Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:11, NiteOwl wrote:
 Anyone knows how to get rid of those annoying color mouse cursors in RH9? 
 I need the old, plain, default, non-flashing, vanilla X11R6 cursors, please!!! 

Well, if you really don't want the new cursors...

Create the file ( if you don't already have it ) ~/.Xresources and place
in it: Xcursor.core yes

Then restart X.


Regards,
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Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 23:15, Jim Hayward wrote:
 
 Then restart X.

Shez, what was I thinking. :-P Forget I said that. Just logout and
login back in.


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Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-05 Thread Sasa Stupar
  Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you? That
is exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux system 
into older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (down to 6MB RAM 
in some cases), and install a much smaller set of packages than Anaconda 
usually selects. It is still Red Hat Linux, though.


Yes I have even tested it and strange thing happened. I have selected NO 
sendmail and NO ssh  and some other stuff but they were installed 
regardless of my choise. So this looks like normal minimal install from 
RH8. In fact it is the same install after I have checked the size on the 
disk it is exactly the same 476 megs. Looks like that dependieces didn't 
let to install without some files which I didn't want to.

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wu-ftp and FlashFXP

2003-10-05 Thread Sasa Stupar
Does wu-ftp support FlashFXP option and how to configure it ?

Sasa

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Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-05 Thread NiteOwl
On Sunday 05 October 2003 08:15, Jim Hayward wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-10-04 at 09:11, NiteOwl wrote:
  Anyone knows how to get rid of those annoying color mouse cursors in RH9?
  I need the old, plain, default, non-flashing, vanilla X11R6 cursors,
  please!!!

 Well, if you really don't want the new cursors...

 Create the file ( if you don't already have it ) ~/.Xresources and place
 in it: Xcursor.core yes

It works perfectly (I set the value system-wide putting it in 
/etc/X11/Xresources)!

Thanks a lot!

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Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-05 Thread Michael Fratoni
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On Sunday 05 October 2003 03:25 am, Sasa Stupar wrote:
Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you?
That
 
  is exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux
  system into older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (down to
  6MB RAM in some cases), and install a much smaller set of packages
  than Anaconda usually selects. It is still Red Hat Linux, though.

 Yes I have even tested it and strange thing happened. I have selected
 NO sendmail and NO ssh  and some other stuff but they were installed
 regardless of my choise. So this looks like normal minimal install from
 RH8. In fact it is the same install after I have checked the size on
 the disk it is exactly the same 476 megs. Looks like that dependieces
 didn't let to install without some files which I didn't want to.

The base install should take less than 200 megs. You may have selected 
other package groups which require sendmail or ssh. Would you mind 
sending me a copy of /root/scripts/install_log offlist?

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a tool for converting from *.avi to vcd or svcd?

2003-10-05 Thread sting sting
Hello,
can anybody recommend a tool on RH9 for converting
from *.avi to vcd  or svcd?
I had googled the net and afterwards
I had tried with mplayer utilityies;  I had  also tried with avidemux
http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/ ; I followed the conver avi section in 
their doc link)  to
create a video file and an audio file from  the *.avi file, and then to 
combine them together
with mplex , but the mplex operation failed;

Did anybody succeed in a task like that ?
regards
sting
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Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-05 Thread Sasa Stupar
Michael Fratoni wrote:
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On Sunday 05 October 2003 03:25 am, Sasa Stupar wrote:

  Did you even look at the RULE page that someone suggested to you?
  That
is exactly what RULE does: allow you to install a Red Hat Linux
system into older hardware, or any hardware with less memory (down to
6MB RAM in some cases), and install a much smaller set of packages
than Anaconda usually selects. It is still Red Hat Linux, though.
Yes I have even tested it and strange thing happened. I have selected
NO sendmail and NO ssh  and some other stuff but they were installed
regardless of my choise. So this looks like normal minimal install from
RH8. In fact it is the same install after I have checked the size on
the disk it is exactly the same 476 megs. Looks like that dependieces
didn't let to install without some files which I didn't want to.


The base install should take less than 200 megs. You may have selected 
other package groups which require sendmail or ssh. Would you mind 
sending me a copy of /root/scripts/install_log offlist?

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When I select NO for sendmail it responds Bad number and also for ssh.
I can't give you a copy becasue I have allready erase it. The packages I 
have select were nettools, iptables.
But what I have seen it installs also ftp client, man pages etc.
Anyway I'll try to make minimum with custom setup from RH8 and with 
ignoring dependiences. Will see how it works.

Sasa

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What users are doing ?

2003-10-05 Thread Himanshu Arora
Hi all!
As a system administrator i want to get the information what users are 
doing. Checking their .bash_history is not a reliable thing as they can 
make changes in this file very easily. Is their any command or any other 
way to get the information from the root side.
Regards
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Re: a tool for converting from *.avi to vcd or svcd?

2003-10-05 Thread Stephan Matthiesen
Hi,

Am Sonntag, 5. Oktober 2003 09:55 schrieb sting sting:
 can anybody recommend a tool on RH9 for converting
 from *.avi to vcd  or svcd?

Transcode seems to handle a lot of video convertions
http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/
RPMs are at freshrpms.net

Not sure if it does what you want though, but it's worth having a look.

Hope that helps
Stephan


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Scsi cd-rom support in arjanv's 2.6 test series kernel ?

2003-10-05 Thread Adam Bowns
Hello all,

Has anyone out there had any problems with their scsi cdrom when running
arjanv's 2.6 test series kernels ?

The problem I am having with it is, the kernel detects my cdrom on
startup giving me a message like

Vendor: YAMAHA Model: CRW2100S Rev: 1.0N
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02

but when i try to mount /dev/sdc0 -t iso9660 -r /mnt/cdrom/ i get the
message mount: special device /dev/sdc0 does not exist

i double checked to see if the sr_mod (scsi cdrom module) was loaded and
it wasn't so i did a modprobe sr_mod and it loaded successfully, but
the mount command still produces the same output as it did before.

Also when I do an ls /dev/scd0 it shows /dev/scd0 in yellow writing
with a black background, which i have no idea what that means.

Just to exclude some things my scsi host controller and hard disk are
working fine, and I can also use my ide cdrom drive.

Any thoughts on this would be much appreciated,
Thanks,
Adam Bowns 
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Inflex mail scanner

2003-10-05 Thread fred
Redhat 7.2
Inflex mail scanner/sendmail

I am trying to block file extenstions. Now I find that some excel,word docs
are not getting through. here is how i blocked .bat, .scr etc. what am i
doing wrong?
Also, in the inflex directory I see a file with a extenstion I don't know.
.inflex.swn any clues?


Now we can search through the resultant file/type list as

# generated from above, and we output the results to the

# BADFILES list.

#

testing

# Suggested by Michael A. Dietz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

#

# 17/04/2001-Phil Crooker - Improved Executable detection line

#

$file -f $filelist  $fileresults



${cut} -d: -f2 $fileresults | ${grep} AVI  ${typebadfileslog}

${cut} -d: -f2 $fileresults | ${grep} MPEG  {typebadfileslog}

${cut} -d: -f2 $fileresults | ${grep} WAVE  {typebadfileslog}

else

printf Type scanning off.\n  ${locallog}

fi

#

# If any files tested positive in the above magic/name tests

# then the badfileslist will be bigger than 0-bytes

# Hence if so, set the scan status to say so!

#

if [ -s ${typebadfileslog} ]

then

filetypescan=1

lresult=1

emailblocked=1

cat ${typebadfileslog}  ${badfileslog}

else

filetypescan=0

fi

if [ $emailblocked -eq 0 ]; then

if [ a${scanforfilename} != an ]

then

#

# Next we also scan for actual file names

# This is VERY useful for if there is a know file that contains

# a virus, but alas, our virus scanner can't pick it up

#

# 1.0.3 - changed -iname to $find_flags, this is to increase

# portability between OS's, as some find implemtations only take

# -name rather than -iname (ie, FreeBSD)

#

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.mp3  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.vbs  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei \\$  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.bat  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.pif  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.scr  ${namebadfileslog}

cat $filelist | ${grep} -Ei *.com  ${namebadfileslog}




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Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-05 Thread Kevin MacNeil
On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:54:46PM -0700, bruce wrote:

 my $0.02 worth..and i don't normally follow this group/thread for
 linux to compete/succeed against windows/msoft on the desktop... there
 needs to be a rock solid office set of apps... for 20% of the price...
 
 then you would see msoft fall like a rock... if oracle put in a $1
 billion, and sun gave their star office app, and then a huge open
 source app was create with the star office/funds as a start... within
 12-18 months you'd put a dent in msoft

I honestly think the desktop is pretty much there right now. For
ordinary office stuff a good distribution like Redhat and OO.o, mozilla,
evolution, etc. are more than enough for most office workers.  And they
don't cost 20% of Windows + Office, they're free. It's old hat to us,
but your average clueless user (and IT manager) either doesn't know you
can get better software for nothing, or else believes it must be bad
because it's free.  I've run into this over and over.

What I think will happen is more people will realize that paying $600 or
more for an OS and office suite of dubious quality is ludicrous,
especially when the net allows for much lower production and
distribution costs. Microsoft et al are responding by trying to grab
control of the PC hardware platform to prevent interoperability, etc.,
but I believe they will fail. Eventually even average users will
understand that it's better for them to control what happens on their
computers rather than some remote, Palladium-enabled corporate interest.
If the open PC hardware platform manages to survive this serious threat,
it's game over. Commodity software will rule the world and the huge
commercial software houses will have to adapt or die.


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nfs question

2003-10-05 Thread João Borsoi Soares
Hello list,

I've set up a nfs server, and I was having a problem when booting the
system. I was getting the following message:

rpc.nfsd: nfssvc: Address already in use

Well, I found out the problem. My server is a nfs server but also a nfs
client (through netfs). Redhat setup application made boot service order
like that:

1) nfslock
2) netfs
3) nfs

Starting nfslock and after netfs makes nfs 2049 port unavailable. So I
forced netfs to be started after netfs and the problem was solved.

Does anyone knows why that happens? Is my solution the best one? Why
redhat setup application does not put the correct boot order in this
case?

Thanks,
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Re: What users are doing ?

2003-10-05 Thread Jens Tautenhahn
Himanshu Arora wrote:

As a system administrator i want to get the information what users are 
doing. Checking their .bash_history is not a reliable thing as they can 
make changes in this file very easily. Is their any command or any other 
way to get the information from the root side.
You can use process accounting (service psacct on) for this. You'll find 
this in psacct-6.3.2-27.i386.rpm.

To view the last executed commands use lastcomm or for an individual 
user lastcomm user.

Jens

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Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-05 Thread Jens Tautenhahn
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BTW: The use of PGP/GnuPG in an public mailinglist isn't helpfully when
your public key is not available on key servers.
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Eax In Linux

2003-10-05 Thread Ziad
I'm wondering if the emu10k1 Alsa module supports Eax.

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Hp pavillion ze4222

2003-10-05 Thread Giacomo Bosio
I installed RedHat9 on a laptop (HP pavillion ze4222) and I have a
''little'' problem. X won't start. What can I do?
Someone, who have the same laptop, can send me his XF86Config file?
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Re: RH9 mouse cursors

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 04:37, Jens Tautenhahn wrote:
 
 BTW: The use of PGP/GnuPG in an public mailinglist isn't helpfully when
 your public key is not available on key servers.

www.keyserver.net 

click find and enter my e-mail address.

It has been available there for a very long time. I guess you didn't try
that server.


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Re: OS Desktop Business Model?

2003-10-05 Thread Jack Bowling
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 09:17:37AM -0400, Kevin MacNeil wrote:
 On Sat, Oct 04, 2003 at 10:54:46PM -0700, bruce wrote:
 
  my $0.02 worth..and i don't normally follow this group/thread for
  linux to compete/succeed against windows/msoft on the desktop... there
  needs to be a rock solid office set of apps... for 20% of the price...
  
  then you would see msoft fall like a rock... if oracle put in a $1
  billion, and sun gave their star office app, and then a huge open
  source app was create with the star office/funds as a start... within
  12-18 months you'd put a dent in msoft
 
 I honestly think the desktop is pretty much there right now. For
 ordinary office stuff a good distribution like Redhat and OO.o, mozilla,
 evolution, etc. are more than enough for most office workers.  And they
 don't cost 20% of Windows + Office, they're free. It's old hat to us,
 but your average clueless user (and IT manager) either doesn't know you
 can get better software for nothing, or else believes it must be bad
 because it's free.  I've run into this over and over.

In my corporation, there is a whole department that concerns itself with
the procurement, installation and administration of MS products. If they
were to drop MS products, there would need to be a wholesale retraining
of the IT staff and the users of the software. As well, a couple of
years down the road when it is found that open source software fits the
bill nicely at much less cost, the existence of most of the layer of
software support staffing would be called into question. So there is a
built-in survival instinct for not letting open source in the door for
some people. Having said that, it is a concern mainly for the desktop
user (Exchange Server, XP). Linux is taking over more and more functions
from our old HP-UX boxes in the backroom and will continue to do so. 
Eventually there will be a solid foundation of linux boxes with an easy
to use but virus-sucking desktop layer on the desktop. I think it will be
easier to rationalize the switch with time.

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red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Joe Szilagyi
Does anyone happen to know what it is? Thanks.
_
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RE: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Buck
And another one crawls out from under a rock.

;)

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RE: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Buck
Sorry,

This discussion has raised about 200 messages a day for the last two
weeks.  Red Hat Linux is no more.  Now there is Fedora.  Please check
out http://fedora.redhat.com  also check out the archives.

Buck

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And another one crawls out from under a rock.

;)

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 14:18, Joe Szilagyi wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know what it is? Thanks.

There is no longer and will never be a Red Hat 10. The consumer version
of Red Hat Linux essentially no longer exists. It has been replaced by
Fedora Linux Project. The first release of Fedora Core is scheduled
to be released November 3rd. 

It should be noted and I am quoting from the Fedora Project web site..

The Fedora Project is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc.


Visit the link below for more about what the Fedora Project is.

http://fedora.redhat.com/


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Redhat Certification

2003-10-05 Thread Go, Jeffrey
Hi all,

I am testing for my RHCT in 3 weeks..with all of the latest developments, should I 
even bother to do this?

This will be for the RHCT for RH 9.0

thanks

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Sent: DSun, Oct 05, 2003 15:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: red hat 10 release date


On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 14:18, Joe Szilagyi wrote:
 Does anyone happen to know what it is? Thanks.

There is no longer and will never be a Red Hat 10. The consumer version
of Red Hat Linux essentially no longer exists. It has been replaced by
Fedora Linux Project. The first release of Fedora Core is scheduled
to be released November 3rd. 

It should be noted and I am quoting from the Fedora Project web site..

The Fedora Project is not a supported product of Red Hat, Inc.


Visit the link below for more about what the Fedora Project is.

http://fedora.redhat.com/


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cvs commit command fails

2003-10-05 Thread Shawn
Hello,

One moment I am committing happily via cvs and then next I can't and the 
shell never returns -- (using cvs1.11.2-10
ssh 3.5p1-11)

It doesn't matter which file I try either, it happens with them all now.   
Every thing was fine until I tried $cvs add -kb -m screen shot for filter 
tag filter_tag_example.png
and then
$ cvs commit filter_tag_example.png
[the first line may be in error - maybe the add can't take a -m arguement, 
sometimes I make that mistake but never before has it refused to commit 
when I tried it again using proper syntax, but then again it's a newer 
version of ssh)

Here is the error I get for whatever I try to commit now.  Checkout and 
update still work fine.

CVS: --
CVS: Enter Log.  Lines beginning with `CVS:' are removed automatically
CVS:
CVS: Committing in .
CVS:
CVS: Modified Files:
CVS:Query_Support.xml
CVS: --
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
~
/tmp/cvs7ppK6k 9L, 303C
Shawn
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Re: Redhat Certification

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 16:35, Go, Jeffrey wrote:
 I am testing for my RHCT in 3 weeks..with all of the latest developments, should I 
 even bother to do this?
 
 This will be for the RHCT for RH 9.0

RHCE/RHCT certifications are based on the Enterprise Linux products.

https://www.redhat.com/training/rhce/rhce_faq.html#current

Quoting

The validity period for all RHCEs and RHCTs is now officially pegged to
the release of the Enterprise product commercially available at the time
certification was earned, and certification shall be current until after
one (1) major release of the Enterprise product. All RHCEs earned on Red
Hat Linux 7.3 or prior will be considered current until the release of
Red Hat Enterprise Linux AS/ES/WS 4. All RHCEs and RHCTs earned on Red
Hat Linux 8.0 or 9 will remain current until the release of Red Hat
Enterprise Linux 5. Validity and current status of an RHCE certificate
will continue to be verified at Certification Central.


Regards,
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Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread KC
I would like to have an external firewire drive, that both my windows and
linux machines can read. The drive is formatted with FAT32, can RH9 read
this natively?  Or do i need to install an RPM or something?


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Install Linux on external drive, drivers?

2003-10-05 Thread KC
If I install linux (RH9) on a parition(s) in my external firewire (IEEE
1394) drive, will i need to have any sort of drivers for linux itself? What
about to read other partitions on the drive?

KC


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HTB stuff

2003-10-05 Thread Alex
I downloaded iproute2-2.4.7-now-ss010824.tar.gz and I did patched tc with
the htb3.6_tc.diff from htb3.6-020525.tgz and when I try to use a htb script
I get just errors. I did not patch the kernel, since I use kernel 2.4.21 and
I saw on - HTB Homepage that I need to patch it only if I run version 2.4.20
or earlier. Do also need the kernel patch ? Or maybe is something else
wrong?
Errors:
---
RTNETLINK answers: No such file or directory
Deleted old root disk on eth0
Unknown filter flowid, hence option 1:10 is unparsable
Unknown filter flowid, hence option 1:2 is unparsable
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument
RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument


Part of my script (the full script is accesible on
http://retea.hostingcenter.ro/htb.txt   ..is too long to post here) :
---
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev eth1 root handle 1: htb default 10
/sbin/tc class add dev eth1 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 10mbit

/sbin/tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 5mbit
/sbin/tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:10 prio 5 handle 6 flowid
1:10

/sbin/tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:1 classid 1:2 htb rate 5mbit
/sbin/tc filter add dev eth1 protocol ip parent 1:10 prio 5 handle 5 flowid
1:2


/sbin/tc class add dev eth1 parent 1:10 classid 4:11 htb rate 128kbit ceil
256kbit prio 5
/sbin/tc filter add dev eth1 parent 1:10 protocol ip prio 5 u32 match ip dst
192.168.254.10 flowid 4:11

Thanks!

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Jim Hayward
On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 15:14, Jeff Wimmer wrote:
 So RedHat is dropping the  end user version and concentrating on
 commercial enterprise based products?  Is that what I'm understanding here?

Correct. They are dropping the end user/consumer version for the
Fedora Project. The only RH products will be the RHEL line.

 This would seem rather dumb on RH's part, since I doubt they have enough
 sales to support the company RH has grown into people wise just by
 enterprise sales alone.  VERY dumb move on their part ifyou ask me.

I agree that RH needs a product priced for the SOHO and small business
markets. This is something IMO they currently do not have in their RHEL
line of products. 

Only time will tell if this turns into a disaster. I'm going to miss the
boxed sets. I have bought a boxed set for every RH release since 5.2.
Hopefully RH will bring them back in the future in some way. Plus now
the only way I can support RH (unless I have a future need to an RHEL
product) is to buy a subscription to RHN. I prefer to do manual updates
and don't use RHN. So I guess I end up buying something that I will
probably never put to use. :-P I guess I will consider it the price for
a Fedora boxed set.

My big concern is how stable the Fedora Project is going to be with the
frequent release schedule. 

I have not installed any of the Fedora test releases, but I will
download and install the final release. This first release is
essentially what would have been RH 10. As for releases after this one,
my current attitude about the changes is to wait and see. 


Regards,
Jim No longer a Red Hat Linux user, but maybe a Fedora Project user H


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Re: LANG=?

2003-10-05 Thread Ian Mortimer

 Some questions: Why would Redhat choose an encoding for rh9 that breaks
 all manner of things? 

Because unicode is the future.  For English language speakers it might
seem unnecessary but for those of us who have to provide support for
other languages it's a benefit.

The main problem at the moment seems to be a bug in perl's unicode
handling.  Apparently that's fixed in rawhide (and presumably will
be fixed in Fedora).

The bad news is the disease seems to have spread from RH 9 to RH 8.0
following the latest perl errata updates.

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Re: Redhat Certification

2003-10-05 Thread Ian Mortimer

 I am testing for my RHCT in 3 weeks..with all of the latest developments, 
 should I even bother to do this?

I would say yes because:

   RedHat certification is now based on RHEL

   The certification is useful in itself.  Most of the RHCE course is not
   RedHat specific and much of not even Linux specific.  (Don't know about
   RHCT but I presume it's similar).


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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Michael Mansour
You think in the long run Fedora will actually get off
the ground like Red Hat Linux did? 

I'm very sceptic about Red Hat's move and although can
understand why Red Hat would do such a thing, don't
agree with it as it directly affects me and my use of
Linux.

Maybe for the long term it'll be time to move to Suse?

Michael.

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On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 14:18, Joe Szilagyi wrote:
  Does anyone happen to know what it is? Thanks.
 
 There is no longer and will never be a Red Hat 10.
 The consumer version
 of Red Hat Linux essentially no longer exists. It
 has been replaced by
 Fedora Linux Project. The first release of Fedora
 Core is scheduled
 to be released November 3rd. 
 
 It should be noted and I am quoting from the Fedora
 Project web site..
 
 The Fedora Project is not a supported product of
 Red Hat, Inc.
 
 
 Visit the link below for more about what the Fedora
 Project is.
 
 http://fedora.redhat.com/
 
 
 Regards,
   Jim H
 
 
 
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Reading beyond the end of drive again

2003-10-05 Thread Sergey Melikhov
Hello to the List Members!

I was searching the Internet (and this list) for a
while, and found many people with similar symptoms. I
could find no satisfactory solutions to their
problems, though. So, I decided to ask here. 

I've got a RedHat 9.0 SMP system (L440GX motherboard,
2x650 Pentium III, 1GB RAM). There are two SCSI disk
drives and two IDE disk drives (connected to a Promise
ATA-100 card). 

Linux l440gx 2.4.20-20.9smp #1 SMP Mon Aug 18 11:32:15
EDT 2003 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

The following is the fdisk -l output for the disk
drive in question (MAXTOR 120GB):

Disk /dev/hdg: 122.9 GB, 122942324736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 
   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id 
System
/dev/hdg1   1 14946 120053713+  83  Linux
 
Here is my problem. System worked OK for a while
(several months).  Recently, I found the file system
re-mounted read-only, and the following messages in
the syslog:

Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: hdg: dma_intr:
status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: hdg: dma_intr:
error=0x40 { UncorrectableError }, LBAsect=20793,
sector=20728
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: end_request: I/O
error, dev 22:01 (hdg), sector 20728
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel:
journal_bmap_Rsmp_514801a1: journal block not found at
offset 2060 on ide3(34,1)
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: Aborting journal on
device ide3(34,1).
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: ext3_abort called.
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: EXT3-fs abort
(device ide3(34,1)): ext3_journal_start: Detected
aborted journal
Sep 29 05:04:46 localhost kernel: Remounting
filesystem read-only

I booted from a floppy, and ran Maxtor's diagnostic
program (full scan) - no problems detected.

I ran 'badblocks' as well, on /dev/hdg, and it went
OK.

I successfully read the whole drive (

Then I tried to read /dev/hdg1 (the partition) with
dd, and got an error (this example skips most of the
drive, but when I read the whole drive, result is the
same)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /]# dd bs=10k skip=1200 of=/dev/null
if=/dev/hdg1
dd: reading `/dev/hdg1': Input/output error
5371+1 records in
5371+1 records out

There were errors in /var/log/messages as well:
Oct  5 21:10:28 localhost kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device
Oct  5 21:10:28 localhost kernel: 22:01: rw=0,
want=120053716, limit=120053713
Oct  5 21:10:28 localhost kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device
Oct  5 21:10:28 localhost kernel: 22:01: rw=0,
want=120053716, limit=120053713

This condition is 100% reproduceable. This condition
does not exist on the second IDE drive, nor on any of
SCSI drives. 

I have tried the following:

* Create smaller partition (as small as 100MB in the
beginning of the drive) - the same error, dd tried to
read beyond of the partition.

Disk /dev/hdg: 122.9 GB, 122942324736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
 
   Device BootStart   EndBlocks   Id 
System
/dev/hdg1 113104391   83 
Linux

Oct  5 21:16:23 localhost kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device
Oct  5 21:16:23 localhost kernel: 22:01: rw=0,
want=104392, limit=104391
Oct  5 21:16:23 localhost kernel: attempt to access
beyond end of device
Oct  5 21:16:23 localhost kernel: 22:01: rw=0,
want=104392, limit=104391

* Fill the beginning of the drive with zeroes and
re-create partition table - no help either.

I don't know what to think in this situation. I don't
know I have this problem from the very beginning (and
just noticed it when the disk got filled up), or
something broke recently. I don't know if this is a
disk or RedHat problem.

Before I start trying different kernels, I would like
to know your opinion.

Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated !!!


Sincerely yours,

  Sergey 

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Jim Hayward wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 15:14, Jeff Wimmer wrote:
  So RedHat is dropping the  end user version and concentrating on
  commercial enterprise based products?  Is that what I'm understanding here?
 
 Correct. They are dropping the end user/consumer version for the
 Fedora Project. The only RH products will be the RHEL line.

True yesterday, but not today.
Please refer to http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/.  
Not much information there yet, but it's coming.

 I agree that RH needs a product priced for the SOHO and small business
 markets. This is something IMO they currently do not have in their RHEL
 line of products. 

Hence the product listed above.
 
 Only time will tell if this turns into a disaster. I'm going to miss the
 boxed sets. I have bought a boxed set for every RH release since 5.2.
 Hopefully RH will bring them back in the future in some way. 

See above.  It's back!

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Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 06:09:30PM -0600, KC wrote:
 I would like to have an external firewire drive, that both my windows and
 linux machines can read. The drive is formatted with FAT32, can RH9 read
 this natively?  Or do i need to install an RPM or something?

Yes. The partition size can not exceed 32G though.


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Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread KC
What if the partition is larger than 32gb?

and is there any way around this, another file system that can have a much
larger max capacity, but still readable by windows and linux (NTFS for
example?)

KC
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From: Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions


 On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 06:09:30PM -0600, KC wrote:
  I would like to have an external firewire drive, that both my windows
and
  linux machines can read. The drive is formatted with FAT32, can RH9 read
  this natively?  Or do i need to install an RPM or something?

 Yes. The partition size can not exceed 32G though.


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Re: cvs commit command fails

2003-10-05 Thread Eduardo A. dela Rosa




On Mon, 2003-10-06 at 07:57, Shawn wrote:



CVS: --
CVS: Enter Log.  Lines beginning with `CVS:' are removed automatically
CVS:
CVS: Committing in .
CVS:
CVS: Modified Files:
CVS:Query_Support.xml
CVS: --
~
~


dear shawn,

this message isn't an error. this a vi(sual) editor in normal mode. you type your message here and w(rite)
it. it will be included in your message log along with the file that's being committed.




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Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 07:54:34PM -0600, KC wrote:
  Yes. The partition size can not exceed 32G though.

 What if the partition is larger than 32gb?

 and is there any way around this, another file system that can have a much
 larger max capacity, but still readable by windows and linux (NTFS for
 example?)

NTFS can be read, but not write by linux. You will need to install a 
small rpm to do this.  (apt-get install kernel-ntfs ?)

I have tried to find better solutions but failed. Now, I use fat32 to 
share files between two (dual boot) systems and if necessary, mount and  
read ntfs system files of windows.

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Re: Minimal install RH8?

2003-10-05 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 03:11 10/5/2003, you wrote:
Anyway I'll try to make minimum with custom setup from RH8 and with 
ignoring dependiences. Will see how it works.
Ignoring dependencies is not usually a good idea. A product depends on 
another for a reason usually...

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Gerry Doris
 On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 05:32:38PM -0700, Jim Hayward wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-10-05 at 15:14, Jeff Wimmer wrote:
  So RedHat is dropping the  end user version and concentrating on
  commercial enterprise based products?  Is that what I'm understanding
 here?

 Correct. They are dropping the end user/consumer version for the
 Fedora Project. The only RH products will be the RHEL line.

 True yesterday, but not today.
 Please refer to http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/.
 Not much information there yet, but it's coming.

I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but the workstation version is NOT
equal to the old Redhat Linux.  It sounds like the WS version is missing
all of the server functionality that was in RHL.  It also costs $179USD
which seems high compared to the boxed version of other distros like SuSE.

I'm not saying the WS version is a bad prodcut...it just isn't the same as
the old RHL.

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Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread KC
Can i partition a drive multiple times? Like partitioning a FAT32 120gb
drive, into 3 32gb partitions, is that a possible workaround? Or can linux
only read one  FAT32 parition. And do I need to install an RPM for FAT32
support?

KC
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From: Bo Peng [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions


 On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 07:54:34PM -0600, KC wrote:
   Yes. The partition size can not exceed 32G though.

  What if the partition is larger than 32gb?

  and is there any way around this, another file system that can have a
much
  larger max capacity, but still readable by windows and linux (NTFS for
  example?)

 NTFS can be read, but not write by linux. You will need to install a
 small rpm to do this.  (apt-get install kernel-ntfs ?)

 I have tried to find better solutions but failed. Now, I use fat32 to
 share files between two (dual boot) systems and if necessary, mount and
 read ntfs system files of windows.

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Ed Wilts
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 10:33:14PM -0400, Gerry Doris wrote:
 I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but the workstation version is NOT
 equal to the old Redhat Linux.  It sounds like the WS version is missing
 all of the server functionality that was in RHL.  It also costs $179USD
 which seems high compared to the boxed version of other distros like SuSE.

You're wrong :-)

From what I know, this is based on the RHEL WS, but it is not RHEL WS.
It most definitely does *NOT* have a $179/year price tag.

It's not missing all of the server applications, even if it's identical
to RHEL WS.  Here's the list of server apps that I took from the taroon beta:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ grep server up2date.showall.ws
mysql-server-3.23.58-1.i386
openssh-server-3.6.1p2-18.i386
rh-postgresql-server-7.3.4-4.i386
rsh-server-0.17-17.i386
rusers-server-0.17-31.1.i386
telnet-server-0.17-26.i386
vnc-server-4.0-0.beta4.1.1.i386

httpd, sendmail, and postfix are also included.  For a small office, WS
is pretty good - no FTP server or named, but other than that you're
pretty close to everything you could want.  You've got ssh, sql, and web
servers, and you could use zoneedit or something like that for your dns.
If you want an ftp or dns server, you can add that easily enough.
 
 I'm not saying the WS version is a bad prodcut...it just isn't the
 same as the old RHL.

I'm suspecting that we'll like the new product more than the old RHL
product, but of course we'll both have to wait and see what the pricing
is like and what the rest of the details are.

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Re: Linux reading FAT32 partitions

2003-10-05 Thread Bo Peng
On Sun, Oct 05, 2003 at 08:39:44PM -0600, KC wrote:
 Can i partition a drive multiple times? Like partitioning a FAT32 
 120gb
 drive, into 3 32gb partitions, is that a possible workaround? Or can linux
 only read one  FAT32 parition. And do I need to install an RPM for FAT32
 support?

Sure. Each Fat32 parition can be at most 32G but you can have multiple 
partitions on your mobile harddrive. For example,

If you use parted: (You can actually format the drive under windows if 
you prefer).
 parted /dev/sda(sda is your mobile harddrive. use sfdisk  -l to check.)
 mkpart primary fat32 0 100 
.. more mkpart fat32 ...

then insert entries in /etc/fstab like

/dev/sda1  /mnt/share1 vfatuser,noauto,utf8 0 0
/dev/sda2  /mnt/share2 vfatuser,noauto,utf8 0 0

and mount the drive as 
 mount /dev/sda1 

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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Michael Schwendt
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2003 22:33:14 -0400 (EDT), Gerry Doris wrote:

 http://www.redhat.com/software/workstation/

 I'm sure you'll correct me if I'm wrong but the workstation version is NOT
 equal to the old Redhat Linux.  It sounds like the WS version is missing
 all of the server functionality that was in RHL.  It also costs $179USD
 which seems high compared to the boxed version of other distros like SuSE.

You're mistaking Red Hat Professional Workstation with Red Hat
Enterprise Linux WS (Basic Edition).


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Re: red hat 10 release date

2003-10-05 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 20:48 10/5/2003, you wrote:
It's not missing all of the server applications, even if it's identical
to RHEL WS.  Here's the list of server apps that I took from the taroon beta:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ grep server up2date.showall.ws
mysql-server-3.23.58-1.i386
openssh-server-3.6.1p2-18.i386
rh-postgresql-server-7.3.4-4.i386
rsh-server-0.17-17.i386
rusers-server-0.17-31.1.i386
telnet-server-0.17-26.i386
vnc-server-4.0-0.beta4.1.1.i386
httpd, sendmail, and postfix are also included.  For a small office, WS
is pretty good - no FTP server or named, but other than that you're
pretty close to everything you could want.
Named as a caching nameserver is something I wish were included. No, it 
doesn't really belong in a standard workstation, but for those of using it 
as a SOHO single workstation/server it'd be great. As just a bit more idle 
speculation, I wonder whether you can up2date bind once RHPW is 
installed? I don't see why not...

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How to integrate all systems?

2003-10-05 Thread Test Admin
Dear all, I have NT, Solaris, OS/2, VAX/VMS and also RH8
My question is, how to make those system integrated in one domain.
I want to administrate them in single server.

Thx a lot.
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Re: How to integrate all systems?

2003-10-05 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 22:12 10/5/2003, you wrote:
Dear all, I have NT, Solaris, OS/2, VAX/VMS and also RH8
My question is, how to make those system integrated in one domain.
I want to administrate them in single server.
Zen: In order to understand the answer, you must already know the answer.

So, either you go out and spend many thousands of dollars on high-end 
management software like Tivoli, or there is no way to do what you want. 
(And even if you spend many thousands of dollars, I am not sure if there is 
a way to do what you want.)

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RE: How to integrate all systems?

2003-10-05 Thread Test Admin
Thanks, btw we need the cheapest solution..SAMBA isn't good enoug for this ? I just 
want using RH as the domain controller, but I'm still not clear enough using SAMBA at 
other platforms side.Need your help.

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From: Rodolfo J. Paiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 11:51 AM
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Subject: Re: How to integrate all systems?


At 22:12 10/5/2003, you wrote:
Dear all, I have NT, Solaris, OS/2, VAX/VMS and also RH8
My question is, how to make those system integrated in one domain. I 
want to administrate them in single server.

Zen: In order to understand the answer, you must already know the answer.

So, either you go out and spend many thousands of dollars on high-end 
management software like Tivoli, or there is no way to do what you want. 
(And even if you spend many thousands of dollars, I am not sure if there is 
a way to do what you want.)


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Problems printing from Windows 2000 PCs

2003-10-05 Thread Des Dougan
I have a problem printing from 2 Windows 2000 PCs to a Lexmark 3200
inkjet printer attached to my RH 9 PC. The RH 9 box is using KDE, and is
a fairly default configuration otherwise. I can successfully print from
Win9x and from another Linux PC, but the 2 W2K boxes won't print,
although they are able to see the printer via their printer settings
dialogs.

In the /var/spool/samba directory, I can see files spooled by the PCs,
however they are only 96 bytes, no matter what is printed. They are
obviously not being passed from SAMBA to CUPS, as it is only the W2K
spool files which sit there. When I try to print, the W2K machines go to
100% CPU and eventually have to be restarted, as killing the runaway
task doesn't clear the hang.

I have checked the archives and have checked my smb.conf and cups
configuration files. I also went as far as adding the two PC users as
SAMBA users on the RH box, although I do have the guest setting in
smb.conf enabled. 

Since the non-W2K boxes can print, I would imagine that this is a
permissions issue, but from everything I've checked (SAMBA and CUPS),
all appropriate permissions are granted.

I'm obviously missing something, but I can't see what, and would
appreciate any pointers.

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RE: How to integrate all systems?

2003-10-05 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 22:58 10/5/2003, you wrote:
Thanks, btw we need the cheapest solution..SAMBA isn't good enoug for this 
? I just want using RH as the domain controller, but I'm still not clear 
enough using SAMBA at other platforms side.Need your help.
If you need the cheapest solution, sell all that stuff and get things that 
are all the same. Or do it by hand.

Is there any authentication mechanism which all those OS's support, anyway? 
How in the hell are you going to get Linux, OS/2, VAX/VMS, WinNT, et al. 
together? Every single one of them has a different security model. And why 
are you doing all this?

If you haven't realized this by now, there is no way I can help you... I 
have no knowledge of how to do this, and my current limited level of 
knowledge would suggest that it probably can't be done at all. I'm just 
curious as to why you're embarking on such an ambitious quest with 
(apparently) so little knowledge to start.

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