Re: [RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Earl Grey wrote: > Oh, and regarding San aesthetics, a year ago any discussion about fork > bend would have been utterly lost on me, but the sloping tt on the Sam > almost kept me from buying one. Now I think the San Marcos' fork is a > crime on such a nice bike, and the tt hardly bothers me at all. In > fact, I now prefer the aesthetics of sloping tt + moderate stem > extension to horizontal tt and 20+ cm of stem showing, fwiw. Though I > do think that matching the angle of the tt and the stem extension is > nice. > > Grant, any chance you can commission nitto to make a traditional quill > stem with a 6 degree rise? Oh well, didn't think so... > Well - curiuously enough tange makes a lot of forks. You might want to look through their website - see if any of them would be the right fit. It could overlap nicely. A San Frame + tange fork. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
Oh, and regarding San aesthetics, a year ago any discussion about fork bend would have been utterly lost on me, but the sloping tt on the Sam almost kept me from buying one. Now I think the San Marcos' fork is a crime on such a nice bike, and the tt hardly bothers me at all. In fact, I now prefer the aesthetics of sloping tt + moderate stem extension to horizontal tt and 20+ cm of stem showing, fwiw. Though I do think that matching the angle of the tt and the stem extension is nice. Grant, any chance you can commission nitto to make a traditional quill stem with a 6 degree rise? Oh well, didn't think so... On Oct 4, 4:24 am, Earl Grey wrote: > I too have become a big rapid rise/bar end fan due to Grant's > promotion of them. Love the idea of the switchable rear derailer. Good > luck with that. That said, there is another diff, which is that the > cable attachment bolt is on the back plate of the parallelogram > instead of the front one. I assume Grant knows this, but just in > case... > > Istarted stocking up on them a while back as I don't really like the > current X-shaped ones. And yes, they were designed to work with the > mtn brifters where you shift by pushing down on the brake levers. One > last thing: rapid rise detailers work really well with Campy Ergo > brifters, which don't have the silly one gear at a time limitation > (but you gotta use 10 sp campy with 8 speed shimano, or 10 sp with 9 > sp and route the rear del cable the wrong way around the bolt. > > On Oct 3, 8:19 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > I have an RR derailleur on my bombadil, a high-normal derailleur on my > > trek, and a suntour cyclone equipped centurion with the 'backward' > > front derailleur. I switch between bikes all the time, and after > > the first couple of shifts, you don't really have to think about it > > anymore. > > > I think the main benefit of RR derailleur that makes me want to stock > > up on them as well is that, when using them with friction shifters, on > > the rare occasion that you slip out of gear (which only ever happens > > when you're going up hill for some reason) you end up in a lower > > gear. This is WAY better than 'standard' rear d's where you end up > > thrown into an even harder gear in the middle of a climb. > > > On Oct 3, 7:00 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 23:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike wrote: > > > > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. > > > > Nothing beats > > > > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > > > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and > > > > someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a > > > > poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. > > > > I think RR stands for "Rapid Rise," also known as "ass backwards," or > > > "low normal": unhook the cable, and the derailleur auto-shifts to the > > > lowest gear/largest sprocket. > > > > I don't follow this sort of thing closely, but in a recent thread on > > > 2011 XTR someone made the comment that "Rapid Rise is now dead". > > > > > I don't like them atall. > > > > I've been through this once before, with SunTour backwards-acting front > > > derailleurs. Sooner or later, no matter how much you love the gear (and > > > I loved the Compe V front derailleur, and hung onto them many years > > > after they went out of production) you have to switch back, and the > > > switch is painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
I too have become a big rapid rise/bar end fan due to Grant's promotion of them. Love the idea of the switchable rear derailer. Good luck with that. That said, there is another diff, which is that the cable attachment bolt is on the back plate of the parallelogram instead of the front one. I assume Grant knows this, but just in case... Istarted stocking up on them a while back as I don't really like the current X-shaped ones. And yes, they were designed to work with the mtn brifters where you shift by pushing down on the brake levers. One last thing: rapid rise detailers work really well with Campy Ergo brifters, which don't have the silly one gear at a time limitation (but you gotta use 10 sp campy with 8 speed shimano, or 10 sp with 9 sp and route the rear del cable the wrong way around the bolt. On Oct 3, 8:19 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > I have an RR derailleur on my bombadil, a high-normal derailleur on my > trek, and a suntour cyclone equipped centurion with the 'backward' > front derailleur. I switch between bikes all the time, and after > the first couple of shifts, you don't really have to think about it > anymore. > > I think the main benefit of RR derailleur that makes me want to stock > up on them as well is that, when using them with friction shifters, on > the rare occasion that you slip out of gear (which only ever happens > when you're going up hill for some reason) you end up in a lower > gear. This is WAY better than 'standard' rear d's where you end up > thrown into an even harder gear in the middle of a climb. > > On Oct 3, 7:00 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 23:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike wrote: > > > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > > > wrote: > > > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. > > > Nothing beats > > > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and > > > someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a > > > poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. > > > I think RR stands for "Rapid Rise," also known as "ass backwards," or > > "low normal": unhook the cable, and the derailleur auto-shifts to the > > lowest gear/largest sprocket. > > > I don't follow this sort of thing closely, but in a recent thread on > > 2011 XTR someone made the comment that "Rapid Rise is now dead". > > > > I don't like them atall. > > > I've been through this once before, with SunTour backwards-acting front > > derailleurs. Sooner or later, no matter how much you love the gear (and > > I loved the Compe V front derailleur, and hung onto them many years > > after they went out of production) you have to switch back, and the > > switch is painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
I have an RR derailleur on my bombadil, a high-normal derailleur on my trek, and a suntour cyclone equipped centurion with the 'backward' front derailleur.I switch between bikes all the time, and after the first couple of shifts, you don't really have to think about it anymore. I think the main benefit of RR derailleur that makes me want to stock up on them as well is that, when using them with friction shifters, on the rare occasion that you slip out of gear (which only ever happens when you're going up hill for some reason) you end up in a lower gear. This is WAY better than 'standard' rear d's where you end up thrown into an even harder gear in the middle of a climb. On Oct 3, 7:00 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 23:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike wrote: > > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > wrote: > > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. > > Nothing beats > > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and > > someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a > > poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. > > I think RR stands for "Rapid Rise," also known as "ass backwards," or > "low normal": unhook the cable, and the derailleur auto-shifts to the > lowest gear/largest sprocket. > > I don't follow this sort of thing closely, but in a recent thread on > 2011 XTR someone made the comment that "Rapid Rise is now dead". > > > > > I don't like them atall. > > I've been through this once before, with SunTour backwards-acting front > derailleurs. Sooner or later, no matter how much you love the gear (and > I loved the Compe V front derailleur, and hung onto them many years > after they went out of production) you have to switch back, and the > switch is painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 23:56 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike wrote: > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > wrote: > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. > Nothing beats > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and > someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a > poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. I think RR stands for "Rapid Rise," also known as "ass backwards," or "low normal": unhook the cable, and the derailleur auto-shifts to the lowest gear/largest sprocket. I don't follow this sort of thing closely, but in a recent thread on 2011 XTR someone made the comment that "Rapid Rise is now dead". > > > I don't like them atall. I've been through this once before, with SunTour backwards-acting front derailleurs. Sooner or later, no matter how much you love the gear (and I loved the Compe V front derailleur, and hung onto them many years after they went out of production) you have to switch back, and the switch is painful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
Parallel TT lovers unite! Yeah, I can see a quirky sort of appeal that I'd probably nurse into fondness if I were in the market for a Hunqa-type bike. But basically it looks too much a mash-up for me. Dare I mention the Pontiac Aztek? Or would I sound like the King in "Amadeus" if I said "Too many angles!"? Oh well, I'm not in love with the colors or the lug-lining, either. Perhaps it was the one-time use of the word "kidney" in its description. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 2, 11:51 am, Johnny Alien wrote: > It looks good but I am still not sure how I feel about the sloping TT > look. I much prefer a straighter TT. > > On Oct 2, 11:19 am, eflayer wrote: > > > > > I recently purchased a Gunnar Sport with custom Waterford threaded > > steel fork. The idea was to get to a bike just like the San Marcos. > > The Gunnar is gorgeous and rides well, but no lugs and a bit kludgy to > > get the 1 inch fork installed into the 1.125 headtube. Love the bike, > > but would have probably preferred the "San" instead. Think Grant and > > Merry Sales found a nice little empty hole in the marketplace and the > > San should fill it just right. My Gunnar with custom steel fork was > > $1150, so the price point on the San is just right or even more fair. > > > On Oct 2, 8:10 am, eflayer wrote: > > > > the perfect addition to the Soma Fab and Riv families. Sorta like > > > half way between a Smoothie ES and a Sam. Smoothies are fine and > > > cheap, but you gotta go modern with shortish headtube and 1.125 > > > steerer. The "San" gets you lugs, old school fork/stem technology > > > (cool!), I like that barely bent steel fork, and Roadeo-ish geometry. > > > Always room for another great idea, collaboration, and more > > > traditional steel. Good luck to all involved. I am thinking these > > > will be hotcakes in our lifestyle niche. > > > > On Oct 2, 7:44 am, Justin August wrote: > > > > > I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ > > > > Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the > > > > VO Rando frame. > > > > > On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > > > > > > Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > > > > > happening. > > > > > > --mike- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
I think I get the gist. With my mountain-y trigger brifters I use a normal (non-rapid-rise) derailer. And will continue to do so as wear requires it. Those things really do work well together. And that's by design; Shimano documents say that trigger shifters and non-rapid-rise derailers should be used together. Now, I've never used them but I have always thought that the "dual control" brifters that Shimano makes (or made at one time, anyway... LX) looked cool-but-too-finicky. Never tried them. Were those supposed to work with rapid-rise derailers better than non-rapid-rise derailers? If not, I do wonder what Shimano was thinking. Maybe they planned to come out with some newfangled shifters to become the standard rapid-rise-optimized ones? Maybe those proved difficult to produce or market? Otherwise, I really wonder what happened there. Because it's kind of difficult to believe Shimano produced rapid-rise derailers and marketed them as hard as they did with the *sure and certain knowledge* that they would *only* work well with bar-end or "thumb-y" or downtube shifters. All of those are perceived by "the mainstream" as either retro or quirky, I think; not Shimano's go-to stuff for new revenue. Oh well, I certainly can't complain. I am very happy with my $15-$20 non-rapid-rise derailer on my "low-down dirty" Trek (it acquired "low- down dirty" status when I got my Hillborne!); and have been for the past 5000+ miles. And I'm also very happy with my XT rapid-rise derailer with my Hillborne (all bar-ends or bar-ends-on-thumbies). And now I've got somewhere between 3 and 30 years of XT or LX rapid-rise derailers (I'll only learn their MTBF over time). I hope the LX is basically as functional as the XT. I haven't mounted one of those yet; I note with happiness that the LX comes with its own barrel adjuster. Whew! Good thing Shimano didn't heavy up my XT with one of those! ;-) Well, I'm sad to see it go. It'd've been nice if Shimano had stuck with rapid-rise long enough for it to trickle into the Alivio/Acera product range; then stocking up for their alpaca lips would've only cost $15-$20 apiece! Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 3, 12:22 am, Allan in Portland wrote: > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. Nothing beats > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > I totally agree, and I think therein lies the problem. They don't work > right with regular indexed shifters. I road a friends bike with a RR > derailer and brifters. It was kind of fun cresting a hill and being > able to down shift 3 cogs at a once, but going up a hill or coming to > an unexpected stop, it was *really* annoying and painfully slow up > shifting 1 cog at a click. > > Regards, > -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:55 PM, Mike wrote: > On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. Nothing beats > > 'em with bar-end shifters. > > Vas ist "RR" derailleurs? If that means (somehow) "reverse pull" and someone wants to trade an honest American-type normal pull for a poncey (lovely word!) LX r pull one, let's tawk. I don't like them atall. Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. Nothing beats > 'em with bar-end shifters. > I totally agree, and I think therein lies the problem. They don't work right with regular indexed shifters. I road a friends bike with a RR derailer and brifters. It was kind of fun cresting a hill and being able to down shift 3 cogs at a once, but going up a hill or coming to an unexpected stop, it was *really* annoying and painfully slow up shifting 1 cog at a click. Regards, -Allan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
My short list looks very similar - nice to have choices. On Oct 2, 7:44 am, Justin August wrote: > I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ > Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the > VO Rando frame. > > On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > > > > >my Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > > happening. > > > --mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
On Oct 2, 8:26 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. Nothing beats > 'em with bar-end shifters. Yup, it's a great combo. I'll bet you anything Nashbar or one of those places ends up blowing them out ultra cheap. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
All I can say is I'm stocking up on RR rear derailers. Nothing beats 'em with bar-end shifters. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On Oct 2, 1:30 am, Michael_S wrote: > Grant has posted a lengthy Knothole post about a number of things. > Included is a link to pictures of the San Marcos... very nice looking > IMO. > > http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/364/original_oct1visus.pdf > > ~Mike~ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
It looks good but I am still not sure how I feel about the sloping TT look. I much prefer a straighter TT. On Oct 2, 11:19 am, eflayer wrote: > I recently purchased a Gunnar Sport with custom Waterford threaded > steel fork. The idea was to get to a bike just like the San Marcos. > The Gunnar is gorgeous and rides well, but no lugs and a bit kludgy to > get the 1 inch fork installed into the 1.125 headtube. Love the bike, > but would have probably preferred the "San" instead. Think Grant and > Merry Sales found a nice little empty hole in the marketplace and the > San should fill it just right. My Gunnar with custom steel fork was > $1150, so the price point on the San is just right or even more fair. > > On Oct 2, 8:10 am, eflayer wrote: > > > > > the perfect addition to the Soma Fab and Riv families. Sorta like > > half way between a Smoothie ES and a Sam. Smoothies are fine and > > cheap, but you gotta go modern with shortish headtube and 1.125 > > steerer. The "San" gets you lugs, old school fork/stem technology > > (cool!), I like that barely bent steel fork, and Roadeo-ish geometry. > > Always room for another great idea, collaboration, and more > > traditional steel. Good luck to all involved. I am thinking these > > will be hotcakes in our lifestyle niche. > > > On Oct 2, 7:44 am, Justin August wrote: > > > > I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ > > > Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the > > > VO Rando frame. > > > > On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > > > > > Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > > > > happening. > > > > > --mike- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
I recently purchased a Gunnar Sport with custom Waterford threaded steel fork. The idea was to get to a bike just like the San Marcos. The Gunnar is gorgeous and rides well, but no lugs and a bit kludgy to get the 1 inch fork installed into the 1.125 headtube. Love the bike, but would have probably preferred the "San" instead. Think Grant and Merry Sales found a nice little empty hole in the marketplace and the San should fill it just right. My Gunnar with custom steel fork was $1150, so the price point on the San is just right or even more fair. On Oct 2, 8:10 am, eflayer wrote: > the perfect addition to the Soma Fab and Riv families. Sorta like > half way between a Smoothie ES and a Sam. Smoothies are fine and > cheap, but you gotta go modern with shortish headtube and 1.125 > steerer. The "San" gets you lugs, old school fork/stem technology > (cool!), I like that barely bent steel fork, and Roadeo-ish geometry. > Always room for another great idea, collaboration, and more > traditional steel. Good luck to all involved. I am thinking these > will be hotcakes in our lifestyle niche. > > On Oct 2, 7:44 am, Justin August wrote: > > > > > I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ > > Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the > > VO Rando frame. > > > On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > > > > Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > > > happening. > > > > --mike- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
the perfect addition to the Soma Fab and Riv families. Sorta like half way between a Smoothie ES and a Sam. Smoothies are fine and cheap, but you gotta go modern with shortish headtube and 1.125 steerer. The "San" gets you lugs, old school fork/stem technology (cool!), I like that barely bent steel fork, and Roadeo-ish geometry. Always room for another great idea, collaboration, and more traditional steel. Good luck to all involved. I am thinking these will be hotcakes in our lifestyle niche. On Oct 2, 7:44 am, Justin August wrote: > I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ > Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the > VO Rando frame. > > On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > > > > > Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > > happening. > > > --mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
I could definitely see myself saving up and grabbing one for Spring/ Summer fast rides next year. It's on my shirt list now along with the VO Rando frame. On Oct 2, 8:23 am, Mike wrote: > Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's > happening. > > --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SOMA San Marcos pics up
Yeah, that really is a very nice looking bike. I'm glad it's happening. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
