold them to someone else and returned
happily to Paselas.

Jon ³One data point² Grant

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Re: [RBW] Riv Valve Stems Group on Flickr?!

[Jon Grant]

This. Is. HILARIOUS.
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From: cyclotourist 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:04:51 -0800
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Group on Flickr
> 
Just don't forget the most special-ist Rivendell group: 
http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell_valve_stems/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Group on Flickr

[Jon Grant]

OOH! OOH! Do pump pegs!

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From: rperks 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 14:15:42 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Group on Flickr

I was thinking of setting up one each for: Seat Post Binders, Stems,
Crank Bolts, Pedal Dust Caps. ;)


>
> > Just don't forget the most special-ist Rivendell group:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell_valve_stems/
>
> --
> Cheers,
> David
> Redlands, CA
>
> "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something
> wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym."  ~Bill Nye,
> scientist guy- Hide quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] New Riv Custom

[Jon Grant]

Holy cats! I never get tired of looking at those beautiful bicycles.

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From: Brad Gantt 
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 14:52:35 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] New Riv Custom

So, after 2 years and 4 months, my custom frame arrived at Riv
headquarters. Mark is building it up today (and was kind enough to
snap these pics) and soon it will be mine. Can't wait to give it a
spin!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/17053...@n02/sets/

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[RBW] Rivendell Frame Sizing

[Jon Grant]

Ron Farnsworth wrote:

I also was very reluctant to buy a frame 4cm bigger than anything else I had
been riding for the previous 20 years. Went from a 57 cm Merlin to a 61cm
Homer and will never look back. I'm now realizing how much a difference
comfort and versatility mean to my cycling future. It was a leap, and
admittedly a different style of riding, but one that I'm glad I made. My
original concern about standover height has long since faded. I don't buy
into everything Riv, but I'd recommend everyone take a closer look at what
they represent.

---

My experience is nearly identical. Convinced I needed a certain minimum
stand-over clearance, I refused to ride any frame larger than 56 cm. I
gradually came to understand that I might be more comfortable on a larger
frame. Still, when I ordered a Rivendell custom (and insisted on a
level-as-possible top tube, purely for aesthetic reasons), Grant called me
and said, ³Now don¹t freak out, but your seat tube is going to be 60.5
centimeters long.² I calmed down a little when he reminded me that part of
the increase is at the bottom of the tube so doesn¹t affect stand-over. I
fretted about that until the first ride. In less than five minutes the bike
felt like it was made for just me. When I have occasion to ride my 56-cm
Trek 760, it¹s light and quick, but I feel, well, pinched. Like I¹m wearing
really nice shoes that are a whole size too small.

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[RBW] saddle covers & bag contents -- all-in-one-thread!

[Jon Grant]

Gernot wrote:

I like the Aardvark, too, though one of the rivets on my Brooks Pro
that wasn't quite flush put a tiny hole in the cover in no time. So
hammer your rivet edges down before putting on a cover...

---

So that mini ball-peen I¹ve been schlepping in case of a hammer emergency
will finally prove its worth?

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[RBW] WAS: Berthouds/Hetre NOW: Honjo/Hetre

[Jon Grant]

"Allingham II, Thomas J" asked:

What about the VBQ-stocked 58mm Honjos (hammered or fluted)?

http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/Handlebars.html

They should fit great.

---

I have Hetres and BQ¹s Honjo 58s on my Blériot. They work well and look
good, but can¹t imagine how smaller fenders would fit ‹ though part of that
limitation may be that the frame wasn¹t designed with such fat tires in
mind.

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[RBW] WAS: TCO NOW: Tire Width Smack

[Jon Grant]

David, of Redlands, CA, wrote:

60's are for sissies!

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³hard, skinny, racing tires.²

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Re: [RBW] Re: Salsa Vaya aesthetics

[Jon Grant]

Mike wrote:

Be sure to checkout Salsa's new Vaya model. Kinda like version of a SH/
AHH, although a little more tour-worthy.

---

Meh. Another straight fork. I understand that it works as well and takes
less effort and $$ than a curved one, but it just looks so graceless to my
eye. Grant Petersen¹s designs have refined my notions about bike beauty --
especially forks. I have a 25-year-old Trek on the wall I used to think was
pretty; now all I see is the abrupt kink midway down the fork that passes
for a bend.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

[Jon Grant]

Makes buying American look more and more econopatriotic. Yup, just made that
up. Feel free to use it.

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From: Steve Palincsar 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:07:24 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks has some new awesomeness

On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 06:27 -0800, Mark wrote:
> Euro..basically 35-40 % more to = Dollars...295.00 euros=400.25
> dollars...Its only getting worse for the buck.

Even in view of the current currency fluctuations re: the Euro?



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Re: [RBW] 59cm AHH fit questions

[Jon Grant]

on 2/16/10 2:39 AM, Kentileguy at ken_y...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> Hi all, I have the opportunity to buy a used 59 cm Hilsen. I'm 5' 9
> 1/2" with a pbh of 85cm.According to Riv's fit chart a 59cm is the
> right size for me, but the  s.o. is 85 cm -not much clearance if any.
> Is anyone out there about my size riding a 59cm? If so how does it
> fit?
> Thanks, Ken

I¹m 5¹-8.5² and my PBH is 85 cm. My Riv custom is 60.5cm and my Blériot
(with 42mm Hetres) is a 59cm. I¹m really happy with both. I can¹t stand over
the custom barefooted, but luckily that situation hardly ever comes up.

If you were asking, I¹d say do it.

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Re: [RBW] A photo of my new Sam Hillborne

[Jon Grant]

Gosh, that¹s a pretty bike. Friendly looking. Like a Labrador puppy.

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From: PATRICK MOORE 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:34:56 -0700
To: rbw-owners-bunch , Internet-bob

Subject: [RBW] A photo of my new Sam Hillborne

http://www.rivbike.com/images/products/full//3086/shdropw_1.jpg

That is really it, folks: $1820 shipped with saddle, no pedals. Deo gratias!
I'll have to re-establish my relationship with derailleur gears again. Will
report on the ride and probably have a Brooks B17 to flog or trade next
week, God willing.

Thanks for all the input on IGHs and touring frames, but I think this is the
best mix of road and touring for my uses and the price and delivery schedule
were right.

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Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar

[Jon Grant]

I'm a Pillar
You're a Pillar
He's a Pillar
She's a Pillar
Wouldn't you want a Hunqapillar, too?

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN




Hun-qa-pillar, so misunderstood Š

jon

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[RBW] Austin CL Outing: Nitto M12 front rack $50.

[Jon Grant]

http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/1615514781.html

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Re: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem

[Jon Grant]

Not mine.

http://austin.craigslist.org/bik/1628839826.html

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From: nathan spindel 
Reply-To: 
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:28:34 -0800
To: , internet-bob

Subject: [RBW] WTB Nitto DirtDrop/Technomic Standard stem

I'm looking to buy a Nitto DirtDrop 10cm stem or a Nitto Technomic
Standard 8-9cm stem (26.0 clamp). Surprisingly, RBW has neither in
stock right now.

-nathan

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Re: [RBW] the Baggins theme song?

[Jon Grant]

Oh, I¹m sorry, but that¹s atrocious. What a thing to have to see just before
going to bed. 

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From: Aaron Thomas 
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Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 22:52:08 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] the Baggins theme song?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04

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[RBW] What's a good way to dispose of cf bike forks?

[Jon Grant]

Eric Norris wrote:

Here's my solution:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623579596200/

--Eric
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www.wheelsnorth.org

-

Brilliant! New Riv product! A great use for turned-in-for-replacement carbon
fork!

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[RBW] Re: What would you pay for a used custom?

[Jon Grant]

I think I kind of agree with the OP. ³Custom² doesn¹t mean much in the used
market. I think of most custom-made objects as curiosities ‹ priceless to
the person it was made for, and worthless to anyone else -- regardless of
who built it. Oh, sure, if you happened upon a for-sale bike that had been
built special for someone else, and you were close to the same physical
dimensions as the owner, and your intended use, riding style, and component
preferences were nearly identical, and it were your favorite color and in
as-new condition, then you might want to consider comparing it to a new
custom, and paying some substantial fraction of its new price.

But even if all of the above were true, will a 15-year-old Waterford-built
custom Rivendell serve you better than, say, a new Waterford-built Hilsen in
any practical way?

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Re: [RBW] Re: google maps

[Jon Grant]

I punched in my address and that of a friend with whom I ride frequently,
selected ³bicycling,² and it put me on two streets for four miles that I
avoid whenever possible ‹ and for which there are several safer routes. I
think it needs a little work. I did not, however, think to even look for a
problem link.

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From: Ethan 
Reply-To: 
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 06:12:00 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: google maps

it is a VERY new feature and in Beta. A) Did you select "bicycling" as
the mode of travel from the drop down menu? B) If you did and it gave
you that result you should click the report a problem link and report
the issue.

Personally... it gave me what looks to be a reasonable route from my
home in central Massachusetts to work in Boston (not a commute I plan
to make often at 32 miles but good to do once in a while).

Looking forward to it!

Ethan

On Mar 12, 8:43 am, GeorgeS  wrote:
> To try out the new feature, I asked for a bike route from New Orleans
> to Hammond which is on the North side of Lake Ponchartrain.  It routed
> me across the lake on the causeway which is an elevated, divided lane
> highway with a 65mph speed limit.  There is no bike lane and bicycles
> are not allowed on the causeway.  Hmmm.
> GeorgeS
>
> On Mar 11, 10:55 pm, Dave Minyard  wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Google maps has a new feature still in beta...it will give directions for
> > bicycling. I haven't messed with it much but seems like a good idea if it
> > works well. I did check it against a ride that I like to do and it was real
> > close to how I prefer. Check it out.
>
> > Dave Minyard
> > Santa Maria, Ca.

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Re: [RBW] Soggy Sunday Ride

[Jon Grant]

Steve Frederick wrote:

Š Since no one makes leather or stainless steel pontoons Š

---

Wouldn¹t Bobbish pontoons be crafted of birch bark?

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[RBW] What's the right saddle? Really?

[Jon Grant]

So, after three days of back and forth, here¹s what I¹m understanding:

1) With bars above saddle height and an upright position, a wider, flat
saddle ‹ perhaps even with springs -- is more likely to please most riders.

2) With bars more-or-less at saddle height, a medium-wide, flattish saddle
is more likely to please most riders. (This is me, and I ride a Brooks B.17
not because I think it¹s pretty ‹ which I do ‹ but because it don¹t make my
ass hurt.)

3) With bars below saddle height, a narrower, ³racier² saddle is more likely
to please most riders.

4) While the above may constitute reasonable beginning guidelines, the best
saddle solution can vary widely from the norm due to individual
circumstances.

5) Some riders find Brooks and similar saddles to be comfortable enough that
they accept higher maintenance and greater weight, while other riders prefer
the modern saddle design of a padded plastic shell for comfort, lower
maintenance, and/or lighter weight.

6) While the Roadeo may be one of the racier stock models yet produced by
Rivendell, we¹ve all still pretty much agreed (some grudgingly) that the
right saddle for that particular bike is whatever best suits the owner.

Well, okay, then. Can we move on to the best handlebars for the Roadeo,
please?

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Re: [RBW] What's the right saddle? Really?

[Jon Grant]

On Mar 19, 2010, at 20:00, Jon Grant mailto:jgr...@papagrant.com> > wrote:
> 
> Well, okay, then. Can we move on to the best handlebars for the Roadeo,
> please?

---
rswatson quipped:

Right here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lukira/2746197544

---

I don¹t care who ya are, that¹s funny raht thar.

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Re: [RBW] Re: $300 Sugino Double Crankset

[Jon Grant]

Garth wrote:

There's some about the Aluminum cost differences in this
http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/261/original_twocranksblogcomp.pdf
if you hadn't seen it.

The Alpina/Cospea do look just like the Mighty though, from these
links.
http://www.velo-orange.com/sualcr.html
http://www.benscycle.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=9440&z
enid=f89716241ad1a74de46f2747c5a83f58

But .I may have figured it out.. these appear to be made of
6061 Al, not the more expensive 2014 Al, which the Mighty cranks are
made of.
If you look online for Mighty Track cranks, you'll see they're $300
plus. That's because of the 2014 Al used.

-

Yeah, I use 2014 cranks exclusively on all my race bikes, but I make do with
6061 cranks on my training bikes.

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[RBW] Reheated carbon fiber bikes?

[Jon Grant]

Um, guys. Didn¹t we just do this one a week or two ago? How about, um, oh! I
know! The Poifect Handlebar Tape for a Steel-Drop-Barred Hunqapillar!
Discuss.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hilarious Linguistic Observation

[Jon Grant]

For that matter, the letters ³i² and ³l² appear in Rivendell, Atlantis, and
Saluki ‹ though not in specific order or adjacent.

Huh.

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From: Marty 
Reply-To: 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 03:52:00 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Hilarious Linguistic Observation

Right you are - I missed that one. Guess that would be a "uil". It
even extends to favorite charities, where we find the "mil" of Smile
Train.

OK - enough on this. Don't want to spawn any ill will...

On Mar 24, 12:16 am, Horace  wrote:
> And the ram. :-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Marty  wrote:
> > Happened to notice how many models have an "il" in them: Two hils, a
> > pil, an'a dil. (Not to mention the old wil) That's almost a whole sac
> > vil!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

[Jon Grant]

I don¹t think it¹s a scam; I bought my plans from JS that way. But even my
own plans aren¹t worth $200 to me. I wish him luck.

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From: JoelMatthews 
Reply-To: 
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 10:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Ebay Sale of the Carter's Bike Plans

maybe I am falling for a con, but I find the seller's writing style
curiously charming. Nice photo of the bike anyway.

On Mar 24, 11:21 am, Erik C  wrote:
> Not even sure what to say about this auction. It isn't mine of course.
> I'm having a hard time believing anyone will want this. Maybe i'm
> wrong.
>
> http://tiny.cc/qqcmd

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Re: [RBW] XO-1 sighting, original owner too!

[Jon Grant]

Izzat a Chariot I see hooked up to the Bombadil? We have two of them.
Excellent designs.

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From: jinxed 
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:15:13 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] XO-1 sighting, original owner too!

So I took the kiddo out for a 35 mile pull in the trailer today taking
advantage of the not-snow/wind/rain weather. We headed downtown to
play at a park, and stopped off mid-ride at the REI flagship store for
a snack. As I rolled up I immediately noticed an XO-1 out of the vast
sea of bikes that flood the cafe there. One quick glance around, and I
spied a group of three sitting at one of the tables who looked old
enough know better, but young enough to still get in trouble! Walked
up..."which one of you owns the XO?" They took a funny look around at
all the other tables full of cyclists I think wondering why I picked
them to ask. Then (Mr. G) raises his hand, "uh, I do...how did you
know?" Call it an educated guess. The other riders sitting around were
either in full race kit, or skin tight rolled up jeans and sleeve
tatts.

Anyway we had a nice little talk and turns out he and his wife both
purchased XO-1's new but on closeout for $600 each. His wife later
switched to a recumbent and passed the Bstone on to her sister. Mr. G
has been riding his since new. He said so far this year he's clocked
over a thousand miles just on the XO. Nice.

The bike was in great condition, and fairly stock. I love that he
loves it. Bikes with history are good bikes indeed.

Here graciously allowed me to pose for a picture with him and his
bike. Maybe 15 years from now someone will walk up to me and say..hey,
is that your Bombadil? I hope so.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4024/4474700190_071e2121dd_b.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Grant's latest post.

[Jon Grant]

I didn¹t read ³fat tires for the road and skinny tire for the dirt.² Rather,
I got the impression of a message consistent with past writings: You can be
happy riding fatter tire on pavement and skinnier tires off-road ‹ that is,
same tires for most all conditions. Then you don¹t need two specialized
machines and attendant gear; you can just ride wherever. You can just ride.
Just ride. RIDE.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks B17 Pre-aged vs. standard

[Jon Grant]

In my experience of a dozen or so, the black Brooks saddles have been harder
than the honey ones ‹ sometimes objectionably so.

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[RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

[Jon Grant]

Hey, y¹all,

We live in Austin, too. Among the many bikes we have in the house:

1. Rivendell custom
2. Rambouillet 
3. Blériot 
4. Bridgestone XO-2 (currently on long-term loan to my aunt)

In addition, the neighbors across the street have a Rambouillet and a
Blériot, and I¹ve been riding lately with another guy, Karl, who has a
Blériot. We live south, almost to Oak Hill.

How many other Austinites are on this list?

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From: Beardpapa 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2009 20:48:42 -0800 (PST)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Introduction from Austin, TX

Hey Shawn, Sean and Cliff,

I'm also an Austinite.  I currently have in my stable:

1.  XO-1
2.  RB-T
3.  RB-1
4.  RB-2 (that I'm selling)

My buddys got a XO-1 and a MB-2 as well.
We need to do a BOB/Riv ride!

On Dec 1, 9:17 pm, Angus  wrote:
> That is a great looking RB-T Shawn!  Love those bikes.
>
> I'm a bit further away, but there are other like minded cyclists in
> the great state of Texas.
>
> Angus "Tyler TX"
>
> If you are ever in the area...
>
> On Nov 30, 8:47 pm, shawn  wrote:
>
>
>
> > HI All,
> > I have been lurking here for a few weeks, and thought I would finally
> > introduce myself. Although I do not currently own a Rivendell (I'm in
> > Grad school) I do have two Bridgestones and hope that I will be
> > welcome here. I definitely subscribe to the Rivendell/Grant Petersen
> > philosophy and look forward to participating in future conversations.
> > Here are some pics of my bikes:
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4149086420/
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/11139...@n00/4148325593/in/photostream/
>
> > Thanks,
> > Shawn
> > Austin, TX

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Re: [RBW] canti-rom

[Jon Grant]

Seth Vidal asked:

 Does anyone know why riv stopped making the simpler lug design? The
more ornate lugs like on the AHH and atlantis are beautiful but there
is something nicely understated about the ones on the romulus.

---

IIRC, Grant Petersen generally prefers lugs to be more on the ornate side,
but they increase production costs. E.g., as costs rose, the later Atlantis
and Rambouillet had considerably simpler lugs that the early versions. I
suspect that if some recent bikes have returned to the complex lugs, it¹s
because Grant found the money in the production budget to do what he
prefers. The man fights hard for his vision of the function and the form of
his bikes.
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[RBW] WAS: Riv beater NOW: Lock Cozies

[Jon Grant]

Nathan pondered:

Your talk of locks and paint chips reminds me that I'd really like to
see Rivendell sell a [tweed] Sackville u-lock cozy. Mmmm. Or maybe I
should just figure out how to acquire a couple of these:
.



Yeah, as you might guess, there's a flickr group for that:



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[RBW] This retro thing went too far to start with

[Jon Grant]

This has exactly zero to do with Rivendell. Make it stop, please.

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Re: [RBW] Seat Squeaks!

[Jon Grant]

JimD wrote:

I'm using a Brooks Swift and it is making noise. I'll characterize it
as a leathery squeak. I've lubricated and checked the fasteners and think
this is a leather squeak not a rail to seat post or seat post to frame
squeak. Has anyone here encountered such a problem? Any experience/tips on
how to cure saddle squeak?

---

I ride a variety of (wider) Brooks saddles: B.17, B.67, etc. Each of them
has developed squeaks occasionally. What works for me is a judicious
application of Phil oil. (or WD-40 if I¹m in a big hurry ‹ yes, yes, I know
it¹s not a "real" lubricant.) to the collection of metal parts in the nose
of the saddle. Much more rarely, it's the seatpost/rails junctions, and then
only with one-bolt seat posts.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Vitruvian Shoes

[Jon Grant]

Bruce wrote:

 When I placed my order for a pair of Symmetry II shoes, I got an email back
saying that these run a tad smaller than the original Symmetry shoes I
ordered last year, and suggesting I move up a size. That's pretty attentive
service from anyone, let alone someone closing up shop. I took the advice
and the fit of the new shoes is good.

---

I got the same message when I ordered two more pair. On their advice I
changed 10.5 to 11. I agree about the service; they're GOOB and have a
strict no refund/exchange policy, so they could've just taken my money and
set me useless shoes, but they didn't. Now I have enough Vitruvians to last
another decade or more. My second pair is still in casual service, and my
first pair serve as lawn-mowing shoes.

Sorry to see them go. In my view, they may be closing the doors, but they
did not fail.

RBW content: I first heard of Vitruvian through a recommendation by Grant
Petersen at Rivendell, and the shoes definitely fit my understanding of The
Rivendell Way.

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Re: [RBW] Garage Sale #4: TA too?

[Jon Grant]

Wow, Chris, that pair of TA crank arms at the bottom of the page, man!
they're sweet. But alas, they're 175s. If only they measured 173.75 mm, I'd
snap them up in a heartbeat.

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Re: [RBW] MKS Touring Pedal

[Jon Grant]

John Bailey is having a lot of trouble with his MKS touring pedals:

Both pedals started having a "clicking" sound. I took them apart and
loosened the adjusting nut 1/4 turn.  That seemed to fix the problem. Then
the left pedal seized up.  I took it apart, clean off the old grease and
repacked the bearings. There wasn't much grease on the bearings to begin
with. They seem to work now, but I'll know better after today's ride. Is
this normal for these pedals? They feel great and I would hate to give up on
them. I know they're pretty cheap pedals, but I thought they would last a
little longer without the hassles. Any advice would be very appreciated.

---

John,

They are VERY inexpensive pedals, but high-value, I think. I use them on all
our bikes except the off-roaders. I've found a little prep prevents dry
bearings (insufficient factory grease) and clicking (sharp edges at the
spindle shoulder-crankarm interface). Here's my SOP: Before install, remove
dust cap, add generous grease, close dust cap. Wipe away excess grease. Then
generously grease spindle threads and add a greased pedal washer.
 Install pedal. Wipe away excess grease. This solves
all problems I've ever had with them, and after a couple hundred miles the
bearings feel as smooth as any.

Everyone agrees on the add'l grease in the bearings. I've encountered
disagreement on the necessity of pedals washers, but in my experience with a
dozen or more pairs, the clicking is a consistent problem, and the pedal
washers are the consistent solution.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MKS Touring Pedal

[Jon Grant]

bfd asked:

Do you need a special tool to remove the dust cap? Thanks!

---

It¹s possible to use pliers, but I've never done it without bunging up the
edge. I like the tool for it:


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Re: [RBW] 1982 Bridgestone Atlantis

[Jon Grant]

From: Jacob Smyth 


You can the pictures here:
http://picasaweb.google.com/100062156430961581353/BridgestoneAtlantis02?feat
=directlink

---

A beautiful bicycle to be sure, but how is it appropriate to this list,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Check this Bombadil!

[Jon Grant]

William mused:

It is kind of zaftig, come to think of it.

---

Oh, ja, zaftig! An absolutely perfect word.

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet on Colorado Springs, CO Craigslist

[Jon Grant]

Doug Way wrote:

No connection with the seller.  Could be a great deal if it is a
complete bike for $1200.  No frame size given in the ad.

Here's the link:
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/1947392664.html

Doug Way
Boulder, CO

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[RBW] Roadeos and Downtube Shifters

[Jon Grant]

Moot point, right? I mean, I thought the Roadeo didn't have the proper
bosses for downtube shifters. It looks to me like all that¹s there are cable
guides. Like the Blériot. I own a Blériot, and I consider the lack of
downtube shifter bosses its single fault.

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[RBW] FS: Exustar SRT707 Touring Shoes, Size 41, New

[Jon Grant]

Perfect and beautiful, but bought the wrong size. $75.00 shipped CONUS;
Paypal preferred.

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Re: [RBW] Fitting a chariot

[Jon Grant]

Allan,

Like you, my PBH is 85 cm, though I'm an inch shorter than you at 5'-8.5". I
used to ride a 56cm Trek 760, which always felt a little cramped. I now
divide my time between a 60.5cm Riv custom and a 59cm Bleriot. (or is it 58?
I forget.) I'd be surprised if you couldn't find a 59 or 60 to test ride in
Portland, and I'd be more surprised if you didn't love it almost
immediately.

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Re: [RBW] Re: You read it here first

[Jon Grant]

This whole thread has become a parody of itself.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Vaporizing Nitto Jaguar Bolt

[Jon Grant]

Rob in Seattle wrote:

> > > Changing out the saddle on my Saluki yesterday I dropped one of the  
> > > bolts from its Nitto Jaguar seatpost, and it vaporized. Absolutely  
> > > nowhere to be found. Tore apart the garage looking for it. Found the  
> > > proprietary washer, but the bolt itself vanished. Isn't it amazing how  
> > > that can happen?

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plastic washer from my Silver shifter onto the gray garage floor and it
disappeared. I heard it bounce off the spoke of the wheel as it fell, and
that was the last evidence I had that it ever existed. It went to live with
Jesus.

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Re: [RBW] birthday discounts?

[Jon Grant]

Happy birthday, Seth!

I sent in my info, too, but I never got confirmation of receipt. My
birthday¹s in a couple of weeks.

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From: Seth Vidal 
Reply-To: 
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:46:07 -0400
To: 
Subject: [RBW] birthday discounts?

Hi,
 I know this sounds like a ridiculous question but I'll ask anyway -
does anyone know what happened to the birthday discounts that Grant
had talked about a while back?

I sent in my info and miesha sent me back a note saying she got it but.

well, it's my birthday today. :)

So I was wondering if I had missed it for this year or if there was
something else?

Maybe I'll call and ask.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] The Scott Sisters

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On the Contact Page at 
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From: Philip Williamson 
Reply-To: 
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 19:37:22 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] The Scott Sisters

I see Grant's blogpost about the Scott sisters in Mississippi, (http://
www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/294) but can't figure out how to
send the governor an email from the official site, or post on his
Facebook page.

Can anyone help with an email address?

Philip

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Re: [RBW] Carradice Rain Cape FS $50

[Jon Grant]

I¹ll be your huckleberry. Let¹s give it a shot. Paypal?
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From: Eric Norris 
Reply-To: 
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:29:13 -0700
To: 
Subject: [RBW] Carradice Rain Cape FS $50

Thought I would use this when I bought it from Beth in Portland last year,
but I didn't.  Now is *your* chance to own a genuine English rain cape.
Excellent condition.  Comes without the optional hood.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4286289085/

$50 shipped to your door in the USA.

--Eric N

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[RBW] Carradice Raincape Broadcast

[Jon Grant]

Sorry, fellow listers, for not replying only to the OP.
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From: Jon Grant 
Reply-To: 
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:49:14 -0500
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Carradice Rain Cape FS $50

I¹ll be your huckleberry. Let¹s give it a shot. Paypal?
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From: Eric Norris 
Reply-To: 
Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 09:29:13 -0700
To: 
Subject: [RBW] Carradice Rain Cape FS $50

Thought I would use this when I bought it from Beth in Portland last year,
but I didn't.  Now is *your* chance to own a genuine English rain cape.
Excellent condition.  Comes without the optional hood.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4286289085/

$50 shipped to your door in the USA.

--Eric N

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[RBW] WAS: New Custom Rivendell NOW: Braze-on Quikchainger

[Jon Grant]

They come from Columbine Cycle Works, called the Quikchainger. Back in 2003,
I bought one and sent it to Rivendell to be brazed onto the frame Joe Starck
was making for me.  They
have a plastic, bolt-on version, too.


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From: MichaelS 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 07:05:53 -0400
To: 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: My new Custom Rivendell

Very nice bike!

I wish that my custom had a chain holder braze-on on the chainstay.  Is that
a new option from Rivendell?

Cheers- Mike in s. Boston, Mass


> On Oct 25, 2:05 pm, frank_a  wrote:
>> > I got it last week, well worth the wait. I've owned or own a
>> > Quickbeam, a couple of Atlantis', a Saluki, a (Waterford) Rivendell
>> > Road and an A. Homer Hilsen.
>> >  I told Grant what worked for me and what didn't, here's what he came
>> > up with.
>> >
>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/8531...@n06/sets/72157625110373653/
>> >
>> > And I am very happy.
>> >
>> > - Frank
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation

[Jon Grant]

Whatever else you can say about them, they have a clever URL.
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From: lukemcg 
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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:28:35 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Wanted: Rivvish cloth wallet recommendation

I've used this wallet on the plains of Kansas with our 90-100 degree
days and high humidity:  http://www.all-ett.com/

Luke

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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

[Jon Grant]

On Nov 8, 1:10 pm, William  asked:
>  What do you do in the winter?  Overhaul your favorite bike?  Go
> through the parts stash and clean house?  Start up a new bike
> project?  Take on a restoration?

---

Mission: All Bike on the Road: Make every frame a rideable bike or give it
to someone who will. Catch up with cleaning and maintenance on bikes being
ridden now, including tool kits, pumps, fenders, racks, and bags.
Re-organize the Big Ol' Box O' Parts in the process.

Currently, we have 11 rideable bikes (including a pair of Burley Piccolos
and the borrowed bakfiets, but not including the kid trailer), two
unridable, and two bare frames ‹ and possibly another on the way. We have
four bikes out on indefinite loan in Texas, Oklahoma, and Alabama.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Name changes for Rivendell brands and models?

[Jon Grant]

William  wondered:

This is a total tangent but I was on a quick little lunchtime spin
when I realized I have no idea what the A. in A. Homer Hilsen stands
for.  What does the A. stand for?  Whatever I want it to stand for?

---

Aloysius.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 71cm AHH Q2

[Jon Grant]

David (I think) asked:

> Question 2 then: B-17 Special or B-67 saddle?

---
Disclosures: I¹m 5'-9", 225 lbs. None of my bikes have bars lower than
saddle height, so I can't speak to that condition. Also, I cannot speak
knowledgeably of saddle other than Brooks, except to say that none I've
tried fit my hind end as well ‹ by a large margin.

I use the B.17 Champion Special (275mm x 175mm) on bikes with drop bars
level or slightly higher than the saddle. I use a Champion Flyer Special
(same dimensions as a B.17 + springs) on my full-rigid mountain bike, where
the rough terrain warrants some suspension. I use a Champ Flyer S (242mm x
176mm + springs) on a townie, shared with my wife, with Albatross-ish bars
where my position is more upright. I have a B.68 S (240mm x 205mm) on a
Bakfiets cargo bike with a very upright position, but I would trade it today
for B.67 (260mm x 205mm + springs) ‹ it really needs a wide saddle with
springs.

If I were setting up a road bike with Albatross bars level-ish with the
saddle, I'd probably want a Champ Flyer Special. If I planned to raise the
bars two or more inches, I might move to a B.67.

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Re: [RBW] Ultimate Cycling Mitts

[Jon Grant]

Jim Cloud wrote:

I just came across this website: (http://www.dromarti.com/index.php?
main_page=product_info&cPath=15&products_id=27&zenid=f15f76c3ec135e503e4f34b
c41706926)
for the ultimate in cycling mitts, made by Dromarti.  Needless to say,
they ain't cheap!  I'm lusting after them anyway, they really look
better than anything I've seen in the market, including those made by
Rapha.  Presumably, VO Imports is also working on some cycling gloves
that they trolled some time ago on the VO Blog site.  They also looked
quite nice, but the gestation period for their development has
certainly run into a long period!

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ

-- 
Almost just what I've been looking for. Appear quite well-constructed from
high-quality materials, and not too padded -- a big deal, at least to me.
But the knuckle holes appear to not line up with the knuckles, making them
look like an affectation meant to bump up the MSRP. Worse, the gratuitous
addition of the expensive leather bag (which undoubtedly is lovingly encased
in another plastic bag, which is protected by a padded custom box --
Russian-doll packaging, I call it) is off-putting. Well-made stuff that
comes in earnestly minimal packaging makes a much better impression on me.

Remove the showy (between the) knuckle holes, keep the fancy leather bag,
and I'd pay $50. for them right now. I'd consider $75, maybe.

RBW content: Every box I've ever received from Rivendell has been the very
model of minimal packaging.

Perhaps The Allergies are making me cranky today.

--
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Re: [RBW] Re: Question about types of platform pedals

[Jon Grant]

William wrote:

Those MG-1's are pretty slick.  Maybe I'll give them a try someday.

---

A couple of weeks before this thread took up, we bought our first pair of
BMX pedals, then our second.

A friend suggested BMX pedals to improve foot control on my ATB, so I
replaced older Deore rat-trap mountain pedals with the Wellgo B-76. I have
delighted at how well my feet now stay where I put them. My wife rode my
bike and wanted similar pedals for her townie, so I bought Wellgo MG-1's for
her -- bright yellow, of course, to match cable housings, grips, bell, and
decals.

The cast magnesium MG-1 is noticeably lighter in the hand than the machined
aluminum B-76, but I notice no weight difference while riding. Both models
are quite wide, but they live on high-BB bikes ridden by the risk-averse, so
pedal strike is not a practical worry. It's true they're not easily
modified, save the addition or removal of pins -- again, not a real drawback
for me.

We both consider these pedals significant improvements for relatively little
money.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

[Jon Grant]

+2 for the bagman. I have two of them, a smaller for a Carradice Barley and
a larger one for an older, larger Carradice-made Rivendell bag. They go on
and off the bike with ease, really. Don¹t know why they¹re not more popular
with this crowd.

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From: "Allingham II, Thomas J" 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:24:36 -0500
To: "'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'"

Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

+1 for the Bagman.  I have a non-QR version on my Quickbeam under a Nigel
Smythe Country bag, and it works great and is very light.
>From the front:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4411487711/
>From the rear:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542...@n04/4412267966/

-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Pesce
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 9:39 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Sackville SaddleSack Tips

I don't have a Saddlesack, but I use a Carradice Bagman support on my Sam H
and I love it.
I have the QR version and leave it on all the time, but the attachment is
only one hex screw, so it's not a lot of work to put it on every time,
either.
Just my 2c.

-Pete

On Nov 15, 10:09 pm, "D.Lemon"  wrote:
> Dear RBW Owners Bunch,
>
> For those who currently (or have ever) own and operate the Medium
> SackVille SS bag, I'm wondering what your technique is (was) for
> lifting the bag up and away from the rear tire.
>
> Item #5 on RBW's "SaddleSack Tips" states "The extra set of D-rings at
> the bottom of the Medium bag let you hoist the bag off the tire, if it
> rubs" "...They are there for the creative."
>
> So, I write to the group in hopes that some will provide their
> "creative" use of those D-rings to lift the bag off the tire.  I'm
> aware the Nitto Top Rack is the ideal remedy here, but I'd rather not
> use one.
>
> Specs:  I run a 56 AHH with a fistful of post, silver side-pulls, and
> Schwalbe Maras...  of which the rear one really wants to rub the
> underside of the bag with even the slightest of loads.
>
> Many thanks in advance for your input.
>
> David

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet Serial #'s?

[Jon Grant]

Jim Edgar asked:

. . . can anyone supply a low-numbered (under 1000) factory-blue
Rambouillet serial number?

Thanks for playing!

- Jim

---

My wife¹s blue Rambouillet is serial # RB0613, and it came to us as a whole
bike in 2004, maybe.

Jon ³What¹s my name again?² Grant, in, uh, lessee now ‹ oh yeah!
Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Riddle me this.

[Jon Grant]

The money we spend and how we choose to spend it. Sheesh.

I have a Joe S./Curt/Joe B. Rivendell custom that was damaged in a
collision. While it was away for repair, I put almost all the parts on a
(Panasonic-built?) Schwinn World Voyageur frame so I could continue riding
to work. It was pretty enough, and rode just fine. One day, without thinking
of all the possible ramifications of my words, I remarked to my wife, ³You
know, that old Schwinn is about 70% as good a ride as the Rivendell.² Oops.
She pulled up short and said, ³Wait. The bike you paid fifty bucks for is
two thirds as good as the bike that cost us more than three grand?² After
she started talking to me again, we had some long and interesting
discussions about nuances of design and craftsmanship and their effect on
function and quality of our lives, both individually and as a society. I
still have the Riv and still catch myself staring at it, marveling at the
details of joinery and paint, and marveling at the ride when astride it. The
Schwinn has gone to a deserving home, with no regrets.

I will say this: I CANNOT understand how some folks spend so much money on
boats and fishing gear. Now that¹s just ridiculous.

--
Jon ³Kidding! I kid!² Grant, house-bound in
Austin, Texas

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Re: [RBW] 52cm Bombadil for sale IS NOW SOLD! Thanks!!

[Jon Grant]

Yes. Well, I suppose it¹s all for the best. Congratulations, Andrew. 

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From: jinxed 
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Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 18:25:25 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] 52cm Bombadil for sale IS NOW SOLD! Thanks!!

Thanks (again) Andrew! :)

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[RBW] WAS: Diagonapillar NOW: Even Sillier

[Jon Grant]

happyriding wrote desperately:

I'm going to start a new thread.



Good luck and Godspeed on your most noble but futile of quests.

My favorite part: When folks started treating Photoshop jokes like a done
deal. Ah, didn¹t we laugh -- didn¹t we?

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dark
Austin, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up

[Jon Grant]

Wow.

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From: Mike 
Reply-To: 
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:30:55 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: There's another Jay-riding video up

Here's a link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR4KaDeAuI

Jay, good job. I think that video highlights what's important about
bikes, getting out and riding.

--mike

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[RBW] WAS: Touring Advice NOW: Mirror Poll

[Jon Grant]

On Apr 7, 9:19 pm, happyriding  wrote:
> Mirrors: for or against?  Handlebar or helmet mounted?
>
> Thanks.

---

I¹m for it. Helmet visor mount. I can see lots more than with a h-bar
mounted one, just by turning my head a bit. Sometimes when I¹m off the bike,
I find myself swiveling my head about to get a better look behind me,
wishing I had a rear-view mirror all the time. I suspect that would
embarrass family members, though. ³Yeah, Uncle Jon hit Crazy Old Coot mode
kinda early in life . . .²

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Austin, Texas

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[RBW] Silver Hupe love

[Jon Grant]

From: GeorgeS 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Silver Hupe love

Man, I am so glad to read this thread.  I kept thinking it was just
me.  Now I can throw mine away w/o guilt.  I agree that it should not
be sold or resold.  Nice people don't do stuff like that.
GeorgeS

---

Rather than throwing it away, send it to me. I¹ll reimburse postage by
PayPal, even throw in a couple of extra bucks for packing. I have an old
bike I¹d like to try it on.

Thanks!

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Drawings ‹ all sorts

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Re: [RBW] Four by Four Array of bikes

[Jon Grant]

Roadeo/46 Noodle, 28mm tires, fenders, tiny bag
Saluki/48 Noodle, Hetres, fenders, middle-size saddlebag
Atlantis/48 Noodle, 50mm tires, fenders, racks, generator lights
Bombadil/bullmoose, Patrick-Moore-size knobby tires

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From: William 
Reply-To: 
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 15:35:03 -0700 (PDT)
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Four by Four Array of bikes

So the three Hunqa prototypes at RBWHQ have three different
handlebars:

The 48 has Bullmoose bars
The 54 won't be around until next week or later
The 58 has Noodles
The 62 has Albatross bars

It seems natural to me that they'd build the 54 with a Moustache bar,
and that the bike would be equally right with all 4.  That's true of
several Rivendell models.  So, my hypothetical is:  Imagine that
Rivendell built up a 4x4 array of bikes.  In the four columns are four
models of bike (all in your size of course):  the Sam Hillborne, the
Bombadil, the Atlantis, and the Hunqapillar.  In the four rows are
those four handlebars:  Noodle, Moustache, bullmoose and Albatross.
How many bikes would you need to build your stable?  And which bikes
would you pick?

I imagine some of you might pick 3 or 4 Atlantis'.  Some others might
replace the Hillborne column with a Hilsen column.

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