Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: CSI Controler
I remember when one of our commercial business band repeater frequencies was full. By full, I mean all of the known CTCSS tones were used. As luck would have it, a new customer of a certain radio shop added still another customer to the very busy channel - and told that customer they would have to share the CTCSS tone. That shared tone was with one of our customers. Neil skipp025 wrote: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a new one ... hasn't been announced as yet ... will be able to handle more than 154 subscribers. Some existing tone panels will access non standard sub tones and digital codes. If you count the non-standard tones, you may end up with more than 154 different slots to fill. If you've got over 5 to 10 commercial customers on one repeater, you really need to jump to trunking unless you like to hear them complain. LTR is a cost effective format. Until it is launched, that is all I can say. CSI LT-4200 trunking controllers, works great... lasts a long time. 73, Neil McKie Cheers Neil, skipp www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: CSI Controler
There was this one company in the southern California area - had the channel all to themselves - no one else would go near it after listening for a while. They had three repeaters, all on the same frequency pair, scattered around the greater Los Angeles area. They had 116 mobiles, and 18? licensed control points. One of the control points had 14 or 15 desk sets in operation. The channel would start up and going about 6am and quit about 7pm ... each day. Neil Jim B. wrote: skipp025 wrote: Neil McKie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a new one ... hasn't been announced as yet ... will be able to handle more than 154 subscribers. Some existing tone panels will access non standard sub tones and digital codes. If you count the non-standard tones, you may end up with more than 154 different slots to fill. If you've got over 5 to 10 commercial customers on one repeater, you really need to jump to trunking unless you like to hear them complain. LTR is a cost effective format. I wasn't gonna get into that, but that's VERY true. We used to have problems on 1 or 2 CR's that only had 3-4 users. They just had that many radios, and talked that much...school buses are notorious chatters. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
I have my amateur, GROL, and state license for those very reasons (as well as the state license being a requirement) James Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ All outgoing email scanned with Norton AntiVirus2004. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[Repeater-Builder] Re: GROL - benefit?
What's the state license for, Other than just another way to fatten up the till? AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
I remember years ago there was an article in an MRT magazine about a TV station owner who had a ham working for him as a tech. While travelling to an out of town location to do a remote, they had lost the feed-horn from a link dish. The owner stated the tech made a temporary feed by taking a piece of coaxial cable stripping the insulation back, folding the braid and center conductor to create a dipole and used it It saved the day. He again said whenever I get a job applicant and if his/her resume shows being a HAM operator guess what Just goes to show you that it does have value. Tony VE3DWI It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job.73, Joe, k1ike Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 19/08/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.742 / Virus Database: 495 - Release Date: 19/08/2004
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: GROL - benefit?
Your reason is about right ... The GROL was harder and more encompassing than the state license Coy Hilton wrote: What's the state license for, Other than just another way to fatten up the till? AC0Y --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [SPAM] - RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Question - Email found in subject
Thanks Larry, that's just what I was hoping to hear. ;) Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:08 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] - RE: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Question - Email found in subject No modifications needed, just recrystal the channel elements and retune to your new ham frequency. I have a 100-watt MSR-2000 Repeater I'm just getting ready to sell, it's tuned up in the ham bands on a 444/449 pair. Works great, makes all original specs for receiver sensitivity, transmit power, etc. Make sure you have the service manual. LJ Original Message: - From: Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:32:47 -0400 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Question Anyone know what mods, if any, are needed to bring a UHF MSR2000 repeater, currently on 460Mhz, down into the 440 range, other than recrystalling? Thanks. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: CSI Controler
Neil McKie wrote: I remember when one of our commercial business band repeater frequencies was full. By full, I mean all of the known CTCSS tones were used. As luck would have it, a new customer of a certain radio shop added still another customer to the very busy channel - and told that customer they would have to share the CTCSS tone. That shared tone was with one of our customers. Neil yuck...sounds like the start of a repeater war to me... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of fact), or one of several others. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Wanted: GE Mastr II 4EX8K12 Test Set - W3KKC
I am looking for a Test Set for the GE Mastr II, 4EX8K12 in good working and physical condition. Please reply directly. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Kevin Custer List Owner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
To but it simple. It will get you in the door. Then it is up to you. 73 Russ, - Original Message - From: Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit? Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of fact), or one of several others. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No modifications needed, just recrystal the channel elements and retune to your new ham frequency. I have a 100-watt MSR-2000 Repeater I'm just getting ready to sell, it's tuned up in the ham bands on a 444/449 pair. Works great, makes all original specs for receiver sensitivity, transmit power, etc. Make sure you have the service manual. LJ And you'll need the service manual. Running the UHF 110 watt pa at the full rated power in the Amateur range is a recipe for failure. The PA filter board version has a lot to do with how well the pa preforms out of its normal band/range. Early filter boards (substrates) are trouble prone gremlins. Good luck skipp www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] re: MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band
Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Skipp. I believe the fella I'm getting them from has a manual available as well. Great, the manuals are really a must have. To cover the UHF MSR, you actually need all three manuals (unless you have the microfiche). The power supplies are only covered in the VHF (green) manual. I was going to run it at about 80 watts instead of the full 110. You'd do better to run 65 watts. I've not had a derated UHF ~65 watt pa fail when used with a circulator/isolator. They also have the factory duplexers with them, and I'm ASSuming they should tune down as well? Kevin K2KMB Yes, if the duplexer probe kits are the 450-470 range units. Also check the duplexer for an over re-entrant energy coupling problem. It requires a spectral display with tracking gen. I've found on a few MSR UHF 450-470 versions. This will show up as an wider (broader) than normal bandpass peak that doesn't seem to allow both pass cavities in one path to completely align as one peak. I've not yet seen this problem with the T-1500 series of motorhead duplexers. Lightning stricks might be one cause of this problem, the duplexer operation will be less than good enough. I've traced this issue to 3 different UHF duplexers sent in from various (and different) east cost locations where lightning is a regular event. I'll stay with the west coast earth quakes thank you. A previous RB post mentioned a problem with the MSR Receiver front end suffering damage from lightning strikes. The msr receiver problem might be an extention of the same duplexer damage event. It does take a spectral display/graph to really see the probe kit problem. good luck skipp www.radiowrench.com/sonic Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject
Thanks Skipp. I believe the fella I'm getting them from has a manual available as well. I was going to run it at about 80 watts instead of the full 110. They also have the factory duplexers with them, and I'm ASSuming they should tune down as well? Kevin K2KMB -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:42 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No modifications needed, just recrystal the channel elements and retune to your new ham frequency. I have a 100-watt MSR-2000 Repeater I'm just getting ready to sell, it's tuned up in the ham bands on a 444/449 pair. Works great, makes all original specs for receiver sensitivity, transmit power, etc. Make sure you have the service manual. LJ And you'll need the service manual. Running the UHF 110 watt pa at the full rated power in the Amateur range is a recipe for failure. The PA filter board version has a lot to do with how well the pa preforms out of its normal band/range. Early filter boards (substrates) are trouble prone gremlins. Good luck skipp www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: CSI Controler
This was back in the early seventies. We were a Motorola Service Station The radio shop that 'dumped' the new customer on the same CTCSS tone was a GE shop. Our shop had access to a device that automatically noted every CTCSS tone used on a given channel and also counted each time that CTCSS tone was used. We called the device a tattle-tale. Worked for us. We could easily determine which CTCSS tone was available without having to try every tone before trying to assign a customer to the unused tone. Neil Jim B. wrote: Neil McKie wrote: I remember when one of our commercial business band repeater frequencies was full. By full, I mean all of the known CTCSS tones were used. As luck would have it, a new customer of a certain radio shop added still another customer to the very busy channel - and told that customer they would have to share the CTCSS tone. That shared tone was with one of our customers. Neil yuck...sounds like the start of a repeater war to me... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject
I'm hoping to get one of them this weekend so I can see what channel elements are in it and order the crystals up. Are there standard elements used in these units, or different types? Kevin -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:42 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] No modifications needed, just recrystal the channel elements and retune to your new ham frequency. I have a 100-watt MSR-2000 Repeater I'm just getting ready to sell, it's tuned up in the ham bands on a 444/449 pair. Works great, makes all original specs for receiver sensitivity, transmit power, etc. Make sure you have the service manual. LJ And you'll need the service manual. Running the UHF 110 watt pa at the full rated power in the Amateur range is a recipe for failure. The PA filter board version has a lot to do with how well the pa preforms out of its normal band/range. Early filter boards (substrates) are trouble prone gremlins. Good luck skipp www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] tone panel wars
I remember when one of our commercial business band repeater frequencies was full. By full, I mean all of the known CTCSS tones were used. One tone panel function, which should be deleted from every tone panel feature/software function list, is the ability to reserve a tone/dcs code with a non audio passing beep tone. In the tone panel global (all users) settings, Alpha Hotel radio types would enable the tone panel reserve beep tone function for every code that one AH person didn't have in current service. GMRS operations in the SF Bay Area were pretty much useless for some years. As luck would have it, a new customer of a certain radio shop added still another customer to the very busy channel - and told that customer they would have to share the CTCSS tone. This problem screams for LTR trunking. yuck...sounds like the start of a repeater war to me... Jim Barbour Still happens to this day. The only realistic resolution to these type problems are trunking, frequency/site relocation and American Tower killing all cost effective community repeaters with 6 times-plus vault repeater rent increases. cheers, skipp www.radiowrench.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] MSR2000 Channel Elements
Title: MSR2000 Channel Elements I have a part number of KXN1095A for the TX channel element on the UHF MSR2000. Does anyone know the corresponding RX channel element number? The MSR being looked at doesnt have a RX element in it, but I have a bunch of different elements laying around and want to see if I have the needed one. Thanks. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
I have the GROL, the APCO and the PCIA equivalents. Neil - WA6KLA Jim B. wrote: Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of fact), or one of several others. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Fw:
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lynn [EMAIL PROTECTED]; post [EMAIL PROTECTED]; al [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Nancy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dar [EMAIL PROTECTED]; shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED]; peggy [EMAIL PROTECTED]; fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 10:20 PM Subject: Fw: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:12 PM A woman asks her husband, Would you like some bacon and eggs? A slice of toast and maybe some grapefruit and coffee? she asks. He declines. Thanks for asking, but I'm not hungry right now. It's this Viagra, he says. It's really taken the edge off my appetite. At lunchtime she asked if he would like something. A bowl of soup, homemade muffins, or a cheese sandwich? He declines. The Viagra, he says, really trashes my desire for food. Come dinnertime, she asks if he wants anything to eat. Would you like a juicy porterhouse steak and scrumptious apple pie? Or maybe a rotisserie chicken or tasty stir fry? He declines again. Naw, still not hungry. Well, she says, would you mind letting me up? I'm starving. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] re: MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject
Skipp, Thanks. I just looked here in the shop and we already have the manuals for a UHF MSR2000. ;) These were in working condition when removed from service a few weeks ago due to system upgrades and had no issues. The are complete systems, with duplexers and battery revert options already on them and were going to be tossed into the dumpster!! A fellow ham, and employee of the place, rescued them before it happened, and donated 2 of the 4 units he got to me, so you cant beat that with a stick. :) Not sure if they have a preamp or not yet, but hope to find out this weekend. I will take your suggestion and run it at a lower power. The 2 systems these will be replacing are not very heavily used so I shouldn't have any issues. I already have a pinout of where I need to grab my controller connections off the backplane for the squelch card and I'm ordering the crystals up now. Retuning and checking the duplexers should be no problem on the service monitors here. I'll check the bandpass on them but I suspect they are ok, since these were used by a FD in a large city, in a heavy rf area right across from NYC so I'm sure they would notice if they had problems with them. Kevin -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:33 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] re: MSR-2000 UHF PA in the Amateur Band - Email found in subject Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Skipp. I believe the fella I'm getting them from has a manual available as well. Great, the manuals are really a must have. To cover the UHF MSR, you actually need all three manuals (unless you have the microfiche). The power supplies are only covered in the VHF (green) manual. I was going to run it at about 80 watts instead of the full 110. You'd do better to run 65 watts. I've not had a derated UHF ~65 watt pa fail when used with a circulator/isolator. They also have the factory duplexers with them, and I'm ASSuming they should tune down as well? Kevin K2KMB Yes, if the duplexer probe kits are the 450-470 range units. Also check the duplexer for an over re-entrant energy coupling problem. It requires a spectral display with tracking gen. I've found on a few MSR UHF 450-470 versions. This will show up as an wider (broader) than normal bandpass peak that doesn't seem to allow both pass cavities in one path to completely align as one peak. I've not yet seen this problem with the T-1500 series of motorhead duplexers. Lightning stricks might be one cause of this problem, the duplexer operation will be less than good enough. I've traced this issue to 3 different UHF duplexers sent in from various (and different) east cost locations where lightning is a regular event. I'll stay with the west coast earth quakes thank you. A previous RB post mentioned a problem with the MSR Receiver front end suffering damage from lightning strikes. The msr receiver problem might be an extention of the same duplexer damage event. It does take a spectral display/graph to really see the probe kit problem. good luck skipp www.radiowrench.com/sonic Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
HAHAHA.. that's my last name! Ben Naber, KB9LFZ --- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of fact), or one of several others. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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RE: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit?
It used to be the name of PCIA long ago...it stood for National Association of Business and Educational Radio. Also Naber Certified, PCIA Certified, FCC RadioTelephone ad naseum. Gregg R. Lengling, W9DHI, Retired Administrator http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org K2/100 S#3075 KX1 S# 57 Member: ARRL, RSGB, RCA, WERA and ORC -Original Message- From: Benjamin Naber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 12:52 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] GROL - benefit? HAHAHA.. that's my last name! Ben Naber, KB9LFZ --- Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe wrote: It may not have any official benefit to many jobs, but it certainly can be an advantage as an additional factor on a resume. This also applies for an amateur radio license. It demonstrates that you have an interest in radio and have the ability to learn about a subject and pass an aptitude test. It may just be what gets you the interview, but probably will not what will get you the job. 73, Joe, k1ike At 06:12 PM 10/20/2004, you wrote: howdy all, what's the benefit of getting a GROL license? ~Ben, KB9LFZ A lot of two-way radio shops require either a GROL or an equivalent certification from, say, APCO or PCIA (used to be NABER as a matter of fact), or one of several others. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
I am in need of the right adapter cable to go from the test set to a mitrek mobile. Test set is model S1056C. If anyone has one they are willing to part with or knows where I can get one that would be very helpful! Feel free to E-mail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 Channel Elements
If you use (my preference) Bomar in NJ, simply tell them you have KXN-1086 and KXN-1088 mitrek elements. New rocks are $10 to $15 each if you do the change yourself. Big cost savings and fairly easy to do with normal electronic tools. The KXN-1095 is probably the higher spec base station msr channel element. It's not a required animal. In fact a high spec crystal (rock) is a lot more expensive. The mitrek ordered rocks should work in the 1095 element, no problama. Mitrek elements should work fine in the MSR-2000... been there, done that... coffee mug and tee shirt. cheers skipp Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a part number of KXN1095A for the TX channel element on the UHF MSR2000. Does anyone know the corresponding RX channel element number? The MSR being looked at doesn't have a RX element in it, but I have a bunch of different elements laying around and want to see if I have the needed one. Thanks. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
At 12:02 PM 10/21/2004 -0700, you wrote: I 'think' it should be the same as your Micor test cable. Two different style connectors, Neal. The Micor (of course) is a square, 7 pin one. The Mitrek is a round, 11 pin one Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:07:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I 'think' it should be the same as your Micor test cable. Neil Nope! The mitrek, motracand motran are had round "test ports" not the 7 pin micor plug. Thanks! Brian, wd9hsy Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 Channel Elements - Email found in subject
Thanks Skipp. I have both the 1086 and 1088 elements. I assume the 1086 is TX and 1088 is RX? Kevin -Original Message- From: skipp025 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 2:18 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [SPAM] - [Repeater-Builder] Re: MSR2000 Channel Elements - Email found in subject If you use (my preference) Bomar in NJ, simply tell them you have KXN-1086 and KXN-1088 mitrek elements. New rocks are $10 to $15 each if you do the change yourself. Big cost savings and fairly easy to do with normal electronic tools. The KXN-1095 is probably the higher spec base station msr channel element. It's not a required animal. In fact a high spec crystal (rock) is a lot more expensive. The mitrek ordered rocks should work in the 1095 element, no problama. Mitrek elements should work fine in the MSR-2000... been there, done that... coffee mug and tee shirt. cheers skipp Kevin Bednar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a part number of KXN1095A for the TX channel element on the UHF MSR2000. Does anyone know the corresponding RX channel element number? The MSR being looked at doesn't have a RX element in it, but I have a bunch of different elements laying around and want to see if I have the needed one. Thanks. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
Should have added that the orginal cable came with the right angle plug and a 11 pin plug on the other end, which then plugs into the cable required for the mitrek. coverts the 11 pin plug to the round metering plug for the mitrek Ray - Original Message - From: TGundo 2003 To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable I have the micor one with the test set already, which is retangular. The mitrek does indeed need the round plug, which is the one I need. Thanks! Tom, W9SRV[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/21/2004 2:07:09 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I 'think' it should be the same as your Micor test cable. Neil Nope! The mitrek, motracand motran are had round "test ports" not the 7 pin micor plug. Thanks! Brian, wd9hsy Do you Yahoo!?Express yourself with Y! Messenger! Free. Download now. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
Good point, had forgotten about that - thanks Ken, Neil BTW, will you be at Rickreall? Ken Arck wrote: At 12:02 PM 10/21/2004 -0700, you wrote: I 'think' it should be the same as your Micor test cable. Two different style connectors, Neal. The Micor (of course) is a square, 7 pin one. The Mitrek is a round, 11 pin one Ken --- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Mitrek test set cable
At 11:12 AM 10/21/04, you wrote: I am in need of the right adapter cable to go from the test set to a mitrek mobile. Test set is model S1056C. If anyone has one they are willing to part with or knows where I can get one that would be very helpful! Feel free to E-mail me direct at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Best to watch ebay for a cable that you can modify. A while back I ordered out the connector body, shell and hold-down clamp (all the pieces for the end that plugs into the front of the test set) and it totaled about $60 Best you get a cable - any cable - and take whatever end is on it and replace it with a DB-25 or DB-37 (I forget how many pins the original Moto connector has), then make up your own cables that have the appropriate DB on them (i.e. use the moto cable as nothing more than an adapter cable). There were some industrial relays that had the same plug on them as Moto used in the Motrac / Mocom / Mitrek test connectors. You might be able to find one and gut it for the base. Mike WA6ILQ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
