[Repeater-Builder] Zetron Model 38 Manual
I have misplaced our Zetron 38 manual and cant remember for the life of me how to program this thing. Dose anyone have a copy in .pdf they could e-mail me? or a photocopy of an original would work too (I would be willing to pay for copying & postage) All help is appreciated Joe Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Maxar 80
I have a Maxar 80 UHF. How do these convert to repeater operation? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] micor squlch gate card problem?? help please
hello help please ive tried everthing I got hit by lighting and it came in on phone line.it took out my controller a acc rc-96.I had it hooked up via the squelch gate card mod to a micor.(go in front of sq card for my signals with db 9 conn) its now disconnected but im having problems with the squlch gate card it self.it was working fine i cant find the problem with it and dont have a spair to try. the repeater works fine as long as i have it in pl decode mode when i put it in carrier mode (change jummpers in sq card) the repeater will key up and pass audio ok but when carrier and tone dissapers i still have audio (discrimater noise) untill the xmit hang time goes away. its not bieing muted .allso i have local audio all the time noise out the speake and cant squlch it out i can turn the volume down but wont squlch out or mute out ever. but local works fine with card out pl or not using disable sw on station controll card everthing works right no noise from speaker unless i un squlch it. i have meters and a scope just point me in the right direction i tried to check the transistors on the card but they all look ok with meter may be i missing a signal or somthing on the input to the card? thanks a lot randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: COME ON GUYS SOMEBODY MUST HAVE INFO. Phelps-Dodge duplexer
On May 27, 2004, at 10:55 AM, skipp025 wrote: > Your picture didn't come through to the yahoo group. His photo came through fine here. Nate WY0X Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Crossband Simplex Repeater
I have a 605TQ that I sometimes run cross-band during emergency services events... that way I can use a VX-5 on it's lowest power setting (to extend battery life) remotely to the car, and it works great. Very simple to setup.. just set the VFO's for the desired freq's... power down... then power up while depressing the "primary" VFO button. Only for 70cm to 2m, or vice versa. The 605 will go out of band... but not a good idea to do so, as it is not type accepted for that kind of use. I also would not recommend it for continuos duty. They 605 gets pretty warm in heavy use... fans might solve the heat issue. But I think 2 Moto's and a R.I.C.K. would be a much better choice for dependability. What, exactly, did you have in mind? 73's Mike K5JMP At 09:06 AM 05/30/04 -0700, you wrote: >My view is that a crossband repeater is not a simplex repeater. If you >are going to operate in the Amateur Radio bands, you can use a dual-band >transceiver with the cross-band repeat function, such as Alinco's >DR-605T. In the commercial bands, you can use Link Communications' >TCB-1 Tactical Communications Bridge to connect two radios together. >Motorola offers several cross-band repeaters that comprise a R.I.C.K. >and two mobile radios in a box with a power supply. The R.I.C.K. >interfaces two radios such as the GM300, M1225, SM50/120, or CDM750. > >You can use a "simplex repeater controller" such as Zetron's Model 19B >Simplexor, but voice storage and playback is unnecessary in cross-band >operation. > >73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY > >s_alajeel wrote: > > > > hi all can any one tell me how set 2 radios back 2 back to do > > uhf/vhf Crossband Simplex Repeater > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > K5JMP www.qsl.net/k5jmp Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Slightly off kilter...121.5 MHz
On May 29, 2004, at 11:06 PM, Al Wolfe wrote: > > You might check with some local CAP types and see what they > suggest. > There are many options out there but converting an FM receiver to > AM is > going to be a stretch. Well, I'm not CAP, but I normally would have recommended the device that 18,000+ people use to listen for and hunt down ELT's in the field... from www.ltronics.com. The 'Elper. But... they're in-between products right now. The new one looks nice, but it also looks expensive and complex, two things I'd prefer they avoid. The older 'Elpers work so well and never ever die... and a single nine-volt battery lasts forever and a day... Oh well... Nate WY0X (Who hunts with http://www.fredf.org -- just had one yesterday morning, in fact... Piper Seneca sittin' on the ramp at APA.) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] maxon cs0500
would anyone have any information on the above portable Thank you Ian Wells Kerinvale Comaudio mail service 1017, Biloela,4715. www.kerinvalecomaudio.com.au 1-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2-email- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] zetron 30 manual
Anybody has the zetron 30 manual? Need it to program it as a repeater controller. Thank's Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question
Hello to the group... I have a Kenwood TK-840 mobile and would like to know if it would program into the 440 band or maybe into the 430 band?? Thanks, Leon-N2HLT http://www.expage.com/n2hlt __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Remote Base Project
Just wanted to say thanks to all those that replied to my remote base project. Some frequencies can be used, 52 simplex work out to be the best of them all. So no no 2 meter remote base, 440 and 220 should work fine. Mathew > Mike, thank you for the confirmation. > > Neil > > > Mike WA6ILQ wrote: > > > > At 09:00 PM 5/23/04 -0700, you wrote: > > > > > Hey Mike, > > > > > > Isn't a Lambda ... just a small Sheepda ... > > > > Yes, a lamb is a baby. > > > > If I remember correctly (it's been 20 years since I last > > sheared a sheep) the parents are rams and ewes > > > > So (with tongue firmly in cheek) an adult Lambda would > > be a Ramda or a Eweda. > > > > And no, you don't measure Ramdas in megabytes > > or by pin count. > > > > > Neil > > > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > >Mike WA6ILQ wrote: > > > > > > > > The older non-unified Micor RX chassis show up on ebay now and then. > > > > I used one - made for a low band RX - with a UHF RX board. Had to drill > > > > out the rivets that held the channel element bracket, but other than that > > > > it was a drop-in. Power was supplied by a small 12v 2a Lambda supply. > > > > > > > > It was used with an Aerotron RX that would not live in a high RF site. > > > > The combo was dubbed a Micortron. > > > > Later on the Aerotron RX was moved to a 420mhz link channel and > > > > reinstalled. > > > > > > > > Mike WA6ILQ > > > > > > > > At 11:26 AM 5/22/04 -0400, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Almost forgot. If things don't work out, you may be able to accomplish > > > what > > > > >you want by changing to a Micor or Master II receiver. Recency was never > > > > >known for its ability to be very selective and the receivers were always > > > > >prone to overload problems. But it's still worth a try. > > > > > > > > > >Chuck > > > > >WB2EDV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > > > > >From: "Chuck Kelsey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >To: > > > > >Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:18 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Base Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with Kevin. Try it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Keep your remote base TX output as low as you can. Try always to > > > work with > > > > > > repeaters and users with "big" signals. It amazing what a big > > > signal can > > > > >do > > > > > > to override desense. > > > > > > > > > > > > Consider installing a flat, horizontal screen between the two > > > antennas to > > > > > > try to get additional isolation. Use heliax for all cable runs and > > > double > > > > > > shielded to all the radio equipment. > > > > > > > > > > > > You may be surprised what you can accomplish. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chuck > > > > > > WB2EDV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: "Kevin Custer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 9:06 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Remote Base Project > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mathew Quaife wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >So then no real good way of doing it, is what i am gathering? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't let other discourage you so much. Just because their > > > experience > > > > > > > hasn't been a good one doesn't mean you should give up. > > > > > > > Try moving the antenna around (up/down - back/forth) while doing > > > a link, > > > > > > > you may see quite a difference in a few feet or even inches. Same > > > > > > > principal as inching the car ahead at a stoplight to get your > > > favorite > > > > > > > FM radio station in better. Use simple antennas for the remote base > > > > > > > like a small beam or a ground plane, and don't be afraid to > > > experiment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Maxar 80
Ron contact me off list I have a service manual. Brett - Original Message - From: Ronald Wicker To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 10:40 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Maxar 80 I have a Maxar 80 UHF. How do these convert to repeater operation? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: micor squlch gate card problem?? help please
Randy the sq gate mod usually takes COS from Q18 the transistor that does audio muting. (At front/middle of the card near JU10) Its a general purpose NPN M9642, you can pull one from an old card or probably try 2N3904 etc to get it going..not sure on the sub. You can check the operation of this transistor with a VOM on jumper J10. This should be around 12v sq'd and near 0v when unsquelched. You can also check to see if the card's squelch circuit is working by checking board pin 9 which should be about 8v sq'd and near 0v unsquelched. G.L. - Ron VE1AIC --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "randy kisthardt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hello help please ive tried everthing > I got hit by lighting and it came in on phone line.it took out my > controller a acc rc-96.I had it hooked up via the squelch gate card > mod to a micor.(go in front of sq card for my signals with db 9 conn) > its now disconnected but im having problems with the squlch gate card > it self.it was working fine i cant find the problem with it and dont > have a spair to try. > > the repeater works fine as long as i have it in pl decode mode > when i put it in carrier mode (change jummpers in sq card) the > repeater will key up and pass audio ok but when carrier and tone > dissapers i still have audio (discrimater noise) untill the xmit hang > time goes away. its not bieing muted .allso i have local audio all > the time noise out the speake and cant squlch it out i can turn the > volume down but wont squlch out or mute out ever. but local works > fine with card out pl or not using disable sw on station controll > card everthing works right no noise from speaker unless i un squlch > it. i have meters and a scope just point me in the right direction > i tried to check the transistors on the card but they all look ok > with meter may be i missing a signal or somthing on the input to the > card? > thanks a lot > randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs...
I am Getting only 83 db Isolation usning My 641's.. funny thing. I cannot get it to work with my MastrII repeater. But it works great with the Spectrum.. Kevin Custer wrote: >I own several sets of Wacom 641's, so I'll correct Eric's figures. The >Wacom 641 is a 4 cavity BpBr duplexer using 8 inch cans. > >Eric Lemmon wrote: > > > >>A 2m repeater on 147.090/147.690, with a 50 watt transmitter and a 0.35 uV >>receiver generally requires about 88 dB of isolation for no desense. The >>WP-641 duplexer is rated at 85 dB, >> >> >> > >While the WP-641 is rated at 85 dB, that spec is at the highband >literature standard of 500 kiloHertz separation, not 600 kc as >referenced above, when used on a 2 meter repeater. > > > >>but most can manage only 80-83 dB. >> >> >> > >Incorrect, Wacom specified the WP-641 at 90 dB isolation at 600 kc, but >they will actually manage 93 dB with careful tuning. >93 dB will allow a 100 watt 2 meter repeater to properly work using a >.35 uV (-116 dBm) receiver. A *good* repeater like a Micor or Mastr II >(read less than typical transmitter side band noise) will allow a 100 >watt repeater operate properly with a factory preamp (-125 dBm) >receiver. Granted, this is its limit, but that isn't too bad considering. > >A Tube Type amplifier (GE 4EF5A1) or PLL exciter and solid state PA will >allow about 250 watts to be duplexed using the Wacom WP-641. > >These specifications can be backed up from the factory literature >available here: >http://www.repeater-builder.com/pdf/wp641.pdf > >Maybe Eric was thinking of the WP-639 duplexer that uses 4, 5 inch >cans? His figures would be much closer > >Kevin Custer > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs...
Ron Stordahl N5IN wrote: >if all else fails I have a set of WP-639's which I could split, >2 cans on the 147.69 receive and two on the 144.39 packet. These are >bpbr cans but I had another use for them...maybe Ill have to use them. > That would be the best approach. We have a CAP repeater running a triplexer (4 port device) and it simply works great. I'm not sure of the exact configuration but maybe someone like Jeff DePolo could explain it? Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Help hooking up a Syntor Radio
I am in need of some help in connecting the control heads on a syntor radio. Anyone have any expirience with this that might be able to help me in this project. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question
Hello All, Yes it will program to the 440.000 Ham band with out any problem. You mite want to realine the receiver afterwards. I have two of them in the Ham bands and the both work great! 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:59 AM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question > Hello to the group... > > I have a Kenwood TK-840 mobile and would like to know > if it would program into the 440 band or maybe into > the 430 band?? > > Thanks, Leon-N2HLT > > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs...
Neal Newman wrote: >I am Getting only 83 db Isolation usning My 641's.. >funny thing. I cannot get it to work with my MastrII repeater. But it >works great with the Spectrum.. > The obvious question is, is it tuned properly? The Wacom 641 is very simple to get close with nothing more than a handheld and a signal generator. I prefer to tune the pass under low power, like one watt from the handheld. It makes the pass more precise, as tuning it with a spectrum analyzer usually won't yield as good a loss. I have always been able to hit the 1.5 dB loss mark by using this method. PLEASE spare me the "Don't tune the duplexer under power BS" These cavities are rated at 350 watts intermittent, and 275 continuous and you won't be able to arc the fingerstock with a few watts of power, especially if you get it close to resonance with a signal generator first. After getting the pass frequency 'correct' you will find that obtaining the stated isolation is easy. One thing that happens is if the cavity is not tuned correctly on the pass frequency, the reject amount will suffer. Why? As the spacing between pass and reject frequencies decrease, so does the ability for the cavity to provide the rejection response. With this cavity, the lowest loss and best return loss appear nearly on top of one another, so match is at its best when the cavity is properly tuned for lowest insertion loss. Here is more on pass and reject response with one cavity from a WP-641 duplexer: http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/wacombpbrnotes.html Another thing that happens commonly with a duplexer and a radio set that was converted from commercial service to amateur, is the actual terminal impedance will not be 50 ohms. A duplexer that has been optimized on a piece of 50 ohm test equipment *may* not perform very well in practice. There are a few things that can be done to help this problem, like using a matching device (Z matcher) on the transmitter. Some prefer to match the duplexer to the transmitter by adjusting cabling lengths. Either method can substantially improve the operation of the duplexer. Sure, it would be nice or best if the radio set presented a perfect 50 ohm match, but many we convert do not. Wacom had written a dissertation on optimizing the duplexer interconnection cabling lengths. That information, as well as duplexer tuning, is available here: http://www.repeater-builder.com/pdf/wp6xxVHFtuninginstructions.pdf Look on page 4 under the section "Cable length between transmitter and duplexer" Hope this helps... Kevin Custer Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: micor squlch gate card problem?? help please
ron thanks for helping pin 5 of squlch card q18 in put i think goes high when i put it in cos and stays their. when card is out pin 5 changes with input to reciever like it should. so i guss that is the problem. i cant see how its going high from the cos select jumper unless the transistor is shorted q 18. i checked it in circut with meter and it looks ok so ill pull it out to be sure jump 10 is in and it was in and it was working fine so somthing went im pretty sure in the squlch gate card cause local audio is fine pl or cos with out card in.and it works ok with card in in pl mode but cos mode makes it have noise all the time out speaker and xmit audio wont mute during hang time i dont under stand why it works ok in pl and not cos is q18 not used in pl mode? ill pull q 18 out and check it better and also may try a other one in its place allso i checked all the diodes with meter they all look ok too. got to be somthing shorted to pin 5 q 18 of sq gate card but only in cos wish i had a spair card to try thanks ron and aney one elce with ideas or help randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Wacom WP-641, correction on its specs...
I fought a duplexer tuning problem for several hours, then noticed the repeater transmitter was spurious. Mission Impossible. Ssb Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Help hooking up a Syntor Radio
Matthew, What is it you're trying to do? Pinouts, wiring, etc.?? If it is a first-run Syntor (not SyntorX, etc.) I have the manual for it. Contact me off-list for follow-up. Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: w9mwq [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:05 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Help hooking up a Syntor Radio I am in need of some help in connecting the control heads on a syntor radio. Anyone have any expirience with this that might be able to help me in this project. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Question
I'd first look into what the Icom is doing, is it meeting specs, was it tuned up properly. The sensitivity would be way off if it was just programmed and not touched at all. Also the next thing would be what kind of duplexer are you using, it is possible you are being hammered by other signals or just a very high noise floor that is affecting the front end of the Icom. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 11:49 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Question A question to the group hope we can find the answer OK I have a GMRS Repeater located on a large tower over looking the NY/NJ Metro area. Currently I have been using a Motorola Desktrac Repeater (which is basically 2 Maxtrac mobiles with a basic repeater controller, and it is not continuous duty) 10 dB gain Superstation Master antenna on top of the tower, with 1 1/2 hard-line. The repeater has been putting out 25 watts. I cover a great deal of area with this repeater, with little dead spots. I purchased an ICOM FR-4000 repeater last week, hoping to have a more continuous duty repeater, DTMF Controls and some other features. After I removed the Desktrac, and put the ICOM in place I lost total coverage, a portable could not get in from 2 miles away, when I was getting portable coverage from 30-40 miles away. So I placed the Motorola Desktrac back and no problem. So far I have no idea why I have lost the coverage, I know there is a 800 MHz EDACS System putting out 25 watts on the tower and a VHF System. Both have not interfered with the Desktrac. What could this be? what possible cures could fix this problem? Thanks in advance Joe WPYU470 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Repeater Question
A question to the group hope we can find the answer OK I have a GMRS Repeater located on a large tower over looking the NY/NJ Metro area. Currently I have been using a Motorola Desktrac Repeater (which is basically 2 Maxtrac mobiles with a basic repeater controller, and it is not continuous duty) 10 dB gain Superstation Master antenna on top of the tower, with 1 1/2 hard-line. The repeater has been putting out 25 watts. I cover a great deal of area with this repeater, with little dead spots. I purchased an ICOM FR-4000 repeater last week, hoping to have a more continuous duty repeater, DTMF Controls and some other features. After I removed the Desktrac, and put the ICOM in place I lost total coverage, a portable could not get in from 2 miles away, when I was getting portable coverage from 30-40 miles away. So I placed the Motorola Desktrac back and no problem. So far I have no idea why I have lost the coverage, I know there is a 800 MHz EDACS System putting out 25 watts on the tower and a VHF System. Both have not interfered with the Desktrac. What could this be? what possible cures could fix this problem? Thanks in advance Joe WPYU470 Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] icom question
I have a ge mastr II but I need a tx and rx icom so I can send them off and get them recrystalled to my frequency. so can I take any 5c icom and have them recrystalled to my 6m pair or should I find a pair that are already in the low band and have them recrystalled? does anyone have a pair that they would like to sell me? or should I look for a 2c icom for this? my pair is 52.930 input 53.93 output. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Repeater Question
did you check the reciever with a monitor or sinad meter? wonder if the reciever is anney count? may have a problem with it or may be a pre amp not getting power? check the reciever with a good monitor and and make sure its ok Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: zetron 30 manual
--- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, Stephane Montpetit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anybody has the zetron 30 manual? > > Need it to program it as a repeater controller. > > Thank's I have one can i help? i dont have a scanner tho so i might can type a few of the more needed commands for you or somthing. i had to pay zetron like 25.00 or so for it but the patch is cool and works great. randy AG4ZQ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Question (ICOM FR-4000)
Joe, Even if your FR-4000 is the correct split (450-470 MHz) for GMRS, it may require tuning of the receiver's front end before being placed in service. I learned the hard way, when I set up some Kenwood TKR-750/850 repeaters, that sometimes there are helical resonators in the receiver that must be optimized. The Icom unit may have a similar design in its front end. Check the service manual to see if such adjustments are required. Even if no such adjustments are required, the FR-4000 may simply be incapable of avoiding desense from nearby transmitters- even if they are far removed in frequency. If the VHF transmitter on the same tower is on a frequency that falls in or near the range of 155.850-155.908 MHz, its third harmonic will likely desense your repeater's receiver- even if it is within the FCC specs for spurious emissions. You did not mention what type of duplexer you have, but if it is the mobile notch variety, that may be part of the problem. Since GMRS is on UHF channels with a 5 MHz split, mobile notch duplexers work just fine in most applications. The problem with mobile notch duplexers is that they have no pass selectivity at all; the only adjustment is for the notch. Even pass/reject cavity duplexers have only modest bandpass selectivity. Assuming the FR-4000 receiver is properly tuned, it may be necessary to add one or two bandpass cavities between the duplexer and the receiver to tighten up the selectivity. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Question (ICOM FR-4000)
thanks Eric, I actually have a Wacom 678 4 can duplexer not the mobile type. It is a the bandpass reject type... Thanks for the info I will have to find if it needs any tuning Joe Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Custom MVP manual wanted
Try GE "kc2eus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking for a source for a GE Custom MVP manual UHF version. > > Thanks > Andrew > KC2EUS / GM1YMI > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Help Repeater Controller Choice
Greetings to the group, We need to replace our repeater controller and would appreciate any suggestions on or off the list about the following controllers or any others you think may fill our needs, it's been quite a while since we purchased a new controller. Our currant controller is the DRC-186 and it had the misfortune of a lightning storm. As some of you may know A/D Technologies no longer produces or supports their controllers. We narrowed our choices down to three: - Pacific Research RI-300 w/Doug Hall for remote base operation. - Arcom RC-210 w/Doug Hall for remote base operation. - Link Communications RLC-CLUB w/RLC-ICM for remote base operation. Actually the RI-300 is very similar to what we currently are using. The Arcom RC-210 is a very nice controller as well, however there is no phone patch and that is one thing that sure comes in handy for controlling the repeater. The Link Communications RLC-CLUB is a nice product, we have 2 RLC-1's now. At this time we are using the IC-900 band units on 2, 220, 440, 6 and 10 meters, the band units are not a sticky issue when it comes to choosing a controller. So, any suggestions about customer support, reliability and remote base operation would be greatly appreciated !!! Thanks, Bill Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] GE Custom MVP manual wanted
I'm looking for a source for a GE Custom MVP manual UHF version. Thanks Andrew KC2EUS / GM1YMI Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Kenwood TK-840 programming cable / Question
Here's a cable on ePay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=56988&item=3818674184&rd=1 Also some info here. Possible Schematic of one. http://www.cqham.ru/sch_eng.html Hope this helps. Andrew KC2EUS / GM1YMI www.kc2eus.org - Original Message - From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 17:36 Subject: [roadrunner] Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question > Thanks for the info on the TK-840.. Does anyone know > where I can get a programming cable?? I can get the > software just need to know where to get the > programming cable > > Thanks again.. > > Leon-N2HLT --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.692 / Virus Database: 453 - Release Date: 5/28/2004 Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater for trade
Hi all - I have a weather proof transportable VHF repeater that I would like to trade for a HF radio that also has at least 2 meters and 6 meters included also (440 would be nice). This is a working repeater with the following information -- Transworld Electronics, Inc TM101 transmitter and RM101 receiver --- on a 153 MHz frequency. The 25 watt repeater is rack mounted in a weather proof transportable gray case Model RP-1525 with 1/4 wave antenna included. I do not want to sell this unit, I ONLY WANT TO TRADE IT. Please contact me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as my settings for this group are set to digest mode because of the volume of email. I may not see your email of interest if you respond to this yahoo group - I can email pictures if your interested. Thanks 73 Johnny KD5LWU Cortez, Colorado http://hamcams.servepics.com/ - for ham radio and bicycling http://groups.yahoo.com/group/60upgroup/ - for bicyclist 60 and older http://hamcams.servepics.com/feetfirst.html - recumbent ham Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question
Hey Leon, You can get it from Cook Towers. That is where I got mine. Or you can have them tune and program it. There e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] They also have a toll free phone number but I do not know it off the top of my head. Ask for Kathy and tell her you are a Ham for a nice discount. Good luck, 73 Russ, W3CH - Original Message - From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question > Thanks for the info on the TK-840.. Does anyone know > where I can get a programming cable?? I can get the > software just need to know where to get the > programming cable > > Thanks again.. > > Leon-N2HLT > > > --- russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Yes it will program to the 440.000 Ham band with out > > any problem. You mite > > want to realine the receiver afterwards. I have two > > of them in the Ham bands > > and the both work great! > > 73 Russ, W3CH > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:59 AM > > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question > > > > > > > Hello to the group... > > > > > > I have a Kenwood TK-840 mobile and would like to > > know > > > if it would program into the 440 band or maybe > > into > > > the 430 band?? > > > > > > Thanks, Leon-N2HLT > > > > > > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question
Thanks for the info on the TK-840.. Does anyone know where I can get a programming cable?? I can get the software just need to know where to get the programming cable Thanks again.. Leon-N2HLT --- russ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello All, > Yes it will program to the 440.000 Ham band with out > any problem. You mite > want to realine the receiver afterwards. I have two > of them in the Ham bands > and the both work great! > 73 Russ, W3CH > > - Original Message - > From: "Leon Ingerick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 9:59 AM > Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Kenwood TK-840 Question > > > > Hello to the group... > > > > I have a Kenwood TK-840 mobile and would like to > know > > if it would program into the 440 band or maybe > into > > the 430 band?? > > > > Thanks, Leon-N2HLT > > > > http://www.expage.com/n2hlt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] icom question
They are not band specific,but dont mix rx and tx.A 5C is more than adequate for 6 meters. See the GE Icom section in the website at repeater-builder.com - Original Message - From: David To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 1:22 PM Subject: [Repeater-Builder] icom question I have a ge mastr II but I need a tx and rx icom so I can send them off and get them recrystalled to my frequency. so can I take any 5c icom and have them recrystalled to my 6m pair or should I find a pair that are already in the low band and have them recrystalled? does anyone have a pair that they would like to sell me? or should I look for a 2c icom for this? my pair is 52.930 input 53.93 output. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Amp Key Line Help Needed
I have aquired an amp for the repeater. It is a Motorola Micor Amp, TLD1693E Amp. Does any one know the power input requirement and what the power output should be on this amp. Also the SWA goes to ground to key the amp, how would I be able to find a circuit inside the exciter that goes to ground, or what would be the easiest way to make a switch for this to key up when the COS is opened. Currently my COS is high. Any ideas. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Amp Key Line Help Needed
Mathew, The TLD1693E Power Amplifier is rated at 100 watts continuous duty, for the 150.8 to 162 MHz split. It is designed to provide full output with an RF drive of about 400 mW. The DC power input is 12.8 VDC at 20.5 A. The small pin on the side of the amplifier connects to one of the Keyed A- terminals on the backplane. The power control board is integral with the amplifier. Be aware, this PA will not work on 2m without modification. 73, Eric Lemmon WB6FLY w9mwq wrote: > > I have aquired an amp for the repeater. It is a Motorola Micor Amp, > TLD1693E Amp. Does any one know the power input requirement and > what the power output should be on this amp. Also the SWA goes to > ground to key the amp, how would I be able to find a circuit inside > the exciter that goes to ground, or what would be the easiest way to > make a switch for this to key up when the COS is opened. Currently > my COS is high. Any ideas. Thanks. > > Mathew > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Maxtrac
I was told their is a Cable in Most Computers that I can cut off and it will Plug Directly into the Back of the 16 Pin on the Maxtrac , dos anyone know what plug this is on Hard Drive etc ? Also I need the Pin out Looking for PTT And Mic audio in Happy and Safe Memorial Day , Don KA9QJG Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: Motorola Micor Amp Key Line Help Needed
It's a MICOR VHF 100-Watt continuous-duty rated PA Deck, for the 150.8 to 162 MHz Range. The input power is about a half watt (actually 0.4 watts) for typically 100 watts out. Your best bet is to get a MICOR manual to see how to set it up. The actual PA circuit board is the same in the MICOR continuous duty stations, intermittent duty stations, and even in the 100-watt mobile radio. Just in case you're going to use it in the 2-Meter ham band, you probably want to convert it to the 136-150 MHz range as a TLD1692 Series amp would be. Otherwise it will eventually start oscillating and burn itself up. But the conversion is a big job - I've done 4 or 5 of them over the years - you almost strip the circuit board and repopulate it with the correct 2M range caps, coils, transformers, variable caps and resistors. The parts from Motorola weren't inexpensive, either. But at the time, it was either rebuild them or do without, so I rebuilt the receiver, exciter and PA deck to be actual 2-Meter range units as Motorola had designed. It has been well worth the work in the great performance they've provided all these years. I wouldn't do it again now that I have found a bunch of actual TLD1692s over the last few years on the internet, and I've bought them when they were offered to keep as spares for my 2M Repeaters. Of course now that I have several spares of everything, nothing ever fails (except the controllers!) Larry K7LJ Original Message: - From: w9mwq [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 May 2004 22:19:36 - To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Motorola Micor Amp Key Line Help Needed I have aquired an amp for the repeater. It is a Motorola Micor Amp, TLD1693E Amp. Does any one know the power input requirement and what the power output should be on this amp. Also the SWA goes to ground to key the amp, how would I be able to find a circuit inside the exciter that goes to ground, or what would be the easiest way to make a switch for this to key up when the COS is opened. Currently my COS is high. Any ideas. Thanks. Mathew Yahoo! Groups Links mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GE Custom MVP manual wanted
Hi Andrew; I have a original GE UHF MVP manual for sale, It is in "GREAT" condition! $25.00 Plus shipping. Thanks, Bill N8LXM kc2eus wrote: >I'm looking for a source for a GE Custom MVP manual UHF version. > >Thanks >Andrew >KC2EUS / GM1YMI > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
