[RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
I am looking to get my first of two Rivendells and having a problem deciding which is the best to go with. I have decided that I absolutely need an Atlantis set up as an all-around tourer. I am confused on the next bike though which will be the first one ordered as I don't have a tour planned in the near future. I want a trail- bike that I can take on some of the singletrack nearby but also want it to have a small front and rear rack to be able to carry some bags. The trails aren't too technical and a non-suspended bike with 2 tires should be awesome on them, the racks would be to hold stuff to go on overnight lightweight camping trips. I am looking at either a Bombadil or a Hunqapillar and am stuck deciding which one. I have a PBH of 77 and weigh 220, so a stouter bike is probably the way to go. If I am figuring this right, I would require the smallest size with the whatever frameset I go with. I'm just not sure which one to go with, or if they are even that much different. I guess it comes down to what size wheelset, 650 or 26. What are your opinions on it? Do you think the Hunqapillar would make a better bike for singletracking/camping because of the 26 wheels or would the larger size be better? I like the looks of the paint scheme on the Hunquapillar and the headbadge is killer, but a solid colored powdercoated Bombadil would be a durable bike for many years. I think a white one would be cool looking. Any thoughts, comments or anything? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Both of your suggestions sound good. Alright, I guess I need three bikes, wait, no four. On Aug 25, 8:11 pm, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Another thought (actually, two thoughts): 1) How about an Atlantis, two wheel sets, two switchable cockpits plus a Roadeo for fast road rides? or, 2) How about an Atlantis as per above, and a Gomez mixte (650b) with Alba bars for errands, commuting, rain (with fenders) and occasional trails? From: RJM rjme...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 2:30:58 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? Thanks for all the suggestions. I was thinking two bikes because one would have drop bars, barcons and front and rear pannier racks and the other bike, the trail worthy bike, would have bullmoose bars and paul's thumbies with a small front and rear rack. I could probably do with one bike though, maybe with an albatross bar set up and just swap rack setups or wheelsets. It's definately a good idea. I guess one question would be, Would the Atlantis be the better choice or would the Hunqapillar/Bombadil be the better all around bike? I do like the look of the Atlantis frameset, but wonder if a slightly sloping top-tube would be beneficial with my short PBH. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Interesting idea. I was thinking along the lines of making the bombadil or hunqapillar a bullmoose barred, paul thumbie, small racked with small bags when the needs arise, singletrack capable machine and the Atlantis the tourer with drop bars and panniers. If an Atlantis will work fine on the trails too, I could just get a second set of wheels for that too. It may be the route I go. Do you think the sloping top tube on the hunq or bomb will offer me better stand over than the Atlantis, so in other words just get one of those instead of the Atlantis? On Aug 25, 6:49 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean thomaslynnsk...@comcast.net wrote: My initial attempt at setting up multiple cockpits is going *very* well for me. Get the one bike; and get what you need to make it three or four bikes as desired. I highly recommed daVinci bar-switch kits for this purpose. They don't address the front brake issue... But... it turns out that if you have a Paul motolite brake up front then simply getting an extra hooked canoe and noodle (moto kit) for each bar really makes things easy. I've got Albatross and Moustache bars set up this way for my Hillborne. Makes it two completely different bikes. The initial set up of the da Vinci splitters is somewhat tedious. But on my very first switch of bars I did not have to adjust a thing; my indexing and brakes were good to go. Definitely more economical than multiple bikes. Yours, Thomas Lynn skean On Aug 25, 5:16 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Bombadil; they were similar enough in function (actually, VERY similar) that I stripped the Bomba and am in the process of rebuilding it as a Bullmoose barred, Rohloff-equipped bike of the apocalypse. Which I guess is a roundabout way of saying that I agree with those who are urging you not to make an Atlantis and a Bomba/Hunq your two Riv bikes -- there's a lot of better variety in their offerings, especially the Homer. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I started with an AHH and then added a Bombadil with the idea that the AHH would be my road bike and the Bomba would be my MTB/eventual touring camping bike. Both with 700c wheels. The Bombadil proved to be too large and I exchanged it for an Atlantis that ia virtually identical in it's geometry to the AHH which fit perfectly. The smaller Bomba was for 650b tires and I wanted to have the same wheels for both. I second Ray that if you only get one bike, it should be the Atlantis with the extra wheelset The second shouldn't be a Bomba or Hunqua, it should be a Homer. An Atlamtis and a Bba/Hunqua is like having two for the same purpose. The idea of two Atlantis with different bar configurations is quite intriguing... But I'd rather experwnt first, choose the preferred setup and have one bike of each: AHH + Atlantis. I just love them! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at(212) 735-3000and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
Yes, I do see that it would be like having two of the same bike. Maybe a Hillborne/Hunqapillar-Bombadil mix? On Aug 25, 5:16 pm, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I have an Atlantis and a Bombadil; they were similar enough in function (actually, VERY similar) that I stripped the Bomba and am in the process of rebuilding it as a Bullmoose barred, Rohloff-equipped bike of the apocalypse. Which I guess is a roundabout way of saying that I agree with those who are urging you not to make an Atlantis and a Bomba/Hunq your two Riv bikes -- there's a lot of better variety in their offerings, especially the Homer. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 6:05 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails? I started with an AHH and then added a Bombadil with the idea that the AHH would be my road bike and the Bomba would be my MTB/eventual touring camping bike. Both with 700c wheels. The Bombadil proved to be too large and I exchanged it for an Atlantis that ia virtually identical in it's geometry to the AHH which fit perfectly. The smaller Bomba was for 650b tires and I wanted to have the same wheels for both. I second Ray that if you only get one bike, it should be the Atlantis with the extra wheelset The second shouldn't be a Bomba or Hunqua, it should be a Homer. An Atlamtis and a Bba/Hunqua is like having two for the same purpose. The idea of two Atlantis with different bar configurations is quite intriguing... But I'd rather experwnt first, choose the preferred setup and have one bike of each: AHH + Atlantis. I just love them! René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. ------ To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ======- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?
The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution, sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which isn't a terrible thing. I'm not sure what route I am going to go with yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or two, so I have some time. Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable bike. I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though. I have some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be a trail worthy bike. On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision about a touring bike from there. --mike On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: This is a great option! An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2 punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice. On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops
I actually would rather have albatross, flat bar/bar end combo or a mustache than drop bars. I don't like using brifters and find most drop bars too skinny, plus I don't like to ride in the drops so the bars aren't for me. The wider the better for me. I can't say I have ever wanted drop bars and not had them. On Aug 27, 5:43 am, kevin lindsey lindsey.ke...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings. I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic reasons. I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose riding. Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops. In other words, are there clear advantages of one over the other? I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very much if I switched. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: In praise of versatility
Nice bike. I have pondered which first riv to get and the Bombadil makes the top two everytime. I know exactly the setup I want for it if I choose the Bomba, just don't know if it will beat out the Atlantis that I have built in my head as my first Riv. On Aug 31, 6:56 pm, Kip Otteson kip.otte...@gmail.com wrote: I love my Bombadil's versatility. I don't know how a do-all bike should feel but this one can ride the trails and the street seamlessly. I don't think I'll be hucking rock gardens as I did with the knobbies and no fenders, but this setup still will allow me to ride some reasonable dirt. I really like how the Schwalbe Fatties are rolling along. However, they are very heavy! I feel like this bike is a green Hummer type thing. Just what I wanted. On a side note...am I missing a bunch by not having a more roadish Riv? http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4935360348/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Moustache vs. Noodle bar reach overlay with pics
I have always heard to set up mustache bars with a shorter stem and one that is higher (compared to drops) and it has worked for me in the past. A longer stem makes me feel like I am reaching too far all the time. The one thing you miss out on with mustache bars vs. drops is a good lower position. I find that on drops just having that extra lower position really helps with comfort on longer rides because I can change my back position. It helps with the backache. Now, on drops you can get a real nice reach when you use road brake levers. It is almost like getting into a time trial position, but not quite. Helps the back too. I like mustache bars quite a bit but am not running them on any bikes currently. Once I get the Roadeo built up with drops, I was thinking of putting mustache bars on the Hillborne. I really liked the mustache bar when I had my Jamis Aurora up and running with them. They did get comments though. On Wednesday, April 3, 2013 6:56:02 PM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Just FYI for anyone who is interested which bar has a longer/shorter reach. As you can see, I laid the 'stache over the noodles, lining up the clamp area of the stache to where the clamp on the stem is and looks like moustaches have a shorter reach than noodles both at the hooks and bar ends by about almost 2cm. Keep in mind that the mouth of the hand (between thumb and first finger) will be behind the metal part of the stache bar hook and not on a hood, like on drops. But will it* feel* like a shorter reach in real use (that would be good!)? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Decent $500-$600 off the shelf bike???
How tall is she? I have a Novara Safari sitting around not doing anything and it would be fine for something like that. It's a small one though. On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 3:12:26 PM UTC-5, EastBayGuy wrote: So my little sister is looking into getting a new/First bike. she plans on going on a few S240's and will be commuting in the somewhat flat Davis, Ca area. She is on a College Grad/working at Panera Budget. My question is does anyone have any recommendations for a decent off the shelf bike that is capable of strapping some gear onto and heading into the hills? Thanks in Advance.. Dustin G WC Ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
I love the look of those hubs. Nice hunqapillar in the photos on that page. Really nice. On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:39:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Understandable. I still think there is a market for quality 5 - 7 speed friction shifting stuff. I know I would buy a couple of freewheels since I have two wheelsets with Phil freewheel hubs. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:17:47 AM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37:03 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Welcome development especially so if quality approaches that of its parent. If they bring back the Winner Pro freewheel I would take special note. Wonderifthese are made inJapan or sub-contracted out. Most of the classic Japanese names no longer have any factories. The old tooling is long-gone. None of the skilled workers remain. For example, Dia-Compe is little more than a warehouse in Taiwan. The new SunXCD parts are sub-contracted out, mostly to Taiwan, it appears. It's great that some of the old names are involved, but it remains to be seen what they can achieve. (Remember that Mr. Kawai is in his 90s.) There are small shops in Japan that never did close down, like Nitto and Honjo. They still make their own products the old way. Regarding freewheels, Compass Bicycles has looked into bringing back true high-quality freewheels, but it's very difficult. First, there isn't anybody with the know-how any longer of how to make these, and second, freewheels have huge economies of scale. There are many different small parts, which means huge tooling costs. The actual production costs once you have the tooling are very small. So if you sell 100,000 freewheels a year, you can offer them at a decent price. But if you sell 1000, the price goes up tremendously. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
I would be alright with some nice choices in 7 speed cassettes and chains. I have been using the IRD freewheels on my Rivy hubs without much to complain about. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:35:04 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Steve P nails it. Many of these old-skool design ideas might fill a niche within a niche within a niche. Given the previously mentioned issues with freewheels, and not many upsides except low cost, the people still using them are devoted antiquarians, those who spec dept store bikes, and those of us in the business of fixing 1970s bike boom bikes. It's hard to see a new $50+ freewheel being a hit with any of those groups. And freewheel connoisseurs are not wearing out freewheels fast enough to be much of a target market. Obviously Shimano and the smaller companies who make FWs abandoned the high-end segment of that market years ago. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Atlantis
Nice wheelset on this bike. Man, if it were my size I would be jumping all over this. Bummer. Good luck on the sale. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:57:30 AM UTC-5, Matt Gilkey wrote: Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. I love bikes. Steel ones. Lugged ones . Oooh green ones, I really like green bikes. As a result I have too many bikes and would like to get down to just two. So I am selling my Atlantis, which I never thought I would do. It is a great bike that I really love; I just don’t use it that much anymore. It is a very versatile frame. I have run it with 26x1.5 in tires, 26x2.1 tires, and 650b hetres. I have used it for mountain biking, road rides, and camping. I purchased the frame about 3 years ago from a list member in pristine condition. Since then it has seen a lot of use, and has a lot of beusage in the form of paint scratches. No dents or dings. Most of the scratches are from being on a bike rack and from chain suck. The worst set of scratches is on the top of the down tube and is from the pedal of another bike on a bike rack. I have painted over most of the scratches with the correct color paint. There is also a very small gouge in the drive side chain stay from the chain getting stuck. I have taken multiple before and after pictures in order to be as detailed and honest as I can. Also, I have removed most of the shellac drips shown in the pictures. I want whoever gets this bike to be as happy with it as I was, so please ask questions. I am asking $1700 which includes shipping to the lower 48. Sale includes the 26in wheels (not the 650b ones), 26x1.5 schwalbe marathon racers, and panaracer smoke/dart 26x2.1 tires. Bottle cages are not included. Below is a build list. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com* javascript:. Thanks. 56 cm Atlantis frame Sugino XD2 triple crankset 46x36x24 Shimano slx front derailleur Shimano xt rear derailleur Shimano 8spd bar end shifters currently set up for friction shifting Nitto moustache bars with shellacked cloth over cork tape Nitto dirt drop stem Phil Wood “Rivy” freewheel wheel set with velocity aeroheat 26 in rims, built by Rich at Rivendell IRD 7 speed 13-32 freewheel, no issues with this one. I will also include an extra used suntour freewheel. MKS touring pedals that are a little beat up but spin smoothly Brooks flyer saddle Nitto seat post Shimano deore v-brakes, have enough adjustability for 650b wheels Phil wood 108 mm bottom bracket (runs the chain rings a little close) https://picasaweb.google.com/116766706625339314401/Atlantis# https://picasaweb.google.com/116766706625339314401/Atlantis#5867323982235366290 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations
They seem to hate on Rivs though. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:53:13 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: There is also the CV section at Bike Forums. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:27:34 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote: This one is a good positive group: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/bicycletouring And there's also Bicycle Lifestyle - which is PJW's group. Excellent. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bicyclelifestyle On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:44:13 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: Is there a good group for general C V? General Camping/Touring? Mechanics? I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!
They are too here, but it is usually copper or aluminum, not bike rack steel. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote: Where I'm from scrap metal thefts are a HUGE problem! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Thanks and search for 36 hole front hub
I have a sora hub, hb3300 that has been sitting around collecting dust. I will just send it to you if you wanted it. 36 hole. On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:13:24 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: First, thanks again and very much to the great generosity of listers who have made it possible for me to build this Ram despite my currently short finances. I am surprised and touched by the generosity and consider it a duty to pass on such generosity as and when I can. Thanks in particular, this time, to Kelly who just offered me a wheelset (minus front hub, of which more in a minute) for shipping. I need a 36 hole front hub and would prefer silver and Shimano but will take silver and anything. To trade, have two good 32 hole hubs, one a SunTour (XC500?) -- the one sold by Rivendell 15 years ago. The cartridge bearings were replaced shortly before I switched the wheel for one with a Phil. The other is an Ultegra from the mid 90s, don't know model, but it's silver too. I also have a few other things to trade including a very nice pair of silver M324s. Thanks again, all! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] BOM - 51cm San Marcos is awesome.
I don't know what it is about this build, but I just love it. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff21.htm That frame color is just really cool (even though orange is the best frame color ;) ) I really dig the sloping top tube with the alba bars high up there. ANT was making a bike called the Scorcher for a time that I really dug and this reminds me of it. Not totally the same, but close enough. http://www.flickr.com/photos/lovely_bicycle/4291532263/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/bikeportland/5477800018/ This San Marcos looks totally comfortable, capable, and fun to ride. I may have to think about another bike, or turn the Sam into something like it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: thoughts on the current state of the Riv-ish bicycle marketplace
Where I live it is very race bike oriented, on the road or on the trail. I don't see too many people riding anything but race bikes dressed in full kit and I don't even think you can buy panniers. Basically Trek and Specialized rule it. Riv is my main bike shop now; I really dig the no shipping on orders of $150 or more. On Saturday, April 20, 2013 7:39:38 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Chris W: that's a good point. I sorta live in a bubble. Not only do I work in a shop where we deal with approximately zero actual racers, very few of my customers own or ride mass market road bikes. Of course, in the twin cities, one can't miss the broad presence of Surly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Not too many people actively posting on this site for such a big amount of Rivs released to the wild over the years.
I do the web thing for this group. Mostly because I cannot stand to look at email, in fact I don't even know which email is set up for this group. I should probably figure that out though. I know I have lost threads or posts because of it, which isn't good. I just like forum formats better than email. This group is awesome though and the subject is right up my alley. It's a daily read for me, but I don't post as often as I would like. Another thing I should change. On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:13:19 AM UTC-5, Skenry wrote: I will vote for the email version of the group. (all of my groups actually). I set up a folder/filter and all of my bike related emails go into a separate folder. I can scroll the threads on my computer, my iPad or my cellphone. Since its Gmail based, I can read it anywhere on any device and everything stays in sync. I figure in actuality, I read maybe 10% of the posts, but when a 'star' a thread, I tend to read them all. Try the email version, you might like it. Cheers, Scott On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:57 AM, Manuel Acosta manueljo...@hotmail.comjavascript: wrote: I find it pretty comforting that in the world somewhere there are a good amount of people that enjoy talking about steel bikes and getting them dirty. Granted a lot of them(myself included) are kind of weird. But weird in a good way. Photo evidence by Stephen. http://flic.kr/p/eeT2Hk -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Suggestion Box: San Marcos
I was in the same boat but popped for the Roadeo. I sold a bunch of other stuff I had laying around taking up space on ebay and the like so I could get the frame. Now I am doing the same thing to get parts to build up the Roadeo. I was looking at the San Marcos too and almost decided to buy that, it looks like a great frameset and I am sure it would make a very good bike. I had a long internal conversation with myself and decided that the Roadeo was the bike I really wanted and in the end I don't think I would be totally happy going that route. I have lusted after a roadeo in orange for years now and just couldn't convince myself that saving that amount and getting something different was going to make me happy. The end result is that I have the frame I really want and less clutter in the house. People who have the San Marcos really seem to like it though. I don't think the fact that the bike not saying rivendell on it is a problem though. Once you are riding it, you aren't looking at the headbadge anyway and the ride is going to give you a smile either way. There are some differences between it and the Roadeo though, especially in my size. It was a choice between 650b wheels on the SM vs 700 for the Roadeo, top tube sloping differences, fork curve/look, contrasting headtube ect. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 10:44:32 PM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote: I considered a Sam. I agree that it is much more handsome than the Marcos. But it is a little heavier than what I'm looking for. I already have (non-Riv) bike that fits the cargo and loaded touring bill. I'm looking for something with more zip, but short of a racing bike. On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 8:25:12 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Just get a Sam. There is only a 325$ difference between them for the frames. If you are gonna get a Riv-build, they are still only about 325 different total for the complete bikes. Problem solved. You can get a Riv for the same price basically. The Sam has a much prettier curve to the fork, and better paint job too. More eyelets, etc. Definitely worht waiting to save up 325 more bucks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, Phil Wood, Carradice, Sugino, Campy, and more....
What are the wheels? 700's, 650, 26 ?? On Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:43:06 AM UTC-5, Matt Gilkey wrote: OK, here we go again.. Hello, My name is Matt and I have a problem. In addition to bikes, I like bike parts. Parts made in America. Parts made in Japan. Oh, any parts really. Shiny pretty ones. And bike frames. And tires. I like those too. So in an attempt to change my bicycle related hoarding ways I am clearing everything out. I have taken detailed pictures in an attempt to accurately show condition. I really want everyone to be happy with their purchases, so please ask questions. Everything is as pictured, as dirty or clean as shown. Everything in the pictures is included unless otherwise noted. Prices include shipping to the lower 48, which I am finding out is more expensive than I realized. PayPal for payment please. Please contact me off list at *mg...@hotmail.com* javascript:. Thanks for looking. -Nitto technomic 26.0 clamp, 10 cm $42.00 -Nitto moustache 25.4 clamp, tape residue and lots of scratches in clamp area $40.00 -Phil wood Bottom Bracket 108mm, approx 2,000 miles, mounting rings not included, $80.00 -Shimano Deore XT rear derailleur, 7 speed, very scratched but functions well $25.00 -Tektro Drop bar v-brake levers, $25.00 -Velo Orange front rack, $45.00 -Mafac Racer center-pull brakes with new pads, $50.00 -Shimano XT front derailleur 34.9 clamp, $25.00 -Topeak Road Master Frame Pump, rubber head is split, length 52-59cm, $30.00 -MKS tour pedals, a little beat up but spin smoothly, $20.00 -Sugino XD2 triple 170mm, 46-36-24, $85.00 -Nitto Noodle 26.0 clamp, 42 cm, $45.00 -Velo Orange City bar (I think it is the porteur model), $28.00 -Sugino XD2 175mm crank set, chain guard-40-32, will include an extra 26 tooth inner ring $85.00 -Shimano Deore Crank set 175mm 46-36-26, $75.00 -Velo Orange Grand Cru 50.4 bcd Crank set (Version 1) 46-30 $95.00 (I found the second dust cap). -Nitto campee rear rack with hardware, smaller size for 26in wheels, never used, $95.00 -Phil Wood 135 mm bottom bracket, no mounting rings, Some scratches on shell, $75.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 8 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 150mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto dirt drop stem 26.0 clamp, 10 cm extension, 120mm above min insertion, $42.00 -Nitto periscope stem 25.4 clamp, 8 cm extension, 190mm above min insertion $38.00 - CampagnoloVeloce CT 10spd double crank set 170mm, 50-34, $70.00 -BM 12V Sidewall Dynamo with Lumotec Oval Plus Headlight and Securelight Plus Tail light with canti brake mount brackets, spare bulbs, spare wheels, and misc. mounting parts $75.00 -Phil wood “Rivy” wheel set with Velocity Aeroheat rims 36 spoke, includes IRD 13-32 7spd freewheel and suntour 13-34 7spd freewheel, built by Rich at Rivendell $375.00. -Carradice Super C front and rear panniers $300 for all four -Campagnolo hub set 36 hole with 13-28 8 speed cassette $40.00 - Campagnolo Racing triple front and rear derailleur’s, 28.6mm front clamp $45.00 for both - Campagnolo Racing Triple 170mm crank set, 50-40-28 $70.00 -Carradice Cape roll, inner pocket stitching cut to make 1 big pocket, $28.00 -Shimano 8spd bar end shifters, lots of shellac residue, friction or index, $35.00 -Hutchison 650bx32mm tires, approx 25 miles on them, great tires just decided to go with Hetres, $80.00 -Bridgestone MB2 or 3 frame, unsure of the year. Had it powder coated by Cycle Art several years ago. Great frame, includes headset and BB. Seat tube = 50cm c-c, Top tube = 58cm c-c. $325.00 - Dave Scott Centurion Ironman road frame. Tange Prestige tubing. Bottom Bracket not included. Seat tube = 59cm c-c, Top tube = 57cm c-c. $275.00. Link to Pictures below https://plus.google.com/photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201#photos/116766706625339314401/albums/5873072009263809201 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I have a Garmin 500 that I use most of the time. I really like the GPS map and the elevation info. I don't generally care about speed or time, but how far I rode is usually something I look at. I thought about getting a Garmin 810 because of the mapping feature but will probably not spend that much. The 500 is fine for what I want. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riding without a computer
I don't have one (smartphone). I'm not saying it isn't useful, but generally I don't need the features of it, I do not want to pay for one and I hate the size of them. I use one of those pay as you go phones from Walmart and barely ever use up minutes on it. Can't stand those kind of gadgets and I abhor talking on the phone...or texting. Our 16 year old sends over a thousand texts a week and he is basically glued to his smart phone all the time. But, I do like the garmin for the bike. I don't have to put any sensors or weird junk all over the bike and it does a very good job of giving me the info I do want, when I want it. It is just a very simple piece of gagetry and does its one thing very well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
I will take all three. Let me see if I can send you an email about them. On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Nancy Seibel wrote: These terrific bags are looking for a new home. Bought them in 2009. They are olive waxed canvas. The Trunksacks have the normal fading that comes with use along with some curling of the leather flaps. They're in great shape, with all fasteners and zippers intact. The panniers have seen less use and are in nearly-new condition, with a spare set of attachment cords. You can buy the bags together or separately; I prefer to sell all 3 together. Price includes shipping. Small Trunksack - 56.00 Large Trunksack- 60.00 Toursack - $160 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iPwwhYjPmhA/UYgyuqwvgJI/Cl0/keIivhVTTyw/s1600/Sackville+Pannier.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_qOXxUwSUnY/UYgy81Z0M0I/Cl8/_sF_LuCEXeQ/s1600/Small+and+Large+Trunksack.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
I sent you an email Nancy, Thanks. On Monday, May 6, 2013 6:56:19 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I will take all three. Let me see if I can send you an email about them. On Monday, May 6, 2013 5:52:00 PM UTC-5, Nancy Seibel wrote: These terrific bags are looking for a new home. Bought them in 2009. They are olive waxed canvas. The Trunksacks have the normal fading that comes with use along with some curling of the leather flaps. They're in great shape, with all fasteners and zippers intact. The panniers have seen less use and are in nearly-new condition, with a spare set of attachment cords. You can buy the bags together or separately; I prefer to sell all 3 together. Price includes shipping. Small Trunksack - 56.00 Large Trunksack- 60.00 Toursack - $160 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-iPwwhYjPmhA/UYgyuqwvgJI/Cl0/keIivhVTTyw/s1600/Sackville+Pannier.jpg https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_qOXxUwSUnY/UYgy81Z0M0I/Cl8/_sF_LuCEXeQ/s1600/Small+and+Large+Trunksack.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack, Large Trunksacks, Toursack
Hey again Nancy, I cannot get on my email until this afternoon so I have to post this here, sorry about that. I will send you the money for the bags this afternoon when I get home from work, thanks. These will go so well with my GAP trip later this year. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Interesting discussion: Riv bikes v. BQ bikes
I think I posted into the comments when that article originally came out. I have to go through it though. I believe she went and bought herself a seven axiom and has since sold the Hillborne. I remember her saying that she never really did carry much in the way of gear on the bike and never took it camping or touring really and there were better bikes for the riding she liked and planned to do. Those being paceline riding and brevets. I agree that with the hillborne she was on the wrong bike for that kind of stuff. I have never had a handling issue with my Hillborne and only bought another riv(Roadeo) because I wanted a quick bike that would be setup for club riding. I personally fall on the Riv side of things and a lot of it has to do with the bike's versatality and handling. On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 9:00:05 PM UTC-5, samh wrote: I was fascinated by the discussion here: http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2011/02/choosing-your-gospel-rivendell-vs.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: BQ and RIV bike diffs
classy hobo...man, I really like that. On Thursday, May 9, 2013 9:59:00 AM UTC-5, grant wrote: I'm late to this one but jusr read Jan's thing about the way he likes bikes and the way I or Riv does, and so...there's really nothing he left out, or to add. One thing to keep in mind that's easy to not keep in mind is that a group like this has already been filtered through progressively finer sieves until here we all are, comparing two species of planaria, while maybe losing the big picture, which includes tigers, volcanos, vaudeville, and black holes. Jan's planaria is rando; RIV's is kind of classy hobo, but they're both practibo and in such similar ways, beautifo. Rando came in the '40s and no doubt had its own influences, but RHerse was at the center of it, and there were a few others (read Jan's book, omg, if I may!). CHobo bikes like ours wouldn't exist without those. I'd be hooking up with assorted Chinese bike factories looking for the best deals on forks and trying to keep abreast of the lastest nanotechnological progress in carbon, or something. So, when it comes to a little more or less trail, a little more or less integration of racks, and big saddlebags versus big handlebar bags---in the picture that's only slightly bigger than the one outside the powerful microscope, it's all the same. Jan's contribution is like salt's contribution, at least that's one way I think about it. He is thumbs-upping Herse and the old French guys, pointing to them, but in doing that he's actually making a huge contribution to modern bikes and styles and tastes, educating along the way. Of course, there's nothing TO take away from the old Frenchies (as I call them, but I'm sure Jan has never), but because of the size of the bike-riding population today, Jan is himself more influential, and I'm one he's influencing. Periodically, while he's up there doing his thing and I'm down here doing mine/RIV's, we get tossed into the ring as antagonists, which makes us both feel weird, sinceit ain't like that at all. I've known Jan for close to 20 years. What we have in common brought us together and keeps us that way. His book is a masterpiece. I've read the whole thing and have dipped into it many times since. It's soothing to the eyes and feels like a cozy blanket on a chilly evening (the chilliness coming from non-planarial bikes!) G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: How do you like your Rivs on centuries or longer vs. your modern geometry aluminum/carbon road bikes?
The Domane is a comfortable bike and if I cared enough to spend a bunch of money on carbon fiber, compact cranks, and 10 speed brifters I would be looking at one. I just do not really like any of that so it isn't really the bike for me. It is a comfortable bike though and it deals with vibration well enough. I think the Domane I rode had 25s and can take 28s if I remember correctly. I don't know if my Hillborne would be considered modern or retro, but it seems more comfortable than my older bikes. I have an Olmo from, like the 60's, that is just complete race geometry. Not all that comfortable on longer rides for me. On Monday, May 13, 2013 11:15:28 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Mon, 2013-05-13 at 08:48 -0700, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: Grant's designs always whisper in your ear to take the longer way home, then less direct route, the more adventurous vector. Always. There are a number of reasons for that, with the two main being the ability to run high quality, larger volume tires and the position and geometry of the bike. As Steve points out, there's nothing inherently non-modern about either of those concepts. If you look at some of the latest carbon offerings you'll see several examples of non-racy position. Specialized Roubaix and Trek Domane immediately come to mind; it's also interesting to note that the short head tube racy Madone is a limited, special order item as well. The standard Madone comes with an extended head tube to allow a more upright position. I think it's time for us to challenge those who (like the reviewer of the San Marcos in Bicycle Times) immediately label bikes (especially such as Rivendells) like this as retro geometry or non-modern geometry. It's downright lazy thinking, and if anything, given recent trends such designs are the latest thing, not something quaintly antique. And, honestly, you could work in carbon fiber or aluminum or titanium or thermoplastic and retain some of those attributes. Steel's specific attributes have other benefits in addition to the ductility that allows flex. As in fact actually happens. BQ did a review of the carbon Calfee Adventure which they liked quite a lot, especially http://www.calfeedesign.com/carbon-fiber/model-calfee-adventure/ (includes a link to the BQ review) when fitted with 30mm Cypres tires. Also, the Seven Axiom (titanium, also recently reviewed in BQ) can be had with clearance for 28mm tires and is billed by Seven as a bike for long distances/randonneuring. (Curiously, although these are recently having a surge of popularity in my bike club, none have been ordered with either mounts for fenders or with clearance for 28mm tires.) The biggest limitation appears to be either the availability of carbon forks with appropriate clearance, or the mind-set of the manufacturers. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: How do you deal with scratches on your frame?
I don't do a thing for my scratches on my hillborne. If it starts to rust I will probably just do what grant did in the video and find some of the wife's nail polish and use that to cover it up. I found it funny that I got an advertisement for Hawk Racing bottom brackets in that video. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS/9-sp Ultegra group
I am pretty interested for my Roadeo build. Cosmetically, how is the set? On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:21:13 AM UTC-5, Rich Lesnik wrote: A friend has recently undergone surgery w/complications, and has a 9-sp low-miles (like, maybe 200?) Ultegra group (minus hubs) for sale. Parts listed below. Asking $400, incl. shipping to lower 48. Shimano 6503 triple crankset, 175mm + bottom bracket. Shimano 6503 rear derailluer, long cage. Shimano 6503 front derailluer. Shimano 6503 9 speed front rear brifters. 9 spd cassette chain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Rivendell Roadeo Report Requested.
I have been looking at purchasing a Roadeo to compliment my Sam Hillborne as a fast club riding bike. I am starting to do quicker rides, going with a group about three times a week along with longer distance rides on the weekend and really need a bike that is specifically for road riding of this type. I have contemplated putting together a skinny tire bike as I have a frame hanging in the garage but I have to confess that the idea of the skinny tires and carbon fork don't appeal to me all that much. It is a 2000 Lemond Zurich frame and fork so I do believe I could just sell it for what I bought it for if I don't turn it into a bike, so it really won't be a loss. The Sam Hillborne is a great bike, I love it, but I have it set up for touring and am using 650b wheels, friction bar end shifters and have installed the Sackville bar sack along with a rear rack. It is a wonderful bike to ride but I don't think it is the kind of build for the kind of riding I would use the Roadeo for. It just is getting to the point I think I may benefit from a quicker bike than the Sam. I believe I would be much happier in the end if I went with a Roadeo, or something like it (fatter tires, room for fenders, and steel fork) over the Lemond. I have a brand spankin new full Ultegra 6700 groupset all ready for a build, but would need to purchase wheels, handlebars and other stuff along with the frame and fork if I decide to go with the Roadeo. Anyway, that is the backstory to my predicament. What I was hoping for if those of you who own and ride a Roadeo can give me some of your honest opinions of it. What are some of the things you don't like about the bike, what do you really like about the bike? Most important I guess would be is if you find it quick enough for group riding in, say, the 18-22mph range? Did you go with the threadless setup or stick with the threaded/quill stem? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pTL1Q522HdAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Someone scratched my Brooks...advice?
I can't help you with the buffing, but will say that my black b17 has several scratches and marks on it and it doesn't seem to matter much with the functionality of the saddle. I scratched mine up fairly bad the first week I had it and since then I just don't care how it looks anymore. On Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:46:27 PM UTC-5, Brett Lindenbach wrote: I am used to people admiring my Bleriot around town, and it is not atypical for me to exit a shop to find someone gawking at my bike. A few times even noticed some college kids taking pictures of it as I sipped my coffee inside. Was disappointed the other day when I came out to find that someone had marred my Brooks saddle. I could chalk it up to beausage, but it makes me unhappy. What's the best way to buff it out? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ImCJhJRCYmMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike lust.
I think the photo on the Riv site of the white and red Roadeo with Sram Force components did this to me. I'm currently saving for one now. I love my Sam Hillborne, but the Roadeo will fit some of the faster riding I am doing much better. On Monday, March 12, 2012 2:48:32 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: Have you ever happened across a photo of a bike that makes your blood boil in a good way? One that makes you want to build one just like it and ride it around the world...for the rest of your life. I stumbled on this one in the flickriver and it has my Hilsen on the verge of being sold off for an Atlantis. Hopefully this is someone here so they know I think this is one of the best Rivendells I've laid eyes on. Rivendell Atlantishttp://www.flickr.com/photos/88057131@N00/5956828630/sizes/l/in/faves-42027576@N00/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/cAUm3ufSBw4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rode My First Rando Event Today
Way to go, sounds like you had a great time. I love to go on longer distance rides but never had a chance to participate in an organized ride like that. It looks like quite a fun time. On Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:38:28 PM UTC-5, Smitty wrote: Thanks for all the tips everyone gave in my previous post asking for Randonneuring advice. I put much of it to use today and had a successful ride. The forecast called for 100% chance of rain showers. We got a few minor sprinkles, lots of clouds and a decent amount of sunshine. I came prepared for 100k of riding in a downpour. Instead I should have wore sunscreen. No bonk or nutrition/cramp issues... I believe largely thanks to tips from the list. My goal was to finish in 6 hours (a little over 10mph average) and I got my card signed at 5:55. Perhaps I could have pushed myself and gotten a slightly better time but that would have eaten into my breaks, conversations, and scenery gazing. I don't really feel the need to jump right into the longer brevets but it's likely I'll be back for more 100k rides. My control card proved it happened, but it's on it's way to France. These pics will have to suffice.https://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/OregonRandonneursSnoozevillePopularie100k?authuser=0feat=directlink cheers, Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4vTC-SEsMsEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Belated introduction
Great looking Sam. I really like the green color they are painting those now. Actually, all the colors of the Sam have been pretty nice looking. I have a 48 Sam in orange and have to say it is the most comfortable bike I have ever owned. I rode 60 miles this past Sunday and never once felt pain, either back, butt, or neck, the whole time. Just a great bike. Have fun on it. On Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:12:32 AM UTC-5, Steven Silbert wrote: Hello Everyone! In October of last year I was lucky enough to purchase my very own Sam Hillborne. I sold my cross-check (too small 56cm for a 6' tall guy) and car, and I have not regretted my decision one bit. Every day I arrive at my destination with a huge grin on my face because every ride is so pleasant. I was afraid of getting such a large 60cm frame at first, but it turns out to be just fine. I finally managed to get some photos up on flickr so enjoy. Hopefully I'll get some better pics of Sam and I cruising along the Monterey Bay coastal bike trail soon. http://www.flickr.com/photos/76132654@N02/6983971041/ Steven, Monterey CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Vry4eOcBx1AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New HC poster
Great poster!!! Love it. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:56:25 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Our posters have been popular among the most tasteful members of this group, though the RBW connection is not direct. Anyway, here is the version for 2012. The quantity are limited to 100-ish. http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/03/hc-poster-for-2012.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/eoz6VTASzycJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Drivetrain for my Atlantis
If I was going to upgrade to more modern componentry on an Atlantis, I would be more apt to go with something like Sram Apex. Plenty of gear range, modern style brifters, and still lightweight enough. On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 4:25:06 PM UTC-5, sanjoser wrote: hello everyone I've had a mix of components on my atlantis for it's life, these 10 years or so. different shifters, hubs, gears, drivetrain, etc. I've got the urge to do an upgrade, and I'd really like to go campy. I've been advised that my chris king hubs are fine, so long as they get serviced every six months, so I guess I'll keep those, but everything else is up for change. This is my goto bike for commuting and tours. I guess I don't have to explain that to this group. So, what 's the consensus? best regards tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ujty2PIg1BUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: How long did your Brooks saddle take to break in?
My regular old black B17 took no time at all to break in, comfortable from the start. It has started sagging lately (they can take only so much of my fat butt) so I have tightened it up a little, but I fear in time I will have to lace it up or do something else to stop the sagging. The B17 special I bought for the Sam Hillborne has taken a little while to break in, I say about 250 miles. It felt different than my other saddle at first but now it is pretty comfy. I like the looks of the honey colored special better than the black, and the copper rails really make it go well with the orange Sam Hillborne. I haven't had to adjust the tension of the leather at all and have about 1000 miles on it so far. It has held up a bit better then the black brooks I have. Great saddles. On Saturday, March 24, 2012 5:07:06 PM UTC-5, Fullylugged wrote: Mine required 300 miles. A new B17 went on the repainted Road Std at the beginning of the year and today, it felt noticeably better. I rode a Metric, sans a chamois in the shorts and it was fine. I'll give it a go for a century next weekend. This is the first time I actually kept track of break in time. My Selle Anatomicas are basically break in free, although they do feel better after about 50 - 100 miles. Btw, the Road Std is a wonderful bike. They come up for sale from time to time and aren't super pricey. I guess they're not especially rare. Worth a look at. Kind of a racy Waterford front end mated to a relaxed seat tube and long chain stay Riv rear section. Reynolds 753 frame and 531 fork. It's a sweet ride. Bruce -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vpewC5P15r4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using a Sam Hillborne as a go fast-ish bike
I did a ride last night on my Sam, 19 mph average for about 22 miles, fairly flat. I have it set up with bar end friction shifters, noodles, pari moto tires on 36 spoke, velocity dyad/phil rivy 7 speed hub wheels. I wouldn't say it is a go fast bike, but if you want to push it you certainly can on the Sam. I couldn't keep up with the fast group on the ride, but I did pull a small paceline at that speed. I don't really consider that fast though, and the Roadies generally go faster than that. Frankly, I have been looking hard at a Roadeo for these kinds of rides. I really wonder what the speed difference would be. On Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:13:21 PM UTC-5, SeanMac wrote: I'm considering pulling the trigger on one of the new blue Sam Hillborne's. They look like really wonderful bikes. Strong, versatile, attractive are words that come to mind when I think about this bike. These are qualities that I find attractive. However, I also like to go fastish. Can I do this with a Sam as well? I'm pushing 45 years old. A few years ago I had a custom made go-fast bike built for me. That bike goes fast, but is limited in what it can do. I also have a Trek 520 Touring bike. This bike, obviously, is built for touring. Its not very fast, nor very lively. In short, my Trek isn't much fun to ride. I'm looking for a bike to fit in between these two bikes -- one that will be able to carry a few bags and ride on stone dust bike paths (such as the Erie Canal path), but one that will not feel sluggish to ride (like my Trek). Most of the time, when I see photos of Sams, the bikes seem to be set up to be workhorses -- carrying a collection of bags and racks. I want to be able to do this with a bike (thus the attraction to the bike in the first place). However, I would like to use noodle bars and go on fast-ish club and recreational rides as well. In fact, the vast majority of rides will be 20 - 30 mile out for fun and exercise rides. Is the Sam well suited to this as well, or will it likely feel more like my Trek 520? Most likely I would set up a Sam with Noodle bars and tires such as Roly-Poly or Jack Browns. I'm also considering having a custom built randonneur bike -- one that will be able to carry some load but also feel quick and lively to ride. However, if the Sam will meet my needs, it certainly would be a less expensive alternative. I don't think that my body has any proportions that would make me difficult to fit (5ft, 11 inches tall, PBH 87.5, arm length 35 inches) so I don't think that I *need* to go custom (though it sure is fun to do so!). Any thoughts on whether a Sam would be a good choice would be appreciated. Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zaTdFbmFqB0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VZgDnMxpnN0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 650b Alternatives to Pari Motos.
Thanks everybody for the comments. I really like the Pari Motos, they are fast tires and feel great, I can't really say I have had any issues with the handling or performance. I have a brand new set of Pari Motos sitting in the bike room, but may keep them for events like some longer organized century rides I am planning later on this year. The current tires got less than 1500 miles on them and the back one is down too much to be useable. I could probably get some life out of the front. I had two flats last night riding on the road, rear and front flatted in different areas on the route, both tubes were punctured right in the center, so it isn't a spoke poking through or anything like that, just some sharp road debris I would bet. Maybe I am just riding them too hard and don't realize it, I probably have skidded the bike to a stop a few times. I am strongly considering the Hetres or one of the other Grand Bois tires. How about the Maxi Fasty tires Riv sells, anybody used them? On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 10:11:42 AM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I am looking for some alternatives to Pari Motos for my Sam. I have been having a problem with flats with these tires, and they seem like they are wearing out quicker than I would like. Looking for something that will still have some performance and won't be sluggish on the road but will still be able to take some road abuse. I have a spare wheelset with Fatty Rumpkins for dirt and touring so I have that kind of stuff covered. Any ideas, recommendations or opinions? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/I1ncWyhScVAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: doesn't anyone short ride a riv?
I ride a 48 Sam Hillborne, have a 79 PBH and am 5'6, so not tall. I really think Riv really does design bikes for shorter people, along with the taller people too. You just have to get used to riding 26 or 650b wheels, which shouldn't be an issue if you are short. No toe overlap with my Sam either, great bike. Generally most of my bikes range in the 51 cm range, that is where they are comfy to me. Riv sizing seems to be different though. On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 7:22:35 PM UTC-5, murphyjrfk wrote: it's certainly off topic. i'm short--i say average--but my roommates in college were always quick to point out the harvard study saying short guys are doomed to be poor. you can't buy happiness-but you can buy riv's which will make you happy for almost forever--so in bike sense you can. and i'm still short...(but the stars aligned in my riv-favor for once). but it seems like the average height- based off the frames that pop up for sale or the photos posted-of a rivendell rider is about 8 feet tall--some guys are just born lucky i suppose. there's gotta be short guys/gals out there...but then again grant says small frames don't sell ... i'm super duper happy on my 51cm...average i say not short... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6u68mYvW79sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lighter 650 rims
Sounds good to me, the more the better and I am pretty well married to 650b wheels right now. By chance, does anybody know the weight of the dyad and synergy rims in 650b? On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 5:24:01 PM UTC-5, William wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/7023981885/in/photostream/ I saw this linked on the 650B group. Pacenti will be offering welded, machined sidewall 650B rims that are under 400g later this summer. That's pretty snazzy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/71Z_fZ2e6ggJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: AHH or Rodeo?
I am in the same boat, have a Sam and would like something to ride on the faster rides like club rides. I would really like to know how much faster the Roadeo is compared to a Hilsen. I know, I know, it's all in the engine, but still, would the geometry, tubing, weight of the Roadeo make a large difference over the Hilsen? My Sam uses 650b wheels and a Hilsen in my size would be 650b, but a Roadeo would be 700's. I don't know how much of a difference that would make in the real world. On Tuesday, April 3, 2012 7:01:54 PM UTC-5, Duplomacette wrote: I'm seriously considering adding another Riv to my small stable of bikes. I currently own a Sam and I like it just fine but would like to have another bike with a bit more zip. The Rodeo seems like a good choice and I do like the 700 wheels mostly for more tire options BUT I feel the AHH could be a good choice too if I build it up more as a roadish bike and in the end I'd have a bike a bit more versatile than the Rodeo. Thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-VqGb8JjETsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
I would have bought a SO instead of my Sam, but the Sam actually came in my size (small). The SO would make a great 2nd bike for someone who has an Atlantis or Hunqapillar I would think. On Thursday, April 5, 2012 10:16:12 AM UTC-5, Matt wrote: they are probably discontinued because they don't sell. I remember reading on the Blug that he/Grant attributed the slump in SingleOne sales to the Sam Hilborne. People who were interested in the SO were opting to buy the Hilborne instead. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ftox6WWiR_0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Done talking myself into like the moustache.
Yeah, if you don't like them you probably never will. I have a Jamis Aurora with them and really like them for that bike, but my Sam Hillborne sports narrow noodle bars which I also love. I would suggest Noodles on a dirt drop stem, they will give you the flat section that you want and will still give you the height. On Sunday, April 8, 2012 12:41:57 AM UTC-5, Scotty wrote: I have given myself about a year to like my moustache handlebars. I really want to like them, they look so freaking good on my bike, but I dont. Now I am just not sure what direction I want to go, but I know that I want to be more upright, and I dont want to replace the whole cockpit. I want bars that will take my roadbike brake levers and bar end shifters. Even with the dirt drop stem I feel I am leaning forward too far in the position where the brakes are. I could use some suggestions for bars that give me a closer flat section near the brakes that wont force me to buy everything new. Just the bar. Am I dreaming? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/91VWTC5qsL4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen, 650b
I would buy this frame in a heartbeat if it wasn't for my rather short stature. Bummer. Great looking bike, a shame you are selling it. Good luck with the sale. On Monday, April 9, 2012 9:58:10 AM UTC-5, Pondero wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28889177@N06/4589006536/in/set-72157622988506313 Need funding and space for a new project, and must part with a faithful friend. It's a 56cm frame. I'll need to use wheels and a few other bits on the new project, but can sell frameset plus a few other parts if interested. I'm thinking $1100 for frameset shipped CONUS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5RSnA012UdYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne
On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 10:54:10 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Grant has stated his reluctance in the past to get involved in bikes with IGHs. I don't blame him. It's a case of a lot of people having unrealistic expectations that don't match reality. I kind of agree with Grant on this; plus, I can't find too much wrong with derailer systems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n-IoSOKXfJEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Using modern derailers
I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/N_uLQBfwAjEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers
Yeah, it's pretty ugly. Frankly, all the recent Shimano cranks are ugly as sin. I will probably just stick with the Sugino. Thanks for the suggestions from everybody, seems like it may be a good idea to change the chain to a 10 speed too (which I have on hand anyway). On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 11:57:35 PM UTC-5, Jim M. wrote: Bike aesthetics are not that high on my list of priorities but that Ultegra crank is damn ugly, even to me. Use the derailers but stick with the Sugino, IMHO. jim m wc ca On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:17:13 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X3vjgAIAjVgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers
this was actually going to be my next question. Do you think I should just use the 8 speed chain that I have already (take a link out or two) or go with the 10 speed? Will a ten speed chain work with a 7 speed freewheel? I do love the fact that with friction shifting it makes it so much easier to mismatch parts, makes this kind of stuff fun. If I can use an existing part I would rather do that then break out the new chain. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:26:49 PM UTC-5, William wrote: He'd probably not use a 10-speed chain, since he has a 7-speed freewheel. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 7:10:31 AM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: You'll probably need the Shimano cranks. That 10-speed chain will fall between the rings of your Sugino. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s6PCo8BmPrUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Using modern derailers
So last night I took the drivetrain off the Sam Hillborne and replaced it with the Ultegra stuff. 6700 RD, Crankset, BB and an older Campy FD because the Ultegra is for braze on and I don't currently have a clamp for it. It seems to be working fine with the 7 speed freewheel; I will do a test ride tonight to see if it all works well. The Ultegra crank doesn't look completely horrible, it is the dark grey version and works with the other black components I had on the bike. It contrasts well with the orange frame. On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 8:17:13 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I was wondering if anybody is using modern 10 speed derailers with friction shifting? I have some Ultegra 6700 derailers and was thinking about replacing the aging LX long cage rear on my Sam Hillborne with it. I may replace the Sugino crank and install the Ultegra crank too but don't really know about that yet, I'm more interested in using the derailers. I am using Phil Rivy hubs with a 7 speed freewheel in the rear, Sram 8 speed chain and shifting using Silver bar end shifters. Any issues with using 10 speed derailers with 8 speed chain or 7 speed freewheel that you can think of? (the LX was always a bit too long in the cage area and the gearing I am using I can get away with a medium cage like the Ultegra I have so I don't see that as too much of an issue.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_z71dhlLTcUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Newsflash: High-trail Rivendells work with rear-load bias!
On Thursday, April 12, 2012 8:41:48 PM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote: I recently put a wald basket on the Marks rack on the front of my QB. Can't say I like it much. At rest, anything (like a pair of gloves) causes the front wheel to swing around smartly and slam the brake lever into the top tube (alba bar set up). In motion, my modesty loaded commuting bag slows down the steering intolerably. I was messing around last night and I think I might actually try to put the marks rack with a platrack on the REAR of the QB and strap the bag to that. Anyone ever tried this? Pete in CT I haven't tried the mark's rack but I did do that with my Jamis Aurora using a Nitto R-14 top rack and it worked great. I would think the Mark's rack would also work quite well for it. I put the basket so it sat on the rack longways, which made it not stick out so much on the sides (if that makes any sense). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AQCEadEVQkoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newsflash: Rivendells work with rear-load bias!
No kidding about the t subject being overdone. It sounds to me like a marketing phrase that has caught on or something. On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:11:38 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Edited subject line in deference to GP's request. The t subject has been overworked. dougP On Apr 13, 11:31 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure about high trail or rear load bias, but i am sure that: a platrack with a wald basket zip tied to it and a shopville shopsack and a top rack with a large saddlesack on it on my 64 Sam make it so that I can easily carry a bunch of stuff. bike feels stable, rides smooth, and doesn't get wonky. trips to the co-op, overnight camping, jaunts to downtown meetings with my laptop and other stuff, and riding around for errands are all totally awesome with this setup. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:24:23 PM UTC-4, Esteban wrote: Maybe it is the francophile in me, but I've toured and ridden with a load up front on my Protovelo. I've never ridden with bags in the back until yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7067953309/in/photostream/l... Front low-riders have always felt good on this bike - the low weight up there seems to anchor the steering and the bike feels like its on rails. The rear low-riders on this bike seem to take the weight away unless I'm climbing... or descending - when I can feel the push-pull of the weight back there. Otherwise, its really quite neutral. Who would have thunk?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ner76om_vbAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Newsflash: Rivendells work with rear-load bias!
Great photo! I look at a scene like that and think how much fun it would be to descend; what a great place to ride. On Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:44:29 AM UTC-5, Esteban wrote: I can't seem to edit the subject line myself. I was trying to poke fun, apparently to no avail, of the trail discussions. But while we're on it, here's Eric's high trail: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/4227808845/ On Friday, April 13, 2012 5:51:11 PM UTC-7, RJM wrote: No kidding about the t subject being overdone. It sounds to me like a marketing phrase that has caught on or something. On Friday, April 13, 2012 3:11:38 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote: Edited subject line in deference to GP's request. The t subject has been overworked. dougP On Apr 13, 11:31 am, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure about high trail or rear load bias, but i am sure that: a platrack with a wald basket zip tied to it and a shopville shopsack and a top rack with a large saddlesack on it on my 64 Sam make it so that I can easily carry a bunch of stuff. bike feels stable, rides smooth, and doesn't get wonky. trips to the co-op, overnight camping, jaunts to downtown meetings with my laptop and other stuff, and riding around for errands are all totally awesome with this setup. On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:24:23 PM UTC-4, Esteban wrote: Maybe it is the francophile in me, but I've toured and ridden with a load up front on my Protovelo. I've never ridden with bags in the back until yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7067953309/in/photostream/l... Front low-riders have always felt good on this bike - the low weight up there seems to anchor the steering and the bike feels like its on rails. The rear low-riders on this bike seem to take the weight away unless I'm climbing... or descending - when I can feel the push-pull of the weight back there. Otherwise, its really quite neutral. Who would have thunk?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YCqyU6L9DA4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Poster Update - Twice as Fun! Hi Res on the way!
Great posters. The headtube badge one is really cool. I think I have a really nice place at work to hang one.. On Sunday, April 15, 2012 10:10:55 PM UTC-5, Marty wrote: Troubles with my internet connection today prevented me from uploading a Hi Res file for each of the new posters. I just tried again: No-Go. Big storms in the area and a weak WiFi signal is messing with the big files and kicking me out. As soon as that's resolved, up they go. The deal stands for those who want me to do the work of printing and shipping, but if I can find a way to bring the price down, you'll be the first to know. Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wX15fVdSox4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: pre-ordered a blue Sam Hillborne a few minutes ago
Congrats on ordering the Hillborne. I love mine and think it is the most comfortable bikes I have ever ridden. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:22:12 PM UTC-5, cbone97 wrote: Thanks. Believe me, I spent more than a few months. Nearly ordered a Hunq before the prices went up. Considered an LHT. In the end, I've told myself to take a chance and see if I can't be satisfied with Riv's bargain model. Will let everyone know about the big smile some time in early June, hopefully. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MqnQhmrp0MwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friction Shifting and Riding Tips?
Hey, Bicycling Magazine every so often is good for something. I kid, I kid. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 10:02:56 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: What may seem intuitive to me today came from reading exactly the way you're doing now. It may be possible to teach oneself all the shifting tricks strictly from riding and doing, but I prefer to ask someone who already knows them. My front shifting approach was derived from a Bicycling Magazine article witten 20 years ago by Ned Overend..teaching mountain bike racing, of all things. It made sense; I tried it on the road; it worked. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 7:46:26 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: Joe - Thank you for the response - perfect description, and also the exact opposite of what I have been doing. To some of you guys may just be intuitive or obvious, but it takes me a little bit to catch on to things. I will also tighten the silvers up again. It does seem like I have to * really* have them tight in order for them not to slip on the Sam. I had a Salsa Casseroll that had silvers which was not nearly as finnicky. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 8:09:35 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: Zack, I live in a hilly area so I use all three rings pretty often..this may not apply to your terrain. Like you, I ride flattish roads in the middle ring, but when approaching an incline I'll usually shift to the small ring up front before bottoming out the gears in back. So my conditions are granny-ring for up, middle-ring for flat, big-ring for downhill. I'm using the front shifting to establish the parameters, then fine-tuning with the rear. Now here's where this helps with overshifts on the front: Let's say you're in the middle ring, in the highest gear in back. Look down and what do you see? The chain is angling to the right to get to the smallest rear cog. Now you want to shift the front of the chain to the right, also, to get your highest gear. You're more likely to throw the chain past the chainring in this situation because the rest of the chain is veering that way. But let's say you're only in the *middle *rear cogs, then decide to shift the front . Less chance of overthrow, because the chain started out in more of a straight line front-to-back before the front shift. This works the other direction, too. You're more likely to overshift the granny if the chain is already all the way to the spokes in back. I'm sorry if that's not clear, feel free to keep asking questions. Btw, my Rivendell Romulus came to me with a similar drivetrain, and overshifted like the dickens when I first got it. It was a hard lesson.. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote: FD was from Riv, I had them do the setup last year when I got the bike. It would surprise me if I had already worn out either a chainring or a casette, only rode the Sam for the end of the summer until now, less than 1,000 miles I would imagine. slipping on the cogs, not the rings. have read the sheldon article on chains, and also the one on chain slip. I tried some grease underneath the bb to see if that will help. was just more interested in riding tips than troubleshooting the derailer stuff, as I have seen lots of tips on the derailers but not much on the riding. On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:44:51 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: I noticed a discussion cropping up in the New Chain Skipping thread that I thought it would be worthwhile to dedicate a thread to this, as I have been thinking about it a bit - I am a relatively new bike rider, and change gears as it makes sense to me - when i feel like i need more speed, i shift, when i feel like i am not going to be able to get up the hill, i shift. But I never really learned the right way to do this. I have learned a little about friction shifting just from poking around (lightening up on the cranks when I am about to shift, as an example) but haven't seen a dedicated thread to this, nor have I found a good resource. I know for many of you this is intuitive basic stuff, but I never learned how to ride a bike from anyone that actually knew what they are doing. I generally stay in the middle ring on my front chainring (I have a triple) and use all of the back gears until I need more, and then I shift to either the big or small chainring. I am cognizant of cross gearing, but am probably guilty of doing it once in a while. I have consistently had problems with chains slipping, throwing chains (both off the big and granny rings) across multiple bikes, which leads me to believe I am part of the problem. So how do you ride to ensure that you are treating the bike the way it should be treated? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit
[RBW] Re: Front Rack for Touring With Atlantis
Does anybody know if the Nitto Big front rack fits the Atlantis without the use of P-clamps; does it just bolt right up to the braze on? On Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:34:19 PM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: My Atlantis is built up and riding (gratuitous plug for Saturday Cycles in SLC). An awesome dreadnaught of a bicycle. I'm running a Nitto Mini-Front with a Berthoud bag and decaleur on the front. I'm planning a tour and wondering what y'all use for a front touring rack. I'm thinking of pulling the Mini off and going with the Nitto Big Front. Seems the Berthoud bag would rest on it in fine, especially with the decaleur, and then I could hang the front panniers on as well. But,...wondering if there is some other option where I could keep the Mini-Front and use some kind of clamp on low-rider (Tubus? Bruce Gordon?). Is there a rack that would actually use the fork braze ons other than the Nitto? Suggestions with illustrative photos appreciated. D.G. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_0eYG9-kTDoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front Rack for Touring With Atlantis
I don't have an Atlantis...yet. I am trying to decide between the Atlantis, the Hunqapillar or maybe even a Bombadil for loaded touring and as a camp/trail bike to compliment my Sam Hillborne (more roadish setup). I am on the small side, so it would be 26 wheels on the Hunq or Atlantis or 650b for the Bombadil and was just trying to get a feel for what front rack combo would be appropriate. I believe the Hunq and the Bombadil have threaded holes on the top of the fork crown; I didn't realize the new Atlantis ones did too. I have a Jamis Aurora that has seen better days and probably should be made into a commuter instead of a touring bike. I used it with a Nitto mini front rack and a Wald basket for my last tour. It worked fine, but I would like to be able to get more weight down low if I buy a new touring bike. Thanks for relaying your experience with the quill stem/threaded headset on a front loader. It is certainly something to think about before putting a deposit down. On Wednesday, April 18, 2012 8:08:05 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: There are several excellent front racks on the market, but few work elegantly with the Atlantis fork braze-ons. Do you have one of the new Atlantis forks that have threaded holes on top of the fork crown? I adapted a Surly front rack to work on my touring bike...basically by using some rear Surly rack hardware and mounting it like a rear rack making use of the top-crown connection. It was really strong and clean looking. I'll try to dig up a photo. But there is a downside: I quit using the Atlantis as a front loader, at least with the heavy loads the Surly rack allowed me to carry. I found it unnervingly flexy up front when the front load was substantial. This flexiness led me to conclude that 1 steerers and quill stems were at a disadvantage when carrying lots of weight up front. My Curt Goodrich tourer was 1-1/8 threadless, which felt much more solid up front regardless of how much stuff I carried. A friend of mine reached the same conclusion in the middle of a one-week tour when he tested a compsnion's Surly LHT after complaining that his otherwise gorgeous custom tourer (1 steerer) was scary with a heavy front load. I should clarify that the flexiness did not stop me from enjoying many happy trips and overnights on my Atlantis. The best front load solution I found was a Wald basket that I could clamp on the handlebar and zip-tie to the Nitto mini front. Anchoring the basket between the bar and rack made for a solid connection. Everything that I didn't want in the basket went on the back. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UmikuV8QQWEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis . . . recovered!
Excellent Those officers are great! On Friday, April 20, 2012 4:33:45 PM UTC-5, beckertronix wrote: And it's back! I can't say enough about the two Santa Fe County Sheriff's deputies who spent all morning tracking down my bike. They ended up stopping traffic on one of the busiest streets in town when they saw someone riding my bike. I think they were almost as excited as I was. Thank you all for your thoughts and advice and offers to help - both on and off the list. It's nice to know there are people looking out. It's been a roller coaster of a day, from the sunken-gut when I walked outside this morning to a bike that wasn't there, to having it back before I'd even come to terms with it being gone. Yet another reason it pays to have a unique bike. Thanks again everyone. I'm gonna go ride my bike. -tim On Apr 20, 10:38 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: That really stinks. Hope you get it back. Jay On Apr 20, 4:28 pm, Mojo gjtra...@yahoo.com wrote: So sorry Tim. I know that terrible feeling when you realize the bike is not where you left it. And your Atlantis was tricked out and personalized. (Now that I think about it, perhaps ALL Atlantai are personalized.) Be sure and take pictures of the bike along with your contact information into the local bike shops. And keep an eye on craigslist and eBay. Good luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oFO2Mhz8br4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: new Hillborne
Awesome. Two Hillbornes! You must have found the bike you like, that is for sure. Are the setups going to be completely different? On Thursday, April 26, 2012 8:09:12 AM UTC-5, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: And then there were two! Just like my orange Hillborne, this is a 60cm canti-studded double-top-tube model. I haven't even ridden it yet! There will likely be more photos later. http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/bicycle%20cycling/Samuel%20Green%20Hillborne/glamour?h=a8effb or http://tinyurl.com/7tesljg Should go to the same place. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0eq-7OH_DiQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Miraculously Escapes Weather Debacle!
I like to think of them as a riv-esque rally. . On Friday, April 27, 2012 12:17:56 PM UTC-5, Ablejack wrote: Beautiful photos and bikes along the best trail I've ever ridden. Also I really hate the idea of a Riv Rally. Good thing there was a Kogswell and Surly (both fine bikes) with you to dilute the pretension. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Nbi-dJlJCC0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: a new Riv frame
I have an orange Sam and love it, so far my favorite bike. My bet is that you really like it and you want to ride it all the time. On Sunday, April 29, 2012 12:14:02 PM UTC-5, charlie wrote: Just ordered one of the Green 'Sams' and look forward to many miles of riding this summer. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d0DHzbEEtSAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new A Homer Hilsen feels perfect!
Great looking Homer, I love it. What size is the frame? On Tuesday, May 1, 2012 11:49:05 PM UTC-5, ttoshi wrote: Sunday, I picked up a new black, Rivet Pearl saddle, which really completes my dream brevet bike. It has been comfortable from the very first minute I installed the saddle and my bike now feels like home. I originally had a Brooks Swift saddle on it, but I couldn't get it to feel right. Perhaps it's because I am slightly more upright than my other bikes, and I am setting my seat far back because that feels most comfortable, since I am able to get the weight off my hands. I got a Nitto lugged seatpost because it has extra setback. Brooks saddles don't have long rails, and for the Swift, I pushed it as far back as it would go, but maybe that wasn't enough. Also the seat is not as wide as the Rivet Pearl, so as more weight goes backwards, I think the extra width helps in the comfort. In all fairness, maybe a B17 would have been good too, but perhaps the shorter length of the Brooks rails could have been an issue. Of course, the owner of Rivet Saddles is a local rider who I have finished some adventures with, so I'm happy to be an early adopter, especially when their product is working so well for me. I'll keep training and am looking forward to my first brevet on the bike in June! Toshi http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/6988274342/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DJQKyZrbq4kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just Ride
I had no idea it was coming out on Kindle. That is great news. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 7:43:20 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Am going to wait on a hard copy until Grant is in Minneapolis at Hiawatha Cyclery on May 31st. Pre-ordered the Kindle version, but that doesn't come out until next Tuesday. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 2:43:18 PM UTC-5, Rambouilleting Utahn wrote: In the spirit of the old threads tracking Rivendell Readers, my copy of Just Ride was just dropped off on my doorstep. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vAd0BBeA8TMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Was your RIV sizing right on?
They did me well when I bought my Sam Hillborne. It fits great. One thing is that their sizing number is different for each model, so you may be a 48 on the Sam and a 52 for a Homer, ect. Just a guess on those numbers though. I would go with their recommendations but make sure your PBH is correctly measured. On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 1:28:55 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: Hello All, When you got your Riv's, how was their sizing recommendation for you? I am planning on getting a RIV sometime, and was wondering if I should go by what they recommend (I hear usually larger), or go with my gut (smaller). What's your advice? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qSzcwsRoYlcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Weight of Hunqapillar frame?
Do you think they will be riding Rivs over? I don't want a bike to have unnecessary weight, but also don't buy frames and parts based on light weight. It certainly is a criteria to look at when purchasing bike parts, but higher on the list in my opinion is strength and how long the part is going to last. I bought a Phil bottom bracket for my Hillborne not because of weight (I think it probably weighs more than the original) but because I want it to last 10 years and be serviceable when it does go kaput. Same kind of thing when I buy wheels, saddles, and handlebars. I would kind of like to know the difference in weight between a Sam Hillborne and a Roadeo frame in my size just because weight may be higher on the list of importance with a bike like the Roadeo. Just to satisfy curiosity, which is what looking at weight numbers really is for me. My Sam nearly weighs double what my friends Madone weighs which you can really tell when lifting the bikes onto a car rack, but I keep up with her and usually lead when we ride together. On Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:57:28 PM UTC-5, HappyCamper wrote: Homeland security is on the way to my house as I have obviously hijacked this thread. Sorry folks! - Ryan On May 3, 6:29 am, Jeffrey unclecowb...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone know the weight of the Hunqa frame by itself? I can't find it on the Riv site. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D_Qvntb9qcsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rationalizing a Reduction; Encourage Me
I really like the list you are thinking of keeping. I would definitely keep the Atlantis too. The Sam you should be able to sell for what you paid for it since it is still boxed up I would think. On Saturday, May 5, 2012 12:50:42 PM UTC-5, Ray wrote: I feel a bit foolish even posting such a message, having read in the past so many that are similar. Bike-wise, I feel like one of the 1%, although I am far way from actually being a true One Percenter. So, I want to thin the herd, as it is so often phrased here, and am seeking advice from the group. Actually, I am seeking encouragement, as well as practical comments on the following reduction plan. Will I have my riding spectrum covered without too much overlap? Here is what I have: An Atlantis, fully rigged and used for long-distance touring; occassionally pulling a BOB trailer. A first generation Quickbeam, rigged for city commute. An Yves Gomez, rigged for city commute. A Bleriot, rigged for any kind of riding. A Canti-Romulus, rigged for roading. An un-built, new-in-the-box, Single TT Hillborne, Orange. A Rawland Sogn mountain bike, 650B (Used primarily on fire roads) A Jamis IGH commuter (my beater for city commute in rain) Here is how I see the garage after the reduction: An Atlantis (Or, maybe the Sam) for loaded tours An Yves Gomez for city commute A Canti-Rom for fast rides A Rawland Sogn for off-road -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pcWgfwes4BwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: couple o thoughts on riv sizing sadness
I'm 5-6.5 tall, have a PBH of 79 and am riding a taiwan orange canti post 48cm Sam. It fits wonderfully and that is the size they told me to get. On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 2:29:27 PM UTC-5, Addison wrote: Let me be clear that I love my 53cm Riv AR so perhaps it is moot since I don't know when I'll be getting another Riv... But when I read this description on the website: Five sizes: 48 and 52 fit 650B wheels; 56, 60 and 64 fit 700C. The frame design is expanded, which is not at all like compact. The top tube slopes up 6 degrees, and so the head tube grows in height to intercept it. As a result, it is easy, really easy, to get your handlebar high up where it's comfortable. If you're five-ten, you'll probably be on a 56. Most 6-footers ride the 60. Most five-eighters, the 52. The 48 fits most five-twoers, and most 6-4ers ride the 64. ** It feels like I've been forgotten a bit in the grand sizing scheme of things. Anybody else in the same boat as I am? At least in terms of the production models. 45 and still a tween apparently. :( -- Addison http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SKQWfCYdp-UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose my next Riv!
I am kind of in the market for a Roadeo for club riding, at least I am saving my pennies for one right now. What are the reasons that you think a CAAD10 would be the better bike for those club rides? On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57:04 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My $.02: *Keep the AHH as is, get a properly sized Cannondale CAAD10 for the fast club rides (when in Rome...)* and then get the Hunq which could be for most of your dirt rides and loaded touring. You can ride the AHH in everything in between included mixed-surface rides and supported touring, even some light self-contained. Depending on how fast you ride in the dirt, keep the RH or sell depending on what you find yourself riding (slow dirt = less need for suspension). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/56GZmGjVldgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Help me choose my next Riv!
Good reasons. I am struggling with this decision myself as I have a perfectly good Lemond Zurich frame sitting in the garage that could be a good speedy bike if I put the time into buying parts and building it up, I just don't know if I would appreciate a Roadeo more during the group rides though. Roadeo is probably more comfortable.. Hmmm. Decisions like these are fun, yet sometimes trying. On Thursday, May 10, 2012 11:19:04 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think the Cannondale is better bike (this is the RBW list after all), just a good addition for OP's bike line up. Convoluted thought process: OP said he had a too-small C'dale and wanted to do occasional fast club rides. I presumed he likes that brand but doesn't need a real expensive one as he doesn't do it too much. The CAAD10 seems like the best value in their line up if he wants to stay with a modern racey bike. A Roadeo is close to twice as much $$$ for something he implied (or I read into it) he doesn't do too much, plus it overlaps with the AHH while the CAAD10 doesn't at all. And the $$$ he saves can be put toward a Hunq, which is the heart of the recommendation!!! :-) On Thursday, May 10, 2012 9:06:02 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: I am kind of in the market for a Roadeo for club riding, at least I am saving my pennies for one right now. What are the reasons that you think a CAAD10 would be the better bike for those club rides? On Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:57:04 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: My $.02: *Keep the AHH as is, get a properly sized Cannondale CAAD10 for the fast club rides (when in Rome...)* and then get the Hunq which could be for most of your dirt rides and loaded touring. You can ride the AHH in everything in between included mixed-surface rides and supported touring, even some light self-contained. Depending on how fast you ride in the dirt, keep the RH or sell depending on what you find yourself riding (slow dirt = less need for suspension). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qN4pHm0lMwMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: rene herse crank
I do agree that spending the cash up front is better off in the long run, especially if you are putting quite a few miles on the bike. My Roadeo that I am ordering will be using the new RH crankset, I do hope they live up to their hype. I suspect they will. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8R806QyLnRsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: cameras and biking
I had the first version, the Panasonic LX-1 I believe. I thought it was an excellent camera for biking and loved the whole layout. Too bad I left it on my bumper when leaving a trailhead one time and just completely destroyed it. I would imagine the LX-5 would be a great substitute. On Thursday, May 31, 2012 5:57:30 AM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-31 at 05:30 -0500, Eric Platt wrote: Except for certain film cameras, wouldn't try it myself. I just sweat way too much on rides. Would probably destroy a modern digital camera in a ride or two. It has sort of forced me to focus on smaller point and shoot digital cameras, which are easier to put in handlebar bags. Eventually should spring for a Leica X1 or Fuji X100 or similar. Just can't warm up to the idea of spending a large sum of money on something that is more a toy to me than a tool. And will probably be obsolete or broken in a year or three. Let me suggest the Panasonic LX-5. Plenty small enough to carry in a handlebar bag, smaller and cheaper than the Leica or Fuji, zoom lens that gives you equivalent focal lengths 24-90mm, plenty of manual control and a lot more than a toy. Excellent image quality for a small sensor camera, too. Take a look at the photos I've been taking with it, most on bike rides: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916047@N00/sets/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kwe9ACC0mLEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivs meet in the wild
I saw a Romulus at a Kiwanis bike ride in Southern Illinois this past weekend, I was on my Sam Hillborne. Of course we talked a little about bikes. That Rom was way, way cool. I had my bike stripped down with no bags or racks because I wanted to try and ride a bit quicker and lighter, which I did. I had a great ride. I was also trying out some new tires 650bx32 Hutchinsons from Compass cycles which performed very well. The Romulus owner had a couple of racks and a nice dyno front wheel and lighting setup, plus what looked like a stuffed tiger tied on his handlebars. Very cool bike. I wish I got his name. On Monday, June 11, 2012 7:55:09 PM UTC-5, Steven Silbert wrote: Today I came back to my Hillborne, which was parked in front of Linnea's Cafe in San Luis Obispo, only to find that it had found a friend! A beautiful Atlantis was parked next to Samwise (My Hillborne)... The light blue contrasted with the creamy green was a sight to behold. The owner was waiting for me to arrive so he could meet the owner. I drooled over his Phil Wood built, 40-spoke wheels while he checked out the double top tubes. This whole experience leaves me wondering... does this happen with other bicycle companies? Is it OK for me to get so excited meeting another Rivendell in the wild? I mean it happens with surlys and other companies, but not quite to the same degree.. We talked for like 30 minutes about how much we liked our bikes. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it feels nice belonging to such a cool, tight-knit community of people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_u05L68AmPQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Appropriate technology
Somewhat better than some of the applications it is used for. ;) On Friday, June 15, 2012 3:47:38 PM UTC-5, Horace wrote: Sometimes it is questionable whether carbon fiber is appropriate for a given use. http://www.carbonfibergear.com/carbon-fiber-toilet-bowl/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yDOM2ZPqGKoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My New AHH
Nice looking frame. Should make one dandy bicycle. Yes, I said dandy. On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:57:28 AM UTC-5, blueride2 wrote: https://picasaweb.google.com/107113808916139260792/RivendellAHH?authuser=0feat=directlink Check it out. Beautiful paint and lug work. Waterford does a nice job. I'm in the process of collecting parts for the build. Thank god for eBay! I'm new to the group and have enjoyed reading all of your posts. I'll check in again when I complete the bike. Happy trails to all of you Rivendell riders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9TIKVKzvEt8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster
I just bought one too. I frankly forgot about it the last few weeks; thankfully this blug post came and reminded me to pony up the twenty bucks and get one. I look forward to seeing what it looks like. On Monday, June 18, 2012 7:01:37 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Just ordered mine. The most recent Blug reports that the poster was a bigger deal to put together than the artist had planned, so these will probably become scarce and expensive in the not-too-distant future. Joe Get yours now! Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 12:52:38 PM UTC-7, Jim wrote: Ordered mine last night. How can you resist? Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:22:05 AM UTC-6, Zack wrote: I placed my pre-order last night. I have to say, I am really excited, I checked out DLG's website and his stuff is awesome. I can't wait to see what he has done for Riv. Anyone else pre-order? 20 bucks is pretty much free for a quality poster. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/3x7YkaWk864J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What are your favorite blogs?
http://kentsbike.blogspot.com/ http://janheine.wordpress.com/ http://www.spiralcage.com/rootless/ I check in on these often. On Monday, June 18, 2012 5:06:52 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Facebook and other social networking sites have led me away from blogs, which I used to read voraciously in ye olde days. I'm making a conscious effort to read more blogs. Current favorites are: http://whileoutriding.com/ http://www.pushingthepedals.com/ http://bikenoir.blogspot.com/ I prefer blogs about touring/bikepacking/adventure more than ones about equipment fetishism (of course, that's usually a neat sideline, whether the fetish is bikes, camping gear, or cameras). Good/unique writing, photos, and perspective are necessary. I can only handle a small number of artful photos of handlebar twine or Phil hubs or fixed-gear chainline, but I'll put up with it if there are enough words and photos from cool rides/tours. What are you folks reading? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/i0r2BQ-XHUkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: reaffirmation of a nice frame
I know exactly how you feel. My Riv just rides great and now everytime I get on my older race bike or even my mid-90's mountain bike I just feel all weird on them Although, my wife is currently riding an early 80's Nishiki International setup with mustache bars that she loves. On Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:41:56 AM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: I went on a lunch ride today with the fast guys at work. I've done this ride with them before on my rando'd out AHH, but this time I wanted to try out a bike I recently set up for my wife. It was unencumbered by fenders, racks, lights, and all the things I normally ride with. It also had 28mm tires at about 60-70 psi. The frame/fork is attractive, and lugged steel construction (made in China) and designed by a semi-local Washington company, so that much is consistent, but everything else was very different. The bike is unridable no-handed. It wanted to veer left every time I let go of the bars. The steering was twitchy - high speed and low. The ride was harsh and bone-rattling - all on pavement, no less. When I got home, I decided I never wanted to ride that one again. It makes you wonder all the work and time folks waste building and riding uncomfortable bikes. I rode a total of 36 miles today, and never got used to the handling. Talk about a great way to make you appreciate how great the frames are that Rivendell makes. I was mentally comparing the ride of my Hunqapillar and AHH with this thing all the way home. They are in another class altogether. Next time someone says that the components make all the difference, I'll just have to smirk. I think I may have to get rid of this bike and convince my wife she needs a Hillborne or a Betty. Brian Seattle, WA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D_buNUqPO7sJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant Peterson in Nashville
I am so going to this. On Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:25:56 AM UTC-5, cwr wrote: http://www.parnassusbooks.net/event/author-event-grant-peterson Author event with Grant Peterson Start: 06/24/2012 2:00 pm End: 06/24/2012 3:30 pm Grant Peterson will discuss and sign Just Ride: A Radically Practical Guide to Riding Your Bike In the same way that Michael Pollan’s slim bestseller Food Rules brought a gust of common sense to the everyday activity of eating, Just Ride is a revelation. Forget the ultralight, uncomfortable bikes, flashy jerseys, clunky shoes that clip onto tiny pedals, the grinding out of endless miles. Instead, ride like you did when you were a kid—just get on your bike and discover the pure joy of riding it. A reformed racer who’s commuted by bike every day since 1980, whose writings and opinions appear in major bicycling and outdoor magazines, and whose company, Rivendell Bicycle Works, makes bikes for riders ready to opt out of a culture overrun by racing, Grant Petersen shares a lifetime of unexpected facts, controversial opinions, expert techniques, and his own maverick philosophy. In 87 short, two-to-three page chapters, it covers: • Riding: Count Days, Not Miles; Corner Like Jackie Robinson; Steer with Your Hips, Shift with Your Legs • Suiting Up: The Shoes Ruse; Ponchos—the Ultimate Unracer’s Garment • Safety: #1 Rule—Be Seen; Helmets Aren’t All They’re Cracked Up to Be • Health and Fitness: Why Riding Is Lousy All-Around Exercise; Saddles Don’t Cause Impotence; Drink When You’re Thirsty—Not Before Also includes chapters on Accessories, Upkeep, and Technicalities as well as a final chapter titled “Velosophy” that includes the essential, memorable thought: Your Bike Is a Toy—Have Fun with It. Location: 3900 Hillsboro Pike Nashville, Tennessee 37215 United States -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RA7FX0wDIcUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant Peterson in Nashville
I had a great time at this event and really love the book; I am very happy I made the trip down to Nashville to check Grant's visit out. Parnassus Books is a really nice bookstore, if you are ever in the Nashville area you should check it out. On Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:25:56 AM UTC-5, cwr wrote: http://www.parnassusbooks.net/event/author-event-grant-peterson Author event with Grant Peterson Start: 06/24/2012 2:00 pm End: 06/24/2012 3:30 pm Grant Peterson will discuss and sign Just Ride: A Radically Practical Guide to Riding Your Bike In the same way that Michael Pollan’s slim bestseller Food Rules brought a gust of common sense to the everyday activity of eating, Just Ride is a revelation. Forget the ultralight, uncomfortable bikes, flashy jerseys, clunky shoes that clip onto tiny pedals, the grinding out of endless miles. Instead, ride like you did when you were a kid—just get on your bike and discover the pure joy of riding it. A reformed racer who’s commuted by bike every day since 1980, whose writings and opinions appear in major bicycling and outdoor magazines, and whose company, Rivendell Bicycle Works, makes bikes for riders ready to opt out of a culture overrun by racing, Grant Petersen shares a lifetime of unexpected facts, controversial opinions, expert techniques, and his own maverick philosophy. In 87 short, two-to-three page chapters, it covers: • Riding: Count Days, Not Miles; Corner Like Jackie Robinson; Steer with Your Hips, Shift with Your Legs • Suiting Up: The Shoes Ruse; Ponchos—the Ultimate Unracer’s Garment • Safety: #1 Rule—Be Seen; Helmets Aren’t All They’re Cracked Up to Be • Health and Fitness: Why Riding Is Lousy All-Around Exercise; Saddles Don’t Cause Impotence; Drink When You’re Thirsty—Not Before Also includes chapters on Accessories, Upkeep, and Technicalities as well as a final chapter titled “Velosophy” that includes the essential, memorable thought: Your Bike Is a Toy—Have Fun with It. Location: 3900 Hillsboro Pike Nashville, Tennessee 37215 United States -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TueKaiz6ne4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Grant's Nashville book signing.
http://letsgorideabike.com/blog/2012/06/an-afternoon-with-grant-petersen/ Here is a write-up of Grant's book signing that happened last Sunday in Nashville. Thought y'all would be interested. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dgn8cGqiZOQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Review of Just Ride.
Ah, performance, such a weird thing to call a bicycle, especially when any performance is directly attributed to the person and not the equipment. I know when I ride my bike I have a fun time and come away without needing to take the next couple of days off due to back, neck, wrist ache, that is about all the performance I can handle. On Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:07:23 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: Grant writes a book to promote something to counteract a prevailing mentality. The reviewer's review itself has one sentence that shows how pervasive that mentality is. The reviewer generally responds positively to Grant's book and offers the following as constructive criticism: mentioning a couple of Grant's points with which he disagrees, the reviewer writes, I also think the notion of a 31-pound “performance” road bike (that’s how much his personal bike weighs) is ridiculous. This tells me that the reviewer has not really gotten the point. I know the word performance is in quotes, so I'm not sure how he is defining performance. But the phrase road bike is not in quotes. The reviewer adheres to the idea that one's road ride can be only be high-performance when lightness and acceleration are the highest goals. Elsewhere in the article, the reviewer says that cycling should be much more. But he himself can't allow the thing called road riding to incorporate cycling's other joys. That's a bummer. -Jim W. -Original Message- From: Steven Frederick Sent: Jun 28, 2012 4:38 AM To: rbw-owners-bun. Subject: [RBW] Review of Just Ride. From none other than BIKE magazine, one of the best mtb mags. out there... http://www.bikemag.com/news/reviewed-just-ride/ Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BxYhAdRbavEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: The Poster
Wow, what a great poster. Just got mine in today and was pleasantly surprised. Now I am searching for a frame so I can hang it in the bike roomyes, I have a bike room. On Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:22:05 AM UTC-5, Zack wrote: I placed my pre-order last night. I have to say, I am really excited, I checked out DLG's website and his stuff is awesome. I can't wait to see what he has done for Riv. Anyone else pre-order? 20 bucks is pretty much free for a quality poster. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/IzYaBO51yFUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
I agree with you and it is an attitude that becomes very apparent when you show up to a group road ride on a steel framed/racked and bagged/fat tired bike. You think you are riding with us on that?? On Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:33:26 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote: Right. This illustrates my point. The reviewer of the article seems to visualize cycling as this great multi-faceted thing, but the subset of it called road-riding is not allowed to have a 31-pound bike. That's where I disagree. Doug's fully satisfying ride (described below) should be called a road ride. The reviewer doesn't say, for me, road-riding performance means lighter weight... He says, the notion of a 31-pound 'performance' road bike is ridiculous. Given his position as reviewer, that assertion is presumptuous, trying to tell me, the reader, what road bike performance really means. He even says that it is worthy of ridicule to attempt to define road-riding differently with an over-30-pound bike. I'm guessing that this presumption and the commonality of it is at least part of what lead to Just Ride. -Jim W. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bV0gMI1jNcIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
I bought the book at the Nashville book signing, sat for your talk, listened to the questions and answers and waited in line to get it signed and meet you. I have finished the book since then and have to say I very much enjoyed it; I enjoyed it enough to tell my wife that she needs to read it and that right there means something. That just doesn't always happen. I can't say I agree with everything, but I certainly agree with about 65% of what you wrote, probably more. I really wish I didn't have an allergy to wool. I am glad you wrote it and I am glad I had the opportunity to read it; the book made me happy, it was a fun read and had solid points throughout. So, thank you for that. - Ryan I am generally relieved that the book hasn't been panned more and worse. An old friend didn't like it on Amazon, and that hurt me deeply, but I'm trying to get over that, and that hurt has been more than all balmed-up by the generally positive response here and other places. I'm always described as polarizing or divisive, which is a funny thing to read. In print, even here, I tend to not dance around points I'm trying to make, and I don't qualify things with IMHO or whatever. But most of the book IS opinion, and I hope nobody thinks it's all-or-nothing. I DO believe it all, but I don't expect 100 percent compliance or agreement or anything. Some of my best friends ride clipless and dress in spandex and grind away long long miles, and they're no fools. I do fear for the ones who ride carbon forks, though---and maybe carbon has gotten better, but snapping is still common, and the nature of the failures has not changed. Anyway...I really hope I don't offend anybody with my opinions. I think there has been and is an unhelpful emphasis on racer-like riding as a goal for us all---the idea that we suffer and get stronger and leaner in payment for the the suffering, and that we have so much to learn from racers. I really do think all that is bs. But anywaythere's no Kool-Aid to drink here. Just stuff to consider, whatever, and reject whenever rejection seems the way to go. Over and out on that, but thank you all for however much you've liked the book. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YQf0_T4r1X8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Just ride?
Anything to improve performance! On Saturday, June 30, 2012 10:00:02 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Just ride? Naw! A new paradigm: Just spend! Looking thru a new Co Cycl flyer recently received I had to let out a belly laugh when I saw the prices for the new electric Super Record 11 kit on page 12 -- prices that beat satire into the ground. RD: $925 FD: $850. Not to mention: Cable set: $165, Power Unit $580, PU Interface $215. And a FD Stiffener for $110. Who needs satire? Patrick gonna get me a $400 helmet, too Moore -- Push back against the age as hard as it pushes against you. Flannery O'Connor - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/p6S--rcR_H0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My favorite bike invention!
I use a triple and have often thought of going to a double, but then I get on a 14% incline and don't feel like mashing up it so I shift to my granny gear and realize I will always be a triple kind of guy. I have to say my favorite inventions right now are the great 650b tires out there. Pari Motos, Hetres, Fatty Rumpkins, Maxy Fasty and these Hutchinson tires I am trying out now have all been fantastic. On Monday, July 2, 2012 11:43:13 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: OK, admittedly a bit, ok a lot, off topic... but Riv people have a nuanced relationship with technological biking advancements. So consider this a philosophical inquiry. (Perhaps even GP will be interested in this unscientific survey) Yesterday as I was out for a very pleasant couple of hours riding in the Green Mountains on my Ram, I had a certain insight into what has added the most to my cycling pleasure during the last 35 years. It was clear. The compact crank! When I took up cycling, as an adult, with full Campy equipment,typical gearing was a 52/42 mated to a 13-23. Even then being wimpy I used a 13-26 and discovered that despite Campy's claims my NR derailler would handle a 28. Still big hills, let alone mountain passes, were agonizing. Now with a 44/30 11/28, I can cruise up 8% grades in a near 1 to 1 ratio, and manage the occasional 10-14% ramp without distress even though I am 30 years older. Of course longer 10+% mountain climbs want lower gears. I believe that the compact crank has also driven both front and rear derailler development, yielding crisp shifting over just enough wider range to make a go-fast set up appropriate for tackling lots of hills. Of course, learning the speed and joy are independent variables has also helped a lot. But pain and joy are not. S what bicycle development has added the most to your enjoyment during your cycling career? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/NVbhpyaDiU4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
I have ridden enough CF bikes to know that I prefer steel bikes. With the size bike I need, I can get a steel bike to under 20 lbs pretty easily and that isn't even going completely weight weenie. Getting a bike down to 15 lbs won't make me like biking anymore than I already do, it won't make the ride any more enjoyable, and it won't suddenly make me want to be lance armstrong and use every ride as a race. That kind of weight difference just doesn't matter to me at all. What does matter is that the bike looks nice, will last for years, and I don't have to worry about dropping it. Is anybody making a carbon fiber touring bike yet? On Monday, July 2, 2012 2:59:15 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: I wonder if everyone had the choice of their favorite Riv frame *with the exact same dimensions*, *in both steel and CF* for about the same price which would you choose ? For myself, I simply do not have the option of riding a CF frame as the size and dimensions I prefer do not exist in CF . BUT if I had a choice of the same frame in either or I might have a hard time deciding ... lol . Imagine a 3 or 4 lb. frame/fork vs. a 8-10 that a Bombadil or Hunq. weigh .. it would certainly make me think about it . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dwoUsN1Qh50J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My favorite bike invention!
I just thought of another one...v-brakes. I love them, they work really well and I have to say I prefer them over cantis. Paul Components makes some really nice ones that are easy to setup and look nice, but I have a set of xt v-brakes on my Hillborne that work great. Only problem I have with them is the fork stops me from opening them up wide enough to fit a 38mm tire through without letting air out. On Monday, July 2, 2012 11:43:13 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: OK, admittedly a bit, ok a lot, off topic... but Riv people have a nuanced relationship with technological biking advancements. So consider this a philosophical inquiry. (Perhaps even GP will be interested in this unscientific survey) Yesterday as I was out for a very pleasant couple of hours riding in the Green Mountains on my Ram, I had a certain insight into what has added the most to my cycling pleasure during the last 35 years. It was clear. The compact crank! When I took up cycling, as an adult, with full Campy equipment,typical gearing was a 52/42 mated to a 13-23. Even then being wimpy I used a 13-26 and discovered that despite Campy's claims my NR derailler would handle a 28. Still big hills, let alone mountain passes, were agonizing. Now with a 44/30 11/28, I can cruise up 8% grades in a near 1 to 1 ratio, and manage the occasional 10-14% ramp without distress even though I am 30 years older. Of course longer 10+% mountain climbs want lower gears. I believe that the compact crank has also driven both front and rear derailler development, yielding crisp shifting over just enough wider range to make a go-fast set up appropriate for tackling lots of hills. Of course, learning the speed and joy are independent variables has also helped a lot. But pain and joy are not. S what bicycle development has added the most to your enjoyment during your cycling career? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/j7qLQNg3CbUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
This year I have been doing quite a bit of club riding, which seems to be just paceline riding. I have to say I don't prefer it and agree with Steve F that it is tense and tedious. It is also the reason why most clubs that I have tried to participate in lose beginning members or people who don't want to ride like they are preparing for a race. It is a shame that most of the club rides are geared towards pacelining. Paceline riding is a race technique and good for getting more speed out of a group of riders, but why it has to be what road biking is all about is beyond me. On Thursday, July 5, 2012 10:11:32 AM UTC-5, stevef wrote: On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:47 AM, blueride2 rlh3...@gmail.com wrote: Who can deny that riding in a pace-line at 20+ mph isn't a hoot? Not me, that's for sure. I certainly can-I find pacelining in turn tense and tedious. Not unlike driving now that I think of it. SteveF, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Wq8SV1GjCqEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Come On!
Price will probably end up higher than the $32 current asking price from Riv. I shake my head. On Thursday, July 5, 2012 12:53:40 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: Someone is selling the new poster on ebay if anyone just cannot wait to see it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Bicycle-Works-Poster-/12095817?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c28d9c979 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/135RoLoxd34J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Does this Betty Foy Look Different to you?
I did too, much prefer a straight line.. Would this be a new future style of betty and yves or just a one off? On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 9:10:53 AM UTC-5, Peter Pesce wrote: Hmm. I think you're right. I always disliked the bent line also. -Pete in CT On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 1:14:43 AM UTC-4, Rocky B wrote: Take a look at the frame lines of this Betty Foy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10344790@N06/7514719444/in/pool-rivendell Is it me or does it looks like the top tube and the mid-seat stays line up? ...because I've always wished they were built like that. Rocky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/o3RAf2eDF6gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What Now? and other books.
I got to tell you, I thought The Rider by Tim Krabbe was excellent. It has to do with a bike race in Europe, but the book is exceptionally well written. Since buying it a couple of years ago, I have read it three times. On Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:01:56 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote: I saw that RBW is now selling What Now? I imagine it's gotta be pretty go for them to go to the trouble of carrying it. Anyone here read it or intent to read it? I've only ever read one book by Anne Patchett--State of Wonder. It was okay. I need to read Bel Canto as I've had a lot of people recommend it. Since this tends to be a time of year where people get away for bike camping and vacation, I'm wondering what people are reading or planning to read this summer? I just started Buried in the Sky and really like it. In fact, I need to pull myself away from the computer and spend some time reading it. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_TXBzQJGHkIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
I have a friend who had a carbon frame break (madone right at the bottom bracket, bike was unrideable, he was bummed), have witnessed a carbon fork break at speed (dude went away in an ambulance; frame and fork was toast. A stick in the road came up and took out both fork arms. The accident happened really fast and the rider had no time to stop the bike) and I have had a steel fork bend when I was trying to hop over a curb but didn't get it up enough. I bent the fork back with my hands, rode the bike home that day and replaced the fork; Jamis Aurora. I have also had dented steel tubes, broken tubes, bent chainstays and broken crankarms. The only thing that put me on the ground from breaking was the crankarm, and that crash hurt and I had to get someone to pick me up. The other stuff happened over time while riding, hitting trees while singletracking, crashing the bike and realizing the bike broke ect... I can't remember a time where the bike did not get me home after that damage though. On Friday, July 13, 2012 2:33:15 PM UTC-5, Skenry wrote: Nope, I don't personally know too many people on this list. I have only met a few so personally so I have to judge the group based upon what people here post. I'll say that without a doubt, there are many bicycling fans here but ,OVERALL, the group is very focused only on one type of bike. Its just weird to me that here and on the iBob list there are many people who only consider bicycles that fit into the Riv stereotype. Now on the old serrota list (now The Paceline Forum) and even on velocipede salon they tend to appriciate all bikes. Those two groups most definately cater towards the faster crowd but they also apreciate and enjoy the Riv type of slow, heavy, comfort bicycles. As for what started my intial post, who here has had a carbon frame/fork break, fail or bend? OK, now who here has had a steel frame/fork break, bend or fail? As for me, I will keep riding all types of bicycles not just those of one small type. Scott Henry Dayton, OH come see me On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I like bikes. It just seems around here that you can either drink the koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both. Scott Its like you know us...oh wait, you don't. So stop being so condescending. On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: Well, If thats how you are measuring things, i've had two steel froks bend. One aluminum fork come unglued. I've never had a carbon fork bend, break, snap or do anything other that work 100% perfectly. I've had plenty of all three type going back to my first EMS fork in the early 90s. Guess how stupid that is. I like bikes. It just seems around here that you can either drink the koolaid or enjoy bikes, very few of you can seemingly do both. Scott On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.comwrote: I make no apologies for my divisiveness about CF forks. Any product supporting the front wheel of a bicycle which snaps instead of bending is stupid. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vDkulQZlZrwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Review of Just Ride.
Well, since you asked... I spent last night replacing my 7cm Nitto Tech stem for a 9cm Nitto lugged stem, first ride with the new setup is this morning. Yay! On Saturday, July 14, 2012 12:28:04 AM UTC-5, bicyc...@gmail.com wrote: *What have all the posters in this thread been doing? I'd much rather hear about that.* Ride on, erik -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HeydA_7mjVsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Impact of beer on steering
A 6 pack of beer fits in the Sackville Barsack perfectly. I wouldn't ride no-handed with it, but I got home fine and didn't even much notice the extra weight. On Saturday, July 14, 2012 1:41:52 PM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: I occassionally use a klickfix shopping basket on the handlebars of my Hillborne. Just in case there was any doubt, carrying a case of beer in there has a dramatic impact on steering. Must be something to do with trail. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SH4RslvQboAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
