Re: Mail server on Redhat Linux

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Marques
El Jue 11 Sep 2003 09:50, Peram's List escribió:
 Hi,
 Im looking to setup a mail server. I'd appreciate if you can let me know
 what are all the software that I need to know to set up an IMAP/POP
 server. I have the option of setting up Exchange but I dont want to do
 that, I'm looking for a groupware software on Redhat.

Just the link!
http://www.opengroupware.org/

 I know that Postfix is a good MTA software. I'd appreciate your comments
 and suggestions and any good links to setting up a mail server on
 Redhat.

rpm -Uvh postfix-xx.rpm

After that, go to http://www.postfix.org and read the docs and examples.

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Re: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3

2003-04-01 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 16:29, Edward Dekkers wrote:

 From memory you can just type IMAP instead of POP3 there? Or am I
 misunderstanding your question?
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Depends on the version of Outlook Express - most versions allow you to
choose an IMAP server along with heaps others - including HTTP...
But hey, it's Micr$loth - who knows...

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RE: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3 --Solved!

2003-04-01 Thread Gavin Mellors
I seemed to have solved my problem.

And having solved the problem I can re-state my original question better!

1) Sendmail was sending mail out of my domain ok.
2) But not sending to local accounts in the domain.
3) No mail was being received for any account in the domain

I had not set up the domain for wich my mail server is responsible.
 in VER 5.2 it was set in   /etc/mail/sendmail.?
In version 8.0 it is set in /etc/mail/local-host-names

Thanks for the input.
My first time on any mailing list and I am impressed by what
can be achieved, with everone contributing. The sum of the parts etc...

Great Stuff.

Gavin




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On Tue, 2003-04-01 at 16:29, Edward Dekkers wrote:

 From memory you can just type IMAP instead of POP3 there? Or am I
 misunderstanding your question?
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 Edward Dekkers (Director)

Depends on the version of Outlook Express - most versions allow you to
choose an IMAP server along with heaps others - including HTTP...
But hey, it's Micr$loth - who knows...

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Re: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3

2003-03-31 Thread Ben Russo
Gavin Mellors wrote:

Hi All

I am managing a mail server (midterm newbie).
Server is an Intel Brownsville m/board, 256K Ram.
Clients all using O/Express to get mail of POP server.
Previous version of Redhat 5.2 and 7.0; had a special user group popuser.
When running userconf I could create my users as mail only accounts.
when adding accounts I could select this group as there default group.
Mail was delivered to there folders wich they could access from their
Win98 w/stations using
outlook express.
 

You can do something similar with the box by setting up either 
/bin/false as their shell
or setting /bin/rbash (RESTRICTED shell) and configuring their 
environment with just
the ability to change their password.

The popuser group is'nt present in Linux 8.0 ??

I created a popuser group, and added my users to this group as there default
group.
My users are not receiving mail??. Postmaster(me) is getting error reports :
MAIL UNDELIVERABLE ... reason 553 5.3.5 system config error.
 

By default on RedHat Linux 8.0 Sendmail only listens on 127.0.0.1
Try running netstat -nap | grep LISTEN | grep 25 and see if there is a 
line in there for sendmail
on either 0.0.0.0 or your LAN NIC address, if not edit 
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc and then follow
the instructions in the comments for both enabling sendmail on the LAN 
NIC and using m4 to
convert your sendmail.mc into a sendmail.cf

Mail is leaving server. Not being recieved by my users.

I am finding the transition from RedHat 5.2 and Redhat 7.0 to version 8.0
extremely frustrating.
...up2date spends +- hour getting RPMS, and then bombs out with bad CRC,
(64k leased diginet line connection).
RedHat had problems today because of their release of the RedHat 9 iso's 
and their
bandwidth was jammed.  You might have better luck tomorrow.  In my 
experience
using up2date is a breeze, and a joy.

...IPOP3 service as registered with XINETD is off by default.(Thought I
had solved my prob. when Ifound this one.
The command line network config tools, well where are they. I have
edited (/etc/network) to set
   up address details. (From within XWindows the network config is easy).
What happened to netconf
 

Try neat instead.  I think it is much better.

Also, take a look at IMAP.
You might like that better than POP.
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RE: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3

2003-03-31 Thread Gavin Mellors
Thanks for that Info w.r netstat, Ben, will try it.
Will seek out neat as well.

With regards IMAP, I did consider it, but how do I set up my outlook
express clients to receive there mail using IMAP ?
Under my clients O/Express-Account settings-Connection-server
types-incoming server: only POP3 (PORT 110) option is availible
Does IMAP also use port 110 ??

I am using SWAT to manage my samba installation, what a pleasure.
On my RedHat 7.0 installation I had Inflex mail scanner/mimeripper
installed, also a pleasure
to work with.

Regards
Gavin

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Gavin Mellors wrote:

Hi All

I am managing a mail server (midterm newbie).
Server is an Intel Brownsville m/board, 256K Ram.
Clients all using O/Express to get mail of POP server.

Previous version of Redhat 5.2 and 7.0; had a special user group popuser.
When running userconf I could create my users as mail only accounts.
when adding accounts I could select this group as there default group.
Mail was delivered to there folders wich they could access from their
Win98 w/stations using
outlook express.


You can do something similar with the box by setting up either
/bin/false as their shell
or setting /bin/rbash (RESTRICTED shell) and configuring their
environment with just
the ability to change their password.

The popuser group is'nt present in Linux 8.0 ??

I created a popuser group, and added my users to this group as there
default
group.

My users are not receiving mail??. Postmaster(me) is getting error reports
:
MAIL UNDELIVERABLE ... reason 553 5.3.5 system config error.


By default on RedHat Linux 8.0 Sendmail only listens on 127.0.0.1
Try running netstat -nap | grep LISTEN | grep 25 and see if there is a
line in there for sendmail
on either 0.0.0.0 or your LAN NIC address, if not edit
/etc/mail/sendmail.mc and then follow
the instructions in the comments for both enabling sendmail on the LAN
NIC and using m4 to
convert your sendmail.mc into a sendmail.cf

Mail is leaving server. Not being recieved by my users.

I am finding the transition from RedHat 5.2 and Redhat 7.0 to version 8.0
extremely frustrating.
...up2date spends +- hour getting RPMS, and then bombs out with bad CRC,
(64k leased diginet line connection).

RedHat had problems today because of their release of the RedHat 9 iso's
and their
bandwidth was jammed.  You might have better luck tomorrow.  In my
experience
using up2date is a breeze, and a joy.

...IPOP3 service as registered with XINETD is off by default.(Thought I
had solved my prob. when Ifound this one.
The command line network config tools, well where are they. I have
edited (/etc/network) to set
up address details. (From within XWindows the network config is easy).
What happened to netconf


Try neat instead.  I think it is much better.

Also, take a look at IMAP.
You might like that better than POP.

-Ben.




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Re: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3

2003-03-31 Thread Edward Dekkers
 With regards IMAP, I did consider it, but how do I set up my outlook
 express clients to receive there mail using IMAP ?
 Under my clients O/Express-Account settings-Connection-server
 types-incoming server: only POP3 (PORT 110) option is availible
 Does IMAP also use port 110 ??

From memory you can just type IMAP instead of POP3 there? Or am I
misunderstanding your question?

Regards,

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RE: Mail Server - Sendmail + IPOP3

2003-03-31 Thread Gavin Mellors
Hi Edward

You are right, when setting up a new mail account with outlook express
the option of pop3, imap or http protocols are presented in a drop
down list
by the wizard; under select INCOMING MAIL SERVER.  Will try this!

With an existing account, it does'nt seem to be able to changed, hence my
question.
I am sure if I poke around in the registry I will find the incoming server
option for
the mail account and maybe I can change it there!!

Thanks for the help.
Gavin


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 With regards IMAP, I did consider it, but how do I set up my outlook
 express clients to receive there mail using IMAP ?
 Under my clients O/Express-Account settings-Connection-server
 types-incoming server: only POP3 (PORT 110) option is availible
 Does IMAP also use port 110 ??

From memory you can just type IMAP instead of POP3 there? Or am I
misunderstanding your question?

Regards,

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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Francisco Neira
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Christian Campbell wrote:
| I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
| I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
| our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use
postfix or
| sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of
these?
| I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some
type of
| spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
| integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!
|
| Christian
|
SNIP
Hello,

I am not an email expert either but I had used Postfix with AMaViS,
SpamAssassin, F-prot and Horde/IMP for webmail with *very* good results.
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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread nate
Christian Campbell said:
 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix
 or sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of
 these? I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some
 type of spam catching with some type of package (open source, free /
 cheep) that integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!


I've used sendmail 8.8.x, 8.9.x,  8.11.x as well as Postfix 1.1.x, and
qmail(forgot the version). postfix is my favorite. It is fairly simple
to configure, pretty secure, and has a ton of anti spam stuff built
right in. I stopped using sendmail since it was getting increasingly
complicated, and to bugs in the bleeding edge debian packages about
a year ago when I tried to migrate from 8.11.x to 8.12.x.

Currently my main setup is Postfix+LDAP+Spamassassin+Sanitizer, I have
setup other systems with Postfix+LDAP+amavis, and I spent probably
a hundred hours going through spam messages over the past year or so
writing filters for postfix's regexp header checker. Newer versions
of postfix can check the body of messages as well. Integration of
spamassassin with postfix was easy, for me at least. It wasn't as
simple as dropping in a script and having it run but by my experience
it was easy(easy in comparison to spending a full day tryin to get
sendmail 8.12.x to compile/configure with amavis). My first try
it probably took an hour, which including fetching newer versions
of spamassassin, sanitizer and libnet-smtp I think it was, configuring
it, and testing it.

Running spamassassin+sanitizer on all messages DRAMATICALLY increases
the load on the system. Probably by a factor of 500 or more. My home
mail server is a p3-800 1GB ram with dual 100GB WD(8mb cache) drives
in raid1, and it takes on average 3-5 seconds to deliver a message,
it can take much longer if the message is really big. If you were to
put virus scanning on top of that, add another 2-3 seconds per message
depending on your system. There is a way of reducing load by using
the spamd(?) spamassasin daemon but I still hear there are some
potential security issues with it, so i haven't tried it.

but by itself, with no addons whatsoever postfix has a ton of ways
to reduce spam. Most of which cannot be used on high traffic mailservers
since it creates a very high number of false positives unfortunately.

I just started using postfix as my primary MTA almost a year ago.

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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Joe Polk
You'll get lots of advise. I like sendmail. It's easy to configure too.
You can use Webmin also to make it even easier. You can cut down on spam
by using rbl's and/or add SpamAssassin.

JAV

On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 13:55, Christian Campbell wrote:
 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of these?
 I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some type of
 spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!
 
 Christian
 
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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Ed Wilts
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:55:20PM -0500, Christian Campbell wrote:
 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of these?
 I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some type of
 spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!

We run sendmail at work with dozens of domains and tens of thousands of
messages per day spread over 2 Linux systems.  Those servers then fire
the external mail into 2 internal Linux servers, also running sendmail,
which in turn feed out to the rest of the internal systems.  The stuff
just works.

At home I run sendmail supporting 3 very small domains and mostly
mailing list and personal mail.  It works just fine.

sendmail is not hard to configure, and in its current form is fairly
secure.  

There are multiple anti-spam options in both postfix and sendmail and I
don't believe that either is better in this regard.  Blackhole sites are
your first level of defense, followed by things like spamassassin
(may be acceptable for home use but not for an enterprise) and
anti-virus tools.  Postfix rules finish off the filtering.

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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
On Fri, 2003-02-28 at 12:55, Christian Campbell wrote:
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of these?

Either/or is fine. I've heard postfix is fast, secure, and easy to use
and configure. Sendmail has always worked well for me too. Cryptic
configuration, but works well.

I personally advise you to stay the hell away from qmail. Fast and
secure, yes. But if you so much as sneeze you have to recompile,
POP-before-SMTP and SMTP AUTH are only available as add-on patches, and
the mailing list is snotty and unfriendly as hell. Sheesh.

 I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some type of
 spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!

I've just started looking at how spamassassin works, and hope to have it
implemented soon. It's included in RedHat 8.0, too. Heard wonderful
things about it.

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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Deleo Paulo Ribeiro Junior
 Christian Campbell wrote:
 | I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 | I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world
as
 | our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use
 postfix or
 | sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of
 these?
 | I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some
 type of
 | spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 | integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!
 |
 | Christian
 |

Hello!

I am using sendmail and except for some little problems that I have with
firewall (I am trying to solve them and I probably will) everything works
fine.

You can use sendmail to receive and send mail to and from the world.

You have to set the MX point at DNS to you domain and to avoid SPAM you must
put something like this in the the file /etc/mail/access:

localhost.localdomain   RELAY
localhost   RELAY
127.0.0.1   RELAY
200.19.109  RELAY


200.19.109 is the ip class I use. You must use yours.


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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Jeffrey Tadlock
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 01:55:20PM -0500, Christian Campbell wrote:
 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of these?
 I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some type of
 spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!


I cast my vote to Postfix.  Easy to understand configuration
files and a lot of UCE filtering capabilities built right in .
In addition the Postfix mailing list is a fairly friendly list
when asking a question.

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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread gabriel
sendmail is great.  it's what handles most of the world's mail and there's a 
reason for it.  configurability and security used to be issues with it, but 
it's been solid for a long time now.

On February 28, 2003 01:55 pm, Christian Campbell wrote:
 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of
 these? I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some
 type of spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep)
 that integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!

 Christian

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 Information Technology Department - Systems
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Re: Mail Server

2003-02-28 Thread Jonathan Bartlett
I like Postfix.  Postfix is:

super-easy to configure

very secure (Wietse Venema is one of the security gurus)

supported by IBM

very, very fast

compatible with Sendmail alias files and command-line

Jon

On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Christian Campbell wrote:

 I have intermediate experience with Linux.  Even less with mail servers.
 I'm running a RedHat 8 server that needs to accept mail from the world as
 our primary mailserver.  I'm debating as to whether I should use postfix or
 sendmail (or something else).  Anyone have any pros/cons to either of these?
 I'd like something simple, secure and have the option of doing some type of
 spam catching with some type of package (open source, free / cheep) that
 integrates easily.  Any and all help appreciated!

 Christian

 Christian P. Campbell
 Systems Engineer
 Information Technology Department - Systems
 Bruegger's Enterprises
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Re: Mail server(SIMS) virus scanning

2003-02-03 Thread Joshua Schmidlkofer
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 18:58, tugsuu wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I need a mail server virus scanning software. We use a SIMS(Sun 
 Internet Mail Server) on Solaris 7 on Intel platform. I have tryed 
 several virus scanning software for Solaris 7. But all of them are for 
 Solaris on sparc paltform.
 Please help me to find a mail server virus scanning software./works with 
 sims on solaris on inte lplatform/
 Thank you for attention,
 
 tugsuu
 

Put a linux box in front of your mail server, and use Sophos, or McAfee,
or Panda, or something.


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Re: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-13 Thread Gerry Doris
 RH7.2, kernel-2.4.18-19.7, sendmail-8.11.6-3

 I installed MailScanner and F-Prot from the rpm's, and it seemed to go
 without any problem.  Here is what I don't understand.

 Razor, spamsassassin, and MailScanner all seem to check for spam.  Are
 they  different and should all be used?  If so, why?

 Thanks.

 Irwin

Razor is an excellent database of spam that spamassassin can use to check
incoming mail against.  Spamassassin is a superb program based on a set of
rules to provide points (demerits) to a message depending on how many of
the spam identification rules it matches.  You then set a threshold and
screen out messages that exceed the threshold.

Think of MailScanner as a high level manager of the process.  MailScanner
uses sendmail to receive your messages into an incoming queue.  It then
calls whatever virus scanning engines you've installed to check the
messages for virii.  While it will do its own spam scanning it is
recommneded that you use spamassassin.  MailScanner integrates seamlessly
with it.

If a virus is found MailScanner will do what you want with it (ie
quarintine the message, strip the virus and deliver the message, etc).  If
the message is to be delivered MailScanner dumps it into the outgoing
queue for sendmail for delivery to its final host destination.

In short, yes you should install and use them all.  They compliment each
other.

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Re: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-13 Thread irwin
On Monday 13 January 2003 07:00 am, you wrote:


 In short, yes you should install and use them all.  They compliment each
 other.

 Gerry

Thank you.  Since installing MailScanner less than 24 hours ago, it has 
already been working hard.

I will install Razor and Spamassassin.


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Re: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-12 Thread Gerry Doris
On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Michael George wrote:

 I have a friend who has asked me to help them replace the Windoze2000 server
 in their office with a Linux system.  While they aren't using 2000 as a mail
 server, they will be with Linux.  They asked me about virus scanning incoming
 email on the server and I've never done that before...
 
 I've found several projects at freshmeat that claim to work with sendmail and
 do virus scanning.  I was hoping maybe some of the users on this list could
 give me their recommendations to help me narrow the search.
 
 We'll be using a POP3 server for the windoze clients to get their mail and
 sendmail for receiving incoming mail.  Initially the server will be for
 internal mail only, but eventually, the ISP will be the initial recipient of
 all company mail and then throw it over the wall to the internal sendmail
 server (which will only accept SMTP connections from internal hosts or the
 single IP address outside.  If this makes a difference...
 
 Thanks for all your 2¢-worth (in advance :)
 
 -Michael

I suggest that you make sure you have your mail server working properly.  
Next install razor and then spamassassin.  Those should go in very easily.  
This will take care of flagging spam.  Next you should check out 
MailScanner.

MailScanner works seamlessly with all of the above.  It doesn't require 
any changes to sendmail/Exim and can be installed with an rpm.  You will 
need to select a virus engine and MailScanner works with about a dozen of 
them.  I highly recommend F-Prot.

F-Prot is free for home/non-commerical use and for commercial users only
charges per server.  The other virus scanners charge per seat and it can
get very expensive.  They update their virus files every few days and 
MailScanner provides a cron script to download them automatically.

There's also a great mailscanner-mrtg rpm that will allow you to view 
several graphs of your setup using your web browser.  You can see server 
load, # of messages arriving, size of messages, ethernet traffic, cpu %, 
etc.  This is for each day, week, month, and year.

This may sound like a lot of work but if you do it one step at a time it 
pretty easy.

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Re: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-12 Thread Aly Dharshi
I have found that using Exiscan with Exim as well as the Sophie/Sophos
Antivirus combination on the relays has been a wonderful tool to stop
this virus menance. As well as using Spamassassin as a tool is wonderful
but I don't know how well Razor works anymore it used to be a big thing
but its now something that is up in the air.

Cheers,

Aly.

On Sun, 2003-01-12 at 13:33, Gerry Doris wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Jan 2003, Michael George wrote:
 
  I have a friend who has asked me to help them replace the Windoze2000 server
  in their office with a Linux system.  While they aren't using 2000 as a mail
  server, they will be with Linux.  They asked me about virus scanning incoming
  email on the server and I've never done that before...
  
  I've found several projects at freshmeat that claim to work with sendmail and
  do virus scanning.  I was hoping maybe some of the users on this list could
  give me their recommendations to help me narrow the search.
  
  We'll be using a POP3 server for the windoze clients to get their mail and
  sendmail for receiving incoming mail.  Initially the server will be for
  internal mail only, but eventually, the ISP will be the initial recipient of
  all company mail and then throw it over the wall to the internal sendmail
  server (which will only accept SMTP connections from internal hosts or the
  single IP address outside.  If this makes a difference...
  
  Thanks for all your 2¢-worth (in advance :)
  
  -Michael
 
 I suggest that you make sure you have your mail server working properly.  
 Next install razor and then spamassassin.  Those should go in very easily.  
 This will take care of flagging spam.  Next you should check out 
 MailScanner.
 
 MailScanner works seamlessly with all of the above.  It doesn't require 
 any changes to sendmail/Exim and can be installed with an rpm.  You will 
 need to select a virus engine and MailScanner works with about a dozen of 
 them.  I highly recommend F-Prot.
 
 F-Prot is free for home/non-commerical use and for commercial users only
 charges per server.  The other virus scanners charge per seat and it can
 get very expensive.  They update their virus files every few days and 
 MailScanner provides a cron script to download them automatically.
 
 There's also a great mailscanner-mrtg rpm that will allow you to view 
 several graphs of your setup using your web browser.  You can see server 
 load, # of messages arriving, size of messages, ethernet traffic, cpu %, 
 etc.  This is for each day, week, month, and year.
 
 This may sound like a lot of work but if you do it one step at a time it 
 pretty easy.
 
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RE: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-12 Thread Michael Pelley
Mailscanner - www.mailscanner.info You need your own Antivirus (e.g.,
Sophos, McAfee, F-Prot, etc).  It also does SPAM.

Mike


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Subject: mail server virus scanning


I have a friend who has asked me to help them replace the Windoze2000 server
in their office with a Linux system.  While they aren't using 2000 as a mail
server, they will be with Linux.  They asked me about virus scanning
incoming
email on the server and I've never done that before...

I've found several projects at freshmeat that claim to work with sendmail
and
do virus scanning.  I was hoping maybe some of the users on this list could
give me their recommendations to help me narrow the search.

We'll be using a POP3 server for the windoze clients to get their mail and
sendmail for receiving incoming mail.  Initially the server will be for
internal mail only, but eventually, the ISP will be the initial recipient of
all company mail and then throw it over the wall to the internal sendmail
server (which will only accept SMTP connections from internal hosts or the
single IP address outside.  If this makes a difference...

Thanks for all your 2¢-worth (in advance :)

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Re: mail server virus scanning

2003-01-12 Thread irwin
On Sunday 12 January 2003 12:33 pm, you wrote:
~
 I suggest that you make sure you have your mail server working properly.
 Next install razor and then spamsassassin.  Those should go in very easily.
 This will take care of flagging spam.  Next you should check out
 MailScanner.

 MailScanner works seamlessly with all of the above.  It doesn't require
 any changes to sendmail/Exim and can be installed with an rpm.  You will
 need to select a virus engine and MailScanner works with about a dozen of
 them.  I highly recommend F-Prot.

 F-Prot is free for home/non-commerical use and for commercial users only
 charges per server.  The other virus scanners charge per seat and it can
 get very expensive.  They update their virus files every few days and
 MailScanner provides a cron script to download them automatically.


RH7.2, kernel-2.4.18-19.7, sendmail-8.11.6-3

I installed MailScanner and F-Prot from the rpm's, and it seemed to go 
without any problem.  Here is what I don't understand.

Razor, spamsassassin, and MailScanner all seem to check for spam.  Are they 
different and should all be used?  If so, why?

Thanks.   

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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-14 Thread Jake Colman

EW - fetchmail on the Linux system gets the mail from the ISP.  I
EW   schedule
EW   this via cron.
EW - MTA (sendmail in my case)
EW - Fetchmail can automatically kick things over to sendmail
EW - Sendmail automatically runs procmail
EW - Procmail does my filtering.
EW - On the Windows desktops I use Eudora (POP3) and OE (Imap).  My wife's
EW   system is Eudora with POP3 (Eudora is a great POP client but a shitty
EW   IMAP client).  I use OE for IMAP (I'd use Eudora if it could).  My
EW   reason for IMAP is that I read my mail both from Linux via ssh and
EW   from my XP desktop. With procmail, my mailing list e-mail is automatically
EW   filed into folders - something that works with IMAP but not POP3.

EW On my Linux system, I run my DNS and time server.  Sendmail is
EW configured to allow relaying while the network is down so that we can
EW send e-mail if my cable connection is unavailable - sendmail nicely
EW delivers the mail with the link comes back up.  This would work for
EW you
EW - just have sendmail process the queue in your ifup script.

Ed,

Are you fetching from a single ISP mailbox?  Does that mailbox contain mail
for multiple users on your home network?

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RE: Mail Server for home network [THANKS]

2002-11-06 Thread Roland Hill
Well, assuming I actually do work out how to implement all this, I am settled on:

- Fetchmail
- Postfix (thanks to comments regarding this one)
- Procmail

I'm not set on how to achieve dial on demand functionality. Might pick up on advice 
from Edward Dekkers to use a combination of wvdial and pppd, although diald looks good 
in principle.

Lastly, delivery to the win boxes requires more research on my part, using advice 
received to date from the list. I suspect google will get a fair bit of use in the 
next few days.

Thanks for your interest.

Roland.

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On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:33:47PM +1300 or thereabouts, Roland Hill wrote:
 Thanks to those who replied. You knowledgeable types really do make a difference to 
those of us who are trying to get up to speed.
 
 Now for the implementation phase.

Well, what did you finally select ? g
 

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Re: Mail Server for home network [THANKS]

2002-11-06 Thread Edward Dekkers
 I'm not set on how to achieve dial on demand functionality. Might pick up
on advice from Edward Dekkers to use a combination of wvdial and pppd,
although diald looks good in principle.

Like I said, don't get me wrong - I LOVE diald.

Just haven't been able to get it working on recent versions of RedHat. If
you manage to get it working (worth a shot), I'd love your notes on how you
did it.

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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-05 Thread Hella

Do you have a static IP with your dial-up connection? You need a static 
so that you can point the MX record for your domain to your Linux box. 
(unless you are queing the mail somewhere else and sucking it downstream)

Once past this hurdle, it is pretty straight forward: Configure your MTA 
to allow your Win98 systems to relay, configure your MTA with your 
domain(s) (which domains it will accept for delivery). Configure your 
pop3 service to start at boot or whatever you plan to use.

If you look at the contents of /etc/mail, using the sendmail.mc macro 
file, building a working sendmail.cf has gotten pretty easy. Also, I am 
sure there are a boatload of HOWTO's out there if you search on google.

Hope this helps,
CC



Roland Hill wrote:
Hi List,

Being a new user, I would appreciate if you could kick me in the right direction on the following issue.

My simple peer to peer network consists of 1 x RH7.3 box and 2 x Win98 boxes. SAMBA is configured and operational.

I have a dial up, single account with my ISP. Simplistically, I would like to receive email, filter the content, then direct the email to the end user based on the filtering rules. I would also like to be able send email internally from user to user (my wife  I may never speak again!!).

I have done some research and I think the following, once configured, will work, but as Linux is so configurable, advice from the List would be appreciated.

Pieces to my puzzle as I see it are:

-Diald to have dial on demand functionality with the modem
-Fetchmail to get the mail
-MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail etc) to deliver
-Promail to do the filtering
-qpopper to allow the win box users to receive the messages 

Again, input on the architecture would be appreciated. If some applications are more new user friendly than others then please advise. If there are HOW-to's (I have some already), then kick me in that direction too.

Appreciate your input.

Regards,

Roland Hill

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RE: Mail Server for home network [THANKS]

2002-11-05 Thread Roland Hill
Thanks to those who replied. You knowledgeable types really do make a difference to 
those of us who are trying to get up to speed.

Now for the implementation phase.

Regards,

Roland Hill

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Re: Mail Server for home network [THANKS]

2002-11-05 Thread Gary
On Wed, Nov 06, 2002 at 05:33:47PM +1300 or thereabouts, Roland Hill wrote:
 Thanks to those who replied. You knowledgeable types really do make a difference to 
those of us who are trying to get up to speed.
 
 Now for the implementation phase.

Well, what did you finally select ? g
 

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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-04 Thread Kent Borg
[Oops, in my first attempt at sending this I didn't use my subscribed
address.  Second try...]


On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:45:06AM +1300, Roland Hill wrote:
 -MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail etc) to deliver
 [...]
 If some applications are more new user friendly than others then
 please advise.

I have been using qmail for sometime now, and as everyone says it is a
bit odd to set up and documentation can be confusing, and it seems to
work well.  The only problems I have had have been someplace other
than in qmail itself.  So far, so good.

However, I suggest you look carefully at postfix before going with
qmail.  I have heard it is comparable and as safe as qmail, but the
real win is that I think postfix is included in RH distributions now.
It is a pain to have a non-standard installation where I have to get
parts from someplace else.  And then when I have a problem I have to
wonder whether I have the current version and did I apply that
third-party patch to qmail, or was that to ezmlm...?

Note that though qmail isn't that bad to install in the first place, a
year from when you need to figure out something new you will be
annoyed to have to remember what you got from where and where you put
it.  When you know you have, say, Red Hat 7.3 (a good rev, IMHO), that
little 7.3 is a really nice summary of the state of your machine.
Put something major like a different mta on there and you have made a
major divergence that is something you then have to maintain.  If
postfix is as good, or nearly as good, as qmail, then I say it wins
because of the more practical license.


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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-04 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:45:06AM +1300, Roland Hill wrote:
 My simple peer to peer network consists of 1 x RH7.3 box and 2 x Win98 boxes. SAMBA 
is configured and operational.
 
 I have a dial up, single account with my ISP. Simplistically, I would like to 
receive email, filter the content, then direct the email to the end user based on the 
filtering rules. I would also like to be able send email internally from user to 
user (my wife  I may never speak again!!).
 
 I have done some research and I think the following, once configured, will work, but 
as Linux is so configurable, advice from the List would be appreciated.
 
 Pieces to my puzzle as I see it are:
 
 -Diald to have dial on demand functionality with the modem
 -Fetchmail to get the mail
 -MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail etc) to deliver
 -Promail to do the filtering
 -qpopper to allow the win box users to receive the messages 
 
 Again, input on the architecture would be appreciated. If some applications are 
more new user friendly than others then please advise. If there are HOW-to's (I have 
some already), then kick me in that direction too.

I don't have any experience with diald so I'll avoid that step.  My home
setup is permanent and I grab e-mail from both my local server as well
as my ISPs.
- fetchmail on the Linux system gets the mail from the ISP.  I schedule
  this via cron.
- MTA (sendmail in my case)
- Fetchmail can automatically kick things over to sendmail
- Sendmail automatically runs procmail
- Procmail does my filtering.
- On the Windows desktops I use Eudora (POP3) and OE (Imap).  My wife's
  system is Eudora with POP3 (Eudora is a great POP client but a shitty
  IMAP client).  I use OE for IMAP (I'd use Eudora if it could).  My
  reason for IMAP is that I read my mail both from Linux via ssh and
  from my XP desktop. With procmail, my mailing list e-mail is automatically
  filed into folders - something that works with IMAP but not POP3.

On my Linux system, I run my DNS and time server.  Sendmail is
configured to allow relaying while the network is down so that we can
send e-mail if my cable connection is unavailable - sendmail nicely
delivers the mail with the link comes back up.  This would work for you
- just have sendmail process the queue in your ifup script.

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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-04 Thread Gary
On Tue, Nov 05, 2002 at 09:45:06AM +1300 or thereabouts, Roland Hill wrote:
 
 Being a new user, I would appreciate if you could kick me in the right direction on 
the following issue.
 
 I have a dial up, single account with my ISP. Simplistically, I would like to 
receive email, filter the content, then direct the email to the end user based on the 
filtering rules. I would also like to be able send email internally from user to 
user (my wife  I may never speak again!!).
 
 -MTA (sendmail, postfix, qmail etc) to deliver
 -Promail to do the filtering
 -qpopper to allow the win box users to receive the messages 

The only thing I can add, after using Sendmail, Postfix, and now qmail, is
that in your situation Postfix would be easiest to set up and run for your
needs..  Qmail is my favorite, and I use that, but it is made for
full-time, connectivity, and you would need the serialmail patch first for
your dialup...  In Postfix, you would need just your smarthost for your
SMTP relay, which would be your ISPs address, that's just about it. It
will hold you mail for delivery in queue  until you are on line, then you
could do a postfix flush to get it out quickly.  The 1 or 2 changes you
would need in Postfix, is done in one file, the main.cf file.. That's it.
It would handle all your LAN and WAN mail without a problem and with
security.  It is modular, and faster than the monolithic Sendmail, IMO.

www.postfix.org  or  www.lifewithqmail.org

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Re: Mail Server for home network

2002-11-04 Thread Edward Dekkers
 -Diald to have dial on demand functionality with the modem

OK, every man and his dog has tackled your main problems, I'll tackle this
one.

I used diald way back on 5.2 and loved it. Upgraded to 6.0, 6.1, 6.2 and it
broke at every step and I had to change heaps of configuration. I haven't
managed to run it properly since then. At the time when I was struggling
with the 7.x setup (and gave up), diald didn't seem to be maintained any
more. If it has been picked up again - terrific. If not - dump it. It really
is VERY hard to get right (never used to be but you get that).

I now use wvdial and pppd combination on it's own.

pppd has dial-on-demand capabilities built in to it, and there are heaps of
documents on the web to assist  you.

Admittedly it has no-where near the flexibility of diald but it does work
flawlessly.

I miss my filters though. It was great how with diald you could set which
individual protocols kept the link up and for how long etc. pppd doesn't
support that.

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Re: Mail server in Red Hat Linux

2002-10-25 Thread Alan Peery
senthil wrote:


Read the HOWtos of Fetchmail and Sendmail before u start off then it will be
easy !!

 

try also man fetchmail, and look inside there for info on 
fetchmailconf, a handy configuration utility.

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RE: Mail server in Red Hat Linux

2002-10-24 Thread Banze, Andreas
 Is it possible? 
 How?

look for fetchmail



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RE: Mail server in Red Hat Linux

2002-10-24 Thread aljuhani
Yes it is possible.  What you are doing is called a catch-all mail account 
that accept all emails and forward them to one account admin in your case.  
You will need a software that access the admin account and download messages 
and copy according to user to users folder.  Fetchmail is a good software that 
is used usually to fetch email to your server from a remote server but I think 
it should work for local.  Check the link below:

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/

Al-Juhani
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

= Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
Hi Group,

I am new user of Red Hat Linux.
I am installing sendmail as an mail server.
I have one question for this.

We have mail id on our web site, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So, all mails sent on a.com are coming into inbox box
[EMAIL PROTECTED] i.e. a mail sent on [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be
in inbox of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Now we want to download all mails from there into our red
hat linux server and from there I want to distribute mail
to user of Red Hat Linux server.
i.e mail on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to user1, mail on
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to user2.

Is it possible?
How?

Pl. reply soon.

Thanks and Regards

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Re: Mail server in Red Hat Linux

2002-10-24 Thread Mitchell Wright
If the suggestions below do not give you what you need, you can also do this
with sendmail.

http://www.sendmail.net/smfaq_virthost_b.shtml

On 10/24/02 6:24 AM, aljuhani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes it is possible.  What you are doing is called a catch-all mail account
 that accept all emails and forward them to one account admin in your case.
 You will need a software that access the admin account and download messages
 and copy according to user to users folder.  Fetchmail is a good software that
 is used usually to fetch email to your server from a remote server but I think
 it should work for local.  Check the link below:
 
 http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/fetchmail/
 
 Al-Juhani
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 = Original Message From [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
 Hi Group,
 
 I am new user of Red Hat Linux.
 I am installing sendmail as an mail server.
 I have one question for this.
 
 We have mail id on our web site, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So, all mails sent on a.com are coming into inbox box
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i.e. a mail sent on [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be
 in inbox of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Now we want to download all mails from there into our red
 hat linux server and from there I want to distribute mail
 to user of Red Hat Linux server.
 i.e mail on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to user1, mail on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to user2.
 
 Is it possible?
 How?
 
 Pl. reply soon.
 
 Thanks and Regards
 
 Rupesh Shah
 
 
 



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Re: Mail server in Red Hat Linux

2002-10-24 Thread senthil
what kind of mail box do u have ? looks like a IMAP box. If it is then based
in the message to header the mails can be parsed and delivered to local
mailboxes. The admin account you are mentioning  is it having the access to
the entire IMAP account ? then this should be possible.  Local parsing will
be taken care by procmail.

Read the HOWtos of Fetchmail and Sendmail before u start off then it will be
easy !!

good luck

sendhil


- Original Message -
From: Rupesh Shah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 3:05 PM
Subject: Mail server in Red Hat Linux


 Hi Group,

 I am new user of Red Hat Linux.
 I am installing sendmail as an mail server.
 I have one question for this.

 We have mail id on our web site, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 So, all mails sent on a.com are coming into inbox box
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] i.e. a mail sent on [EMAIL PROTECTED] will be
 in inbox of [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Now we want to download all mails from there into our red
 hat linux server and from there I want to distribute mail
 to user of Red Hat Linux server.
 i.e mail on [EMAIL PROTECTED] to user1, mail on
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] to user2.

 Is it possible?
 How?

 Pl. reply soon.

 Thanks and Regards

 Rupesh Shah

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Re: Mail Server not accepting Mails!

2002-08-27 Thread Krishna

Hi,
  Thanks for the reply. I managed to get it working. The I have done
here is all my mails are downloaded by fetchmail and redirected to my
account on the server and from the server I POP it. I can even send a mail
like [EMAIL PROTECTED] where wiplash.com is bogus here. Its cool!
I am also trying to configure Gotmail so that I can pop my hotmail account.

thanks Daniel

regards
Krishna

Krishna Shekhar
Network Administrator
Wiplash.com
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: Mail Server not accepting Mails!


 u can try setting hostname in /etc/host and did you create the user on
that
 server?
 is sendmail daemon active?
 do a ps -ef | grep sendmail*
 if no, then run sendmail -bd
 - Original Message -
 From: Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 5:06 PM
 Subject: Mail Server not accepting Mails!


  Hi,
  I am trying to setup a mailserver for personal use.The server downloads
  mails for me using fetchmail and I then pop it through the networked
 windows
  machine.
  But the problem is that the server is not accepting the mails which I
send
  to it?
  The ipaddress of the server is 192.168.0.36
  When I try to send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; this is what the
 maillog
  shows:
 
  n=5.1.2, stat=Host unknown (Name server: 192.168.0.36: host not found)
  Aug 27 13:48:05 linux sendmail[21117]: g7R6m4i21115: g7R6m5i21117: DSN:
 Host
  unk
  nown (Name server: 192.168.0.36: host not found)
  Aug 27 13:48:05 linux sendmail[21117]: g7R6m5i21117:
  to=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
  delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, pri=30545,
  relay=192.168.0.36, ds
  n=5.1.2, stat=Host unknown (Name server: 192.168.0.36: host not found)
  Aug 27 13:48:05 linux sendmail[21117]: g7R6m5i21117: to=uucp-dom,
  delay=00:00:00
  , mailer=local, pri=30545, dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown
  Aug 27 13:48:05 linux sendmail[21117]: g7R6m5i21117: g7R6m5j21117:
return
 to
  sen
  der: User unknown
  Aug 27 13:48:05 linux sendmail[21117]: g7R6m5j21117: to=root,
  delay=00:00:00, xd
  elay=00:00:00, mailer=local, pri=30645, dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
  Aug 27 13:48:22 linux fetchmail[3885]: 1 message (1 seen) for
  krishna_shekhar@gm
  x.net at pop.gmx.net (1756 octets).
 
  In sendmail configuration I configured sendmail to listen on 127.0.0.1
and
  192.168.0.36
  O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=127.0.0.1, Name=MTA
  O DaemonPortOptions=Port=smtp,Addr=192.168.0.36, Name=MTA
 
  What more configuration should I do?
 
  regards
  Krishna
 
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  Network Administrator
  Wiplash Wireless
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-08-02 Thread Spam Filter



The original message was sent by daniel - 

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Lee Enterprises prohibits the use of its e-mail system for transmission of
SPAM.  It is also the policy of Lee Enterprises that all electronic
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Please inform the sender of this message that it has been identified as an
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| Well, you might want to install the imap rpm and then turn on the pop3
| server just to see if it works.  This is pretty simple and you can easily
| remove the package after testing.
|
| This should show you whether the problem is with the client config or
| whether you have a problem with the pop3 compile.

good idea
i tried it
it worked
so now i know that the problem lies in the imap build
but what is it?

these are my options for the build:

  lnx Linux with traditional passwords and crypt()
  lnp Linux with PAM
  lrh Redhat Linux 7.2
  lsu SuSE Linux
  s14 Linux using -lshadow to get the crypt() function
  s15 Linux with shadow passwords, no extra libraries
  slx Linux using -lcrypt to get the crypt() function

since i'm using redhat 7.2, i've tried lrh and when that didn't work, i
tried lnp...  both give me the same problems.  suggestions?

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-08-01 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 18:10, Gerry Doris wrote:
 
 I continue to see these claims that sendmail is insecure.  However, I've
 yet to see anyone actually back this up.  Would you please give me the
 details of why sendmail is insecure.

It's install SUID root (may not be true in future versions, Red Hat
seems to have a solution to that particular problem)
It's one, very large, very complex application.

Without even beginning to get into other problems, the two above are
enough that anyone with even a little security background will
acknowledge that sendmail is not, and can not be made, secure.  SUID
applications should be as small as possible to accomplish their task:
less code means fewer problems to exploit.  Any other common MTA makes
minimal use of root privileges and SUID binaries.

Sendmail has a very long history of root exploits, both local and
remote.  It shouldn't be hard to find them.  Just look at
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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-08-01 Thread daniel

sendmail no longer installs setuid root when you compile it from source.
instead the README suggests that you create a separate user and group and
have that group have a setuid.  redhat's version on the other hand IS set to
setuid root (check /usr/sbin/sendmail.sendmail).

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Subject: Re: mail server from source saga continues


| On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 18:10, Gerry Doris wrote:
| 
|  I continue to see these claims that sendmail is insecure.  However, I've
|  yet to see anyone actually back this up.  Would you please give me the
|  details of why sendmail is insecure.
|
| It's install SUID root (may not be true in future versions, Red Hat
| seems to have a solution to that particular problem)
| It's one, very large, very complex application.
|
| Without even beginning to get into other problems, the two above are
| enough that anyone with even a little security background will
| acknowledge that sendmail is not, and can not be made, secure.  SUID
| applications should be as small as possible to accomplish their task:
| less code means fewer problems to exploit.  Any other common MTA makes
| minimal use of root privileges and SUID binaries.
|
| Sendmail has a very long history of root exploits, both local and
| remote.  It shouldn't be hard to find them.  Just look at
| www.sendmail.org.
|
|
|
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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-08-01 Thread Gordon Messmer

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:02, daniel wrote:
 | Why didn't you just install Redhat's pop3 server rpm (actually it's the
 | imap rpm).  It the UW pop3 package and would have saved you the trouble of
 | building it and perhaps not including something needed?
 
 'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
 enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things from
 source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems just
 like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine is
 using and should use for pop3.

What constitutes not big enough?  Before you spend too much time on
this project, you should probably realize that the time you're going to
put into getting sendmail and IMAP on this small machine is going to
cost you more than the system requirements of Red Hat Linux.

I'd also suggest that you re-examine your assertion that pre-made
packages breed problems like this one.  While true from a point of
view, the whole picture is bigger than that.  Building an OS (or even
just the services on one) from source requires a great deal of
understanding about how the system functions, and how *everything* is
supposed to work together.  A good system engineer knows more than how
to make things work: he knows how to make things work *right*.

I don't mean to discourage you from learning... I just think you're not
starting in the right place.  Get Red Hat's src.rpm for the imap
package, and read the spec file.  Read the patches.  Understand what
they've had to change to make imap work properly on Linux, and how they
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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-08-01 Thread Aly Dharshi

I concur with what Gordon has to say. I think that you may want to look into 
that. I also feel that you would indeed find it easier to configure, aka minimal 
work with another mail software such as Exim, Postfix or Qmail. They are much 
easier to configure less work to maintain and great support for them. Exim 
especially.

Cheers,

Aly.

Gordon Messmer wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:02, daniel wrote:
 
| Why didn't you just install Redhat's pop3 server rpm (actually it's the
| imap rpm).  It the UW pop3 package and would have saved you the trouble of
| building it and perhaps not including something needed?

'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things from
source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems just
like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine is
using and should use for pop3.
 
 
 What constitutes not big enough?  Before you spend too much time on
 this project, you should probably realize that the time you're going to
 put into getting sendmail and IMAP on this small machine is going to
 cost you more than the system requirements of Red Hat Linux.
 
 I'd also suggest that you re-examine your assertion that pre-made
 packages breed problems like this one.  While true from a point of
 view, the whole picture is bigger than that.  Building an OS (or even
 just the services on one) from source requires a great deal of
 understanding about how the system functions, and how *everything* is
 supposed to work together.  A good system engineer knows more than how
 to make things work: he knows how to make things work *right*.
 
 I don't mean to discourage you from learning... I just think you're not
 starting in the right place.  Get Red Hat's src.rpm for the imap
 package, and read the spec file.  Read the patches.  Understand what
 they've had to change to make imap work properly on Linux, and how they
 go about their build process.
 
 
 
 


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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-31 Thread Aly Dharshi

Greetings Brian,

I hope that you are well.

 
 Sendmail has NOTHING to do with mbx, maildirs or whatever you want to use.
 Sendmail is an MTA. That's a Mail Transfer Agent. All it does is get mail
 from server to server. If it has happened to arrive at the right one, then
 it passes it off to an MDA. The default MDA in RH is procmail.

You are correct it doesn't, I always treat procmail and say maildrop as part 
of 
that software. I always forget they are seperate. But in the case of Maildirs I 
think that the MTA also does the work of the MDA.

 
 Also, mbx is a simple text file. Corrupting it is only likely if you suffer
 a power outage. If you are suffering power outages on servers then they are
 either not critical servers or you are not planning properly. Fixing it can
 be done in your favorite text editor. (Note, there are other ways to corrupt
 it, but they are very unlikely and would also apply to maildirs.)
 

No I think that such a file is corruptable much more easily than a directory 
containing many files, hence mbx is not suitable over NFS. Maybe a server crash 
could leave an mbx file inconsistant. Maildirs are harder to corrupt I would think.

 If you want to use maildir with UW-IMAP, then read their page on how to do
 it. You will simply need to recompile and then change your procmail rules to
 deliver to maildirs.

UW-Imap is bulky and slow, Courier Imap is fast and efficient, I have worked 
with 
both when I could patch the UW-Imap system to do Maildir, this was a nasty piece 
of work. Courier is a Maildir Imap server only and is indeed as mentioned quite 
fast. Its the Imap server of choice nowadays or is getting popular.


 How do you define better? Less features? Less developers? No corporate
 sponsorship? Less common? Come on, this is just like the Emacs vs. Vi thing,
 aren't we passed that point?

Sendmail has been hard to configure, Exim is easier to configure and work with 
right out of the box, so for example the cs department on campus runs sendmail, 
if they put Exim it would work with the same commandline switches and with 
adding your domain and mailhost to a configure file you are up and running.

I am guess that its a matter of preference, Debian ships Exim by default. Its 
got 
a script to get Exim up and running quickly. RH ships Postfix as well, Sendmail 
is packaged because its the first mail server around I thinks.   I could be very 
very wrong.

 
 I have nothing against any of your alternate suggestions (well, that's not
 completely true, I dislike Qmail for DJB and his licensing but not for the
 product), but they are not superior. They may fit someone's needs better,
 but there is not necessarily something to gain (well, except for a product
 that suits your needs :).
 

I dislike Qmail as I could never get it to run for some odd reason, I found 
that 
there were too many files to work with, Exim was easy to configure and compile 
finally was sendmail compatible. Its fast and works for me and hence I recommend 
it to Daniel to make his life easier. Each to their own preference. But watch 
out Sendmail here comes Exim :) :) :) :)


 Best advice is do a lot of reading.
 

No doubt. Lots of research.

Cheers,

Aly.

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Gerry Doris


 so i managed to install sendmail
 and configure it properly (i hope)
 and then i went searching for pop3/imap daemons
 and decided on the university of washington's ipop3 server
 built it,
 installed it

 and here's the good news:
   i _can_ connect to the linux box from a windows box via pop3

 but the bad news:
   it doesn't work.
   i get the following error in /var/log/maillog:
   Jul 30 11:18:06 servername ipop3d[20708]: Login failed
 user=username
 auth=username host=host [ip]

 you read right, both the user= and the auth= are showing up the same
 even though i am passing two very different values for the username and
 password.  am i right in assuming that this has something to do with how
 i compiled ipop3?  according to the build README, i was supposed to
 type: make lnp for linux systems running PAM.  isn't that how
 redhat7.3 is default installed?  or am i on an entirely wrong track
 here?

 thanks for the help people.  i'm still a newbie at all this and i feel
 like i'm up to my neck in error messages.

Why didn't you just install Redhat's pop3 server rpm (actually it's the
imap rpm).  It the UW pop3 package and would have saved you the trouble of
building it and perhaps not including something needed?

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread daniel

| Why didn't you just install Redhat's pop3 server rpm (actually it's the
| imap rpm).  It the UW pop3 package and would have saved you the trouble of
| building it and perhaps not including something needed?

'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things from
source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems just
like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine is
using and should use for pop3.

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Gerry Doris


 | Why didn't you just install Redhat's pop3 server rpm (actually it's
 the | imap rpm).  It the UW pop3 package and would have saved you the
 trouble of | building it and perhaps not including something needed?

 'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
 enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things
 from source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds
 problems just like this one where i don't know what kind of
 authorisation my machine is using and should use for pop3.

Well, you might want to install the imap rpm and then turn on the pop3
server just to see if it works.  This is pretty simple and you can easily
remove the package after testing.

This should show you whether the problem is with the client config or
whether you have a problem with the pop3 compile.

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Andy Schuler

On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:02, daniel wrote:

 'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
 enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things from
 source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems just
 like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine is
 using and should use for pop3.
 

Since you're building your mail server from source why not look at qmail
instead of sendmail? It has many advantages over sendmail, one of the
major ones being security. There are some great step-by-step toasters
out there for building qmail on a linux system. It can be used very
easily with vpopmail for vitual domains and can be configured with
Spamassassin for spam control. I have also found that I like dealing
with Maildirs much better than mboxs. Check it out

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread daniel

| Well, you might want to install the imap rpm and then turn on the pop3
| server just to see if it works.  This is pretty simple and you can easily
| remove the package after testing.
|
| This should show you whether the problem is with the client config or
| whether you have a problem with the pop3 compile.

good idea
i tried it
it worked
so now i know that the problem lies in the imap build
but what is it?

these are my options for the build:

  lnx Linux with traditional passwords and crypt()
  lnp Linux with PAM
  lrh Redhat Linux 7.2
  lsu SuSE Linux
  s14 Linux using -lshadow to get the crypt() function
  s15 Linux with shadow passwords, no extra libraries
  slx Linux using -lcrypt to get the crypt() function

since i'm using redhat 7.2, i've tried lrh and when that didn't work, i
tried lnp...  both give me the same problems.  suggestions?

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Aly Dharshi

Well if we are building from scratch I would put in my vote for Exim, having 
used it for a couple of large projects, I have found that its widely maintained 
and isn't sorry to say stagnant like Qmail is, there hasn't been a release of 
Qmail past 1.03 I would say and that Exim has matured to 4.x with a wide user base.

Supports Maildirs, LDAP and other authentication methods natively no need to 
patch things and is much easier to do things with check it out (http://www.exim.org)

Cheers,

Aly.

Andy Schuler wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:02, daniel wrote:
 
 
'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things from
source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems just
like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine is
using and should use for pop3.

 
 
 Since you're building your mail server from source why not look at qmail
 instead of sendmail? It has many advantages over sendmail, one of the
 major ones being security. There are some great step-by-step toasters
 out there for building qmail on a linux system. It can be used very
 easily with vpopmail for vitual domains and can be configured with
 Spamassassin for spam control. I have also found that I like dealing
 with Maildirs much better than mboxs. Check it out
 
 http://qmail.org
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread daniel

i've already compiled, installed and configured sendmail and that's what i
want to use.  my problem is with imap/pop3.

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Subject: Re: mail server from source saga continues


| Well if we are building from scratch I would put in my vote for Exim,
having
| used it for a couple of large projects, I have found that its widely
maintained
| and isn't sorry to say stagnant like Qmail is, there hasn't been a release
of
| Qmail past 1.03 I would say and that Exim has matured to 4.x with a wide
user base.
|
| Supports Maildirs, LDAP and other authentication methods natively no need
to
| patch things and is much easier to do things with check it out
(http://www.exim.org)
|
| Cheers,
|
| Aly.
|
| Andy Schuler wrote:
|  On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 12:02, daniel wrote:
| 
| 
| 'cause i'm practicing for a linux build on a machine that won't be big
| enough for a redhat install.  besides, i want to learn how to do things
from
| source and not be dependant of pre-made packages.  it breeds problems
just
| like this one where i don't know what kind of authorisation my machine
is
| using and should use for pop3.
| 
| 
| 
|  Since you're building your mail server from source why not look at qmail
|  instead of sendmail? It has many advantages over sendmail, one of the
|  major ones being security. There are some great step-by-step toasters
|  out there for building qmail on a linux system. It can be used very
|  easily with vpopmail for vitual domains and can be configured with
|  Spamassassin for spam control. I have also found that I like dealing
|  with Maildirs much better than mboxs. Check it out
| 
|  http://qmail.org
| 
| 
| 
| 
| 
|
|
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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Michael Fratoni

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On Tuesday 30 July 2002 05:24 pm, daniel wrote:

 these are my options for the build:

   lnx Linux with traditional passwords and crypt()
   lnp Linux with PAM
   lrh Redhat Linux 7.2
   lsu SuSE Linux
   s14 Linux using -lshadow to get the crypt() function
   s15 Linux with shadow passwords, no extra libraries
   slx Linux using -lcrypt to get the crypt() function

 since i'm using redhat 7.2, i've tried lrh and when that didn't work, i
 tried lnp...  both give me the same problems.  suggestions?

Here are the options Red Hat uses to build the imap rpm. However, they 
also apply several patches to the source. You might also install the Red 
Hat provided imap source package, and look at how they build it.

%build
# Set EXTRACFLAGS here instead of in imap-2000-redhat.patch (#20760)
EXTRACFLAGS=$EXTRACFLAGS -DDISABLE_POP_PROXY=1 
- -DIGNORE_LOCK_EACCES_ERRORS=1
EXTRACFLAGS=$EXTRACFLAGS -I/usr/include/openssl
EXTRACFLAGS=$EXTRACFLAGS -I/usr/kerberos/include
EXTRALDFLAGS=$EXTRALDFLAGS -L/usr/kerberos/lib

%ifnarch sparc
make RPM_OPT_FLAGS=$RPM_OPT_FLAGS -fPIC lnp \
%else
make RPM_OPT_FLAGS= lnp \
%endif
EXTRACFLAGS=$EXTRACFLAGS \
EXTRALDFLAGS=$EXTRALDFLAGS \
EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \
SSLTYPE=unix \

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Re: mail server from source saga continues

2002-07-30 Thread No Realm

More power to you. Sendmail is a good product, but Postfix is much easier to set up, 
and to be the admin of. 



   
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:36:29 -0700
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i've already compiled, installed and configured sendmail and that's
what i
want to use.  my problem is with imap/pop3.

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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Gerry Doris

On 30 Jul 2002, Andy Schuler wrote:
 Since you're building your mail server from source why not look at qmail
 instead of sendmail? It has many advantages over sendmail, one of the
 major ones being security. There are some great step-by-step toasters
 out there for building qmail on a linux system. It can be used very
 easily with vpopmail for vitual domains and can be configured with
 Spamassassin for spam control. I have also found that I like dealing
 with Maildirs much better than mboxs. Check it out
 
 http://qmail.org

I continue to see these claims that sendmail is insecure.  However, I've
yet to see anyone actually back this up.  Would you please give me the
details of why sendmail is insecure.  From what I've seen of the releases 
in the last couple of years the focus has been on tightening security not 
so much as fixing issues.

About the closest I've had anyone come is their concern that sendmail has 
so many options that it could be misconfigured leading to an insecurity.  
However, that's likely true of most of the complex packages ie apache and 
not the fault of sendmail.


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Re: mail server from source saga continues....

2002-07-30 Thread Aly Dharshi

As I mentioned then you want to look at Uni of Washington's Imap server. You can 
  look thru' and the best way to compile it would be to compile it as RedHat 
Linux 7.2 I don't think that 7.3 is that invariably different so as to choke the 
compilation.

As I also mentioned that Sendmail is a system that makes use of the mbx format 
which is pretty unreliable, one big file that has all you mail, if that gets 
corrupted kiss most of you mail good-bye. So working with the fact that Sendmail 
doesn't support Maildirs and you want to use mbx formats and Sendmail then by 
all means work with UW-imapd/pop3d its reliable. That is your solution. Qpopper 
is indeed a good pop3 server.

If you decided that you want to use a more reliable mailbox format such as 
Maildirs then firstly do some research on Maildirs, choose a better product than 
sendmail, such as Exim, Qmail or Postfix and then find a imap/pop server that 
supports maildirs such as Courier-Imap.

Cheers,

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Re: Mail server only...

2000-12-27 Thread Jeff Hogg


-Original Message-
From: Fred Edmister [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 11:51 AM
Subject: Mail server only...


 Just curious, I'm about to build a system that is going to be used for a
mail server only.  Is there any part of the setup that I can change that
will make it so I don't have to go back into the config and take things
back out?  Also, what would be better to use, I have RH 5.2 and 6.2, and
just curious which one might be better to use... (never did get majordomo
to work on 6.2 LOL)  Thanks in advance to everyone, and hope you all had a
VERY Merry Christmas!


You would probably want 6.2.  It's alot safer in terms of security, and has
better hardware support.  As to installing only what you will need, thats
what the custom install option is for. :)  Just select the portions you wish
to install, and let it go.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Mail server only...

2000-12-27 Thread John Aldrich

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, Fred Edmister wrote:
 Just curious, I'm about to build a system that is going to be used for a 
 mail server only.  Is there any part of the setup that I can change that 
 will make it so I don't have to go back into the config and take things 
 back out?  Also, what would be better to use, I have RH 5.2 and 6.2, and 
 just curious which one might be better to use... (never did get majordomo 
 to work on 6.2 LOL)  Thanks in advance to everyone, and hope you all had a 
 VERY Merry Christmas!
 
Probably 6.2 and use Mailman for list management. :-)
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Re: Mail server only...

2000-12-27 Thread Anthony E . Greene

On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 12:38:43 Fred Edmister wrote:
Just curious, I'm about to build a system that is going to be used
for a 
mail server only.  Is there any part of the setup that I can change that 
will make it so I don't have to go back into the config and take things 
back out?  Also, what would be better to use, I have RH 5.2 and 6.2, and 
just curious which one might be better to use... (never did get majordomo 
to work on 6.2 LOL)

Search the Sendmail and Majordomo FAQs for 'smrsh' to get Majordomo working
on 6.2. Mailman looks like it might be better, but I'm already familiar with
Majordomo.

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Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help....

2000-02-28 Thread cnet


thanks sir you really give me an idea...
i hope i could make it work
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 From: Eddie Strohmier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls
help
 Date: Thursday, February 24, 2000 9:30 PM
 
 Woops had a typo: A loop back to local host, not a look back. Check your
log
 files as I have seen this after upgrading to 8.9.3 and sendmail.cw was
the
 answer. The error also may be worded: mail loops back to me,
configuration
 error or something of that sort.
 
 Eddie Strohmier
 Bonwell Globalnet
 www.bonwell.com
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Eddie Strohmier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:03 AM
 Subject: Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls
help
 
 
  I assume your using sendmail 8.9.3 and was using 8.8.7 before? I would
  venture to guess that your problem is that you have not included the
names
  of your machine in /etc/sendmail.cw. Add your domain name and any
virtual
  domains you may be running. This seems to be the most like cause for
  sendmail to cause a look back to local host. Check your
/var/log/maillog
 for
  error messages that would give you a clue as to what is wrong. Or post
it
  here as I don't have much to work with without log entries.
 
  Eddie Strohmier
  Bonwell Globalnet
  www.bonwell.com
 
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  Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 4:34 AM
  Subject: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help
 
 
   i upgraded my mail server to version 6.1 from 5.2  (linux)
   i tried the same sendmail config  ( sendmail.cf ) from my old server
to
  the
   new one...
  
   we could send messages and our new mail server can receive and store
   incoming messages.
  
   but taking messages from the server gets an error message.
   tired of waiting(using eudora for win :) )
  
   did i miss something...
   what are new ways to configure sendmail...
  
   thanks...i hope somebody could help
  
   cnet
  
  
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Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help....

2000-02-24 Thread Eddie Strohmier

I assume your using sendmail 8.9.3 and was using 8.8.7 before? I would
venture to guess that your problem is that you have not included the names
of your machine in /etc/sendmail.cw. Add your domain name and any virtual
domains you may be running. This seems to be the most like cause for
sendmail to cause a look back to local host. Check your /var/log/maillog for
error messages that would give you a clue as to what is wrong. Or post it
here as I don't have much to work with without log entries.

Eddie Strohmier
Bonwell Globalnet
www.bonwell.com

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Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 4:34 AM
Subject: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help


 i upgraded my mail server to version 6.1 from 5.2  (linux)
 i tried the same sendmail config  ( sendmail.cf ) from my old server to
the
 new one...

 we could send messages and our new mail server can receive and store
 incoming messages.

 but taking messages from the server gets an error message.
 tired of waiting(using eudora for win :) )

 did i miss something...
 what are new ways to configure sendmail...

 thanks...i hope somebody could help

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Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help....

2000-02-24 Thread Igmar Palsenberg


 i upgraded my mail server to version 6.1 from 5.2  (linux)
 i tried the same sendmail config  ( sendmail.cf ) from my old server to the
 new one...
 
 we could send messages and our new mail server can receive and store 
 incoming messages.
 
 but taking messages from the server gets an error message.
 tired of waiting(using eudora for win :) )
 
 did i miss something...
 what are new ways to configure sendmail...

The POP3 deamon is the problem, not sendmail. You can't use sendmail to
retreive mail.

Without entries from the logfiles these kind of questions are useless..

The most likely cause is that the POP3 daemon looks in a different dir
then procmail (sendmail's local delivery agent) puts them.

It is also very wise to generate a new sendmail config, because some
things have changed..

 thanks...i hope somebody could help
 
 cnet


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Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help....

2000-02-24 Thread Eddie Strohmier

Woops had a typo: A loop back to local host, not a look back. Check your log
files as I have seen this after upgrading to 8.9.3 and sendmail.cw was the
answer. The error also may be worded: mail loops back to me, configuration
error or something of that sort.

Eddie Strohmier
Bonwell Globalnet
www.bonwell.com

- Original Message -
From: Eddie Strohmier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help


 I assume your using sendmail 8.9.3 and was using 8.8.7 before? I would
 venture to guess that your problem is that you have not included the names
 of your machine in /etc/sendmail.cw. Add your domain name and any virtual
 domains you may be running. This seems to be the most like cause for
 sendmail to cause a look back to local host. Check your /var/log/maillog
for
 error messages that would give you a clue as to what is wrong. Or post it
 here as I don't have much to work with without log entries.

 Eddie Strohmier
 Bonwell Globalnet
 www.bonwell.com

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 From: cnet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 4:34 AM
 Subject: mail server upgrade( sendmail 8.8.7 to 8.9.3 )...pls help


  i upgraded my mail server to version 6.1 from 5.2  (linux)
  i tried the same sendmail config  ( sendmail.cf ) from my old server to
 the
  new one...
 
  we could send messages and our new mail server can receive and store
  incoming messages.
 
  but taking messages from the server gets an error message.
  tired of waiting(using eudora for win :) )
 
  did i miss something...
  what are new ways to configure sendmail...
 
  thanks...i hope somebody could help
 
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RE: Mail Server Newbie (and a Portsentry question)

1999-11-03 Thread patrick

Portsentry isn't just for portscanning.  The old-time method of
hacking into a machine involved/involves port surfing.  Rather than
simply running a scanner, someone may simply try to telnet into a
series of specific ports.  One reason one may wish to use your port 25
could be for email spoofing - get in and send email from your system
in an attempt to hide their actual name/location to the recipient.  Of
course, they could also seek to get on and try to run an exploit on
your server or simply try to gather info about your system for future
hacking reference.

-Original Message-
From: George Lenzer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 1999 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: recipient.list.not.shown
Subject: Mail Server Newbie (and a Portsentry question)


I just finished setting up a mail server for the first time.  I am
using
POP3 and have disabled IMAP since I won't be using that.  I have a
domain
[...]

My other question regards portsentry.  I noticed that any machines
that
attempt to use my SMTP server that aren't in my sendmail.cw file get
dumped
into /etc/hosts.deny.  Is this normal behavior for Portsentry?  I
didn't
realize that trying to use port 25 from an unauthorized host would
come off
as a port scan.  This is just a curiosity to me.
[...]


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Re: Mail Server Newbie (and a Portsentry question)

1999-11-03 Thread rh

On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 03:38:40PM -0500, George Lenzer wrote:
 I just finished setting up a mail server for the first time.  I am using 
 POP3 and have disabled IMAP since I won't be using that.  I have a domain 
 name that is in the DNS system on the Internet.  I have entered one of my 
 hosts into the sendmail.cw file to allow it to relay for that host.  So far, 
 I can send and recieve mail on that host using my mail server.  However, I 
 would like to know if there is a way to allow specific users to relay with 
 my machine?  I have a few friends I would like to set accounts up for on my 
 machine.  they don't have static IPs and I really don't want to allow the 
 aol.com or msn.com domains to relay through my machine.  Is there a way I 
 can allow specific users to use my mail server only?

But if they have an account on your machine, then they will not use
aol and friends, they will use your server.  And then they are
supposed to use your server's name in their sender's address and not
aol.  What kind of relay problem do you forsee?

 
 My other question regards portsentry.  I noticed that any machines that 
 attempt to use my SMTP server that aren't in my sendmail.cw file get dumped 
 into /etc/hosts.deny.  Is this normal behavior for Portsentry?  I didn't 
 realize that trying to use port 25 from an unauthorized host would come off 
 as a port scan.  This is just a curiosity to me.
 

Portsentry does not block 25 by default.  Perhaps you accidentally
entered 25 as a TCP_PORTS in portsentry.conf?

Examine the output of

grep "^TCP_PORTS=" portsentry.conf

What is the log entry showing that portsentry blocked a host
connecting to port 25?

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Re: Mail Server Newbie (and a Portsentry question)

1999-11-03 Thread David Powers

 But if they have an account on your machine, then they will not use
 aol and friends, they will use your server.  And then they are
 supposed to use your server's name in their sender's address and not
 aol.  What kind of relay problem do you forsee?


I could see this not being a problem if they were given shell access,
but what is being referred to, even if they have a shell account,
without allowing they ISP's they use to relay mail out through his MTA,
the relay idea would not be possilbe.

To be a bit more specific, don't setup the relay, have your friends send
out e-mail through their ISP's SMTP server.  They can set the reply
address in there favorite mail program to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and
use POP3 to pick mail up from your server.


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