Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I love it... we need a group on Flickr for bike travel.. here are some photos I had.. The Mini, and the rear racks aren't me the rest are my vehicals. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157625836620518/ PATRICK MOORE wrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: I also have mountain bikes and do get muddy which sucks putting in the car. You need the special bike porteur version for dirty bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? Can you describe these or point to an image url? I may want some to bolt into my Voyager. I carried 4 bikes today, all just shoved in the back with both wheels on. Of course, three were kids' bikes (2 X 20 wheel and 1 X 24 wheel, but those high rise handlebars!) and the biggest was a 57 or 58 cm Motobecane Grand Record, but still Just wish I had the 5 speed turbo version. Patrick love my Plymouth two seater Moore -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Sorry, don't bother, never mind, etc etc etc -- I misread that as carriers that fit INTO the back of the car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3FnpaWQJO0 On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 2:30 AM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:41 AM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? Can you describe these or point to an image url? I may want some to bolt into my Voyager. I carried 4 bikes today, all just shoved in the back with both wheels on. Of course, three were kids' bikes (2 X 20 wheel and 1 X 24 wheel, but those high rise handlebars!) and the biggest was a 57 or 58 cm Motobecane Grand Record, but still Just wish I had the 5 speed turbo version. Patrick love my Plymouth two seater Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I'm also not a tall guy, but I am a car guy. The Element, aside from gas mileage, is a great carrier, but Honda is taking it off the market. As a new vehicle, it's not a viable recommendation. At least one local Rivendeller (see, back on topic!) used a RAV-4 as a bike carrier, to store them vertical in the back, but I think he needed since then to go a different way. Not sure if the current platform is as roomy. Toyota is coming out with a Prius wagon or crossover. I can get two bikes to lay flat in our standard Prius 5-door, so this should be even better. If you like vans, how about the Chrysler vans with seats that fully fold in to leave a tall space with a flat floor? If you like sedans, can you take off the wheels, turn the frame upside down, and place it in the rear seat footwell? Then the wheels can go on the bench seat behind it, oriented so the dirty drive parts will not rest on upholstery. The trunk is then free for gear and luggage, if you're traveling. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
A car guy! Sh! Don't type it too loud! I saw the new Prius-V, it looks promising. And in keeping this Riv/tall boy on-topic, all of these vehicles would have to meet this criteria: Bike loaded in, rear wheel first, still attached, preferably with the seat still in it's riding position, front wheel removed. Point being, a rider with a 56 can get back to his vehicle, and if caught in a downpour, or in a hurry etc, toss it into almost anything. I want to do pretty much that with a 68-70. Kept in this light, a vehicle is just another bike accessory. RGZ On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Ken Freeman kenfreeman...@gmail.com wrote: I'm also not a tall guy, but I am a car guy. The Element, aside from gas mileage, is a great carrier, but Honda is taking it off the market. As a new vehicle, it's not a viable recommendation. At least one local Rivendeller (see, back on topic!) used a RAV-4 as a bike carrier, to store them vertical in the back, but I think he needed since then to go a different way. Not sure if the current platform is as roomy. Toyota is coming out with a Prius wagon or crossover. I can get two bikes to lay flat in our standard Prius 5-door, so this should be even better. If you like vans, how about the Chrysler vans with seats that fully fold in to leave a tall space with a flat floor? If you like sedans, can you take off the wheels, turn the frame upside down, and place it in the rear seat footwell? Then the wheels can go on the bench seat behind it, oriented so the dirty drive parts will not rest on upholstery. The trunk is then free for gear and luggage, if you're traveling. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I don't know that there is a best vehical Maybe it's more a best method based on application. Roof racks have been great from me. Especially when traveling with three people, bikes and gear. They have worked on cars, mini vans and my current Escape. The Element we have will barely get my bike insdie., and I have no chance of getting three bikes, people and gear in it. For around town nothing is easier than the roof rack and it has fork locks, rack locks and cable locks. Bikes getting rained on is no biggie, I ride in the rain and in the mud etc. The brooks saddle cover keeps the seat nice and dry. For me the ideal vehical would be the full sized van with a gear carrier hanging off the trailer hitch. That way I can carry 4 bikes inside with comfortable seating for all and carry the gear. I also have mountain bikes and do get muddy which sucks putting in the car. The rear outside racks I've used tend to promote scatches and dings on the bikes. But for ease of use they are great. The one mini van I had that worked great didn't have a rear bench seat so the rear tires could go between the two rear seats. But I don't have that anymore.. life of company cars that get changed at employers choice every two years. Just as we make trade offs on bicycle tires, gear, comfort on our bikes etc.. we make trade offs with our vehicals. Practical for one is not for the next. For most activities the roof rack covers all my needs. Including ability to carry the Tandem and people and muddy mountain bikes. Bike bras keep the bugs off for longer trips even if it kills gas milage. Point being for me ... it's rare to have a single bike or person going to a ride. Ability for minimum of 3 and 4 would be better. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? From: t...@cox.net Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well, Jim, that was the initial concern. I have a pick-up that is my company work truck and have a bed rack in there. So far so good. But it's when one wants to travel, and you are staying overnight, or you stop for a bite to eat, or it's really raining. These are pretty nice bikes that can get crudded up pretty quickly, components aged quickly and in the case of a Brooks, potentially ruined. As I'm ending up w/ more time to be able to wander around, I was just looking for the type of vehicle described here and depending on the generosity of this group to relay their experiences. So far that's 3 for the Element. It ain't the sportiest thing out there to be sure but it does make sense. RGZ On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 10:41 AM, jim phillips thefamil...@hotmail.com wrote: Do you guys not use the carriers that fit onto the back of the car? That is how I am transporting my Sam Hillborne (aka Crazy Horse). Is there a downside to that? best, JimP Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? From: t...@cox.net Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 10:02:56 -0500 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I have a Honda Element too and I think it is ideal for a bike and gear carrier. I use fork holders mounted on pieces of old Trex decking to lower the bikes to make easy entrance to rear hatch. As an exercise I managed to fit four bikes alternating front ends and back ends but three is more practical (this is with both seats removed). As to comfort, I have made two trips to the mountains of Colorado from Cleveland with my element which were ok sitting in the front seat. I made a trip to North Carolina with four guys in the car where I got to sit in the back which was annoying with the rear seat theater seating. However, on all those trips the mpg was right around 30 mpg on the interstates. On Jan 15, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Angus wrote: I also drive a Honda Element, specifically purchased because I can get my bikes inside. I remove the front wheel and get the 64cm Ram vertically inside The Toaster. I fold up one rear seat when carrying a bike and can use the 2nd rear seat as a changing room if necessary. The rubber/plastic floor is easy to clean up. I don't find the Element particularly comfortable, but it's good enough, has plenty of leg/head room and is very versatile. Angus On Jan 15, 6:01 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
When I say sex referring to a car I mean the following. You know when you see an older guy, like me, driving down the road in a hot car and they're being SO careful to not inflict too much damage and they don't want to ruin it, and do you know what this car's gonna be worth some day? To me that totally misses the point. If I buy a Mustang GT500 et al, when I'm finished with it, it will be the auto equivalent of Keith Richards. Every time I drive it I'm going to know it's a GT500, not preserve it so I can brag to my friends how it's been babied it's whole life. A bit OT here, I know, but sometimes that's where these things lead us. A Scion XB, though lacking AWD, might work also. RGZ On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:27 PM, rperks perks@gmail.com wrote: Sexy is a state of mind, Google turned up this gallery: http://www.motivemagazine.com/gallery/gallery.html?c=show_thumbs;p=Manufacturers/Ford/Europe/Tourneo Connect/Interior draw your own conclusions As for the Golf, the back seat is fully removed on the side behind the driver to make room for the rear wheel, passenger side is folded down. This just fits my bikes by fractions of an inch, saddle height around 86-88. Main reason I worked this out was similar to yours, security and weather. If it were not for the wife and baby I would have pulled all but the driver seat out, think road warior. On Jan 13, 5:23 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr Wrangler might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the floor/ceiling distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have enough sex as far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr Wrangler might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the floor/ceiling distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have enough sex as far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have the spare wheel Thule Rack. I like it. But if it rains Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:28:46 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Standard loading procedure: 1. Take front wheel off. Lean front wheel on side of vehicle. 2. Slide Homer in trunk of vehicle, back wheel first. Homer must be diagonal to fit fully. 3. Place front wheel in remaining open space in vehicle securely. RGZ - why not build a stand for your wheels? Sounds like a fun winter project and an excuse to go down to the hardware store ;) For us tall guys, it helps if you have an SUV / Station Wagon. I've contemplated loading it in a car with the rear seats folded. To do this I'd remove both front and rear wheels, lower the seat post and stem and then slide it in. I'm considering a car-rack/trailer hitch for vacationing this spring and summer ... anyone have any experience with Yakima or Thule tow- hitch racks? Ami On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have a fleet of vans-27 Fords and one Sprinter w/ 265k on it. We normally turn them over @ 160, but we're pushing the Sprinter to the last mile. Been very reliable. Can't get a Dodge any more, only M-B or Freightliner. There was a guy on the web a few years ago who customized one for sailboarding. May still be on there. I like the VW solution because I'd love a GTI. Do you remove the seatpost? RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rperks perks@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:57:39 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Take a look at the Ford Transit connect. My buddy has one and we get two decent sized bikes in there. I can get my 63cm bikes into the VW Golf, but that is with one rear seat removed and the other folded down. Even with that the seat is like 1/8 from the headliner and people cringe when I shut the back hatch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/5254096133/in/set-72157625583483616/ Smaller than the TC above and you a likely looking at seat removal, other than that you are in van territory. I dream of a Dodge Sprinter. Rob On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: 4WD-you probably got the same 30+ we got yesterday. Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. A certain fun factor too. RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
