Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Kevin Waterson

Is skipjack 7.3 beta

kevin



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Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Paul Dorneanu

was that a question, or you had a revelation?
as the version says it is a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version

Kevin Waterson wrote:

Is skipjack 7.3 beta

kevin

  






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Re: Got SIGSEGV with man-1.5j-6.i386.rpm (rawhide)

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Riku Meskanen wrote:

 Howdy,
 
 Anybody out there get the same with std man command from rawhide?
 
 Or is it just me with 7.2 and upgraded man version from rawhide?
 
 [mesrik@tacit tmp]$ man --
 Segmentation fault
...
 Bugzilla or not?

 Yes, it's in Bugzilla.  I think it was closed, but I reported it some
time ago.  Search for reporter billc at netcomuk dot co dot uk.




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Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Kevin Waterson

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300
Paul Dorneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 was that a question, or you had a revelation?
 as the version says it is a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version

A question. Many seem of the opinion that skipjack is indeed a beta of 7.3
I was unaware it was a beta release. I was thinking it was, as you say,
simply a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version.

I see many items saying it is indeed a 7.3 beta such as
http://www.linuxwatch.org/article.php?sid=82mode=threadorder=0thold=0
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5999
http://www.lugatgt.org/installfest13/dist.php

I have seen no official release saying it is 7.3 beta 8.0 beta or simply
7.2.*

Just trying to muddly through the dis-information
Kevin 



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Re: glob'in the MANPATH (Was: Altering the MANPATH in RPM)

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden

 
 On Sat, 27 Apr 2002, Riku Meskanen wrote:
 
 Ok, spent some more time on it and it config directory is
 now fully functional with relevant IMHO security checks etc.

Thanks Riku.  I will download them today and try them out.  Also,
as soon as I get a chance I will closely examine your patch.  I have
to go through an annoying surgery tommorow, so I won't be able to 
look at it for a few weeks, but again I very glad you saw fit to 
do this.  I was considering doing it myself after talking with you,
but you acted much quicker than.  KUDOs!

 
 RPM will add /etc/man.config.d (relative to your man config
 ofcourse) directory were the another package can add easily
 it's own foo.conf and declare required MANPATH there.
 
 Check http://people.jyu.fi/~mesrik/tmp/man the 'release' 8 has
 it built in and diffs follows, if you prefer those.
 
 I was first thinking making these better configurable options,
 but the package does not use recent autoconfigure, so I simply
 made patches active by default. NOCONFIGD and NOGLOB can
 consequtively disable the features if not desired.

I would think that that is something that the gnu man mainteners could
get perfect if they want.  Also, if I understand you right NOCONFIGD and
NOGLOB are config file directives, so that is easy enough for someone to
turn off.  Also, its the kind of feature that unless you use it intentionally
it won't be activated (i.e. no globbing will occur until a path contains
a glob char).

Cheers...james 
 I would appreciate if Bero and Aeb give glimpse to these
 patches, please. They sure are worth that :)
 
 HTH,
 
 :-) riku
 
 ps.   anybody knows why this man package still uses internal
   glob package that RMS wrote ages ago? It shouldn't be
   much work rewriting that one function to use system wide
   glob ...
 
 --- man-1.5j/src/man-config.c.distFri Apr 26 20:23:21 2002
 +++ man-1.5j/src/man-config.c Fri Apr 26 23:06:48 2002
 @@ -19,6 +19,14 @@
  #include string.h
  #include stdlib.h
 
 +#ifndef NOGLOB
 +/* Can't refer to system glob.h as long as there is local glob.h
 +   on this same directory. Is that really needed any more or would
 +   it be better replace glob_filename() with few lines of code and
 +   call to glob from libc ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 +#include /usr/include/glob.h
 +#endif
 +
  #include defs.h
  #include man-config.h
  #include man.h
 @@ -201,7 +209,10 @@
   char *p;
   char buf[BUFSIZE];
   FILE *config = NULL;
 -
 +#ifndef NOGLOB
 + glob_t  gs;
 + char**gp;
 +#endif
   if (cf) {
 /* User explicitly specified a config file */
 if ((config = fopen (cf, r)) == NULL) {
 @@ -249,9 +260,24 @@
 
 if (!strncmp (MANPATH_MAP, bp, 11))
  adddir (bp+11, 0);
 -   else if (!strncmp (MANPATH, bp, 7))
 +   else if (!strncmp (MANPATH, bp, 7)) {
 +#ifndef NOGLOB
 +/* config glob manpath support - [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
 +p = bp+7;
 +while (whitespace(*p))
 +  p++;
 +if (!glob(p,0,NULL,gs)) {
 +  for (gp = gs.gl_pathv; *gp; gp++) {
 +   adddir (*gp, 1);
 +  }
 +} else {
 +  adddir(bp+7,1);
 +}
 +globfree(gs);
 +#else
  adddir (bp+7, 1);
 -   else if(!strncmp (MANDATORY_MANPATH, bp, 17))/* backwards compatible */
 +#endif
 +  } else if(!strncmp (MANDATORY_MANPATH, bp, 17))/* backwards compatible 
*/
  adddir (bp+17, 1);
 else if (!strncmp (FHS, bp, 3))
  fhs = 1;
 --- man-1.5j/src/man.conf.in.diff Fri Apr 26 23:33:46 2002
 +++ man-1.5j/src/man.conf.in  Fri Apr 26 23:34:13 2002
 @@ -40,6 +40,7 @@
  MANPATH  /usr/X11R6/man
  MANPATH  /usr/local/man
  MANPATH /usr/kerberos/man
 +MANPATH /opt/*/man
  MANPATH  /usr/man
  #
  # Uncomment if you want to include one of these by default
 
 --- man-1.5j/src/man-config.c.distSat Apr 27 15:56:34 2002
 +++ man-1.5j/src/man-config.c Sat Apr 27 15:57:43 2002
 @@ -26,6 +26,13 @@
 call to glob from libc ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] */
  #include /usr/include/glob.h
  #endif
 +#ifndef NOCONFIGD
 +#include sys/types.h
 +#include sys/stat.h
 +#include unistd.h
 +#include libgen.h
 +char  *manconfigd = NULL; /* global used to pass possible config include dir */
 +#endif
 
  #include defs.h
  #include man-config.h
 @@ -213,6 +220,11 @@
   glob_t  gs;
   char**gp;
  #endif
 +#ifndef NOCONFIGD
 + char*dn = NULL;
 + char*fn = NULL;
 + struct  stat ds;
 +#endif
   if (cf) {
 /* User explicitly specified a config file */
 if ((config = fopen (cf, r)) == NULL) {
 @@ -235,6 +247,31 @@
  gripe (CONFIG_OPEN_ERROR, CONFIG_FILE);
  return;
 }
 +#ifndef NOCONFIGD
 +   /* build config dir and check that it us owned by root, in
 +  root group and group and others must not have write perms
 +  -- 

Passing parameters with options to a C program

2002-04-29 Thread Javier Fradiletti

I need to pass some parameters to a C prorgam, but in the form 
program_name -i input_file -o output_file .

There is another way than inspecting the String[] that comes 
as parameter in main ?
If it is, please let me know, because i think it's better 
than my solution!! ;-))

Regards,

javier f.



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Re: Passing parameters with options to a C program

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden

 
 I need to pass some parameters to a C prorgam, but in the form 
   program_name -i input_file -o output_file .
 
 There is another way than inspecting the String[] that comes 
 as parameter in main ?
 If it is, please let me know, because i think it's better 
 than my solution!! ;-))
 
Hi Javier,

try:

man 3 getopt

I also I believe the popt library is an alternate way of doing this:

man 3 popt

On the other hand if you are asking about this, probably writing your
own code to parse char **argv is a good excercise.

Cheers...james



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Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Peter Bowen

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 06:52, Kevin Waterson wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300
 
 A question. Many seem of the opinion that skipjack is indeed a beta of 7.3
 I was unaware it was a beta release. I was thinking it was, as you say,
 simply a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version.
 
 I have seen no official release saying it is 7.3 beta 8.0 beta or simply
 7.2.*

Skipjack is a Beta version of Red Hat Linux.  It is not specifically a
7.3 beta, nor is it an 8.0 beta.  It is simply a beta version.  In the
future, Red Hat may decide to do a new, non-beta release with a shorter
version number, but beta's are not officially tied to a future version
number.

Thanks.
Peter




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Re: glob'in the MANPATH (Was: Altering the MANPATH in RPM)

2002-04-29 Thread Riku Meskanen

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, James Olin Oden wrote:
  I was first thinking making these better configurable options,
  but the package does not use recent autoconfigure, so I simply
  made patches active by default. NOCONFIGD and NOGLOB can
  consequtively disable the features if not desired.
 
 I would think that that is something that the gnu man mainteners could
 get perfect if they want.  Also, if I understand you right NOCONFIGD and
 NOGLOB are config file directives, so that is easy enough for someone to
 turn off.  Also, its the kind of feature that unless you use it intentionally
 it won't be activated (i.e. no globbing will occur until a path contains
 a glob char).

No, actually NOCONFIGD and NOGLOB are c-preprosessor directives,
thus directives have meanin only at build time.

I don't think this is major drawback or is it? Should it really
be configurable by the man config file? Not that it would be hard
to add, but is there really need?

I'm basing my point to it's _the distributor_ that should
decide wether they like other packages touch the main config
or support config directory... if the distributor does not
compile in the support, then there is no use admin adding
that directive later to main config and if the distributor
has activated the support then if admin disables using the
directive then he breaks the other packages, right?

:-) riku

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Re: Altering the MANPATH in RPM

2002-04-29 Thread Thomas Dodd



James Olin Oden wrote:

- SNIP -

IMHO, best way I can think would be to enhance GNU man to
support include directory, like xinetd with /etc/xinetd.d,
logrotate with /etc/logrotate.d etc.

Thus patch it use /etc/man.config.d if it already doesn't
and contrib to project :)


I like the man.config.d idea, but I think gnu-man has a solution already 
in place.

In the man(1) page MANPATH_MAP and the NOAUTOPATH control the
automatic construction of MANPATH.

if NOAUTOPATH is not set in /etc/man.config then it can be autocreated.

so If PATH=/opt/foo/bin
man will auto search /opt/foo/man

I just tested this with man-1.5j-6 (in skipjack)
and /etc/man.config is the Red Hat default.

So the package needs to drop a file in /etc/profile.d
that sets the executable path to /opt/foo/bin
and man will aututomatically add /opt/foo/man
to the MANPATH. It will also look for /opt/foo/bin/man
if you don't want seperate bin and man dirs for each package.

I losty the exact layout you wanted to use, but I think these
options should do what you need.

-Thomas




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Re: Altering the MANPATH in RPM

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden

 
 
 
 James Olin Oden wrote:
 
 - SNIP -
 
 I like the man.config.d idea, but I think gnu-man has a solution already 
 in place.
 
 In the man(1) page MANPATH_MAP and the NOAUTOPATH control the
 automatic construction of MANPATH.

 if NOAUTOPATH is not set in /etc/man.config then it can be autocreated.
 
 so If PATH=/opt/foo/bin
 man will auto search /opt/foo/man
 
 I just tested this with man-1.5j-6 (in skipjack)
 and /etc/man.config is the Red Hat default.
 
 So the package needs to drop a file in /etc/profile.d
 that sets the executable path to /opt/foo/bin
 and man will aututomatically add /opt/foo/man
 to the MANPATH. It will also look for /opt/foo/bin/man
 if you don't want seperate bin and man dirs for each package.
 
 I losty the exact layout you wanted to use, but I think these
 options should do what you need.

Its very close, but if I understood MANPATH_MAP correctly it only 
works for directories you put in your path.  So this does not work
for man pages for libraries and such.  man.config.d solution solves this
problem.

Cheers...james 
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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

 Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that
 its customers really do need to plan these things.

And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business 
plan...

Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost every 1000 
downloads - I heard it un-officially form a very well known group who 
calculate those kind of stuff) I hardly see Red Hat make profit for the long 
run and it's a shame. I really would like to enjoy and to see Redhat 8.x 
etc...

Perhaps someone from Red Hat would think to do something like:

1. Upon release - do not release free ISO's - only sell boxes.
2. 30-45 days after the initial release - free ISO's will be offered. First 
for up2date customers and then to the public...

After all, making a new version of Red Hat does cost money, and a lot of it. 
Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the business)..

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RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor


 Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the
business)..

Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman.  I think that RedHat is
doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product.

Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then
charges more for supporting, many corporation's CFO's are starting to see
the value in RH.

Plus, they have to give it away... that's the double-edged sword that
GPL/opensource cutting.

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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic

People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to
updated rpms and isos.

--- Vladimir


Vladimir G. Ivanovichttp://leonora.org/~vladimir
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HBH == Hetz Ben Hamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

   Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that
   its customers really do need to plan these things.

  HBH And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about
  HBH their business plan...

  HBH Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost every
  HBH 1000 downloads - I heard it un-officially form a very well known
  HBH group who calculate those kind of stuff) I hardly see Red Hat
  HBH make profit for the long run and it's a shame. I really would
  HBH like to enjoy and to see Redhat 8.x etc...

  HBH Perhaps someone from Red Hat would think to do something like:

  HBH 1. Upon release - do not release free ISO's - only sell boxes.
  HBH 2. 30-45 days after the initial release - free ISO's will be
  HBHoffered. First  for up2date customers and then to the
  HBHpublic... 

  HBH After all, making a new version of Red Hat does cost money, and a
  HBH lot of it. Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I
  HBH was in the business)..



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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Hetz Ben Hamo

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 00:19, Trevor wrote:
  Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the

 business)..

 Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman.  I think that RedHat is
 doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product.

I wasn't a salesman (I suck at it) - I was a consultant person.

 Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then
 charges more for supporting, many corporation's CFO's are starting to see
 the value in RH.

Check your facts. Microsoft doesn't sell support and most of the time they 
don't give support. They leave this one for your ISV, your computer 
manufacturer, to your IT team, or to a consulting company.

 Plus, they have to give it away... that's the double-edged sword that
 GPL/opensource cutting.

I would suggest you take a look at a couple of previews articles of Linux 
weekly news (lwn.net) - those guys analyse Red Hat quater reports - Red Hat 
is still loosing money despite their claims of profitability, but of course - 
that really depends how you read the numbers.

Hetz



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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield

 
  Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the
 business)..
 
 Ahem... Maybe you weren't a very good salesman.  I think that RedHat is
 doing very well considering that they are giving away GPL product.
 
 Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then
 charges more for supporting, many corporation's CFO's are starting to see
 the value in RH.
 
 Plus, they have to give it away... that's the double-edged sword that
 GPL/opensource cutting.


GPL allows RH to charge a fee for supplying the product. It doesn't HAVE to give 
it away, though I could buy a set and run them off (like Cheapbytes) or mount 
them on my ftp server for all to download.

It can limit that by including non-free essential software (consider YaST from 
SuSE). Just how effective that would be is hard to guess - probably some band of 
helpful souls would create a replacement.

A shorter day may well work. It's nice to have a set of CDs, and at present I 
can download a fair bit before the distribution channels are up to speed. I'm 
much more likely to buy a boxed set if it's the fasted way to get it, and at 
present that's not so.

There's also a problem in the retail outlets - if they can download it once and 
run off copies to sell cheaply at twice the gross profit of a boxed set, there's 
bot a lot of point to them to push the boxed set.



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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield


[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 People also buy Red Hat Network entitlements that give them access to
 updated rpms and isos. 

I get updated packages without having to pay for them. Specifically I had the 
recent sudo update (from amirror) before I saw the announcement.

How much sooner would I have it via RHN?


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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread John Summerfield


  Considering the alternative (M$) who charges for the product and then
  charges more for supporting, many corporation's CFO's are starting to see
  the value in RH.
 
 Check your facts. Microsoft doesn't sell support and most of the time they 
 don't give support. They leave this one for your ISV, your computer 
 manufacturer, to your IT team, or to a consulting company.

MS doesn't sell support contracts, but it offers support in some senses of the 
word. At least, it does officially.

If you have a problem with MS software, it does accept details (along with 
details of your credit card).




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RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor

 Check your facts. Microsoft doesn't sell support and most of the
 time they
 don't give support. They leave this one for your ISV, your computer
 manufacturer, to your IT team, or to a consulting company.

Yes they do... for larger companies anyway.  For small businesses, Microsoft
doesn't waste their time with them.


 I would suggest you take a look at a couple of previews articles of Linux
 weekly news (lwn.net) - those guys analyse Red Hat quater reports
 - Red Hat
 is still loosing money despite their claims of profitability, but
 of course -
 that really depends how you read the numbers.

Of course it's how you read the numbers.  But everyone in the tech sector
(except security, maybe) are feeling the pinch right now.  Selling CD's is
not a huge part of RH's business model anyway.

And they HAVE TO RELEASE THEIR GPL code to the public.  Maybe if they
introduced some propietary stuff to the mix or release 2 different versions
of the software, like Smoothwall does... :-(


Trev.



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RE: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Trevor

 GPL allows RH to charge a fee for supplying the product. It
 doesn't HAVE to give
 it away, though I could buy a set and run them off (like
 Cheapbytes) or mount
 them on my ftp server for all to download.

It could charge a small fee for media costs [$2-$3/CD], but according to the
GNU GPL agreement, yes it does have to make the code available (and they
have been doing a great job of it so far).

RedHat is the best-known distro out there.  Companies know about it and they
assume that they are the best because of branding.  And that is great for
any company because when Large company x is shopping around for server
software they are going to think M$, Novell, RedHat Linux, UNIX.

That's because RH brands their software for corporate companies [read:
million dollar contracts].

Plus, by reputation, Linux hackers/users are the cheapest people in the
world.  Well maybe the BSD people are cheaper.  They will never be forced
into having to pay $70/copy. GRIN

Trev.



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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread James Olin Oden

 
  Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that
  its customers really do need to plan these things.
 
 And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business 
 plan...
 
 Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost every 1000 
 downloads - I heard it un-officially form a very well known group who 
 calculate those kind of stuff) I hardly see Red Hat make profit for the long 
 run and it's a shame. I really would like to enjoy and to see Redhat 8.x 
 etc...

As I read RedHat's business plan/strategy is not to sell ISO's, but services
and support.  Why do you think they protect their trademark's and 
name so strongly?  There are probably other reasons, but I believe it
is because they know that that strong trademark and name is associated
with a company that can show you how to deploy linux successfully in your
organization and once it is deployed to answer the the tough questions
when your staff has come to there wits end.  This expertease and commitement
to excelence is highly valued in businesses and organizations.  Whether
is substance behind the trademark is only to be seen when their services
are purchased, and it is the substance not the trademark that will make them
a great company (or if the substance lacks, will be their undoing).

Anyway, since their business plan is based on services centered around
linux, it makes _MUCH SENSE_ to deploy linux on as many systems as possible,
and their doing this for free is an investement with the goal of building 
the biggest market possible for these linux services.  There is more to
it, I am sure, but this is enough to understand why holding back the
ISO's and trying to really make their profits from media sells is a bad
idea at best.  This is all of course only my opinion based my observations
of watching RedHat from the outside (and also completely off topic of this
list (-;).

 Perhaps someone from Red Hat would think to do something like:
 
 1. Upon release - do not release free ISO's - only sell boxes.
 2. 30-45 days after the initial release - free ISO's will be offered. First 
 for up2date customers and then to the public...
 
 After all, making a new version of Red Hat does cost money, and a lot of it. 
 Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the business)..

Yes it does as any investment in a new market costs money, but I believe there
is at least a good possibility of the investement paying off in spades.

Cheers...james 
 Hetz
 
 
 
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Re: Is skipjack 7.3 beta

2002-04-29 Thread Guy Fraser

Skipjack is beta:

1) It is downloaded from beta.redhat.com
2) When installing, the messages Thank you for using RedHat beta software.
also verify this.

Guy


Kevin Waterson wrote:

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:23:34 +0300
Paul Dorneanu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

was that a question, or you had a revelation?
as the version says it is a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version


A question. Many seem of the opinion that skipjack is indeed a beta of 7.3
I was unaware it was a beta release. I was thinking it was, as you say,
simply a 7.2.92 and 7.2.93 version.

I see many items saying it is indeed a 7.3 beta such as
http://www.linuxwatch.org/article.php?sid=82mode=threadorder=0thold=0
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5999
http://www.lugatgt.org/installfest13/dist.php

I have seen no official release saying it is 7.3 beta 8.0 beta or simply
7.2.*

Just trying to muddly through the dis-information
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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Guy Fraser

John Summerfield wrote:

--- Jure Pecar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

is there any ETA of the next release of RedHat? I
know that 'when it's
ready' is the best answer...

If you knew that was the best answer you were going to
get, then why ask?



Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that its 
customers really do need to plan these things.


Look now, would you rather RedHat gives a launch date that can't be met 
without
performing all quality checks like Microsoft is notorious for.

Plan for what is avilable now, not what might be avialable tomorrow.

Currently Enima is a good stable product, if you want some of the newer 
features
use the beta skipjack. If you want to slide down the bleading edge you 
can also try
Rawhide.

Until the next stable release is availabe you don't even know what is 
features will
be. How can you plan for unknown features?

Besides how many of you, whiners even buy the boxed sets to support 
development?

I have paid for every version since I started using RedHat 4.0 and from 
my experience
it is better to wait for a good stable package than to rush an 
unpolished buggy release
like Mircosoft does, and usualy they are even released late and features 
droped at the
last moment.

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Re: next release

2002-04-29 Thread Leonid Mamtchenkov

Dear Hetz Ben Hamo,

Once you wrote about Re: next release:
HBH  Presumably he's one who hopes that Red Hat will eventually understand that
HBH  its customers really do need to plan these things.
HBH 
HBH And I would hope that maybe Red Hat will finally think about their business 
HBH plan...

I am sure they did so :)

HBH Some how - with a ratio of 1000:10 (10 purchases for almost every 1000 
HBH downloads - I heard it un-officially form a very well known group who 
HBH calculate those kind of stuff) I hardly see Red Hat make profit for the long 
HBH run and it's a shame. I really would like to enjoy and to see Redhat 8.x 
HBH etc...

Yeah, well, I am not asking my boss to buy something until I download
and play with it :)
CD selling is not RedHat's main business too, as was mentioned here.  On
the contrary, I suggest you look more at support services, consulting,
certification and training and the like.

HBH Perhaps someone from Red Hat would think to do something like:
HBH 
HBH 1. Upon release - do not release free ISO's - only sell boxes.
HBH 2. 30-45 days after the initial release - free ISO's will be offered. First 
HBH for up2date customers and then to the public...
HBH 
HBH After all, making a new version of Red Hat does cost money, and a lot of it. 
HBH Support contracts are not that profitable (I know, I was in the business)..

1. They will definitely have GPL-related issues in this case.
2. As far as I know, RedHat uses the community as the main development
force.

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Re: pthread_mutexattr_setpshared? Alternatives?

2002-04-29 Thread Yuval Kfir

Sorry for following up on my own post, but since I got no response I'm
compelled to ask: is this the wrong list for such questions?  If it is,
what's the right one?

On Thursday 25-Apr, I wrote:
 Hello,
 is there a way to create process-shared mutexes in Red Hat Linux 7.* ?
 Currently, calling pthread_mutexattr_setpshared with PTHREAD_PROCESS_SHARED 
 gives me ENOSYS.  Is this going to change anytime soon?
 Is there *any* implementation for process-shared synchronization objects in
 the Linux kernel?
 Please CC me if responding to the list, as I'm on digest mode.
 Thanks!
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Mount ext partition into user dir with user permissions

2002-04-29 Thread Peter Kiem

Tried to do something which I thought would be really simple, mount a 
partition into a user's dir to be owned by that user.

e.g. mount /dev/hdb1 /home/user/data

where /home/user/data is an empty directory owned by user.user

No matter what I do when the partition is mounted it is always owned as 
root.root and user doesn't have any permissions to it.

I've tried combinations of parameters in fstab like owner and user but 
nothing seems to work.

Anyone got any hints please?

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Re: newserver help please

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 21:14 28 Apr 2002, karthikeyan nagalingam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| Can u help me to solve the following,
| 
| 1.  # ctlinnd  newgroup domex.newsgroup
|  error:
|  No innd.pid file; did server die?
|  can't send newgroup command (sendto
| failure) No
|   such file or directory
|   
| waiting for your favourable reply,

So, is innd running?

ps ax | grep innd

Is innd configured to start?

chkconfig --list | grep innd

Cheers,
-- 
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Win3.1, MSDOS and Win95 will not recognise FAT32[...]. MS's plans for
supporting FAT32 in NT are still being determined[...] At minimum, MS
will provide a utility to convert FAT32 to NTFS.
- MS introduce yet another incompatible and unsupported-on-
  other-platforms data format with Win97, from May 1996's
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Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file

2002-04-29 Thread Ashwin Khandare

I somewhat didnt completely follow ur answer.

Is that u have all your aliases stored in mysql table which u then populate
in /etc/aliases  maybe by some shell scripts ?


- Original Message -
From: Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file


 On 09:07 26 Apr 2002, Leonardo Rodrigues Magalh?es
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  On 08:30 26 Apr 2002, Pieter De Wit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  | I know this might be kinda off topic, but since everyone here is in
the
 |  | field, I thought I would pop the question here.
 |  | How well does sendmail handle a *big* alias file (around 2
entries)
 | ? Is
 |  | there another way to handle such big alias requirements ?
 |  Keeps it in a dbm file. We have over 4 aliases at work; works just
 | fine.
 | I'd strongly suggest that you try postfix+MySQL, so you can have all
 | your aliases ( and accounts if you want as well ) as MySQL tables.

 Bleah. No, instead I keep a structured representation of our staff
 groupings and mailing lists and permission groups in MySQL tables
 and compute the entire alias table from that. Much cleaner and more
 effective. You can all sorts of handy utility aliases in this fashion
 (eg the script inverts the home directories and makes aliases for users
 whose homedirs are on server X, etc).
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Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file

2002-04-29 Thread Ashwin Khandare

We entered lot of aliases in /etc/aliases then we ran newaliases and then it
truncated the file to whatever aliases it could handle
but not all that was entered.

- Original Message -
From: Eric Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file


 Ashwin,
 Are you saying that the  newaliases command doesn't work after editing
the
 /etc/aliases file?  Or that work and sendmail ignores some alias lines?
Can
 you be more specific on your problem?

 -eric
 - Original Message -
 From: Ashwin Khandare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Can u please elaborate on the solution u have offered.
  I myself also has been facing the same problem.

   | How well does sendmail handle a *big* alias file (around 2
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configuring cisco router

2002-04-29 Thread Jeremiah RS


I'm still new using Red hat 7.2, and I want to use it to configure my
cisco router for the 1st time. It is connected to my pc in port serial
(com 2)

Please do not hesitate to tell me the detail instruction.
thank you verymuch

regards,

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Cygwin

2002-04-29 Thread Linux

Hi

I have been running Cygwin successfully on my RH7.1 box for a long time.
Recently I upgraded the 7.1 box to 7.2. Although  Cygwin can get a login
prompt I cannot get it to run Gnome. I can run Gnome on an NCD300 terminal
and xwin32 trial version both work real well. What am I doing wrong with
Cygwin?


Many Thanks

Mike


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RE: oops can't execute commands

2002-04-29 Thread Brian

Did you re-compile you kernel? Or update it with a new one

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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:08 AM
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Subject: oops can't execute commands

This just happened.

when I login to my RH7.2 box I get the following.
any clues?


Last login: Mon Apr 29 21:42:31 2002
bash: dircolors: command not found
bash: grep: command not found
bash: cut: command not found
bash: cut: command not found
bash: id: command not found
bash: id: command not found
bash: id: command not found
[: too many arguments
bash: tput: command not found
bash: tput: command not found
bash: wc: command not found
[: : integer expression expected
[root@lennie root]# ls
bash: ls: command not found
[root@lennie root]#


Many Thanks

Mike


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Re: configuring cisco router

2002-04-29 Thread Almond Wong

Use minicom to connect the console port. Set port to ttyS1
(com2), 8N1, then use the usual console command.
If you have time, use can setup the tftp client/server for configuration
file upload/download. 
At 03:01 PM 02/04/29 +0700, you wrote:
I'm still new using Red hat 7.2,
and I want to use it to configure my
cisco router for the 1st time. It is connected to my pc in port
serial
(com 2)
Please do not hesitate to tell me the detail instruction.
thank you verymuch
regards,
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GForce4

2002-04-29 Thread Gary Stainburn

Hi all,

I maybe looking at a GForce 4MX 440 card (either XFX or MSI) from CCL soon, 
but seem to remember somewhere that X has a problem with them.

Anyone got any experience/advice on the subject?

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RE: oops can't execute commands

2002-04-29 Thread Linux

No I did not update the kernel

I have found out that xinetd services are not starting as below

Many thanks
Mike

Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amanda disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amandaidx disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amidxtape disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: chargen disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: chargen disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: daytime disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: daytime disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: echo disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: echo disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: finger disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: imap disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: imaps disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop2 disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop3 disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: ntalk disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop3s disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: exec disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: login disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: shell disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: rsync disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: talk disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: telnet disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: time disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: time disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:31 lennie xinetd[906]: xinetd Version 2.3.3 started with
libwrap options compiled in.


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Re: sgi_fam libwrap from 0.0.0.0

2002-04-29 Thread Eric Wood

This is a know xinetd bug.   They're working on it.
-eric wood

- Original Message - 
 I continously get the following line in /var/log/messages
 and the logwatch file
 
 xinet[256] FAIL: sgi_fam libwrap from 0.0.0.0
 
 Does anyone know how to avoid these messages (what file
 should I modify)?
 
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Re: RedHat Versions

2002-04-29 Thread Rupesh

I was reading through this thread, on doing the 
following i noticed something strange:

# cat /etc/redhat-release
Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma)

# rpm -qi redhat-release
Name: redhat-release  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 7.2 Vendor: Red Hat, Inc.

***BUT***

# dmesg | more  (first two lines states)

Linux version 2.4.7-10 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
2.96
2731 (Red Hat Linux 7.1 2.96-98)) #1 Thu Sep 6 17:27:27 EDT 2001

Why the difference in dmesg  here it states RH Linux 7.1?

-Rupesh

Thus spoke Ryan Speed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 rpm -qi redhat-release
 
 :-Original Message-
 :
 :How can I tell what version I am running on a Redhat server.  
 :I know how to 
 :get the Kernel version, but don't know how to find out if it 
 :is Redhat 6.1, 
 :6.2, 7.1, etc.
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Re: Internal Web Server

2002-04-29 Thread ramakrishna

hello,
 the best way under your cirucmstances of reducing hacking
would be to put both- the web server and the mail server on the
DMZ zone which would be the safest way to safegaurd both your 
internal network and the servers which are on de-militarized zone
.you can go through some of the sample DMZ firewall scripts to 
understand how to set up one.(just google search) 

* Raoul Anderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 Can anybody help me out with the following, including
 advice on best practices if possible to reduce risk of
 hacking?  I have an ADSL connection that is running on
 my RH 7.2 box with IPTables firewall.  I would like to
 be able to make my web server and mail server on the
 internal network available to the outside world.  Ths
 ADSL has a dynamic IP address, which I am going to set
 up an account with a Dynamic DNS server once I get
 this working.
 
 Thanks in advance for any help/advice anyone can give
 me.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Raoul
 
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Re: Sendmail loooooong pause on boot

2002-04-29 Thread dbrett

It is also possible to add to the host file

127.0.0.1   localhost   'computer name'

On 25 Apr 2002, gregory mott wrote:

 iirc (no guarantee here), sendmail spends a long time timing out if any
 of your network interface addresses do not properly reverse-resolve to
 names.  i had the problem and found the solution after pouring through
 /usr/share/doc/sendmail-whatever.
 
 in your case if you put your name in /etc/hosts, but your address is
 coming from dhcp, sounds like they won't properly be a match.
 
 Rob Yale wrote:
  Hi,
   
  When I finally got X Windows running for the first time, I was getting
  an error about the host name that my dhcp server was providing being
  unknown.  Furthermore the error suggested that this might cause internet
  problems.  As suggested, I put the hostname in the /etc/hosts file, and
  Gnome boots up flawlessly now. 
   
  Unfortunately a new side effect has begun happening; sendmail takes
  forever to give me the '[OK]' on bootup.
   
  Any suggestions?
   
  Rob Yale
 
 
 
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Re: Camcorder to Digital formatr

2002-04-29 Thread Edward Marczak

On 4/25/02 3:59 PM, Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed the keys
forming the message:

 If you are going to be making several copies from an edit, keeping it on the
 computer to make dubs is better than wearing out the tape and the deck.
 But once all of the dubs are made, and a copy or two has been made for
 master storage, it needs to be removed from the disc so that the next project
 can be worked on.

Right.  If you do this professionally, you've no doubt seen Avid drive
shuttles (the contents of which are usually dumped back to tape and reused
after a project anyway).  CD-R is the poor-man's version of this.

 Maybe the original poster needs to respond and clarify the exact useage,
 i.e., editing or long term storage.  Long term storage of raw DV on disc
 is not just not currently viable.  Get me a 100 Terabyte removable disc
 for $200 bucks and you've got a deal for long term storage :-)  At 2GB
 for 9:20, it would store about 332 DAYS worth of video :-) :-)

or make one hell of a Quake server!
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Re: Camcorder to Digital formatr

2002-04-29 Thread Edward Marczak

On 4/26/02 2:24 AM, Hanny Tidore [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed the keys
forming the message:

 Hi,
 
 Just to clarify:
 My machine:
 AMD 1.2G
 HD 40GB
 RAM 256MB
 Redhat 7.2
 
 I'd like to edit movie from Camcorder. At the end of
 the day, after editing the movies, I would like to
 store the movies in CDR (mpeg format).

Now we're talking.  I agree with Vidiot on this one: the drive space is
going to cramp you at some point.  Also, depending on the compression you
use (MPEG-2, cinepak, etc.) you'll need a fast, dedicated drive just for
video.  Consider SCSI.  Or at least a separate IDE channel for that
dedicated drive.

Not necessarily recommending this for home use, but I just started setting
up a small fibre channel SAN between two machines.  It's not as tough as the
vendors will have you believe (because they want to sell you consulting time
as well).

All said and done, your setup is perfect to start with.  If you find a
bottleneck, that's when you'll want to look into upgrades.  Enjoy!
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SSH passwordless login to remote machine ?

2002-04-29 Thread pk

Hello,

I'm trying to setup ssh on a machine behind  my firewall so it
will allow me to login from another machine behind the firewall
without entering a password.

Here's what I've done so far (amongst other things that didnt' work ;)

1.  Ran ssh-keygen -t rsa on the client machine (also tried  -t RSA1).
I used an empty passphrase.

2.  Copied /home/lanuser/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to the remote machine as 
/home/lanuser/.ssh/authorized-keys (also tried with identity.pub for RSA1)

3.  From the cient machine I ran ssh -v -v remotehost

4.  Below is what I got, along with a prompt for a password :(

/*** Further below this is the remote computer's sshd_config 
 It has RH7.2 installed with openssh-3.1p1-2  ***/

debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
debug1: Host 'remotehost' is known and matches the RSA host key.
debug1: Found key in /home/lanuser/.ssh/known_hosts:1
debug1: bits set: 505/1024
debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
debug1: kex_derive_keys
debug1: newkeys: mode 1
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
debug1: waiting for SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
debug1: newkeys: mode 0
debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
debug1: done: ssh_kex2.
debug1: send SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST
debug1: service_accept: ssh-userauth
debug1: got SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug1: next auth method to try is publickey
debug1: try privkey: /home/lanuser/.ssh/identity
debug1: try pubkey: /home/lanuser/.ssh/id_rsa
debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug1: try privkey: /home/lanuser/.ssh/id_dsa
debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
debug1: next auth method to try is keyboard-interactive
debug2: userauth_kbdint
debug2: we sent a keyboard-interactive packet, wait for reply
debug1: authentications that can continue: publickey,password,keyboard-interactive
debug2: we did not send a packet, disable method
debug1: next auth method to try is password
lanuser@remotehost's password: 

-- Here is the sshd_config file from the remotehost --

#   $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.48 2002/02/19 02:50:59 deraadt Exp $
# This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file.  See sshd(8)
# for more information.
# This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin
# The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with
# OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where
# possible, but leave them commented.  Uncommented options change a
# default value.

#Port 22
#Protocol 2,1
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
#ListenAddress ::

# HostKey for protocol version 1
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key

# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
#KeyRegenerationInterval 3600
#ServerKeyBits 768

# Logging
#obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging
#SyslogFacility AUTH
SyslogFacility AUTHPRIV
#LogLevel INFO

# Authentication:

#LoginGraceTime 600
PermitRootLogin no
#StrictModes yes

#RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys

# rhosts authentication should not be used
#RhostsAuthentication yes
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
#IgnoreRhosts no
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
#RhostsRSAAuthentication yes
# similar for protocol version 2
#HostbasedAuthentication yes
# Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for
# RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts no

# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
#PasswordAuthentication yes
#PermitEmptyPasswords no

# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes

# Kerberos options
# KerberosAuthentication automatically enabled if keyfile exists
#KerberosAuthentication yes
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes

# AFSTokenPassing automatically enabled if k_hasafs() is true
#AFSTokenPassing yes

# Kerberos TGT Passing only works with the AFS kaserver
#KerberosTgtPassing no

# Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM keyboard-interactive authentication 
# Warning: enabling this may bypass the setting of 'PasswordAuthentication'
#PAMAuthenticationViaKbdInt yes

#X11Forwarding no
#X11Forwarding yes
#X11DisplayOffset 10
#X11UseLocalhost no
#PrintMotd yes
#PrintLastLog yes
#KeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no

#MaxStartups 10
# no default banner path
Banner /etc/issue.ssh
#VerifyReverseMapping no

# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server

-

If anyone could lend me some advice or lead me in the right direction I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks much,

Patrick Kirchner.



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Mount/dd/tar problem

2002-04-29 Thread Ashweeni Kumar Beeharee

hi all 

i've got these related problems

on one machine - RH 7.1, Kernel 2.4.9-31, with 
all the latest updates(from rhn) the first mount 
on my internal zip drive fails (have to kill process 
to stop it). and all subsequent mounts on that same 
zip works. tried with other zip disks, same problem.

on another machine - RH 7.2, with all latest updates 
the first tar/dd on the seagate hornet 20 ATAPI drive
fails (after a reboot). but all subsequent ones work.

so i thought that maybe it's the modules. since they 
are loaded when device is accessed. so i loaded the
modules before accessing them (after reboot)
by doing 
depmod -a
insmod ide-tape (or modprobe ide-tape) i did both

and still it fails. 

is autofs the culprit here? please help 
this is driving me mad.

regards

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nscd

2002-04-29 Thread angelaoyu

Hi all

What is the function of nscd

Stopping Name Switch Cache Daemon: nscd

Thank you



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pppd won't go idle

2002-04-29 Thread gregory mott

pppd won't ever hangup, unless i set the idle timer under 30 seconds,
because earthlink is sending some broadcast packet every 30 seconds.  i
want to set the idle timer more like 5 minutes.

how can i tell pppd to ignore those packets?  or will a different dialer
program do better?

here's those packets (as logged by iptables) (what are they for, anyway?):
Apr 28 21:50:30 ruby kernel: ipdrop(224 broadcast)IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= 
SRC=209.244.189.82 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=46444 PROTO=2 
Apr 28 21:51:00 ruby kernel: ipdrop(224 broadcast)IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= 
SRC=209.244.189.82 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=7278 PROTO=2 
Apr 28 21:51:30 ruby kernel: ipdrop(224 broadcast)IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= 
SRC=209.244.189.82 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=23407 PROTO=2 
Apr 28 21:52:00 ruby kernel: ipdrop(224 broadcast)IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= 
SRC=209.244.189.82 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=28 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=1 ID=42352 PROTO=2




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newserver help please

2002-04-29 Thread karthikeyan nagalingam

hi,
while system bootup 
Starting INND:[ok]

after the system ready, if i check the service

#service innd status
result:
innd dead but subsys locked

#ps aux | grep innd
the innd service in not started 

please help me, how to keep the innd in running state

thanks in advance,

karthikeyan.N


--- Cameron Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 21:14 28 Apr 2002, karthikeyan nagalingam
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | Can u help me to solve the following,
 | 
 | 1.  # ctlinnd  newgroup domex.newsgroup
 |  error:
 |  No innd.pid file; did server die?
 |  can't send newgroup command (sendto
 | failure) No
 |   such file or directory
 |   
 | waiting for your favourable reply,
 
 So, is innd running?
 
  ps ax | grep innd
 
 Is innd configured to start?
 
  chkconfig --list | grep innd
 
 Cheers,
 -- 
 Cameron Simpson, DoD#743[EMAIL PROTECTED]   
 http://www.zip.com.au/~cs/
 
 Win3.1, MSDOS and Win95 will not recognise
 FAT32[...]. MS's plans for
 supporting FAT32 in NT are still being
 determined[...] At minimum, MS
 will provide a utility to convert FAT32 to NTFS.
  - MS introduce yet another incompatible and
 unsupported-on-
other-platforms data format with Win97, from May
 1996's
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pr/fat32.htm,
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Walmart x86 pc and Linux test

2002-04-29 Thread Sentinel Sentinel

This was a great article.  Check it out

 http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/04/29/0218241


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RE: Mass User Import

2002-04-29 Thread Glenn Goodspeed
Title: RE: Mass User Import





Tony - Thanks for the tip. I also received (on another list, courtesy of Thomas Chung) a script that has the advantage of creating the users' home directories without specifying them in the new user file. For a file of new users called students, with usernames in the first column and passwords in the second column:

#!/bin/sh


for i in $(awk '{print $1}' students)
do
useradd $i
grep $i students |awk'{print $2}'| passwd --stdin $i
done


-Glenn


-Original Message-
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Mass User Import



man newusers:





Re: drastically varying transfer rates between windows and linux

2002-04-29 Thread Javier Gostling

Gordon Messmer wrote:

 It would only fix half of the problem, if it were possible to do so.
 (If his provider requires DHCP, it might later lead to ip conflicts)
 Giving his machines numbers on the same network would still leave open
 the possibility that his cable modem is broadcasting traffic over the
 cable network, leading to congestion and security exposure.

Not just a possibility, but with a hub it's for certain. Any packets coming
from one of his machines will be repeated to every port in the hub, including
the cable modem, which acts as a bridge, therefore copying every packet to
the RFC segment. Luckily, only the upstream channel will be affected by this,
and only broadcast traffic would make it back to the downstream channel.
Finnaly, a correctly configured cable ISP should have the cable modems get a
config that blocks broadcasts packets and this problem would not be an issue.

Regards,

--
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Ingeniero de Sistemas
Virtualia S.A.
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Named error

2002-04-29 Thread Robert Bleumer
Title: RE: Mass User Import



When I start named -g, it gives me an error that it 
can't open /var/run/named/named.pid
I tried creating the file with touch, but that didn't 
solve it.
Why is this, and how do I fix 
it.


Re: Named error

2002-04-29 Thread dbrett

Hi Robert

Check the permissions of the directory.  It sounds like the user named is
running under (probably named) does not have permission to create the file

david

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Robert Bleumer wrote:

 When I start named -g, it gives me an error that it can't open
 /var/run/named/named.pid
 
 I tried creating the file with touch, but that didn't solve it.
 
 Why is this, and how do I fix it.
 
 



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Re: how do I use ISO images like CDs?

2002-04-29 Thread Sentinel Sentinel

mount -o loop /path_to_iso/isofile.iso /mnt_point

I've been surprised it works.  Didn't pay much attention until about a week or so ago 
:-)

GL





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 Hi...
   are There some ways to use a image ISO like a CD? I mean... I
 have a ISO
 image in my hard disk, how do I mount the image like a file
 system iso9660?
   if you don't understan me, plese ask me; because I need this infomation

 thanks,
 bye
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Re: Camcorder to Digital formatr

2002-04-29 Thread Edward Marczak

On 4/26/02 3:38 AM, Vidiot [EMAIL PROTECTED] pressed the keys
forming the message:

 Just to clarify:
 My machine:
 AMD 1.2G
 HD 40GB
 RAM 256MB
 Redhat 7.2
 
 I'd like to edit movie from Camcorder. At the end of
 the day, after editing the movies, I would like to
 store the movies in CDR (mpeg format).
 
 Thanks for the help.
 -=Hanny
 
 It would have been nice if you would have said this in the first place.
 
 While video editing under Linux is getting there, it isn't fully there yet.
 As first mentioned, join the Video4Linux mail list and join that discussion.
 
 You will need another hard drive added to the system.  At least a 100GB
 for holding all the video segments for doing your editing.
 
 I certainly hope that you do not plan on destroying the original DV recordings
 and only keeping the VideoCD versions.  That would be a sin, since the VideoCD
 versions are vastly inferior to the DV you just shot.

CD-R does not equal VCD.  He mentioned MPEG on CD-R, which, depending on the
version of MPEG, bitrate, etc., could be better (or worse) than VCD.  On
average, you can comfortably fit 10-15 minutes of DVD quality (yes, an
abused term) video on a standard CD-R.  Depending on your bitrate, you could
fit more.

And, yes, with DVD-R becoming more affordable, it is a viable option for
removable, high-quality video storage.
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Re: SSH passwordless login to remote machine ?

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Fri, 26 Apr 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to setup ssh on a machine behind  my firewall so it
 will allow me to login from another machine behind the firewall
 without entering a password.
 
 Here's what I've done so far (amongst other things that didnt' work ;)
 
 1.  Ran ssh-keygen -t rsa on the client machine (also tried  -t RSA1).
 I used an empty passphrase.
 
 2.  Copied /home/lanuser/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to the remote machine as 
 /home/lanuser/.ssh/authorized-keys (also tried with identity.pub for RSA1)

 Unless that's a typo, it needs to be authorized_keys.

 You might also want to try authorized_keys2 or id_rsa.pub on the
remote system.

 Finally, check the permissions.  They should look something like:

[bill@togepi bill]$ ls -ld .ssh
drwxr-xr-x2 bill bill 4096 Apr  2 02:18 .ssh
[bill@togepi bill]$ ls -l .ssh
total 8
-rw-r--r--1 bill bill 1229 Apr  2 02:15 authorized_keys
-rw-r--r--1 bill bill 1011 Apr  2 02:11 known_hosts




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Re: Howto remove gcc-2.96-98

2002-04-29 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød

Kjetil Tjensvold [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 How do I completely remove gcc-2.96-98 from my rh 7.2
 system.I want to install gcc-3.0.4 due to compile
 MPlayer.As known this program will not compile with
 gcc-2.96-98 compiler. I dont want any files containing
 the old version number hang around. I want it
 completely removed. I have tried to force an
 installation of gcc-3.04 but failed due to
 dependencies to cpp-2.96-98 and kernel 2.4.7-10. But I
 dont use that kernel version. I use 2.4.18.

mplayer should compile fine - they fixed their bug to make it work
with gcc 3.0.x. 
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RE: IPchains logging?

2002-04-29 Thread Sentinel Sentinel

Not sure if this has been answered yet.  To log in real time what is going on with 
ipchains simply add a --log to each and every rule you want logged.

Make sure to restart ipchains after making the change to your rules.  Then do a tail 
-f /var/log/messages.  Tail will actively show what is going on at the bottom of this 
log file.  Any packets rejected by your ipchains rules will pop up in the log file.

Works Great!


---
Make sure that in your syslog.conf file that your ipchains is logging to
/var/log/messages.  I'm not to familiar with ipchains but most
applications have configuration files in which one can change the
logging of the application.  If you find that ipchains is logging to
local7 per say make sure your syslog is setup to accept this logging.  

Once you know what file ipchains logs I would write a little startup
script that does the following:

Tail -f /var/messages | mail -s subject you@youremailaddress

This will mail some address with everything coming across you firewall.

-Chris

 -Original Message-
 From: BG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 12:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: IPchains logging?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 I ran the tail command, but all I get is a blank screen, even 
 when accessing the machine remotely.  Is there something wrong?
 
 TIA,
 Bill
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Cunning
  Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:08 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: IPchains logging?
 
 
  On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, BG wrote:
 
   My firewall currently uses ipchains.  I would like to log
  or possibly
   monitor in real time what is being accepted and rejected.
  How can I do
   that?
 
  Assuming you already have the rules you want logged defined in your 
  ipchains, the command tail -f /var/log/messages | grep 
 'Packet log:' 
  will continuously run and display only lines logged by 
 ipchains filter 
  rules.  Enter ^C when you've seen enough.
 
  Jim


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Re: GForce4

2002-04-29 Thread Kirk

Geforce4 works great, get the driver RPMS from NVidia.
Check NVidia Readme first.
Kirk


At 12:41 PM 4/29/2002 +0100, you wrote:
Hi all,

I maybe looking at a GForce 4MX 440 card (either XFX or MSI) from CCL soon, 
but seem to remember somewhere that X has a problem with them.

Anyone got any experience/advice on the subject?

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Re: SSH passwordless login to remote machine ?

2002-04-29 Thread David Talkington

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Bill Crawford wrote:

 2.  Copied /home/lanuser/.ssh/id_rsa.pub to the remote machine as 
 /home/lanuser/.ssh/authorized-keys (also tried with identity.pub for RSA1)

 Unless that's a typo, it needs to be authorized_keys.

 You might also want to try authorized_keys2 or id_rsa.pub on the
remote system.

Just a note here, for gentle readers who might not be aware of it, that 
OpenSSH is phasing out authorized_keys2.  Support for that filename is 
slated to become read-only in a future release, and eventually go away 
in favor of authorized_keys.  Currently, this is configurable in 
sshd_config.

Cheers ... -d

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Which is first alias or virtusertable

2002-04-29 Thread Pieter De Wit

Hello Everyone,

Under sendmail which one gets done first, alias or virtusertable ?

Thanks,

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Re: SSH passwordless login to remote machine ?

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, David Talkington wrote:

 Just a note here, for gentle readers who might not be aware of it, that 
 OpenSSH is phasing out authorized_keys2.  Support for that filename is 
 slated to become read-only in a future release, and eventually go away 
 in favor of authorized_keys.  Currently, this is configurable in 
 sshd_config.

 Including me ... thanks for the heads-up.  Don't know how I missed
that, though I had discovered I could use dsa keys in authorized_keys
as well as authorized_keys2.

 D'oh!

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how to make printer keep jobs

2002-04-29 Thread hanfamily

Hi all,
With RH 6.2 if you sent a job to the printer in the midle
of the night it would print when the printer was turned on
in the morning. However with RH7.2 the jobs have to be resent
to the printer. How do I convince the lprng to keep jobs until
they print?
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photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Chris Mason

I have just got my sddr-31 USB drive working on my laptop so I can transfer
images to my Redhat 7.1 ;aptop in the feild while shooting from my sandisk
96MB card. I often need to store more than the camera can hold and need to
review what I have shot.
On windows I use ThumbsPlus for image viewing as I can see thumbnails of all
the images on the disk, is there a Linux equivelent, can anyone recommend a
viewer that shows the whole directory?

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Re: SSH passwordless login to remote machine ?

2002-04-29 Thread Bret Hughes

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 13:08, Bill Crawford wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, David Talkington wrote:
 
  Just a note here, for gentle readers who might not be aware of it, that 
  OpenSSH is phasing out authorized_keys2.  Support for that filename is 
  slated to become read-only in a future release, and eventually go away 
  in favor of authorized_keys.  Currently, this is configurable in 
  sshd_config.
 
  Including me ... thanks for the heads-up.  Don't know how I missed
 that, though I had discovered I could use dsa keys in authorized_keys
 as well as authorized_keys2.

Me too. I had no idea that it was to be deprecated.  I swithc next time
we change keys.

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sendmail blows up under skipjack

2002-04-29 Thread daniel

hello all
i'm running skipjack on one of my boxes and for some reason, sendmail is
blowing up during system boot and every time i try to invoke it from the
shell to send an email.  here's the error it's giving me:


/usr/sbin/sendmail: error while loading shared libraries: libdb-3.2.so:
cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


what's that mean?
i've already run up2date -uf
and it's telling me that everything's good
any suggestions as to how i might fix this?

_
daniel a. g. quinn
starving programmer

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Re: photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Chris Mason wrote:

 I have just got my sddr-31 USB drive working on my laptop so I can transfer
 images to my Redhat 7.1 ;aptop in the feild while shooting from my sandisk
 96MB card. I often need to store more than the camera can hold and need to
 review what I have shot.
 On windows I use ThumbsPlus for image viewing as I can see thumbnails of all
 the images on the disk, is there a Linux equivelent, can anyone recommend a
 viewer that shows the whole directory?

 Either gqview or kview; the latter seems to take forever to load up
a large directory, whereas gqview will give you the listing quickly
but takes a while to generate a few thousand thumbnails if you enable
them :o)

 Seriously, gqview seems to be the best I've found so far; it will do
slideshow, fullscreen mode, etc. and has sensible keyboard shortcuts
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Re: photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Bill Crawford wrote:

  Either gqview or kview; the latter seems to take forever to load up
 a large directory, whereas gqview will give you the listing quickly
 but takes a while to generate a few thousand thumbnails if you enable
 them :o)

 Thinking about it, I don't think 7.1 shipped with gqview, but I'm
ready to be proven wrong (or right :o)




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Re: What is the command to view all 65536 ports?

2002-04-29 Thread Will Francis

 What is the command to view all 65536 ports by name?

The best you will do on your local computer is

cat /etc/services

which will show you a subset of the 
official ones as defined by IANA.

http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers

If, you mean by view see what's running on your computer,
you're probably looking for a command like

lsof -i





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Re: What is the command to view all 65536 ports?

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 14:41 29 Apr 2002, Will Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  What is the command to view all 65536 ports by name?
[...]
| If, you mean by view see what's running on your computer,
| you're probably looking for a command like
| lsof -i

Or netstat -a.
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oops can't execute commands

2002-04-29 Thread Linux

No I did not update the kernel

I have found out that xinetd services are not starting as below

I cannot execute any commands from the command prompt
Any clues?

Many thanks
Mike

Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amanda disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amandaidx disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amidxtape disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: chargen disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: chargen disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: daytime disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: daytime disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: echo disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: echo disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: finger disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: imap disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: imaps disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop2 disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop3 disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: ntalk disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: pop3s disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: exec disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: login disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: shell disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: rsync disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: talk disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: telnet disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: time disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: time disabled, removing
Apr 29 21:39:31 lennie xinetd[906]: xinetd Version 2.3.3 started with
libwrap options compiled in.


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Re: photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 14:57 29 Apr 2002, Chris Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I have just got my sddr-31 USB drive working on my laptop so I can transfer
| images to my Redhat 7.1 ;aptop in the feild while shooting from my sandisk
| 96MB card. I often need to store more than the camera can hold and need to
| review what I have shot.
| On windows I use ThumbsPlus for image viewing as I can see thumbnails of all
| the images on the disk, is there a Linux equivelent, can anyone recommend a
| viewer that shows the whole directory?

I'm very fond of xv (doesn't ship with redhat - it's shareware).  But if
you fetch it and install it, type ^V in the image window and then ^U in
the schauser window the ^V brings up.
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Re: photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Anthony E. Greene

On 29-Apr-2002/21:58 +0100, Bill Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Bill Crawford wrote:

  Either gqview or kview; the latter seems to take forever to load up
 a large directory, whereas gqview will give you the listing quickly
 but takes a while to generate a few thousand thumbnails if you enable
 them :o)

 Thinking about it, I don't think 7.1 shipped with gqview, but I'm
ready to be proven wrong (or right :o)

RH6.2 shipped with gqview.


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Re: oops can't execute commands

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 22:56 29 Apr 2002, Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| No I did not update the kernel
| I have found out that xinetd services are not starting as below
| 
| Many thanks
| Mike
| 
| Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amanda disabled, removing
| Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amandaidx disabled, removing
[...]

I'd guess you remove execute permission from all your files. That would
cause this behaviour. Boot up a RedHat install disc in rescue mode and
have a look around.
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Re: photo viewer

2002-04-29 Thread Bill Crawford

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Anthony E. Greene wrote:

 On 29-Apr-2002/21:58 +0100, Bill Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Bill Crawford wrote:
 
   Either gqview or kview; the latter seems to take forever to load up
  a large directory, whereas gqview will give you the listing quickly
  but takes a while to generate a few thousand thumbnails if you enable
  them :o)
 
  Thinking about it, I don't think 7.1 shipped with gqview, but I'm
 ready to be proven wrong (or right :o)
 
 RH6.2 shipped with gqview.

 Ah ... I only discovered it recently.

 I stand by my recommendation, then.




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Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 13:29 29 Apr 2002, Ashwin Khandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| We entered lot of aliases in /etc/aliases then we ran newaliases and then it
| truncated the file to whatever aliases it could handle
| but not all that was entered.

It should have worked fine. The only real catch is that an individual
alias line can't be bigger than a DBM record (1024 bytes? something like
that). So my code takes the longer aliases and splits them up like this:

foo: user1, user2,.,userN,foo-sub0
foo-sub0: userN+1,...,userZ,foo-sub1
foo-sub1: userZ+1,...

and so forth. Sendmail happily stitches all that back together so that
mailing to foo goes to everyone as you intended.

Did you lose aliases outright, or were individual long aliases truncated?
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Re: Sendmail and a BIG alias file

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 13:26 29 Apr 2002, Ashwin Khandare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| I somewhat didnt completely follow ur answer.
| Is that u have all your aliases stored in mysql table which u then populate
| in /etc/aliases  maybe by some shell scripts ?

I keep a strcutred representation of our users and groups in a MySQL
database. Those tables store things like mail delivery options, home
directories, group and subgroup memberships etc. I went into this at
some length in another post.

I have some perl scripts which walk those tables and write a text alias
file, which we then hand to the newalias command as normal.
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testing if var is in list (bash)

2002-04-29 Thread christopher j bottaro

i've been reading about advanced bash scripting on some webpage, but i can't 
seem to find what i'm looking for.

is there an easy way to tell if a var is in a list (a list like in a for loop 
list)?  is there a keyword that does what continue does in c?

i wanna get this sudo (sp?) code working...

EXCLUDE_LIST = dir1 dir2 dir3
for DIR in `ls -d */` ; do
if [ $DIR in $EXCLUDE_LIST ] ; then
continue;
fi
echo $DIR
done

thanks for the help,
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Re: GForce4

2002-04-29 Thread christopher j bottaro

does the readme have any special instructions for the geforce4?  i've looked 
through it and didn't find anything.

i just got a geforce4 mx 440 and it doesn't work well with redhat-7.2's 
xfree86-4.1.0 (fully updated by up2date).  i downloaded and installed the 
latest nvidia drivers (just the same with my geforce2 and geforce3 cards 
which all work great btw).

starting the xserver is fine.  starts up, quake3 runs great, etc.  but when i 
shutdown the xserver, the screen goes black and stays black.  i can still 
type commands at the console (i just can't see what i'm typing) and i can 
even restart the xserver (which runs fine again).

this was a real pain the butt, so i gave my geforce4 card to my roommate.  
anyone got any solutions so i can grab it back from him?  ;)

thanks for the help,
christopher

On Monday 29 April 2002 10:55 am, Kirk wrote:
 Geforce4 works great, get the driver RPMS from NVidia.
 Check NVidia Readme first.
 Kirk

 At 12:41 PM 4/29/2002 +0100, you wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I maybe looking at a GForce 4MX 440 card (either XFX or MSI) from CCL
  soon, but seem to remember somewhere that X has a problem with them.
 
 Anyone got any experience/advice on the subject?
 
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hosts.allow ?

2002-04-29 Thread Chad and Doria Skinner

I'm feeling fried at the moment...hosts.allow and hosts.deny are referred to
by a name, but I can not remember what it is does anyone know? I know the
name is used when compiling some software to force it to use the files, but
I'm at a loss. Ideas?

Thanks,
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scsi scanner setup

2002-04-29 Thread hanfamily

Hi
I need some help getting my scanner working. I got a scsi card
that works with linux and have it installed and /var/log/messages
has the following lines
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: SCSI subsystem driver Revision: 1.00
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 10 for device 00:0b.0
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: (scsi0) Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host 
adapter found at PCI 0/11/0
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: (scsi0) Narrow Channel, SCSI ID=7, 16/255 
SCBs
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: (scsi0) Downloading sequencer code... 415 
instructions downloaded
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: scsi0 : Adaptec AHA274x/284x/294x 
(EISA/VLB/PCI-Fast SCSI) 5.2.4/5.2.0
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel:Adaptec AHA-294X SCSI host adapter
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: blk: queue cef60818, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 
0x)
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel:   Vendor: HPModel: C2500A
Rev: 3332
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel:   Type:   Processor  
ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: blk: queue ce88fa18, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 
0x)
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: scsi : 0 hosts left.
Apr 29 15:35:42 Uranus kernel: ip_conntrack (2047 buckets, 16376 max)
~
~
So I think the computer sees the scsi card and the HP scanjet IIcx
yet when I try to run xsane it says no device is found. What do I need
to do so sane can find the scanner?  I have tried looking at the scsi
and sane howto but they leave me totally confused and I don't find any
ideas on what I should try. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I
would really like to scan without booting windows.
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Re: sendmail blows up under skipjack

2002-04-29 Thread ABrady

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 12:35:37 -0700
daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] quietly intimated:

 hello all
 i'm running skipjack on one of my boxes and for some reason, sendmail
 is blowing up during system boot and every time i try to invoke it
 from the shell to send an email.  here's the error it's giving me:
 
 
 /usr/sbin/sendmail: error while loading shared libraries:
 libdb-3.2.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
 directory
 
 
 what's that mean?
 i've already run up2date -uf
 and it's telling me that everything's good
 any suggestions as to how i might fix this?

Not sure on SkipJack, but on my boxen that file is provided by
db3-devel. You might make sure you have that installed. I use 7.1 and
the version here is db3-devel-3.2.9-5.

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Re: hosts.allow ?

2002-04-29 Thread Greg Wright



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On 29/04/2002 at 6:18 PM Chad and Doria Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[gregausit/redhat-list] wrote:

I'm feeling fried at the moment...hosts.allow and hosts.deny are referred
to
by a name, but I can not remember what it is does anyone know? I know the
name is used when compiling some software to force it to use the files,
but
I'm at a loss. Ideas?

Do you mean tcpwrappers  ?

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Re: hosts.allow ?

2002-04-29 Thread Anthony E. Greene

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On 29-Apr-2002/18:18 -0500, Chad and Doria Skinner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm feeling fried at the moment...hosts.allow and hosts.deny are referred
to by a name, but I can not remember what it is does anyone know? I know
the name is used when compiling some software to force it to use the
files, but I'm at a loss. Ideas?

They are used by the tcpwrappers libraries and are described in the
hosts_access(5) man page.

Tony
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Re: testing if var is in list (bash)

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 17:58 29 Apr 2002, christopher j bottaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| i've been reading about advanced bash scripting on some webpage, but i can't 
| seem to find what i'm looking for.
| 
| is there an easy way to tell if a var is in a list (a list like in a for loop 
| list)?  is there a keyword that does what continue does in c?
| 
| i wanna get this sudo (sp?) code working...
| 
| EXCLUDE_LIST = dir1 dir2 dir3
| for DIR in `ls -d */` ; do
|   if [ $DIR in $EXCLUDE_LIST ] ; then
|   continue;
|   fi
|   echo $DIR
| done

case  $EXCLUDE_LIST  in
* $DIR *) echo in list ;;
esac
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RE: hosts.allow ?

2002-04-29 Thread Chad and Doria Skinner

 Do you mean tcpwrappers  ?

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Help! Ghost images bomb out...

2002-04-29 Thread BG



Hi,

I am using Norton 
Ghost 2002 to create partition images of my dual boot W2k and RH 7.2 
installation on an Intel 686 machine with 2 SCSI HDDs. The Linux partition 
images seem to be reliable only some of the time, while the Windblows images 
(both NTFS and FAT32) are 100% reliable.

When they fail I get 
an error:

Unexpected packet 
type: found 3, expecting file data, and Ghost pukes.

I have asked for 
support from Symantec and they have replied with:

Symantec is aware of 
the problem and is investigating its cause. We do not have information at this 
time about whether or when a fix may become available.One of the 
following might fix the problem:

...yadah, yadah, 
yadah...

This problem is seen 
most often when creating an image file locally on a dual-boot computer having 
Linux and Windows XP. Forcing Linux to check the file systems before creating 
the image file may resolve the problem. Type the following at a Linux command 
line:shutdown -F -r now
The -F must be in uppercase. It forces Linux to run FSCK 
on all file systems on startup. The -R restarts the computer. After FSCK repairs 
any errors, run Ghost to create the image.

I realize this is 
most likely a Symantec software problem, but I can not afford to wait for them 
to fix it. Is there a chance anyone on the list has another 
suggestion? I'll try anything. I am desperate for a simple, but 
reliable, Linux backup resource.

Many 
TIA,
Bill


1394 (firewire) HDD

2002-04-29 Thread BG




Hi,

I have aBuslink 1394 (firewire) 60 Gb external HDD I 
would like to use with my RH 7.2 system. Does anyone know if this is 
possible and if so how I can get it to recognize and mount the single drive 
partition?

Many 
TIA,
Bill


Athlon kernel Vs. Normal Kernel ??

2002-04-29 Thread Darryl Harvey

If I have an Athlon CPU, what advantages do I get from running the
Athlon kernel ??  Is it more stable? Faster? Optimised??

What disadvantages do I get if I do NOT use it and stick with the
standard kernel???

Thanks
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Loooooong pause while initializing eht1

2002-04-29 Thread BG



Hi,

I have two nics in 
my RH 7.2 system. Eth0 goes out to the internet through my cable modem and 
eth1 is connected to my internal network. Both are using DHCP. Eth0 
initializes very quickly, but eth1 has a long pause before it is successfully 
initialized. My DHCP server is a W2k machine. I know we probably 
suspect the W2k machine as the cause off the bat, but the long pause only 
recently started. Before now it was very fast. I looked in 
/var/log/messages and a message is being returned after initialization that 
says: Netmask: Unknown host.

Any idea what could 
be thecause of this message?

TIA,
Bill


Digital cameras with RedHat?

2002-04-29 Thread Anand Buddhdev

I want to buy a digital camera for personal use (to take holiday and other
odd pictures now and then), but I have no idea which one to buy. I've
looked around at a few, and most seem to have similar features (Sony,
Olympus, Epson). So my main concern really is that what models are known
to work well with RedHat linux, and what, if any, add-on software do I
need? Does anyone have any experience using their cameras with RedHat,
and if so, what's their experience been like? I'm open to recommendations
of a camera make and model based on your experiences.

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Re: testing if var is in list (bash)

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Monday 29 April 2002 09:39 pm, Cameron Simpson wrote:
 |On 17:58 29 Apr 2002, christopher j bottaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 | i wanna get this sudo (sp?) code working...
 |
 | EXCLUDE_LIST = dir1 dir2 dir3
 | for DIR in `ls -d */` ; do
 | if [ $DIR in $EXCLUDE_LIST ] ; then
 | continue;
 | fi
 | echo $DIR
 | done

 case  $EXCLUDE_LIST  in
 * $DIR *)   echo in list ;;
 esac

I believe he is trying to list everything not included in $EXCLUDE_LIST
In which case he wants something like:

EXCLUDE_LIST=dir1/ dir2/ dir3/ # You'll need the trailing /
for DIR in `ls -d */` ; do
  case  $EXCLUDE_LIST  in
* $DIR *) continue ;;
  esac
echo $DIR
done

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Re: oops can't execute commands

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Monday 29 April 2002 03:33 pm, Linux wrote:
 I have found out that xinetd services are not starting as below

 I cannot execute any commands from the command prompt

I missed the start of this thread, sorry. 
Does it work if you type the full path to the command? For example:
/bin/ls
/usr/bin/free
If those commands work, it would be interesting to see the output of:
/bin/echo $PATH

 Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amanda disabled, removing
 Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amandaidx disabled, removing
 Apr 29 21:39:30 lennie xinetd[906]: amidxtape disabled, removing
[snip]
 Apr 29 21:39:31 lennie xinetd[906]: xinetd Version 2.3.3 started with
 libwrap options compiled in.

Normal, if you haven't enabled those services. The 'disabled' 
above means that the service is intentionally disabled via the associated 
config file in /etc/xinetd.d/{servicename}

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Re: testing if var is in list (bash)

2002-04-29 Thread Cameron Simpson

On 22:37 29 Apr 2002, Michael Fratoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On Monday 29 April 2002 09:39 pm, Cameron Simpson wrote:
|  |On 17:58 29 Apr 2002, christopher j bottaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  | i wanna get this sudo (sp?) code working...
|  | EXCLUDE_LIST = dir1 dir2 dir3
|  | for DIR in `ls -d */` ; do
|  |   if [ $DIR in $EXCLUDE_LIST ] ; then
|  |   continue;
|  |   fi
|  |   echo $DIR
|  | done
| 
|  case  $EXCLUDE_LIST  in
|  * $DIR *) echo in list ;;
|  esac
| 
| I believe he is trying to list everything not included in $EXCLUDE_LIST
| In which case he wants something like:

I was just supplying the test. Using it or its inverse for one thing or
another is up to him.
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Re: Mount ext partition into user dir with user permissions

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Monday 29 April 2002 03:02 am, Peter Kiem wrote:
 Tried to do something which I thought would be really simple, mount a
 partition into a user's dir to be owned by that user.

 e.g. mount /dev/hdb1 /home/user/data

 where /home/user/data is an empty directory owned by user.user

 No matter what I do when the partition is mounted it is always owned as
 root.root and user doesn't have any permissions to it.

 I've tried combinations of parameters in fstab like owner and user
 but nothing seems to work.

 Anyone got any hints please?

I do this here without any difficulty, so I'm not sure what the problem 
might be.
I mount a drive into my home directory at boot up.
Here is my fstab entry:
/dev/hda2/home/mfratoni/develext3defaults1 2

Permissions on the mount point are:
[root@paradox root]# umount /home/mfratoni/devel/
[root@paradox root]# ls -al /home/mfratoni/devel/
total 8
drwxrwxr-x2 mfratoni mfratoni 4096 Mar  9 16:56 .
drwx--   37 mfratoni mfratoni 4096 Apr 29 23:00 ..

Is there an existing filesystem on the drive, owned by root?

What happens if you mount it, chown -R user.user /mount_point, umount, 
and mount again?

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Re: gnumeric dependency for upgrade

2002-04-29 Thread ABrady

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 22:00:06 -0500
bbales [EMAIL PROTECTED] quietly intimated:

 I downloaded the rpm for gnumeric-1.0.5, and tried to upgrade from the
 redhat 7.2 provided gnumeric-0.67-10.  I get a failed dependencies
 message as below:
 
 [root@bertha rpms]# rpm -U gnumeric-1.0.5-3.i386.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 gnumeric = 0.67 is needed by gnumeric-devel-0.67-10
 
 [root@bertha rpms]# rpm -q gnumeric
 gnumeric-0.67-10
 
 [root@bertha rpms]# rpm -q gnumeric-devel
 gnumeric-devel-0.67-10
 
 It appears rpm is requiring an exact match for gnumeric-0.67 and
 cannot accept gnumeric-0.67-10.  Did I misunderstand the error and how
 can I get around this?
 bruce

On the contrary. It's saying you are trying to install 1.0.5 and you
already have 0.67-10. But you also have the 0.67-10 devel rpm and that
needs the 0.67-10 rpm.

In other words, you have:

gnumeric-0.67-10
gnumeric-devel-0.67-10

You want to upgrade with:

gnumeric-1.0.5

It won't let you because the devel version needs the same version. Since
you aren't uninstalling it, it would be left behind. It isn't consistent
with the new rpm for gnumeric and generates an error saying so.

You have two options. you can either try to find gnumeric-devel-1.0.5
and upgrade that at the same time, or you can uninstall gnumeric-devel
and then upgrade gnumeric.

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Re: gnumeric dependency for upgrade

2002-04-29 Thread Wayne Stout

At 10:00 PM 4/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I downloaded the rpm for gnumeric-1.0.5, and tried to upgrade from the redhat
7.2 provided gnumeric-0.67-10.  I get a failed dependencies message as below:

[root@bertha rpms]# rpm -U gnumeric-1.0.5-3.i386.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
 gnumeric = 0.67 is needed by gnumeric-devel-0.67-10

[root@bertha rpms]# rpm -q gnumeric
gnumeric-0.67-10

[root@bertha rpms]# rpm -q gnumeric-devel
gnumeric-devel-0.67-10

It appears rpm is requiring an exact match for gnumeric-0.67 and cannot
accept gnumeric-0.67-10.  Did I misunderstand the error and how can I get
around this?
bruce


Actually, the message is occuring because you are (apparently) trying to 
upgrade *from* 0.67-10 *to* 1.0.5. Grap the gnumeric-devel that matches the 
new version you're trying to upgrade to and upgrade them both at once. So, 
if you have them both in the same directory, simply do a 'rpm -Uvh gnumeric*' .

HTH,

Wayne




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RE: Digital cameras with RedHat?

2002-04-29 Thread Gregory Hosler

generally cameras that use CF cards (compact flash) can be read either over the
usb port (with gphoto2), or via a CF reader (e.g. the sandisk SDDR-31)

I have a Nikon coolpix 990, and it's a great camera, and is well supported
either as a camera (with gphoto2) or with the cf reader.

The gphoto2 home page (http://www.gphoto.org/) will give a list of over a
hundred camers knows to work (http://www.gphoto.org/cameras.html, 162 models),
and the level of compatability you can expect.

rgds,

-Greg

On 30-Apr-02 Anand Buddhdev wrote:
 I want to buy a digital camera for personal use (to take holiday and other
 odd pictures now and then), but I have no idea which one to buy. I've
 looked around at a few, and most seem to have similar features (Sony,
 Olympus, Epson). So my main concern really is that what models are known
 to work well with RedHat linux, and what, if any, add-on software do I
 need? Does anyone have any experience using their cameras with RedHat,
 and if so, what's their experience been like? I'm open to recommendations
 of a camera make and model based on your experiences.
 
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Re: Mount ext partition into user dir with user permissions

2002-04-29 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 00:02, Peter Kiem wrote:
 Tried to do something which I thought would be really simple, mount a 
 partition into a user's dir to be owned by that user.
 
 e.g. mount /dev/hdb1 /home/user/data
...
 I've tried combinations of parameters in fstab like owner and user but 
 nothing seems to work.

Try uid=user,gid=user




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Re: nscd

2002-04-29 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Sun, 2002-04-28 at 10:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all
 
 What is the function of nscd
 
 Stopping Name Switch Cache Daemon: nscd

The name service switch (configured in /etc/nsswitch.conf) can look up
names from various services, such as usernames from NIS or LDAP, or
hostnames from files, DNS, or NIS.  The Cache Daemon caches lookups
locally to speed the client, and relieve load on the server.




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RE: hosts.allow ?

2002-04-29 Thread Michael S. Dunsavage

erm

it allows certain address acces to your machine on certain ports/services

ie u can only allow a certain ip to telnet

and hosts.allow takes precedence over hosts.deny

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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 4:19 PM
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Subject: hosts.allow ?


I'm feeling fried at the moment...hosts.allow and hosts.deny are referred to
by a name, but I can not remember what it is does anyone know? I know the
name is used when compiling some software to force it to use the files, but
I'm at a loss. Ideas?

Thanks,
Chad



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Re: Loooooong pause while initializing eht1

2002-04-29 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 19:40, BG wrote:

 successfully initialized.  My DHCP server is a W2k machine.  I know we
 probably suspect the W2k machine as the cause off the bat, but the long
 pause only recently started.  Before now it was very fast.  I looked in
 /var/log/messages and a message is being returned after initialization that
 says: Netmask: Unknown host.

Is your DHCP server sending back a netmask of Netmask (I don't know if
that's even possible :) ?  Or maybe NETMASK=Netmask is in ifcfg-eth1?




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