RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
No, the frequency that I am on is 146.925, and he is on 146.910, we are 15 Khz away, a user was attempting to use my repeater where his signal passes through their repeater, he was using about 160 watts of power with a beam to get into the system. His signal then caused the 91 repeater to key up. States it was getting into a remote site. The coordinator is not budging on this one, tells me that I am lucky that he is giving me a frequency at all as there is none to be had. So now for the expense of changing all the xtals and retuning and just more work. Mathew From: NØATH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:53 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers Matthew - I was looking at the Indianna Repeater council page and it only shows the call you mention on 146.910 - not .925 - Is it possible the coordinators messed up and he is on the wrong freq? Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Sounds like politics to me. The coordinator should have first stayed out of this, per FCC guidelines, and recommend that the repeater owners work it out between themselves. Then, if the situation is not resolved, the coordinator should step in. The coordinator then must determine if the specified coordination guidelines were violated. If it were my repeater, I would ask the coordinator exactly what guideline am I in violation of? Then, if I feel I was at fault of violating my coordination guidelines, I would consider a move. Incidentally, coordination does not always protect the users of the repeater, just the repeater. Coordination does not guarantee absolute interference free reception on the part of the repeater or the user. 73, Joe K1ike At 04:47 AM 2/25/2005 -0800, you wrote: The coordinator is not budging on this one, tells me that I am lucky that he is giving me a frequency at all as there is none to be had. So now for the expense of changing all the xtals and retuning and just more work. Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Bob Dengler wrote: At 2/23/2005 03:46 PM, you wrote: Well it seems that I am told I have to change frequencies, has it that one of my users interferred with the same troublesome repeater I've had all along, and now the coordinator says I have to move. Not sure how well all the equipment will handle the change. Here is what I have as equipment, and will it all make it there. We are moving from 146.925- to 145.410-, and the expense is the last thing I needed right now. Don't take this wrong way, but I know we have had a LOT of problems in this area with people using high profile base stations (25W or more, antenna more than 30-40') to use the local repeater. The user getting into the other repeater wasn't something like that, was he? There's normally no reason to use more than 10W and no more then 3-6 dB gain at 20' to work local repeaters. Or maybe a 4-element yagi? I usually use 1W and unity gain. I remember a friend of mine getting complaints from a repeater abt 160-170 miles away. He was running one watt into a 3dB gain vertical on top of his house-abt 25'. He routinely got into the other repeater... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] FS: Scom 7k and ACC RC-850
milguy111 wrote: I have two controllers available for sale. Pictures are on request TO SERIOUS PARTIES ONLY. I have upgraded to LINK-COMM controllers throughout our systems... First is a Scom 7k, with voice and phonepatch - has most recent firmware in it (V2.03). This controller has the enclosure and LED front. Includes the manual and I think I have the programming software somewhere. Price on this one is $650. Gee-since when is going from a 7K to a Link-Comm an upgrade??? I'm trying to talk our club into 'upgrading' from the RLC-3 to the 7330 (when it comes out in a few months...) -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Need Answers - Coordination
Yep, I use a mkIIg turned down as low as it will go, and constantly bring up Kevin's Mays Hill repeater (KQ3M I think?) from my QTH in Stafford, VA while trying to access our local machine. I also seem to open his machine a lot running mobile from around 40 miles South of Wash. - D.C. I have run a path profile, and we do not have line-of-sight, not even close!! Must be ducting or something. Frequently I hear his at S-7 or more!! Sorry to be a pest Kevin.. Lots of un-explained things in this world, we just try to live with each others contribution. Mike K5JMP At 11:10 AM 02/25/2005 -0500, you wrote: Bob Dengler wrote: At 2/23/2005 03:46 PM, you wrote: Well it seems that I am told I have to change frequencies, has it that one of my users interferred with the same troublesome repeater I've had all along, and now the coordinator says I have to move. Not sure how well all the equipment will handle the change. Here is what I have as equipment, and will it all make it there. We are moving from 146.925- to 145.410-, and the expense is the last thing I needed right now. Don't take this wrong way, but I know we have had a LOT of problems in this area with people using high profile base stations (25W or more, antenna more than 30-40') to use the local repeater. The user getting into the other repeater wasn't something like that, was he? There's normally no reason to use more than 10W and no more then 3-6 dB gain at 20' to work local repeaters. Or maybe a 4-element yagi? I usually use 1W and unity gain. I remember a friend of mine getting complaints from a repeater abt 160-170 miles away. He was running one watt into a 3dB gain vertical on top of his house-abt 25'. He routinely got into the other repeater... -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Mathew Quaife wrote: No, the frequency that I am on is 146.925, and he is on 146.910, we are 15 Khz away, a user was attempting to use my repeater where his signal passes through their repeater, he was using about 160 watts of power with a beam to get into the system. His signal then caused the 91 repeater to key up. States it was getting into a remote site. The coordinator is not budging on this one, tells me that I am lucky that he is giving me a frequency at all as there is none to be had. So now for the expense of changing all the xtals and retuning and just more work. Mathew Your response didn't show up here till after I posted...ya-phooey. I see a BUNCH of problems here. Number 1: Tell your user to drop his power 160W is 10-13 dB TOO MUCH! He should be down around 10W, preferably less! Number 2: It also sounds like either his transmitter is dirty (Quite likely at that power level!), or the other repeater has a crappy rx. Unless the guy is within a mile or less of the other rx, he should not be bothering it. Number 3: While action needs to be taken, simply changing freqs is NOT the anwswer. I don't know how far apart the two repeaters are, but because they are 15 Khz apart, they should coexist just fine as long as they are more then, oh, maybe 50 miles apart. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
I need to take this off the thread, so if all that are interested, please email me directly. I feel there is more to this than meets the common eye, so lets take it off the thread and I will let you know where it all stands. Thanks. Mathew [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 25, 2005 8:44 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers Mathew Quaife wrote: No, the frequency that I am on is 146.925, and he is on 146.910, we are 15 Khz away, a user was attempting to use my repeater where his signal passes through their repeater, he was using about 160 watts of power with a beam to get into the system. His signal then caused the 91 repeater to key up. States it was getting into a remote site. The coordinator is not budging on this one, tells me that I am lucky that he is giving me a frequency at all as there is none to be had. So now for the expense of changing all the xtals and retuning and just more work. Mathew Your response didn't show up here till after I posted...ya-phooey. I see a BUNCH of problems here. Number 1: Tell your user to drop his power 160W is 10-13 dB TOO MUCH! He should be down around 10W, preferably less! Number 2: It also sounds like either his transmitter is dirty (Quite likely at that power level!), or the other repeater has a crappy rx. Unless the guy is within a mile or less of the other rx, he should not be bothering it. Number 3: While action needs to be taken, simply changing freqs is NOT the anwswer. I don't know how far apart the two repeaters are, but because they are 15 Khz apart, they should coexist just fine as long as they are more then, oh, maybe 50 miles apart. -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF
try brassies first and if that doesnt help much, add the wire. The helicals I had I used 1/4watt resistor lead. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 22:09:24 -0600, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the front end is from a standard RPT-21 there is approx 4 complete turns of wire the size of a 1n4001 diode lead.. and well matter of fact the same material and it has aluminum slugs - Original Message - From: DCFluX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF We need a little more information on the repeater you have, such as the model number and the rough dimensions of the coils and the cavity. I have converted a Yaseu FTC-4610 from 474 to 443MHz (With .32uV sensitivity) by adding 1/2 of a turn to the top of the coils, perhaps the same can be accomplished here. Also you can try replacing the slugs with a different material such as Brass or Aluminum to shift the resonance, I have used brass screws on a VHF micor with good but not perfect results. On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 20:55:42 -0600, Brent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SPEAKING of front ends... I have a set of helical Resonator from a standard repeater... and it is on 467.2 rx and moving it to the 448.000 Everything else tunes up just fine, so the thought was to add about 1/4 of same material and size wire that it is already wrapped with so the tuning slugs wont be so far down in the cans...(not much height on the cans themselves). and a 1/4 could it me that much that the slugs are now out of the can.. ??? or would I want to try to move the Tap on the coil first any thoughts. thanks Brent Yahoo! Groups Links --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses at TNWEB LLC] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Helical Front end UHF
Downbanded some T Band Fleetcom II's by adding abt 1/2 turn of #12 solid copper wire to the existing helicals. Worked just fine. Steve NU5D Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Scom 7k and ACC RC-850
My thoughts exactly Jim... but repeater controllers are a season to taste item. I was sad to see the SComm 7K get phased out of production, trying very hard with Vyex Dave to get Bob to do one more production run. Alas we were not able to convice Bob to make another last run, even with promises of some pre-production controller orders. . The 7K with the Vyex DAB and a CAT Auto RBS-1000 linking board is just the killer controller setup. Good software really stands up to the test of time, even better when the hardware is hardy as found in the ACC and SComm Brand of Controllers. Just as a sidebar, I've bought many an item from milguy Doug through the years, mostly via Ebay. He's a first rate honest guy. I'd by the 7K myself, but the price is a bit above what I want to pay. The last base 7K price was $395. The current 7K Software version is up to at least 2.04d with the Vyex DAB installed. The 7330 has a lot of built in bells, whistles and radio ports. Hope it gets out on time as advertised. cheers, skipp skipp025 at yahoo.com Jim B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gee-since when is going from a 7K to a Link-Comm an upgrade??? I'm trying to talk our club into 'upgrading' from the RLC-3 to the 7330 (when it comes out in a few months...) Jim Barbour WD8CHL milguy111 wrote: I have two controllers available for sale. Pictures are on request TO SERIOUS PARTIES ONLY. I have upgraded to LINK-COMM controllers throughout our systems... First is a Scom 7k, with voice and phonepatch - has most recent firmware in it (V2.03). This controller has the enclosure and LED front. Includes the manual and I think I have the programming software somewhere. Price on this one is $650. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Re: FS: Scom 7k and ACC RC-850
skipp025 wrote: The 7330 has a lot of built in bells, whistles and radio ports. Hope it gets out on time as advertised. cheers, skipp ...and the rumor is that it will be a bit cheaper then a loaded 7K also... ;c} -- Jim Barbour WD8CHL Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KQ3M Repeater (was Need Answers - Coordination)
Mike Perryman wrote: Yep, I use a mkIIg turned down as low as it will go, and constantly bring up Kevin's Mays Hill repeater (KQ3M I think?) from my QTH in Stafford, VA while trying to access our local machine. I also seem to open his machine a lot running mobile from around 40 miles South of Wash. - D.C. I have run a path profile, and we do not have line-of-sight, not even close!! Must be ducting or something. Frequently I hear his at S-7 or more!! Sorry to be a pest Kevin.. Lots of un-explained things in this world, we just try to live with each others contribution. Mike K5JMP The KQ3M repeater is located near Meyersdale PA on the Allegheny Front at a place called the Hay's Mill Fire Tower, which I privately own. It's the 3rd highest repeater in Pennsylvania on 2M at just over 3000 feet. It runs a coordinated power level of 250 watts into the duplexer. The antenna is a Sinclair SRL-229 cut for the middle of the ham band an is 85 feet to the middle of the array. My site is SUPER QUIET, I really am blessed, and with the tube PA, I have no problems running a FET preamp in front of the Micor RX, even with only a 4 cavity WACOM 641, and no additional filtering. I make no bones about it, its a wide area coverage repeater, and it works... When you invest the time, money, and effort into a great site, you'll have a repeater that will work beyond the expectations of some. The repeaters main receiver works so well, even at 250 watts transmitter power the machine is balanced when using a 50 watt Japanese mobile radio. The remote sites are down right now because Scott Zimmerman and I are designing a new voter, and I sold the old one. Believe me Mike, you aren't a pest. If bringing up the machine bothers you (causes you heterodyne at an uncomfortable level) or other members of the community locally, I'll PL the KQ3M repeater, or I may choose to run Anti PL if you folks are encoding for access to your own repeater. I use 123.0 Hertz, hope you don't... The site and equipment is detailed on these pages: http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/ http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmft.html http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmftinfo.html http://www.qrz.com/kq3m Comments welcome. Kevin Custer Owner of KQ3M Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
HI Matt, It seems to me that if one of your users (not a very informed one, at that!) is interfering with another repeater, that is between him and the other repeater owner. The interfering user should learn to use his CTCSS! I'd toss this hot potato back into the coordinator's court! He's trying to take the easy way out by going nuclear on the first salvo. Were you given a conditional coordination? If so, then perhaps the coordinator has a leg to stand on. Don't give up too easily on this one. 73 de Tom/W4OKW Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Digest Number 2992
H? Change PL and the problem goes away! Simple fix! Your freq pair is coordinated, but you can select any PL you like. Go for it! 73 de Tom/W4OKW Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KQ3M Repeater (was Need Answers - Coordination)
Look for inserted text... At 02:48 PM 02/25/2005 -0500, you wrote: Mike Perryman wrote: Yep, I use a mkIIg turned down as low as it will go, and constantly bring up Kevin's Mays Hill repeater (KQ3M I think?) from my QTH in Stafford, VA while trying to access our local machine. I also seem to open his machine a lot running mobile from around 40 miles South of Wash. - D.C. I have run a path profile, and we do not have line-of-sight, not even close!! Must be ducting or something. Frequently I hear his at S-7 or more!! Sorry to be a pest Kevin.. Lots of un-explained things in this world, we just try to live with each others contribution. Mike K5JMP The KQ3M repeater is located near Meyersdale PA on the Allegheny Front at a place called the Hay's Mill Fire Tower, which I privately own. It's the 3rd highest repeater in Pennsylvania on 2M at just over 3000 feet. It runs a coordinated power level of 250 watts into the duplexer. The antenna is a Sinclair SRL-229 cut for the middle of the ham band an is 85 feet to the middle of the array. My site is SUPER QUIET, I really am blessed, and with the tube PA, I have no problems running a FET preamp in front of the Micor RX, even with only a 4 cavity WACOM 641, and no additional filtering. Yup, well within your coordination... we have spoken several times regarding our mutual pair over the years.. I make no bones about it, its a wide area coverage repeater, and it works... When you invest the time, money, and effort into a great site, you'll have a repeater that will work beyond the expectations of some. The repeaters main receiver works so well, even at 250 watts transmitter power the machine is balanced when using a 50 watt Japanese mobile radio. The remote sites are down right now because Scott Zimmerman and I are designing a new voter, and I sold the old one. Yup, works like a charm. But, if there is any enhancement to conditions at all your machine is loud and proud down here. And it hears VERY well. I'm not complaining... actually, more like jealous!! That thing rocks!! Most likely the reason we don't give you any problems is that we are only feeding an X-700-(YUK!) with 65 watts from approx 275 feet above ground. Free space loss kicks our hind-end before we get close to your service area... Unless there is some ducting going on. Then all bets are off, who knows where it will end up. I had a guy in Topeka, KS check in on our machine July 6 of last year. He was using a mobile rig, and a 5/8 wave mag-mount stuck to a filing cabinet in his office. Wicked opening... only QSL card I have ever sent for a repeater contact.. LOL!! I guess I could check what the AMSL height is... but that would be almost like work. g! I will see if I can find the old path profile... gotta be here somewhere... I think the last time we spoke was shortly after 9-11... so it's been a while. Seems like I also remember that machine being used to coordinate support for the 9-11 flight that crashed up there. Believe me Mike, you aren't a pest. If bringing up the machine bothers you (causes you heterodyne at an uncomfortable level) or other members of the community locally, I'll PL the KQ3M repeater, or I may choose to run Anti PL if you folks are encoding for access to your own repeater. I use 123.0 Hertz, hope you don't... It's cool just like it is... we run a CTCSS of 79.7 BTW, wasn't KQ3M your father-in-laws (SK) call or something like that. I think I remember you telling me that.. anyway, don't fret about it. But don't be surprised if you hear me giving you a call on your repeater sometime when the conditions are right.. It has been tempting to do so in the past.. 73 Mike The site and equipment is detailed on these pages: http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/ http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmft.html http://www.shol.com/kuggie/ahra/hmftinfo.html http://www.qrz.com/kq3m Comments welcome. Kevin Custer Owner of KQ3M Yahoo! Groups Links - Mike PerrymanCavell, Mertz Davis, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Consulting Engineers http://www.cmdconsulting.com 7839 Ashton Avenue K5JMPManassas, VA 20109 USA (703) 392-9090; (703) 392-9559 fax; DC Line (202) 332-0110 - Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KQ3M Repeater (was Need Answers - Coordination)
Mike Perryman wrote: I had a guy in Topeka, KS check in on our machine July 6 of last year. He was using a mobile rig, and a 5/8 wave mag-mount stuck to a filing cabinet in his office. Wicked opening... only QSL card I have ever sent for a repeater contact.. LOL!! I remember that opening. I talked to a guy mobiling around Des Moines Iowa. He said "um, your machine is covering up the local 2-7." grin I think the last time we spoke was shortly after 9-11... so it's been a while. Seems like I also remember that machine being used to coordinate support for the 9-11 flight that crashed up there. Most on my machines were utilized during the aftermath of the United Flight 93 crash. It's cool just like it is... we run a CTCSS of 79.7 Cool. I prefer to keep this one carrier squelch as most of my other repeaters are PL'ed. BTW, wasn't KQ3M your father-in-laws (SK) call or something like that. KQ3M was a dear friend and long time neighbor of mine. He was Les Trice's uncle, and one hell of a CW operator. It was he that got my speed up so I could pass the 13 WPM so I could upgrade. My late fathers call, W3WGX, is on another high profile machine of mine. anyway, don't fret about it. But don't be surprised if you hear me giving you a call on your repeater sometime when the conditions are "right".. It has been tempting to do so in the past.. Call any time. I usually monitor it while I'm here at the computer. Kevin Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
At 2/25/2005 04:47 AM, you wrote: No, the frequency that I am on is 146.925, and he is on 146.910, we are 15 Khz away, a user was attempting to use my repeater where his signal passes through their repeater, he was using about 160 watts of power with a beam to get into the system. OK, so this is an adjacent-channel problem. This is why SoCal is on an inverted 15 kHz bandplan in the 146-148 MHz range: every 15 kHz the offset is inverted, so in our bandplan you'd be on 146.325 (+) the other system would remain at 146.91 (-). Then your distant user would be TXing on 146.925 not bother the input of the other repeater. Since the systems are 100 miles apart from each other, adjacent channel interference between the repeaters would not be an issue either. By carefully coordinating repeater operating parameters, adjacent-channel systems can be packed tighter than what's normally possible when the offsets all run the same direction. I know it doesn't always work, particularly when the repeater receivers aren't narrow enough for proper 15 kHz operation (which is why we do have some pairs that have been grandfathered into the same split direction). But when it does, everybody wins: more space for more repeaters with no interference. Bob NO6B Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] KQ3M Repeater (was Need Answers -
At 03:48 PM 2/25/2005 -0500, you wrote: I had a guy in Topeka, KS check in on our machine July 6 of last year. He was using a mobile rig, and a 5/8 wave mag-mount stuck to a filing cabinet in his office. Wicked opening... only QSL card I have ever sent for a repeater contact.. LOL!! ---While I was still living in Hawaii, there was one year of extraordinary tropo (the West Coast --- Hawaii Tropo path is well known), where we had 4 or 5 days of stations up and down the West Coast, using our repeater on the top of Mt Haleakala, at 10,000 feet. As I remember, the station furthest south was an XE and the furthest north was a W7 in Washington. Now you gotta admit that is some serious repeater DXing! Ken -- President and CTO - Arcom Communications Makers of state-of-the-art repeater controllers and accessories. http://www.ah6le.net/arcom/index.html We now offer complete Kenwood TKR repeater packages! AH6LE/R - IRLP Node 3000 http://www.irlp.net Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[Repeater-Builder] mastrII station comb
Can anyone tell me where I can find comb # information on mastr II repeaters. Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [Repeater-Builder] Going got Rough, Forced to change Freq, Need Answers
Bob Dengler wrote: This is why SoCal is on an inverted 15 kHz bandplan in the 146-148 MHz range: every 15 kHz the offset is inverted, so in our bandplan you'd be on 146.325 (+) the other system would remain at 146.91 (-). Then your distant user would be TXing on 146.925 not bother the input of the other repeater. Note: This is not meant to be an argument with you personally, but rather another way of looking at the issue. No - you transfer the problem to users interfering directly with other users, and since you have no control over where the users are, it makes the problem four times as bad as users interfering with repeaters or vice versa. At least repeaters are generally in remote locations where the number of users in the immediate area are low. With users - they live among other users - sometimes next door. So, in essence, you are putting the potential interference closer together and in a group that will be much more volatile when it comes to dealing with each other. At least with the repeaters you can control, to a much greater extent, what other repeaters will be interfering with their transmitted signals. However, the fact that this has all of a sudden turned into an ADJACENT CHANNEL issue rather than a CO-CHANNEL issue does put the entire situation, and the entire first round of comments, in a different light. There apparently is no coordination (or mis-coordination) issue involved as some had previously surmised when it was thought to be co-channel repeaters. Joe M. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Repeater-Builder/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
