Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Thanks; that is a useful piece of information for the future. If only it had something more useful than a bottle opener on the other end. On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Tim McNamara wrote: > I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel. It's > intended to be stepped on if necessary to break loose or tighten the nut. > I've never found it necessary. > > > On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > >> That would make a very good option, but my experience from those >> wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will >> break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a >> flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of >> those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? >> >> This is what I use. >> >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike wrote: >>> I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the >>> tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. >>> >>> I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough >>> to miss them completely. Probably just as well. >>> >>> On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's do look rather nice, tho', IMO. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
I have a Surly Jethro Tool for those nuts- solid, high quality steel. It's intended to be stepped on if necessary to break loose or tighten the nut. I've never found it necessary. On Apr 7, 2011, at 11:11 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > That would make a very good option, but my experience from those > wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will > break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a > flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of > those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? > > This is what I use. > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike wrote: >> I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the >> tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. >> >> I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough >> to miss them completely. Probably just as well. >> >> On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >>> What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its >>> own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might >>> just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's >>> do look rather nice, tho', IMO. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> > > > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > <>-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
I don't think that wingnuts are very practical on a modern bike. They may, however, be suitable for a bike that's being restored with some bling. I recently saw a bike, at a LBS, that was in the restoration process. It was an older Carlton made Raleigh that the owner had painted (and pin striped himself). He had a parts assemblage that included a beautiful Chater-Lea crank and Normandy hubs with wingnuts. Everything very shiny and sparkling. I thought the wingnuts looked very appropriate for this nifty bike. (The bike was being set-up as a single speed). Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
That would make a very good option, but my experience from those wrenches as a boy back in the early '70s led me to think they will break at that very important time on the road when you need to fix a flat -- my old ones often did. Is the Riv-supplied one (I have one of those) sturdy enough for repeated track nut torque? This is what I use. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 2:10 PM, mike wrote: > I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the > tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. > > I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough > to miss them completely. Probably just as well. > > On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its >> own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might >> just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's >> do look rather nice, tho', IMO. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. <>
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
I use one of those dumbell wrenches from Riv. It fits well in the tool bag and doesn't have sharp bits to catch on things. I was tempted by the VO wing nuts, but the price slowed me down enough to miss them completely. Probably just as well. On Apr 6, 10:05 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its > own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might > just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's > do look rather nice, tho', IMO. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
The better belted tires do resist them somewhat; my Big Apples for example wil suffer a penetration rate just a fraction of my thin road tires where one of, say, every five get through. I've ridden into a bad patch offroad with the Big Apples and flicked off literally a hundred or more from both tires -- spin the wheel, use your foot as a scraper, see them fly off like popcorn. Just fixed another one On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:30 AM, Rex Kerr wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> >> About five goathead flats so far this week -- well, that number >> includes a tube that tore at the valve. Still, I'd rather patch than >> ride wooden tires. > > I doubt that any tires would help... I had a set of tires on my touring bike > that went 5000 miles without a single flat -- until I pulled off the road > looking for a place to camp and rode into a patch of goatheads. I got 4 > puncture holes in each of the tires and pulled almost 30 thorns out of the > tread... bad stuff. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:05 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > About five goathead flats so far this week -- well, that number > includes a tube that tore at the valve. Still, I'd rather patch than > ride wooden tires. > I doubt that any tires would help... I had a set of tires on my touring bike that went 5000 miles without a single flat -- until I pulled off the road looking for a place to camp and rode into a patch of goatheads. I got 4 puncture holes in each of the tires and pulled almost 30 thorns out of the tread... bad stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
What I really want is a QR on the rear but my two hubs (each for its own reason) does not work with a QR, and I thought that wingnuts might just be easier to use than a shortened 15 mm box end wrench. The VO's do look rather nice, tho', IMO. About five goathead flats so far this week -- well, that number includes a tube that tore at the valve. Still, I'd rather patch than ride wooden tires. And one almost saving grace about goatheads is that the leaks they cause are generally slow leaks that often require more than the usual 20 miles I am usually on the bike at one time to deflate the tire, so that I generally discover them the next day and can patch them in the comfort of my garage. I picked half a dozen thorn remnants out of the rear Turbo yesterday evening, tho' there was only one hole in the tube. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Philip Williamson wrote: > They come as a set of four - fronts and rears. They're already out of > stock, so possibly moot. > Besides, I thought you were all about the lean and clean look. Ankle- > gougers sticking out of your hubs don't seem like your style! > > Philip > > Philip Williamson > www.biketinker.com > > > On Apr 5, 6:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> Wingnuts of various designs were the standard race and upscale attachment >> device until Tulio had his epiphany on the alps and, as they lasted so long >> they must have worked. I think they were used with chain tugs, though. I >> wanted to try some without the tugs and bought a handful (not the VOs) but >> found that the threading was too small for the standard track axle. >> >> I'd love to try a pair of VOs, but not, I repeat not, at $45 a pair. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM, mike wrote: >> > Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just >> > by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking >> > mechanism? >> >> > On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: >> > >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html >> >> > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
They come as a set of four - fronts and rears. They're already out of stock, so possibly moot. Besides, I thought you were all about the lean and clean look. Ankle- gougers sticking out of your hubs don't seem like your style! Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Apr 5, 6:28 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Wingnuts of various designs were the standard race and upscale attachment > device until Tulio had his epiphany on the alps and, as they lasted so long > they must have worked. I think they were used with chain tugs, though. I > wanted to try some without the tugs and bought a handful (not the VOs) but > found that the threading was too small for the standard track axle. > > I'd love to try a pair of VOs, but not, I repeat not, at $45 a pair. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM, mike wrote: > > Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just > > by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking > > mechanism? > > > On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > > >http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Wingnuts of various designs were the standard race and upscale attachment device until Tulio had his epiphany on the alps and, as they lasted so long they must have worked. I think they were used with chain tugs, though. I wanted to try some without the tugs and bought a handful (not the VOs) but found that the threading was too small for the standard track axle. I'd love to try a pair of VOs, but not, I repeat not, at $45 a pair. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM, mike wrote: > Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just > by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking > mechanism? > > On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Seems dangerous. Unlike a quick-release, they can be spun loose just by bumping into something. Or am I not understanding some locking mechanism? On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: VO Wingnuts
Too late for either. Been sent back to the manufacturer...posted on VO blog today. Poor threading. On Apr 5, 3:49 pm, Amit Singh wrote: > http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/vo-stainless-wingnuts.html > > Retro-Grouch-ish or Fetish-ism? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
