subject:"\[RBW\] Re\: Show Me Your Atlantis\!"

Bob,

Thank you Sir. It was a fun parts picking process. My favorite bits are the
vintage XTR bits and the Cerakote Nitto Seatpost and stem adapter.

Hugh

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 7:46 PM stoker  wrote:

> Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it
> was a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and
> love the orange!
>
> Bob
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Stoker,
>>
>> Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:
>>
>>> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
>>> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Morning Bill,

 And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to
 build was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty
 quick. I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
 helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.

 Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
 particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
 and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.

 I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors
 of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But
 it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
 completely different from my road Atlantis.

 Cheers!

 Hugh


 On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford 
 wrote:

> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the
> wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It
> appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would
> work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon!
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Howdy Atlantis Folks,

 Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
 Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
 MUP
 today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not 
 sure the
 Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

 https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham
 wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
> Atlantis.
> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
> like
> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-13 Thread stoker

Hi Hugh - it’s not a recent pic - it was taken around 2005 or 06, so it was 
a few years old. Really dig your new Atlantis. Great parts pick and love 
the orange! 

Bob
On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 9:05:04 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Stoker,
>
> Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:
>
>> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
>> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>>
>> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>>
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Morning Bill,
>>>
>>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build 
>>> was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick. 
>>> I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and 
>>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>>
>>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and 
>>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle 
>>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>>
>>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors 
>>> of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But 
>>> it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides 
>>> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> Hugh 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:
>>>
 I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the 
 wait! Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It 
 appears maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would 
 work. But it certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!

 On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Thanks Jon!
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  
> wrote:
>
>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>
>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River 
>>> MUP 
>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure 
>>> the 
>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rivy Peps,

 There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
 rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
 all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
 Atlantis. 
 Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
 like 
 wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!

 Let's have some fun!

 Hugh Smiitham
 Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Stoker,

Is that a recent picture? It looks pristine. I dig the Ibis stem..

Hugh

On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 2:27 PM stoker  wrote:

> My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
> Great to see all the terrific builds!
>
> https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Morning Bill,
>>
>> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build
>> was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick.
>> I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
>> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>>
>> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
>> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
>> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>>
>> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors
>> of mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But
>> it is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
>> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:
>>
>>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait!
>>> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears
>>> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it
>>> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jon!

 On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:

> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP
>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure 
>> the
>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>> Atlantis.
>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>> like
>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Matt,

Didn't even consider the Joker connection. Fortunately,  it's mostly orange
with a bit of purple and a hint of green. I would definitely get a bike
frame in Purple, maybe the next one? Although the Grey and Kidney bean
Hungapillar is epic.

Hugh


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 8:20 AM Matt Beecher  wrote:

> Neat bike.  Orange and purple always reminds me of the Joker, though I am
> not a big fan of the character.  I've thought about getting a bike
> repainted in purple and orange for a few years, though I have not decided
> on which shades to use.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:28:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
>> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
>> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
>> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-13 Thread stoker

My 58cm from the first run. Pretty sure it was the end of 2000?
Great to see all the terrific builds!

https://flic.kr/p/pPczv2

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 12:12:38 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Morning Bill,
>
> And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build 
> was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick. 
> I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and 
> helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.
>
> Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and 
> particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle 
> and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.
>
> I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors of 
> mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But it 
> is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides 
> completely different from my road Atlantis.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Hugh 
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:
>
>> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait! 
>> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears 
>> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it 
>> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>>
>> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jon!
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>>
 That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!


 On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>
> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP 
> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure 
> the 
> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
>> needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
>> for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
>> of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Morning Bill,

And happy spring. Life's been busy these days so the final push to build
was constantly delayed,  once I peeled some time off it went pretty quick.
I spent some time prepping the frame previously with frame saver and
helicopter tape in the vulnerable areas since it will see dirt and rocks.

Regarding tire size, it is maxed out. Especially in the rear and
particularly because of the motolites, they're a great brake but the noodle
and straddle cable sit pretty low. The tires are 650b x2.2.

I appreciate the praise,  orange, purple and green are favorites colors of
mine and yeah it does work.  I have only ridden it 9 miles on a MUP  But it
is very fun to ride. Maybe because of the tire choice but it rides
completely different from my road Atlantis.

Cheers!

Hugh


On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 4:48 AM Bill Fulford  wrote:

> I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait!
> Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears
> maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it
> certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!
>
> On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon!
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>>
>>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>>
 Howdy Atlantis Folks,

 Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off.
 Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP
 today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the
 Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

 https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-13 Thread Matt Beecher

Neat bike.  Orange and purple always reminds me of the Joker, though I am 
not a big fan of the character.  I've thought about getting a bike 
repainted in purple and orange for a few years, though I have not decided 
on which shades to use.  

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL

On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:28:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>
> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished 
> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and 
> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map 
> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-13 Thread Bill Fulford

I’ve been waiting for this bike to show up and it’s been worth the wait! 
Very impressive. I like the Atlantis with big tires, what size? It appears 
maxed. I never would have thought that orange and purple would work. But it 
certainly has. That looks like a very fun bike to ride!

On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:23:49 AM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Thanks Jon!
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:
>
>> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>>
>>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. 
>>> Finished the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP 
>>> today and did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the 
>>> Map Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>>
>>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rivy Peps,

 There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
 so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
 some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
 close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
 course want to see a nice portrait too!

 Let's have some fun!

 Hugh Smiitham
 Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Thanks Jon!

On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:39 PM Jon Dukeman  wrote:

> That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
>> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>>
>> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
>> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
>> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
>> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>>
>> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-12 Thread Jon Dukeman

That's a beautiful build Hugh!!!


On Sat, Mar 12, 2022, 7:29 PM Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Howdy Atlantis Folks,
>
> Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished
> the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and
> did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map
> Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2022-03-12 Thread Hugh Smitham

Howdy Atlantis Folks,

Been a while but I'm finally ready to show my Orange'Lantis off. Finished 
the build last night and took it for a spin on the LA River MUP today and 
did a little photo shoot. Beautiful day all and all. Not sure the Map 
Ahearn bars will stay but here it is in all it's Orangey glory.

https://flic.kr/s/aHsmX5PDmW

Hugh

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-24 Thread CapNMike

Mike, I love the photos and your Atlantis build. I have a Waterford 
Atlantis and hoping to add metal fenders. Can you share the size of your 
fenders and tires?  I'm currently running 700x55 tires and clearance 
doesn't allow fenders.

Cheers,

Mike

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 2:40:38 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso 
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike 
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding 
> them that way. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love 
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in 
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was 
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally 
>> riding it. 
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I 
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers 
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more 
>> and wheelsize was 650b. 
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it. 
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put 
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for 
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope 
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't 
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
 Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b 
 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the 
 build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-23 Thread Hugh Smitham

Mike,

You just got back from El Paso Mtn?

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 9:46 PM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> ar, ar Doug. No, IIRC it was slipping rim tape. I got two flats on the
> ride, none from rocks.
>
> Just got back from their, cut trip a day short. The wind was horrendous.
>
> Mike SLO CA
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 4:46:43 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Mike:
>>
>> Was it a "snakebite puncture"?
>>
>> Looks like a couple of other Atlantis' I've seen in SLO.
>>
>> DougP
>>
>> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>>
>>> Howdy
>>> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso
>>> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike
>>> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding
>>> them that way.
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>>
 I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also
 love seeing them in other colors.
 That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match
 wonderfully.
 Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in
 general.
 I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.

 Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I
 was emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally
 riding it.
 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I
 stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers
 aren't indexed.
 Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had
 more and wheelsize was 650b.
 I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for
 it. He is generous.

 I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put
 up a post. A bag up front too ...
 So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for
 the Atlantis.
 I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope
 thats it. Tubeless.
 I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it
 didn't feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
 Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.

 -Matthew P
 San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.

 [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]


 On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too
>
> Hugh
>
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>
>> Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b
>> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
>> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-23 Thread Mike Godwin

ar, ar Doug. No, IIRC it was slipping rim tape. I got two flats on the 
ride, none from rocks. 

Just got back from their, cut trip a day short. The wind was horrendous. 

Mike SLO CA 

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 4:46:43 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Mike:
>
> Was it a "snakebite puncture"?
>
> Looks like a couple of other Atlantis' I've seen in SLO.
>
> DougP
>
> On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:
>
>> Howdy
>> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso 
>> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike 
>> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding 
>> them that way. 
>>
>> Mike SLO CA
>> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>>
>>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love 
>>> seeing them in other colors.
>>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in 
>>> general.
>>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>>
>>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was 
>>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally 
>>> riding it. 
>>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I 
>>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers 
>>> aren't indexed.
>>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more 
>>> and wheelsize was 650b. 
>>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for 
>>> it. He is generous.
>>>
>>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put 
>>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for 
>>> the Atlantis.
>>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope 
>>> thats it. Tubeless.
>>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it 
>>> didn't feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>>
>>> -Matthew P
>>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too 

 Hugh

 On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:

> Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b 
> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the 
> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-22 Thread dougP

Mike:

Was it a "snakebite puncture"?

Looks like a couple of other Atlantis' I've seen in SLO.

DougP

On Friday, October 22, 2021 at 11:40:38 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso 
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike 
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding 
> them that way. 
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love 
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in 
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was 
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally 
>> riding it. 
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I 
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers 
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more 
>> and wheelsize was 650b. 
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it. 
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put 
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for 
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope 
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't 
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
 Photos from this evening's inaugural ride on a new-to-me 56cm 650b 
 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the 
 build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-22 Thread Hugh Smitham

Mike,

I love these images! Your Atlantis is such a great build. I'd really like
to see a .gpx track of your route or any way you can share.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein






On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 11:40 AM Mike Godwin  wrote:

> Howdy
> here are a few of mine, a side view riding locally, and two from El Paso
> Mts, with a flat repair at Sheep Springs. My first foot down from the bike
> to fix the flat was right next to a rattlesnake. I have a habit of finding
> them that way.
>
> Mike SLO CA
> On Tuesday, October 19, 2021 at 10:50:58 AM UTC-7 Matthew P wrote:
>
>> I love the russian submarine green paint of the atlantis and i also love
>> seeing them in other colors.
>> That gray one is great. I think the dull bronze pieces match wonderfully.
>> Fantastic root beer paint. Maybe my favorite bike color, or brown in
>> general.
>> I too saw that lilac one hanging in rafters in a garage/workspace post.
>>
>> Here's my 58 cm Toyo. I love it for the curved chainstays. I think I was
>> emailing with Doug P and he pointed that out to me. Doug, I'm finally
>> riding it.
>> 2 x 11 drivetrain. I could probably do without the 11 speed cassette. I
>> stupidly thought it needed to match the clutch rear derailer, but derailers
>> aren't indexed.
>> Favorite part: the clearance. Its why I got the bike. I wish it had more
>> and wheelsize was 650b.
>> I also really love the Simworks Stealth seatpost. Traded a friend for it.
>> He is generous.
>>
>> I need to fine tune the cables/housing, put on the dyno lights, the put
>> up a post. A bag up front too ...
>> So far I like the Bullmoose bars. I think they are very appropriate for
>> the Atlantis.
>> I just remounted the 29 x 2.2" Maxxis Ikons on it yesterday and I hope
>> thats it. Tubeless.
>> I was riding it with 42 mm Soma Shikoros and it felt zippy. But it didn't
>> feel right to not have wider tires on this bike.
>> Maybe a 2"/50cm commuter tire/wheelset for would be nice.
>>
>> -Matthew P
>> San Diego, CA. Kumeyaay Land.
>>
>> [image: IMG_20211013_181057.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 7:20:56 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:
>>>
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 Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-18 Thread Hugh Smitham

That was quick! Looks good Erik. Nice backdrop too

Hugh

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021, 7:05 PM Erik  wrote:

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> Atlantis.  This replaced my 53cm.  The fit is much, much better but the
> build is pretty much the same as the previous bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-18 Thread Ron Frazelle

Great build and a total 'beaut, Max!

Ron Frazelle
Anaheim, Ca.

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 7:10 AM reynoldslugs  wrote:

> Here you go, Hugh - flickr album of my Atlantis:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157696979339224
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:40:49 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-18 Thread reynoldslugs

Here you go, Hugh - flickr album of my Atlantis:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157696979339224

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA

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> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-18 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne

Apologies for the self reply, but upon further review I now see where you 
mentioned the rack:
*'I love my Motolites, infinite ability to set them up, easy to get your 
wheel out, like you say no deflation. They have great stopping power and 
look great. The only issue I have with them is that they interfere with 
fork crown mounting of a fixed campee rack. I had a 32F campy rack with 
detachable lowrider pannier mounts I had to return. Obviously a Mark's rack 
will work.'*

I still have some of the same questions posed above, and you obviously may 
not have details or responses since it appears you no longer have the rack 
at this time.  It's funny, the exact issue you describe with the Motolites 
interfering with the 32f (and note correction to my above usage of F32 vs 
32F!) are the same that had me set the 32f aside since my Clem H has the 
stock v-brakes and the noodle/cable passed directly in front of the crown 
bolt hole and in the patch of the center strut of the 32f rack.

I eventually found an alternate use for the 32f Campee rack on a disc 650b 
fork project but have some CX70 canti's in reserve for the Clem if/whenever 
I decide to do some additional parts swapping and would then reconsider 
another 32f for the Clem at that point, hence my curiosity regarding this 
model with detachable lowriders.

I'll likely want the convenience of a basket and therefore the wider 
platform of something like the Pass & Stow for the Clem, but still 
considering all options.  I also have an R14 left over from a prior project 
that I'm more likely to use in the interim for a front basket support on 
the Clem using the two top of crown bolts and upper dropout mounts.

On Monday, October 18, 2021 at 6:59:28 AM UTC-4 Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:

> I do not own an Atlantis but have otherwise been greatly enjoying this 
> thread and all the different builds, so thank you all!
> I do own a 65cm Clem H which had started as a stock complete and has since 
> received various changes/customizations with a few more on the horizon.  
> Eventually, I hope to better document it's evolution but I've been mostly 
> an inactive observer on the forum as of late.
>
> Hugh, unless I've overlooked prior discussion on the Nitto rack or a post 
> was deleted... are there any other details you'd be able to provide the the 
> rack you've attached a photo?  It appears to be based off an F32 mini with 
> removable side rails/supports and lowrider rails.  I think I've seen this 
> once before (maybe your original IG post or elsewhere... I did/do follow 
> you in IG but had removed the app from my phone as part of a personal media 
> moratorium so kind of intentionally living under a rock these days.)
>
> I have an f32 on another bike as a top rack along with a Tubus Tara 
> lowrider and no immediate reason to change, but I'm admittedly intrigued at 
> the idea of a couple F32's mounted to different bikes with ability to move 
> the added rails/supports to either one.  It seems these rails are likely 
> sized for a specific wheel size or fork length but curious to find out more 
> info if available (i.e. model # for the entire set? or whether the bolt on 
> parts are the same as from other racks or may be acquired a la carte? are 
> the triangulated side rails meant to attach at an upper eyelet?)
>
> I have one F32 on a 650b sized fork but running 700x33 and the theoretical 
> 2nd F32 would go on the much larger Clem H so guessing the fork sizes would 
> rule out swapping for the non-adjustable pieces but guess I'm equally 
> curious what size wheel/fork this exact rack might fit? 
>
> I've previously considered saving for a Pass and Stow but obviously 
> curious about the potential to expand on an F32 as a base/minimalist rack 
> with add-ons, allowing one bike to be more stripped down but still able to 
> carry a bag or something while the other could take heavier loads and front 
> panniers for bigger grocery or errand runs.
>
> Best,
> Brian Cole
> Lawrence NJ
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:37:01 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Sorry forgot the attached pictures. The second one is the rack.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:42 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>> Responses to your questions:
>>> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at 
>>> https://steerstopper.com
>>> 2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from 
>>> the manufacturer in the UK.
>>> 3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction 
>>> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more 
>>> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to 
>>> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the 
>>> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>>> 4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same 
>>> time, I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a 
>>> close to normal position.  Boscos (an

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-18 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne

I do not own an Atlantis but have otherwise been greatly enjoying this 
thread and all the different builds, so thank you all!
I do own a 65cm Clem H which had started as a stock complete and has since 
received various changes/customizations with a few more on the horizon.  
Eventually, I hope to better document it's evolution but I've been mostly 
an inactive observer on the forum as of late.

Hugh, unless I've overlooked prior discussion on the Nitto rack or a post 
was deleted... are there any other details you'd be able to provide the the 
rack you've attached a photo?  It appears to be based off an F32 mini with 
removable side rails/supports and lowrider rails.  I think I've seen this 
once before (maybe your original IG post or elsewhere... I did/do follow 
you in IG but had removed the app from my phone as part of a personal media 
moratorium so kind of intentionally living under a rock these days.)

I have an f32 on another bike as a top rack along with a Tubus Tara 
lowrider and no immediate reason to change, but I'm admittedly intrigued at 
the idea of a couple F32's mounted to different bikes with ability to move 
the added rails/supports to either one.  It seems these rails are likely 
sized for a specific wheel size or fork length but curious to find out more 
info if available (i.e. model # for the entire set? or whether the bolt on 
parts are the same as from other racks or may be acquired a la carte? are 
the triangulated side rails meant to attach at an upper eyelet?)

I have one F32 on a 650b sized fork but running 700x33 and the theoretical 
2nd F32 would go on the much larger Clem H so guessing the fork sizes would 
rule out swapping for the non-adjustable pieces but guess I'm equally 
curious what size wheel/fork this exact rack might fit? 

I've previously considered saving for a Pass and Stow but obviously curious 
about the potential to expand on an F32 as a base/minimalist rack with 
add-ons, allowing one bike to be more stripped down but still able to carry 
a bag or something while the other could take heavier loads and front 
panniers for bigger grocery or errand runs.

Best,
Brian Cole
Lawrence NJ

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:37:01 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Sorry forgot the attached pictures. The second one is the rack.
>
> Hugh
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:42 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>> Responses to your questions:
>> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at 
>> https://steerstopper.com
>> 2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from 
>> the manufacturer in the UK.
>> 3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction 
>> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more 
>> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to 
>> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the 
>> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>> 4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same 
>> time, I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a 
>> close to normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are 
>> more of a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or 
>> completely flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.  
>> Again, the Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style 
>> bars.  I'm the outlier here.
>> 5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width 
>> needed to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats, 
>> which I very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make 
>> this pretty easy without deflating the tire.  By the way, I only inflate 
>> the tires to 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh about 200#. With the length of 
>> the chain stays, the low pressure tires, and the geometry, It's like riding 
>> in a 1962 Chevy Impala and for me, that's really good.
>> Best,
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>>
 Hugh,

 I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've 
 attached photos in partial response.  To start:

>>>
>>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an 
>>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>>

 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a 
 Steer Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I 
 use it in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  
 It's so much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I 
 transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much 
 easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.

>>>
>>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps 
>>> you can let us know

[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-16 Thread Joe Bernard

Indeed that's the recently departed Large Saddlesack, if memory serves it's 
actually two separate pockets on either front-side. And I'm just now 
realizing the current Baggabond doesn't have them. 

Joe Bernard
On Saturday, October 16, 2021 at 4:25:37 PM UTC-7 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jim. S -- I've never seen a Sackville with a zippered pocket across the 
> back like that. Neat iteration!
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 12:08:59 PM UTC-4 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I'm really enjoying this thread. Here's my repainted Atlantis 
>> getting the obligatory Bixby Creek Bridge photo.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:23:25 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Hugh,
>>>
>>> Here's my Toyo Atlantis (maybe 2005). New to me last Summer, and a 
>>> really enjoyable bike to ride. Cheers.
>>> [image: DSCN3374.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:33:38 PM UTC+9 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Rusty,

 That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at  
 Spank Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun. 
 Your using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
 Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity 
 Deftrap pedals, I see why you passed. 

 Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.

 Best Regards,

 Hugh  

 On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:

> Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at 
> RAGBRAI 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River 
> Trail 
> just last month.
> The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration 
> which I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the 
> current, Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and 
> brakes to replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because 
> I 
> couldn't afford another penny for the Black Kats!  
>
> I'll try to send one at a time.
> [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
>> needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
>> for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
>> of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-16 Thread Eric Marth

Jim. S -- I've never seen a Sackville with a zippered pocket across the 
back like that. Neat iteration!

On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 12:08:59 PM UTC-4 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi all, I'm really enjoying this thread. Here's my repainted Atlantis 
> getting the obligatory Bixby Creek Bridge photo.
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:23:25 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Hugh,
>>
>> Here's my Toyo Atlantis (maybe 2005). New to me last Summer, and a really 
>> enjoyable bike to ride. Cheers.
>> [image: DSCN3374.jpeg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:33:38 PM UTC+9 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Rusty,
>>>
>>> That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at  
>>> Spank Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun. 
>>> Your using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
>>> Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity 
>>> Deftrap pedals, I see why you passed. 
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:
>>>
 Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at 
 RAGBRAI 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River 
 Trail 
 just last month.
 The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration 
 which I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the 
 current, Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and 
 brakes to replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because I 
 couldn't afford another penny for the Black Kats!  

 I'll try to send one at a time.
 [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
> needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
> for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
> of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-13 Thread Hugh Smitham

That second one is iconic, especially with the fog. Nice capture Doug!

Hugh

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 4:10 PM dougP  wrote:

> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:09:02 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:
>
>> Have a couple of bridges to share.
>>
>> dougP
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-13 Thread Hugh Smitham

Jim,

Looks to be a root beer color? Looks great! Love that route. A used
Atlantis is a happy Atlantis :)

Best,

Hugh

On Wed, Oct 13, 2021, 9:09 AM Jim S.  wrote:

> Hi all, I'm really enjoying this thread. Here's my repainted Atlantis
> getting the obligatory Bixby Creek Bridge photo.
>
> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 4:23:25 AM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hey Hugh,
>>
>> Here's my Toyo Atlantis (maybe 2005). New to me last Summer, and a really
>> enjoyable bike to ride. Cheers.
>> [image: DSCN3374.jpeg]
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 13, 2021 at 3:33:38 PM UTC+9 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Rusty,
>>>
>>> That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at
>>> Spank Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun.
>>> Your using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
>>> Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity
>>> Deftrap pedals, I see why you passed.
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:
>>>
 Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at
 RAGBRAI 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River Trail
 just last month.
 The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration
 which I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the
 current, Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and
 brakes to replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because I
 couldn't afford another penny for the Black Kats!

 I'll try to send one at a time.
 [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Rusty,

That's a handsome Atlantis you have there. I need to take a look at  Spank 
Flare bar. The second picture is great, the river trail sounds fun. Your 
using your Atlantis for what it was intended a great all-rounder rig.
Black Kats are a good looking pedal but twice as much as the  Deity Deftrap 
pedals, I see why you passed. 

Thanks for sharing and many happy miles to you and that steed.

Best Regards,

Hugh  

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 2:08:36 PM UTC-7 Rusty Click wrote:

> Here is my 2019 62 Waterford Atlantis in its bare travel mode at RAGBRAI 
> 2021, and loaded down for a four day ride on Greenbriar River Trail just 
> last month.
> The original Riv cockpit was replaced with a Jones bar configuration which 
> I just could not get comfortable with and replaced that with the current, 
> Analog suggested Spank Flare bars with new V brake levers and brakes to 
> replace the canti's.  The pedals are now Deity Deftrap because I couldn't 
> afford another penny for the Black Kats!  
>
> I'll try to send one at a time.
> [image: IMG_4256.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 1:40:49 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 10:42:01 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

>
> I guess that's you name? What a well thought out build. I absolutely love 
> that 1st gen XTR drive. Pretty sweet older hubs the polished silver looks 
> so good. I like the be seen friction (I presume) dyno rear light. I don't 
> like dyno wiring running to the rear just ugly and a pain. I had a campee 
> front rack like that but it doesn't play well with v-brakes so it was a no 
> go.
>

Hugh, that Magnic rear dynamo light is contactless 
. You have to run it 
about as close as your brake pads, so good wheel trueness is needed to make 
it work.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard

Hugh,

No worries, I'm always reading, I just don't own an Atlantis and hadn't had 
anything to say. This is my new thing, only talk when I have something to 
talk about! 😂

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 12:53:08 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Joe,
>
> Thanks for lurking and weighing in cuz I know you know some history there 
> buddy. I mean no disrespect on the lurking,  more of an affectionate jab. 
>
> Best,
>
> Hugh
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 12:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
>> Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was 
>> - probably still is - an option to order a custom color on any Riv. Most of 
>> them were/are done by Rick Stefani (D&D Painting) in the Bay Area, plus 
>> it's possible some Waterford frames were done at Waterford. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Gabriel,
>>>
>>> This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the 
>>> opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the 
>>> early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always 
>>> been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain 
>>> because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was 
 one of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the 
 Brand Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it 
 powder coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint 
 scheme 
 with a cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of 
 metallic flake in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for 
 the bike, and I'm so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it 
 left 
 my stable!!!
 -Gabe

 On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in 
> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was 
> doing bike shifting these days ;) 
>
> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your 
> case possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>
> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Hugh,
>>
>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was 
>> the original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>
>> Such a good bike!
>>
>> Andrew in Denver.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Nus,
>>>
>>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. 
>>> From here it looks like a powder blue?
>>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
  It is, IMO, the 
 Platonic form of bike,





 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham 
 wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
> Atlantis. 
> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
> like 
> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Joe,

Thanks for lurking and weighing in cuz I know you know some history there
buddy. I mean no disrespect on the lurking,  more of an affectionate jab.

Best,

Hugh


On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 12:49 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was
> - probably still is - an option to order a custom color on any Riv. Most of
> them were/are done by Rick Stefani (D&D Painting) in the Bay Area, plus
> it's possible some Waterford frames were done at Waterford.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Gabriel,
>>
>> This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the
>> opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the
>> early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always
>> been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain
>> because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one
>>> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand
>>> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder
>>> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a
>>> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake
>>> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm
>>> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
>>> -Gabe
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Andrew,

 Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in
 any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was
 doing bike shifting these days ;)

 Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your
 case possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.

 Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The
 other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder
 and I think it's design has been proven time and time again.

 Best Regards,

 Hugh

 On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Hugh,
>
> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the
> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of
> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and
> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>
> Such a good bike!
>
> Andrew in Denver.
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Nus,
>>
>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color.
>> From here it looks like a powder blue?
>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using.
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides.
>>>  It is, IMO, the
>>> Platonic form of bike,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rivy Peps,

 There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and
 rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original
 all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
 Atlantis.
 Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
 like
 wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!

 Let's have some fun!

 Hugh Smiitham
 Los Angeles, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Joe Bernard

Yes, all Atlantis runs have been in that celeste-ish color, but there was - 
probably still is - an option to order a custom color on any Riv. Most of 
them were/are done by Rick Stefani (D&D Painting) in the Bay Area, plus 
it's possible some Waterford frames were done at Waterford. 



On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:27:03 AM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Gabriel,
>
> This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the 
> opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the 
> early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always 
> been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain 
> because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier  wrote:
>
>> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one 
>> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand 
>> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder 
>> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a 
>> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake 
>> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm 
>> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
>> -Gabe
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in 
>>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was 
>>> doing bike shifting these days ;) 
>>>
>>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case 
>>> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>>
>>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
>>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
>>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey Hugh,

 It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the 
 original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
 atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
 shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.

 Such a good bike!

 Andrew in Denver.

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Nus,
>
> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From 
> here it looks like a powder blue?
> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
>>  It is, IMO, the 
>> Platonic form of bike,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>> Atlantis. 
>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>> like 
>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread nus...@gmail.com

I believe I've seen a lilac early-run Atlantis which is where I got the 
idea from. Would love confirmation one way or the other!

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:27:03 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Gabriel,
>
> This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the 
> opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the 
> early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always 
> been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain 
> because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier  wrote:
>
>> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one 
>> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand 
>> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder 
>> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a 
>> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake 
>> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm 
>> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
>> -Gabe
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew,
>>>
>>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in 
>>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was 
>>> doing bike shifting these days ;) 
>>>
>>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case 
>>> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>>
>>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
>>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
>>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Hey Hugh,

 It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the 
 original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
 atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
 shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.

 Such a good bike!

 Andrew in Denver.

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Nus,
>
> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From 
> here it looks like a powder blue?
> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 
>
> Hugh
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
>>  It is, IMO, the 
>> Platonic form of bike,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>> Atlantis. 
>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>> like 
>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread nus...@gmail.com

Thanks for the info, Gabe. I knew you'd purchased it from Minneapolis but 
cool to know it was from a higher-up at Surly. The grey powder coat looks 
fantastic in the sun. Hope your Steve Potts trail-bike has served as a good 
replacement!

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 11:10:57 AM UTC-6 Gabriel Bruguier wrote:

> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one 
> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand 
> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder 
> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a 
> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake 
> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm 
> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
> -Gabe
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in 
>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was 
>> doing bike shifting these days ;) 
>>
>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case 
>> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>
>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Hugh,
>>>
>>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the 
>>> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
>>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
>>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>>
>>> Such a good bike!
>>>
>>> Andrew in Denver.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Nus,

 Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From 
 here it looks like a powder blue?
 Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
>  It is, IMO, the 
> Platonic form of bike,
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
>> needs 
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
>> for 
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
>> of 
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Gabriel,

This is awesome, I love a good provenance story. I haven't had the
opportunity to touch base with my Rivendell historian friend about the
early Atlantis color schemes. My understanding was that they have always
been that Russian sub interior color. But hey, I wasn't absolutely certain
because I'm not that much of a Rivendell nerd. Well not yet:)

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 10:11 AM Gabriel Bruguier  wrote:

> Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one
> of the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand
> Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder
> coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a
> cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake
> in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm
> so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
> -Gabe
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Andrew,
>>
>> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in
>> any other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was
>> doing bike shifting these days ;)
>>
>> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case
>> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>>
>> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The
>> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder
>> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Hugh,
>>>
>>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the
>>> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of
>>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and
>>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>>
>>> Such a good bike!
>>>
>>> Andrew in Denver.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Nus,

 Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From
 here it looks like a powder blue?
 Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using.

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides.
>  It is, IMO, the
> Platonic form of bike,
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly
>> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
>> needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
>> for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
>> of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Gabriel Bruguier

Hello Hugh and Andrew, I thought I might chime in here because I was one of 
the previous owners of the grey Atlantis.  The original owner, the Brand 
Manager of a certain well-known MPLS bike brand named Surly, had it powder 
coated sometime before 2017.  He retained the two-toned paint scheme with a 
cream head tube, but went with a darkish grey with a hint of metallic flake 
in it for the rest of the frame.  It is a great color for the bike, and I'm 
so happy to see Andrew's build photos of it since it left my stable!!!
-Gabe

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 12:47:49 AM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in any 
> other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was doing 
> bike shifting these days ;) 
>
> Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case 
> possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.
>
> Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
> other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
> and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>
> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Hugh,
>>
>> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the 
>> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
>> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
>> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>>
>> Such a good bike!
>>
>> Andrew in Denver.
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Nus,
>>>
>>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From 
>>> here it looks like a powder blue?
>>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
  It is, IMO, the Platonic 
 form of bike,





 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
> so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder 
> needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points 
> for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we 
> of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Thanks for your input. Personally done with drops.

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 9:10 AM lconley  wrote:

> I must agree on the handlebars. I have tried Boscos, Boscomooses, and
> Albatrosses, but didn't like any of them. What I ride are drops, Bullmooses
> and Wavies.
>
> Laing
>
> On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:42:19 AM UTC-4 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>> Responses to your questions:
>> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at
>> https://steerstopper.com
>> 2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from
>> the manufacturer in the UK.
>> 3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction
>> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more
>> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to
>> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the
>> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>> 4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same
>> time, I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a
>> close to normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are
>> more of a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or
>> completely flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.
>> Again, the Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style
>> bars.  I'm the outlier here.
>> 5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width
>> needed to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats,
>> which I very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make
>> this pretty easy without deflating the tire.  By the way, I only inflate
>> the tires to 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh about 200#. With the length of
>> the chain stays, the low pressure tires, and the geometry, It's like riding
>> in a 1962 Chevy Impala and for me, that's really good.
>> Best,
>> Steve
>>
>> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>>
 Hugh,

 I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
 attached photos in partial response.  To start:

>>>
>>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
>>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>>

 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a
 Steer Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I
 use it in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.
 It's so much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
 transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
 easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.

>>>
>>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps
>>> you can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase
>>> one for ourselves?
>>>

 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.

>>>
>>> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a
>>> set for mine.
>>>

 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They
 are strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.

>>>
>>> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to
>>> the white industries myself.
>>>

 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly
 thought of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the
 level of build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.

>>>
>>> Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them
>>> a lot.
>>>

 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never
 struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger
 shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear
 is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to
 friction shifters.

>>>
>>> When I started mountain biking in the mid-80s I got used to using the
>>> early trigger shifters and I really like them a lot, not so much for
>>> aesthetics. These days I've become more comfortable with friction, however
>>> I've been considering trigger shifters for my next build.
>>>

 6.  I'm also attaching photos of my cockpit.  The bars Nitto
 Bullmoose.  They are partially lugged and the stem is built in.  The
 headset is a Cane Creek 100 EC30 threaded.  Cockpits are very personal.
 They play a central role in rider comfort.  For me, the slight sweep (30
 degrees) of these bars is perfect.  They also provide a couple of different
 places for my hands and several places to locate things I attach to the
 bars.

>>>
>>> Totally agree with your thoughts on cockpits. I've be

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Doug,

Always nice to see the diminutive frame sets :)

Hugh

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 6:27 PM dougP  wrote:

> Couldn't resist slipping the mini-Lantis into the thread.  Wife's 47cm
> Atlantis.  Bought used & she now has over 10 yeas on it.  Weighs nothing
> compared to my 58.
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:19:56 PM UTC-7 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>> The Clipper crank is the non-Silver brand that Rivendell sells. It's arms
>> are made in the same factory is Sugino. The Clipper wide/low is a great
>> choice for fairly flat riding where you *may* need to climb now and
>> then...the 26t granny gear a life saver on some hills around where I live,
>> but I am almost always on the big 42 ring.
>>
>> On the Deore's max, it can go to 34.
>>
>> The Shikoros are VERY tough while not being stupid heavy. I'm a big
>> PathLessPedaled fan, and Russ has me thinking about tubeless as well...and
>> I would if I was going to ride tires that were not as armored. I'd rather
>> keep tough tires and get the tubes as light as I can. But ya never know!
>>
>> Those brake levers with the shifters on them are dope and I signed up to
>> be notified when they get more in stock of the long-pull with shifters.
>> Holy Moses, that's the solution I've been looking for! I realized in my
>> post I trailed off when I was talking about shifters. I like the stem mount
>> Riv has to put downtube shifters on, but I think the front bag I use would
>> not play well with the cable housing.
>>
>> I will certainly post changes...they'll be a while out. I'm still only a
>> year on this bike and I don't see making big changes for a while.
>>
>> Ben
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, 7:42 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Hugh,
> Responses to your questions:
> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at
> https://steerstopper.com
>

Thank you Steve.

2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from
> the manufacturer in the UK.
>

Good to know.

3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction
> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more
> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to
> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the
> gearing.  To each his or her own.
>

Excellent points on the merits of trigger shifters. I'm definitely not
against them.

4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same time,
> I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a close to
> normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are more of
> a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or completely
> flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.  Again, the
> Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style bars.  I'm the
> outlier here.
>

If you're an outlier then you must be a Rivster :) I think you make
excellent points,  I've ridden Albatache, Albatross, Drops, Jones and a ton
of MTB bars and am currently using Choco's on my road centric Atlantis.

I've been wary of the Bosco's and other similar bar types for the very
reasons you bring up, principally the handshake angle and lack of other
hand positions. I'm including a picture attached of the reason I want to
try the Bosco. This guy Fabio, Ron whatever name he's currently using says
that you can take a Bosco bar and spread them out to achieve a similar bar.
I think the one in this picture is a prototype, but I have no idea when it
will be available on the Crust site?


5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width needed
> to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats, which I
> very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make this pretty
> easy without deflating the tire.
>

I love my Motolites, infinite ability to set them up, easy to get your
wheel out, like you say no deflation. They have great stopping power and
look great. The only issue I have with them is that they interfere with
fork crown mounting of a fixed campee rack. I had a 32F campy rack with
detachable lowrider pannier mounts I had to return. Obviously a Mark's rack
will work.

 By the way, I only inflate the tires to 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh
> about 200#. With the length of the chain stays, the low pressure tires, and
> the geometry, It's like riding in a 1962 Chevy Impala and for me, that's
> really good.
>

My first car was a '62 Impala. Wish I never sold it.

>
>
> Thanks for the response,


Hugh

>
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>>
>>> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
>>> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>>>
>>
>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>
>>>
>>> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer
>>> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it
>>> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so
>>> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
>>> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
>>> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>>>
>>
>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you
>> can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one
>> for ourselves?
>>
>>>
>>> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>>>
>>
>> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a
>> set for mine.
>>
>>>
>>> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They
>>> are strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>>>
>>
>> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to
>> the white industries myself.
>>
>>>
>>> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly
>>> thought of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the
>>> level of build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them a
>> lot.
>>
>>>
>>> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never
>>> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger
>>> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear
>>> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread lconley

I must agree on the handlebars. I have tried Boscos, Boscomooses, and 
Albatrosses, but didn't like any of them. What I ride are drops, Bullmooses 
and Wavies.

Laing

On Tuesday, October 12, 2021 at 10:42:19 AM UTC-4 Steve Cole wrote:

> Hugh,
> Responses to your questions:
> 1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available at 
> https://steerstopper.com
> 2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from 
> the manufacturer in the UK.
> 3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction 
> shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more 
> natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to 
> simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the 
> gearing.  To each his or her own.
> 4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same time, 
> I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a close to 
> normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are more of 
> a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or completely 
> flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.  Again, the 
> Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style bars.  I'm the 
> outlier here.
> 5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width needed 
> to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats, which I 
> very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make this pretty 
> easy without deflating the tire.  By the way, I only inflate the tires to 
> 30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh about 200#. With the length of the chain 
> stays, the low pressure tires, and the geometry, It's like riding in a 1962 
> Chevy Impala and for me, that's really good.
> Best,
> Steve
>
> On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>>
>>> Hugh,
>>>
>>> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've 
>>> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>>>
>>
>> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an 
>> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>>
>>>
>>> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer 
>>> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it 
>>> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so 
>>> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I 
>>> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much 
>>> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>>>
>>
>> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you 
>> can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one 
>> for ourselves?
>>
>>>
>>> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>>>
>>
>> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a 
>> set for mine.
>>
>>>
>>> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They 
>>> are strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>>>
>>
>> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to 
>> the white industries myself.
>>
>>>
>>> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly 
>>> thought of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the 
>>> level of build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>>>
>>
>> Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them a 
>> lot. 
>>
>>>
>>> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never 
>>> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger 
>>> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear 
>>> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to 
>>> friction shifters.
>>>
>>
>> When I started mountain biking in the mid-80s I got used to using the 
>> early trigger shifters and I really like them a lot, not so much for 
>> aesthetics. These days I've become more comfortable with friction, however 
>> I've been considering trigger shifters for my next build.
>>
>>>
>>> 6.  I'm also attaching photos of my cockpit.  The bars Nitto Bullmoose.  
>>> They are partially lugged and the stem is built in.  The headset is a Cane 
>>> Creek 100 EC30 threaded.  Cockpits are very personal.  They play a central 
>>> role in rider comfort.  For me, the slight sweep (30 degrees) of these bars 
>>> is perfect.  They also provide a couple of different places for my hands 
>>> and several places to locate things I attach to the bars.
>>>
>>
>> Totally agree with your thoughts on cockpits. I've been curious about the 
>> bullmoose bars, but have been unsure of their fixed nature. Meaning you 
>> can't feather the bars downward. I'm really Bosco curious, I plan on trying 
>> the Ultra

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-12 Thread Steve Cole

Hugh,
Responses to your questions:
1.  The wheel flop stopper is a Steer Stopper, available 
at https://steerstopper.com
2.  The Middleburn cranks, I believe, are sourced by James directly from 
the manufacturer in the UK.
3.  Trigger shifters.  I know that there is a preference for friction 
shifters in the Rivendell community.  Using feel is a seemingly more 
natural approach to shifting.  For me, the trigger shifters free me to 
simply enjoy the ride without needing to make any minute adjustments to the 
gearing.  To each his or her own.
4.  Bullmoose vs Bosco.  Again, to each his or her own.  At the same time, 
I think that handlebars are best when the hands/wrists rest in a close to 
normal position.  Boscos (and Albatrosses, which I have owned) are more of 
a handshake position.  Bullmoose bars and similarly nearly or completely 
flat bars for me provide better mechanics and pain-free riding.  Again, the 
Rivendell community seems to have settled on handshake style bars.  I'm the 
outlier here.
5.  Motolite brakes.  Motolites were essential to provide the width needed 
to handle the 700c x 55 tires.  In addition, when changing flats, which I 
very rarely do as they I use tubeless tires, the Motolites make this pretty 
easy without deflating the tire.  By the way, I only inflate the tires to 
30/35 lbs. front/rear.  I weigh about 200#. With the length of the chain 
stays, the low pressure tires, and the geometry, It's like riding in a 1962 
Chevy Impala and for me, that's really good.
Best,
Steve

On Monday, October 11, 2021 at 6:28:29 PM UTC-4 Hugh Smitham wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:
>
>> Hugh,
>>
>> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've 
>> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>>
>
> Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an 
> inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.
>
>>
>> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer 
>> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it 
>> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so 
>> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I 
>> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much 
>> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>>
>
> Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you 
> can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one 
> for ourselves?
>
>>
>> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>>
>
> Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a 
> set for mine.
>
>>
>> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They are 
>> strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>>
>
> Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to the 
> white industries myself.
>
>>
>> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly thought 
>> of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the level of 
>> build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>>
>
> Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them a 
> lot. 
>
>>
>> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never 
>> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger 
>> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear 
>> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to 
>> friction shifters.
>>
>
> When I started mountain biking in the mid-80s I got used to using the 
> early trigger shifters and I really like them a lot, not so much for 
> aesthetics. These days I've become more comfortable with friction, however 
> I've been considering trigger shifters for my next build.
>
>>
>> 6.  I'm also attaching photos of my cockpit.  The bars Nitto Bullmoose.  
>> They are partially lugged and the stem is built in.  The headset is a Cane 
>> Creek 100 EC30 threaded.  Cockpits are very personal.  They play a central 
>> role in rider comfort.  For me, the slight sweep (30 degrees) of these bars 
>> is perfect.  They also provide a couple of different places for my hands 
>> and several places to locate things I attach to the bars.
>>
>
> Totally agree with your thoughts on cockpits. I've been curious about the 
> bullmoose bars, but have been unsure of their fixed nature. Meaning you 
> can't feather the bars downward. I'm really Bosco curious, I plan on trying 
> the Ultraromance idea to bend a set of chromo wider. 
>
> https://www.instagram.com/p/CUfkin3Fdkr/?utm_medium=share_sheet
>
>
> 7.  The Bitex rear hub, which James recommended, roles very smoothly and, 
> important to me, very quietly.  It's Taiwan made and has been problem 
> free.  It's also available in silver.
>
>
> Good to know I've know very little about these hubs. I'm g

Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-11 Thread Ben Mihovk

Hugh,
The Clipper crank is the non-Silver brand that Rivendell sells. It's arms
are made in the same factory is Sugino. The Clipper wide/low is a great
choice for fairly flat riding where you *may* need to climb now and
then...the 26t granny gear a life saver on some hills around where I live,
but I am almost always on the big 42 ring.

On the Deore's max, it can go to 34.

The Shikoros are VERY tough while not being stupid heavy. I'm a big
PathLessPedaled fan, and Russ has me thinking about tubeless as well...and
I would if I was going to ride tires that were not as armored. I'd rather
keep tough tires and get the tubes as light as I can. But ya never know!

Those brake levers with the shifters on them are dope and I signed up to be
notified when they get more in stock of the long-pull with shifters. Holy
Moses, that's the solution I've been looking for! I realized in my post I
trailed off when I was talking about shifters. I like the stem mount Riv
has to put downtube shifters on, but I think the front bag I use would not
play well with the cable housing.

I will certainly post changes...they'll be a while out. I'm still only a
year on this bike and I don't see making big changes for a while.

Ben

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-11 Thread Hugh Smitham

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 1:49 PM Ben Mihovk  wrote:

> Here's my Atlantis in its second home, my classroom! It's a 2019 MIT frame
> that I purchased with a very standard build up from Rivendell about a year
> ago.


Ben,

Great looking Atlantis.

>
>- 59cm
>- Choco bars with an amateurishly wrap and twine job, shellac'd cork
>grips
>- Microshift thumbies in the flipped Riv style working a Deore M591 in
>the rear and IRD Sub-C on the front
>- Clipper wide/low 42/26 with 11-32 cassette
>- Wheels are the standard Rivendell Atlas design built by Velocity
>with 42mm Shikoros
>- SKS P50sBen
>
> I love my Choco bars, I've toyed with wrapping them like you have in the
curves but I love the polished aluminum. By the way it doesn't look that
amateurish to me, looks great!

I know nothing about these Shikoro's, I presume they are from Japan?

What is a clipper wide low? I know it's a crank set but I've never heard of
the clipper brand?

Regarding the Deore M591, is 32 it's max cog? Or can it go to 36?


> I've added...
>
>- The cheap (and very light!) rear rack
>- Mark's rack
>- Fun green valve caps
>- Yokozuna salmon brake pads
>- Iris bottle cage
>- X-Small saddle bag up front carries flat fix stuff and trail passes
>- Slimsucker is laptop, books, layers, etc...
>
>


> What I'm thinking about doing...
>
>- Changing out the SV19 with the SV17...I'm not a weight weenie, but
>the bike would drop a half pound just with different tubes
>-
>
> I went tubeless, never looking back.

>
>- I love the Shikoros...no punctures on over a year of commuting on
>city streets. I might try an endurance casing RH or the Supple Vitesse EX
>next, though...
>
> I'm personally going with the RH 27.5″ x 2.2″ (650B x 55) Umtanum Ridge TC
Tire with endurance casing on my dirt centric Atlantis.

>
>- Toying with converting to drops, but I can't find a shifting
>solution I like as much as what I have...I don't like the look of bar end
>shifters, I like the stem.
>
> https://www.gevenalle.com/product/audax/

This is an option.

Ben Thanks for sharing your Atlantis, I really appreciate the build,
remember to let us see your changes and what led you to make them and
whether they worked to your satisfaction?

Best Regards,

Hugh in LA

>
> Ben in Omaha
> [image: 1.jpg][image: 2.jpg][image: 3.jpg][image: 4.jpg][image: 5.jpg]
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 12:40:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>
>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so
>> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs
>> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for
>> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of
>> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>
>> Let's have some fun!
>>
>> Hugh Smiitham
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-11 Thread Hugh Smitham

On Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 7:08 AM Steve Cole  wrote:

> Hugh,
>
> I appreciate this thread very much and your follow up questions.  I've
> attached photos in partial response.  To start:
>

Steve, glad you like the thread. The responses have been great and an
inspiration. I love who folks really personalize their bikes.

>
> 1.  The contraption mounted between the top tube and the stem is a Steer
> Stopper.  It's an excellent way to hold the front wheel stable.  I use it
> in two applications.  First, I store my bikes from ceiling hooks.  It's so
> much easier to hang them when the front wheel is fixed.  Second, I
> transport my bikes on a roof rack on my car.  Lifting them is also much
> easier with a fixed wheel.  This is not what I would call inexpensive.
>

Wheel flop is a huge annoyance, especially with a front load. Perhaps you
can let us know what the product name is and where we might purchase one
for ourselves?

>
> 2.  The fenders are Simworks by Honjo.  I think they are 65 mm.
>

Gorgeous fenders I love metal fenders. I'll check out Simworks to get a set
for mine.

>
> 3.  Photos of the cranks are attached.  James recommended them.  They are
> strong, lighter weight than many and silver, which I insisted upon.
>

Do you know where James sources these cranks? Although I am partial to the
white industries myself.

>
> 4.  SKF BBs are sold by Rene Herse among others.  They are highly thought
> of and supposedly will outlast most other sealed BBs. Given the level of
> build, they seemed to be worth the expense to me.
>

Thank you I've heard of SKF bottom brackets but I haven't heard of them a
lot.

>
> 5.  Trigger shifters.  I grew up on friction shifters and have never
> struggled with them. At the same time, for me, I love that these trigger
> shifters make shifting automatic in the sense that when I shift, the gear
> is precisely changed.  I now ride only upright and would not go back to
> friction shifters.
>

When I started mountain biking in the mid-80s I got used to using the early
trigger shifters and I really like them a lot, not so much for aesthetics.
These days I've become more comfortable with friction, however I've been
considering trigger shifters for my next build.

>
> 6.  I'm also attaching photos of my cockpit.  The bars Nitto Bullmoose.
> They are partially lugged and the stem is built in.  The headset is a Cane
> Creek 100 EC30 threaded.  Cockpits are very personal.  They play a central
> role in rider comfort.  For me, the slight sweep (30 degrees) of these bars
> is perfect.  They also provide a couple of different places for my hands
> and several places to locate things I attach to the bars.
>

Totally agree with your thoughts on cockpits. I've been curious about the
bullmoose bars, but have been unsure of their fixed nature. Meaning you
can't feather the bars downward. I'm really Bosco curious, I plan on trying
the Ultraromance idea to bend a set of chromo wider.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CUfkin3Fdkr/?utm_medium=share_sheet

7.  The Bitex rear hub, which James recommended, roles very smoothly and,
important to me, very quietly.  It's Taiwan made and has been problem
free.  It's also available in silver.

Good to know I've know very little about these hubs. I'm getting ready to
build a wheel set, I tend to gravitate towards white industry rear hubs but
it is noisy. Probably going to go with a shutter precision or Son 28 Dyno
hub.

>
> 8.  Paul Motolite brakes were essential given the wheel/tire/fender
> combination I chose.
>

Is that because the Motolites give you more room?

>
> Happy to answer any other questions.
>

Thank you,

Hugh in LA

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

2021-10-11 Thread Ben Mihovk

Here's my Atlantis in its second home, my classroom! It's a 2019 MIT frame 
that I purchased with a very standard build up from Rivendell about a year 
ago. 
59cm
Choco bars with shellac'd cork grips and amateurishly wrapped and twined by 
me
Microshift thumbies in the flipped Riv style working a Deore M591 in the 
rear and IRD Sub-C on the front
Clipper wide/low 42/26 with 11-32 cassette 
Wheels are the standard Rivendell Atlas design built by Velocity with 42mm 
Shikoros
SKS P50s

I've added...
The cheap (and very light!) rear rack...leaving it on to see how often I 
strap my basket to it over the next few months...may end up ditching it.
Mark's rack
Fun green valve caps
Yokozuna salmon brake pads
Iris bottle cage
Big fan of Sackville bags...front carries tools and extra tube. Rear is for 
school stuff (laptop, books, clothes, etc...)

What I'm thinking about doing...
Changing out the SV19 with the SV17...I'm not a weight weenie, but the bike 
would drop a half pound with just the tubes
I love the Shikoros...no punctures on over a year of commuting on city 
streets. I might try an endurance casing RH or the Supple Vitesse EX next, 
though...
Toying with converting to drops, but I can't find a shifting solution I 
like as much as what I have.

Ben in Omaha

On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 12:40:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi Rivy Peps,
>
> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly so 
> but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
> some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
> close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
> course want to see a nice portrait too!
>
> Let's have some fun!
>
> Hugh Smiitham
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Hey I know this guy!!

Doug do you remember doing that ride in the San Gabriel's (Mendehall Divide 
Jeep Trail) and I was on my 2012 A. Homer Hilsen and I keep saying I should 
have bought an Atlantis. Well now I'll have two!!

Thanks for showing us your faithful conveyor of so many years. I can't 
recall but didn't you have some total mileage figured out and it was pretty 
significant.

Best Regards,

Hugh  

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 3:29:57 PM UTC-7 dougP wrote:

> Here goes:
>
> dougP
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Andrew,

Good to meet you. Ah grey. I wasn't aware that the early one's came in any 
other color that the russian sub green?? I didn't know Microsoft was doing 
bike shifting these days ;) 

Honestly, I love the Atlantis color but these repainted and in your case 
possibly early color runs are always welcome sights.

Just my humble opinion but I think it's the very best Rivendell. The 
other's are great but the original seed for this bike was an All-Rounder 
and I think it's design has been proven time and time again. 

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Hugh,
>
> It's grey, not blue. I'm the third owner, but I think the grey was the 
> original color for this frameset. My sense is in the early runs of 
> atlantises, there was some color variations? Bars are albatross, and 
> shifting is Microsoft nine speed thumbie.
>
> Such a good bike!
>
> Andrew in Denver.
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 7:41:56 PM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> Nus,
>>
>> Whom ever you are that's a great Atlantis build and custom color. From 
>> here it looks like a powder blue?
>> Is it a powder coat? What bars and shift mech are you using. 
>>
>> Hugh
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
>>>  It is, IMO, the Platonic 
>>> form of bike,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Hi Rivy Peps,

 There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and rightly 
 so but I think the flagship model born from the original all-rounder needs 
 some attention. So in that spirit let's see you Atlantis. Extra points for 
 close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details like wheels, but we of 
 course want to see a nice portrait too!

 Let's have some fun!

 Hugh Smiitham
 Los Angeles, CA

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Benz,

I guess that's you name? What a well thought out build. I absolutely love 
that 1st gen XTR drive. Pretty sweet older hubs the polished silver looks 
so good. I like the be seen friction (I presume) dyno rear light. I don't 
like dyno wiring running to the rear just ugly and a pain. I had a campee 
front rack like that but it doesn't play well with v-brakes so it was a no 
go.

I like all the shots but a Atlantis in the wild is special.

I think you played pretty well Sir.

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 1:32:04 PM UTC-7 Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

> I'll play.
>
> I present my 53cm Toyo Atlantis that has been through more versions than I 
> care to remember; at one time, it even had Campagnolo Ergopower levers on 
> mustache handlebars. It's currently outfitted for commuter/all-purpose 
> duty. That's why there's a heavy Abus Bordo Granit X-plus permanently 
> fixtured and Pitlock skewers (plus other security implementations).
>
> All images are embiggenable – right click > Open image in new window.
>
> Some standard profiles to start…
> [image: Atlantis Left.jpg]
> [image: Atlantis Right.jpg]
>
> Here's the cockpit. I'm running a wide (48cm?) Nitto M151 handlebar with 
> TRP RRL levers. I've standardized on Spurcycle bells and (unfortunately 
> discontinued) Cateye Adventure cyclo-computers. Yes, cotton tape with cork 
> on one end and twine on the other, plus shellack to make it Riv-approved…
> [image: Atlantis Cockpit.jpg]
>
> Here's the drivetrain. It's 1st gen Shimano XTR with Dura Ace SL-7700 
> downtube shifters, with a 9-speed "Sheldon's Century Special" 13-30 
> cassette. Wheels are Velocity Synergy rims (OC rear), laced to a Schmidt 
> dynamo front and a White Industries rear (because they're visually 
> matching). Here's an solicited plug for Rene Herse Naches Pass tires. 
> Although expensive, they are quite transformative, and are pretty much what 
> I've been using on the Atlantis exclusively since the tires came out years 
> ago.
> [image: Atlantis Drivetrain.jpg]
>
> The sharp-eyed probably noticed the Bridgestone style "Partypace" sticker 
> 
>  on 
> the toptube, but there's also a limited edition "Old Man Petersen downtube 
> sticker some Riv fan made years ago...
> [image: Atlantis Old Man Petersen.jpg] 
>
> I also have a big safety triangle and plenty of red reflective tape all 
> over the rear...
> [image: Atlantis Rear Right.jpg]
>
> Some may have spotted the PDW Radbot 1000 on the right, but do you know 
> what's hiding on the left? Yes, it's a second dynamo-powered Magnic rear 
> light 
> . 
> Despite the Schmidt dynamo hub up front, I went to the trouble of doing 
> this to avoid running an unsightly wire to the rear. The Magnic light works 
> well for a "be seen" light and I recommend it for this purpose. I'm a lot 
> less convinced of the Magnic front light's efficacy as a "to see" light.
> [image: Atlantis Double Dynamo.jpg]
>
> Finally, what's a bike pictorial without some action shots. Here are a 
> couple. A pano from the peak of Black Mountain 
> , 
> and another on the trail 
> 
>  
> that I used to descend from the peak. Both are from today's morning ride.
> [image: Atlantis Pano on Black Mtn.jpg]
> [image: Atlantis Mixed Terrain.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Bill,

Nothing wrong with a original build, testament to a build that has served 
you well or your stubborn /s

I look forward to see what kind of changes you make? Please repost on this 
thread so we can see what you landed on? I can't disagree with you I get a 
ton of joy thinking about a build
bits and pieces.

I know Grant IIRC coined the term Beausage and he's got something there. A 
well used bike but mechanically maintained equates to bike love for me. 
Although, a new fresh bike is pretty sweet.

I remember hearing this Japanese term on this list serve or maybe one of 
Grant's posts Wabi Sabi. 

>From WikiPedia: In traditional Japanese aesthetics 
, *wabi-sabi* (侘 
寂 
) is a world view 
 centered on the acceptance of 
transience  and imperfection.[2] 
 The aesthetic is 
sometimes described as one of appreciating beauty that is "imperfect, 
impermanent, and incomplete" in nature.[3] 
 It is a concept 
derived from the Buddhist  teaching 
of the three marks of existence 
 (三法印, *sanbōin*), 
specifically impermanence  (無常, 
*mujō*), suffering  (苦, *ku*) and 
emptiness 
or absence of self-nature 
 (空, *kū*).

Characteristics of *wabi-sabi* aesthetics and principles include asymmetry 
, roughness, simplicity 
, economy, austerity, modesty, 
intimacy , and the appreciation of 
both natural objects and the forces of nature.

I like this very much.

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 11:05:21 AM UTC-7 Bill Fulford wrote:

> I bought my Atlantis in 2007. It’s a Toyo built. Originally it was set up 
> for touring. 700 by 35 tires, fenders etc. Since then it’s gone through 
> several changes. I’m on the second set of wheels, now Atlas, and the second 
> crank. It’s pretty much a basic build. I’ve always kept the nitto drops. 
> They are comfortable although not good when I take the Atlantis off road.
> This winter I’m planning on a partial rebuild. I don’t know exactly what 
> my plans are but a change in handlebars, shifters, brakes are probable. 
> It’s fun thinking about the changes. I’ve decided not to have it repainted, 
> those scars have been well earned.

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

Steve,

Love this build!! I have appreciated Jame's details on some other builds 
he's done. What's the contraption that is mounted between the top tube and 
stem?
Great choice on tires really fills out the Atlantis and the fenders look 
amazing! Who makes the fenders?

I have like you landed on the Quill Rims for my next build. Not a ton of 
wide (rim brake) rims these days that strike a balance between
light weight and strength. I don't know much about the Middleburn Cranks? 
Maybe give us a drive side shot to see the bulk of the crank? The non-drive 
crank arm has some nice fluting. What's the deal with the SKF BB is it 
superior to the Shimano or Tange bottom brackets?

Your using Shimano Trigger shifters with the Paul Love levers, how do you 
like the shifters? Looks like your rocking the Jones bars using a 
threadless stem and the nitto threaded to threadless adapter. How's the 
stability and the bar comfort? Do the Bitex hubs roll fast? I love the Paul 
Motolite brakes in fact I plan on using them again for this new build.

Anyway, thanks for showing us your beauty.

Best Regards,

Hugh

On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 4:42:46 AM UTC-7 Steve Cole wrote:

> Here's my 2020 MIT Atlantis. Build was planned with the help and the work 
> was done by James at Analog Cycles.  Some details include: Rene Herse 
> Antelope Hill tires (55 mm) on Velocity Quill rims, Middleburn cranks 
> (U.K.) on SKF bottom bracket, Shimano Deore XT drive train, SON Widebody 
> front hub, Bitex rear hub, Paul Motolite brakes.
>
>  
>
> On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 2:00:19 AM UTC-4 Drw wrote:
>
>> Oh also, we've met a couple of times. I used to live in Atwater village, 
>> and i think i ran into you at golden saddle once or twice. 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 10:57:02 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Hugh, 
>>> I bonked the original fork doing something stupid.  It needs to be bent 
>>> back at the steerer tube a bit, but somehow i convinced myself that i 
>>> should get a disc fork replacement also/instead. The color not matching 
>>> isn't fitz's fault. It's a powdercoat color that I chose (wet paint cost 
>>> almost as much as the fork itself.)
>>> The Atlantis is MY only bike. I have another bike with a crust cargo 
>>> fork and a child seat on the back that gets ridden more, for errands, bike 
>>> paths, parks etc. but rarely gets above 10mph. Though i dont get to trails 
>>> or fire roads that often, i like having the atlantis ready to go for that 
>>> or an overnighter. Also after riding the kid bike around, even the atlantis 
>>> feels super fast on roads. 
>>>
>>> -Drew
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 6:51:27 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 Drw,

 I love it! I like the custom Fitz disc fork, looks like he couldn't 
 quite match the color, nonetheless I dig the customization.
 What a great start to this thread. I'd love to read about both of your 
 stories. For instance, how are you came by the framework? What vintage it 
 is? What made you to do the customization? And why you love your Atlantis? 
 It would also be great to know people's names, where they live and the 
 type 
 of terrain you like riding?

 Thanks for the submission.

 Hugh

 On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 2:04:47 PM UTC-7 Drw wrote:

> Here's my 650b waterford in hunq green with a fitz disc fork. photo is 
> from a mid pandemic rebuild and not everything was dialed in at this 
> point. [image: 
> IMG_6226.jpg][image: IMG_6227.jpg]
>
> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:07:38 AM UTC-7 nus...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Here's my early-run Toyo Atlantis on some recent rides. 
>>  It is, IMO, the 
>> Platonic form of bike,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, October 9, 2021 at 11:40:49 AM UTC-6 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Rivy Peps,
>>>
>>> There's a lotta love for many of the Riv models out there and 
>>> rightly so but I think the flagship model born from the original 
>>> all-rounder needs some attention. So in that spirit let's see you 
>>> Atlantis. 
>>> Extra points for close-up pictures of your cockpit and other details 
>>> like 
>>> wheels, but we of course want to see a nice portrait too!
>>>
>>> Let's have some fun!
>>>
>>> Hugh Smiitham
>>> Los Angeles, CA
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!