Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Jag

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Levente Farkas wrote:

 it'd be useful to create a new mailing list for rahide

THere is one.  And not only that, you sent that mailing list requesting
its existance.   From
ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/README:

http://developer.redhat.com will host a web site devoted to Raw Hide,
and 
the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list will be the centerpiece of 
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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Levente Farkas

Jag wrote:
 
 On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Levente Farkas wrote:
 
  it'd be useful to create a new mailing list for rahide
 
 THere is one.  And not only that, you sent that mailing list requesting
 its existance.   From
 ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/README:
 
 http://developer.redhat.com will host a web site devoted to Raw Hide,
 and
 the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list will be the centerpiece of
 discussion.

IMHO it'd not be useful (even if the readme said that) in this case 
redhat-devel-list would be full of rawhide's problem. and even rh
doesn't agree with it (see below).

Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
 
 John Ellson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Levente Farkas wrote:
 
  hi,
  first of all IMHO it's a good think that rawhide is updated regualry (almost
  every day), on the other hand it'd be useful to be always consistent.
  it'd be useful to create a new mailing list for rahide. yes I know I can
  put bugreport into bugbase, but for a daily changing distibution it's
   too expensive and it's not easy to track.
 
  Question to the primary RawHide maintainers:  Is this true?  I would
  like to know how we can help you best.  Would you like us to
  submit RawHide bugs via BugZilla, or via this list (or one like it)?
 
 Bugzilla.

I vote agaist bugzilla in this case. I put bugreports about rh distro
into bugzilla, but rawhide is changing so rapidly, that I (and I assume
many other people) would not like to use bugzilla. there are dozens of
dependency bugs and other spec file specific bugs in rahide. it's much
easier to cut-n-paste the result of an rpm and send it vie email than 
go to the web fill the form ... yes I'm lazy, but most case it can help
a lot if I send an email (at least more than if I neither send a mail
nor create a bugreport).
yes if you want I can choose the easier way: don't report anything:-)

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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Levente Farkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jag wrote:
  
  On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Levente Farkas wrote:
  
   it'd be useful to create a new mailing list for rahide
  
  THere is one.  And not only that, you sent that mailing list requesting
  its existance.   From
  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/README:
  
  http://developer.redhat.com will host a web site devoted to Raw Hide,
  and
  the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list will be the centerpiece of
  discussion.
 
 IMHO it'd not be useful (even if the readme said that) in this case 
 redhat-devel-list would be full of rawhide's problem. and even rh
 doesn't agree with it (see below).

Discussion is different from bug reports.

 I vote agaist bugzilla in this case. I put bugreports about rh distro
 into bugzilla, but rawhide is changing so rapidly, that I (and I assume
 many other people) would not like to use bugzilla. there are dozens of
 dependency bugs and other spec file specific bugs in rahide. it's much
 easier to cut-n-paste the result of an rpm and send it vie email than 
 go to the web fill the form ... yes I'm lazy, but most case it can help
 a lot if I send an email (at least more than if I neither send a mail
 nor create a bugreport).
 yes if you want I can choose the easier way: don't report
 anything:-)

Feel free to mail here. It will likely be forgotten. 


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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Jag

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Levente Farkas wrote:

  THere is one.  And not only that, you sent that mailing list requesting
  its existance.   From
  ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/rawhide/README:
  
  http://developer.redhat.com will host a web site devoted to Raw Hide,
  and
  the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list will be the centerpiece of
  discussion.
 
 IMHO it'd not be useful (even if the readme said that) in this case 

If?  I cutpasted from the README into the email (that's why the
formatting is weird).



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Re: Mondo (GPL bare metal recovery cloning tool)

2002-02-21 Thread John Summerfield


  You might post the original to enigma-list if you haven't and send a
  copy to Bero too for good measure. He may well put it on the rescue CD
  (if it fits).
 
 Enigma? ie 7.2 isn't that bit too late, looks like you didn't
 get it quite right yet.

Bigger audience.


 
 The online tools such as Mondo (Ignite-UX on HP-UX and the
 HP _Online_ Diagnostiscs I was drooling after) etc are
 definitely not only rescue-CD issues but instead online preparation
 tools for disaster(s) and *should be available all the time*.

I appreciate that. However, Bero might cut a new rescue CD and put it 
on before 8.0 is out.

Only if he knows about it though.


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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread John Summerfield

 hi,
 first of all IMHO it's a good think that rawhide is updated regualry (almost
 every day), on the other hand it'd be useful to be always consistent.
 it'd be useful to create a new mailing list for rahide. yes I know I can
 put bugreport into bugbase, but for a daily changing distibution it's
 too expensive and it's not easy to track. but it'd not be useful to
 foold devel-list with rawhide's problems.
 like today:





When Rawhide was announced this was the designated list. One thing that 
bothers me about this list now is there are so many other lists 
(kickstart, tpm, anacaconda for example) that there are hardly enough 
development issues to sustain redhat-devel at a worthwhile volume.




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Re: [rh-dev] Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread R P Herrold

On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, John Summerfield wrote:

 When Rawhide was announced this was the designated list. One thing that 
 bothers me about this list now is there are so many other lists 
 (kickstart, tpm, anacaconda for example) that there are hardly enough 
 development issues to sustain redhat-devel at a worthwhile volume.

hmmm -- John, I think you overstate the case:

[herrold@dell4 SRPMS]$ ls | wc
842 842   20883
[herrold@dell4 SRPMS]$ pwd
/var/ftp/pub/mirror/redhat/rawhide/SRPMS

Plenty of other packages to wring bugs out of ...

smile -- Russ Herrold



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Re: Mondo (GPL bare metal recovery cloning tool)

2002-02-21 Thread Kevin McConnell


--- Riku Meskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Those of you who haven't had opportunity to
 experience HP-UX
 features of host cloning, 

I guess you've never heard of VMware which
supports host cloning under linux in a few seconds.


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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Kevin McConnell


--- John Ellson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 For example, it surprises me that some rpm
 dependency errors seem
 to not get fixed quickly.  Would you like us to
 report them?

I think they would rather have us fix them than report
them.


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Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread Kevin McConnell


--- Jeremy Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 At the same time, it's extremely easy for me to lose
 an email about
 something in the pile of emails I get every day. 

Bugzilla is much better for documenting issues because
every step of the process is put into writing and then
filed into the DB. Later on down the road, when you
see the same type of issues occurring, you can modify
bugzilla so that it will be able to help you
identify the same types of errors and give instant
solutions to the problem. There are many more ways to
extend the functionality of bugzilla to accomodate,
than there are to use this mailing list to help. This
list would best be left for discussion, and discussion
only.



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Re: [rh-dev] Re: rawhide list

2002-02-21 Thread John Summerfield


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 
 When Rawhide was announced this was the designated list. One thing
 that 
 bothers me about this list now is there are so many other lists 
 (kickstart, tpm, anacaconda for example) that there are hardly enough 
 development issues to sustain redhat-devel at a worthwhile volume.

 hmmm -- John, I think you overstate the case:


I don't. I think there's so little interesting content left I'll 
probably not resubscribe when I change email address.
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Re: Mondo (GPL bare metal recovery cloning tool)

2002-02-21 Thread Riku Meskanen

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Kevin McConnell wrote:

 --- Riku Meskanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Those of you who haven't had opportunity to
  experience HP-UX
  features of host cloning,

 I guess you've never heard of VMware which
 supports host cloning under linux in a few seconds.

Nope, you guessed wrong, I haven't been living
in complete darkness either :)

I've had VMware since Jun 21 1999 and gone trough all
releases up to 3.0.0 currently with my laptop.

I'm quite familiar that vmware has also server products, not
just workstation version, I've followed multiple projects like
from virtuozzo http://www.sw-soft.com/, virtual private servers
http://www.solucorp.qc.ca/miscprj/s_context.hc etc or anything
you can think that mainstream Linux sites or slashdot, etc.
has published.

I happened to jump Linux bandwagon -92 (since first working support of
SCSI (AHA1542) appeared around .096-0.97) and been around with many *nix,
mini, pc technologies than vast majority even haven't heard of. Built
first LAN on -84 an so on ;)

Virtual servers, blade servers etc. will have their uses, but until
they will make their way in great numbers to production servers I
would not hold my breath that they solve all your backup problems.

One of the important tricks the server virtualization does not
help a single bit is the capability of Mondo and Ignite to rearrange
or switch partition sizes, switch over to LVM, convert to sofware RAID,
or change to a diferent filesystem.

Remember that the bare metal backupsystems (Ignite, Mondo) do not just
copy back filesystem or partition, they are rebuild and configure
filesystems and most important configuration files too. Mondo has also
support for taking binary copy of a unsupported filesystem or possibly
even raw partition (didn't test it, but hey why shouldn't it work if it
uses same tricks with NTFS).

Let me tell you a true story. If you have several servers thousands of
kilometers away, accross the country, and either you have someone even
pc-user at the site you can instruct him/her to insert with bootable
recovery media and ask rebooting that darn server. Just make you give
proper details of the rack and bay and read identification label not
to accidentally reboot wrong host, oh well... seen that too :/

You can come back even if you don't have complete lights-out management
with service processors etc. I've done that couple of times once I worked
for one of the worlds largest telecoms systems vendors (Lucent) and the
Ignite was our saviour few times you had two options fly or drive as hell
driven 1200km, to recover the system or just pick up the phone and ask
basically any installer, datacom or datanetwork technician to give you a
hand with few simple operations any reasonble human being can accomplish
without special training.

It's worth keeping the recovery simple, you and your boss both
sleep much better.

HTH,

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Re: Connecting to Novell 2

2002-02-21 Thread Lewi

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:21:04AM -0500, Lewi wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:29:15AM +1100, Hossein S. Zadeh wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 07:54, Carl D. Blake wrote:
   I'm stumped too.  I'm running a RH 7.1 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18-3.i386,
   ncpfs-2.2.0.18-3.i386 and a RH 7.2 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18.6.i386, and
   ncpfs-2.2.0.18-6.i386.  Both systems connect to Netware 4.11 SP7 with no
   problems.  I can't understand why you would be having a problem
   
   On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 13:48, James Pifer wrote:
Yes, I've tried bindery as well, but I get a different error when doing
that. 

The Netware server I'm trying to hit is 5.1 SP2a. 

  
  
  Well, doesn't 4.2 uses IPX by default (and TCP/IP as an option), and 5.1
  does TCP/IP by default (and IPX as an option)?
  
  Hossein
 my campus using novell ver. 4.11, about a month ago from my redhat box and 
potato(debian) successfully mount novell(using -b as parameter), but after that 
suddenly two linux box can't connected to, I know it's silly, until now I don't know 
why?
 because both setting doesn't change.
 but when I reboot my linux box, it can mount again. what cause it?

when I make little experiments, when my redhat box set for the first time(when 
rebooting)
i set the ipx_configure, i can connect again to novell. but when with that conditions 
if i reboot setting for my network(service network restart) then connection to novell 
fail, it's still fail if i try ipx_configure off and ipx_configure on again.
does someone know anything about this, how it can be happen?
  
  
  
  
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Re: Can someone teach me how to set the IP-Table on RedHat 7.2 ?

2002-02-21 Thread Lewi

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:40:45AM +0800, Kevin Chan wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Can someone teach me how to set the IP-Table on RedHat 7.2  ?
 
 I would like to set the PPP Client IP-10.0.0.1 can browse interent through
 PPP Server IP-192.168.13.222.  The simple diagram as below :
 
  Internet(0.0.0.0)
|
  PPP Server-Internal Interface(192.168.13.222)
|
  PPP Client (10.0.0.1)
 
 I was wrote the scripts on below files, but seem like don't work (p.s. these
 scripts is working on RH 7.0):
 
  etc/ppp/ip-up.local
 ---
 #!/bin/bash
 ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.01 -d 0/0 -j MASQ
 exit 0
 
  etc/ppp/ip-down.local
 ---
 #!/bin/bash
 ipchains -D forward -s 10.0.0.1 -d 0/0 -j MASQ
 exit 0
 
 Please teach me how  where I can set the IP-Table to solve my
 problem thanks !
 
 Best regards,
 Kevin Chan
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o pppx -j MASQUERADE
echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr (if you get different ip when dialup)

i use this at home

btw i get from 
rc.firewall - Initial SIMPLE IP Firewall test script for 2.4.x
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Re: [OT] Subnets and Classes

2002-02-21 Thread Gary Stainburn

On Thursday 21 February 2002 12:23 am, Edward Dekkers wrote:
  Any documentation that states this is a class B network is wrong. It is a
  class C.
 
  Here is the breakdown...
  Class Netmask   Network Addresses
A   255.0.0.0 0.0.0.0- 127.255.255.255
B   255.255.0.0   128.0.0.0  - 191.255.255.255
C   255.255.255.0 192.0.0.0  - 223.255.255.255
 
  These are the defaults.

 This explains a lot. After reading this, I stepped back to my original
 reference below which I saved years ago from the internet:

 ---

 Section 3: Private Address Space

 The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA) has reserved the
 following three blocks of the IP address space for private networks:

   10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255
   172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255
   192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255

 We will refer to the first block as 24-bit block, the second as 20-bit
 block, and the third as 16-bit block.  Note that the first block is
 nothing but a single class A network number, while the second block is a
 set of 16 continuous class B network numbers, and the third block is a set
 of 255
 continuous class C network numbers.
 ---

 I actually misread it. When it specifies here 192.168.0.0 -
 192.168.255.255, AND that it is a 16 bit block, I thought it was a class B
 as I seemed to have 255 * 255 combinations of addresses. But it
 specifically says on the last sentence it is actually by default a Class C.
 A bit confusing as I though a 16 bit block meant B Class.

 My only excuse is I tried to read and understand it while I was still a
 newbie years ago, and it 'stuck' in my head.

 HOWEVER. Do Linux Servers/Win Clients actually KNOW this, or should the
 netmask of 255.255.0.0 override this as the other kind repondents have
 said? OR is the only way around it to add the route line to the Linux
 server (yes, the Linux server acts as gateway to the Win clients)?

The Class system is purely a convention, and is honoured by some 
config/installation software.  E.g. when installing IP on a RH system it will 
give you the default netmask based on the IP address.

However, the IP stack has absolutely no idea of this convention and works 
purely on the IP ADDR/NETMASK settings, as I decribed in my previous post.

As I said, we use the 10. Class 'A' private rage as a number of Class 'B' 
ranges to help with routing and reduce the WAN broadcast traffic.  

One question I did think of after sending my last post is, are they on the 
same wire or is there some form of router between them. Both being on the 
same hub would constitute being on the same wire, but if there's a switch in 
between, then it depends on the switch as to what happens, but it *should* 
still work.  If there's a router involved too then this will almost certainly 
be your problem.


 I guess next time I'll just try it both ways.

 Thanks to all repondents for your time.

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Re: Redhat Kernel

2002-02-21 Thread AABAN34

 Goto this website... 

 http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-kernel.html


about smbclient

2002-02-21 Thread Lewi

how smbclient connect to winbox with just use ip address not NetBIOS name
i look at konqueror can connect with samba just using ip address
smb://123.123.123.123
how can i do it with smbclient?

i have try with -R to my /etc/hosts in server to change resolve order, but it's still 
can't

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Re: USB Joystick and USB Hub

2002-02-21 Thread James Pifer

Can you give me a little more information on just how to do this? 

How can I see if the hub is recognized?
How do I tell if HID and joystick support is enabled?

Thanks,
James

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 21:47, Statux wrote:
 Hubs are supported natively.. they are seen when the host controller is 
 initialized.
 
 As far as the joystick, you'll need to make sure you have HID support 
 enabled as well as support for the joystick itself.
 
 -Statux
 
 On 20 Feb 2002, James Pifer wrote:
 
  Is it true I have to recompile the kernel to use my USB joystick and USB
  hub?
  
  My install is fairly new, RH72(full install). I have stuff listed in
  /dev/input like js0, js1, etc. 
  
  If I do cat /dev/input/js0 I get No such device.
  
  Didn't find much in the archives about joysticks. What I did find
  searching google was a lot about rebuilding the kernel. 
  
  How can I tell if RH sees my USB hub and joystick?
  
  Thanks,
  James
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Startup Application

2002-02-21 Thread Ben Logan

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 06:08:56PM -0800, David Talkington wrote:
 Ben Logan wrote:
 
 That's what I do.  I use sudo for the few things that I want everyone
 else (in my family) to be able to use but that require root access.
 For example, burning CDs 
 
 Even that's not necessary, if you're willing to make cdrecord suid-0.  

True, but I think sudo is generally considered safer.  It was also
easier to just make the cd-burning tools available through sudo than
to follow X-CDRoast's instructions in making everything suid. 
(IOW, I'm lazy. :)

I wrote a shell script wrapper that makes it easier to get the
pictures off our camera using gphoto2 (I really prefer the CLI to a
GUI).  Since you can't set a shell script suid-0, sudo lets me allow
other trusted users to get the pictures without everyone having to
know the root password.

Regards,
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Re: [OT] Subnets and Classes

2002-02-21 Thread Jason Costomiris

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:43:24AM +, Gary Stainburn wrote:
:10.0.0.0-   10.255.255.255
:172.16.0.0  -   172.31.255.255
:192.168.0.0 -   192.168.255.255
: 
:  We will refer to the first block as 24-bit block, the second as 20-bit
:  block, and the third as 16-bit block.  Note that the first block is
:  nothing but a single class A network number, while the second block is a
:  set of 16 continuous class B network numbers, and the third block is a set
:  of 255
:  continuous class C network numbers.

Wow, that reference guide is written to confuse people.

Nobody I know in the industry would refer to 10/8 as anything other than
an 8-bit subnet, or 172.16/12 as a 12-bit subnet, or 192.168/16 as a
16-bit subnet

In the real world of networking, if you asked for a 24-bit block, you would
be given a /24, that is, a subnet consisting of 256 addresses.

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Schedule emails in sendmail

2002-02-21 Thread Nat B.

Hi,

is there a way to schedule a time to send a message to a mailing list?
Is there a parameter that should be inserted in the mail header, and treated 
by sendmail or majordomo in order to delay the message to a certain time or 
date?

I need the client to set the time for delivery, and send the message to the 
server which will send the message on chosen date to a mailing list.
Hope someone can put me on the right track.

Thank you

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RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Gene Sais

Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:

I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Red 
Hat CD and press OK to retry.

Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather than 
using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Brig C. McCoy

Could it be related to the Cable Select problem: 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/archive/22649.html?

...brig

At 09:05 AM 2/21/02 -0500, Gene Sais wrote:
 Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh
 7.2 iso file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I
 get the following error:
 
 I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert
 the Red Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 
 Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded)
 rather than using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
 
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Re: Schedule emails in sendmail

2002-02-21 Thread Anthony E. Greene

At 12:50 2/21/2002 +, Nat B. wrote:
is there a way to schedule a time to send a message to a mailing list?
Is there a parameter that should be inserted in the mail header, and 
treated by sendmail or majordomo in order to delay the message to a 
certain time or date?

I need the client to set the time for delivery, and send the message to 
the server which will send the message on chosen date to a mailing list.
Hope someone can put me on the right track.

That feature is not supported by SMTP, which means that no standard mail 
server can do it. The simplest solution is to use something like 'at' to 
send the message at the desired time. I looked at winfiles.com and found 
SMTPSend:

   
http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-3356720-100-5181220.html?tag=st.dl.10001-103-2.lst-7-3.5181220

It's a shareware Windows utility that can send email on command. If the 
Windows system you're using has a system scheduler, you can set it to use 
SMTPSend to send the message at the desired time.


Alternatively, you could have a procmail recipe feed the message to a Perl 
script:

:0
* ^X-SendTime:
* ^From:.*specialuser@domain
* ^To:.*mailinglist@domain
| /usr/local/bin/perlscript.pl

The Perl script would have to parse out the X-SendTime header, put the rest 
of the message into a file, then use the 'at' command to schedule the 
message release.

#!/usr/bin/perl
#
# Take an RFC822 email message on STDIN and
# schedule it for later transmission.
#
# Copyright (c) Anthony E. Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# License: GNU GPL v2 http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt

# Generate the temp file name using the script name and process ID.
$scriptname = `basename $0`;
chomp($scriptname);
$tempfile = /tmp/$scriptname.$$;

# Open the temp file for output (or die trying).
open(TEMP,$tempfile) || die Cannot open tempfile $tempfile;

# Read input
while ($line = STDIN) {
   # Only look at the header. First blank line is end of header.
   while (length($line)  1) {
 if ($line =~ /^X-SendTime: /) {
   $sendtime = substr($line,12);
   chomp($sendtime);
   # Substitute a bogus line to obscure the X-Sendtime header.
   $line = X-ScheduledMessage: TRUE\n;
 }
 print TEMP $line;
   }
   print TEMP $line;
}
close(TEMP);

# Schedule the job.
system(echo '/usr/bin/sendmail -oi -t  $tempfile' | at '$sendtime');

exit;



This solution allows anyone who knows the proper address and header fields 
to send the message.

I wrote this just now and have not tested it. If you decide to use it, I'd 
be interested in any changes you needed to make to get it to work.


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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED]

hi,
I think your cd is fine.
It sounds like the install cd kernel does not see your cdrom.
I think you can press alt-f2 to get to a kind of a shell prompt.
From there you might be able to see what it picked up.
You can also try to create an install floppy and try booting with that.
May be, it then picks up the cd.  I once had that working for a simelar 
problem
on an older rh version.
regards, Willem

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Gene Sais wrote:

 Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:
 
 I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Red 
Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 
 Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather than 
using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
 
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mkisofs

2002-02-21 Thread Ezra Nugroho

I just read the man page for mkisofs, but I am not very clear about 
something yet.
I don't have a burner on my linux box, so I want to make an iso image to be 
burned somewhere else.
If I want to make an iso image of a directory should I type:

mkisofs -r -o filename.iso directory

What is the benefit of using  -r instead of -J  (joliet fs)?

Any responses would be appreciated.
Thanks,


Ezra Nugroho
Web/Database Application Specialist
Goshen College ITS
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Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread Ismael Touama

Hi,

Quite new to linux, i'd like to know how can I transfert data written on my
floppy
under linux throught win.
I don't yet understand system file very good...and i've got a network
printer.
My server is not still on it...I need to rpint things such as 'vi command
line', files...

I've heard about
unix2dos
dos2linux

But find nowhere as simple user...

Thanks for your help
ism



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Re: Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread Gene Sais

you can always use samba or just ftp the files.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 10:12AM 
Hi,

Quite new to linux, i'd like to know how can I transfert data written on my
floppy
under linux throught win.
I don't yet understand system file very good...and i've got a network
printer.
My server is not still on it...I need to rpint things such as 'vi command
line', files...

I've heard about
unix2dos
dos2linux

But find nowhere as simple user...

Thanks for your help
ism



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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Gene Sais

i think it finds the cdrom, just can't find the files needed for install (i.e. iso 
file).  i just tried a rh 7.1 cd and it worked.  this cd is not a single iso file but 
rh distribution (all the files expanded).  maybe it doesn't work w/ iso files? 

gene

 Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 
09:26AM 
hi,
I think your cd is fine.
It sounds like the install cd kernel does not see your cdrom.
I think you can press alt-f2 to get to a kind of a shell prompt.
From there you might be able to see what it picked up.
You can also try to create an install floppy and try booting with that.
May be, it then picks up the cd.  I once had that working for a simelar 
problem
on an older rh version.
regards, Willem

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Gene Sais wrote:

 Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:
 
 I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Red 
Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 
 Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather than 
using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
 
 Gene
 
 
 
 
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Re: openssh redhat 6.2

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Steve Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 would the later distributions src rpm compile
 under RedHat 6.2 ?

I think there are some defines in the spec file - it's unsupported, in
any case. I'm sure there are some rpms around somewhere, though.

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Re: sendmail woes

2002-02-21 Thread Fred Dech

On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 09:25:46PM -0500, Anthony E. Greene wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Fred Dech wrote:
 my ability to receive email decided to break again.
 [snip]
- Transcript of session follows -
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]... Deferred: Connection refused by olive.bsd.uchi
 cago.edu.
 
 It looks like sendmail is not listening on your external IP address. This
 is the default config for RH72. You need to edit sendmail.mc and rebuild
 sendmail.cf. The exact steps are in the archive for this list.
 
 Tony
 
hi Tony.

thanks alot.  i found that thread, i just missed that one by a few days:
i
Jim Bija [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fri Feb 1 09:58:58 2002

Jim said:
O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA
sendmail only listen on that ip. To allow other to send you email change that
ip to your ip
--

JC!@!.  i'm looking into my /etc/mail/sendmail.mc, which i was busy
reconstructing yesterday (i finally blew away sendmail altogether and
re-installed and then upgraded via up2date) and i see:

*
dnl This changes sendmail to only listen on the loopback device 127.0.0.1
dnl and not on any other network devices. Comment this out if you want
dnl to accept email over the network.
DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA')
*

it appears that 7.1 (at least with sendmail-8.11.6-2.7.1) defaults to NO
RECEIVE, as well.

ouch!  hell!  they were just comments.  why bother reading them? :-o.  i
was too busy hunting for the problem as it stared right at me.

i am kicking myself as i type ouch!  ouch!.

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RE: rcp, nfs or ftp?

2002-02-21 Thread Williams, Jeff

Essentially, I'm trying to figure out which way would be best as a
standard...  I do have some older production machines that I'm not sure will
run a current version of ssh...  (Not sure on that one, I'll have to check)
Often I'll have to bring up nodes that are some what identical to other
nodes and one of the processes is to backup certain files using an automated
process to push the files to a backup server.  (This is where my question
comes into play)  I want something that can be easy to bring up a node
without too much human error and doesn't bring down the server...  

One thing I did find out and maybe someone can give me some insight to this
one.   Once when trying rcp and having lots of nodes go to one server to
push their files, after a few minutes inetd reported that too many
connections where encountered and it shutdown for about 5 minutes due to a
denial of service attack.  This is an issue that I want to make sure I don't
run into.  I think that I might have ran into this one with ftp also...
Does scp have this limitation since it's not under inetd?

With nfs I constantly see errors in the messages file about nfs server not
responding and then immediately it says it found the nfs server.  To me this
sounds like broadcast traffic...  

Right now, we have many scripts that utilize all four methods if you include
scp.  I'm just trying to get things more in sync and try to use one method
that would be best.

Thanks for all the input!

Jeff Williams



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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 6:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: rcp, nfs or ftp?


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Williams, Jeff wrote:

I'm trying to figure out from a bandwidth, system utilization and security
standpoint which transfer protocol is better...  (ie. pros and cons) 

Is there a significant difference between the three?  I'm automating
certain
things and trying to figure out which is better in transfering files?

There are more important considerations than speed.  If you're
transferring files between two machines with an internet connection,
they all stink.  Paint us a picture of your needs, topology, and
expectations?

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Re: USB Joystick and USB Hub

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

James Pifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is it true I have to recompile the kernel to use my USB joystick and USB
 hub?

Hubs: No. And my USB joystick (Logitech Wingman Digital Extreme) works right
out of the box, too. 

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:
 
 I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Red 
Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 
 Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather than 
using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!

Official CDs or ones you burnt yourself? If the latter, reburning
might be a good idea.


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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Gene Sais

Interesting note, official CD works (purchased), not an ISO image file.  The 
downloaded ISO file burned to CDROM does not work.  It boots but can not find a Red 
Hat CDROM.  Does the burnt CDROM require the boot.img or is the ISO file good enough 
to boot from?

Gene

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 10:53AM 
Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:
 
 I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the Red 
Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 
 Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather than 
using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!

Official CDs or ones you burnt yourself? If the latter, reburning
might be a good idea.


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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Interesting note, official CD works (purchased), not an ISO image
 file.  The downloaded ISO file burned to CDROM does not work.  It
 boots but can not find a Red Hat CDROM.  Does the burnt CDROM require
 the boot.img or is the ISO file good enough to boot from?

The isos aren't different. Burner issue, if the iso verifies.

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Re[2]: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Brian Ashe

Hello Gene,

Thursday, February 21, 2002, 11:01:59 AM, you textually orated:

GS Interesting note, official CD works (purchased), not an ISO image file.
GS The downloaded ISO file burned to CDROM does not work. It boots but can
GS not find a Red Hat CDROM. Does the burnt CDROM require the boot.img or
GS is the ISO file good enough to boot from?

Are you saying that when you look at this CD on an already running system
that you see only one file on it? (foo.x.x.iso)

If that is the case, then you mistook how to create a CD from an ISO.


Have fun,
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Re: Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread Jerry Winegarden

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Gene Sais wrote:

 you can always use samba or just ftp the files.
 

There are several ways to accomplish the task of transferring data from 
Linux to MS Windoze.  Some are quicker to implement, but may involve more 
effort in the long term, while others are more effort to setup, but 
involve much less work to use.  It depends on how frequently you will need 
to transfer this data as to whether it's worth the extra effort.

Samba is a package that lets you share files/folders from your Linux 
computer to your MS/Windoze computers through Network Neighborhood (now 
My Network Places).  Long term, this might be easier, since you wouldn't 
have to first transfer the data to the Windows machines to use it; the 
data file would appear to be in a folder on a hard drive on the Windows 
machine.  Printers can be shared, too.  The Linux box can also get access 
to files on the MS Windows machines through network neighborhood with the 
smb client.  Long term, this might be worth the effort to learn to do.
Configuring smb is not too difficult in many situations, but can get quite 
complicated.  If you have a few PC's and a Linux box on the same LAN and 
you don't care about user accounts and file access controls, it is very 
simple.  (Look at the example of a guest account in the 
/etc/samba/smb.conf file.)  If you want separate user names and passwords, 
then it can get slightly more complicated to set up.

File transfers over the network can take place by running ftp service 
(wu_ftpd package) on the Linux box, running an ftp client (e.g. WS_FTP or
c:\windows\ftp.exe) to get the file from the Linux box.  Another 
alternative (more secure) is to use ssh/scp to copy files on the network.  
This means running sshd (openssh) on Linux and getting an ssh client 
program (e.g. putty) for your Doze box.  There is a slight amount of 
configuration to do after installing wu_ftpd or openssh to enable your 
PC's to get the files in addition to getting a Doze client program.

However, you asked (below) about the quickest way to do the file 
transfers: via floppy.  You need to have a package installed on Linux 
called mtools.

Then, you can use the mcopy command to write the data file to/from MS-DOS 
formatted floppy.


  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 10:12AM 
 Hi,
 
 Quite new to linux, i'd like to know how can I transfert data written on my
 floppy
 under linux throught win.
 I don't yet understand system file very good...and i've got a network
 printer.
 My server is not still on it...I need to rpint things such as 'vi command
 line', files...
 
 I've heard about
 unix2dos
 dos2linux
 
 But find nowhere as simple user...
 
 Thanks for your help
 ism
 
 
 
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Re: mkisofs

2002-02-21 Thread Duane Clark

Ezra Nugroho wrote:
 I just read the man page for mkisofs, but I am not very clear about 
 something yet.
 I don't have a burner on my linux box, so I want to make an iso image to be 
 burned somewhere else.
 If I want to make an iso image of a directory should I type:
 
 mkisofs -r -o filename.iso directory
 
 What is the benefit of using  -r instead of -J  (joliet fs)?

You can use both. I normally create ISOs like this:
# mkisofs -R -l -J filename.iso directory

Actually, because I usually want the CD created with the files in a 
subdirectory on the CD, I usually use something like
# mkisofs -R -l -J -graft-points filename.iso /dirname/=/directory/

You only need -J if at some point you might try to mount the CD under 
Windoze.

If you are making backups, you are probably better off using -R instead 
of -r, so that file ownership and permissions are preserved. If handing 
the CD out to other people, then the -r is better.

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Re: Schedule emails in sendmail

2002-02-21 Thread David Talkington

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Nat B. wrote:

is there a way to schedule a time to send a message to a mailing list?
Is there a parameter that should be inserted in the mail header, and treated 
by sendmail or majordomo in order to delay the message to a certain time or 
date?

Cron?

- -d

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losing DSL connection after lots of updates

2002-02-21 Thread Charles Galpin

I ran up2date on a 7.2 PC that was getting a bit behind in updates (but
running perfectly). One of the updates was the 2.4.9 kernel.

Since then it is constantly losing it's DSL connection. Since I'm
administering it remotely I'm having trouble figuring out what's going
wrong. There are no signs of trouble in the logs, and a simple ifup eth1
brings the interface back up.

Using dhcpcd-1.3.18pl8-13. I honestly don't remember the old version
number, but it was updated. 

I'm booted back off the 2.4.7 kernel since that's the only easy change I
can back out of, but have yet to see if this fixes it.

Anyone seen anything like this? Anyone know how to query rpm for all
packages installed since a date (so I can see what else changed)

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Re: Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread David Talkington

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Jerry Winegarden wrote:

However, you asked (below) about the quickest way to do the file 
transfers: via floppy.  You need to have a package installed on Linux 
called mtools.

Then, you can use the mcopy command to write the data file to/from MS-DOS 
formatted floppy.

That's not normally necessary.  You can mount a DOS floppy in Linux
as-is, as long as the kernel has support for it (Red Hat's does, by
default).  Just mount it; it'll figure out what it is.

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RE: Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread Ismael Touama

Hi 

thanks i just find the link.
Graphically it brings me some problem...
I work on it (just feel bad with mount concept)
ism

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Jerry Winegarden wrote:

However, you asked (below) about the quickest way to do the file 
transfers: via floppy.  You need to have a package installed on Linux 
called mtools.

Then, you can use the mcopy command to write the data file to/from MS-DOS 
formatted floppy.

That's not normally necessary.  You can mount a DOS floppy in Linux
as-is, as long as the kernel has support for it (Red Hat's does, by
default).  Just mount it; it'll figure out what it is.

- -d

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RE: Transfert, linux to win, by floppy

2002-02-21 Thread Ismael Touama

My server is out of my LAN.
And it will until i've got solid bases
and a minimum security options set.

That's why I'm looking for this solution.
thx,
ism

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you can always use samba or just ftp the files.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 10:12AM 
Hi,

Quite new to linux, i'd like to know how can I transfert data written on my
floppy
under linux throught win.
I don't yet understand system file very good...and i've got a network
printer.
My server is not still on it...I need to rpint things such as 'vi command
line', files...

I've heard about
unix2dos
dos2linux

But find nowhere as simple user...

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RE: rcp, nfs or ftp?

2002-02-21 Thread David Talkington

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Williams, Jeff wrote:

One thing I did find out and maybe someone can give me some insight to this
one.   Once when trying rcp and having lots of nodes go to one server to
push their files, after a few minutes inetd reported that too many
connections where encountered and it shutdown for about 5 minutes due to a
denial of service attack.  

I certainly hope that you control your DNS, and that you're
firewalled.  This is giving me the creeps.  ;-)

To answer your question, ssh can use inetd, but doesn't by default,
and shouldn't.  It's therefore not subject to the limitations of
inetd.

With nfs I constantly see errors in the messages file about nfs server not
responding and then immediately it says it found the nfs server.  To me this
sounds like broadcast traffic...  

nfs can be flaky in a multiplatform or multi-nfs-version environment.  
You didn't elaborate on that, so dunno.

Right now, we have many scripts that utilize all four methods if you include
scp.  I'm just trying to get things more in sync and try to use one method
that would be best.

- From what you've told us, I think you sound like a great candidate for
rsync over ssh.  It's a platform-independent solution, and rsync's
advantage is that it only (if configured as such) transfers diffs,
which cuts way down on traffic.  Running it with ssh as the transport
keeps everything secure.

I do note that I've had some problems with rsync which may have been 
related to incremental backups on ext3, so if that applies to you, 
watch it carefully.  (Chris, the corrupted files never came back after 
I added -W ...)

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Re: Connecting to Novell

2002-02-21 Thread Carl D. Blake

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 17:29, Hossein S. Zadeh wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 07:54, Carl D. Blake wrote:
  I'm stumped too.  I'm running a RH 7.1 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18-3.i386,
  ncpfs-2.2.0.18-3.i386 and a RH 7.2 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18.6.i386, and
  ncpfs-2.2.0.18-6.i386.  Both systems connect to Netware 4.11 SP7 with no
  problems.  I can't understand why you would be having a problem
  
  On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 13:48, James Pifer wrote:
   Yes, I've tried bindery as well, but I get a different error when doing
   that. 
   
   The Netware server I'm trying to hit is 5.1 SP2a. 
   
 
 
 Well, doesn't 4.2 uses IPX by default (and TCP/IP as an option), and 5.1
 does TCP/IP by default (and IPX as an option)?
 
Good point.  Actually, 4.11 (and I believe 4.2) won't use TCP/IP at all
for communication with the server itself.  It will act as a router for
TCP/IP packets, but you can't connect to the file server itself through
TCP/IP.  When they moved to 5.0 and up they allow you to connect to the
server through TCP/IP.  Maybe that's what's going on here.  Is the 5.1
Netware server setup to use IPX?
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Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread Brian K. Jones

Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat 8 
or its beta?  (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm wrong, 
please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next release).
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Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Brian K. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat 8 
 or its beta?  (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm wrong, 
 please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next release).

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Re: losing DSL connection after lots of updates

2002-02-21 Thread Charles Galpin

On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 12:12, Hal Burgiss wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:55:56AM -0500, Charles Galpin wrote:
  
  Anyone seen anything like this? Anyone know how to query rpm for all
  packages installed since a date (so I can see what else changed)
 
 rpm -qa --last (shows all in date order)

awsome. sorry for not bothering to look that up myself :)
 
 Does it happen with any regularity (like when the lease is up)? I have
 seen something similar but it was the ISPs problem, with the way the
 handled ARP traffic or somesuch.

Since I'm not there it's hard to tell. I'll set up a cron job with wget
to a non existant file so I have a record of when it's alive or not.
That should give me a good idea. Good question though. The ip never
changes btw.

I could just have a cron job run ifup periodically, but what a hack. I'd
rather fix it.

Here is what changed. Yes, I'm guilty of not keeping her current (until
now).

XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.1.0-15  Sat 16 Feb 2002 10:12:11
AM EST
kernel-source-2.4.9-21Sat 16 Feb 2002 09:44:40
AM EST
kernel-headers-2.4.9-21   Sat 16 Feb 2002 09:44:07
AM EST
kernel-2.4.9-21   Sat 16 Feb 2002 09:35:07
AM EST
printconf-0.3.61-3Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:30:06
PM EST
Omni-foomatic-0.5.0-4 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:30:04
PM EST
ghostscript-6.51-16   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:30:00
PM EST
Omni-0.5.0-4  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:50
PM EST
vim-minimal-6.0-7.13  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:42
PM EST
vim-enhanced-6.0-7.13 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:42
PM EST
vim-common-6.0-7.13   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:37
PM EST
uucp-1.06.1-33.7.2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:30
PM EST
redhat-config-network-0.9.10-2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:28
PM EST
usermode-1.46-1   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:26
PM EST
nfs-utils-0.3.1-13.7.2.1  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:25
PM EST
foomatic-1.1-0.20011218.3 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:13
PM EST
Xconfigurator-4.9.39-2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:09
PM EST
initscripts-6.43-1Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:07
PM EST
util-linux-2.11f-17   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:04
PM EST
ttfonts-ja-1.0-7  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:29:01
PM EST
tmpwatch-2.8.1-1  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:54
PM EST
sudo-1.6.4-0.7x.2 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:54
PM EST
rsync-2.4.6-10Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:54
PM EST
pine-4.44-1.72.0  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:53
PM EST
pam-devel-0.75-19 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:50
PM EST
openldap-servers-2.0.21-1 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:49
PM EST
openldap-clients-2.0.21-1 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:47
PM EST
openldap-2.0.21-1 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:46
PM EST
cyrus-sasl-plain-1.5.24-23Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:46
PM EST
cyrus-sasl-md5-1.5.24-23  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:46
PM EST
cyrus-sasl-devel-1.5.24-23Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:45
PM EST
XFree86-xdm-4.1.0-15  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:44
PM EST
XFree86-twm-4.1.0-15  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:44
PM EST
cyrus-sasl-1.5.24-23  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:44
PM EST
XFree86-tools-4.1.0-15Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:43
PM EST
Mesa-3.4.2-10 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:42
PM EST
XFree86-4.1.0-15  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:30
PM EST
pam-0.75-19   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:11
PM EST
mutt-1.2.5.1-1Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:09
PM EST
modutils-2.4.13-0.7.1 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:07
PM EST
mod_auth_pgsql-0.9.9-2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:06
PM EST
libxslt-1.0.7-2   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:05
PM EST
libxml2-2.4.10-0.7x.2 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:03
PM EST
iptables-1.2.4-2  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:02
PM EST
groff-perl-1.17.2-7.0.2   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:28:01
PM EST
groff-1.17.2-7.0.2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:58
PM EST
glibc-profile-2.2.4-19.3  Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:55
PM EST
glibc-devel-2.2.4-19.3Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:46
PM EST
gdb-5.1-1 Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:35
PM EST
eel-1.0.2-2   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:33
PM EST
at-3.1.8-23   Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:31
PM EST
apache-manual-1.3.22-2Fri 15 Feb 2002 11:27:30
PM EST

Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Jim Hayward

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:17:40 -0700
Frank Carreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip...
 I try and compile.  Getting the following message:
 
 ---
 
 In function `main`:
 undefined reference to `pow`
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 ---
 
 I'm trying to calculate a value (x) raised to the y power.  I suspect 
 there is a library not found by the linker (wild guess).
 
 Any thoughts on how I can track this down?
 
 Thx

$ apropos pow
README.machten [perlmachten] (1)  - Perl version 5 on Power MachTen systems
apm  (1)  - query Advanced Power Management (APM) BIOS
apmd (8)  - Advanced Power Management (APM) daemon
exp  (3)  - exponential, logarithmic and power functions
ldexp(3)  - multiply floating-point number by integral power of 2
log [exp](3)  - exponential, logarithmic and power functions
log10 [exp]  (3)  - exponential, logarithmic and power functions
pow [exp](3)  - exponential, logarithmic and power functions
poweroff [halt]  (8)  - stop the system

Then look at the manpage for the pow function

From the manpage
snip..
EXP(3)  Linux Programmer's Manual  EXP(3)

NAME
   exp, log, log10, pow - exponential, logarithmic and power functions

SYNOPSIS
   #include math.h
snip...

The pow function is in math.h

Regards,
Jim H


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Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Frank Carreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Not sure if this is the right list for it but here goes...
 
 I'm currently learning how to code in C.  I'm using a RedHat 7.1
 workstation which when installed I selected to install everything (I
 don't like messing with dependancies ::grinz::).  I've been including
 stdio.h and the last few weeks everything has been happy.  The last
 couple of days I've been learning about math.h however it's failing
 when I try and compile.  Getting the following message:
 
 ---
 
 In function `main`:
 undefined reference to `pow`
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 ---
 
 I'm trying to calculate a value (x) raised to the y power.  I suspect
 there is a library not found by the linker (wild guess).
 
 Any thoughts on how I can track this down?

-lm (link with the standard math library)

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Re: Connecting to Novell

2002-02-21 Thread James Pifer

Both IP and IPX are configured. 

James

On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 12:12, Carl D. Blake wrote:
 On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 17:29, Hossein S. Zadeh wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 07:54, Carl D. Blake wrote:
   I'm stumped too.  I'm running a RH 7.1 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18-3.i386,
   ncpfs-2.2.0.18-3.i386 and a RH 7.2 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18.6.i386, and
   ncpfs-2.2.0.18-6.i386.  Both systems connect to Netware 4.11 SP7 with no
   problems.  I can't understand why you would be having a problem
   
   On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 13:48, James Pifer wrote:
Yes, I've tried bindery as well, but I get a different error when doing
that. 

The Netware server I'm trying to hit is 5.1 SP2a. 

  
  
  Well, doesn't 4.2 uses IPX by default (and TCP/IP as an option), and 5.1
  does TCP/IP by default (and IPX as an option)?
  
 Good point.  Actually, 4.11 (and I believe 4.2) won't use TCP/IP at all
 for communication with the server itself.  It will act as a router for
 TCP/IP packets, but you can't connect to the file server itself through
 TCP/IP.  When they moved to 5.0 and up they allow you to connect to the
 server through TCP/IP.  Maybe that's what's going on here.  Is the 5.1
 Netware server setup to use IPX?
  Hossein
  
  
  
  
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Re: Re[2]: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Gene Sais

Brian - I think you are correct. I suspect its a bad burn.  I am using nero burner.  I 
burned the CD using boot cd, also tried compiling new CD option.  What files are 
needed to install RH 7.2?

On the CD's now:

CD1: .iso  boot.img
CD2: .iso

Do I need to expand the iso files or can RH install using them?  I checked the RH how 
to install link and it doesn't mention details about dealing w/ ISO files.  I never 
used them before.  The only CDs that work are 7.1 CDs that I purchased.  These CDs 
list all the files needed for the install.  

PS. Do I need to use WinImage or WinISO, etc.?

Gene

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Thursday, February 21, 2002, 11:01:59 AM, you textually orated:

GS Interesting note, official CD works (purchased), not an ISO image file.
GS The downloaded ISO file burned to CDROM does not work. It boots but can
GS not find a Red Hat CDROM. Does the burnt CDROM require the boot.img or
GS is the ISO file good enough to boot from?

Are you saying that when you look at this CD on an already running system
that you see only one file on it? (foo.x.x.iso)

If that is the case, then you mistook how to create a CD from an ISO.


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Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread Timothy Lee Young

I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3,
instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other
components.  Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel
or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9,
until then.

Linux vendors are getting a little crazy with their version schemes; what,
are they all trying to see who can get to the famed X (10) release
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Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Frank Carreiro



That worked thanks :-)

I've read through the gcc man page and didn't see the -lm option.  In my 
source as I understand it #include math.h should have done it.  Out of 
curiosity is there a way to compile without specifying -lm?

Just wondering why -lm is required for standard math functions.

Thanks again!

Frank


Frank Carreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[snip]

 
 ---
 
 In function `main`:
 undefined reference to `pow`
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 ---
 
 I'm trying to calculate a value (x) raised to the y power.  I suspect
 there is a library not found by the linker (wild guess).
 
 Any thoughts on how I can track this down?


-lm (link with the standard math library)

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Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread Brian K. Jones

Good idea. :)

On Thursday 21 February 2002 12:27 pm, you wrote:
 Brian K. Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Does anyone over at redhat have any ballpark estimates for redhat
  8 or its beta?  (I'm assuming 8 will be the next version, if I'm
  wrong, please correct me - I'm looking for an eta of the next
  release).

 We don't preannounce dates or versions.

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Re: openssh redhat 6.2

2002-02-21 Thread Carl D. Blake

I'm using openssh V2.9p2 on RedHat 6.2.  I had to get it from
openssh.org.  Unfortunately, I just checked their available downloads
and 2.9p2 is no longer available (or at least I couldn't find it).  They
have 3.0.2p1 available, but it's only compiled for RedHat 7.2.  You
could try downloading the src rpm and doing an rpm --rebuild on it on
your 6.2 system and see if it configures and compiles.

Good luck.

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 17:44, Steve Lee wrote:
 would the later distributions src rpm compile
 under RedHat 6.2 ?
 or am i just stuck without it ?
 
 
 
 On 20 Feb 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
 
  Steve Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   where is the RedHat 7.0  openssh stuff.
   can't find it anywhere.
   redhat doesn't seem to have it on there site.
  
  It's in the distribution and in the updates for Red Hat Linux 7 and
  later. We have not released it for Red Hat Linux 6.2.
  
 
 
 
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RE: rcp, nfs or ftp?

2002-02-21 Thread Paul Hamm

NFS and NDMP are the fastest ways to backup just be sure to set the read and
write size on your nfs mounts to 8192 as the default 1024 is just a bottle
neck for performance.  If you plan on doing backups to tape I recommend you
use something that maintains a database of your data/files restores get real
ugly without it.  Also tape libraries are really important with the size of
hard drives now.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 10:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: rcp, nfs or ftp?


Essentially, I'm trying to figure out which way would be best as a
standard...  I do have some older production machines that I'm not sure will
run a current version of ssh...  (Not sure on that one, I'll have to check)
Often I'll have to bring up nodes that are some what identical to other
nodes and one of the processes is to backup certain files using an automated
process to push the files to a backup server.  (This is where my question
comes into play)  I want something that can be easy to bring up a node
without too much human error and doesn't bring down the server...  

One thing I did find out and maybe someone can give me some insight to this
one.   Once when trying rcp and having lots of nodes go to one server to
push their files, after a few minutes inetd reported that too many
connections where encountered and it shutdown for about 5 minutes due to a
denial of service attack.  This is an issue that I want to make sure I don't
run into.  I think that I might have ran into this one with ftp also...
Does scp have this limitation since it's not under inetd?

With nfs I constantly see errors in the messages file about nfs server not
responding and then immediately it says it found the nfs server.  To me this
sounds like broadcast traffic...  

Right now, we have many scripts that utilize all four methods if you include
scp.  I'm just trying to get things more in sync and try to use one method
that would be best.

Thanks for all the input!

Jeff Williams



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I'm trying to figure out from a bandwidth, system utilization and security
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Is there a significant difference between the three?  I'm automating
certain
things and trying to figure out which is better in transfering files?

There are more important considerations than speed.  If you're
transferring files between two machines with an internet connection,
they all stink.  Paint us a picture of your needs, topology, and
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RE: How to set IP Forwarding in RH 7.2 ?

2002-02-21 Thread Ryan Speed

vi /etc/sysctrl.conf

Replace net.ipv4.ip_forward = 0
With net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1

Or add net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 if it's not already there.

Echo 1  /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward

Above command will add it one time, but upon reboot you will lose it.

Hope that helps,
ryan

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:I would like to know where I can set the IP Forwarding in RH 
:7.2 and why I can't use the netcfg under Xwindow ?
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Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Frank Carreiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That worked thanks :-)
 
 I've read through the gcc man page and didn't see the -lm option.  In
 my source as I understand it #include math.h should have done it.

No, it only declares the symbols and functions. A header file does not
specify linking.


 Out of curiosity is there a way to compile without specifying -lm?
 
 Just wondering why -lm is required for standard math functions.

Because libm contains the standard math functions.

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Re: losing DSL connection after lots of updates

2002-02-21 Thread Ed Wilts

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:55:56AM -0500, Charles Galpin wrote:
 Anyone seen anything like this? Anyone know how to query rpm for all
 packages installed since a date (so I can see what else changed)

The following script will list all your packages sorted by the time they
were installed.

#!/bin/bash

rpm -qa --queryformat '%{installtime} %{name}-%{version}-%{release} 
%{installtime:date}\n' | sort -g | sed -e 's/^[^ ]* //' 

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RE: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Paul Hamm

It is possible that you have an issue with IDE and cable select.  Check that
your CD is configured as a master or slave not as a cable select device, all
you should have to do is move a single jumper on the cdrom drive itself.
Cable select is a previously identified issue with some of the current
releases of linux.  

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Subject: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1


Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh
7.2 iso file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I
get the following error:

I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert
the Red Hat CD and press OK to retry.

Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded)
rather than using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!

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C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Frank Carreiro

Not sure if this is the right list for it but here goes...

I'm currently learning how to code in C.  I'm using a RedHat 7.1 
workstation which when installed I selected to install everything (I 
don't like messing with dependancies ::grinz::).  I've been including 
stdio.h and the last few weeks everything has been happy.  The last 
couple of days I've been learning about math.h however it's failing when 
I try and compile.  Getting the following message:

---

In function `main`:
undefined reference to `pow`
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

---

I'm trying to calculate a value (x) raised to the y power.  I suspect 
there is a library not found by the linker (wild guess).

Any thoughts on how I can track this down?

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Carl D. Blake

It sounds like you took a boot.img file and a rh 7.2 iso file and burned
those files onto a CD so that if you looked at the files on the CD you
would see
boot.img
rh7.2.iso
This is the wrong way to use an iso file.  The iso file is the actual
image you want to use to burn the CD with.  If you use XCDRoast to burn
the CD you would just go to the write cd button, tell it you want to use
the iso file and then burn the cd.  You wouldn't use the boot.img file
at all.

Hope this helps.

On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 08:23, Gene Sais wrote:
 i think it finds the cdrom, just can't find the files needed for install (i.e. iso 
file).  i just tried a rh 7.1 cd and it worked.  this cd is not a single iso file but 
rh distribution (all the files expanded).  maybe it doesn't work w/ iso files? 
 
 gene
 
  Willem van der Walt[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/21/02 
09:26AM 
 hi,
 I think your cd is fine.
 It sounds like the install cd kernel does not see your cdrom.
 I think you can press alt-f2 to get to a kind of a shell prompt.
 From there you might be able to see what it picked up.
 You can also try to create an install floppy and try booting with that.
 May be, it then picks up the cd.  I once had that working for a simelar 
 problem
 on an older rh version.
 regards, Willem
 
 On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Gene Sais wrote:
 
  Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
error:
  
  I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the 
Red Hat CD and press OK to retry.
  
  Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather 
than using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
  
  Gene
  
  
  
  
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Re: Connecting to Novell 2

2002-02-21 Thread Carl D. Blake

On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 14:17, Lewi wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 09:21:04AM -0500, Lewi wrote:
  On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:29:15AM +1100, Hossein S. Zadeh wrote:
   On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 07:54, Carl D. Blake wrote:
I'm stumped too.  I'm running a RH 7.1 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18-3.i386,
ncpfs-2.2.0.18-3.i386 and a RH 7.2 with ipxutils-2.2.0.18.6.i386, and
ncpfs-2.2.0.18-6.i386.  Both systems connect to Netware 4.11 SP7 with no
problems.  I can't understand why you would be having a problem

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 13:48, James Pifer wrote:
 Yes, I've tried bindery as well, but I get a different error when doing
 that. 
 
 The Netware server I'm trying to hit is 5.1 SP2a. 
 
   
   
   Well, doesn't 4.2 uses IPX by default (and TCP/IP as an option), and 5.1
   does TCP/IP by default (and IPX as an option)?
   
   Hossein
  my campus using novell ver. 4.11, about a month ago from my redhat box and 
potato(debian) successfully mount novell(using -b as parameter), but after that 
suddenly two linux box can't connected to, I know it's silly, until now I don't know 
why?
  because both setting doesn't change.
  but when I reboot my linux box, it can mount again. what cause it?
 
 when I make little experiments, when my redhat box set for the first time(when 
rebooting)
 i set the ipx_configure, i can connect again to novell. but when with that 
conditions if i reboot setting for my network(service network restart) then 
connection to novell fail, it's still fail if i try ipx_configure off and 
ipx_configure on again.
 does someone know anything about this, how it can be happen?
Hmmm, you could try using the following sequence of commands:
ipx_interface delall
ipx_interface add -p eth0 802.2
where eth0 is the name of the ethernet device and 802.2 is the frame
type you're using.

   
   
   
   
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Re: USB Joystick and USB Hub

2002-02-21 Thread Carl D. Blake

You can do a cat of /proc/bus/usb/devices and see what it reports.  It
should list all of your USB devices and hubs.

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 18:12, James Pifer wrote:
 Is it true I have to recompile the kernel to use my USB joystick and USB
 hub?
 
 My install is fairly new, RH72(full install). I have stuff listed in
 /dev/input like js0, js1, etc. 
 
 If I do cat /dev/input/js0 I get No such device.
 
 Didn't find much in the archives about joysticks. What I did find
 searching google was a lot about rebuilding the kernel. 
 
 How can I tell if RH sees my USB hub and joystick?
 
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Re: openssh redhat 6.2

2002-02-21 Thread Ed Wilts

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 11:31:02AM -0700, Carl D. Blake wrote:
 I'm using openssh V2.9p2 on RedHat 6.2.  I had to get it from
 openssh.org.  Unfortunately, I just checked their available downloads
 and 2.9p2 is no longer available (or at least I couldn't find it).  They
 have 3.0.2p1 available, but it's only compiled for RedHat 7.2.  You
 could try downloading the src rpm and doing an rpm --rebuild on it on
 your 6.2 system and see if it configures and compiles.

I believe it does configure and compile.  We're running 3.0.2p1-1 here on our
6.2 systems.  It wasn't me that built it, but I don't believe we had to do
anything too fancy.

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Re[4]: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Brian Ashe

Hello Gene,

Thursday, February 21, 2002, 1:53:17 PM, you textually orated:

GS Brian - I think you are correct. I suspect its a bad burn. I am using
GS nero burner. I burned the CD using boot cd, also tried compiling new CD
GS option. What files are needed to install RH 7.2?

GS On the CD's now:

GS CD1: .iso  boot.img
GS CD2: .iso

This is wrong.

GS Do I need to expand the iso files or can RH install using them?

The CD burner software you use should be able to expand them on it's own.

GS PS. Do I need to use WinImage or WinISO, etc.?

No.

An ISO file is a single file representing the contents of a CD. All (that I
know of) CD burning software is capable of creating a working CD from an
ISO. Some have their own Image format as well.

I don't use Nero so I can not tell you the exact thing to look for.

What you need is something that says Create CD from Image or Create CD
using ISO or something along those lines. This will expand the contents
of the ISO properly onto the CD. You should wind up with the contents (once
burned) looking similar to the RH 7.1 you have (of course not exactly as it
is a different version). It should also be bootable at that point as well.

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Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread Brian Ashe

Hello Timothy,

Thursday, February 21, 2002, 1:57:06 PM, you textually orated:

TLY I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next release 7.3,
TLY instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or other
TLY components.  Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6 kernel
TLY or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even 7.9,
TLY until then.

Red Hat's major version numbers have historically been based on binary
compatibility. So as soon as they're comfortable with GCC 3.0 I would
suspect that they will release an 8.0

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How to change system time of redhat 7.2 linux system

2002-02-21 Thread Jianping Zhu


Thanks


Jianping Zhu
Department of Computer Science
Univerity of Georgia 
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RE: Can someone teach me how to set the IP-Table on RedHat 7.2 ?

2002-02-21 Thread Paul Hamm

iptables it the firewall of choice on kernel 2.4.  There is a very nice well
documented script to run iptables it is called gShield.  Get it from here
http://muse.linuxmafia.org/gshield.html.  Make sure that ipchains is turned
off and that iptables is turned on  chkconfig --level 345 ipchains off 
chkconfig --level 345 iptables on. Then reboot you can do the rmmod insmod
if you like but rebooting works fine if you are not sure how.  The main
configuration file for gShield is /etc/firewall/gShield.conf.  Start gShield
by running  /etc/firewall/gShield.rc be sure to add this to a boot script
so it starts automatically /etc/rc.d/rc.local will do.  Out of the tarball
gShield will give you a nice tight firewall configuration.  Just check that
your internet and internal NICs are properly identified in the config file
and that your private IP network is configured in /etc/firewall/conf/NATS.
gShield has some settings for DMZ,  DMZ is generally a third NIC in your
firewall that handles machines that need to be visible on the net but that
you want to keep away from your internal network.

Kevin your diagram looks as though you have a network configuration issue on
the internal NIC you should have something like this the internal, private
ip network should be the same not mixed.

+--+
| Internet |
+--+
   |
+---+
| PPP/Internet Interface(Some_Public_IP)|
|   ||  |
|  Firewall/Gateway server  |
|   ||  |
| Internal Network Interface (10.x.x.x) |
+---+
   |
++
| Client machines (10.x.x.x) |
++

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 10:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can someone teach me how to set the IP-Table on RedHat 7.2 ?


Hi all,

Can someone teach me how to set the IP-Table on RedHat 7.2  ?

I would like to set the PPP Client IP-10.0.0.1 can browse interent through
PPP Server IP-192.168.13.222.  The simple diagram as below :

 Internet(0.0.0.0)
   |
 PPP Server-Internal Interface(192.168.13.222)
   |
 PPP Client (10.0.0.1)

I was wrote the scripts on below files, but seem like don't work (p.s. these
scripts is working on RH 7.0):

 etc/ppp/ip-up.local
---
#!/bin/bash
ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.01 -d 0/0 -j MASQ
exit 0

 etc/ppp/ip-down.local
---
#!/bin/bash
ipchains -D forward -s 10.0.0.1 -d 0/0 -j MASQ
exit 0

Please teach me how  where I can set the IP-Table to solve my
problem thanks !

Best regards,
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Re: How to change system time of redhat 7.2 linux system

2002-02-21 Thread Brig C. McCoy

If the machine's on the net, the easiest is to go to ROOT and use the rdate 
command... man rdate for details.

You can check Google or other search engines for leads on rdate servers in 
your area.

...brig

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Re: How to change system time of redhat 7.2 linux system

2002-02-21 Thread ChrisHoover


You can also use ntpdate (install the ntp rpm if not already installed).

Also, you can do a date -s I believe (double check the date man page).

Chris


   
 
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You can check Google or other search engines for leads on rdate servers in
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Re: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread David Talkington

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Timothy Lee Young wrote:

Linux vendors are getting a little crazy with their version schemes; what,
are they all trying to see who can get to the famed X (10) release
first?

Of course.  Only then will they be able to effectively compete with 
the Mac.  Of course, with Windows already at 2002, there's still a lot 
of catching up to do.  ;-)

Cracks me up every time I see a New! Faster! 'version' of AOL ...  
Platinum, now, is it?  Especially with that sweet 1000 hours free deal
they've got going on.  It's only good for 45 days.  To fully realize
the benefits of this generous offer, you'd have to be dialed up for
over 22 hours a day.

What?  I'm OT again?  Sorry ...

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up2date doesn't agree with system profile

2002-02-21 Thread Gregg Morris

I don't know if this is in the nature of a bug or not, but this is
what happens.
If, from the command line, I run up2date -u --nox, it fails with the
error,

RPM conflict error.  The message was:
Test install failed because of package conflicts:
package libpng-1.0.12-2 is already installed

I've tried running up2date -p and up2date --justdb libpng-1.0.12-2
with no success.

This has been happening for several months now.  I can schedule the
updates from the website and the specific packages that I choose get
updated, but something is out of sync with my rpm database and the
up2date database.

Is there something else I need to be doing to bring things into sync?

Regards,
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Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Dave Ihnat

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 02:57:58PM -0500, Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote:
 No, it only declares the symbols and functions. A header file does not
 specify linking.
 
  Out of curiosity is there a way to compile without specifying -lm?
  
  Just wondering why -lm is required for standard math functions.
 
 Because libm contains the standard math functions.

A bit more explanation--although this isn't specifically RedHat, or even
Linux, so it should be on a software development list...so the following
is necessarily simplified.  But it should dispell some misconceptions I
think I see.

A program consists of code that is compiled from source into machine
executable instructions.  If you had to rebuild all source every time you
tried to build the program, the development process would be exceedingly
time-consuming and tedious; and usually, changes are only to a small
portion of the code at any given time.  Therefore, it's desirable to do
this in stages.

Thus, it's possible to compile portions--usually segregated in separate
source files--of the program into an intermediate form called an object
file.  A program called the 'linker' then can combine these intermediate
object files into a functioning executable file.  When components of the
program are separated in this manner, header files provide information
about the other portions of the program--such as valid function names,
values for arguments, etc.--that need to be used to reference these in
the source of any given element.  The intermediate object files contain
these _external_ references in a form recognizable to the 'linker', which
can then reconcile them all when it constructs the final executable.

Much code is common--for instance, math functions--and doesn't change
between different programs that use it.  Thus, common functions are
compiled into intermediate object form, and the resulting files are
grouped together in an object library for convenience.  The linker knows
how to select just the objects it needs from the library.

That's about as simplified as I can make it, but I hope it helps.
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php upgrade!

2002-02-21 Thread Devon Harding - GTHLA
Title: php upgrade!





How can I upgrade the version of php from RedHat 7.0 to the version from RedHat 7.2 without reinstalling the OS? When I try rpm -Uvh ... it fails with dependencies.

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 10:53 21 Feb 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrød [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
|  Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 iso 
|file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the following 
|error:
|  I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the 
|Red Hat CD and press OK to retry.
|  Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather 
|than using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
| Official CDs or ones you burnt yourself? If the latter, reburning
| might be a good idea.

I'd remark that the RH72 CDs won't boot off all machines (including machines
where the RH71 CDs _do_ boot).

I have a minitower here which has a RH71 distro on it because we couldn't get
the RH72 CDs to install. And the CDs themselves are fine.

I thinking it's a driver issue.
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DNS recursive queries and security

2002-02-21 Thread Charles Galpin

Hi

When using http://www.squish.net/dnscheck/ to examine some DNS
configurations it reports:

Security: Server NS1.DOM.COM (x.x.x.x) is recursive

when getting the SOA record.

According to the bind book, bind will make recursive queries to it's
forwarders (if you use the forwarders option).

I was, so I commented the section out and restarted named, but it still
reports this error. I'm guessing this is just a propagation thing.

Is this the correct interpretation? Do I have anything to worry about? I
tried several other well-known domains and they get the same security
warning. redhat.com does not :)

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 10:53 21 Feb 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrød [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | Gene Sais [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 |  Hi All - Newbie to this list.  I have created a boot cd w/ boot.img and rh 7.2 
iso file.  I can boot from the CD.  However, when the install runs, I get the 
following error:
 |  I could not find a Red Hat CDROM in any of your CDROM drives. Please insert the 
Red Hat CD and press OK to retry.
 |  Any clues, hints?  Should I burn a CD using the Red Hat files (expanded) rather 
than using an ISO image?  Any help or suggestion is much appreciated!
 | Official CDs or ones you burnt yourself? If the latter, reburning
 | might be a good idea.
 
 I'd remark that the RH72 CDs won't boot off all machines (including machines
 where the RH71 CDs _do_ boot).
 
 I have a minitower here which has a RH71 distro on it because we couldn't get
 the RH72 CDs to install. And the CDs themselves are fine.
 
 I thinking it's a driver issue.

They are using 2.88MB images, so it might very well be a BIOS
issue. Or selfburnt CDs (e.g. one of my drives gets very confused over
my high-speed CD-RWs). If you have official or otherwise known good
CDs, try combining with a bootdisk.

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Re: php upgrade!

2002-02-21 Thread Nick Wilson

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 How can I upgrade the version of php from RedHat 7.0 to the version from
 RedHat 7.2 without reinstalling the OS?  When I try rpm -Uvh ... it fails
 with dependencies.

Can you install the dependencies?
Perhaps installing the tarball would be better?
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Re: Schedule emails in sendmail

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 08:50 21 Feb 2002, David Talkington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Nat B. wrote:
| is there a way to schedule a time to send a message to a mailing list?
| Is there a parameter that should be inserted in the mail header, and treated 
| by sendmail or majordomo in order to delay the message to a certain time or 
| date?
| 
| Cron?

Or more usefully, at?
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RE: php upgrade!

2002-02-21 Thread Devon Harding - GTHLA
Title: RE: php upgrade!





The dependencies seems to come from RedHat 7.2 which I don't want to reinstall.


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* and then Devon Harding - GTHLA declared
 How can I upgrade the version of php from RedHat 7.0 to the version from
 RedHat 7.2 without reinstalling the OS? When I try rpm -Uvh ... it fails
 with dependencies.


Can you install the dependencies?
Perhaps installing the tarball would be better?
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Re: mkisofs

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 08:39 21 Feb 2002, Duane Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Ezra Nugroho wrote:
| I just read the man page for mkisofs, but I am not very clear about 
| something yet. [...]
| If I want to make an iso image of a directory should I type:
| mkisofs -r -o filename.iso directory
| What is the benefit of using  -r instead of -J  (joliet fs)?
| 
| You can use both. I normally create ISOs like this:
| # mkisofs -R -l -J filename.iso directory

My standard incantation is:

mkisofs -D -J -L -N -r -T -v -V $label -o $out $dir

It's probably worth making a wrapper script. I have two: mkcd and mkiso,
which save me remembering this trivia if I'm just making a plain data
disc. For other purposes, of course, you reach forthe manual...

You can get mkcd and mkiso here:

http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/mkcd/index.html

Hack to suit.

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Re: php upgrade!

2002-02-21 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Devon Harding - GTHLA [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How can I upgrade the version of php from RedHat 7.0 to the version from
 RedHat 7.2 without reinstalling the OS?  

You can upgrade the OS. No need to reinstall, just choose upgrade.
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Re: Subnets and Classes

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 07:25 21 Feb 2002, Jason Costomiris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Wow, that reference guide is written to confuse people.

That reference guide may well predate the term subnet.

| Nobody I know in the industry would refer to 10/8 as anything other than
| an 8-bit subnet, or 172.16/12 as a 12-bit subnet, or 192.168/16 as a
| 16-bit subnet
| In the real world of networking, if you asked for a 24-bit block, you would
| be given a /24, that is, a subnet consisting of 256 addresses.

Yes, but that aren't talking about that. A subnet is inherently contained
within a network - a class A, B or C network. They are talking about a
range of addresses. Its span need not lie within a single network. Indeed,
the address sets they refer do DO NOT lie within single A B or C networks,
and so ARE NOT subnets.

In short, you're confused probably because you don't have the correct
definition of the term subnet, which has a very specific meaning.

Sure, in the real world you're handed a subnet. That's because it's
wasteful to hand our things what aren't subnets - the routing tables
get very ugly. But that RFC isn't talking about subnets.
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Re: losing DSL connection after lots of updates

2002-02-21 Thread Hal Burgiss

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:32:59PM -0500, Charles Galpin wrote:
 
 Since I'm not there it's hard to tell. I'll set up a cron job with wget
 to a non existant file so I have a record of when it's alive or not.
 That should give me a good idea. Good question though. The ip never
 changes btw.
 
 I could just have a cron job run ifup periodically, but what a hack. I'd
 rather fix it.

Yea, I dunno. I'd say the kernel is the most likely suspect. Assuming
it isn't a co-incidence of some kind. I think I'd look at ifconfig and
check for errors too. 

As to a cron job, I do a loop and ping (actually fping) two close IPs,
and if both don't answer, then restart dhcp client (pump here). That way
nothing happens unless there is an apparent need. That also gives some
logging and timestamp info to look at.

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Theoretical question disk space question

2002-02-21 Thread Monte Milanuk

Ok.  This is one that has had me wondering for a while now:

Lets say I have a server that exports /home via NFS.  And I have clients
that mount /home via NFS from that server.  When I go thru the initial
setup, and create a user, though, the '/home' that is used is not (yet)
the one on the server, rather it is under '/' on the clients main hard
drive.  If I log in to the client as an ordinary user immediately after
setup, I see ~/ as it is, freshly created on the client, w/ the various
basic files like .bashrc, etc. rather than the files that are on the
server ~/ for the same user.  Correct?

Now for the question part.  Now, I log out as the user, and log in as
root, and mount the servers /home directory as /home on the client.  So
now when I log in as a user on either machine, I have a persistent view of
my home directory irregardless of which box I'm on.  *SO WHAT HAPPENED TO
THE FILES THAT WERE THERE BEFORE?*  The ones that were created when the
user account was set up, before /home was mounted via NFS.  If I unmount
/home, they appear to still be there, untouched.  How long will they stay
this way?  If /home is mounted, how else would you get to these files, if
you needed to clear out the disk space, for instance?

Just a question thats been bugging me for a while.

TIA,

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RE: Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

2002-02-21 Thread tracker

Any dates or know location of the latest releases?


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Subject: Re[2]: Any ETA on Redhat 8?

Hello Timothy,

Thursday, February 21, 2002, 1:57:06 PM, you textually orated:

TLY I'd think that it would be more appropriate to call the next
release 7.3,
TLY instead of 8.0, because there is no major change in the kernel or
other
TLY components.  Red Hat should save the 8.0 release for like the 2.6
kernel
TLY or something; there's nothing wrong with versions 7.3, 7.4, or even
7.9,
TLY until then.

Red Hat's major version numbers have historically been based on binary
compatibility. So as soon as they're comfortable with GCC 3.0 I would
suspect that they will release an 8.0

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Re: Theoretical question disk space question

2002-02-21 Thread David Talkington

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Monte Milanuk wrote:

Now for the question part.  Now, I log out as the user, and log in as
root, and mount the servers /home directory as /home on the client.  So
now when I log in as a user on either machine, I have a persistent view of
my home directory irregardless of which box I'm on.  *SO WHAT HAPPENED TO
THE FILES THAT WERE THERE BEFORE?* 

Ah, grasshopper, you've discovered one of the seventh wonders of the 
world -- the 'masking' effect when one filesystem is mounted on top of 
another.  :-)

You can get the same effect with any mount, local or nfs.  If you fill 
/usr/local with stuff, then mount some other partition on 
/usr/local, you now have access to the stuff on the new partition -- 
but the stuff on the real /usr/local is hidden, inaccessible to you 
or anyone else until you umount the mounted filesystem.  It's still 
there, obviously, as you saw ... there's just no access path to it.

So if you want, as I do, access to a skeleton home directory on the
client, while still having access to your data on a /home server, you
need to be more creative.  I mount atlantis:/home on
littleblue:/mnt/home, and then put a symlink to /mnt/home/dtalk at
~/atlantis on littleblue.  I can then get to my data via that link, 
without obscuring the local files and configurations on the client.

Does that help?

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Re: Theoretical question disk space question

2002-02-21 Thread rpjday

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, David Talkington wrote:

 Ah, grasshopper, you've discovered one of the seventh wonders of the 
 world -- the 'masking' effect when one filesystem is mounted on top of 
 another.  :-)
 
 You can get the same effect with any mount, local or nfs.  If you fill 
 /usr/local with stuff, then mount some other partition on 
 /usr/local, you now have access to the stuff on the new partition -- 
 but the stuff on the real /usr/local is hidden, inaccessible to you 
 or anyone else until you umount the mounted filesystem.  It's still 
 there, obviously, as you saw ... there's just no access path to it.

although with this release of red hat (7.2), those processes that
had open files underneath the new mount point still have access
to those files.

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Re: RH 7.2 CDROM issue, Dell OptiPlex GX1

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 17:03 21 Feb 2002, Trond Eivind Glomsrød [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  I'd remark that the RH72 CDs won't boot off all machines (including machines
|  where the RH71 CDs _do_ boot).
|  I have a minitower here which has a RH71 distro on it because we couldn't get
|  the RH72 CDs to install. And the CDs themselves are fine.
|  I thinking it's a driver issue.
| 
| They are using 2.88MB images, so it might very well be a BIOS
| issue. Or selfburnt CDs (e.g. one of my drives gets very confused over
| my high-speed CD-RWs). If you have official or otherwise known good
| CDs, try combining with a bootdisk.

Um, I was talking about boot from CD, not floppy boot.
Perhaps this wasn't clear.
I have a machine which will boot from a RH71 install CD but not the RH72
install CD. (Yes, a personally burnt one.) I'll go check exactly what part
doesn't work.
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RE: Upgrading openssh with dependencies:

2002-02-21 Thread Matthew Simpson

Hi David


I found the related openssl package but this is what I get:

# rpm -qf /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6 openssl-0.9.6-9.i386.rpm
file /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.6: No such file or directory
file openssl-0.9.6-9.i386.rpm is not owned by any package


What am I doing wrong?

M

Matthew Simpson wrote:

Where did you find the rpm of openssl096-0.9.6-6 as I can't locate it
anywhere seems to be removed from the redhat site?

I didn't; I just spit out what rpm told me.  Just grab all the
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Re: C Program compile error

2002-02-21 Thread Statux

# gcc -o program code.c -lm

Make sure you're remembering to include the library at compile time. The 
math functions are not part of the standard C library :)

On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Frank Carreiro wrote:

 Not sure if this is the right list for it but here goes...
 
 I'm currently learning how to code in C.  I'm using a RedHat 7.1 
 workstation which when installed I selected to install everything (I 
 don't like messing with dependancies ::grinz::).  I've been including 
 stdio.h and the last few weeks everything has been happy.  The last 
 couple of days I've been learning about math.h however it's failing when 
 I try and compile.  Getting the following message:
 
 ---
 
 In function `main`:
 undefined reference to `pow`
 collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
 
 ---
 
 I'm trying to calculate a value (x) raised to the y power.  I suspect 
 there is a library not found by the linker (wild guess).
 
 Any thoughts on how I can track this down?
 
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Re: Theoretical question disk space question

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 19:04 21 Feb 2002, rpjday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  [...]  It's still 
|  there, obviously, as you saw ... there's just no access path to it.
| although with this release of red hat (7.2), those processes that
| had open files underneath the new mount point still have access
| to those files.

Which is _exactly_ what David just said. Standard UNIX behaviour.
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How to submit jobs to background

2002-02-21 Thread Roger
Title: How to submit jobs to background






Hi guys,

I remember there is a short cut key, Ctrl+something, that can submit the program that is controlling terminal to the background, so that the user could regain console again. But I forget it, can you remind me again? Thanks!




[OT] Enigma (RH7.2) IT Execs' Network/Systems Fave

2002-02-21 Thread Mac ADd

From: IT Execs Pick Their Faves, February 21, 2002
http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article/0,,7_978441,00.html

Datamation.com's audience is comprised primarily of high-level IT 
executives with experience, knowledge, influence and buying power, said 
Chris Nerney, INT Media Group's IT management channel executive editor. 
Their selection of the top products in each of these categories is a 
strong indication of which IT technologies and vendors are best serving the 
needs of enterprise customers in the wake of the failing economy.

The poll was held on the EarthWeb, internet.com and Datamation.com group of 
Web sites throughout December 2001. snip

Winners in each of the 11 awards categories were:

* Network and Systems Software - Red Hat Linux 7.2

* Client Systems, Desktop Product - Dell Precision Workstation 530

* Client Systems, Mobile - Palm m505

* Client Systems, Laptop - Dell Inspiron 8100

* Security - Cisco Systems PIX 501

* Server Hardware - IBM z900 [Again, Linux  Red-Hat related]

* Business Intelligence Software Microsoft, Data Analyzer

* E-Commerce - WebTrends Live 3.0 from NetIQ

* Enterprise Applications - PeopleSoft 8 Supplier Relationship Management

* Network Infrastructure - Brocade Silkworm 3800 Enterprise Fabric Switch

* Application Development - 3-way tie between: 
[1] IBM's Websphere Studio 4.0 [Dang! We still haven't tried out our free 
Developer Toolbox for Linux evaluation CDs, Websphere included, 
available from http://www.ibm.com/software/is/mp/linux/sek/]; 
[2] Macromedia's JRun 3 and UltraDev 4 Studio; and 
[3] Sun Microsystems' Java 2 SDK Enterprise Edition V1.3_01

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Re: How to submit jobs to background

2002-02-21 Thread Mike Burger

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On Fri, 22 Feb 2002, Roger wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 I remember there is a short cut key, Ctrl+something, that can submit the
 program that is controlling terminal to the background, so that the user
 could regain console again. But I forget it, can you remind me again?
 Thanks!
 



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Re: How to submit jobs to background

2002-02-21 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 09:51 22 Feb 2002, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I remember there is a short cut key, Ctrl+something, that can submit the
| program that is controlling terminal to the background, so that the user could
| regain console again. But I forget it, can you remind me again? Thanks!

You mean ctrl-Z.
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RE: How to submit jobs to background

2002-02-21 Thread Roger

Yes, I think it should be Ctrl-Z but, when I press Ctrl-Z the job is
stopped immediately. That's why? 

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Subject: Re: How to submit jobs to background

On 09:51 22 Feb 2002, Roger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I remember there is a short cut key, Ctrl+something, that can submit
the
| program that is controlling terminal to the background, so that the
user could
| regain console again. But I forget it, can you remind me again?
Thanks!

You mean ctrl-Z.
-- 
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http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/

My own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we
suppose,
but queerer than we *can* suppose.
- J.B.S. Haldane On Being the Right Size
  in the (1928) book Possible Worlds



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