[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
Well I'll let you all know how the Dureme 50's work on my early green Hillborne. They were shipped out yesterday. Clearly I won't be able to run fenders.. So it will be my mid to late summer configuration. In the fall, the Berthoud 50mm fenders and Pasela TG 37's will go back on. Looking forward to some fast, versatile cush. I'll keep you posted. Jason On Apr 9, 2:31 pm, omnigrid omnig...@gmail.com wrote: I highly recommend vittorria hypers. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jason My Hillborne is an Orange one. I bought it from Riv in December of 2009, and at the time, I think there were some Greens still around in some sizes, but there were no Green 56's. After another pass through my taxes, I've decided that a $150 set of tires for my Hillborne (for which I already have 7 reasonably appropriate pairs of tires) would be an extravagance. Maybe later this spring What are the 7? 1. IRC Mythos knobbies 2. Pasela 37's 3. Jack Browns 4. Soma New Express 32s 5. IRC Tandem 700x30 6. Continental 700x28 7. Roly Poly OK, I admit I'll probably never run the Conti's or the Roly Polys on the Hillborne, and the 37 Paselas are on the tandem at the moment. :) Bill Bill On Apr 9, 9:37 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Bill , Is yours an older green or a new orange Hillborne. I remember when I was at RBW, Keven telling me that the new oranges had a bit more clearance at the chain stays. I purchased the last 56cm guy in the house. So, I know that as far as Hillbornes go...my bike has less room for big tires. Still, I'd like to know that the 50mm Duremes are on a Synergy rim. They may be great as a cush, fast tire with no fender. Currently I'm running 37mm Pasela TG under 50mm Berthoud / SKS fenders. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
I highly recommend vittorria hypers. On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 1:12 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Jason My Hillborne is an Orange one. I bought it from Riv in December of 2009, and at the time, I think there were some Greens still around in some sizes, but there were no Green 56's. After another pass through my taxes, I've decided that a $150 set of tires for my Hillborne (for which I already have 7 reasonably appropriate pairs of tires) would be an extravagance. Maybe later this spring What are the 7? 1. IRC Mythos knobbies 2. Pasela 37's 3. Jack Browns 4. Soma New Express 32s 5. IRC Tandem 700x30 6. Continental 700x28 7. Roly Poly OK, I admit I'll probably never run the Conti's or the Roly Polys on the Hillborne, and the 37 Paselas are on the tandem at the moment. :) Bill Bill On Apr 9, 9:37 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Bill , Is yours an older green or a new orange Hillborne. I remember when I was at RBW, Keven telling me that the new oranges had a bit more clearance at the chain stays. I purchased the last 56cm guy in the house. So, I know that as far as Hillbornes go...my bike has less room for big tires. Still, I'd like to know that the 50mm Duremes are on a Synergy rim. They may be great as a cush, fast tire with no fender. Currently I'm running 37mm Pasela TG under 50mm Berthoud / SKS fenders. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
Bill , Is yours an older green or a new orange Hillborne. I remember when I was at RBW, Keven telling me that the new oranges had a bit more clearance at the chain stays. I purchased the last 56cm guy in the house. So, I know that as far as Hillbornes go...my bike has less room for big tires. Still, I'd like to know that the 50mm Duremes are on a Synergy rim. They may be great as a cush, fast tire with no fender. Currently I'm running 37mm Pasela TG under 50mm Berthoud / SKS fenders. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
Jason My Hillborne is an Orange one. I bought it from Riv in December of 2009, and at the time, I think there were some Greens still around in some sizes, but there were no Green 56's. After another pass through my taxes, I've decided that a $150 set of tires for my Hillborne (for which I already have 7 reasonably appropriate pairs of tires) would be an extravagance. Maybe later this spring What are the 7? 1. IRC Mythos knobbies 2. Pasela 37's 3. Jack Browns 4. Soma New Express 32s 5. IRC Tandem 700x30 6. Continental 700x28 7. Roly Poly OK, I admit I'll probably never run the Conti's or the Roly Polys on the Hillborne, and the 37 Paselas are on the tandem at the moment. :) Bill Bill On Apr 9, 9:37 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Bill , Is yours an older green or a new orange Hillborne. I remember when I was at RBW, Keven telling me that the new oranges had a bit more clearance at the chain stays. I purchased the last 56cm guy in the house. So, I know that as far as Hillbornes go...my bike has less room for big tires. Still, I'd like to know that the 50mm Duremes are on a Synergy rim. They may be great as a cush, fast tire with no fender. Currently I'm running 37mm Pasela TG under 50mm Berthoud / SKS fenders. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
My experience with them is that I've been checking the Riv site for the last several months waiting for them to be in stock. I'm eager to try them too! 40's or 50's for my Hillborne? I'm leaning towards the 40s. On Apr 7, 6:31 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: So not only am I a bet of a bagaholic but I've also got a problem with tires. I see Riv has the Duremes in stock. Who's riding them? How do you like them? I see they're stocking the 700x50 size which seems perfect for Hunqapillars. I'm sort of considering the 40s for my Hilsen. The Duremes seem like a nice all-rounder tire and like they might roll a bit more smoothly than the standard Marathons. Anyone out there have any experience with them? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
I'd love to try the 50's on my Hillborne...but am unsure if they'll fit. Does anyone know? The Supreme 50's measured closer to 45mm...on a Synergy rim..so I'm wondering if it's the same with the Duremes? Can anyone speak to their ride quality? Are they more supple than Marathon's? Good for road and off road? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
jandrews For commentary on their ride quality I'd talk to Jay at Rivendell. Regarding the 40s vs the 50s, here is my thought process. Riv says the 40s measure a true 38.89. So if the 50s are really 10mm wider, that's basically 49mm wide. I took the calipers to my 56cm Hillborne this morning. At the fork blades and the seatstays there's plenty of room. It's the chainstays where it gets a little cozy. I measured 54mm. So maybe 2-2.5mm of clearance on either side. That would work awesome as a baloon tire road bike or for dry trails. But if you tried to mud it up at all, or if you are looking to squeeze fenders around those 50s, it's my opinion that it'll be too tight. If the tires were $40 apiece, I'd buy a set of each for my Hillborne, but at $72 a tire, I'm going to try the 40s first. The trails over the hill from my home in Wildcat Canyon are still pretty muddy, but I want to get an off-road route to my office established by summertime. Once things dry out more, I might go back for a pair of 50s as well. Bill On Apr 7, 7:00 am, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to try the 50's on my Hillborne...but am unsure if they'll fit. Does anyone know? The Supreme 50's measured closer to 45mm...on a Synergy rim..so I'm wondering if it's the same with the Duremes? Can anyone speak to their ride quality? Are they more supple than Marathon's? Good for road and off road? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme
40's seem like they'd be fine for most off road riding on a Hillborne or Hilsen. I guess if you need a bigger tire than that you probably need a different bike. I do wish they were a bit cheaper. --mike- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Supply, and others
catchy web address name. It seems lately with the Pound and Euro down against the dollar that buying from Europe is much more commonplace. I have done it many times. ~Mike~ On Jul 16, 11:06 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying to track down some 28x2.0 Duremes, and it seems even Schwalbe is out, and they have no idea when they'll be in stock again. . other than 8 weeks minimum. Not what I wanted to hear. So, I started looking outside the US, but only found one place that had modest shipping costs. This place is in Belgium.http://bike-parts.at-cost.org/tyres.html They seem to have all Schwalbe tires, including some XR's in 50-622. I'm not sure if I trust them or not, but I may place an order. They only take Paypal for US buyers. Shipping appears to be $20 for two tires. $40 for up to five. I thought I'd pass it along , as I know some have wanted some XR's . Buy at your own risk I suppose. But if you need some like I do . I don't know maybe. It appears legit, but don't they all. -cheers -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
I don't know if this has been discussed here but the Dureme is to be the replacement for the soon to be discontinued XR. http://www.crazyguyonabike.com/forum/board/message/?o=RrzKjthread_id=139958v=Bpage=1nested=0#140097 The Scwalbe global site already has the XR off the site. http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/produkte/tour_city/produkt/?ID_Einsatzbereich=9showAllProducts=true The Dureme appears to be a Marathon Supreme with different thread the materials and construction are the same Evolution line,Double Defense(Snakeskin sidewalls). By doing this I suppose they can cut down on manufacturing cost. It weighs a whopping 245 grams less the XR(28x2.0). but of course there's no free lunch here.. it won't be as durable as the XR as there is just less sidewall protection and tread. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
I feel this morning the need to clarify something. I know Ken, and he is a much better, stronger, faster rider than I will ever be. His observations are probably the correct ones. As my opinion is based on not being a real serious rider, it's not worth anything. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 8:09 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: And I'm the exact opposite, love the 700x40 Supreme and rarely, if ever, think about going back to Pasela tires. The Pasela 35s seem too narrow to me now. And didn't have a reliable enough source for the 37s to really use them. Now, the 26x47 Supremes are a different story. Those do seem too narrow and why I'm putting Big Apples back on the Atlantis. But am sure those tires do not help me ride my bike any faster. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 7:35 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. Depends on where you are riding and the purpose of the ride. First, I disagree with your assessment of the Supremes. I have them on my Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road and feel they ride well. If the Dureme is meant to replace the XR, it seems its design has two purposes. Probably most buyers will be people who are looking to do self supported tours on mixed surfaces in the first world or in the developing world. When your bike is already laden with camping and cooking gear, water, etc., etc., it is very nice to keep your spare tire load to a minimum. Moreover, having to change tires multiple times in a ride when you have to make 75 miles or not have a decent source of h2o or a place to sleep can be quite a hazard. Some subset of Dureme buyers will be riders in cities such as Detroit and New Orleans which unfortunately have many streets that would not look out of place on the Moon. I and several of my friends in Chicago have ridden Kojaks for several years without flats. I imagine that would not be the case in cities with less money to spend maintainng and cleaning the streets. In my opinion, Schwalbe among its competitors does better mixing durability and rideability. On Oct 22, 7:35 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
On Oct 23, 1:50 am, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: They probably are...but, then I've got to change fenders, or frame! the 650b grand bois cypres is worth it too. at my weight (155lbs.), the cypres is plenty big and comfortable and i find it to be a lighter, sportier tire compared to the hetre. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
just read a bit on the Schwalbe site, they just mention the duremo to close a gap in the marathon line, the new xrs are these http://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/startseite/?gesamt=438flash=1ID_Land=38ID_Sprache=2ID_Seite=126PHPSESSID=eb0324b90db20f94e42b56515984f097 Marathon extreme and -plustour Gunnar On Oct 23, 3:16 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. Depends on where you are riding and the purpose of the ride. First, I disagree with your assessment of the Supremes. I have them on my Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road and feel they ride well. If the Dureme is meant to replace the XR, it seems its design has two purposes. Probably most buyers will be people who are looking to do self supported tours on mixed surfaces in the first world or in the developing world. When your bike is already laden with camping and cooking gear, water, etc., etc., it is very nice to keep your spare tire load to a minimum. Moreover, having to change tires multiple times in a ride when you have to make 75 miles or not have a decent source of h2o or a place to sleep can be quite a hazard. Some subset of Dureme buyers will be riders in cities such as Detroit and New Orleans which unfortunately have many streets that would not look out of place on the Moon. I and several of my friends in Chicago have ridden Kojaks for several years without flats. I imagine that would not be the case in cities with less money to spend maintainng and cleaning the streets. In my opinion, Schwalbe among its competitors does better mixing durability and rideability. On Oct 22, 7:35 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
Good. The more choices the better. I was going with Garth's report above on cancelling the XR. On Oct 23, 12:38 pm, gunnara gunn...@gmx.de wrote: just read a bit on the Schwalbe site, they just mention the duremo to close a gap in the marathon line, the new xrs are thesehttp://www.schwalbe.com/gbl/en/startseite/?gesamt=438flash=1ID_Land... Marathon extreme and -plustour Gunnar On Oct 23, 3:16 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. Depends on where you are riding and the purpose of the ride. First, I disagree with your assessment of the Supremes. I have them on my Bruce Gordon Rock 'n Road and feel they ride well. If the Dureme is meant to replace the XR, it seems its design has two purposes. Probably most buyers will be people who are looking to do self supported tours on mixed surfaces in the first world or in the developing world. When your bike is already laden with camping and cooking gear, water, etc., etc., it is very nice to keep your spare tire load to a minimum. Moreover, having to change tires multiple times in a ride when you have to make 75 miles or not have a decent source of h2o or a place to sleep can be quite a hazard. Some subset of Dureme buyers will be riders in cities such as Detroit and New Orleans which unfortunately have many streets that would not look out of place on the Moon. I and several of my friends in Chicago have ridden Kojaks for several years without flats. I imagine that would not be the case in cities with less money to spend maintainng and cleaning the streets. In my opinion, Schwalbe among its competitors does better mixing durability and rideability. On Oct 22, 7:35 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
Something tells me the Schwalbe isn't going to cost a paycheck, though... - Original Message - From: Patrick in VT To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
+1 on the 650b for these, and in ~40 width too. On Oct 22, 12:14 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Something tells me the Schwalbe isn't going to cost a paycheck, though... - Original Message - From: Patrick in VT To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
the new schwalbe will probably be at least $50. not what I consider inexpensive, especially for a tire that isn't performance oriented. in any event, quality tires are worth every cent. in fact, I'm not aware of another component that can enhance the ride like fast rolling, comfortable, good handling tires. On Oct 22, 12:14 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Something tells me the Schwalbe isn't going to cost a paycheck, though... - Original Message - From: Patrick in VT To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
I'm waiting for a Big Apple 650B in 50mm and 60mm. That would be fun for my Rawland, and useful for Bombadil riders, too. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Oct 22, 12:52 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: the new schwalbe will probably be at least $50. not what I consider inexpensive, especially for a tire that isn't performance oriented. in any event, quality tires are worth every cent. in fact, I'm not aware of another component that can enhance the ride like fast rolling, comfortable, good handling tires. On Oct 22, 12:14 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Something tells me the Schwalbe isn't going to cost a paycheck, though... - Original Message - From: Patrick in VT To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
the new schwalbe will probably be at least $50. not what I consider inexpensive, especially for a tire that isn't performance oriented. in any event, quality tires are worth every cent. in fact, I'm not aware of another component that can enhance the ride like fast rolling, comfortable, good handling tires. I like nice comfortable tires and in fact am having a bike made specifically so it can accommodate Hetres. That said, I think it is wrong to discount the value Schwalbe tires. The Schwalbe Marathon line is built to last yet provide reasonably smooth riding and handling. In my opinion, Schwalbes meet the challenge as well as any tire manufacturer. I used Marathon Supremes with excellent results on three tours this year. I have not had near the good luck with Continentals as I have with Schwalbe. Armadillos are pretty sturdy, but the tires - at least 4 or 5 years back when I last used them - deliver a harsh and disconnected ride. Moreover, while neither are available in 650b, it is also my opinion that Schwalbe Kojaks and Big Apples provide have high levels of performance, comfort and handling. On Oct 22, 2:52 pm, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote: the new schwalbe will probably be at least $50. not what I consider inexpensive, especially for a tire that isn't performance oriented. in any event, quality tires are worth every cent. in fact, I'm not aware of another component that can enhance the ride like fast rolling, comfortable, good handling tires. On Oct 22, 12:14 pm, David Faller dfal...@charter.net wrote: Something tells me the Schwalbe isn't going to cost a paycheck, though... - Original Message - From: Patrick in VT To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 9:12 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire On Oct 22, 11:37 am, Rocky B luggedsteel.fatti...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Schwalbe has a new model out:http://www.schwalbetires.com/marathon_dureme It definitely looks like a dream tire. I really hope they make a 650B size. Kirk Pacenti has a 650b x 38ish (hopefully) tire in the works. Grand Bois also has a 650b x 38 in the works - a baby Hetre of sorts. both will be available next year. if your bike can fit a 38-42, i'd consider these before a schwalbe if you're after a dream ride.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:52 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: I have not had near the good luck with Continentals as I have with Schwalbe. Armadillos are pretty sturdy, but the tires - at least 4 or 5 years back when I last used them - deliver a harsh and disconnected ride. They still do that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
On Oct 22, 4:52 pm, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: That said, I think it is wrong to discount the value Schwalbe tires. I'm not discounting the value of Schwalbes at all. in fact, i think marathons a good value - they last forever and are as durable as anything out there. i have some marathon racers that just won't quit. personally, GB/Challenge/etc. fit my riding needs and preferences better, so I'd rather drop bills on those. different strokes and all ... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
I find the selection of sizes rather odd. The 26 only comes in one size, 2 or 51 mm, while the 700c begins at 35 (1 3/8) and goes up. I have a custom tandem on order from Bilenkey, which is deigned around the 26 x 1.5 Marathon Racer. Apparently this new tire will not be an alternative to that. Michael PS, my back is steadily improving and if it weren't 40 degrees and raining I might actually try getting back on my bike for the first time since early Aug.. On Oct 22, 4:58 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 13:52 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: I have not had near the good luck with Continentals as I have with Schwalbe. Armadillos are pretty sturdy, but the tires - at least 4 or 5 years back when I last used them - deliver a harsh and disconnected ride. They still do that. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
And I'm the exact opposite, love the 700x40 Supreme and rarely, if ever, think about going back to Pasela tires. The Pasela 35s seem too narrow to me now. And didn't have a reliable enough source for the 37s to really use them. Now, the 26x47 Supremes are a different story. Those do seem too narrow and why I'm putting Big Apples back on the Atlantis. But am sure those tires do not help me ride my bike any faster. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 7:35�pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. �They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. �So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. �According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. �Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. �I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. �At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Dureme Tire
They probably are...but, then I've got to change fenders, or frame! Sometimes good enough is good enough..though then what would I spend all my time on the internet looking at? On Oct 22, 10:25 pm, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote: Hetres are worth it. On Oct 22, 10:11 pm, rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com wrote: And from a 650B perspective...I really like the Schwalbe Marathons. I heard lots of complaints about the dead, slow ride but frankly don't feel it. Now I'm switching from Col de la Vies so take that for what it's worth, but to me the Schwalbes are way better. You don't have to spend an hour trying to set the bead, they don't flat (least not yet), they feel fine on the road, and the black sidewalls actually grow on you (I know, I never thought I'd admit to that!!!). I might buy some Hetres just to see what all the fuss is about, but I've already purchased a big enough stock of Marathons to last until the next great tire size comes along. On Oct 22, 6:09 pm, EricP ericpl...@aol.com wrote: And I'm the exact opposite, love the 700x40 Supreme and rarely, if ever, think about going back to Pasela tires. The Pasela 35s seem too narrow to me now. And didn't have a reliable enough source for the 37s to really use them. Now, the 26x47 Supremes are a different story. Those do seem too narrow and why I'm putting Big Apples back on the Atlantis. But am sure those tires do not help me ride my bike any faster. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Oct 22, 7:35 pm, Ken Yokanovich reflector.collec...@gmail.com wrote: I road a set of Marathon Supremes in the 700x42 thinking that they would be bigger, rounder, and have that wonderful go-plump feel. I had hoped that they would have the ride characteristics of a larger Pasela. They wore like iron, but weren't the wonderful ride. So, I don't get what's so wonderful to be about the Dureme to be. According to their chart, less speed, slightly more durable, heavier, more expensive. Don't get me wrong, Schwalbe makes A LOT of tires and lots of choices and that's great. I'm just not willing to sacrifice the ride characteristics for durability. At the price point, I'm not interested in dropping $150 to experiment. I LOVE my Jack Browns, I'm waiting for Jack's larger cousin in a large volume, light weight 622bsd by about 38 tire. It'd be the PERFECT tire IMHO for the Atlantis.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
