[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
We have a lot of bikes at our house with mustaches and noodles; I prefer m'bars and my partner prefers noodles. After our current round of bar experiments, I agree with charlie's formula. There are two things I'd add. First, consider a Dirt Drop stem if you really want m'bars raised. I had a short reach (7cm) technomic deluxe on my saluki and wound up switching it to a dirt drop after experiencing neck pain and trying the dirt drop on my proto bleriot. It really gets the bars up. And when they're really up, they kinda sorta start feeling like alba's, which I have on my old mountain bike. Second, my partner is trying m'bars on her new-to-us quickbeam after being in noodle land for years. we put the 7 cm technomic deluxe on for an experiment, and it appears to work like a charm. She's *loving* the access to brakes--this is a key great thing about m'bars, especially for bikes being used to commute or in city riding. I think a key is try a few experiments if you can borrow some bars and see what you like. We did it on the QB, and just let there be an embarrassing amount of cables sticking out during test rides (you'll need less cable going from noodles to m'bars). Granted, this is easier to do with a single, but it would work with bar-end shifters too. I found it not too daunting at all to do the switches, and I am not a bike mechanic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
I have the albatross on my Bomadil and set them up so the hooks were the same distance fronm center of seat as was the hoods on my noodles. When on long stretches I can stretch out. I didn't think I would stay with them but have since changed my mind. I've had this setup over 40 mph loaded and unloaded without issue. With full tour load on down hill I have had to reach up with one hand to hold hat on. Stability was fine for me. I can't say enough good things about the albatros bars. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NUIAAkmLdkcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
Stability, or lack of it, is a bike by bike problem. I never had any w/ the Albatross bars mounted high and forward. This was really comfy position, and let me use the forward bends as a more stretched out option as well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2058061573/ On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the feedback. It sounds like I would need a very short stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars... All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the Albatross, which I was favoring. Perhaps I should consider a straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat cross between the two)? FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle. Thoughts? On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. High bars and fluffy tires, Clyde On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
Edit: I never had any *stability problems*... On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:11 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Stability, or lack of it, is a bike by bike problem. I never had any w/ the Albatross bars mounted high and forward. This was really comfy position, and let me use the forward bends as a more stretched out option as well: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/2058061573/ On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 9:25 PM, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the feedback. It sounds like I would need a very short stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars... All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the Albatross, which I was favoring. Perhaps I should consider a straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat cross between the two)? FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle. Thoughts? On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. High bars and fluffy tires, Clyde On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
I think Charlie has the correct formula. FWIW, I used the Technomic (non-deluxe) stem in order to get the Albatross bars really high, which was perfect. On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:33 PM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. High bars and fluffy tires, Clyde On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
Thanks all for the feedback. It sounds like I would need a very short stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars... All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the Albatross, which I was favoring. Perhaps I should consider a straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat cross between the two)? FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle. Thoughts? On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. High bars and fluffy tires, Clyde On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
Not necessarily that short but tall..way tall so that the grip area is level or higher than the saddle. Due to the head tube angle going higher also brings the bar back toward you so don't get too extreme just use some common sense. As far as the 'instability' idea that's just an idea (actually more like an interpretation) my word was squirrely and what I meant by that is that it put my weight too far back making the front end light which made me less confident. I don't use a front rack or load the front end heavily and I am heavy in the gut so too much rearward weight distribution made my bike (not a Rivendell) feel light in the front end. I prefer more equal weight distribution in regard to riding position and that depends on several things. I would personally not use any straight bar and prefer a bar with a handshake position option of the hand on the bar. My favorite bar however is the Nitto Randonneur bar. This is a narrow bar with the hoods being only 36cm wide but I like it and it helps me now with my shoulder being injured after crashing on the ice. My drop bars Rando and Noodle (two different bikes) are both several cm above saddle height and that works for me YMMV. What works for any rider depends on their anatomyI have short arms relative to my leg length so I take that into account whereas a long arm and torso but short legged rider might have a completely different comfort position. On Jul 2, 9:25 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the feedback. It sounds like I would need a very short stem 6-7cm for the M-bars and probably a 12 for the A-bars... All this talk of instability at speed has me now questioning the Albatross, which I was favoring. Perhaps I should consider a straight(ish) bar or maybe something with a little more flexibility like the Jitensha bar (which appears to be an abbreviated, somewhat cross between the two)? FWIW, I have the Noodles just about level with the saddle. Thoughts? On Jul 2, 12:23 pm, clyde canter clyde.can...@gmail.com wrote: Shorter for the 'stach and longer for the 'tross, definately. I've tried both and the only setup that felt good to me was the 'tach bars on a bike that was too small, ie short top tube and an upjutting (40 deg) stem. Problem there is getting them high enough. The tross bars came close on my Hillborne, but there's something about those bars at speed that's disconcerting for me. I'll borrow the term squirrley. That's a good descriptor. The at speed part got me to thinking the albatross might be a good bar for a fixed application. Hitting my top cadence in their upright position was interesting to say the least. Also, I almost crashed when reaching all the way down there for a bottle. All this has me fondly remembering my more flexible lower back of years past. I now have my 48 noodles a whopping 2 1/2 to 3 inches above my saddle and that is my mostest favoritest set up for everything. I should note that the only bikes I have that will allow this are my Rivendells. Thanks Grant. High bars and fluffy tires, Clyde On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:33 AM, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
If I needed a 90 cm stem with a Noodle, I would not be able to get a short enough stem for comfort with a Moustache bar. With an M there are no tops, so it's like being on the hoods full time only lower because the M bars have a little drop to them. A 60 might work. My most successful application of M's was on a bike that was otherwise too small for me. With Albatrosses I'd want a 120, maybe longer. Other opinions are sure to vary. Bill On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Stem sizing for Albatross and Moustache bars
I have used a 12cm for Albatross bars and a 9cm with a 105 degree rise for noodles on the same bike with a 58cm top tube. I have mustache bars with a 10cm dirtdrop but on a bike with a 57 cm top tube. My Simple One has a 9cm seven shaped nitto stem all the way up to the mark with Nitto Rando bars and a 58cm top tube. I purposely mounted my albatross bars upside down making the grips level with the saddle but it still put me too upright and the front end felt squirrely so I went back to noodles. If my memory is correct a 3-4 cm longer is good for Albatross bars and maybe a 2-3 cm shorter for mustache's. although you want them way taller so the curve is above saddle height and the normal grip at least level with the saddle. On Jul 1, 7:39 pm, rw1911 rw1...@gmail.com wrote: I currently have Noodles with a 110 Nitto stem which ideally should be a 100 or maybe even a 90 (tops are great, hoods are just a bit far) Anyway, I've been thinking about trying either the Albatross or Moutstache bars. Can you share your experience in regards to stem length for these bars relative to what you use for a drop bar like the Noddle? I'm thinking I would use a slightly longer stem for the Albatross and a slightly shorter for the Moustache? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
